True Crime with Kendall Rae - What Happened to Jennifer Dulos?

Episode Date: May 31, 2023

In May 2019, Jennifer Dulos, mother of five, dropped her kids off at school, and then disappeared. She was last seen near her home in New Canaan, Connecticut. When she was reported missing by concerne...d family and friends, police went to the home to take a look, and found blood in the garage. Later on, they found her abandoned car nearby, also containing blood. Donate to NCMEC through my campaign!  https://give.missingkids.org/campaign/kendall-rae/c438796 Check out Kendall's other podcasts: The Sesh & Mile Higher Follow Kendall! YouTube Twitter Instagram Facebook Mile Higher Zoo REQUESTS: General case suggestion form: https://bit.ly/32kwPly Form for people directly related/ close to the victim: https://bit.ly/3KqMZLj Discord: https://discord.com/invite/an4stY9BCN CONTACT: For Business Inquiries - kendall@INFAgency.com

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Starting point is 00:00:51 Which by the way I wanted to remind you guys that I do have a request inbox for case suggestions Sometimes you guys send them to me via you know social media or in my comment section And it's very hard to keep track of cases that way So if you do have a request, please drop it in my form, which will be linked below as always. But the Jennifer Farber DuLos case has come up a lot in my request and I see why. It happened pretty recently and so much has come out since I first heard about it. There's a lot to go over here. So let's just go ahead and jump right in. So this is Jennifer Farber.
Starting point is 00:01:25 She was born in New York City on September 27th 1968. She grew up in an area called Brooklyn Heights in a very wealthy family. You could definitely say Jennifer's upbringing was very comfortable. Her dad made a ton of money in finance. He was the youngest VP for Chase Manhattan Bank, and he also founded his own company. Her mom also worked. She had her doctorate in early childhood education, so they both definitely valued their education and their career. Jennifer also has an older sister that she's very, very close with. And not only did she grow up privileged financially, but she definitely was very loved as the child had a privileged childhood in that sense as well. But even though she had, you know, everything someone could want, Jennifer was also very, very down to earth. People that knew her said she
Starting point is 00:02:11 had an incredibly warm personality and a contagious smile. She was very soft-spoken, very kind, and also very smart. She's kind of an introverted type. she's done a lot of time being introspective, getting into her own thoughts, and one thing that she loved to do in her spare time was right. She knew from a young age that she eventually wanted to pursue a full career in writing, and she did. She graduated from Brown University in 1990 and eventually got her master's degree in writing from New York University. She worked there as a freelance writer and had her own blog where she wrote about her everyday life and her experiences, just a very casual approach to writing, and she planned to bridge out into other projects as well. But then in 2003, she had a meeting kind of by chance with an old classmate.
Starting point is 00:02:59 This was someone that she knew at Brown and she actually met him when she was at the Aspen Airport here in Colorado. And his name is FOTUS DUELOS. He's a Greek American man who was a year ahead of Jennifer in college, but she was very interested in him right off the bat. He came across as very charming to her, very friendly and he also seemed well-educated,
Starting point is 00:03:22 worldly, and had a lot to offer when it came to having a deep conversation. And that was something that was super, super important to Jennifer. So, Fodos was born in Turkey, and he grew up in Athens, Greece. He came to the United States as an immigrant in 1986, and after graduating college, he got an MBA in finance from Columbia Business School.
Starting point is 00:03:42 He was also known for having a very outgoing personality for being extroverted kind of the opposite of Jennifer in that way. And he also lived a very active lifestyle. He had just won a championship for WaterSkin that he was very proud of. So after they met at my chance, Jennifer and Photos decided that they were going to meet up
Starting point is 00:04:01 for an actual date in New York City. But at the time, he was still married to his first wife. But Jennifer was thrilled. She even wrote about it in her blog. To her, Foda seemed like a catch because he was so charismatic and interesting and deep. Not only that, he was funny, he was handsome, he was smart, he seemed like the full package to her. And the thing that was most interesting to Jennifer was the fact that Fodas also seemed very interested in getting married, settling down, and having a family. And that's what she really wanted at this point in her life.
Starting point is 00:04:34 So they went on that first official date, and it went well, and they continued to date. And eventually they got married in August of 2004. And when they got married, he had only been officially divorced for about a month. So it was pretty quick. So after they got married, they moved to an upscale area of Farmington, Connecticut. That same year, photos decided to start his own company. So it was pretty hactic a lot going on. He decided he wanted to get into real estate development and start building really fancy luxury homes.
