Trillbilly Worker's Party - Episode 7: The March For Pseudoscience (w/ special guest: Michelle Eigenheer)

Episode Date: April 28, 2017

In episode 7, we examine what it looks like when Libs take to the streets, and what a march for pseudoscience would look like with journalist Michelle Eigenheer (@fleurdelou_).

Do y'all know who Gary C. Johnson is? Oh my god. Do I? Yes. Oh, you do? Yeah. In the flesh. So you know him personally?

Yeah, I've met him twice. I've been in his office. Remember that fuckboy I used to fuck with in Pikeville? Yeah. He, like, I think he does sketchy things for Eric C. Johnson. For money. Well, have you ever listened to his radio show oh my god how's it go wait are you talking about the wymt it's the one on wxkq on sunday evenings

i can't imagine it's much different than the law with god on wymt you've got to fucking hear it it's it's like self-help sort of it's like him giving sort of wisdom advice it's kind of like a podcast honestly what it is is it's two guys it's gary c johnson and i don't know who the other guy is just an interlocutor a nameless interlocutor he's like what he'll do is he'll propose these like sort of moralistic dilemmas or situations that he finds himself in. He'll be like, now, Gary, I had a friend in high school and we just, we liked the same girl. And over the years that became anosity but then we realized how

stupid that was and we put our differences aside what do you say about that and he'll pause for like 30 seconds what does that have to do with the law it's not it doesn't have anything to do with law it's like I would love to think I would have said now why can't the Democrats and Republicans do that? Oh my God. No, he really will be. He'll be like, this guy will be like, you know, money really does corrupt everything. People can be so greedy and caught up in their ways. And they'll be like, seriously, like a five, ten second silence.

And Gary Johnson will go, that's because money's the root of all evil. And the other guy will be like seriously like a 5-10 second silence and Gary Johnson will go that's because money's the root of all evil. And the other guy will be like oh my god. Just blown away by the revelation. Seriously he'll be like Gary. Oh my god Gary. Gary I think you're on to something.

Oh my god. This is why they pay you the big bucks Gary. It's like the most sort of surface level one dimensional problems. Not to mention he's filthy why they pay you the big bucks, Gary. It's like the most surface level. One dimensional problems. Not to mention he's filthy rich. He's like,

but his advice really is like, you know, you can't take all that with you into the next life. And the other guy's like. Is it a little churchy? Is Gary C. Johnson like the Christian personal injury lawyer? Well, you know, he's really not that religious, but he does, and it's actually kind of funny

because he'll try to get into the pseudoscience, the sort of science of psychology and what motivates people. And he'll be like, some people, they just hold on to grudges their whole life. And the other guy's just like, oh my God.

Gary, you're so right. God. You know, like, he'd be like, psychologists have studied this. They have studied how people hold on to grudges. And the other guy's like.

But like, they won't go in depth. No, no, no, no. And so, like, really what it is is this guy throwing, he's lobbing up passes for Gary, and Gary just fucking slamming that shit. Yeah, just boom, boom. Yeah. Gary C. Johnson. Bow, bow.

Yeah, it's, I was listening to it on Sunday driving, and I was like, we gotta talk about this on the show. Like, this is fucking hilarious. Are you gonna splice some of it in? You gonna find it and splice it in? You really should. If they really wanted to make that super interesting,

what they should do is have Gary C. Johnson giving these moral lessons to Eric C. Kahn. Yeah. Oh, my God. Like, Eric C. Kahn's, like, repentant and, like, you know, trying to, like, come back into legitimacy. And, like, the sage wisdom of Gary C. Johnson's was...

Right. He'll be like, Gary, I have been trying to defraud the government for decades, and I keep getting caught. What do you got to say for me? And Gary's like, now, Eric, psychologists have studied this. And political scientists, you can't defraud the government. That would be so, you just can't defraud the government. That would be so...

You just can't do that. Or if you just gave him like a Bible verse, it's completely not applicable. Right. Welcome. Hi, Michelle. Hey. Hey, Michelle. So that's your microphone.

Thank you. Let me make sure that you've got a good level here. I don't even know which mic is yours. You'll want to get in on it a little more. Yeah. Attack the mic. Yeah, there we go. Like you're going at it.

I got it. You're really insane. I've been here before. All right. Let's actually start the show. Welcome, Michelle. Hey, thanks. Thanks for being on the show.

