True Crime with Kendall Rae - The Uber Serial Killer

Episode Date: August 16, 2022

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And I'm really surprised I hadn't heard of this until recently and as soon as I heard it, I was like, wow, I have got to share this with my audience because it is truly mind blowing. Today I'm gonna be telling you about Jason Dalton, an Uber driver and his crazy story. So let's get started. So this is Jason Dalton and he was a regular 45 year old dude.

He was working as an insurance adjuster and had a wife who he had been married to for over 20 years and they also had two kids. Jason grew up in Greenfield, Indiana and he moved to Calamazoo during his high school years. So Calamazoo is about halfway between Michigan and Detroit and it's sort of a bigger town but it definitely has the small town feel to it. It is known to be a very safe, Midwestern area that a lot of people raised families in and people even travel there to get a little bit of that, you know, simple life. So in Jason's in high school, he was actually the

co-captain of his football team and he was a really good student, had good grades, and his friends described him as someone who was never really looking for any trouble was very easy going. So he went on to attend Kalamazoo Valley Community College and he graduated in December of 1992 with an associate degree in law enforcement, but he did not enroll in the school's police academy program. He married his wife Carol in 1995 and the couple had two children together

and they were 10 and 15 at the time of this incident. Now, Jason Dalton was described as a really nice guy, like a family man, just your average dude. According to one of his old friends, Jason had tried to become a police officer in Michigan and some of the surrounding states, but had no luck. He had no interest in moving away to find a police job so he just stayed put.

So instead, he decided to attend WIO Tech and study auto body work. And this is all the way in Laramie, Wyoming, which is kind of far from him. And the whole distance thing must have not actually bothered him as much as his friend said because Jason ended up working

at a BMW office in New Jersey. And this allowed him to get jobs as a mechanic and eventually as insurance adjuster. Jason loved to tinker with cars. He loved to mess, he just really liked cars. And he also really liked guns. And apparently at some point in his life, Jason had experienced a break in.

And whoever broke into his house, or his grow, I think it was just his garage, stole a bunch of his tools. And it was after this that he started buying guns to protect himself. Now around this time, Jason was described as having possibly a bit of depression. He was acting depressed, but no one knew what was coming. So we are going to go to February of 2016.

This is when Uber was just kind of starting to, you know, spread out to all the different cities across the country and they had just come to Kalamazoo. So Jason decided to sign up as a new bird driver thinking this was, you know, a good opportunity to make some extra coin. He specifically was saving for a vacation that he wanted to take. So he ended up doing the whole Uber thing and he was driving a silver Chevrolet Equinox and up until February 20th, 2016, Jason had pretty good ratings from his uber clients. But on February 20th, Jason was having a normal day, nothing bad had happened, it was going pretty well. Earlier that day, he met up with a friend and the two of them went to a couple different gun stores,

which was actually pretty typical for them. They did like to go to these stores, I guess, and hang out. When he was at this gun store, everyone that was there said he was in a pretty good mood and seemed normal. But after he had separated from his friend, it was actually 421 to be exact. And Jason was on his way to pick up his first Uber passenger for this shift. And his name was Matt Mellon. Matt had actually left his car at a friend's house

the night before, so he was taking an Uber to his friend's house to get his car and drive it back home. When Jason arrived, he actually had his dog in the back seat, so Matt hopped in the front seat. And at first, nothing seemed weird to Matt. He said this was a typical Uber drive. And during the ride, Jason got a phone call from one of his kids.

And he answered in on the speaker, so Matt could hear him talking to his son. And he said they talked for a couple of minutes, and he was basically wondering if Jason would be coming home for dinner that night And this is so strange right after he got off the phone Matt said that all of a sudden he took a 180 turn and Jason hit the gas pedal and they went flying They were driving down like a neighborhood road and Matt said they were going between 70 and 80 miles per hour. Matt said that Jason was just flying through stop signs, wasn't looking at all just doing completely reckless, doing whatever he wanted to do. Matt said that he was yelling at him, asking him to stop and he started thinking

maybe they would get in an accident, so he started bracing for impact. Matt was so desperate to get out of the car, he kept pointing at different friends' houses, telling him to stop because he was already there. But finally, after driving around a little bit, Jason slammed on his brakes. A witness named Casey Black lived inside of the house that the car stopped in front of. So I ran out into the front yard.