Starting point is 00:05:05 And it seemed like he did really well with this. Once Foto's got his company rolling, they decided they wanted to have kids, and they ended up having five kids, two different sets of twins. The first set of twins were boys, and then they had, and there's set of twins, a boy and a girl, and then they also had a daughter, so it was a full house. And POTUS ended up designing a huge six bedroom mansion for them. They had a library, a wine cellar, a fully equipped gym, an elevator, a four car garage,
Starting point is 00:05:35 and a full time home office with a private entrance, a bathroom, and a kitchen, it all for POTUS to work for. Jennifer decided to be a stay at home mom with the kids. She still kind of worked on her blog here and there and did some freelance writing, but most of the time she was focused on her children. Even most of what she was writing on her blog was about being a mother, and that was really the most important thing in her life. She had learned that from her parents,
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Starting point is 00:08:01 He made it almost like a second job for himself to train them. It became one of those things where the kids liked it at first, but eventually the fun was just taking out the situation because he took it way too seriously and it just became stressful for them. And Jennifer really felt like he was pushing them way too hard. But every time that she would bring it up to him he would get really angry and it would lead to a huge fight. That's the thing about FOTUS is he had a very quick temper and he was always quick to anger. As the years went on, they started fighting more and more and their relationship eventually became pretty toxic. All the fighting just took its toll on their relationship and they were spending a lot
Starting point is 00:08:41 less time together. They felt irritated by each other more easily than ever. And gradually they just spent less and less time together. It was clear that they were growing apart and photos started traveling more for work and he would go do his water skiing competitions as well. So he was going a lot. By 2016, he was away for at least 10 days out of the month,
Starting point is 00:09:04 which is a law especially with 5 kids. But Jennifer didn't actually mind him being gone. In fact, she felt like the house ran smoother when he was gone, so she didn't really fight it. So then in June of 2017, FOTUS goes to a competition in Miami. And while he's there, doing his water skiing, he meets this woman named Michelle Drakonis. Michelle was a single mom from Venice, Laila, and she instantly falls for photos. And
Starting point is 00:09:31 after spending just a little bit of time in the show, photos felt like he had more in common with her than he ever had with Jennifer. Michelle was a very athletic and competitive person just like photos. She actually worked as an ESPN reporter in South America and reported on Snowskine. She wrote horses in her spare time and was also a competitive water skier. So, photos was really into her. And she was too.
Starting point is 00:09:55 They were both falling fast. And according to Michelle, she had no idea that photos was actually married at the time. She was under the impression that photos in Jennifer had separated and that he was currently single, essentially. And she was so happy about meeting him that she went and told her family. She told her friends how excited she was to meet this guy. She was really impressed by him. She couldn't believe she found such a handsome charming guy with his life together who was also so kind. And one thing that she would read about is that he was super family oriented. He was so family oriented that
Starting point is 00:10:29 he spent all his time away from his family and instead spent that time with Michelle. So the kids were clearly really suffering through all of this. And Jennifer knew that there wasn't a fair going on. I mean, it wasn't hard to tell, especially with him being gone all the time and showing no interest in her or the kids. So she confronts him about it in March of 2017. And as soon as she does, it just all spills out. He confesses to everything. And Jennifer, honestly, isn't even that shocked. She knows deep down that this is the beginning of the end. So fast-boarding a bit to June 19th 2017 Jennifer and the kids had gone on a day trip to New York City and photos was back at the house waiting for them to come home Jennifer had also taken their babysitter her name is Lauren, but they never came back that day
Starting point is 00:11:18 So photos began to get worried so he starts calling and texting Lauren and Jennifer and neither of them are answering. However, their messages are being marked as delivered. He keeps calling, keeps texting, but no one is responding so he gets concerned and he calls 911. Here's the call. Yeah, I'm worried about my wife and kids because they left to go to New York and I haven't been able to get in touch with them. Okay, where they were going to New York? What's the license plate on the car? I used to get into New York.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Okay, what's the car registered to? It's registered to my wife's name, Jennifer Dulose. Oh, the same for me. Dulose DUL-L. Jennifer? G-A-E-S-N-I-F-E-R? Yes. You're here at Adabur?
Starting point is 00:12:11 September 27, 1968. They're not answering the cell phone. How many kids? Two. Five. Five kids? Okay, and how long ago did they leave Connecticut uh...
Starting point is 00:12:29 and they're supposed to be in the work tonight yeah i've been texting and i see that the text are being delivered but no more is responding to me okay a sudden officer over with the good you're okay here for Jefferson crossing yes uh... what i think you'll be here uh Uh, he should be there shortly. He's uh, he's not too far. Okay. Okay. Very
Starting point is 00:12:51 good. Thank you so much. Thank you. Yep. But it turns out that Jennifer was not missing this time. She had actually purposely left and she was leaving for good. She was done with her relationship with Photus. She rented herself a multi-million dollar home in New Canaan, Connecticut and filed for divorce and also filed for an emergency order of custody the next day. So Fodus gets off the phone and he's like, you know what? That's fine. He was absolutely no time and instead he calls up his girlfriend and invites her to come take up the vacancy at his house. So Michelle and her young daughter move into his house in Farmington. Now, it's really important to note here that in the court documents, Jennifer actually noted just how afraid she was to make this move.