Thanks for being an honorary trailbilly. Is that my status? I don't know. I'm so excited. Nobody's ever an honorary Trillbilly. Is that my status? I don't know. I'm so excited. Nobody's ever described me as Trill before. I thought you were going to say honorary, but... That too.

Here's the real question. Have you ever heard our podcast? It's okay. I've heard a lot about it. I feel like it's like when somebody tells you what a book is about and so you know the plot, but you didn't lot about it. I feel like it's like when somebody tells you what a book is about, and so you know the plot, but you didn't necessarily read it. Let's see the movie version.

Oh, yeah. It's sort of like the very first episode. Again, my whole career. Every single episode of this show. Where I haven't read. I've done the reading. Tanya hasn't. And I've pretended to.

Tom knows the broad strokes. I know just enough to. I'm just in here to react to you two. That's my main purpose. Yeah. Well, yeah, thanks for joining us. You don't have to have listened to it. I don't think a single guest on our show

has listened to it. But. I don't know. Y'all had a good show last week. He seemed to be a big fan. I am. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you weren't on the show last week, Tonya. I missedall had a good show last week. He seemed to be a big fan. I am. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you weren't on the show last week, Tonya.

I missed Lee Baines. I missed it. Sorry about that. I had so much FOMO when I listened to the podcast. Really? Yeah. You were putting all this fun without me. But then you referred to me as Jesus Christ, so I was fine.

We did refer to you. Superstar. Oh, yeah. Yeah. The even better Jesus. 2.0. 2.0 2.0 that's right no they literally referred to themselves as the two other sinners hugging on the crosses beside jesus yeah the lackeys on so were you just jesus by default i think or did they actively identify you as default i was okay well thanks for

bringing me down back to my level I'm just asking for clarification You're correct I was the unrepentant thief on the cross The one that's like Fuck Jesus man I felt like there were a few times I was saying some things Tom and you were like

Dial it back I felt When you were going to go with the Jesus Bukkake thing Yeah That's the only time I told you to dial it back I really should listen to this podcast I wanted to talk about Jesus getting Bukkake

Alright What was funny is in editing Is that in the bible? By the 12 disciples Is that in the new testament? Yeah it is Oh my god Judas betrayed him because he didn't blow a load on his face

He was like He was like Judas Judas betrayed him because he didn't blow a load on his face. He was like, Jesus. He's like, Judas. Oh, my God. What if I just threw my headphones down and walked out right now? Yeah, fuck this. Will you please give him the dial back? The dial back. I don't know what the symbol is, but you seem to have some kind of control over him that I don't understand.

You're not even a Christian. Why does this make you uncomfortable that I don't understand. You're not even a Christian. Why does this make you uncomfortable? You don't know me. You don't know who I pray to at night. You don't know me. What the fuck? So you weren't here. Were y'all hanging out in Louisville? We were both in

Louisville, I think. But we were not together. We weren't together. No. Well, did y'all at least give each other the play-by-play of what you were doing while you were in Louisville together? No, we were not together. We weren't together. No. Well. Did y'all at least give each other the play-by-play what you were doing while you were in Louisville together? No, we did not. We met up on Monday night in Frankfurt.

We did, yeah. At a boring ass event. Ships passing in the night. Yeah. Was that Bernie Sanders? Was that Benny Sanders? No, because clearly I didn't get to fucking go to that. Thanks for bringing that up.

Benny Saunders. Well, so yeah, Michelle, as all of our guests, as they all come on the show. Are you going to make me play a game? No. I wish we had a game to play. That would be awesome.

That really would make... I never come in here again. I hate games. I hate icebreakers. I hate liars and fake people. I don't fucking play games. You play two truths and a lie. If there's anything about me that people should know that I should put on my Tinder bio,

it's that I don't play games. Except for you went and bought a PlayStation recently. I do play video games. Let's not forget that. No mind games. No mind games. No mind games. Board games, social justice games.

I'm going to be 30 in September. Games for recreation only. Games for recreation. Yeah, right. No, so yeah, what brings you to Whitesburg? Just hanging out. Just hanging out. I've been working with Apple Shop and doing some writing stuff and eating downtown.

Yeah. That's about it. Yeah. That's what I do on a daily basis. All of those things. What do you do in your spare time? What do you do for a job? I do a lot of things.

I'm a freelance journalist based in Louisville. I work part-time a few places. I'm a freelance journalist based in Louisville. I work part-time a few places. I'm a copywriter. Yeah? Yeah. A lot of communication-based stuff. I wanted to be a copywriter once, but then I didn't know the difference between seen and saw.

