True Crime with Kimbyr - Allyzibeth Lamont: Betrayal and Mystery Before Halloween

Episode Date: January 22, 2025

In this episode of True Crime with Kimbyr, we delve into the haunting case of Allyzibeth Lamont, a 22-year-old from Johnstown, New York, whose life was tragically cut short just two days before Hallow...een in 2019. Beloved by friends and family, Allyzibeth was a hardworking and selfless young woman. But beneath her seemingly ordinary life lurked a web of betrayal and darkness. Join Kimbyrleigha as she unravels this chilling story of mystery, deception, and heartbreak. Don't miss the first installment of the "All Hallows Horrors" Halloween series! Subscribe for more captivating true crime stories. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Just two days before Halloween on an otherwise ordinary cold October night in Johnstown, New York in 2019, 22-year-old Elizabeth Lamont clocked in for her shift at a local deli, never suspecting that anything out of the ordinary would happen to her that day. Allie was seemingly loved by everyone in her life. She had a close circle of family and friends and a positive relationship with her new boyfriend. She was working hard to save some money and carve out a space in the world that was her own. Little did she know that among the people in her everyday life, there was a sinister plot lurking beneath the surface. As this disturbing story unfolds,
Starting point is 00:00:42 I'll uncover a complex web of lies, betrayal, and darkness. As always, this is a tough story to unravel, but it's an important one to share. Allie deserves to have her story told, and we could all use a reminder that sometimes even the most terrifying monsters are hidden, in plain sight and doing the right thing can go horribly wrong. Hi everyone, welcome back to my channel. If you've never been here before, I'm Kimberlea. Nice to finally meet you. The cases in the series happened on or around Halloween or the month of October. Each one of them has their own haunting twist to them and today I'll be introducing you to Elizabeth Lamont. The first thing I noticed was the spelling of her name. It's not the traditional
Starting point is 00:01:57 Elizabeth with an E, no, no, no. It's special, it's spelled Elizabeth, A-L-L-Y-Z-I-B-E-T-H. And you know what? I like it. I've seen a lot of people make fun of unique spellings of people's names, even mine. I've never seen Elizabeth spelled this way, and I think it's really cool. Definitely stands apart.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Elizabeth Ann Lamont was born in Johnstown, New York, on December 4th, 1996 to her parents Sherman and Krista Lamont. Elizabeth had three sisters, two older sisters, Carly, who was three years older, and Lou Ellen, who was about a year older than her, and she had a little sister that was two years younger named Brooke. She was close to all of them. She considered her sisters her best friends.
Starting point is 00:02:42 They had a really special and strong bond. The Lamont family lived in Gloversville. It's a small town in Saratoga County. It's north of Albany and upstate New York. And I've never heard about this area before. And you know how interested I am in understanding the life that people live that we get to know in these cases. And when I think of upstate New York,
Starting point is 00:03:01 I think of Syracuse and Gloversville is not quite like that area. Here it is on the map, it's a pretty small town. From what I could see, there was only one elementary, middle, and high school, which means everyone who lived there would be somewhat familiar with the people they grew up with going to school together and moving through that single educational system. The average income in this area is around $40,000 a year, and most people rent places instead of purchasing homes because the property tax is actually really high among other reasons, of course. I also learned that one of the pros, according to Google, but I think it was probably
Starting point is 00:03:40 misplaced in that category, and it's more of a con, is that a lot of places are run down. There's a lot of rundown areas, and I did see a lot of abandoned homes when I was looking at Google Maps. The job opportunities in the small town are not many, and sadly, it's reported that over 16% of the residents there are actually living in poverty. What the Le Mans did not have in wealth, they made up for with strong relationships. They valued family and they leaned on one another for support. Now Elizabeth's friends and family knew her as Ali, and that's what she preferred to be called. So from here on out, that is what I'm going to do as well. Allie attended Gloversville High School. And from what I could gather from her Facebook profile, she began attending in 2011 and she had many,
Starting point is 00:04:27 many, many close friends. They took a lot of photos together and they looked like typical teens having fun in between going to school and figuring out what they wanted to do after graduation. Growing up in a very supportive environment helped Allie develop a strong sense of community and a desire to help others. Allie's dad Sherman described his daughter as someone who always stood up for others and looked after people. He admired her selflessness and her willingness to put others' needs before her own. Everyone close to Allie agreed she was a remarkable young woman who had strong connections with people in her life. Allie deeply understood the importance of caring for others and she was always there to help.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Allie was more than just a familiar face in Gloversville. She was a symbol of the small town spirit that held this community together. By all accounts, she loved her hometown and she didn't have any desire to leave, not even for a brief time. And it's not all the time we hear that. We usually hear this small town girl wanted big city life. But Ali, she wasn't like that. And within the confines of this cozy little city, it seemed that Ali found everything that she needed.