Starting point is 00:13:36 She was nervous that photos might retaliate. She specifically said she was scared to divorce him because he can be dangerous and ruthless, especially if he thinks that he has been wrong. She expressed that she was worried that he might retaliate and that he had already threatened to kidnap the kids before, so that was her main concern. But Foto's fought back. He actually denied all of those claims
Starting point is 00:13:59 and he filed a motion for custody of the kids. So this back and forth, you know, through the court went on for a while. Together they filed 300 motions and spent thousands of dollars in lawyers fees and court costs. Divorce is an industry man. But then in January of 2018, Jennifer ended up filing for a second emergency order
Starting point is 00:14:19 of custody. And this is because they had agreed upon in court that Michelle would not be around Jennifer's kids at all. And obviously by moving them into his house, he violated that court order. And so in March, Jennifer was granted sole physical custody, full custody of the children and photos was able to do supervised visits only. Obviously, this was a huge blow for him.
Starting point is 00:14:43 He was not happy about it at all. He submitted a formal request to get custody of the children again, but on May 17, 2019 that request was denied. And Votus was obviously crushed by this, an angry. So we're now in May of 2019. Jennifer is happy, you know, that Votus has been denied, have Full custody of the kids. She has Full control, full custody of the Children. He's getting supervised visits. She feels good about that.
Starting point is 00:15:12 But she is still on terrible terms with him and is afraid of him. So in May 24th, Jennifer had a really busy day scheduled. She had two different doctors appointments in New York City, one at 11 a.m. and one at 1 p.m. But before all that, she had to get all the kids to school. And that's obviously run easy. She had two different doctors appointments in New York City, one at 11 a.m. and one at 1 p.m. But before all that, she had to get all the kids to school and that's obviously run easy.
Starting point is 00:15:29 She's got five kids. They're all under 13. She's a single mom and getting them out the door is a big challenge. Now on this particular day, the kids had a half day at school, but because her last appointment was at 1 p.m. in New York, Lauren, their babysitter obviously had to pick them up from school that day. So Jennifer took her Range Rover into the city for her appointments and she told Lauren that she would be back later that afternoon. So Lauren gets to their house around 11.30, she's gonna go and drop her stuff off,
Starting point is 00:15:56 maybe do a few things and then head off to go get the kids. But as soon as she walks in the house, she said right away, something just felled off and she immediately noticed that the Range Rover was still in the house. She said right away something just felled off and she immediately noticed that the raindrover was still in the garage. She thought this was weird because Jennifer told her she specifically be taking the raindrover but another one of their cars was gone so she thought maybe she took that car instead. Her other car was a Chevrolet suburban SUV and that was not in the garage. But then she went inside and she saw Jennifer's purse
Starting point is 00:16:25 on the floor, which is obviously huge red flag because most women take their purses with them everywhere, especially if you're gonna go downtown for an appointment in New York City, you're gonna have your purse, you know, your license, there's things that you need. Not only that, there was a mug of tea and a granola bar just sitting out on the counter,
Starting point is 00:16:45 like someone had left it and rushed. And Jennifer was not the type to just leave food out, leave mugs out, like she was very clean. So Lauren grabs paper towel and starts to clean up. And as she's cleaning up, she realized that there was only two rolls of paper towel left, but when she was there yesterday, there were 12. And that strikes her as really odd. Like, what mess could have happened in the house? That would
Starting point is 00:17:09 require Jennifer to have used 10 paper towel rolls. But she doesn't think too much of it. She decides to go and pick up the kids at noon, like she's supposed to. She picks them up, and then she texts Jennifer at 1243 just to check in and she gets no reply. She texts her again at 110 and got no reply. But she figured you know she's probably just in that second appointment. So she waited until 230 figured it was probably over by then and then texted again. But still she got no answer. So four o'clock came and she decides that she should call her, but when she does, it went straight to voicemail. So she gets very concerned right away, and she starts texting a few of Jennifer's friends, seeing if any of them have heard from her. She contacts one of
Starting point is 00:17:57 her friends named Carrie, Carrie Loft, and she immediately thinks that this is bizarre. She knew that there was no way that Jennifer just wouldn't be responding. Jennifer was the type to always respond or answer calls as soon as she could. So Lauren's obviously panicked, doesn't know what to do. So she decides she's gonna take the kids to Jennifer's parents in New York. And they don't know what Jennifer is, so they're all concerned and they're all together at their house in New York and they don't know where Jennifer is so they're all concerned and they're all together at their house in New York. When she gets over there, they decide to report her missing at 7 p.m. At this time Jennifer Duelos was 50 years old.
Starting point is 00:18:33 So the police took Jennifer's case seriously right away. I mean, we have a wealthy white rich woman who is normally very active in her children's life, in her family's life. She just completely goes missing. This is the way they should treat all cases, fortunately not everyone gets this type of attention this quickly, but Jennifer did. Jennifer had these two doctors appointments that day, they were important appointments that she dismissed. This was super, super unlikely. And then the fact that she hadn't packed any type of bag shows that she wasn't planning to go away for a little while and she left her purse. Obviously it would make absolutely no sense for Jennifer to just leave her
Starting point is 00:19:12 life and abandon all five kids with no warning. So they obviously start by searching Jennifer's home and they started in the garage and in the garage there was a dark red stain on the floor. It was on the side of her Range Rover, and it was also splattered onto a garbage can. It looked like blood, but there was this like swirled pattern in it that looked like someone had clearly tried to clean it up. So they officially called it a crime scene. They blocked everything off, and they swapped everything, brady and everything inside the
Starting point is 00:19:44 whole house and the garage. And as soon as they start this, they start looking for Jennifer's SUV and they found it right away. Literally just a little over an hour after she was reported missing, they recovered the vehicle. It was abandoned at Waveney Park, which is about three miles away from her home
Starting point is 00:20:01 and it was backed up against this tree. So they immediately launched a large-scale search of this park. It was 300 acres and multiple police departments and the FBI teamed up and conducted it. They brought in canine units, divers, even helicopters. They were hoping to just find something. The phone is a book for clues when we came in park, New York State, and Connecticut's capital city. The FBI is once again focusing their search here on the secluded woods of
Starting point is 00:20:28 Waveney Park. In that night they decided that they also needed to inform voters. So they went to his place which is about 70 miles away from where she lives. And when they talked to him he says that he hasn't heard from Jennifer or the kids all day. But he said he was concerned and agreed to go to the police station and be interviewed and help it anyway. So by the next morning this story are you made it to the media. Jennifer's friend Carrie became kind of the spokesperson for their family and their focus was obviously on finding Jennifer, but they also wanted it clear that they want the kids kept safe and also shielded from everything going on. But Carrie said that she had a sinking feeling in her heart that Jennifer was never coming back.
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Starting point is 00:22:09 Dark and bold from Community Coffee Look for it at your local grocery or community coffee.com After the media covered it, there was a lot of interest from the public. People just couldn't believe that this mother of five had just banished this way. We love you so much. And we just want you to come home. And you'd have to have a heart of stone if it didn't affect you.
Starting point is 00:22:35 It's just surprising there's so many police officers around. If you have any information about her, whereabouts or concerning her disappearance, please, please contact the newcane and police or the Connecticut state police and help us find Jennifer. Cod's people on to your two physically search for Jennifer, help hang up flyers, spread awareness, and Jennifer's mother filed an emergency action to get
Starting point is 00:22:56 full custody of the kids temporarily and make it so that photos would have no contact with them and it was granted. So the next afternoon, photos went to the police station as he promised them to do his interviews. And his lawyer was literally on the phone with a criminal defense lawyer as they went into the door. So they were fully prepared and lawyers told police that photos would actually not be answering any questions that day. And detectives thought this was really weird. When they first interviewed him, he seemed concerned. He seemed willing to help.
Starting point is 00:23:28 The mother of his five kids is missing. You'd think he'd wanna do everything he can to help locate them, but he didn't. He didn't wanna cooperate at all. And not only that, he didn't even ask how the search was going for Jennifer if they were writing leads or any new information, didn't even seem to care. So they ended up seizing his phone and they worked on obtaining a search
Starting point is 00:23:50 warrant for his home and his car. They accessed Jennifer's credit cards, her bank account, and her cell phone records, and there had been no activity since the morning that she disappeared. But then they got a big break. A neighbor actually turned in security footage from their morning. It was a view of Jennifer's driveway. It showed that she left in the Range Rover at 7.58 AM to take his to school and came back just a few minutes later at 805. And then at 10.25, the Range Rover backed out and left.
Starting point is 00:24:19 So that tells us that whatever happened to Jennifer happened in that garage between 805 and 1025. So the obvious thing to do here is track photos of phone records. I mean everyone has their phone on them nowadays. See if he is anywhere near the garage at that time. So the search warrant for his phone records came through and they were able to access them. But all they saw was that his phone was at his house that morning and didn't move. Which obviously doesn't prove much.
Starting point is 00:24:47 You can leave your phone at home, but they did find some odd activity on his record that evening. They tracked into Albany Avenue in Hartburg around 7 p.m. and he had made multiple stops along that stretch of road. So that looks very odd. And then they decided to talk to the babysitter, Lauren. They asked her, you know, what has it been like working for this family?
Starting point is 00:25:11 What does their relationship seem like as co-parents? What have you noticed? And she noticed that even when they were together, that photos always seemed distant. She said that he had a clear temper and that the two of them fought all the time. Lauren said that Jennifer was very depressed, mainly due to her relationship with Fodus. She said Jennifer was a lovely person but was very, very sad. She explained how the breaking point for her was the affair. And it turns out that after she found out about Michelle, Fodus had actually asked if Michelle and her daughter could move in with him and Jennifer. Yeah, that's right. He wanted them all to live together. And she obviously said no.
Starting point is 00:25:52 And she wanted to keep fighting for their relationship, but he wanted to move on. He wanted Michelle instead. And this crushed her. But her real final straw with him was when she found out that he bought a gun. She found a receipt for this gun, and she felt scared that he might use it on her, and she thought it was weird that he didn't just tell her he was going to buy it. So Lauren explained to the police that after that happened, she made a plan to get the kids and her out of the situation completely. And once investigators had a better idea of how toxic this relationship and that she was trying to flee this emotionally abusive relationship, it all was starting to make more sense. So they knew they had to put together a timeline of what happened that day.