And it's really boring. Yeah. It's really boring. Is it just until a lot of reading? Well, like writing about things that you don't really care about. Yeah. It's really boring. Is it just until a lot of reading? Well, like writing about things that you don't really care about. Yeah. So. Yeah.

I've done that. It's like college. Yeah. I've done a lot of writing that I don't care, things I don't care about. Yeah. For money. For money. Sell your soul.

Money, money, money. That's right. How many people do you think are doing things they really love for money? Very few. Yeah. I think that's another American dream fallacy. A phallus. In the last episode.

You said phallus. See what you said? Phallus. And I... In editing, I want to just put it on repeat. You could do that. The literal definition of a Freudian slip. Just thinking about D.

Just sitting around thinking about D. Y'all didn't even tell me that. I didn't even know that happened. We find a lot of stuff in editing that doesn't make it out there. Yeah, if you play us backwards, we like say like, hell Satan and stuff. Yeah, yeah.

You talk about Jesus Bukake? Yeah. Yeah, if you play that Lee Baines episode backwards, you're gonna have a lot of blasphemy. Yeah, no, that's a good question, Tanya. I don't think there is a lot of people doing what they love. But I think that my best advice is you should just do what you love. Then you won't work a day.

You should quit everything and do what you love, man. Write a blog about it. Yeah, maybe the bloggers. They're doing whatever the fuck they want. Those still exist. I hear that, I heard today, or maybe the other day, that they started, YouTube has started fucking over their people who are making a bunch of money on YouTube by marking a bunch of their videos explicit. Yeah, but they fixed that. Oh, okay.

Yeah, a lot of LGBTQ content was accidentally, quote unquote, marked explicit. Really? Yeah. Accidentally? Yeah. Accidentally. Oh, wow. This will be marked explicit if it ever gets onto YouTube.

You can't talk about bukkake-ing Jesus in America. Not yet. It just offends all my sensibilities, and I'm no prude. It's just hard to hear. You can't talk about bukkake-ing Jesus in America. Not yet. It just offends all my sensibilities, and I'm no prude. It's just hard to hear. That's the point. It's subversive. It's the brand, man.

We're subverting norms. Oh, shit. So, speaking of subverting norms, I wanted to call this episode either two things either the March for pseudoscience that's a winner or when liberals March I wanted to talk about what happens when liberals hit the streets or we can live sit the street yeah basically I was thinking about this because I consider myself a scientist in some ways. A social scientist? Are you a sociologist? I got to see your credentials.

In mind only. Nah. But I think that the March for Science is one of the lamest things I've ever heard of. But that said, really, the only reason I say that is because it seems to me that, have you ever heard the term sapiosexual? It's the worst thing that exists. Is it what it sounds like? What do you think it sounds like? What Is it what it sounds like?

What do you think it sounds like? What do you think it sounds like? Like Sapio, Upright. It is... What is it? Attracted to everything? It is people who say that they're... Maybe you could explain this better, Michelle.

They're attracted to intelligence in another person. Oh, get all the way the fuck out of here. Maybe you could explain this better, Michelle. They're attracted to intelligence in another person. They're attracted to intelligence in another person. Oh, get all the way the fuck out of here. And that, to me, seems like most of the people at the March for Science. People who say they are attracted to sapiosexuals. This is the first I'm hearing of this. It just seems like there's a certain type of liberal, a certain type of white liberal that is

upper middle class, lower upper class, and they care about They read J.D. Vance. They hate that the mountains are being torn down. They take five minute showers. They take five minute showers. Yeah.

They time that shit. Their environmentalism is not tied to any sort of larger themes of justice or anything like that. It's like NPR environmentalism. Yeah. Trendy, yeah. Exactly. Trendy values.

Exactly. Do you feel similarly as I do, or am I just a total pretentious curmudgeonly fuck? Well, I'll say this. I work for the Sierra Club. And I was not motivated one iota by seeing people that work at community colleges taken to the streets with signs that say, like, there's no Planet B. Oh, God.

Oh, my God. You know what I mean? Like, if I'm sympathetic to you, and, like, I think you're, like, just wild corny, like, who are you winning over in Texas? You know what I mean? Right. I saw very little.