Starting point is 00:05:34 And once she became an adult, she took the next step towards independence by moving out of the family home. But Ali's heart always remained close to those that she loved. Never a day went by without her checking in and touching base with someone in her family or one of her friends. By 2019, Ali was living with her childhood friend Jenny, and they were close since they were 13 years old. Although she enjoyed spending time with Jenny and Jenny's young daughter, Ali had goals of her own. Her dream was to move into a place of her own and really build the life she wanted. I think that's so relatable for many of us, the longing for personal space, especially when you're grown up in a bustling household with a number of siblings.
Starting point is 00:06:17 So no doubt, Ali would have felt like she wanted that time for some peace and quiet on her own terms. Something I noticed and I wanted to point out and commend her on and her sister Brooke is how to how well they could do makeup. That winged eyeliner, it's perfection. I can't. My hands are not steady enough, but I did take note that both of them really enjoyed
Starting point is 00:06:39 getting dolled up, and you can tell they were very talented when it came to makeup skills. By March of 2019, Allie was one step closer to her goal. She landed a job at a popular deli nearby called Local Substation Number 9. It was only about 10 minutes away from Jenny's Place, which was great, because Ali did not have a vehicle. She did not drive yet. So she had to rely on friends and family to give her a lift
Starting point is 00:07:03 whenever she needed one. Now Local 9 wasn't just a job for Ali. She wasn't there just to make ends meet. She wanted to achieve things for her future. So she was very diligent. She intended on starting behind the counter and then moving her way up over time. She was dedicated to all of her responsibilities. But more than that, Ali was dedicated to people. She stood out. She had these big blue eyes. her makeup, the way she carried herself, and of course how helpful and pleasant she was. But not only was she a fixture at the local substation for all the customers who came in, but she made friends with her coworkers. She was always there to help.
Starting point is 00:07:41 One thing Ali was known for was making sure everyone who was in need was protected and taken care of. There was a time when a fellow coworker had nowhere to sleep one night. She was going to have to spend the night out on the street, but Ali would not let that happen. She gave her a place to stay. She said if it wasn't for Ali, something really bad could have happened to her that night. Another coworker was suffering from a panic attack. And Ali jumped in action. She rushed her into the bathroom, which was one of the only private areas in the deli.
Starting point is 00:08:10 And she held her as she cried. She said Ali always had kind words for everyone. Her hard work was recognized by her boss as well. 51-year-old Georgios Cacavelos. He owned this deli along with his wife. Allie ended up taking over a lot of the management duties alongside the official manager, 34-year-old James Duffy, who everyone called Jimmy. Allie also considered Jimmy a very good friend, along with his girlfriend, Kristen, who
Starting point is 00:08:34 also worked at the local nine. For more than six months, Allie worked hard at this deli. She was trying to save enough money to move out on her own. She was dedicated and motivated, and on a clear path towards her goals. That fall, she also made it official with a new boyfriend, William Deming. They made it Facebook official on October 4, 2019. so things were really coming together for Allie. But unfortunately, this is where the positive part of the story comes to an end.
Starting point is 00:09:04 Things took a turn for the worst when just two days before Halloween on Tuesday, October 29, 2019, a call came in to the Gloversville Police Department around 10 p.m. Officer Chad Simonson answered the phone that night. It was one of Allie's older sisters. She said she hadn't heard from Allie since the day before on Monday, and members of the Lamont family were growing increasingly concerned because none of them could get a hold of Ali. And that was very out of character for her not to be in contact with them regularly. On a Facebook post from Ali's older sister Carly earlier that day, she explained, quote,
Starting point is 00:09:39 if I don't get a confirmation that anyone has seen or heard from Elizabeth, I'll be filing a missing person's report. Any information on her whereabouts and safety, please PM me. It's clear that no one reached out that night with information on Ali's whereabouts, and that is what led to this call. The first thing Officer Simonson did is he looked to see if any reports had come in that day that involved Allie's name or description. There was nothing on record, but there was something.
