Trillbilly Worker's Party - Premium Ep 26 UNLOCKED: Morris Dees and the Holy Ghost

Episode Date: November 15, 2018

We're going to be a little late getting the episode out this week (it's been one of Those Weeks, folks), so as recompense here's our latest Patreon episode. For FREE. For the people. Come out to our show on Friday. It's also free and for the people: https://www.facebook.com/events/1572121786268005/ And subscribe to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/trillbillyworkersparty

it's a bad day in the neighborhood oh man and with my dick is soft and it don't work good dude before before you before i went and picked you up i was listening to the radio and i just like had this idea. I was thinking about a country singer who writes songs about grant writing about the nonprofit industry. Oh, God. Like, this is something I just came up with off the top of my head. The first time that I saw you, you were walking through that door. You had a laptop under your arm

and I thought you were a bore. Dropped your Nalgene on the floor. Then you started writing some grants and we got a ballpark in some fancy pants if you gotta get out of bed then you ain't living the dream that song's really stuck with you people gonna be like wait he did that one last week. Well, we got a request to see more Sturgill, so I'm just fulfilling the request. Let's see if we can manipulate one of his other songs. Grant Farm.

Let's see what would be a good one. Grant Farm. Just sounds nasty. Grant Farm. Just sounds nasty. Grant Farm. I can't log into the online grant portal. Well, the woman I love is named Hillary. Shit. How's that sound?

How's Snake Farm go? I forget. Oh, I can't remember the verses, but it's like. Well, the woman I love is named Ramona. She kind of looks like Tempest Storm. Let's see. Who falls down when they dance? James Brown?

He does that like... I mean, but like who like... Kind of like... Has anybody ever fallen... Anyway. What do you mean? I should have went to the drawing board on this before we started. I needed to write it out instead of going off that way oh i can't log into the grand portal because i forgot my password could you please send it to

me oh i forgot it has 69 in it oh i'm a professional have you ever done that had an embarrassing password and had to that's my reset um yeah yeah for sure uh actually no no i don't do embarrassing passwords what are you talking about? All of our passwords are don't tell anybody. Don't tell anybody. That is a funny bit that it's a recurring

bit between me and you that we can never tell the people. Well, I guess we could just change our passwords on everything, but our passwords for all of our stuff is

probably the funniest bit on the show. You will never hear it. Unless you're a hacker. Good. Too good. Yeah, that would be a funny idea. Like, hacking in our stuff just to find out what our funny password is.

And then they'll just be like, that's it. I've been here six hours. I don't think they understand it. Well, how do you hack a password now i will say this i will say this though 69 is it has been since day one but you the only reason we're telling you that is because there's probably about 30 other letters in the goddamn password it's the longest password i've ever fucking had for anything. And it's the most inside joke imaginable.

Nobody would get it or care. Well, the woman I love is named Hillary. She kind of looks like a vice principal, and she can't dance because she falls down a lot. She once ran for the president. President. Grant Farm. Grant Farm.

We're raising money for the poor people. Grant Farm. They can't do it themselves. Getting green jobs. Grant Farm. For a reptile house grant farm got a got a fun community mural grant farm oh shit fuck me man fuck me all i've ever done in my life is try to help people is this dude there Is this the speaker piece? Yeah.

So there's a... I didn't get to finish reading all of them and finding them. This is a little bit of a laid back episode, folks. We've got no... We had you wound up the last couple weeks. We're going to unwind you a little bit. We've got nothing planned. You're just listening to two dudes hanging out.

Just shooting the shit, hanging out. Two dudes. Two guys. Dudes being guys. Dudes being guys. All I've ever done in my life is try to help people. And then someone comes out here the other night and keys my damn car. I'd never do that to somebody else.

There's one, and maybe you want to build up to it but there's one that i circled i think i even put a star next to it is there is there one with a star next to it no i didn't start anything oh yeah yeah you did you did it's probably it's one of it is a like moby dick of speaker pieces we'll close with that it is a masterpiece and i didn't even get to read all of it because i was waiting for you. Holy shit. Is it true that our nativity scene won't have any Jews, Africans, Arabs, or immigrants? That will just leave a jackass and some shit.

I have no idea what that was about. I think that's all lives matter. You think it is? Maybe. I couldn't tell if it was an advanced form of irony or... Well, even racists acknowledge the Judaism of Christ. It's everybody else's Judaism. That's true.

They reject. Right? Isn't that the whole kind of sort of basis for for some anti-semitism is that you know that is that why they burn is that the way the kkk burns crosses i don't know i wonder why that is no that's probably just to say that we're here we're christian look at us that's just a really flashy way it's just it's just uh yeah well the church i was raised in would have seen that as highly blasphemous. Oh, yeah, totally.

Totally. But these are insane people. I wish the people in Wicca would pick their dogs up. I'm sick and tired of them getting in my yard every night, getting into my garbage. I am not able to pick it up. They need to put them up because if they don't, I swear I'm going to have my son kill them and haul them off. This is nonsense. People, if these are your dogs, make sure you put them up and keep them out of my yard.

I'm fed up with it. Man, let me tell you something. I'll go ahead and tell you. That's a tree you do not want to bark up is the killing dog tree. Fuck no, man. People will, that's how you incur the wrath of somebody. Oh, yeah. You know what I'm saying?

Because it's like a pet is just in that sweet spot where like, like if you kill someone's brother, the law is gonna get involved in the courts and everything you know but if you kill someone's dog that's where true vigilantism that's where that's where old school sicilian style vendettas are played out exactly i'll tell you how we get rid of this nazi problem is we sick the pit bull lobby out yeah we have to start a rumor that all alt-right proud boys nazis all of them like to put antifreeze on bologna and feed it to pit bulls you're right that will take care of the nazi problem in record time you are absolutely

my man over here it's like man god to get in the damn Proud Boys, you got to fucking poison the pit bull. That shit's fucked up, man. What the fuck did you say, bro? Are you serious? Damn, man. Hey, that's just what I heard. Oh, hell. I support Mr. Trump.

He might be too rough around the edges for some people, but the people who appreciate what he has accomplished don't really care how he words his sentences. I believe he was prepared from birth to be the president at this time. Holy shit. Holy shit, this goes off the rails oh starting with his scottish grandmother damn i didn't circle this one who taught him about our christian heritage dude that is something i have not heard yet that trump was prepared

at birth it was it was man let me tell you a hallmark of of sort of apocalyptic evangelical christian and i might be preaching to the choir here but the phrase like i used to hear in church all the time christ was was um crucified before the foundation of the earth which is like not true you know we don't know any of that stuff but the point they're trying to make is like trying to make some sort of weird cosmic predestination point about that oh right right right okay so like everybody thinks that trump has just been pre-ordained by the hand of god a fucking fucking bumbling queens guy that would be it would be be running a goddamn off-track betting business if he wasn't a plutocrat.

This guy who... The funniest Trump thing that happened in the last few weeks was him climbing the stairs up to the plane and just being like fuck it with his umbrella. Dude, I'm telling you. That's your savior who was prepared from birth? Yeah. It's also like

people all the time talk like i don't know you've been on a job site and like these good old boys will fuck with you a little bit if you don't know how to use a tool or something totally and it's like your guy's the guy that can't close a goddamn umbrella doesn't know because he's never had to he also can't close deals shit man roasted his ass also scottish grandmother oh yeah the famous uh christian heritage the scottish heritage that is true you're a fucking pagan fucking bog trotting witches like why a couple hundred years ago the is the Scottish identity synonymous with the Christian identity? First thing I think of when I think of Christianity is the Scots. The Scottish people.

Oh, fuck. Let's see what we got here. Okay, wait. He was born into privilege, but we can't hold that against him. Actually, we can. Yeah, we can. He learned about the world and its institutions and industries from top to bottom, which allows him to function with confidence on the world stage.

God bless you, Mr. Trump. Thank you. Does that Jezebel from May King area who's seeing two or three different guys drive an old car? I believe that's the real Hemphill Hooker. That's tight. Using the name Jezebel for a salacious person or anything is really goddamn funny. Because the name Jezebel is awesome.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I don't think they realize how badass it actually is. It's also a biblical name. Totally. You should name your daughters that. You know how people all the time point that out.

It's like, oh yeah, I named my son Mark. It's a biblical name. It's a biblical name. That is super fucking common. I named my son Jesus. It's a biblical name.

It's a biblical name. What's that phrase from He Got Game? I've never seen He Got Game. But he's like, Jesus Shuttlesworth, why'd you name me that? He goes, it's a biblical name.

No shit. I've never seen it. So what you're saying is I stole a joke from He Got Game just now. Inadvertently. Fuck. If they ran elections in eastern Kentucky the way they run them in Florida, Georgia, and Texas

we'd be laughing stock of the country and front page news. But I got something I need to tell you. I need to break something to you, my man. But good on you. Good on you for staying in the pocket. I think we mentioned it on a recent episode, but the FBI recently, or a few years ago, was like, East Kentucky is a full-time job because so many elections here are just rigged.

Straight up. Straight up, yeah. is a full-time job because so many elections here are just rigged straight up straight up yeah for the last 19 years i've had to put up with a certain smart mouth idiot well guess what pal there's a new sheriff coming in you better get your hind end in gear it's my favorite hallmark of speak your piece is the thinly veiled anonymous threat totally and it varies from on the spectrum of like mild violence to death oh yeah yeah we have a guy that just put out a hit on dogs here totally totally totally i find it completely disgusting that someone running for office is openly calling gay people derogatory names on the Facebook. I read this. I was wondering about this.

I wonder who the fuck that is. You know who you are. Or you just answered it. And I want you to know that people know what you said and what kind of person you are. How would you treat a gay person whom you would have power over in your elected position i ain't got something to tell you buddy again i wonder who that is get with the times or get over it bigot i like that well said well said get with the times or get over it bigot I'd like to give a friendly send-off to a wonderful lady who's going to the military.

She's just great and super nice. Okay. Okay, now here we're going to get to the big dog. All right, read the start speaker piece because, like I said, it is a narrative of melvillean proportion it is a it is an american story uh that really gets at our modern zeitgeist and uh i didn't actually read all of it but i liked where it was heading so you left a little bit open at the end just to be surprised to be surprised but i started reading i was like oh hell yeah, baby. This is extremely my shit.

The comment about how some people walk in late for church would apply to me. But before people start judging and throwing those stones, just maybe there's a good reason some people are late. In my case, most of the time I'm lucky I get to go to church at all, much less late. I have to deal with a selfish and controlling person at home who hogs the bathroom for hours making it very hard to get dressed not only that all through the week i have to cater to this person's every little whim and wish listen to this person whine and complain endlessly. Never hear a complimentary word.

Work like a dog and yet the person still isn't satisfied and a ton of other things. Every time I go to church I ask for a message to help me understand this miserable person better because anybody who acts like that can't be a happy soul.

At other times I slip off at every opportunity I get to not only attend church, but to visit friends, go for walks, or just sit on the creek bank meditating. This is insane. So if I walk in a little late, thrilled to be in church, I'm glad for the chance to hear about a forgiving and loving God. Try living with a nagging, bragging potato chip eater who never sees the good in anybody.

Never says thank you. And doesn't even believe in the Holy Ghost. I like this clothing. This is the best one I've ever read. Walk a mile in my shoes. Who among us has not lived with somebody that eats potato chips and doesn't believe in

the holy ghost oh shit this must be what the scripture refers to when they say that the only unpardonable sin is blaspheming the holy spirit just means you just sit on your couch eating potato chips. Oh, fuck, man. Denying the existence of the Holy Ghost. That's good shit. Wow. And then, of course, I got to read the requisite shout-out to us this week. Oh, yeah, there is a shout-out to us. Thank you. Tanya, Terrence, and Tom, thanks for always putting on a good show and moving the needle for our people.

Thank you. God bless. Whoever did that really has the Speak Your Peace cadence down. You've got the, you've found the tone. Right, because Thank You, God Bless. Thank You, God Bless should be the name of our spinoff podcast.

Thank You, God Bless. Thank You, God Bless. Well, here, let's do this. Let's give everybody the Speak Your Peace number and the email address to do that. Totally. Send yours in, and maybe we'll read them on the air. Yeah. The email address is mteneagle at b-e-l-l-s-o-u-t-h dot net. So it's mountaineagle at bellsouth dot net. But the mountain is just m-t-n.U-T-H dot net. So it's mountaineagle at bellsouth dot net.

But the mountain is just M-T-N. M-T-N. M-T-N eagle at bellsouth dot net. That's your classic East Kentucky email address too. Bellsouth dot net. Oh, that means you got in on the ground floor of internet here. Right, like in the mid-90s, late 90s. Probably 98-ish.

Yeah. And also, if you aren't on a 90s mobile plan and you have long-distance calling, you can call 606-633-7508 from 9 a.m. Tuesday to 9 a.m. on Friday. What I like to do when I submit speaker pieces, and I haven't submitted a speaker piece in a long time. Was this shout out to us done by you?

It was not, actually. Is that what we're doing now? You think I spelled my name wrong just to throw people off? I just throw them off the scene a little bit. They'll never suspect. They'll never suspect. They'll never suspect me. I usually create like a burner account, but you know,

that's just because I live in a small town and I don't want the editor to know that I'm submitting a speaker piece that's like highly inflammatory towards the people we know in our community and that he knows. So I usually create a burner account that's like AlexanderHamander hamilton 69 at like gmail erin burr 69 420

usually i do go south i usually go to yahoo yahoo is my go-to for creating burner accounts yeah that's true because nobody will believe you're still on yahoo and totally totally horace greeley 420 at at Yahoo.com is a burner account. I've submitted several speaker pieces. Ah, it's so Horace again. I don't even know who Horace Greeley is. It's one of those names from history that has stuck. Was he like a newspaper publisher or something in like the Gilded era?

The Gilded Age? Let me go to the tape here. I have no idea, man. I should know that. I should know that. No fucking clue, my man. Oh, man. It's a bad day in neighborhood.

Oh, he's the founder and editor of the New York Tribune. Oh, yes, which is probably no longer in existence and also an unsuccessful candidate for president with the liberal republican party of 1872 he was beaten by elisa s grant interesting what is the liberal republican party this look i feel like i have a pretty decent understanding of you know not the particulars of american history but at least it sort of contours and and everything this is literally the very first time i've ever even heard of the liberal republican party well there's a reason for that it was founded in 1870 and dissolved in 1872 probably the trajectory of our show here probably exactly oh fuck man well um that's pretty funny um

shit so what's going on in the world what kind of content did you bring me today i didn't bring any content i just was gonna read i'll tell you this though i i do have some dispatches from my my work retreat this how was your work retreat this weekend? It's interesting because I was on a We on a panel? I was on a panel I won't mention the particulars

My man was on a panel and the people in charge but let's just say one of the big bosses was in the building for my panel and afterwards but let's just say one of the big bosses was in the building for my panel. And afterwards, one of the big bosses, who is like sort of one of the liberal power brokers in this country just by virtue of their position,

and does things like he probably texts Obama. Probably, yeah, definitely. he probably texts obama probably yeah definitely but also does stuff like uh in his prepared remarks he goes i was with a prominent environmentalist this weekend who shall remain nameless but he used to be the vice president i should have just up and said, Spiro, oh, so Al Gore? Yeah. Just totally. Yeah, that's a,

well, so we're riding around in this little sprinter van and I'm taking him around to some of the sort of landmarks in the area we were at. That's my favorite shit. My favorite shit is when big wigs come, not, not like when big wigs come not not like republican big wigs my favorite shit is when liberal big wigs come to east kentucky and they're like sure like one time uh at this old organization i used to work for that shall also remain nameless i had to The Democratic Party That's why we need videos

So people get that joke Right right I had to come up with a itinerary And travel agenda for What's the name of that lady Who used to be the Secretary of Interior Sally Jewell She actually didn't wind up coming

She pulled the classic L this is how this is the funniest shit about the non-profit liberal world it's like oh sally jewel's gonna come and meet with us and see everything that's going on she didn't even go that far she was just like let's just do a phone call let's just how about y'all come to me yeah yeah this woman who is supposed to ostensibly whose job is to overlook the protection of america's quote-unquote natural resources you know like you would think would come to a place that has just been absolutely ravaged of their natural resources at least just as a gesture but she couldn't even do that she was like okay i got this thing

thursday colonoscopy i i don't want to reschedule it you know let me tell you this let me tell you this let me tell you this and i just say this speaking from having kind of worked in events at the clinton foundation powerful people are not nearly as busy as you think they are oh absolutely they do shit just to keep up appearance they delegate all the actual and this goes because if they were truly busy the only time they're truly busy is when they're giving speeches for money totally yeah but like if they're just dropping into like saint jude's children's hospital or some shit like that's totally of their own accord because they want people to pay attention to them and maybe drum

up some press yeah it's like bill clinton's like oh i've not seen my name in the paper in a few weeks i'll go visit some kids dying of leukemia right absolutely totally um so this person uh was riding around and asking me what my um takeaways were were from the midterms. Oh, baby. So there's a couple of other people in the club, and I think they're just kind of like shouting me down the whole time. Yeah, they're just like. They're just like, just relax. And I'm not saying anything controversial.

I was like, well, I was like, my one thing that I thought was that I thought a lot of the candidates that were like shoe-ins, you know,edas the Iron Stashes the whoever the fuck else I was like those campaigns fell flat so I was actually kind of giving them a softball because I was I was I was I did it really just to see how entrenched like the liberal distaste for progressive populism is right right like that kind of stuff well they didn't take the bait on that one but then they started talking about my man beto oh dude here's the thing everybody loves beto except texas except texas dude the thing the

weird anyways i didn't mean to interrupt you go no ahead. No, no, no. Go ahead. Go ahead. Well, someone made a really good point on Twitter yesterday. There's nothing more to Beto's success... You know, I lived in Texas for... I was born in Texas, lived there for six years in all. I feel like I'm pretty well plugged into its political... You're a Texan. I'm a Texan. You are.

I mean, you were born there and spent a lot of time there. you're a texan i'm a texan you are i mean it's just you were born there and spent a lot of time there you're yeah so it's like um you know as for the state that it is you know i think he did pretty good and he almost won but um someone made a point that like there's nothing more to that than he's just really good and adept at social media and that's that's what it is he's just good and and the way they pointed this out was with aoc was like fucking chopping onions or some dumb shit in your kitchen listening to like um uh why am i blanking on her name yeah well no she was listening to like beyonce or some shit anyways everybody was like

oh she's so down to earth she's blah blah and someone was like people said this exact same thing about beto like politicians that are like this is how like far the needle has moved in the opposite direction that like any politician who's even like has even the semblances of a human being being like because we all assume that like like, fucking Ted Cruz has small children in his basement. He just goes and drinks their blood periodically. We're so used to those kind of politicians that, like, anybody who's even remotely sort of genuine, people are like, oh, yeah. And that's really what it came down to Beto.

It didn't really have a whole lot to do with his policies or anything like that. He just seems like an alright person alright guy you know and so that's we're just like and so that's why I think the liberal

intelligentsia wants to like run people like that for president and stuff because they're like because they see another Obama you know

kinda yeah Beto has serious Obama vibes he's he's um you know relatable

he's good looking approachable hot as fuck would suck his dick lick his balls He's, you know, relatable. He's good looking. Approachable. Hot as fuck. Would suck his dick. Lick his balls. Would like to get his shirt off and rub on his nipples a little bit.

So anyway. This podcast is a Beto fanfic. Anyways, go ahead. Yeah. Yeah, you play that bass yeah you slap that bass you slut so they were talking about they bait and switched me

tell you what they did so I was like yeah I'm just kind of shocked that Ojeda's message didn't play you know as well you know He's a former military guy. He got dusted. It wasn't even close in that race. He got waxed.

And if there was some guy I was going to point my finger to and be like, oh, that motherfucker's a lock. Whoever holds that office needs to just fucking. Totally. And he got dusted. So they were asking about Amy Mc about like Amy he asked about Amy McGrath that race with Andy

Barr and all this stuff and so all the like you know my supervisors and stuff were like yeah we went door to door with her and she was great

and all this stuff and in my head I'm thinking no she was fucking terrible but I didn't like I held my tongue on Amy yeah

so we're walking around You gotta know when to fight your battles. You gotta know what battles to fight. Well and all those people probably are very tied into that Lexington liberal scene. 100%. I don't want to get fired today. But I wasn't going to go away with that little fight.

We got back in the Sprinter and they bait and switched me. A lot of bait and switching going on this person, the big dog will say was commenting on Nancy Pelosi's leadership so I was like oh ok here's where I can

here's where I can slide in there and be like in my opinion I think we need to get Pelosi and Schumer out of there it's like I don't really give a fuck but I'm just like I was like, man, in my opinion, I think we need to get Pelosi and Schumer out of there. It's like I don't really give a fuck, but I'm just like. Yeah, you're just trying to. I'm trying to move these liberals at least an inch to the left.

See, the thing is, because I have to do this every day at work, too. When I say stuff like that, it's not even that I'm trying to move them to the left. I'm just trying to like. Show yourself friendly. Yeah, I'm just trying. Just bullshit yourself friendly yeah i'm just trying i'm just trying to bullshit a little bit i'm just trying to show them that i haven't completely like given up and retreated into just either revolutionary uh what whatever or nihilism yeah it's usually just me being like oh yeah totally i think um you know what? Anyways. So then they start this, the guy that's one of my supervisors is like, yeah, I think Pelosi's a great strategist.

And in my head I'm just thinking, it's like the Mr. Krabs meme or something. There's a lot of things you can say about Nancy Pelosi, but a good strategist doesn't even hit the board. Was she Speaker of the House when they passed the Affordable Care Act? I think she was. I think so, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think so.

I think she became Speaker in what, in 2006? Or whenever the Democrats took the... Whenever they had the mandate. There was a blue wave in 2006. There truly was a blue wave then. And then there was a bigger blue wave in 2008. Yeah. And that's when they ran shit and did nothing with it.

Anyway. So, you know, I said, and then I forgot that this guy is from her state. Oh, yeah. In California. Friends and all this stuff. Oh. from her state. Oh, yeah. In California. Friends and all this stuff. Oh. I got to lecture about it a little bit. Not like it.

He was totally fine about it. Well, that's just your opinion, sir, and I respect that. Well, it was one of those, but it was also just like, how could you even make an argument that that pelosi and schumer have a good i mean like schumer is just like fucking just rubber stamping all of trump's judiciary picks like the courts are completely conserved and they're letting it happen because they think well this is how we get ahead just you know some some old-fashioned compromise well and um go ahead i'm sorry well no you go ahead finish the uh anecdote well fast forward you know and i you know kind of

took a little l there by bagging on his girl pelosi but then at the the his speech that night. A couple themes I picked up on that I was like, I am so detached from liberalism. Like, really. And it was talking about like, just because you got a Republican sticker doesn't mean you're a bad person. Just because you got a Democrat sticker. You know, all that kind of like,

we gotta find common ground, all that kind of line. Totally, platitude. It's like, actually, in World War II, we'd call that collaboration. That's right. But, you know, play on. Well, the funny thing to me about this, and I remember pointing this out in 2014 in the Grimes, Alison Grimes and Mitch McConnell race, is that like- That was another thing he asked about.

He was like, why didn't Allison Grimes win that race? Oh my God, man. We fought a civil war in this country. You realize, they didn't have a civil war in Canada. Like, we fought a civil... We hate each other. That's an American pastime. Oh yeah, we've been hating each other.

Like, what makes you think... I mean, even throwing aside all my beliefs, you know, about socialism and communism and everything else, all that aside, what makes you think that, like, running as Republican light would win? Like, I don't understand this. People want polarization. That's actually what they want in this country yeah they see it as if you run as republican line you're kind of like you know that episode king of the hill when hank hill shakes george bush's hand and he's got a weak handshake yeah yeah that's the situation you're you're walking into we fought a civil war in this country over slavery but the people who fought that war the individuals they weren't fighting it over slavery they were fighting it because they fucking hated

southern democrats right yeah like it it has nothing to do with the underlying philosophical particulars it's all about like you know people are talking about tribalism and universal demands and all this stuff it's just like nah look if you can get a critical mass of people you can easily fucking fight a war oh yeah we've done it before we'll do it again i know the the sort of interior lives of you know these people but it's that just doesn't occur to them no no so um yeah it was it was it was kind of weird it was like i sit there and watch that and then they and he was totally nice and everybody was totally sweet but i was also like i used to believe this oh yeah and i couldn't imagine a situation where i believed that well the thing

is tom is that we used to believe it but but not even then, though. We still were never stupid enough. We knew something was rotten, but we didn't have an articulation for it until we discovered, or really, not even discovered, but, I mean, we discovered communism way earlier. Well, it's a, they just, they're sort of, you know, it's a sort of trite cliche point, they're sort of you know it's a sort of trite cliche point but they're so isolated in their own little worlds that um that they can't see that the liberal dream has died you know what i'm saying yeah like this this sort of became fully um i don't know it really sort of struck me this week when the sessions mueller protests or whatever were going on and what really what struck me so much about it is that like history cannot move for them they are stuck

like culturally aesthetically politically philosophically everything they are stuck in a specific moment in like 2010 or something 2006 that, that first blue wave. Yeah, that's probably it. That's really, I think I remember watching Diane Sawyer in 2006 when they had Nancy Pelosi and maybe Chuck Schumer and Barack Obama

I think he'd already given his DNC speech in 2004, I guess. And that was kind of his star turning event. And then like he was getting interviewed and all this stuff before he was ever, you know, going to run around with stuff. And I remember feeling like, oh gosh, okay, something great's coming. You know, like it just had all the momentum for it.

Fast forward. Nothing happens. We got cash for clunkers uh and clove cigarettes uh terence maintains that obama banned clove cigarettes he did it was literally i think the very first thing he signed in office and then what else was there uh he banned for loco oh yeah they They didn't ban Four Loko. That is funny to me, though, that Four Loko was such a national crisis. Remember, there's people still pining for them to bring the original formula.

Remember, like, when you drink one, you just black the fuck out and wake up in a dish somewhere? Oh, yeah. People are like, bring that back. We could ban Four Loko. It's probably been made, this point has probably been made on Twitter but we could ban for loco but we can't ban guns and clove cigarettes uh what else was there what else was there um and that way and then you get just half dick measures like the aca and all that kind of stuff frank dodd is that was that a thing that they did? Dodd Frank. They had to switch it around because it sounded like a guy's name.

A guy's name, right. Dodd Frank, they did that. They did some dotting and franking. Some dotting and franking. You sound like me when I try to answer a question about Dodd Frank. There was some dotting and there was some franking. What was that?

Was that when they reinstituted the barrier between investment banking and commercial? That sounds right. Something to do with that. Something to do with banking. Glass-Steagall. I don't, yeah. That's the thing. Anytime anybody brings any of this.

The thing about liberalism is you have to be so keyed in to specific bills and pieces of legislature and stuff. And I'm like, I just don't give a fuck about anything. Because it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. The thing is, it's all theater. Yeah, and it's all theater. And honestly, for every single New Deal legislation and whatever, all you gotta do is just wait long enough

for the liberals to come back and undo it. The biggest achievement of Clinton's presidency to do is just wait long enough for the liberals to come back and undo it like what like the the biggest sort of achievement of clinton's presidency was health care rms or welfare reform reform welfare reform but it was he gutted welfare yes and expanded the carceral state like conservatives you know they obviously like sort of created the conditions for all that. But liberals are the people that brought it, you know. Well, hand-walked it into existence. I mean, obviously, I'm not as well-versed in history as some people.

But in the modern time, well, I don't know, because Jimmy Carter was pretty conservative. But Jimmy Carter wanted some real local people. I didn't even tell that story. In my head this weekend, I just heard, Joe put the dog on him. That's the thing. Yeah, that's a funny thing

when bigwigs come to Eastern Kentucky. All you got to do is find some real local people. Yeah, they love real local people. They love real local people, dude. They love it. If you could find somebody who has an opinion that hasn't been filtered through like 30 filters of brain poison, Facebook, whatever, they love that shit. They're like, this is a real authentic person here.

You've got these real authentic people here in eastern kentucky i remember when morris days came down here and uh i remember one of the things he said was like all these towns out here you know he talks like he's a plantation owner he does are uh they're drying up and uh but this place this place looks like still has it's heart about it a little bit this place has still got a little bit of a heart and soul left yeah it talks like Shelby Foot almost. Yeah. You could tell the modern advances of industrial economy and technology have not infiltrated these hollers and hills. They have left people in another time.

They are backwards, but they are authentic. We had it. We had so many good runs. Remember when we said that, you know, because Morris Dees is often credited with taking out the Ku Klux Klan. Totally. But he won like, you know, these landmark court cases against him or whatever and like seriously hampered him.

But our running joke was that he just hopped on his Indian motorcycle Mad Max style and just went and took out all of them. Had two like sawed off shotguns like crossed in the back and just he would just drive by and just slaughter 15 at a time the myth around morris d's is fucking hilarious way back when we first started the show i have his autobiography at our office and i brought it home because i wanted to i wanted to sort of uh roast it you know what I mean do like a reading series thing about it I spent I spent the entire decade of the 1950s in

a Tibetan monastery doing nothing but eating pussy eating fruit that casts no shadow and by that i mean pussy just just more stage just subsisted off pussy for 10 straight years that was my caloric intake trust me when i say more but context i don't know if anybody even knows who morris dees is he started the southern poverty law center he's kind of a recurring character in our own real universe here nothing but potato chips and pussy and i don't even believe in the holy ghost maurice dees does not believe in the holy ghost maurice dees doesn't believe in the holy ghost oh fuck i actually don't call that because our buddies that don't probably get pissed off at us they Oh, fuck.

Actually, don't call that because our buddies that know it probably get pissed off at us. They love to rush to defend all these. They love the Morris Dees, man. That's a weird thing about it, though.

It's like, damn, the Ku Klux Klan could just get sued into... If that's what they did, can't we just sue the alt-right? That's what we need, dude. We gotta bring

Morris Dees out of retirement to sue Identity Europa and the Proud Boys and everybody. He's coming out of retirement, folks. We go, me and you, we travel for like three months through like the harsh Tibetan wilderness. Like we're trudging up mountains. We have mules. We have pack mules. You know what i mean like i've got a beer we've got beers and they're frozen with icicles and everything and um you know we find this old we find this miserly old man who's like 110 years old to like we're like can you take us to him he's like like, I can do that. You know, and we encounter mountain lions on the way.

We encounter all the most arduous things. And then we find this little run-down monastery shack, like way up in the Tibetan plateau. And there's just a few gardeners out front, you know what I mean? And inside is Morris Dees. Just, you know know he's in the meditation pose or whatever and he's just going to town not even an actual pussy it's like a

a fucking a peach yeah i've been trying to keep my we're just like morris we need you man society's falling apart yeah you gotta come out of retirement sorry boys my days are ordered yeah holy shit man anyways real local people we need to refine the morris dees doesn't believe in the holy ghost bit a little bit more that's got legs totally that's good that's good um so yeah real some real local people jimmy codd called me up says look for some real local people jimmy codd called me upstairs looking for some real local people that is a funny ass story though um jimmy carter peanut farmer from georgia was like i know what i need what what they were like passing some sort of like legislation what i don't even remember what it was

was it the the uh smacker in the rose garden no god damn if i have to hear some fucking environment eastern kentucky environmental person like pulling rank on some young enviro if i say i was in the rose garden jimmy carter signed smack it's like you want a goddamn cookie for that like it did nothing i think it was when they were, it had something to do with South America. It had something to do with like, before I get too down the road about this, that's another surefire sign that our whole system is just bullshit.

What? Laws, the shit that's signed into law, you can set your watch back. It's going to be undone in no time it totally will be well and it's also though like for a group of people that put so much faith in the idea of the you know the arc of the moral universe bending towards justice and everything it's like did they not have they not noticed how like every the civil rights act um you know welfare reform everything you know every sort of piece of legislation passed between 1930 and 1965 has been systematically just dismantled

or just rendered ineffectual ow that hurt yeah man podcasting too hard'm going to get a chipped tooth. I'll give you a little character, man. I chipped a tooth from podcasting. I look like Jim Carrey in Dumb and Dumber. I was going to say Nas, but yeah. Nas? Nas chipped a tooth? Yeah, he's got a chipped tooth. That's his trademark.

That's he really? Damn. We don't fuck with Nas on this show. He's a wife beater. That's his trademark. That's he really? Yeah. Damn. We don't fuck with Nas in this show. He's a wife beater. Yeah, fuck Nas. Damn, so I'll also add on that note, Jay-Z won that goddamn battle.

I'm not gonna re-litigate this, but anybody that thinks that Nas beat Jay-Z in that battle is a fucking idiot. Every time we bring this up, you say, I'm not gonna re-litigate it, and then you wind up relitigating tom sexton the one man who hasn't let the naz jay-z beef go by without comment nothing pisses me off worse no a few things make my blood boil than somebody saying nas well it's because it's like it's like anybody who tries to say that like neil young's a better guitar player than like uh fucking jimmy page

assumption dude i don't i love neil young way more young is a better guitar player than jimmy page well no maybe not technically yes he's a better song listen if you make better music you're but i don't care i don't care if you have goddamn uh john friscanti can fucking make that motherfucker talk but i don't like red hot chili peppers i don't like any of that bullshit that's true i guess what i mean is that some of neil young's guitar solos are literally just one note. Like... It works, man. It works. Trust me, I love it. I'd listen to Neil Young seven days out of the week over Led Zeppelin.

You know? I mean, I fucking... I fuck with Neil Young. I fuck with Neil Young. No one fucks with Neil Young harder than me. Remember when Willie Davis said Neil Young sucked and Bob Dylan rules? That's just the biggest self-owned. Okay, that's probably a pretty good comparison to the Jay-Z, Nas thing.

But Nas is nowhere near Bob Dylan. Well, I guess the point is some people just have opinions. I don't know. I would say Nas is a very heralded figure in hip-hop. I would say he is a Bob Dylan-esque figure. Well, but he's nowhere near as prolific. And that's the thing. Who the fuck is?

True. Bob Dylan has like 80 albums. Yeah. That's what I got. Damn, still, and they keep coming. Right. I like Bob Dylan. I like Neil Young probably more.

I fucking hate Bob Dylan. Do you really? Damn, this has become my least favorite type of content. All right. Talking about shit. Damn, this has become my least favorite type of content. All right. Talking about shit. Okay, take all that out. Talking about shit, people. No, I'm not taking it.

But real local people. Back to the speech. You didn't finish the story about the speech, I don't think. Oh, well, it was just peppered with come together tropes and finding common ground. And, like, that's going to be the way forward. And in my head, I'm just thinking, no. No, that's a no for me, bro.

So that was kind of it. Well, the thing is— Anticlimactic, I know. That's like I said earlier, though. Like, they're stuck in another time, man. History cannot move for them.'re not but they're not though like you said like there has never been a time where like we were that within a range of debate and if we were then the democrats were not doing their job and were corrupt right well i'm saying for them they think that um this is not an original point but they are stuck in a time when politics when they thought

that politics was some sort of uh game that the higher nobility the honorable people of our city they have a very aristocratic view of politics it is just a formality yet another reason why we need to ditch electoralism but no yeah you're right you're right like because honestly it's just modeled after rome and like english aristocracy well and the thing is is that like i'm not sure how much longer they can keep up this pretense and that's the thing that's so interesting to me about it and that's why literally on twitter earlier this week i was like i wouldn't be surprised if in five years they were bombing post offices because like I don't... If we want to radicalize the libs, this is the way to go.

Well, I just mean that like, I wonder if in five years they're going to start becoming, I don't even view that as radical, like as a form of nihilism. Like I don't see how they could keep up this pretense for much longer because it's becoming more and more obvious

that, you know, that... The fix is in. The fix is in, right, right. And you saw it on the face of that one, you know, you saw The fix is in. The fix is in, right, right. And you saw it on the face of that one, you know, you saw it on the face of that one woman, like, I can't believe after March for Jeff Sessions. You could see it in her face. It was just this sort of like...

Pure disillusionment. Totally. It was this like emptied out, just vacant, sort of incredulous face. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know know it was just very disturbing but i i don't see okay what i guess what i mean is that i've noticed this with a lot of my co-workers every time i talk to them it's bad thing after bad thing after bad thing it is never any kind

of silver lining or anything like that it's always it is just this endless spiraling pit of despair and hopelessness where things just get worse and worse and worse and and so i'm like well what's your solution then like okay we both seem to agree that things are getting worse like what's the solution and their solution is just run beto in 2020 you know what i mean it's it's weird it's like okay if that's your opinion i respect it whatever but surely you have to admit at some point that that is you know what I mean it's woefully inadequate to dealing

with any of this if you're a smart intellectual reasonable person you would see that eventually and if they don't what I'm afraid of is that they're going to just sort of fall back into some sort of like nihilism where they either just like totally disengage from it altogether or they start bombing post offices and let's hope for the sake of our if beto doesn't beat trump in 2020 libs are gonna start bombing post offices that's

your that's your that's your you're the swami. That's your crystal ball projection. Well, it may not be literally that, but it is like they're going to, they will enter a realm of nihilism that has some truly dark implications, I think. Well, I guess maybe they'll just straight up maybe just become conservatives, you know? Like the idea of the loyal opposition and it's all, and it's just sort of like institutional whatever you know i made this tweet a few weeks a few months ago or whatever that was like it's become easier you know it's the frederick jameson line about capitalism it's become easier to envision the end of the world than the end of capitalism i also kind of think that about the democrats or i did at one point like it's become easier to envision the end of the world than the democrats but i'm actually kind of starting to see now that it might be starting to unravel for them,

their hegemony and everything. I don't know. Maybe it's just I'm sort of optimistic today and I'm feeling a little more cheery than I was last week. So you're endorsing Beto 2020? Yeah, I'm endorsing Beto 2020. Beto and his running mate. Who'd be the best running mate for beto

they'll probably no he needs like the schlubbiest like just like you know like god looks like he hasn't showered and has you know what i'm saying like like beto is like that nurturing like uncle you know what i mean and he needs his like schlubby sidekick that's gonna like you know interesting so you think he needs somebody who like every guy that dashing has like a just a you know kind of a pudgy homely like funny like the funny fat guy sidekick like a jonah hill type character or something like a yeah well yeah or a seth rogan type guy yeah except jonah Hill's hot now. Yeah, he is hot now.

Fuck. How does that happen, man? That's crazy to me that you can have so much money you can just get hot. I'm trying to get like him. Oh, fuck. Yeah.

Yeah, that's pretty funny, man. Politics, baby. Well, so yeah, speaking of, here's another sort of liberal thing, a liberal brain disease from the week, is the, did you see where Alyssa Milano and some other white lib was backing out of the Women's March because Linda Sarsour and a few others refused to um disown or or um take a stance against farrakhan did you see that no

yeah interesting yeah which is like i mean what what what what happened in the last, was it the Pittsburgh shooting? Why has Farrakhan reentered the discourse? What about it in the last few weeks? It's a head fake. A head fake? Well, before they would take white supremacists to tasks, prominent ones. I mean, it's just like Louis Farrakhan's just a stand-in. It's just like, what was the thing last week?

What was it about him and his anti-Semitism? What was the thing about Louis Farrakhan? How did Louis Farrakhan even come on the damn scene? Maggie Haberman had something that was like, the left needs to denounce Farrakhan, and everybody's like, Farrakhan's not on the left. Farrakhan's not on the left. No, Farrakhan's not on the left. But Farrakhan's one of those guys

and here's a little disclaimer here. I actually knew Farrakhan's grandson for a little bit. Oh, yeah. Yeah, Mustafa. I was gonna say Kenneth Farid. I don't know why I thought that was. Not Farrakhan's grandson.

But, you know, one thing that I remember talking to him about briefly was that, like, you know, he doesn't agree with his granddad's position, but his granddad has a strong position for why he feels about white people the way he feels. We didn't touch the Jew thing. But, Okay. Just so you know, we're not talking about Jewish people, we're talking about white people.

We're just talking about his thing. So you know how like in NOI theology, there's this origin story about white people being... Devils, right? Devils, yeah. And produced on an island by Yaacoub. See, the thing is, I can meet him halfway there. I can about get there with him.

But anyway, so he was just talking about how some beach that he visited when he was a kid, his Louis Farrakhan, had a sign that said, no dogs, no Jews, only it didn't use Jews, it used the derogatory word. And no N-word. And so he said that left an impression on him. Do you know anything about the guy who started the Nation of Islam? Clarence 13X? No, Wallace Fard Muhammad. It was Clarence 13X? No, Wallace Fard Muhammad.

It was Clarence 13X, right? Is that his name? No, I don't know if he ever took that name. This is for my, I don't know who Clarence 13X is. Maybe Clarence, I want to change my name to Terrence 13X. No, he's a leader of the... He started a 5% nation, which is not... Oh, okay.

Yeah, Terrence13x was a 5%er. It spun off of NOI. No, the Nation of Islam was started by this guy. So this is for all my Unsolved Mystery fans out there, because I spent a lot of time... This is the guy that assassinated Malcolm X

right no technically Farrakhan probably assassinated Malcolm X well not literally but he probably put the hit out for

probably order okay no Wallace D Wallace I used to know a lot more about like the Islamic alphabetology and all these kind of

right like apostate Islam religions right how why I got into his research area for a while and all these kind of apostate Islam religions. Right. How? Why? I got into his research area for a while. You know, Louis Farrakhan has a lot of good Calypso records.

Really? Yeah, he was a pretty popular musician. He's also an incredible violinist. I saw a video circulating the other day of him playing some Mendelssohn. He's amazing, but it's like... It's pretty hateful stuff sometimes, but it's like that's so like kind of hate it's like pretty hateful stuff sometimes but like it's pretty good so random no um no this is for my my homies out there who spend a lot of time on the unresolved mysteries reddit

yeah yeah unresolved i don't know why they didn't put unsolved mysteries it's unresolved. I don't know why they didn't put unsolved mysteries. It's unresolved. Interesting. But a huge unsolved mystery is what happened to Wallace D. Fard, also known as Wallace Fard Muhammad. He arrived, and this is the thing, nobody really knows where he came from either. He sort of came out of obscurity and nowhere and disappeared into obscurity and nowhere. No, I think Elijah Muhammad is probably who you're thinking of. Actually probably ordered the hit on Malcolm X.

Elijah Muhammad and Wallace Fard Muhammad started the Nation of Islam. He arrived in Detroit in 1930 with an obscure background and several aliases and taught an idiosyncratic form of Islam to members of the city's black population. He was also known as being a seller of silk, incense, and perfume But who's this again? This is Wallace Fahar. Wallace Fahar. Yeah. But remembered as being a light-skinned black man by leaders of the Nation of Islam. And it's even...

That is true. Yeah, I forgot. Like, didn't he say, like, he was Egyptian or... It's even sort of postulated that he might have actually been a white guy he might have been a sort of dolezal type figure back in the 30s like pat trying to pass because he was you know kind of a grifter it sounds like but the thing is he was last seen in 1933 by elijah muhammad when fard took off in an airplane from the detroit airport never heard from him again nobody ever heard from him again. Nobody ever heard from him again.

That's it. He came to Detroit, and in three years, he started preaching in living rooms. This sort of like form of, he was basically like podcasting. He's basically doing what we're doing now. So you think, like a sort of hybrid.

You think he was the first podcaster? In many ways, he was. He would have like living room sermons where he early on fused elements of Islam and Christianity and other religions. And then started gaining a following in Detroit. And then hooked up with Elijah Muhammad and they started the Nation of Islam. And then he just disappeared. Man, these are fascinating. There's a

book, it's Essays on the Margins of Islam by Peter Lindborn Wilson that I read and that's how I kind of got into this stuff. But another figure that's fascinating is, have you ever read about Malachi York? No. The leader of the

Nuwabians? No. He's a dandy. Malachi York? Dr. Malachi York? No. The leader of the Nuwabians? No. He's a dandy. Malachi York? Malachi, Dr. Malachi Z York. How do you spell Malachi? M-A-L-A-C-H-I. Malachi York.

Yeah. Malachi Z York. Hold on. Or Dwight York, also known as Dwight York. Dwight D York, also known as Malachi Z York. Yeah. Issa Al Hadi Al Madi, Dright York, also known as Dwight York. Dwight D. York, also known as Malachi Z. York.

Issa Al-Hadi Al-Madi, Dr. York, is an American musician and writer who is known as the founding leader of various religious political groups, including most notably the cult New Wild Bein Movement. He is also a convicted child molester. Oh, yeah, you gotta. Wow. Oh, and he's actually in prison. He at usp florence in florence colorado um serving 135 year sentence because he was

convicted in 2004 of child molestation and violations of rack holy shit man yeah well you know like it's crazy man like and i sort of wonder i worry about this with the podcast sometimes i'm like what if we just become cult leaders what if we become like if that ever um hopefully i mean i don't end up in usp florence for child molestation but i'm not ruling it out at this point okay all right um we should we should talk more about that sometime soon that's pretty fascinating history what malachi z york well just just like the sort of inner city mystery you know apostate islam religions not that we're qualified to even speak on that stuff but i think it's

interesting yeah totally um so just before we go though speaking of unsolved mysteries this was sent to me by mike by somebody i don't know by somebody i do not know our good buddy mike sent me this my bandmate and tenure who you can come watch this Friday at Summit City Lounge. Motherfucker. This is a unsolved mystery that intersects with Letcher County. And he just found this randomly. Just looking at the. Really?

Yeah, the funny thing about this is me and Mike have been on the Unresolved Mysteries Reddit for a while and we even interacted with each other multiple times and had no idea it was each other that's so weird

William Woolheater was last seen on February 26th 1981 he lived in Albany New York until deciding to move to New Orleans

to work as a cook his last known contact was a brief phone call to his mother a few days after he was supposed to leave for New Orleans. And every report I see on this case mentions that he never told her whether or not he actually made it there. Police apparently have no idea where he was at the time of the call. Um, are you familiar with this podcast?

My favorite murder. Everybody loves it. Yeah. I've seen it when I check out our. Yeah. Patreon rankings. It's terrible. This is what our show is going to become. It's just me telling you unsolved mysteries.

Which is fucking stupid because like we're way better than they are. Dude. That podcast sucks. It's really really boring. And it's also like really pro-police and stuff like that. You know what I mean? Which if anybody's ever spent any time on Unsolved Mysteries, you'll know that the vast majority of mysteries go unsolved because of police.

Yeah. Because they're terrible detectives or, as many people have pointed out before, most serial killers are probably just cops. Yeah, yeah. Police apparently have no idea where he was at the time of the call. Times Union reports that it isn't known whether he even got on a bus. After this, he was never seen or heard from again. Police are still looking for leads as of 2017, 36 years later.

William, who also went by Willie, was 22 and lived with bipolar disorder that he had been hospitalized for. And here's another sort of common theme in a lot of unsolved mysteries. You know, mental illness, bipolar disorder. Somebody goes off their meds and they, you know, become disoriented and wind up who knows where. At the time of his disappearance, he was on medication. He also had a prior arrest in California

where he was visiting, living with a relative for walking in traffic while intoxicated. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But here is the thing there is here's the thing um you know a lot of people try to solve where these people wound up whatever there is one john doe that strikes me as likely this man found in letcher county kentucky weight, and a nose fracture matches up, and the sketch looks uncannily similar. On the other hand, the other fractures don't quite line up.

Joe Bogg? Dude. Well, he was, the body was found on Pine Mountain. So, I mean, it, uh. So, he definitely was here. Yeah, well, they got a picture of him,

and dude, these photos are always creepy as fuck. I mean, obviously. Like, anytime you see a picture like that, dude these photos are always creepy as fuck I mean obviously like anytime you see a picture like that it's gonna be creepy the fuck yeah but that's the John Doe they found on Pine Mountain

that's an unidentified body they found on Pine Mountain and it's very it's you know from reading that post it's possible that that was the guy he wound up in

Letcher County, Kentucky how the fuck there's no inclination as to why wow pretty crazy man wow totally How the fuck? There's no inclination as to why. Pretty crazy, man. Wow.

Totally. Yeah, we're... Let's get out of politics. Let's get into true crime. Yeah, we need to get into true crime. We need a new thing. We need a new thing. Season three, man, is going to be true crime.

This is not a left politics podcast anymore. This is true crime, baby. Hey, another good Letcher County one is Edgar Sumter. Go read that shit. I think you sent me this one not long ago. Edgar Sumter is fucking crazy. Is this the one on Pine Creek? Yeah, dude.

He fucking stabbed his dad in the head 18 times with a Phillips head screwdriver. Or a flathead screwdriver. Fuck. And then just never was found. He's disappeared. He's still out there. He's on the run? Yeah, he's still out there. How long ago was this?

I was in high school. Dude, I'm not exaggerating when I say that my favorite murder podcast is this. That's all they do. They just talk about like this like about a case like this okay well and people love it dude they go they have like live shows i'm like how the fuck does anybody go to like listen to two people talk about but people do they love it that's what we need to do man season three our patreon skyrocket yeah listen folks we're gonna our work's done here.

Now we're in true crime. All right, we're at an hour and nine minutes, so let's... Let's nix it there. Let's nix it there. Thanks for listening this week, everybody,

and come to the show on Friday. Friday, November 16th. This Friday. Yes. Come to the show, November 16th. This Friday. Yes. Come to the show, motherfuckers. You're a fool

to think your dick would work in 30. Fast 52. All right. We'll maybe even sing a few Steely Dan songs like that.

But anyways, hopefully we'll see you soon. Bye. See y'all.