I haven't, like, looked into what actually happened, and I haven't seen any of the speeches or anything, but a lot of the signs are very like they're the most generic yeah preserve our water eat less meat stop pollution right love our planet right and love your mother my personal favorite yeah but that's i guess is that that doesn't even feel sciencey no it doesn't but like there were real scientists there. There are people who care about specific issues who like, who know a lot about environmental issues, about, you know, drought in California or whatever. But I don't, I think that's a very small percentage or a very quiet percentage.

Yeah. What do you think Elon Musk has to say about the March on Fives? I just want that super loop to come in. I don't know. I don't know what he thinks. What super loop? That like mega highway system. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Damn.

I've not heard of this. This is interesting. It was trendy like four years ago or something. Okay. Around the same time as the Tesla batteries. That's basically all I know about it. Man, I remember the Tesla batteries. That whole thing came out. You text me and you're like, man, fossil fuels are dead.

I remember like it was yesterday. Man, this is it. This is the death now. And then we found out, I guess, that Elon Musk was part of this weird neoconservative Silicon Valley tech bro culture. Or at least he cosigns those times. I had a three-month off-the-grid phase where I was like, I'm going to buy Tesla batteries and live in the desert. So that's probably where that came from. I don't remember that, but we all have our liberal moments.

I wasn't hating on you, dude. I was still shilling for Bill Clinton as late as 2015. Oh, shit, shit, shit, shit. Yeah, I didn't really specifically want to hate on the March for Science. Really, I just wanted to throw a hypothetical out there for you, like what the March for Pseudoscience would look like. A lot of beach body coaches. Yes.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, totally. People measuring the lines on your forehead to see if they can read your personality, which was a science in the 17th century, I think it was called like. It starts with an F.

I can't remember what it's called. I thought it started with the M, but I'm totally. Phrenology. Phrenology was when they measured like the size of your head. It's that ethnic hygiene. Yep. That's exactly what it was. Yeah.

Yeah. It was like race science. Right. Yep. Yeah. A lot of pseudoscience is race science. Yeah, so there's also an ugly element to this too. While the beach body supplement nerds are doing the lefty pseudoscience march,

there's also the phrenologists and the fucking, what do you call William Stokely now? Eugenicists. Eugenicists, right. It does divide into political camps. On the left, there would be like- On the left, it would be like coffee enemas cure cancer. Right, and rubbing avocado on your face. That's real.

Oh, I'm sorry. That's science. I would have an allergic reaction. GMOs There's also This is the second time today someone has brought GMOs up to me As like It's garbage man it's fine

We are GMOs Do what? We are GMOs We are GMOs Our environment Modifies our DNA. Right. Right.

Like a lot of things modify our DNA. The food you eat. Right. Yeah, someone told me today that basically everything's GMO'd and there's no such thing as organic anymore. Like you'd have to time travel to get something truly organic. I know there's a problem with corn. You can't grow corn within 10 miles of another corn field and not get that corn's DNA into your corn.

Right. Same thing with cannabis and hemp, man. Yeah, exactly. It's really hard to isolate anything and not cross-pollinate. Right. Just like people. Right. Just like people.

That's all I could do to be like, what about the heirlooms? The heirloom seeds? But I really have no idea. There would also be... Man, the heirloom seed crowd's gonna be terrified to hear this. Oh, yeah. They think that they got the Hoppin' John seeds that the fucking Gula people that were enslaved here.

Yeah, they're going to be so disappointed. 300 years. Yeah, I guess if there was an Appalachian pseudoscience march, the heirloom seeds would be probably a part of that. I know, I know. I have no fucking idea. This would also be a part of that. I know, I know. I have no fucking idea. This would also be a part of that. I know you heard this in school,

but you know how black people have that extra muscle in their calf? That would be a part of the race science. That's why they're good at sports. Right, right. I believed that until I was probably like... Yeah, no. Older than I cared And the whole Melungeons Do you remember that?

Oh the Melungeons That's numero uno With a bullet Y'all would do a better job Of explaining the Melungeons You have to check the love You have to go to the back of your head for an Anatolian bump. Yeah.

And it means that you're like Turkish or something. Is that real? Because the Mongolian spot I think is real. Really? I think so. Well. Maybe I'm just spouting pseudoscience. Well Maybe I'm just spouting pseudoscience

I will I will As an authority on all things race science I will tell you that Turkey wasn't even a country Until recently Details Details

Well so basically The whole Melungeon myth said that There were A group of tri-racial isolates that kind of got holed up in the mountains. And it's basically like the Scots-Irish, the Cherokee-Indians, and... I'm crying. They holed up in the mountains. Yeah. The average age, maybe?