Starting point is 00:26:32 They also need to figure out what the health focus was doing in Hartford making multiple stops on that road. So they started working with the Hartford police to pull video footage from multiple security cameras around the city. And together even more footage, they actually drove through the city with a loud speaker out the window of the car and screamed. If you have any surveillance footage, please send it in to us so that we can review it. So they gathered 12 hours of different surveillance footage from different places and started piecing it together. They found that a black Ford Raptor truck had matched the stops that he was making on Albany Avenue and Hartford according to his cell phone. In fact, he stopped at 30 locations in a four mile stretch. Several people had seen the driver
Starting point is 00:27:17 and confirmed that it looked like photos and at all of these little stops along the way, he was dropping trash bags. He was spreading them out in multiple garbage cans. In fact, they even caught him pushing one down into a storm drain. And in one shot, they saw a woman leaning out the passenger side door and reaching down toward the sidewalk. And this woman matched the description of Michelle Tukonis. That's right, Michelle, the woman that photos was having an affair with. So the description of Michelle Triconis. That's right, Michelle, the woman that photos was having an affair with. So the team of detectives were obviously dispatched
Starting point is 00:27:50 right away to go look through these trash cans and see if they could find any evidence. And they did recover a couple of the bags and inside of the ones that they found, they recovered a kitchen sponge, paper towels, zip ties, plastic bags, a mop sponge, paper towels, zip ties, plastic bags, a mop handle, and women's clothing completely covered in blood stains.
Starting point is 00:28:10 And they also found a few other weird clues. They found this metal label with a logo on it for this French made bicycle company. And they also found a box in a storm drain. And it had two Connecticut license plates in there, one for the front of a vehicle, one for the back. And it looked like it said 5 T6 WB U, but that was actually because he had tape on it. It actually said WB J. And when they looked up that license plate number, it was registered to photos.
Starting point is 00:28:38 So at this point, they started searching the Hartford landfill. And they did this for three weeks. searching the Hartford landfill. And they did this for three weeks. This meant hours going through 30 to 35 tons of garbage a day, looking for Jennifer's body, but they found nothing. And eventually it was time to bring in Michelle for questioning. And when they talked to her, of course, she provided photos with an alibi.
Starting point is 00:29:01 She said that that morning they woke up together. They had sex and they showered together, they had sex, and they showered together. According to her after that, he went and hung out with his friend Kent, who is a former lawyer. At 9am, Michelle left the house as well, and she didn't see him again until 1pm that day. And when they do me back up, she says that he asked her to go and help clean a house for a client with him. But investigators thought this was really odd. I mean, FOTUS is a rich guy. He owns this company.
Starting point is 00:29:30 He owns all these properties. Do we really think he's the one who cleans them all? And Michelle said after they were done cleaning, that FOTUS asked if she wanted to get the Starbucks. She said yes, but they never actually did. On their way to Starbucks, instead, he kept stopping and tossing out random bags according to Michelle and she claimed she doesn't know what they were or what was in them
Starting point is 00:29:52 And she also said that she was just kind of on her phone during all this and not really paying attention But she did confirm that it was her and photos in these surveillance video and that's really all the police needed So on June 1st, 2019, they were both arrested. When state police arrested photos do lose at his Farmington home, he's wearing a great t-shirt with no expression on his face. Police have found a lot of evidence, including her car, bloody clothes, but there has been no sign of a body.
Starting point is 00:30:23 Their official charge was tampering with or fabricating physical evidence and first degree hindering prosecution. But within just a few days, both of them were out on bond. Of course, they have a lot of money, but they were put on ankle monitors and they were ordered not to talk to each other at all. And still, photos was not allowed to see the kids, which Jennifer's family was really happy about. So when this happened, Michelle decided that she should probably move out of photos as hell, so distance herself from him as much as possible, so she and her daughter move out into an apartment out of his mansion. And after he was first released, he gave a pretty strange TV interview, and he talked about how the media made him out to be this monster.
Starting point is 00:31:02 It's been a very tough time for the whole family. We're all very worried about Jennifer. How do you think the public looks at you? It depends. I think that the people that do not know me, they probably look at me as a monster. As a monster? Yes.
Starting point is 00:31:17 And that is because of the information that has come out. And I cannot speak about what happens. So they take the narrative that they see from the arrests, the arrests, warrants, and what is being reported in the press, and they draw their own conclusions. So I've already been convicted in their mind. What do you want people watching to know?
Starting point is 00:31:42 I want them to know that this is a very, very challenging time for my whole family, and we just have to be patient to get to the other side and see what happened. Do you have any message for Jennifer's family? Yes, I send my prayers. I, I had my differences with Jennifer. Like, it didn't work out for us,
Starting point is 00:32:03 but that doesn't mean that I wish for it in any way. Where do you see this going for you? I tried to go day by day. When it first started, I seriously pinched myself a couple of times, and I said, this is cannot be true. I'm dreaming this. I'm wearing orange, and I'm in a cell,
Starting point is 00:32:24 six feet by nine feet and this is this cannot be true. Do you think you've been treated fairly by the criminal justice system? I do. I think with the information they had they did the best they could and I understand they have tremendous pressure on them and it's also statistically when something like this happens, 90 or 95% is the spouse. So I can understand why people feel like this. Do you
Starting point is 00:32:51 have any thoughts about that, about her disappearance or what 's happened? I do, but I'd rather not speak about them today. Now, photos as family members say that they are shocked, that they can't believe that he would have anything to do with it, can't believe that he would have anything
Starting point is 00:33:05 to do with it, and they believe that he is innocent. Michelle's family feels the same way. They feel like there's no way that she would have had anything to do with this, and that people are making assumptions. So at this point, the investigators did not have enough to actually charge FOTUS with murder, but they felt like they were getting close
Starting point is 00:33:24 so they kept dating. So they found out that that Black Ford Raptor truck in his surveillance video was registered to Photosys Company. It was usually driven by one of his employees and that employee would leave his old unreliable red toyota truck at Photosys' home office in the morning and then swap it for the Black Raptor to go to job sites. Now, FOTUS did take the black rafter to ditch all those trash bags that day, but they realized that someone else had driven this employee's old red truck that morning. The red Tacoma left FOTUS's home at around 5.30 AM before the sun even came up.
Starting point is 00:34:00 They tracked it to Waveney Park right near the spot where Jennifer's Range River was found. And then hours later they tracked the Tacoma to 80 Mount Spring Road, which is one of Potice's properties. So they decided that they're going to search the property and all the other properties that he owns too. So they do a multi-day search and find absolutely nothing. So they figured out that the red Tacoma was returned back to PotOTUS' house at 12.22pm. And sadly, by the time that investigators actually connected to the case, it was too late to process it for evidence. Not only that, they had discovered that FOTUS and Michelle had taken it to get detailed
Starting point is 00:34:37 five days after Jennifer first went missing. This was a 20-year-old work truck, and it was completely spotless after this. They tried searching it but they found absolutely nothing. But before they left the auto shop where he got the cars cleaned, one of the employees asked them if they wanted to see the old seats that were in the car. That's when they found out that when he had the car cleaned, photos actually had them replace the seats from an old Porsche that he had. The employee though thought this was really weird and he decided to hang onto the seats,
Starting point is 00:35:13 which was super smart. Investigators knew that there had to be a reason that photos wanted those seats gone. And of course, on the passenger side of those seats, they found a stain that could be bled. So they cut out the fabric, they sent it off for testing. They also asked the employee if Photos ever rode a bike, and it turns out he did, and this employee had fixed it a while back. It was a unique bike with ram horn handlebars, just like the bike that matched the metal logo
Starting point is 00:35:41 that they found in the trash. And that's when they went to the surveillance footage near Jennifer's house and they found a video of someone riding a bike, that exact type of bike towards Jennifer's house at 740 in the morning. This summer, PXU Energy is back. The ultimate summer path, starting 50% off energy charges all summer. Everybody's on for automatic energy savings. Plus free energy on the hottest day.
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Starting point is 00:37:05 So it seems really obvious now. The day she disappears, he was headed towards her house What's happening? What's happening? What's happening? What's happening? What's happening? What's happening? What's happening? What's happening? What's happening? What's happening? What's happening? What's happening? What's happening?
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Starting point is 00:37:21 What's happening? What's happening? What's happening? What's happening? What's happening? What's happening? What's happening? What's happening? out what he and Michelle did that day and it included their friend Kent. So it showed that Kent could possibly be involved in this. So that was very interesting for them to find. Now at this point her family was still hoping that maybe there was a chance she would come back alive. But then the forensic evidence report came back with some pretty devastating news. I'm sure they
Starting point is 00:37:43 figured that this was the case, but it just confirmed that the blood found in the garage on the trash cans on our clothes and other things found in the garbage bags actually did belong to Jennifer. And based on the amount of blood at the crime scene, the report actually classified her death as a homicide of violence. And they also noted that it was considered non-survivable. But not only that you guys, they found that Jennifer's blood also had photos as blood mixed into it. Having that mixture of their DNA at the crime scene
Starting point is 00:38:19 is a slam dunk. Not only that, his DNA was found on the door handle of the mudroom, which means that he was at the scene of the crime area. Photos had never lived at this house, he never visited either, so there was no reason for his DNA to be there, and the fact that it was mixed with her blood, case closed, right? So detectives decide to talk with Michelle, again, try to figure out if she's involved. The more they talk with her though, they start to feel like she really could have been manipulated by FOTUS. But they also believed that she probably knew some
Starting point is 00:38:49 things and was being manipulated into keeping from secret. Please thank you every station. I'm going to help you. I'm going to help you. I'm going to help you. I'm going to help you. I'm going to help you. I'm going to help you. I'm going to help you. I'm going to help you. I'm going to help you. I'm going to help you. I'm going to help you. I'm going to help you. I'm going to help you. I'm going to help you. I'm going to help you. I'm going to help you. I'm going to help you. I'm going to help you. I'm going to help you. I'm going to help you. I'm going to help you. I'm going to help you. I'm going to help you. I'm going to help you. I'm going to help you. I'm going to help you. I'm going to help you. I'm going to help you. I'm going to help you. I'm going to help you. I'm going to help you. I'm going to help you. I'm going to help you. I'm going to help you. I'm going to help you. I'm going to help you. I'm going to help you. I'm going to help you. I'm going to help you. I'm going to help you. I'm going to help you. I'm going to help you. I'm going to help you. I'm going to help you. I'm going to help you. I'm going to help you. I'm going to help you. I'm going to help you. I'm going to help you. I'm going to help you. I'm going to help you. I'm going to help you. I'm going to help you. I'm going happened to Jennifer. I have no idea where Jennifer is. And they ended up telling her that the house that they cleaned up that day, it was Jennifer's. That's right, he had tricked her into helping clean the entire crime scene. That's assuming that she didn't know what was going on. And as they're explaining all of this to her, she suddenly drops a bombshell.
Starting point is 00:39:24 She said that she actually hadn't been with Photos at all that morning. She said that he was gone when she woke up and that he had left his phone at the house in the home office. And not only that, she said that at some point in the day Kent had been to the house, his lawyer friend. She said at one point it was the two of them in the office and that Photos had called and he told her to pick it up and detectives believe that this was done
Starting point is 00:39:47 in order to make it seem like he was at the house when he really wasn't. When they interviewed Kent, he said that he was with Michelle that morning, but he denied knowing anything about Jennifer. So they started to dig a little bit more into PhotoSys Company. And that's when they discovered that his company
Starting point is 00:40:04 was really not doing well at all. In fact, it was failing. It was deeply in debt. Turns out FOTUS had borrowed $2.5 million from Jennifer's dad to try and save the business and it didn't work. And when her dad died in 2018, he just stopped paying off the loan. Jennifer's mom actually had to file a civil suit against photos to get the money back. So it turns out that photos was actually in debt of about seven million dollars from multiple loans. They also found out that Jennifer's parents had set up a two million dollar trust fund for the kids and that started to make them think that maybe his motive was killing Jennifer
Starting point is 00:40:43 so that he could have full custody of the kids. Maybe in his mind he thought he would have gotten full control of that $2 million. So then several months into the investigation, something huge happened. A man came forward saying that he discovered a shallow grave in the woods around a gun club a week before Jennifer went missing. It was a fancy club for the super rich on 25 acres of land. The guy was just in the woods hunting with his buddy
Starting point is 00:41:10 when they came across this grave. It was a six-foot hole with two bags of lime, which I'm sure most of you true crime fans know that lime is sometimes used to hide bodies. It was covered by barbecue grates and a blue tarp to them. It looked like someone was planning to bury a body and remember this is before Jennifer went missing that they found this. Later this guy had overheard that Jennifer was missing and she was connected to this guy named
Starting point is 00:41:36 Kent who was a member at the club. So investigators dug more into this Kent guy and they found out that he was a terrible person. He is estranged from his ex-wife and she accuses him of sexually assaulting her and she said that she was so afraid of him that she was worried that he and Fodis might come kill her one day. So that says a lot. So they questioned him again and of course he denied everything. So things were pretty quiet for a while and then in September of 2019, F, photos and Michelle were both arrested. This time it was for tampering with evidence. Both of them pleaded guilty,
Starting point is 00:42:10 and they were both released on bond. It's an exhausting fight. I love my children. That's about it. We've pledged not guilty to the pending charges where we intend to plead not guilty to these charges, and we look forward to a full day in court. That December, his two nieces flew in from Europe to support him and keep his spirits up.
Starting point is 00:42:31 However, his lawyer prepared him to get ready for a murder charge coming probably in the new year once the holidays were over. So then on January 7th, 2020, Michelle and Kent were both arrested for conspiracy to commit murder. And then, FOTUS was arrested that same day at his home in charge with felony murder and kidnapping. And of course, they all pleaded not guilty.
Starting point is 00:42:54 This time, FOTUS was held on a six million dollar bond, which he was able to gather that money and bail himself out. He was released on strict conditions. And Michelle was also released and put on house arrest But Kent didn't have the money to post his bail so he was just stuck in jail So trial was coming up and prosecutors believed that they had a really strong case They had over 400 pages of search warrants, affidavits, and other bits of evidence to prove that Fodis was the one who murdered Jennifer and that Michelle and Kent were both somehow involved. Now of course when you go to trial
Starting point is 00:43:30 without a body it can be very very difficult to get the guilty charge. Fodus' lawyers were able to argue that maybe Jennifer wasn't even dead because they didn't have her body. The state has trying to put together a case that Mr. Doolos is responsible for that murder or for that disappearance. We take the position there's insufficient evidence to conclude that she's even dead. And they actually started pushing the disgusting theory. They had the nerve to say that Jennifer actually staged her own suicide in order to frame photos because she was mad about the way their marriage ended. Michelle's lawyer claimed that she was mad about the way they're marriage ended. Michelle's lawyer claimed that she was misled by the police
Starting point is 00:44:09 and said incorrect information when she was interviewed. They claimed that they twisted her words to fit their narrative, essentially. According to Michelle, she had no idea that they were actually cleaning Jennifer's house that day. And she also said she had no idea that he was dumping trash out while she was in the car. And in that surveillance video where she's seen actually leaning out of the car,
Starting point is 00:44:32 she said that she was wiping gum off of the sidewalk. Girl, what? So I don't know what exactly I think about Michelle. Her family supports her and think that she's also a victim of photos that she was manipulated by him as well. They said that she was under the impression that he was in with Jennifer anymore and that she truly had no idea what was going on. It's been devastating because we know my sister will never harm anybody.
Starting point is 00:44:58 So then before trial even began, this case got crazier. Photos was ordered to court that day for an emergency hearing on whether or not they would revoke his bond. He had told his new girlfriend at the time, Anna, to meet him at the courthouse and that he was headed out. While she was driving there, FOTUS's lawyer calls her
Starting point is 00:45:19 and asks where he is and she has no idea. So the lawyer looked at FOTUS's GPS location because he's wearing a tracker and they see that he's still at home. So Anna knew that something was wrong right away and she told FOTUS's lawyer to call 911 and he did. Police were sent to his home and
Starting point is 00:45:37 that's really found FOTUS sitting in his car, sitting straight up, not moving inside of his locked garage. They could see through a window that Mr. Dulo was sitting in his vehicle and he had obvious signs of medical distress. The paramedics were called and police broke into the garage and when they did, they found out that photos had used a vacuum cleaner hose from the exhaust pipe of the SUV to the window. He was found unresponsive and he was surrounded by pictures of his kids, but they did get a faint pulse so they ended up airlifting him to a hospital in the Bronx in critical
Starting point is 00:46:16 condition. But Photus never recovered. The kids were brought into the hospital to say goodbye, now losing both parents and they made the decision to take him off of life support. So he did write a note. There was one part I thought was interesting and he said, I refused to spend even an hour more in jail for something I had nothing to do with. And then a month later the state ended up dropping their charges against photos. Now, photos' attorney and his sister are fighting to this day to clear his name.
Starting point is 00:46:45 They see his suicide note as proof of an innocent man who could not handle being accused of murder. Obviously, the potential for a bond provocation was devastating years to him. But throughout he has been a fighter and resolute. In our review of the discovery, we very much like our options for trial. And we very much like their possibility of success. So this development comes as stunning news to me. But Jennifer's family feels a complete opposite. They see it as an admission of guilt.
Starting point is 00:47:15 That the guilt finally caught up to him and he took his own life. The state is still pursuing charges for conspiracy to commit murder against Michelle and Kent. However, Michelle is currently out on bond. Kent has turned into a state witness and is now implicating Michelle in the murder. And after spending nine months in jail, he was actually released on Reduce Bayl. Now to the state, investigators have not found Jennifer's body and they're still searching. In January 2021, Candidate Get State pleases visited the property on Mount Spring Road, Fall of Unholed Leeds. They even brought this man named Bob Perry out there
Starting point is 00:47:47 who is nationally known as the Bone Finder. And he uses ground penetrating radar to discover secret gravesites. But even he hasn't been able to find anything yet. Jennifer's friends and family are heartbroken, doesn't even cover it. Absolutely devastated by her loss. Jennifer was incredibly loved, and she's so, so missed
Starting point is 00:48:08 to this day, people just want answers. And of course, they want to find her body as hard as I would be, because I would confirm that she's no longer alive, but they want to be able to bury her and be able to really start to the process of grieving. I totally get that. Not having answers, not even having a body,
Starting point is 00:48:25 it's got to be like one of the worst things in the world. You made a rest, that's great, but we still have to put on Jennifer. And that's our number one priority. If people out there, as we pull hard to at least suspect that have information, we would like to speak to them so that we can bring this case to some type of closure for the family. We miss Jennifer beyond words. The ache of her absence does not go away. Countless questions do remain unanswered. It went on to say, but the earth keeps spinning
Starting point is 00:48:54 and somehow an entire year has elapsed. We can see it and measure it in the growth of four children who are taller, stronger, and wiser, and more like their mom every day. Jennifer's kids are grandmother in New York which is good. It's the possibly be, but it is just a damn shame that now they don't have it's just tragic. Jennifer
Starting point is 00:49:17 justice. Those kids need a friend's need answers and it sucks because now that photos is gone. They may never get the answers justice. Those kids need answers, her family of friends need answers and it sucks because now that photos is gone, they may never get the answers they truly deserve. Like I said, this one is just so frustrating because there's really not that much to work with at the end of the day and now the suspect, the main suspect, is gone. That is going to be it for me today, guys. Thank you for joining me for another episode.
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