True Crime with Kendall Rae - Her Body Was Hidden on the Family Farm for 3 Years... The Dee Warner Case

Episode Date: August 20, 2026

In April 2021, Dee Warner disappeared from her home in Lenawee County, Michigan. Her sudden disappearance immediately concerned her family, who refused to believe she had simply walked away from her ...life. For more than three years, they fought for answers... until Dee’s remains were finally discovered hidden inside a sealed tank on property belonging to her husband. What followed brought long-awaited answers about what happened to Dee and ultimately led to a murder conviction.This episode is sponsored by:Square: get up to $200 off Square hardware when you sign up at square.com/go/TCKR! #squarepodMerit Beauty: right now, Merit Beauty is offering our listeners their Signature Makeup Bag free with your first order at merit beauty dot com.SmileSet: listeners of our show get an additional 35% discount when they go to smileset.com/tckrRocket Money: let Rocket Money help you reach your financial goals faster. Join at rocketmoney.com/kenallraeQuince: get free shipping on your order and 365-day returns at quince.com/tckrCheck out my foundation: Higher Hope Foundation: https://www.higherhope.org/Watch my documentaries:530 Days: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjUWkmOjNLkApartment 801: https://bit.ly/2RJ9XXr True Crime with Kendall Rae podcast:Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3rks84oSpotify: https://spoti.fi/3jC66prShop my Merch! https://kendallrae.shopCheck out my other podcasts:Mile Higher (True Crime) @milehigherpodYouTube: https://bit.ly/2ROzJcwInstagram: http://instagram.com/milehigherpodThe Sesh (Current events, a little true crime, pop culture, and commentary) https://bit.ly/3Mtoz4X @the_seshpodcastInstagram: https://bit.ly/3a9t6Xr*Follow My Social!* @KendallRaeOnytInstagram: http://instagram.com/kendallraeonytFacebook: https://bit.ly/3kar4NKTrue Crime TikTok: https://bit.ly/3VDbc77Personal TikTok: https://bit.ly/41hmRKgREQUESTS: General case suggestion form: https://zfrmz.com/yg9cuiWjUe2QY3hSC2V0Form for people directly related/close to the victim: https://zfrmz.com/HGu2hZso42aHxARt1i67Join my discord to chat with other viewers about this video, it’s free! https://discord.com/invite/an4stY9BCNC O N T A C T:For Business Inquiries - kendallrae@night.coSend me mail: Kendall Rae 8547 E Arapahoe Rd Ste J #233 Greenwood Village, CO 80112

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Starting point is 00:00:09 Hello everyone and welcome back to another episode of True Crime with Kendall Ray. Thank you so very much for joining me today. And if you're new to this show, then welcome. Make sure you click subscribe or follow if you're an audio listener so that you never miss an upload from me. Now, today, you guys, I'm quite emotional because this is my last recording in this studio. And as excited as I am for you guys to see my new studio, it's going to be really cool. Definitely a couple levels up from a. anything that I've ever recorded out of. But I don't know. So much has happened in this studio. I feel like from the time that I started recording in here to today, I have become a very different person. I have learned so many different things. I just feel like, yeah, a completely different version of myself. I've covered so many interesting cases here, had so many emotional moments here. I've worked with wonderful families over the years and recorded their stories out of this studio and have had so many great times with all of you. So it's really the end of an era and the start of a new chapter. I'm also going to be recording sounds weird, but out of my house,
Starting point is 00:01:23 which sounds like I'm recording in the house, but I will be in an actual workplace setting over at my office building. I'll have a studio over there, which means that my cat Lily, who has been with us through so many recordings over the years, even before this studio, will no longer be here for recordings because she's too old for me to drag her over to my studio every day. That's just not fair to her. In fact, I'm sure you're wondering where she is. I don't know. She's somewhere in my house. My cat would never leave my home, but she's hiding right now and I'm like, really, girl, this is your last day. You were retiring today and you decide just not to show up, but everyone in my house is looking for her right now. It's quite possible. She will make an appearance
Starting point is 00:02:04 throughout the episode, which I really hope because I'm very sad that she's not here. We have been working on studios for all of the Mile Higher Media shows. They are all getting new studios. And we have been working on them all of 2026, even before that, actually. So it's been a long time coming, and I cannot wait to unveil, unveil, reveal, unveil them all to you. So, yeah, very exciting things ahead. Now, of course, I am here to tell you guys about a case today. and it is one that is going to blow your mind. It certainly blew mine. When I started looking into the details of it,
Starting point is 00:02:42 it's just truly unbelievable, and it is one that needs coverage because of things that are currently unfolding. But wow, I could not believe what I was seeing when I started looking into this case. And it was actually a suggestion from many of you, so thank you to everyone who recommended it. The betrayal in this case is just absolutely devastating
Starting point is 00:03:03 and infuriating, and I cannot tell you guys how grateful I am that justice in this case was finally served, although way too late. And this justice happened quite recently, actually. Today we're going to be talking about the disappearance and murder of Deanne Warner. And I know her case has been covered by a few major streaming platforms, but most of that coverage came out before there was a conclusion, and not to be a hater, but I thought a lot of the professionally produced coverage of this case was pretty poorly done. It missed so many details, all of the coverage that I had seen on it. You know, the professionally produced ones, not, you know, not trying to diss on any other creators, but the ones with the big budgets really messed their coverage up, surprisingly. But anyway, that's
Starting point is 00:03:54 besides the point, there is so much more to go over, so much more to this story than people even know. And as of early 2026, the beginning of this year, D's case finally concluded, giving her family the piece that they so badly deserve and needed. Before getting into this episode, I just wanted to thank you all for listening to and supporting my show and also any of the Mile Higher Media shows. Your support makes it possible for us to continue funding grants through my foundation, and higher hope, which supports victims of violent crimes, their families, and like-minded nonprofits. And with that, let's get into today's case. I am eager to tell you more about who Dee was, because she was a very dynamic and fun person. And before Dee Warner was Dee Warner, she was Dee Hardy. She was born on
Starting point is 00:04:41 July 29th, 1968, in the rural farming community of Lenoway County, Michigan, where she spent her entire life in and around farm culture. Now, she came from a long line of farmers, really part of her heritage. And with that, she grew up learning what it took to work in that industry. Now, I cannot say that I know much about farm life, farm culture, but I do know just, you know, from what I have heard and in research that I've done on many cases, that it is no walk in the park. It is a very time-consuming, demanding life to live. There are very long, grueling days with little to no time off, and there's always more that can be done, right? And I'm sure some of you understand exactly what I'm talking about. And that was something that Dee and her older brother, Greg, truly understood.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Greg was actually 19 years older than her, so he was almost like a father figure to her in a lot of ways, but despite their age gap, he says they were quite similar, personality-wise at least. And a big part of Dee's personality throughout her entire life was her involvement in 4-H, which, if you didn't know, is a youth development organization rooted in farming and agriculture. Dee was involved in 4-H from a very young age, and she was particularly drawn to participating in the local fairs. She absolutely loved the fair, and that remained true into her adulthood as well. In fact, Dee was really involved in 4-H pretty much her entire life, and she dedicated a ton of time and effort into the youth in the program in her area, which I really think from my research that is a perfect representation of who Dee really was. If there was something or someone that Dee cared about, you would be damned to get in her way of helping that person or that thing.
Starting point is 00:06:35 And she also really seemed to be that type of person who just put her everything into all things that she cared about and had a lot of pride. Now, some, I guess, described this as almost to a fault because according to her loved ones, D could definitely come across as a little abrasive to some people. But that tough exterior was just an exterior. She was described as having the biggest heart in the world. and once you were able to see past her harder shell, she was nothing but love. But don't get me wrong. She could, however, rip you two shreds if she needed to. I mean, we're talking about a woman in a male-dominated field, and that meant acting the part, right? I will say I think some of that toughness probably just came from living the farm life, and I also know that seemed to run in their family. Like I said, she and her brother Greg were a lot alike. And he says that they both were the kind of people who'd rather tough through something themselves than ask for help. D was someone who liked to take charge, but she did it from a place of wanting to help the people that she cared about. And of all the people she cared about in the world, there was nobody that meant more to her than her children. Now, Dee first married a man named Tim Block, who she had four kids with. Their names are Amber, T.J., Zach, and R. And
Starting point is 00:07:59 And man, does it sound like they were lucky to have her as a mom? Because she was not only deeply devoted to them, but as they grew older and started to have kids of their own, she was the best Nana to her grandkids as well. And she insisted on being called Nana, and she was the first person to help out with babysitting and planning fun activities. She wanted to be a big part of their lives too. And another thing about Dee that you should know is she loved to have a good time. And It sounds like she was a very fun person to be around. She was described as the life of the party. She loved the glitz.
Starting point is 00:08:34 She loved the glamour of getting dressed up. And just overall was a very happy and lively fun person. Her nephew Parker said that she was always done up. Anytime that she left the house, even if she was just, you know, going to the gas station or the grocery store or something like that. She loved shopping. She loved clothes. She loved sheet of print and just had a strong sense of self and wasn't afraid to be herself.
Starting point is 00:08:57 Bottom line is dull is not a word that you would use to describe D. And so I think that's why people were so shocked and a little confused when she got divorced from Tim and married another man named Dale Warner. Now, the divorce on its own was shocking for many reasons. But one thing that really surprised people was D, as I just said, was the opposite of D and she was now marrying Dale, who was the definition of dull. But what was even more shocking to people was the fact that Dale and his ex-wife were rival farmers. And you want to know something even crazier, Dale's ex-wife later ended up marrying Dee's ex-husband.
Starting point is 00:09:43 They kind of just swapped. Pretty wild. So as you could probably put together, it was controversial to say the least. Support from today's episode comes from Square. the business platform that helps sellers become neighborhood favorites. Whether you're gearing up for busy season or just trying to keep up with the everyday demand, Square keeps your business running smoothly, everything from payments to POS to online orders, inventory staff, and more all in one place, so you can focus on your customers and not your
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Starting point is 00:12:21 And actually, they started three businesses, two farming businesses and then also a trucking company. And then they also had a daughter of their own, Angelina, who everyone called Lena. So I will be referring to her as Lena in this episode. But Lena meant every. to Dee. That's really important to note. But anyway, like Dee, Dale had four kids from his first marriage. And to be honest, I'm not sure how integrated all of their children were or how close they were, but from my understanding, they were all teens or young adults when their parents got together.
Starting point is 00:12:54 But that's kind of besides the point. What I'm trying to say is that Dee and Dale had really started a new life together. And according to many, it didn't appear like this relationship was really built on a foundation. of love. Of course, some people saw that in them and thought that they were a very happy and very loving couple, but others thought that Dee liked Dale because Dale shared her motivation for success. She wanted to work hard and play hard, and she wanted a partner who was interested in building an empire alongside her. And so it seems like he was the kind of person that she thought she could do that with. And I think what threw people off was, despite their shared drive and ambition, their personalities were truly complete opposites. I mean, you heard how I described Dee. She
Starting point is 00:13:46 sounded super fun, but Dale was more boring than unflavored jello. I mean, the dude really did not have much to him. He really lacked personality and also a hairline. But yeah, it appeared like their marriage was more of a business agreement. But I will say their businesses were very successful. Dale was in charge of the farming operations and was sort of the muscle behind the operation. And then D was the brains and the financial manager. And of all their businesses, their trucking company was by far the most profitable. I mean, big time stuff. They were bringing in like $10 million a year or something like that. Now, I'm pretty sure D owned that trucking business 100%, or at the very least, I know that she felt a very strong sense of ownership of it. And I'm bringing all this up because
Starting point is 00:14:38 it is important to the case, so keep all of that in mind. And another super important detail here is the location where these businesses were run. And that was on their own personal farm, which was often referred to in this case as the Munger property because it was located on Munger Road. Now to my audio listeners, this is a great part to pay attention because I'm going to be describing how all of this was set up and you're sort of going to have to visualize it. But I will have pictures on screen for my YouTube viewers and do you want to pop over to YouTube and, you know, check it out. It's a lot easier to picture if you can actually picture it, right? But to illustrate it for you, they lived in Tipton, Michigan on this big farm property that included a home and an
Starting point is 00:15:25 external office, as well as several metal barns, which housed all of the equipment and materials they needed to operate their business. And it was on that property on April 24th, going into April 25th, 2021, where Dee vanished. That day was a Sunday, and it started out the way that all Sunday mornings did on the farm. Dee's daughter Raquel lived just a few miles down the street, and their routine was that she, her kids, and her boyfriend would always go over on Sunday mornings to make breakfast. And then after breakfast, her boyfriend would typically go home, and then she, her mom, her kids, and Lena would all go grocery shopping. So when Raquel showed up around 9.30 that morning, she was confused when her mom wasn't there. Although, truth be told,
Starting point is 00:16:12 she wasn't immediately panicked. She poked around a few rooms and didn't see her. So she ended up just popping some toast in the toaster and figure that her mom would, you know, walk in any minute. Now, for reference, Raquel had seen that her mom's Hummer was parked at the office building and not at the back door where she usually left it. So she assumed Dee couldn't have been far. She also noticed that Dale's JCB tractor was parked over at the office, so she thought he may have been in there too. Now, I'll get into this shortly, but Raquel was aware that her mom was planning to have this very big, very heated discussion with Dale the night before. So when she saw those vehicles at the office, she figured maybe they're in there arguing about that conversation. And for some visual context, the office was no more than 100 yards away from the house.
Starting point is 00:17:05 But Dee was notorious for never walking anywhere. So it made sense to Raquel why the car would have been moved, even if her mom wasn't going very far. So anyways, she ends up texting her mom, you know, trying to just figure out if the plan was still the same for the day, but she didn't get a reply. So her boyfriend and her kids and her all left to go back home. And as soon as she pulled into her driveway, though, Raquel just got this, you know, gut feeling that something was off and she needed to keep looking for her mom. And that feeling only got stronger when she tried calling her and her phone went straight to voicemail, which is something that never happened because Dee was absolutely glued to her phone. She was sort of. of at this point having that, oh shit, moment when her mom was not answering, when the phone was going right to voicemail. And that kicked off Raquel, being a little more concerned and making some other calls. So she first calls her brother Zach, who said that he hadn't heard from her either. So she then calls her mom's personal assistant, Stephanie, who said the same thing. Then she went back
Starting point is 00:18:14 to the house and walked over to her mom's office, thinking that if Dee and Dale were fighting, then Lena was probably there. and she didn't want her to witness that. But anyway, the office was empty, and that was a big concern. So from there, she continued calling her other siblings, T.J. and Amber, as she made her way down the road to her uncle Greg and Aunt Shelley's house. Now, it doesn't sound like Raquel thought that her mom was there because both of her cars were at the Munger property. Her Hummer was at the office, and then her Cadillac was parked in the garage. But still, she wanted to see if her aunt and uncle had her mom.
Starting point is 00:18:50 at least heard from her maybe. But when she was over at their property looking for them, she happened to get a call from Dale. Now, he wanted to know if she had spoken to her mom because he was saying that he couldn't get a hold of her. He also mentioned that they had gone into a fight the night before, which, you know, Raquel already knew that was probably the case. And now he was concerned because she wasn't answering his calls, which is a very, very key detail here. So hold on to that, okay? So she is over at her aunt and uncle's place, and after talking with Shelly, it didn't sound like she knew where Dee was either. And then from there, Raquel drove to another property that Dee owned called Cedar Point, but that was empty too. Which, yes, very
Starting point is 00:19:36 strange, but something you must know is there had been other times where Dee sort of just left for a few days. With the pressure of running her businesses and all that, sometimes she would just leave for a bit. However, the difference this time, though, was D was not reachable, and the other times she was. And another difference was anytime she would leave, she would always take Lena with her. But not this time. And turns out Lena had actually spent the night before at a family member's house. And Raquel learned that Dee never came to pick her up, which was very unusual. So next, Raquel returns to the Munger property. I believe Shephyl. was with her too, and that's when she started to search inside the home. And I know it's a lot. It's probably getting a little confusing. This case in general is a little confusing, but stay with me because it is just absolutely wild how all of this unfolds. But while Raquel was looking through all of the bedrooms, her two brothers had shown up as well, and they started to search the office building. Now, their property, as you can imagine, had a handful of security cameras. So they were in the
Starting point is 00:20:45 office going through that footage to see if anyone came to pay. pick up their mom that morning. And nothing ended up being found, but while they were there looking, Dale showed up. Dee's personal assistant, Stephanie, had called him about 30 to 45 minutes prior, telling him that everyone was looking for Dee. And he told her that he was out spraying a neighbor's property and would be home in about that amount of time. So when he came back to the munger property, the office was the first place he went. And when he was there, he made what seemed like a pretty big discovery, Dee's wedding ring. He said that it was just sitting on his desk and that she must have left it there before leaving. And I'm sure some of you who follow enough true crime coverage can see where this is going. But anyway, Dale then brings that ring into the house where Raquel was still looking around and he told her the same thing that she had probably left it on his desk and then left. And he was also kind of just word-vombing about how she was on all these pills and basically making it seem like she had ruined his life and that all of this was proof that she had just walked away on purpose.
Starting point is 00:21:54 Plus, to support his own theory, he pointed out that a lot of Dee's personal belongings were missing too. Her makeup bag, some of her hair tools, her hairspray, things like that. They were all missing from her bathroom. Apparently, she also kept a go bag that was missing and that was just a bag filled with clothes and stuff in case she ever wanted to leave quickly. So he's like, yeah, she just dipped out intentionally. Clearly that's what happened. But why would she leave? Well, according to Dale, it was because of what happened the night before. And this is super important. So time to lock in if you're a little distracted. This is the time to focus. Okay. And actually to explain what happened on Saturday night, I have to first explain what happened on Friday. So I know we're jumping around a little bit here. But that night, on Friday, Dee was on the Munger property. usual, and that's when an argument sparked between her and her two employees this time, Todd and Terry. This fight was multi-tiered, but the big issue was that Todd was accusing Dee of not paying $360,000 in payroll taxes, and it was such a bad fight that one of them ended up quitting.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Then flash forward to Saturday morning when Dee was at Lena's soccer game, and she got a really hurtful text from Terry's girlfriend, whose name also happened to be Terry. So Terry with a Y, Terry with an eye anyway. It was a longer message, but the part that matters reads, your evil, nosy, miserable, your husband said you take Xanax because you're a mess. That's the truth he told me and Terry. And this really, understandably upset D. And she was literally hyperventilating and sobbing that entire day, which many people can attest to. She even threw up from how much she was crying. So she was, I mean, devastated by that message. And the reason that she was upset is because she felt like Dale had betrayed her. Not only did she feel like
Starting point is 00:23:49 he was siding with the employees in the fight, but she was angry that he was talking about her personal business with them too. And I'm guessing this wasn't the first time that something like this had happened either. But according to everyone that spoke with Dee that day, this was sure as hell going to be the last time that it ever did. Dee spoke to her daughter Amber, her last her sister-in-law Amy and Raquel over the course of that Saturday. And she told each of them that she was not only planning on divorcingdale, but she wanted to sell the trucking company too. She had enough of all of it and she wanted out. And honestly, this wasn't the first time that she had told people that she wanted to divorce him, but it was the first time that everyone could sense that she really meant it.
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Starting point is 00:27:09 to not be home during that. And as we know, based on what Dale had told Raquel on the morning of the 25th, that night ended in a big fight. And he told her that they fought about the Todd and Terry situation. And during that fight, Dee developed a terrible migraine, and she had taken some migraine pills. And because of that, he said that he gave her a massage and that she fell asleep on the ground as a result. And he claimed he moved her to the couch, where he claims she slept the entire. night. He also said that when he left in the morning between 6 and 6.30 a.m. to begin his farm duties, she was still snoring on the couch. And that, you guys, would end up being Dale's story throughout
Starting point is 00:27:55 all of this, or at least some variation of that. Over the coming days and weeks, the severity of that fight would change based on who he was talking to, but more or less, that's what he said happened. Now, another very key part of his story is his suggestion that Dee had left with another man. He was telling people that she had a burner phone that nobody knew about and that this guy must have picked her up sometime that morning. Now, to be clear, to be very clear, nobody believed that this was true. Now, it did eventually come out throughout this investigation that Dee was, having an affair. But that man was cleared because he was out of the country at the time. Plus, I think we all see where this is going, right? However, before it was 100% clear what had happened,
Starting point is 00:28:51 there was a period of time where Dee's brother Greg thought that she may have taken her life. He just knew how much stress she was under and how unhappy she was in her marriage, so it definitely crossed his mind. The more he spoke with Dale, though, and the more things weren't adding up, He eventually formed the opinion that Dale must have done something to her. And it definitely didn't help that Dale was the only person who didn't want to report her missing. He told her kids that he would think about reporting her missing the next day after taking Lena to school. But none of them wanted him to wait. It just made no sense.
Starting point is 00:29:32 Why wait? In fact, they all left the Munger property and went over to Zach's house where they ended up just making the missing persons report themselves. And thank God they did, because the Leno Way County Sheriff's Office took this seriously, and they began investigating her disappearance right away. That same day, a deputy came to the property
Starting point is 00:29:53 to speak with Dale, and I'll let the footage speak for itself. Are you, Dale? Nice one. I'm definitely off from the Lowe County Sheriff's Office. How are you, sir? All right, so I do you. wife missing what at all I don't know if she's missing or she just left so her guy she had an
Starting point is 00:30:14 altercation with one of our employees two of them um yesterday I think about last night she was really upset she was talking a lot of bad things as far as employees one employee decided to quit talking about killing herself and technology even but she had COVID and she had COVID and She just got three, two, three weeks ago. She just got her cold like a week or two. She ain't backed up like that it says. Her glands are swelled up, she's got infection, and she's got migraines.
Starting point is 00:30:51 And she's got a real bad migraine. So she took, she's got some migraine pills and she takes. She took quite a few of those, and then she finally, he basically passed out on the couch. Went to sleep, we got her calm down. And I thought, you know, that was close to midnight when she finally wanted to sleep. I said, I got to bed and I got to get up the morning.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Right. So she was sleeping on the couch. And then this morning, around 6 o'clock, I got up. You know, she was snowing on the way out from the wake ground. So then I went out, got my chemicals and got a sprayer loaded up on a spray badge. I had texted her and she didn't answer. So I figured, well, she's still sleeping. She's not answered.
Starting point is 00:31:34 So I loaded up another baths and I went back up. I went sitting down spring in. And then Rekyll called me, her daughter, Stephanie called me, and said Rekyll called her, she can't find her mind. And I said, well, she said, the house. She was in there, laying in the couch. Excuse me, so she couldn't find her. And then I called Rekle.
Starting point is 00:31:51 And I says, your mom's not there? She was just there. You know, one else is there or two to go? She said, no, she's not here. And I said, well, I'll be not spreading here shortly, and I'll be back. So I'm about, I don't have an hour, 45 minutes later, I got back here, and I went in the nose.
Starting point is 00:32:05 And she was gone in the nose. And she was gone in. And I walked around the house, one in the bathroom, while her hair turn was gone, her hair driver's gone, her makeup bag is gone, and she has a gold bag packed all the time. I mean, this is the first time she's the life. Usually she takes out, goes to her son's house and stays. It's all, it takes off, and it goes over there for a day. This time of the difference is she ain't any more.
Starting point is 00:32:37 I was, when she said her mom wasn't here, I wouldn't see all that stuff gone. I wasn't real concerned because she makes it all the bench. She's over her at home. Well, nobody gets old with her. Then Dale suggests that someone must have picked her up. She's gone and she took all her bag. So somebody picked her up. So she's with someone somewhere.
Starting point is 00:33:01 Do you know anybody you? I don't. They called everybody. You know, like I said, I figured she was Zach with her son. Right. I don't know what else to do other way today or so when see what she shows up. Yeah. I mean, if you saw that all, we get her all fired up.
Starting point is 00:33:17 The kids are all fired up and call the police meeting. This isn't the first time she's done this, guys. The first thing is she's not communicating with her. But the only thing that's really strange, too, is this time she put her wedding room in my dad. Yeah, she's never done that. Dale also said that D's second phone. might be something worth looking into. Is she a person who normally keeps your phone on her hip,
Starting point is 00:33:46 or is she never without it? Never without it? But I told the other kids she's got a second phone, and she doesn't let anybody know she's got a number phone. You have a phone? No, it's a secret phone that she doesn't know that I know she has it. Why would she have? I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:34:03 I have confirmed her about it because I didn't want the confrontation. I know she has another phone. Okay. Now listen, if you'd have a phone, took Dale at his word. There was nothing in the actual house that suggested foul play. There was no sign of a struggle and a lot of her personal belongings, including her wallet and passport, were missing, almost as if she took them with her. So on that front, he sounded believable. Also, his hands appeared to be completely free of scratches or anything to suggest that he had been in a
Starting point is 00:34:35 physical altercation. So actually, at first, the officer was pretty certain that foul play wasn't an issue here. But the more that they dug into everything, there was eventually just no evidence that she had left on her own accord or on purpose either. Her phone stopped reporting data around three in the morning, and there was no activity in any of her bank accounts and her social media, which she was notorious for posting every single day on had just gone silent. Not to mention the fact that both of her cars were still on the property, and their security cameras never showed anyone picking her up. So it was kind of like it doesn't look like she ran away,
Starting point is 00:35:19 but it doesn't look like she was murdered either. And Dale definitely seemed to push them towards the theory that she ran off. And at one point, he even told investigators that, $100,000 was missing from a safe in their house. According to Zach, though, Dee had her own secret stash of money in her desk that Dale didn't know about, and that money was all still there. And it was a lot of money. And if she had left on purpose, I mean, you would think she would have taken that, right? Doesn't really add up. All that to say, pretty much everyone, except for Dale, of course, was in agreement that something bad likely happened to her.
Starting point is 00:36:03 So of course, over the next several days, searches took place in and around the Munger property. And the only strange thing that anyone really noticed was this one set of tire tracks. On the morning of the 25th, when Raquel was first looking around the property, remember how I said that she saw her mom's hummer parked over at the office?
Starting point is 00:36:22 Well, that car was normally parked at the house right outside of the back sliding glass doors. And since it wasn't parked there, she happened to notice that there were tire tracks in that exact spot, and those tracks were from Dale's JCB tractor. And that is important to remember, guys. But in the commotion of that morning, Raquel eventually noticed that her mom's Hummer was moved back to the house, and it covered those tire tracks. Still, though, she vividly remembered seeing them, and thankfully detectives remembered seeing them too. And I will explain why that matters so much here in a little bit. It would be jumping too far ahead if I explain now, but just remember that. But for the context of those early search efforts,
Starting point is 00:37:11 those tire tracks were really the only thing that stood out to everyone. But anyway, as the investigation continued, detectives, of course, ended up speaking with employees of their businesses. After learning that Dee had gotten into an argument with Terry and Todd, they obviously had to pursue that as a possible lead. And for a minute there, things looked a little bit sketch with Todd. Terry, on the other hand, had an alibi and was cleared, but Todd took a little while longer. It turns out that he had been on the Munger property just after 3 a.m. on April 25th, which was around the time that Dee's phone shut off. He had gone there to pick up a truck, which he was driving out to Chicago, and rather than logging his name on the record sheet, he used another employee's name, which is definitely
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Starting point is 00:39:58 Smileset.com slash T-C-KR. Apparently that night he had taken one of their work trucks to drop something off further than he was technically allowed to go, hence why he says he lied. And investigators also found out that he was the kind of truck driver who liked to pay women for sex at truck stops. And there was this one woman that I guess he was known to visit quite often. in and they ended up actually having her go undercover with a wire to see if maybe he would confess to anything. But through that, they realized he was actually totally torn up about the whole thing and probably innocent. And honestly, though, there was only one person who reasonably could have done something to her, and that was Dale. I mean, he was the last person to see her,
Starting point is 00:40:51 and by that point, everyone knew that they had gotten into this giant argument the night before she vanished. Investigators on the other hand, of course, still had quite a long way to go before they felt the same. And thankfully, a few days after she was first reported missing, deputies spoke with him a second time to see what more they could learn. And this time, he finally opened up about the fight that they had. And he detailed the events he said transpired that night. So did you have that conversation that I didn't know? She didn't say anything about something. Well, she tried to start an argument about, I said, no, we're not going to argue tonight. What would be trouble if she didn't argue about?
Starting point is 00:41:33 She wanted to, because of Terry, she had the complication of tears. Yeah. And they went over and she kept saying, you won't back me up. You won't back me up. Nobody cares. And he says, no way, you know, you were in the law. And you want us to agree with you. And I says, we're not going to argue tonight.
Starting point is 00:41:51 Because it gets us no way. It doesn't. You're trying about that. I said, we're not going. And she kept her system and we carried about her and, you know, and I didn't back up with Terry and Todd. Terry quit. I said, Dee, what happened?
Starting point is 00:42:05 I mean, it's not just celebrating. And she did bring up, oh, let's just celebrate it. And I said, Dee, it's not the more decision to sell everything. This is a power business. This conversation has never came up until she says a soccer game. And she got to fall now on the phone. And she calls me and says, just out of blue, I'm telling all the tough that she's on his hands. I never talked about anything to keep in the
Starting point is 00:42:29 so then it was and then I got to come in and I got asked her because I know she didn't eat anything and said you want me to make you something to eat and I said I'll make you some of the eat she didn't want her thing she didn't want her thing because I wanted to talk about Terry and how I don't back her up
Starting point is 00:42:51 right and she started getting her migraine she took medication and she started to calm down and say that over the floor, it's not over her back. And then she says, I'm hungry. So I ate some ate some of the toes. I said, don't she eat?
Starting point is 00:43:06 I said, wait down on her back and start getting you calm down. And she didn't walk to, then she finally laid down her over her back. And that's when she finally started to calm her out. And she started to go sweeping. I helped her get out of the couch. And she was sleeping and good and her. And I'm thinking that's like midnight at 1 o'clock. And then I went to gotten better.
Starting point is 00:43:25 I got up roughly around 6 o'clock. I never heard nothing online, so I figured she'd sleeped the dog farm market. I just went away. Dale then talked about how he left through the back sliding glass door, but he said he came back into the house because he forgot something. And then after leaving a second time, he said he went to one of the barns to start his work for the day. And he was actually seen by the farm security cameras, driving his JCB moving liquid fertilizer. What was strange, though, was Dale said he drove the JCB back to the house again because of something else he forgot, which would, in theory, explain why his tractor tires were found out by that back door. And I know this is complicated, but stick with me. Okay? So he ends up telling detectives that he went back inside the house and when he did, Dee was still asleep on the couch and she remained sleeping when he left for the final time. And then after that, he was still asleep on the couch. And then after that, he was still asleep on the couch. And then after that, he was still asleep on the couch. And then, He took his JCB back to one of the barns and swapped it out for another tractor,
Starting point is 00:44:30 all of which he said was completed by 7.30 a.m. And by 8 a.m., Dale said that he got into the sprayer, which is yet another tractor for those who don't know, and he went to spray a neighboring field down the road. He returned once to fill up the sprayer, and then he was back out there for another few hours. Now, if you remember, Raquel had shown up for breakfast that morning, around 9.30 a.m. So by that point, Dale was already gone. Now, I won't go through that whole saga again, but he was outspraying when he got the call from Stephanie that Dee was missing. And we all know how the rest of that morning went, right? And according to Dale's recollection in that second interview, he had tried to reach her that morning. He said he texted her a few times while he was out and about
Starting point is 00:45:16 and just assumed that she was still sleeping. 7.45, I texted her. That was when I loaded up and was heading out of the second. I'm going to be She ran you call you later. That's the 7.45. And she didn't answer. So I figured you're still sleeping. Then I went over to Brooks Road. I sprayed off a 65 acres there.
Starting point is 00:45:35 Can you remember. Fowler. When I finished, did that feel like polymers? And I said, are you up yet? Is your migraine better? I didn't hear you think back. You don't know if you must be still sweet. That's when Stephanie called me.
Starting point is 00:45:48 He said, what's going on with me? After going through the timeline of that day, detectives pushed a little more about this fight they got into, but Dale just continued to downplay it. And what I find most interesting here is he coincidentally just never mentioned the part where Dee had asked him for a divorce. So how would you rate that night as far as you've been married 20-some years? You've gotten plenty of fights, I'm sure. I still, the 10 being the worst fight you've ever had, he was not. Five.
Starting point is 00:46:21 Okay. I mean, she was upset, but it wasn't, that's what weird. It wasn't, like, the worst part we'd ever had. It's like, it just a mediocre. It was over a freaking employee. Right. And she's like, I'm going to see everything. I'm like, no, me.
Starting point is 00:46:36 Now, I would be here forever if we went through this footage play by play, and honestly, most of it is quite, you know, irrelevant. But I think you guys see the point I'm trying to make. Dale was clearly withholding the truth, but there was no evidence to call him out on. He just kept saying the same story that Dee must have left on purpose because all of her personal belongings were gone. And with that, the search for her continued. For weeks and then months, the Leno Way County Sheriff's Office was handling the investigation, but there were times they called upon other agencies for help. For example, in October of 2021, there was a massive search
Starting point is 00:47:16 effort conducted on the munger property. The FBI and Michigan State Police were called in to assist, and they brought with them cadaver dogs and ground penetrating radar. And there was definitely a lot of hope associated with these efforts, but unfortunately, nothing of value was found. Greg said that there was a burn site nearby that was of interest to him, but nothing was found there either. And I just want to take a quick moment here to send a big shout out to Greg, because he is just incredible. He worked so, so hard not to just physically look for his sister, but to keep her case active, to keep up awareness and just made it clear that they were never going to give up on her. And he would organize really large-scale searches, and he and Shelley were the ones who brought in
Starting point is 00:48:05 this guy named Billy Little to help push Dee's case forward. Now, Billy seems awesome, just from the interviews I've seen with him. And this was really cool to learn. There was one night where Shelley was watching Dateline and Billy Little, who's a private investigator and attorney, was featured on that episode. And he had talked about how criminals shouldn't be able to get away with murder just because a body hasn't been found. And since Dee's body hadn't been found, there was an understandable amount of frustration within the family that not enough was being done to go after the person who killed her. So Shelley showed this episode to Greg, and he was like, oh yeah, absolutely, we need this guy. And by this point, Greg was very,
Starting point is 00:48:46 very, very convinced that Dale had killed his sister. So he was going to stop at nothing to try and bring her justice and bring Dale down. He even confronted Dale a few times and asked him what he thought of the investigation so far. And not surprisingly, Dale said that he thought the investigators were doing a good job, probably because they hadn't caught in yet. Greg wanted him to sweat, though. So he actually called him a liar and he told him that they were going to get. him. And with Billy Little's help, they were getting closer. He joined the effort in March of 22, and after a thorough investigation of his own, he came to the conclusion that Dee truly intended to divorce Dale and that she was serious about selling the trucking company, which is a motive,
Starting point is 00:49:33 if I've ever heard one. And then listen to this, okay? When Billy started going through Dale and Dee's finances, he realized that Dale created a new company under a name that was suspiciously similar to the trucking company's name. He created DDW transportation, and the existing company was DDW investments. Then, a few months later, after she disappeared, Dale started moving assets from the existing business to the new one. In order to do this, though, what would he have needed? D's signature, right? And guess what? He totally forged it. I mean, think about it. If D. sold the trucking company, all that money would go away. And the trucking company was the only company that was making a massive profit. So if he moved all the assets into his own name, he could continue running it
Starting point is 00:50:26 without her. And it was later learned that he forged her name on other things too, including a $1.4 million loan through that same company. So Mr. Dale is a giant piece of shit, which we already knew, right. But law enforcement at this point was pretty much saying that without a body, there likely wouldn't be an arrest, which was very, very difficult for her family to accept. But with the help of Billy Little, Dee's family turned up the pressure. They started a Justice for Dee social media campaign. They held rallies and vigils to help keep her name in the news. And they even put up a billboard that said, Help Dale Find D. Billy and Greg even held a press conference. And, in May of 2022 to present the evidence that they say proved that Dale was involved in her
Starting point is 00:51:17 disappearance. And it was clear that they were not going to stop until justice was served. And I don't know if this was a reaction to their efforts. I imagine it was. But in August of 2022, the Michigan state police took over the case. And they, of course, just had far more resources than the local police department did. And those resources were immediately put into action. In December of that same year, Dale was interviewed for a third time, and this time investigators were finally able to call him out on his bullshit. After suggesting that Dee's own children were the ones who were acting strange on the morning of her disappearance, Dale's entire story of what supposedly happened that morning was called into question, specifically as it related to that damn JCB tractor. And as we know, Dale admitted to driving it to the back of the house on the morning of the 25th because he said he had forgotten something inside, which based on his own timeline was around 7.30 a.m. And according to Dale, Dee was asleep on the couch when this took place, right? But you guys, think about it. In order for him to even have been able to park that tractor in that spot, that would mean that D's Hummer would have.
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Starting point is 00:54:53 took her wedding ring off, put it on his desk, and then vanished. But of course, when you think about it, that directly contradicts his own statement that Dee was asleep on the couch when he came inside looking for whatever it was that he forgot. Which, by the way, the reason that I'm saying the thing that he forgot, I mean, you would hope that there would be an actual account of what it was. The reason it still just referred to as the thing is because he has changed what it was multiple times across multiple different stories. But anyway, she could not have been asleep all morning and also have moved the Hummer before he drove the tractor right up to that back door. Doesn't add up? Also, if you remember, Raquel said that at
Starting point is 00:55:39 some point that morning the Hummer was moved back to its original spot, and D was already gone by that point. And on top of all of that weirdness, the Farm's security cameras never captured the driver of the Hummer. And that's strange, because if the car had taken the most direct route from the house to that building, a camera would have captured that. And instead, investigators came to believe that whoever drove it took the long way, which would have avoided the cameras. And then another wild discovery by investigators was the fact that Dale tried logging into the security camera system that morning to check the footage before 9 a.m. In this third interview, he admitted that he checked the cameras in order to try and find
Starting point is 00:56:30 his wife, but you guys, he didn't get the call from Stephanie that Dee was missing until 1032am. He also used an app on his phone to access her Cadillac that morning, which he denied in the interview, but of course, data doesn't lie. And this matters because everyone says that Dee always kept her purse locked in that car. So investigators believed that he accessed it to get her purse in order to hide it and make it seem like she left on purpose. Now, this whole interview was basically just Dale trying to double down on what he had been saying, but it was obvious now more than ever. that he was lying. Still, though, no arrest was made. And Dee's family, understandably, was so upset by this point that they'd started the process of filing a wrongful death suit against him. That way they could at least get justice in some way. In order to do that, though, they would
Starting point is 00:57:25 have to get Dee declared legally dead, which wasn't something that happened very quickly. And her brother Greg had also petitioned the court to appoint a conservator to protect her business interests because, as we know, Dale was doing some shady stuff with that as well. And get this. In September of 2023, he was arrested after being found in contempt of court and sentenced to 93 days in jail as a result. Dale Warner, the husband of missing Lenovoie County woman, D. Warner, is behind bars again tonight after being found in contempt of court criminally. Christy Gourlette was in Adrian today and joins us now live in studio.
Starting point is 00:58:08 Christy, there were several matters the judge heard regarding the Warner case today. Yes, there was. The first one was something that we've been reporting about for some time on whether Judge Catherine Sala would declare Deanne Warner officially dead. Take a look at this video from inside the courtroom earlier today. Judge Sala found Dale Warner in contempt of court stating he intentionally and deliberately sold his wife's assets after being instructed by the court not to. She marked several examples of Dale's contempt, the most egregious being the selling of Dee's trucking company,
Starting point is 00:58:43 which was the most profitable portion of her estate. Now, obviously, this was a little victory for Dee's family, but it wasn't the arrest that they were really looking for. Thankfully, though, that was just around the corner because on November 21, 2023, Dale Warner was finally arrested and charged with Dee's murder, as well as tampering with evidence. He was arraim the following day and given a whopping $20 million bond,
Starting point is 00:59:11 which secured his nasty ass behind bars. An emotional day for D.N. Warner's family. My sister was a gregarious person. Sorry, but it's hard to talk about. Her brother Greg Hardy pushing law enforcement the last two and a half years for a development like the one we're seeing today. This isn't a matter of the people versus D.L. Warner. Deanne's husband, Dale Warner, facing Lanoaway County District Judge Laura Shadler, for the first time since being arrested in connection with her disappearance and murder.
Starting point is 00:59:44 Mr. Warner does enter a plea not guilty to both counts. And with bonds set at $20 million, $15 million for the murder charge, $5 million for tampering with evidence. Dee's nephew Parker Hardy quoting her response. Mr. Warner is just fine where he's at. And that was about as good as she could say it. right there. Dee's son Zach Bach still in shock with the recent developments. I still kind of feel like I'm in a bit of a dream. Like I can't really believe that it's happening right now. He says he's mostly looking forward to a guardianship hearing over Dee and
Starting point is 01:00:17 Dale Warner's daughter who is still a minor. It's been two years since I've been able to see my sister. Still a long road ahead for this family hearings, trial, reliving tragedy over and over. But they're hopeful for a conviction. One step closer to closure. And I cannot imagine what this felt like for their family. For Dale to have been arrested after all that time, it had to have felt so good. And even though Dee's body still hadn't been found, with all of the evidence against him, state prosecutors were confident in their ability to secure a guilty conviction. In order to get that, though, a preliminary hearing was required so a judge could say,
Starting point is 01:01:00 or certain whether or not the evidence they had was enough to move forward with the trial. And let me tell you, the testimony from that hearing alone was all the evidence that I personally needed to know that Dale is a guilty sack of shit. Just this comment alone from Raquel tells me everything I need to know. Did she make any other statement to you during that conversation that would indicate any fear on her part? One of the last things that my mom said to me was I watched Dateline like every night and he could do something like that to me. And what did she mean? What did you take that to me? He could do something like that to me. Objection speculation. If you know. Make her disappear.
Starting point is 01:01:47 There is just something so chilling, so disturbing about the fact that Dee knew what Dale was capable of. And she said that only hours before he took her life. It is. just heartbreaking truly. It was definitely powerful, as was all of the testimony that came from that hearing. The judge heard from her family members regarding her troubled marriage and also from investigators regarding the evidence collected, and ultimately it was ruled that there was enough evidence to move forward with a trial. And even better news than that, although bittersweet, I should say, is that they wouldn't have to go through that trial to prove Dee's death. without a body. And that's because on August 18th, 2024, Dee's remains were found. And the story
Starting point is 01:02:37 of how they discovered her remains is absolutely insane. Now, the details go back to just a few days after Dee was reported missing. And it was her nephew Parker, who first made the mental note that something he had seen didn't seem right. Right after she disappeared, Parker, who is Greg and Shelley's son, was on the munger property. And it was sort of late at night, and he ran into Dale, who appeared to be painting this old fertilizer tank. Take a listen. When I pulled in to get fertilizer in this special fertilizer shit, it has all these pumps and everything in it, he had this rusty and hydras tank sitting on the ground, and I kind of chuckled.
Starting point is 01:03:18 Normally they have what's called a running gear under him, which is the wheels. But this was just the tank sitting on the ground. And I kind of chuckled. I said, what, Dale, what the heck are you doing with that tank? it looks like it's I said somebody have an accident we've had them the bolts break and they roll off the cart if somebody turns too sharp and I thought it rolled off the cart
Starting point is 01:03:36 ended up in a pond or something people left it and he said oh he said that rusty thing he said I told the guys that I haven't been able to sleep at night and I would bring a few of these rusty tanks and I would paint them at night when I couldn't sleep down here in this fertilizer bar no cameras no nothing
Starting point is 01:03:54 he said but I didn't mean that rusty tank He said I meant one of the ones on wheels that just had a little bit of rust. That anhydrous is very corrosive so it will rust the outside of the tank and every so many years you paint the tanks just lather some white paint out. And so that's what he said he was doing.
Starting point is 01:04:11 And I thought it seems kind of strange to me. Especially the rusty tank. I never seen it before laying around just kind of appeared out of nowhere. I didn't think much of it. In the back of my head it was just very weird but I drove out of there and kept working. My dad goes down the next day
Starting point is 01:04:25 and he's got that tank that he said he wasn't going to paint. It's still sitting there half painted now. And like you heard, he didn't think all that much of this interaction. However, there were a few things that stood out to him as strange. For starters, this tank was in the spray barn, which I'm not an expert on farming, so this will probably make sense to some of you out there. But I guess this wouldn't normally be where you would store a tank if they were being
Starting point is 01:04:52 worked on. And like he said, it was very rusty. And this is the kind of tank from my understanding that you would just get rid of, not the kind that could be revived with a fresh coat of paint. So the fact that Dale even painted it was weird to him. And both of his parents agreed. And in those early days, Greg and Shelley even talked about the possibility that Dee's body could be in there. But it just seemed too far-fetched to them. In order to get her in there, Dale would have had to have opened the tank, put her in there, and then he would have had to re-reliven.
Starting point is 01:05:27 weld it shut. And apparently, Dale wasn't a very good welder. So they kind of just let this fall into the back of their minds. Now, to be clear, they did tell the police about the tank and why they thought Dale's behavior was strange, but for reasons we'll never know, no follow-up was ever done on it. And that's why it ultimately took years for the discovery to be made. And another huge shout out to Greg here because he ended up bringing this back to their attention. In August of 2024, he had sort of just been going through everything in his mind once again. And after the Michigan State Police shared some evidence with him, it reminded him about what he and Parker had seen. Greg says he remembers seeing Dale the day after the painted tank ordeal. And he said that
Starting point is 01:06:17 Dale looked like he hadn't slept all night. Dale had even told him that he would weirdly enough paint those tanks whenever he couldn't sleep at night. This dude is unbelievable. Who would believe that? Like, oh, I can't fall asleep. Let me go out and paint the tanks. But anyway, Greg also knew that the cadaver dogs never searched the fertilizer barn in those early days because Dale, of course, had once made a comment that his dog died from being exposed to the chemicals. He basically said that his dog had walked around in there and the chemicals had absorbed and the dog had died because of it. So long story short, Greg tells investigators about what he and Parker witnessed, and that kicked off an all-new search effort. Investigators say they were specifically looking for anhydrous tanks that appeared to have a fresh coat of paint.
Starting point is 01:07:09 And basically a non-factory well just looks sloppier than a factory weld would. And that is exactly what they found in a barn on Paragon, road, a property owned by Dale, a few miles down the street from the Munger residence. The tank also had a sign on it that said bad dip tube do not use. And at first, the fear was that cutting the tank open would release harmful gases. So they actually took it to be x-rayed at, weirdly enough, a Canadian truck stop. I guess this was the nearest place they could think of to have something as big as a tank x-rayed. So when they did this, it revealed a tragic. discovery and I'm about to share that with you.
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Starting point is 01:10:38 The medical examiner says that she died of strangulation and that she also had blunt force trauma to her face and her head. And do you want to know that evidence I mentioned earlier that investigators shared with the restgulation? Greg that jogged his memory, it turns out that security cameras on the property captured Dale moving welding equipment into the spray barn not long after Dee went missing. And what's super freaky about this too is they believe she likely hadn't been put into the tank until a few days after she died. So she was somewhere on the property when friends and family were looking for her and we don't know where. They think it's possible that she had been kept in a safe, but not totally sure on that.
Starting point is 01:11:26 And I'm sure a lot of you will be able to guess how they believe he moved her body, that fucking J-C-B tractor. That was the reason for those tire tracks. They don't think he forgot something inside. They think that he drove right up to those sliding glass doors and put her body in the bucket of the tractor and then transported it somewhere else until he eventually moved her to the tank. And they're pretty sure they have a video of him doing it. When investigators were going back over all that body cam and drone footage from those first few days, they realized that they had captured footage of Dale on Tuesday the 27th using a tractor to move a white anhydrous tank toward the spray barn.
Starting point is 01:12:12 There was also body cam footage from that same day, and they're pretty sure the tank her body was found in could be seen on video. So he was literally moving evidence right under their noses. And on top of that, body cam footage from Dale's second interview showed that he had a pretty significant sunburn on his arms. Now, mind you, this is April. And if you've ever been to Michigan, in April, the UV is not going that hard, right? But I didn't know this. I guess welding, if you don't use proper protection, can actually give you a sunburn. And it makes sense, right? And not only that, you guys, Dale's fingerprint was also found on the ammonia sticker on the tank she was found in. But I don't think you need any more convincing at this point.
Starting point is 01:12:57 It's pretty obvious what he did. And since I'm already going over a lot of evidence here, we may as well go ahead and jump into the trial, which began very recently in February of 26. This is D. Warren. April 24, 2021. She went home to tell her husband. defendant. If the marriage was over, they were selling their businesses, and they were through. She was never seen or heard from again. August 17, 2024, over three years later, she was found in anhydrous ammonia, fertilizer tank. The medical examiner examined her body. She'd been strangled.
Starting point is 01:13:41 She had blunt force trauma to her face and head. Her face and neck were wrapped in ductase. She was in her pajamas, wrapped in a tart, welded into a tent. In the rest of that opening statement, the prosecuting attorney did a really good job of laying out all the facts of this case. And the fact of the matter is, Dale and Dee had a very troubled marriage. I'm going to talk a little bit about Dee and Dale's relationship, which the witnesses will testify was never been. Constant verbal disagreement. Over text, face-to-face, a pattern of. stalking by Dale towards Dee. She, D, her main car was a Cadillac escalate, comes with
Starting point is 01:14:24 OnStar. So you can go on your phone and you can find out where the car is. Well, you'll hear from the person from OnStar. They were able to pull up their records how many times that Dale tracked D over the period from January of 2020 through April of 2021 and it was over 2,000 times that he tried to get her or did find her location. It's over four times a day. She also drove a Hummer occasionally. That was also GM product, but didn't come with OnStar. His then-son-in-law, Brian Bush, will testify that he wanted a tracker in the Hummer too. And so he had Brian, he, Dale, had Brian by off Amazon, a tracker that could be installed in the Hummer. They had their, they had an IT person for the farm. Kyle Wagner will testify.
Starting point is 01:15:12 D was scheduled for a medical procedure. Dale approaches him and says, can you clone D's phone for me? Basically download everything that's on there, all her text, all her phone calls. And Kyle says, no, I'm not going to, I'm not going to do that. I'm going to violate her trust. The last thing he did with Brian was to try to set up cameras in the living space
Starting point is 01:15:35 so he could monitor D in the home. And that only scratches the surface of Dale's efforts to try and control and track his wife. He was clearly a jealous, very unhappy person. And more importantly, rather than risk losing millions of dollars from the trucking business, the prosecution argued that he murdered D and put her body in the tank to try and conceal his crimes. Now, the defense, on the other hand, argued that the state's theory was purely based on
Starting point is 01:16:06 speculation, assumption, and innuendo, and that they had no physical evidence to support their theory. And yes, the state's evidence was largely circumstantial, but based on what I've already told you so far, it was as good as circumstantial gets. And every person that testified really solidified the facts of this case as I've already been presenting them to you. And I believe it was easy to see that nobody other than Dale had the motive, means, and of course the opportunity to commit this crime. At the end of the day, Dee was planning on leaving his sorry ass. And with that she would be cutting off his supply of money, and he was the only one there that night who could have possibly made her disappear. And this was separate from the trial, but his son Jaron was actually
Starting point is 01:16:54 arrested in March of 2025 and charged with tampering with evidence and being an accessory after the fact in D's murder. But those charges were later dropped when prosecutors couldn't locate a witness that they needed to support their case. They can refile those charges at any time, though, and I hope they do. And there also was a jailhouse call where the two of them appeared to be talking about the tank being x-rayed, which is why they thought he was involved. But I guess not anymore. I don't really know what's going on with that. But obviously, that's a huge piece of information to just drop on you. But unfortunately, nothing has come of it. And there's not much more to say. But going back to the trial with the caveat of Jaron possibly being involved, Dale was the sole focus.
Starting point is 01:17:37 And I'm not going to make you sit through all the evidence and testimony since, you know, gone over it throughout this episode, but there are a few more things that came up that I think are worth mentioning, including the fact that in May of 2021, Dale, like the blockhead he is, search the internet for, what to do with a thousand gallon propane tank, chemical cremation. What is liquid cremation and why is it illegal? Widower's dating site. Ten widow dating sites. Widower dating page. Fucking moron. And not only that, he also apparently forgot to to remove his Apple watch that night, which revealed he had a higher heart rate than usual. Can't imagine why.
Starting point is 01:18:17 And there was some shady shit that he had asked his IT guy to do, only a day after D went missing. And just to be clear, not shady on the IT guy's part, but on Dale's part. Take a listen to that. Did Dale contact you regarding the IT system? Yes. Okay. I received a phone call early in the morning. It probably was between 8 and 8.30.
Starting point is 01:18:38 He requested that we meet. And what are the things that he wanted you to do? He wanted the cameras put back on his phone. So the milestone server allows you to be able to access it through the milestone app that can be installed on your smartphone. And I needed to update some settings within his phone so that way he could be able to view the footage. Okay, so the surveillance, that's referring to. too as milestone. Correct. Could you view the surveillance footage from the office? Yes. How so? You could access it from the computer that was at the reception desk.
Starting point is 01:19:21 All right. And then tell us about the phone. You said that he wanted to update it on his phone. He wanted to be able to view, to be able to access the cameras from his phone. What else did he ask you to do when you met with him? He wanted access to the camera server taken away from some of the other people that had it. Okay. And so who was left with access to the server access? I believe it was Parker Hardy and Zach Bach. So they were removed or they were left? Oh, they were removed. Sorry. Okay. And so who was left with access at that point? At that point, it just would have been Dale. And then, of course, there were days worth of testimony related to Dee and Dale's relationship, the fight that transpired between them and how Dale could be connected.
Starting point is 01:20:08 back to the tank her body was found in. You know, stuff you've already heard me talk about. Now, as for the defense's case, they called into question much of the state's claims, of course. And one thing that his attorney really argued was that Dale's fingerprint being on the tank wasn't that strange because this was his farm after all. So it wouldn't be unusual for his DNA to be anywhere. She also argued that none of the footage of Dale moving the tank during investigator's search proved he was moving the tank she was in. According to her, it could have been any tank. And ultimately, she said that Dale simply didn't have the time to do everything the state was accusing him of. But in the end, the jury found him guilty. In the end, Dale Warner was found guilty of second-degree murder,
Starting point is 01:20:55 tampering with evidence, and was sentenced to 70 years in prison. Now, he is eligible for parole, but not until he's 91 years old. And I hope he, maybe I shouldn't say what I was about to say. I'm sure you guys could guess, But anyway. But one thing I really want to highlight here is that D's case is really such a reminder of the importance of family advocacy. I can't say whether or not investigators would have given up, you know, trying to get justice for D. But I know for a fact that their family pushing so hard was a big reason that things moved forward the way that they did. And who knows if she would have gotten justice without them doing everything. thing they did. No part of the last several years for them has been easy. I am grateful, though, that they were finally able to lay Dee to rest properly. After her remains were found, they had a proper burial for her, and they were able to say goodbye to her officially. And her headstone reads, Deanne, of course, without the Warner. And with Lena being so young, I can only imagine how hard
Starting point is 01:22:01 this has been on her, knowing that her dad was the one that killed her mom. I'm sure it's very hard for her to even understand everything that's happened and what's going on now. But as she gets older, I'm sure she will put more and more pieces together and family will clue her in and that's going to be very, very tough if she doesn't already know those things. And I've been trying to figure out whose custody she's currently in, you know, obviously I'm concerned for her. And I believe she's in Jaron's custody of all people. I guess Dale had signed custody over to him before his arrest. And I believe there's been a custody dispute over her ever since, and I can see why. I just hope that she ends up in the best hands possible and that their family can all be at peace about where she ends up.
Starting point is 01:22:47 Very tough situation. And also quick note, speaking of disputes, the $100 million wrongful death lawsuit is still in the works, but Dale's conviction will definitely help their case. And I will be sure to pin a comment or put an update in the show notes of this episode if you're listening on Spotify or Apple when updates come on that as well. And I really, really hope they win that lawsuit. Just an absolutely wild case though, right? I mean, Dale truly could have gotten away with this and that is a very scary thought. But thankfully, Dee has an amazing family who would have never given up on her and their efforts truly paid off, which is really beautiful to see. Definitely want to hear your thoughts on this one, you guys. So let me know in the comments below.
Starting point is 01:23:35 That is going to be it for me this week. But of course, I'll be back next week to discuss another case. And until then, stay safe out there.

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