The silver Chevy Ebonaxe came screeching to hell in a door flu open, and like this guy does a tumble roll out of the car. One one. I was just saying a car with my Uber driver. If you're leaving in a lane, you sidestick the car. Say what kind of car is it? Chevy Epenax. If you want to talk to an officer,

sure you just want me to put it out in the world over the radio. I want to just I just want to report it. Because I don't want it to work. I understand what you're saying. But I need to know if you want to talk to an officer or if you want me to have an officer, if you just stand look out for it. I don't want it to work. I understand what you're saying, but I need to know if you want to talk to an officer or if you want me to have an officer, you should stand look out for it. I just want to stand look out. Okay, thank you. Now this call kind of pisses me off because it seems like the 911 operator just really disregarded what he was

saying and did not take it seriously at all. Now to their credit, they can't really do much about a driver that's acting reckless, especially if they didn't see it themselves. So when Matt caught up the phone to place, he went home and filed an actual report with Uber. And it has since changed, but in 2016, you couldn't get a hold of Uber if there was an emergency, like right from the app. But now you can. Did you say anything to him? Yeah, I was pleading for him to stop the vehicle so I could see he could let me out. He was surprisingly calm the whole time.

He was just stating that he was like, don't you want to get a ride to your friend's house? Don't you need a ride? And I was like, yeah, yeah, please just pull over and let me out. That's when he refused to stop. So he was calm. He wasn't driving really aridically.

He didn't seem agitated or anything like that. He was calm,. So he was calm. He wasn't driving really radically. He didn't seem agitated or anything like that. He was calm, even though he's driving very fast and radically. Yeah, yeah, exactly. We were swirving and non-coming traffic. Once we got closer to my destination, I was yelling at him, like, please stop, please stop. That's when he started to get more agitated with me,

and he was stating that he was like, where's your friends house? Where's your friends house? And I was pointing out random houses. So after Jason dropped Mat off, he went home and got at least one of his guns and a bullet professed. And he got back into his car to go pick up some more people. So it was around 530 when the next person requested a ride from Jason. Her name was Macy and she was 15 years old at the time and she was at an apartment complex called The Meadows. So when he showed up, he wasn't able to find her, so he ended up calling her and telling her that she was giving him wrong directions. He actually ended up getting

extremely frustrated and hung up on her. So Macy wasn't sure what was going on, so she sent him a few texts asking if everything was good and if he was still coming. But while Jason was trying to find Macy, he came across a woman named Tiana. She had actually just finished working out at her house and her daughter had a couple friends over and the girl wanted to go over to a different friend's house

to play, so Tiana said that she would walk them there safely and so that's what they were doing. Her daughter had four friends so it was five girls and her and while they were about to walk across the street Jason pulled up right next to them. He kept asking if she was Macy which she wasn't but he for some reason thought she was and kept insisting but she kept saying no no I'm not Macy. And he was driving really crazy. So she kind of set it in a bitchy way, you know, like dude, what the fuck? So he got really mad at her.

He sped away and then turned back around, came flying back towards her. And this time he had a gun pointed out the window. And from there, he just started open firing on all the girls. Tiana yelled at the other girls to run and not to stop, which is a great tip because, you know, you never know how good someone's aim is. And if you're a moving target, you're a lot harder to catch.

Tiana was shot a total of four times, and a neighbor ended up hearing the gunshots and came outside. And then I heard a woman, she wanted to know about her kids. She was going here. A bunch of people just like out and started helping her. They quickly called my mom and she was immediately asking if the kids were OK and thankfully they were.

Please don't move, they come in OK? Please don't move, we got the kids. Please don't move. I've never met her this was the first time. And it's the wrong way to meet your neighbors. She's very lucky and those kids are very lucky too. Physically blocked some of those bullets. What I do at all over again?

Hell yeah, I do it again. Oh my gosh, imagine. Six of them. That's really, really lucky for none of them to have died. Tiana was obviously brought to the hospital to treat her gunshot wounds, but she did survive. So at this point, police are starting to kind of put together that this might have something to do with the call

that came in earlier from Matt Mellon saying that he had this crazy Uber driver. And with this new report coming in, they said it was a silver equinox. They also said there was a dog in the back seat. So they connected this right back to the first collar and figured out that this is some type of Uber driver that's harassing people.