Huh? Yeah. No, just go on. So what happened was they all intermingled and, like, people from, like. Wait, the Cherokee intermingled with the Scotch-Irish? With the Scotch-Irish. Intermingled with people from, like, the Mediterranean, the Baltic region. You know, Greeks, Turks, whatever.

Or whatever they would have been called. And they became this sort of race. Like one race. A super race. A super race, you could say. The Melungeon. Up in the hills. Up in the hills.

Of where? Here, mostly. All right, go on. Central Appalachia. Go on. Central Appalachia. Go on. So if somebody's like a white girl that's like a little darker than she should be, either one of two things or a foot.

Either A, her grandmother was Pocahontas. She will. Yep, I've heard that even out in Mead County. Yeah. Or B, she's a Melungeon. Which really just means there's a Native American somewhere back in my family. Which probably really just means she liked Tanswell.

I was just gonna say probably in Italian. That's much more likely. Fucking way. This is like too reminiscent of mulattoes. Yeah. Yeah. No, there are a lot of white people i think in the eastern united states who think that they descended from pocahontas oh yeah absolutely i mean how many children did pocahontas actually have she died pretty young i think she

was taken to england yeah she was yeah that's what i'm saying like it's literally impossible yeah yeah right yeah yeah i just i just uh she died in like her early 30s yeah but i guess you can have a lot of kids by then real talk though i desperately want to get my dna tested to see if i'm descended from genenghis Khan because like 5% of all Asian males are from that haplogroup. You're right. And I just want to know. Well, and also, and I don't fucking know, but I remember reading an article. It's like a certain percent of every male in the world is like descended from him in

some way. Yeah. Which is pretty fucking crazy. I know. Well, he had a lot of kids and his kids had a lot of kids. Did you guys know that every man, woman, and child

that ever lived is a cousin to both Aphrodite and Confucius? Aphrodite, the goddess. Or not Aphrodite. Nephrotite. I was gonna say a demigod, a philosophical religious figure that might not have even existed.

Hey, this is the pseudoscience hour. This really is the pseudoscience hour. I'm sorry, Nefertiti. Nefertiti. Nefertiti. You say potato, I say potato. Well, there's another one whose name is really similar, but I think probably Nefertiti is the...

The Egyptian. Egyptian. Well, they're both Egyptian.iti is the... The Egyptian. Egyptian. Well, they're both Egyptian. I'll look it up later. Okay. Pseudoscience. Pseudo-history. And also, in that same vein, did you know, just as an aside, that every person that ever

lived and died could be buried on a plot of land the size of Oklahoma? Because they rot down to something? No. I mean side by side. We were talking about this this week in my show. It's a good point you just brought up. Is it every person that's ever existed, if they were buried

right now, or like, are we talking about like, does all the decomposition... Well, by the time you started to bury the last person, the first person would be dirt. Decomposed. You'd be Talking about like this all no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no if you stretch out your intestines right anybody's intestines they could like wrap around the world four times I have heard this I don't know about that and this is another

regional one that I'm probably going to back out of if you can't commiserate with this but so my mom's maiden name is Sizemore have you heard the myth of the Sizemore name

literally multiple people have told me this that they believe the myth is that this native man named George something that he took the name George Sizemore to like blend but he had like hundreds

of kids and there's supposedly there are he was apparently really ugly and hairy you ever heard this? What a legacy I know I know well here's the actual legacy apparently he was like in court a lot there's records of him

like going like in trouble for shit with the law and like he's there's records of him like in trouble for shit with the law and there's records of him in front of a judge for something and the judge is like, how do you have all these kids? And the guy's like, well if I looked as good as you judge, I'd have even more or something crazy like that.

But that he chose the name Sizemore because he had a big dick. I'm asking you a question. I knew where this was going this goes back told the story multiple people have told me this this goes back to our fucking if you say you have a big dick the weird way that the world works if you say you have a big dick you actually probably do have a big dick because only the people with big dicks have the kind of personality to tell people that. Anecdotally, that is not true. Okay.

Thank you for setting the record straight. You're welcome. Yeah, I can say that's not true either. I've been the progenitor of a number of those rumors about myself. You've been on topics. Smoke and mirrors. You've been on topics late Smoke and mirrors. You've been on topics late at night.