Starting point is 00:10:08 Simonson had a gut feeling from the minute he answered Ali's sister's call. He just felt like something wasn't right. And that's different from what we're used to hearing. This was a rookie cop. But maybe that meant he didn't have a jaded perspective that a lot of veteran cops had. When they just assume, you know what, it's an adult, they ran away, no need to worry, but no,
Starting point is 00:10:29 something about this did not sit right with him that night. Simonson gathered as much information from Allie's sister that he could about Allie, including her last known address on record, which was at 71 Division Street apartment 1, and it's late, but Simonson heads out anyway. It's only a three-minute drive from the PlayStation. Here is Division Street,
Starting point is 00:10:50 and you can see some of those, run down homes that I mentioned seeing when I was on Google Maps. But when Officer Simonson arrived, he realized this was most likely Ali's last address before she moved because the apartment was vacant. And we know she's actually living with her friend Jenny. By this time, Allie's sisters had actually gotten in touch with Jenny and when Simonson returned to the station around 11 p.m., he received a phone call from her. She was also concerned because she had not heard from Ali since the previous day. After speaking with Simonson, Jenny decides that she wants to go ahead and file that missing persons report, and even though it's late, once again. Simon Sid proceeds to drive over
Starting point is 00:11:31 to Jenny's and the two of them sit down to talk about the last time Jenny saw her best friend. The previous afternoon of October 28th, Allie was at work at the local nine. Jenny gets a text from her around 4.29 p.m. Allie texted Jenny and said, can you bring me my phone charger? and Jenny responded with, sure, be there soon. But a minute later at 4.30, Allie said, thanks so much. Then Jenny told Officer Simonson that she drove over to the deli and she dropped off the charger. That was actually the last time she saw her. And since Jenny usually gave Ali a ride to and from work, Jenny texted her around 6.26 p.m.
Starting point is 00:12:09 And she said, when will you be getting off work? But to her surprise, she didn't hear back from Ali. But knowing her usual schedule and that local nine closes at 8 p.m., M. Jenny texts her again at 7.55 and she said, will you be getting out at 8? Still nothing. No response. No call. No text, no nothing. And that was odd. How was Allie going to get home that night? Well, she didn't get home that night, which really worried Jenny. So by the next morning, when there was still no word, Jenny actually drove over to Ali's work to see if anyone knew where she was or where she went after her shift was over. Did, Someone else pick her up. Well, Jenny ends up speaking to Jimmy. That's the manager and he was on duty and he said he had seen Allie, but she was not scheduled that day, which made it even more peculiar and mysterious.
Starting point is 00:13:01 Because if she wasn't working and she wasn't home, then where was she? She wasn't with her parents or her siblings. So where could she possibly be? Jenny told Simonson that Ali maintained a very close group of friends and family members and she was regularly in contact with them. if none of them had heard from her, that's a huge red flag. The next logical person to check in with was Ali's boyfriend, William. It's late, but that didn't matter to Simonson. He drove out there, but William was nowhere to be found. However, William's brother answered the door, and he explained
Starting point is 00:13:34 to the officer that William was actually out searching for Allie. This situation was getting more and more concerning. It seemed like no one in Allie's close-knit circle of friends and family knew where she was. realize the gravity of the situation, Simonson decides he's going to go ahead and issue a BOLO to every law enforcement agency statewide. And in case you're not familiar with the term BOLO just stands for B on the lookout. I'm sure you've heard it before, but I like to explain these things sometimes. So now law enforcement agencies would be actively searching for an individual who is wanted or missing and to keep an eye out. It also signifies a higher level of urgency. And I have to say I'm pretty impressed by the quick response and dedication that Simonson had
Starting point is 00:14:17 to the situation, especially in a small town. But Gloversville was a place where everyone seemed to know everyone. And the sudden disappearance of one of their own definitely started to raise the alarm. Especially a vibrant and young 22-year-old woman who has seemingly vanished into thin air. Do you ever realize how many phrases we got from William Shakespeare? I know it's off topic, but that's one of them vanished out of thin air. It's actually two phrases put together from Mathello and the Tempest, and there was about 1,700 other words and phrases that he came up with that we still use today, especially in true crime I find, and it blows my mind. So if you hear another one in this video, comment below.
Starting point is 00:14:58 By the morning of October 30th, