True Crime with Kendall Rae - Seizure or Murder: Is Sandra Melgar Guilty?

Episode Date: February 16, 2023

In 2012, Sandra Melgar was spending the night before her wedding anniversary with her husband, Jaime, when their dogs started barking somewhere in the house. Sandra says she had a seizure and doesn’t remember much else after that, but she was found the following day barricaded in her closet, bound on the floor. Her husband was found stabbed and beaten to death nearby. FREE Sandy:  https://www.freesandymelgar.com/produ... Shop my charity merch! https://milehighermerch.com/  All profits from this charity merch will be donated to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children: https://www.missingkids.org/  Donate to NCMEC: https://give.missingkids.org/campaign... This episode is sponsored by: PrettyLitter Check out Kendall's other podcasts: The Sesh & Mile Higher Follow Kendall! YouTube Twitter Instagram Facebook Mile Higher Zoo REQUESTS: General case suggestion form: https://bit.ly/32kwPly Form for people directly related/ close to the victim: https://bit.ly/3KqMZLj Discord: https://discord.com/invite/an4stY9BCN CONTACT: For Business Inquiries - [e-mail]

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So today I am doing another true crime video and this one is a very frustrating one. It is one that I think there is going to be really varying opinions out there about what happened and who is responsible. This is either one of the weirdest cases ever or it's a major misjustice to a victim's family. So today I'm going to be telling you about a couple out of Houston, Texas. Sandra Melgar or Sandy and then Jaime Melgar, also known as Jim. So Jim was born on August 10th, 1960 in Guatemala and when when he was around three years old, his family left Guatemala and came to America.

Jim was someone who was really smart, very smart actually, really well liked, was considered to be really funny and charming, and someone that people liked to be around. And when he was in high school, he met Sandra and the two of them started dating. They ended up getting married. They were high school sweethearts and they ended up forming a really amazing life together. They had a daughter named Liz. They were really supportive of each other.

They were really, really close and connected to each other. Definitely knew what was going on in each other's lives. Everyone who knew them said that they were like super loving towards each other. There are some couple really loving. Bob and Patsy Blurl were friends with the Mel Gars. Oh my God she made the best angry. One struggle that Sandy was dealing with however was chronic pain and illness. She had gone through several different hip surgeries which you know takes

a huge toll on your body. She also had hypothyroidism, lupus and epilepsy so she was constantly dealing with health struggles and it really held her back in a lot of ways. At one point, she ended up becoming paralyzed on one side of her body and so she had to go through a ton of treatment and rehab. However, even though it's very draining to be a caretaker, Jim really was there for Sandy during everything. He really understood what valing to be with her in sickness and in health meant. And he didn't mind taking care of her. He never complained. He was always willing to help in any way that he could. Their family said that in fact,

they actually became closer as her health got worse over time because he really loved taking care of her. And he never resented her a show to any sign of being annoyed with her for, you know, having these health issues. So let's fast forward to December of 2012. So it was December 23rd of 2012 and this was actually their 32nd wedding anniversary so they were celebrating. So first they went to dinner at

their favorite local Mexican restaurant and had a nice meal. After that they decided to stop at a CVS on the way home to get some drink mixers to make some cocktails back at home. They got home. It was really casual, they just started hanging out, making drinks, and they decided to take a soak in their tuk-oosie tub that they had in their bathroom and their master suite. So they were literally just chilling in the hot tub, relaxing on their anniversary,

maybe you know, having a little, a little love session. I mean, who knows what was going on in there, but they were having a nice time. She said they were really just talking and relaxing and soaking in their hot tub. But while they were sitting in the bathtub, their dog started barking outside. And Jim thought that was weird. So he got out of the bathtub to go see what was going on.

And after a while, he didn't come back. So Sandy actually decided to get out of the hot tub herself. She said she got out, walked to her closet, and sat down and just started applying leg lotion, like you do after you get out of a bath or something, and she was preparing to put clothes on, and that is the last thing that she remembers. You guys know I'm a big animal lover. I have 10 pets, and three of them are cats.

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Jim's brother Herman was going to be coming over with a couple other people in his family that day. They got to their house around 4.30 as they had planned and we're just knocking at the door. Knock on the door, no answer. At this point, we're thinking okay, we're getting ready, maybe they're not even up yet. The only thing that they could hear were the dogs barking. So they started looking around and Herman actually found out that one of the garage doors was open as well as one of the And herman actually found out that one of the garage doors was open, as well as one of the doors to the house was just unlocked and open.

So he decided to go in through the door and then went and let the rest of his family in through the front door. My dad's already in the living room. Come on, come sit down. Let's make ourselves at home. And we're like, no, no, no, no. This is just, that's something doesn't feel right.

And then it was at that point where we hear, there was just mumbling. It was just, and then it was finally we heard help, help. The family was walking through the house seeing if anyone was home and what was going on when all this and they heard someone screaming. They ran upstairs, hearing the screams and they went up to the master bedroom

where they found the closet door with a chair propped up underneath it so that you couldn't open it from the inside. The chair pushed the door. And someone was screaming on the other side of the closet door. He quickly moved the chair, opened the door, and he sees Sandy laying there tied up her arms

and her feet unable to move. So she tells him there are some scissors on the bathroom counter, just grab those, bring them in. So he does, he cuts her free. And when they did, they realized Sandra was laying in her own feces and urine. Now this is kind of confusing, but they have two different closets.

They have a master bedroom closet, and then they have a closet that's actually in the bathroom of the master. So that's where Sandy was, and then they get Sandy untied, get her up, and they start walking out into the master. And that's when they find Jim in the master bedroom closet and Jim had been brutally attacked, stabbed over 31 times. He had damaged to his skull, his brain.

It was a horrific scene and as soon as Sandy saw him, she went absolutely hysterical. Family members had to like pull her back. Can you imagine walking in on that what you would think? His legs were actually tied up using a telephone cord and then there was a rope around his chest. He had a bunch of defensive wounds on his hand. He obviously put up quite a fight at the end of his life, which is just terribly sad. So they called the police. The police came to the house and they are trying to figure out what the hell happened here. So there's obviously a very upset Sandy who has also just claimed to have had a horrible seizure

so she's in pain, she goes like she can barely move. They have Jim stabbed over 30 times in his bedroom closet on the floor and then the bathtub was still filled with water and there was strangely a white blouse floating in the bathtub and there was also a kitchen knife at the bottom of the bathtub which they there was also a kitchen knife at the bottom of the bathtub, which they think was used on gym.

The house totally looked like it had been broken into and ransacked. Dores were pulled out, there were stuff rummaged through, things thrown about the house. It was a total mess. Sandy's jewelry box was just wide open and there were some things missing from it. Jim's wallet and Sandy's purse were also emptied out

onto the bed, so whoever was there was looking for something to take. And in the closet that Jim was found in, there was a safe when they loaded gun in it. And there was some blood right around that area on the racks of the closet, right, where the safe was, and it was really close to where his head was. So they think that he was actually putting his hands up

which were covered in blood to try to open the safe to get the gun. So the police decide that the best place to start is with Sandy. I mean she was obviously with Jim all night. She was the closest to this experience. So they bring her in for questioning. And immediately police are already starting to think that there is no way that there was actually a home invasion. That this was a home invasion that was staged by Sandy in order to kill her husband for some reason and they wanted to find a motive. Any disagreement? We had a great lunch, I think I had two, I didn't think I finished the second. And you had to have three. You got one to go get ice and then came back and said he was going to put the dogs, put the dogs.

Move the dogs because they were barking too much. They'll sit there for a good solid two hours talking. Yeah. We got out and say he was moving the dogs to the office because they're too loud. And he just, you know, was taking a while so I got out and was going gonna get dressed. I thought I'm gonna have a look up. And I remember I woke up and I died as seizure because my muscles hurt in my head. It was just hearty or bad and usually I'm likely having trouble controlling my seizure. So a while later I woke up and realized I was tied up. I tried to flip over and then I kind of got stuck. Do you have pain? Do I have pain in my head. Here. Like what?

Like I got hit on the head. I don't know, like, fell or was pushed or what? But like all along side this side. So when you're in the Chakuzi, what are you wearing when you're in the Chakuzi? Nothing at all. And then who found you today? Uh, My sister-in-law, Carmen. What were you wearing when your sister-in-law found you? This.

Your old baby's like, when I wake up, I hear the dogs crying, actually. And then all of a sudden they started barking. and then that's when I heard their voices. Yeah, and where you at right this time? In the closet. But I was like up against the bottom of the door. And so I started yelling. Okay, the other one happened. They came in and I don't remember.

I think I saw him first. Her husband first, and he tried to untie it and he couldn't untie what? The ties in my hands and my feet. Okay, and how are you tied? Behind my back. Behind my back and my legs. I couldn't straighten them. Herb and shows up because of your G.E.L.A. Okay, let's see, do it at that point. When he finds you. He tries to tie me and he couldn't. So he gets right, he walks to C.G. in the closet,

walk right in? No, the chair was blocking it. There was a chair. I usually keep that chair inside my closet. How was it blocking it. There was a chair. I usually keep that chair in the side of the closet. How was it blocking the door? I don't know, but I just saw when you moved it, it like blocked the chair and then he, another chair when he, when he tried to open the door, the chair stopped and then he moved the chair and then opened the door.

And I was on the floor and I told him to please I'm tiny. I was the family members over there today. I was going to invite him for a lunch. Well, we're going to play in for the future. We're sitting in Jekuzi. What do you want to do in the future? We're going to move for the future. We are Shinjuku, do you want to do it in the future? It's been a bit of a trouble. We talked about trading my car and there's something to travel with. I'm going to be calling that area in this moment. I don't know what the color daughter is.

So what is your understanding? What does happen? What's happening? I'm trying to remember. I think we left CVS. There was a car following us because when we came within our neighborhood, it was still behind us. And he was really close. I did upset because he was driving slower than someone was still getting him. And I tell him, don't do that because, you know, it's dangerous.

But the guy turned left and we turned right. And so we thought it was just coincidence. Who else would be in the house? No one would have said that I know I've known. But we wouldn't have left the garage door open either. You were to close the garage door. I never used that side. I know how it looks.

But I was also that side. I know how it looks. But I was also tied up and there's... I couldn't... That's just... You said you hadn't had much to drink. You're coherent, right? So I mean, what are you hearing before you said that you blacked out? Nothing.

Nobody running, nobody saying anything, shouting. No, right after. Sometimes I can't even tell you my name. Okay, and let me ask you this. And I ask you before, you didn't answer my question. Why are we here? Do you know what has happened today? I don't think it was shot.

What do you understand? What do you understand has happened? Who told you that it was shot. What do you understand? What do you understand that's happened? Who told you that it was murdered? I saw it. You did? Yes. When it entied me, I heard hysterical screaming and I ran over there and I checked his pulse. Okay.

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So I can definitely understand how if you have epilepsy and you have a seizure, you would black out and wouldn't know what was going on. Sandy said that when she woke up, she was in so much pain from her seizure that she literally couldn't move. She's pretty sure that she was hitting the head, which knocked her out and triggered a seizure. But police insisted that it was too convenient for her to have just blacked out while

her husband is being murdered in the other room. So after interrogating her and pretty much breaking her down, the police asked her if she wanted to do a polygraph test. Many of you probably know polygraph tests are often wrong. They can really not be taken seriously as real evidence because they're so often wrong, it's insane. Things like stress and trauma can change the results. And so she decided not to do the polygraph test. She said she was on her way too much stress from the police, from the incident that she just went through from being tied up, having a seizure, all these things losing her husband. So she flat out said, I don't want to do the polygraph test. Now, oftentimes, police will take a person deciding not to take the polygraph test as an automatic like admission of guilt,

and they really start honing in on that person. The police ended up not having any solid evidence that Sandy was to blame here so they ended up letting her go and she was not considered a suspect. For the next year and half the case remained open, they were trying to work on it but there were no serious leads or anything and meanwhile Sandy was at home trying to recover, trying to heal with her family and make sense of what had happened to them. And just when the family is starting to think that it's kind of all put to rest, they ended up finding out that there was a grand jury indictment for Sandy Melger, for the murder of her husband Jim Melger.

They put out a warrant for her arrest, so the family decided that the best thing to do was to have Sandy contact her lawyer and turn herself in. So that's what she did. She was charged, but was released on bail for the next three years while they got the trial together. Finally, in 2017, it was time for the trial to start. So during her trial, prosecutors ended up arguing

that Sandy actually wasn't really in love with Jim, that they had this fake loving relationship and everyone knew them as this great couple, but it was all of the sod because she actually wanted a divorce. One thing to know here is Sandy and Jim were Jehovah's Witnesses, which is very serious. I don't know too much about it to be honest, but they take things like marriage very seriously. So prosecutors started making arguments that maybe she wanted a divorce, but she didn't want to deal with the shame that would come with that from her religion. So she decided to just stage his death.

Sandy completely denied this, said that she had no intention of wanting a divorce. In fact, they were celebrating their wedding anniversary that night. The prosecutors also argued that Sandy had somehow convinced Jim to tie his own feet up with the telephone cord as some type of sexual game. And they made their case that after this, Sandy gets up, goes down to the kitchen, gets a knife, and just goes upstairs and starts absolutely whaling on her husband.

And they said that all of the stuff that made it seem like a home invasion were completely set up by Sandy that she pulled out all the drawers and ransacked the house and even hid belongings of hers. They said when they first looked at the scene that there were a few red flags right away. For example, the scene of the house is really weird. I mean, I will say it to there are some things that you would think someone would have taken. Like for example, there were drawers open that hadn't been emptied. One of them had a camera in it. There were pieces of jewelry that they could have taken that weren't taken.

It was like only certain things, but there were bikes in their garage. There were prescription medications that someone might want to steal. I mean, she had a lot of medication. That's something that's often taken in a home in a patient. There were still TVs. There were all these different things. Like if someone's going to break in and kill someone, wouldn't they want to make it worth it and, you know, steal everything that they can?

So that was really weird. However, they did notice that there are plugs where there used to be a TV, like plugged in and the TV was missing, for example, or radio. So it was kind of mixed. There definitely were some things taken. It just was strange that not every single thing that could be taken was taken. But this definitely, you know, leaves some room in the jury for reasonable doubt. Could this have been staged?

But that night, deputies made this video showing how Sandra could have staged the crime scene to look like a home invasion, pulling the chair against the door from inside the closet. But there was no side man that she had. There was no life insurance policy. There was really no reason for her to want to kill her husband on their anniversary like that. Another thing was, Sandy was completely clean when they found her, not any blood on her hands or anything.

There was no signs of blood in the sinks, in the bathtub. Also, she had absolutely no defense wounds, like she didn't even have a broken nail or a scratch on her, like if she was really fighting with Jim at the end of his life, he had clear marks where he was fighting back,

but she didn't have anything. One thing that the defense argued is that there was random DNA for a male and a female, both unknown in different parts of the house. Now, if you remember, there was a female's blouse found in the hot tub as well. One thing that was kind of sketchy though is prosecutors were able to pull Sandy's recent

medical records in the last couple of years and basically whenever doctors had asked her if she was having seizures, she would say no. During the trial, the prosecution had acquired all the medical records and showed, and just listed the dates up there and everything else. For doctors' visits, no seizure, no seizure, no seizure, getting better, you know, that kind of stuff.

And prosecutors actually argued that even though she was tied up in everything, Sandy was able to prop that chair up and lock herself in the closet. They basically argued that she would have been able to tie herself up and stage the entire thing. However, Jim's brother, the one who found them, believes that Sandy is innocent,

and he said that when he found her, her arms were tied up like this. You know, tied around her four arms, not just her hands. So it would be like nearly impossible to do that type of tie on yourself. Another thing that they used in trial was this chair, this dining room chair that was mysteriously in their bedroom. They argued that Sandy actually brought the chair

into the bedroom and made Jim sit on it as some type of like Sexual activity pretended that she was gonna give him a massage and then killed him But if you actually look at the photos from the crime scene you can see that there's a little mark where the chair was sitting Indicating that that chair had been there a long time And we actually found out that they used the chair so that their pulmarinean could get up and down from the bed. So I mean, any pet owner understands something like that. So the chair was always there, and that bit of evidence is really weak.

None of Sandra's blood or DNA was found on Jim. I don't know. I don't know why there wasn't any DNA found. I do know that if there had been DNA found on his body that came back to Sandra, it would have been explained by the sheer fact that they were married. But there was unidentified male and female DNA found in the house. You also argue during the trial that there was a potential suspect that police pretty much

blew off. There was a guy living down the street who had been convicted of a few crimes and had actually just been released from jail a few nights before. And all police did for this man was bring a business card and put it in his door. And they never heard back from him. So case closed on that guy, I guess. Closing arguments have just wrapped up in the case against a woman accused of murdering her husband and then trying to cover it up. You've got some of the photos. You saw all the wounds that he had, the 13 stab wounds, all the other wounds that he had in his body and his head. Certainly that person intended to kill him,

but that person certainly intended to cause serious poly injury, which resulted in death. We've proven all of those things. In the Sandra Melgar case, there's no physical evidence in this case that points to her at all. She makes a strike straight up all the way to his neck. That's what that first strike is. Jamie, of course, gets up to try and defend himself, turns around, and that's when she gets him on the, on the thumb. The defense criticizing Shoddy detective work and saying the evidence is just not there.

Look at what remains. No broken nails. No problems with the hands. No bruising here where you would expect it if knife was used. We are on verdict watch in the case against 57 year old

Sandra Melgar. The jury started deliberating yesterday evening. Continue to deliberate this morning. And in fact, just moments ago took a break. We'll have to see what the jury decides and we'll let you know when a verdict is handed down. But after 11 days of trial,

where most people thought there was no way that Sandy was going to be guilty for this, it was finally time for the jury to deliberate. It took the jury two days to reach a verdict. At first they were really split down the middle but over time they ended up going one way and that's when they found Sandra Melger guilty of

murdering Jim Melger and sentenced her to 27 years. And we figured that at that point she would be in her early 70s and maybe have a chance to see her grandchildren at that point. So, it was a humane decision, frankly. Do we think this woman's a threat to society? None of us thought that.

Prosecutors testimony, right? It all made sense. Now, was it absolutely provable? No, but it's the only thing that made sense. Sandra told us just because her seizure condition was stable, didn't mean she wasn't experiencing symptoms. I believe that for one thing people don't realize what it what a seizure is or what it feels like to go into the seizure and then when you come out of a grandma seizure you know you don't remember a lot

of stuff. But the things you were hearing from Sandra the jury never did she never took the stand to testify. Both Sandy and Jim's family are completely shocked. There's really no one in their families that thinks that Sandy actually did this. I mean, really no one was expecting this. You two are the only people that saw Sandra tied up. Is there any way in your mind?

She could have done that herself. No, no. There's just no way that she could have done that to him. I've lost my father and here I am about to lose my mother. Supposed to be the justice system that it's just completely broken. They believe that they didn't get a fair trial. They were using evidence that wasn't even there. And their whole family has just been left absolutely shocked by this.

Just not even knowing what to do. They got it wrong. But yeah, they got it completely wrong. I had a lump on my head, so I was hit. And then I went into the seizure more than likely. I mean, no one was there to actually see it, but that's how it felt like when I woke up. Sandra, did you kill your husband?

No, I did not kill my husband. No. And you have grandkids? And my grandbabies, yeah. You're missing her, don't you? I know. I know that really hurts me. I miss them so much.

I mean, I'm just gonna keep fighting this until I'm out of here. Since then, there hasn't been too much going on. Sandy is in the process of appealing the verdict. The family is trying to raise funding for trying to figure out who actually did this and solve it themselves so that they can free her. There's been one big piece of evidence

that they feel could possibly lead somewhere and that is that that blouse that was found in the bathtub is actually a specific type of blouse that can only be found at Costco stores, meaning that whoever did this was probably a Costco customer. I'm going to link the fundraising effort so you guys can donate if you feel that this is a misjustice because I really do.

I have to really insert my opinion on this. I think it's insane that she got convicted. I really did not expect this. I mean, I'm not saying that 100,000% there's no way she did this. I mean, there's always a possibility. Some of the most unpredictable people end up becoming murderers and people kill their husbands all the time, even though they look like they're in love.

So I'm not saying it's impossible, but I really think it's really unlikely. And for them to have convicted her beyond a reasonable doubt, it's just insane to me. Like, this woman should not be in jail, in my opinion. I think this is absurd. I feel so sorry for this family, but of course, I'm open to your opinions on this.

Let me know what you think. Do you think Sandy did it? Do you think that this is the outcome that should have happened? That is going to be it for me today, guys. Thank you for joining me for another episode. And make sure you follow the show on Spotify and Apple Podcast.

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