I have been. I have been on topics. Stoking the big dick threads of Whitesburg. Weren't you on topics about something or another about your dick one time? Yeah.

Tell us about it. Wait, your dick was on topics? It wasn't. It was a different Tom Sexton. It was a different Tom Sexton. But like all the identifying details could have pointed to me too. Holy shit.

Anyway. We got pretty far from Melungeons. Suicide. Well, honestly, I was just going to say, though, that, like, I had a feeling that's where the whole Sizemore discussion was going. But, like, the buildup didn't match the punchline. Like, what did he say to the judge? Yeah, it wasn't a line about his dick.

Oh, okay. He's so ugly that his big dick is what. Yeah, yeah. Supposedly. But, like, how do you get to size more? Like, there are lots of other better things you could say about your dick. It doesn't make any sense, but it's not real. I don't know.

Like, Dixon. Dixon. Dixon. Is that how the name Dixon came to be? Maybe. Or just Cox, C-O-X. C-O-X, yeah. Good one. So to circle back to the Melungeons, Henry Louis Gates has this show.

I forget what the title is but it's about genealogy or whatever and he addresses the Melungeon myth because he's from West Virginia originally and I think the truth of the Melungeon myth is that a lot of people out here claiming Melungeon throwing up the M

would be surprised to find out that their ancestor that gives them their olive complexion is not from the Mediterranean. From Asia. Not from Asia. Oh, no. Okay. My bad.

But from Ethiopia, the cradle of civilization where we all hail from. Really? Yeah. If you believe out of Africa theory. If you believe out of Africa theory. If you believe out of Africa theory. Pseudoscience. I am not taking a stance against out of Africa theory.

Sounds like you just did. I think it's interesting though that Melungeon sounds a lot like Mulligan. It's a little joke. It could be. It could totally be So other

Local pseudoscience The pig theory I brought this up on the ASA Mixtape Oh shit The pig theory And that also does go hand in hand With the mountain lions in East Kentucky

Oh yeah Are there mountain lions on this mountain? That's a good question. It's a great question, Michelle. The pseudoscientific community is split over this question. These are mountains, though, right? It's a big plateau that was eroded down over millions of years. Are mountain lions the ones that sound like women screaming?

We should edit one in if that's the case. Yeah, that is right. I think so. Or maybe it's their cousin, the puma. I'm joking. A mountain lion is a puma. And a puma is a mountain lion. Really?

I had no idea. There's this guy. I'm not going to tell you who he is or what he does but let's just say he's a prominent figure in this community and he tells the story because I'm getting retail an embarrassing thing about him on the back end right first things first he swears up and down that his mom like lived in this trailer or whatever out on Roxanna and they said

like what Michelle was talking about that they heard this like sounded like a woman crying or like a baby crying or something and it was just sort of vibrating from under the trailer and he said they couldn't get any sleep at all all all night long.

I'm not going to attempt to do that, but, you know, same thing. Well, this gentleman swears up and down that it was a displaced black Florida panther that had somehow made its way out of its range and got stuck under his mom's trailer with Roxanna and swears to it. I mean, this guy's not like some nut job guy.

This guy's a prominent figure in the community. Right. Maybe it escaped from the circus. It could. That happens, like, sometimes. Right. From zoos and shit. You think that the cat would probably die, though,

before it got up here, wouldn't you think? I don't think so. You don't think so? I think cats are pretty crafty, you know? Like, my cat could probably make it to Minnesota. So there's just, but there's like, you know, a cat that's the size of a Volkswagen. It's just like tippy-toeing,

like just hiding in plain sight in eastern Kentucky. Like, nothing to see here, guys. What's the embarrassing story about him? Oh, um... That wasn't embarrassing enough. He's raising a kid that's not his own. Oh. Does he know?

Well, he should because this kid looks like he came out of Pocahontas. And, uh... And the gentleman in question is, uh, freckly and redheaded. Wow. Well, if you ever get a genetics test. Yeah, this is a very slow. Dormant genes are a thing.

They are a thing. Yeah, but here's the thing though. It's his wife worked at a hospital and more than likely she probably had an affair with the Middle Eastern gentleman what do you think is the pseudoscience coming out of the neo-nazi contingent what why are we founded the world view on pseudoscience I I find it really interesting because like Asians are the model minority. We're supposed to be better than everyone,

so why isn't there an Asian supremacy movement in America? That's a good question. Maybe you should start one. That was part of Andrew Sullivan's, like, do y'all read it? Do you know who Andrew Sullivan is? He's just this fucking insufferable guy who writes. He used to blog for the Daily Beast, I think.

And now he writes for New York Magazine. Anyways. Oh, yeah. I do know who you're talking about. He's one of these, like, sort of, you know, there's, he was editor of the New Republic when they ran Charles Murray's bell curve article, like, just asking the question of whether black people were intellectually inferior to, you know what I'm saying? So like he buys into race science to some degree, I think.

And he actually, this is part of his, he's just basically saying, if race science isn't real, then how do you explain Asians? Like they came over to America and have excelled so well. Yeah, success can be cultural. Right, exactly. For them, it has to be like a biological thing. And that's part of the pseudoscience of the Charles Murray people. And the Nazis fucking...

This has been a constant thing of our show. I just can't think of one good reason to say that white people are racially superior. They don't even know what they are. No. No, they don't. Well, that's the funny thing is that the people who are so adamant about white people being superior to everybody else are total fucking losers. And they just look like hell.

Yeah, they look like shit. Liver spots, kind of doughy, retaining water. They look like Cubs fans. Right. They can't. Exactly. And they also can't get fucking laid and can't reproduce. And that's probably another part of it.

Eugenics. Yeah, that's like, yeah, they're torn up about the fact that they can't pass on their superior genes. Superior seed. So they have to come up with the science to justify it. But the neo-Nazis are going to be here

when this podcast releases. Man, those guys are the ones donating to sperm banks. Oh, are they? Are they really? I mean, you get paid to donate. What else are they getting paid for? They probably work in like donating blood. They're probably working at

Taco Bell and shit. So they're important to my life. In all seriousness. That's what I mean. They're serving us our food. They're serving us our food like we don't even know it. That's why the revolution lies with the pros. Gotta organize those workers.

The pros. Before the Nazis get to them. Goddamn the Nazis. Did y'all see that Pike County passed a special ordinance just for this weekend? Did you see what it was? Oh, I don't know about the curfew. But the fiscal court passed an ordinance. Y'all didn't see this?

No. Banning all hoods and face masks. I think along with that is that anybody under 18 has to be accompanied by a one-to-one ratio of kids to adults. After dark or something? Yeah, I think they have kids to be covered. Yeah, thisto-one ratio of kids to adults. After dark or something? Yeah, this weekend, the fine is heavy. It's like a $1,000 fine for being caught with a hood on

or a face mask. Where does a hijab fit into that? You tell me! They're like, fuck! We're over a barrel here. Religious intolerance? We've never heard of it. Right. They're trying to make sure that they...

Someone in the fiscal court spent five minutes online and was like, oh, fuck, these Antifa people wear... Uh-huh. They wear ski masks. They wear bandanas. And hoods. They were like, how can we make sure the KKK doesn't come but also the Antifa? I know, I know.

They're like banning the Antifa movement. I don't even feel like this is a direct, this isn't, like they've known neo-Nazis were coming for months.

What about presidential, what about like masks, the Nixon masks, you know what I mean? Like they wore them point blank. I think that is both a hood and a mask. That'll run you $2,000.

Yeah, that'll get you, that's a double fine zone. You'll die in the Pike County Detention Center. It's gonna be badass if they forget to rescind that fucking ordinance before Halloween and they just raise like $30,000 from kids wearing Jason masks and shit. And the curfew.

Sorry kid, I don't make the rules, I don't break the rules. Eastern Kentucky counties have found a new way to raise revenue. What fiscal crisis? What fiscal crisis? That's exactly right. Okay, so speaking of fiscal crisis,'s exactly right like okay so speaking speaking of fiscal crisis today someone

brought up uh a reality i had not considered was the u.s government and the ledger county court like ledger county both um might shut down i saw um a new headline just like an hour ago saying that donald trump has decided that the wall is not worth a government shutdown. Just so you know. Whoa. That's big news. Enlightenment. Woke Trump.

But what if the U.S. government shuts down and Letcher County government shuts down at the same time? What happens? What happens? What do we do? It's anarchy, baby. You can wear all the masks you want. You can wear all the masks you want. Yeah, wear all the masks you want. Oh, that would be pretty cool.

You really think they would have shut down the government, Tanya? You think the Dems have it in them? Maybe not. Who's going to lead the charge there? I absolutely think they would retaliate against the Republicans who shut it down before. You think so? I do. I don't think Ch the Republicans who shut it down before. You think so? I do. I don't think Chucky boys got it in him.

The reason I don't think that they would is because they just totally rolled over on Gorsuch. Gorsuch? I don't ever know how to say his name, but they totally just seeded that battle. It just seems like that would have been the battle to sort of turn the GOP strategy back around on them? I'll go ahead and I'll give anybody in here 601 odds

as they don't shut the government down. Do you think they're going to fund the arts? Is that what the shutdown? What is the shutdown over? The wall. The wall. Okay, they may do that because that's like a woke shutdown. So wait, is there?

But apparently Donald Trump has realized that it's not worth a shutdown to get america to fund the law man what did somebody on twitter today that said donald trump's playing ninth dimensional checkers oh my god because that's the kind of shit man it's like see trump's governing like an adult you guys were worried. I've been hearing that recently. Actually, my boss, actually, I was talking to him. Last Tuesday, the day after the fiscal court,

the ordinance at the fiscal court was shut down. Yeah. The ordinance to tax every gas well in the county. And like all these people, like all these gas workers showed up from out of town.

There was like 70 of them. They just fucking harassed us and talked shit. And it was just miserable and awful. Tragic. Traumatic. And the next day I was in a really bad mood and my boss was like, Terrence, just don't be in such a bad mood. Just cheer up.

He said, you know what? A few months ago I was in a terrible mood because, you know, Trump got elected and all this. But, you know know now he's just starting to govern like a like just like a sort of conventional republican and i was just like and i was just like that's not scary to you that's not scarier i think like that's almost scarier to me it's interesting how like everybody's expectation has shifted like the middle of what your expectation is because it's been so dramatic like Yeah. That's absolutely right.

I saw a meme or some shit this week that was showing the progression of the political spectrum. And the left just keeps moving to the center more and more and more. Oh yeah, it was Nancy Pelosi was talking about. Of course you can be a Democrat and be pro-life. That's what she's saying. The left has for a while been, or the center has for a while been left-leaning. The center? Mm-hmm.

Like nationally? I don't know. That's news to me. I feel like even the left is right-leaning. I got boosted from the Bernie meeting by liberals. Back to libs. Back to libs. Back to libs.

I was going to say, I had a thing that I wanted to... A historical parallel. An analogy. It seems to me that the March for Science is very much, I don't know if y'all remember this, but maybe like five years ago, it's very much like that what was it? The Rally to Restore Sanity.

Remember that shit? No. That was a comedy stuff. I don't know. Wasn't that, what's his name? He was a freshman in college that year. I didn't know anything. I was like a senior in college that year. This didn't know anything. I was like a senior in college that year. Wait, who? This was Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, that couldn't have been real. Exactly, that's what I'm saying. But it was real, though. What was so amiss for them they felt they needed to restore sanity in there? What was going on in 2010 or 11? That was when this happened. It happened in like 2010 or 11 no i think that oh shit that's a great question however the point was is that society is irrational like as a whole and that only enlightened intellectual individuals

know how to govern. That's so pretentious. And I think that is a key part of the liberal psychology and I think that undergirds the March for Science and things like it. Fast forward to 2016 and we got Trump because of that very same sentiment.

That was the whole way they viewed Obama. Go ahead. I was going to say that is something that the march to march for science like a lot of the pro science quote unquote things are not accessible to everyone right no yeah totally yeah that's absolutely right and totally divorced like from again any sort of of further critique of the structures that cause these things to be parts of our society in the first place. I mean, I was reading this article in...

I think it was in Jacobin. I can't remember where it was. I was reading this article not too long ago about how um scientific like retractions in scientific journals over the past 20 years past 25 years or so have skyrocketed and it's because so many academics and researchers and scientists are under so much pressure from university and research institutions that they just do fucking terrible work. Like the methodologies are just getting shoddier and shoddier.

And so, I mean, it's like, yeah, he's like, march for science, but I don't know, like kind of feels like science isn't science anymore. It kind of feels like science is all sort of at the whims of what our corporate overlords want. Oh, no, totally. No, I agree 100% with that. Anyways. I don't have any more to pivot from there.

I don't have any more. Anybody got a pivot? I don't have a pivot from that. You're usually good for pivot. I've been wanting Taco Bell ever since we talked about it. Oh, man, me too. I almost went and got it before that. You're lucky we for pivot. I've been wanting Taco Bell ever since we talked about it. Oh, man, me too. I almost went and got it before that. You're lucky we got Taco Bell now.

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