So the dispatchers ended up calling Matt back and he had actually gotten the name from Uber. How are you? Hi, did you call earlier about the Uber driver? Yeah, he picked me up from my house. Did you guys catch Homer? I know, we were just trying to see if he was involved in another incident. Okay. I have his name from Uber, Jason.

So he sends in Jason's Uber profile picture, which was a pretty clear picture. Now, what is really unfortunate is the police really missed an opportunity here, I think, to possibly contact Uber and get this account suspended immediately so he couldn't continue to get unsuspecting passengers, but they didn't. Not long after this happened at about 545, Jason ended up running a red light and side-swiping a car. It turned out to be a man named Jordan Lumis who was driving his wife to go get some ice cream.

So they pulled over and called 911. Come to county 911. Uh, hello. Uh, I need an officer to come out. I was just involved in an accident where a guy ran a red light and hit me in the minigre section. At this point, he's still driving a silver equinox, but now it has some damage to it. So police can kind of, you know, see him more easily. His car is more identifiable. So a little bit after this, Jason ends up calling his wife. He asks her to meet him at his parents house because he wants to

switch cars. Now this is crazy but he came up with this story to tell his wife you know because she's gonna be like well what the fuck happened to the silver Chevy Gwanox. He said that he was attacked and shot at by taxi drivers. He said that there was this huge feud between taxi drivers and Uber drivers, which, you know, sometimes they got beef, like I know especially in Vegas, they always talk shit about each other, but enough to shoot each other. He went into his parents' house and got a handgun,

and he actually gave it to his wife and said to keep this on her so she could be safe. He said that she had to keep the kids with her and keep them safe and not allow them to go to school on Monday and she couldn't go to work either. And then he told her, I'm not going to tell you what I'm going to do, but when you watch the 11 o'clock news tonight, you'll know it was me. So he switched cars and he ended up in a black Chevy HHR. So now the car that the police were looking for isn't even on the road anymore. After Jason left his parents house, he started doing more uber pickups.

Now people said that he wasn't acting strange when he was driving, but people did point out the only thing I was weird is, you know, the app says he's gonna be picking you up in a silver, Chevy Equalon, she can't just put in whatever car you want, they verify a specific car. So that you as the passenger can verify you're getting into right vehicle. But he was driving a black HHR and he would just tell passengers that his car was experiencing some trouble so he had to switch cars temporarily and people were believing him. You know there's this really strange sense like false sense of safety when you get in an Uber that because it's an Uber attacks you're something that you're safe but you're really not and it's very very smart to be super cautious checking the car, making because it's an Uber attacks you're something that you're safe, but you're really not.

And it's very, very smart to be super cautious, checking the car, making sure it's the right person, just being aware when you're dealing with Uber. I mean, this story, if anything, shows us that. We all should pay more attention to our Uber drivers. So it was then around 10 p.m. He hadn't shot anybody else, but he then had an encounter with the Smith family. Now, the Smith family consisted of a wife named Laurie, her husband Rich, and their two kids Tyler and Emily. They were an extremely close family.

Tyler was a 17 year old soccer player, and he was very carefree. So that night was actually a really special night for Tyler. Tyler, Rich, and Tyler's girlfriend were headed to a car dealership to look at trucks for Tyler. So this was a very exciting day for him. So Tyler's girlfriend ended up staying in their car while the two of them got out of the dealership and were looking around. It was then that Jason Dalton spotted them from across the street and started heading in their direction. When he got there, he stopped the car, hopped out and then started walking towards Tyler and Rich and he asked them what they were looking at after this. Before they could even respond,

he shot both of them multiple times. Tyler's girlfriend saw all this happen but you know was very fearful and decided to stay in the car until Jason left. Good move and as soon as he was gone she ran out, got Tyler's phone out of his pocket, called 911. Hi, we just drove by the Kia. Um, what, what are we on? 94 business, um, and a guy just shot some people in the parking lot. Can I run the emergency? Um, yes, my boyfriend and his dad just got shot. That's a, here y'all are all groups. Are they on the ground?

Yes, and they're not moving. Okay, stand the phone. Yeah, and they're not moving. OK, stand the phone. Yeah, you have to get officers in the house. OK. And unfortunately, it was too late. By the time the police got there, they were both pronounced dead at the scene.

So horrible. I mean, this father and son to just shoot strangers, point blade, so bizarre. I don't know why he came here. He didn't even look over here. The police officer got there. And so he's like, I'm sorry, ma'am, but your husband and your son were a shot.

And they didn't make it and then I just screamed. And then I had to tell my twin sister. I said, you know, the father and son that were shot at Cele. And she's like, no, no, it's not that. It's not that. But I said, yeah. So then less than a half hour from when Tyler and Rich were killed, there was a report of another shooting

at a Crocker Barrow. Kim, the 4911. I'm at the home. Kalamazoo Crocker Barrow and there's been gunshots in a car. Okay, hold on to anybody, but in two cars has been shot out. And little shots fired,

cracker barrel, multiple shots fired into a car. And this was about five or so miles from the car dealership. And two cars in the parking lot were shot at right into the cars. I heard that. I'm out there.

I'm out there. Look at me. I heard they were all dead. They were like, look, look, look, you got them all gone. Now, this is really, really sad because in this car we're really unsuspecting older women that had been friends for a really long time. There was Mary Jo Nye, Mary Luna, Dorothy Brown, Barbara Hawthorne, and all four of the women were friends. Mary Jo and Mary Lou were sister-in-laws.

There was one more person there, a young child. 14 year old Abigail was hiding kind of towards the bottom of the car. Officers came up and they were all shot at. So they figured everyone in the car was dead. They looked and everything, but then they noticed that there was a little girl in the car. Now this little girl actually called Barbara,

her grandmother, she wasn't actually called Barbara, her grandmother. She wasn't actually her grandmother, but she was really close with her. They had a really close relationship. That night, a bunch of women had gone to see a live performance at a theater, and they were at the cracker barrel afterwards, just to get some late-night food after.

Mary was in the minivan, and then there was another car next to her with the rest of the women in it. Now Abby, the little girl, got shot in the head. She was rushed to the hospital, but obviously that's a very, very hard injury to come back from. Her parents were just devastated

and drove to the hospital to meet her there. And when they got there, they were told that she likely would not make it. I mean, she was shot in the head. Her mom just sat with her, thinking she was in her final moments. A couple hours later, she flatlined. And they tried to do CPR.

That was horrific to see. We told them to let her go. If it was meant to be, it was meant to be, at that point we started to see her. When something crazy happened. I was holding Abby's hand. And I looked right at her and I said, Abby, if you can hear me. So this is Mama, I said, give me a sign.

And she squeezed me. I knew right there she was back and that she was going to fight like Hoyel. So Abby surviving is an absolute miracle. Abby was still alive. They turned on all the machines quickly saved her, and this little girl was so tough after many surgeries and a lot of rehab she eventually recovered. You know, she's still struggling with a lot of things, but for the most part she has recovered. Can you wave? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

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He immediately flipped his act. He acted like this really mellow guy. He seemed nice. He's been searched for just for a protocol. We just hit the search. He's getting all that, okay? You're Jason. Correct? Okay. What would you like to do right now? I'm not kind of just whatever you guys were going to do.

You seem like a pleasant person. Well, thank you. And I like to appreciate you being nice with two of me, too. It's not our job to be rude. I mean, we're human too. Just like you. You know how many people you killed tonight? I like to just get the fifth.

Okay. Um, what would you like to talk about? Yeah. I really don't want to talk about anything. Except whenever they would bring up, you know, you killed people tonight, like how many people did you kill or why did you kill them? He would just say, I played the fifth. So it was really, really strange.

But after kind of like buttering them up a bit, being nice to him and stuff, he finally started talking. And he started telling the whole story all the way back from when he picked up Matt and started driving out of control. He admitted to that. He admitted to hitting another car. He admitted to driving to the apartment complex. He shared a ground like a rock and changing. And what's so weird is the way that Jason talked about this was so matter of fact.

It's almost like he was telling the police not to mean he had witnessed versus something he actually did. I believe that I don't know the whole thing here. I know I killed her and I don't even worry about you assuming that you killed her because how can you survive that when you get a shot? He then started talking about his encounter with Mary Lou who was one of the women at the cracker barrel and he said that he went up to her and asked if she had a dollar to spare to make America great again. And she said no, and he shot her.

You know, after a while of talking to Jason, investigators asked him why, why did you do this? And his response was fucking wild. So that you guys are gonna have a hard time believing this, but it literally took over my mind. The over? Yes. I really didn't even see what the, what the, I just tapped it and then it was like a double head,

that popped up, through some sort of like, four, four head, like a cow head or something and I pressed that button and that's where all the problems went after that. So yeah pretty crazy. When I first heard this story I was blown away by him saying this like wow. So I mean the question here is did he really think that that was trinity really think his uber act was like possessed by a devil or did he come up with this story when he was driving around thinking about what he was gonna say? I don't know a lot of people think that he just said this in order to be considered Possibly mentally ill or insane, you know It kind of seems something skits a frenic to see a devil thing on your phone and do something It's an easy blame. It's a way to blame it and you'll get probably a lesser sentence if you can prove your mentally ill

So a lot of people think that's what he was doing. Trying to act normal, but acting kind of strange at the same time. So obviously he was taken into custody and it moved to trial. So his trial began on May 20th. Now obviously the first person that he shot at was Tiana. And she survived. So she was able to be a witness. Now this is very, very hard for victims to stand in front of someone that tried to kill them and confront them or tell the truth in front. You know, it's very, very overwhelming. So Tiana was on the stand doing this.

When Jason started harassing her, trying to intimidate the witness as they call it, but he was trying to freak her out. He started acting insane too. Like totally, I think he was totally putting on a show. Hey, um, solid. It's kind of a theater car. Black bags, they're black bags.

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I mean, he even told his wife, you know, catch me on the newsletter tonight. So he knew what he was doing. Jason had literally zero history of mental illness. I mean, it doesn't really make sense to have something like this, some type of episode, and then it to just go away conveniently when the police pull you over and you have to go in to talk to them. I mean, he was acting really normal. It seems like he's able to turn on and on. Because attorneys decided to go with the whole urine-saying thing, and they send him for a psychiatric evaluation

at the Michigan Center for Forensic Psychiatry. And this process for evaluation is supposed to take about 60 days, because obviously you can fake it for like a day or something. But if you watch him for 60 days, you're gonna see more of their true colors. After this, the actual trial would start that September or October.

Now, they set a bunch of different dates for the trial, but then they ended up moving it, so the trial ended up getting delayed and jury selection didn't happen until January 2019, so this year. Opening statements started on January 7th. And right before this, recently, Jason was on the phone with his mother, and he told her that he actually wasn't planning to plead insanity and that it was over. After all the professionals analyzed Jason, they determined that he did not meet standards for being mentally insane. So on January 7th, the child started and Jason pled guilty to all counts. If you would come forward, hopefully there's a microphone here.

I would ask that he be sworn. Raise your right hand, please. Do you saw me swear or affirm that the testimony you're about to give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, self-aggressive? Yes. Your full name is Jason Dalton. Correct.

Dalton, court has been advised of your intent to enter guilty pleas as to the various counts of this information. You should be advised that if you do enter such a plea, you will be waving or giving up certain legal rights. You understand that? Yes. I'm going to show you a document entitled

Advice of Rights. Have you seen this before? Yeah. I've read it earlier today. Is that your signature at the bottom of the page? Yes, both of them are. You understand that if you enter guilty plea, you will be waving or giving up many of

these rights because we won't be going to trial. That's what this is really exciting to me. You're doing this voluntarily if you're on free will. Yes, I've wanted this for quite a while. On February 5, 2019, Jason was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole. So, like I mentioned earlier, Uber has made some changes to their app since this event. They've made it a little bit safer and there's more tools

for passengers to protect themselves. It's still really unclear about why Jason did what he did. I mean, we'll probably never really know. I would love to hear your thoughts on what you think happened and why he suddenly did this. I mean, do you think he had some type of break that day and just spur the moment decided to do this stuff or was this something he had planned for a really long time? It is pretty bizarre, but the story really touched me in a lot of ways. The victims in this were so innocent and just did not deserve this and the ones that survived were just so strong. I mean Abby being so young and to survive a being shot in the head. I mean, oh my gosh. And then Tiana, to have six kids with her and try to protect them. I mean at one point she literally

shielded the kids with her body and took four bullets to save them. I mean she's a hero. So really amazing story and amazing people. And my condolences seriously go out to the families of everyone who lost them. I mean, so frustrating and so unneeded. I'm very confused about Jason. He's a strange one for sure. That is going to be it for me today, guys. Thank you for joining me for another episode. And make sure you follow the show on Spotify and Apple podcasts.

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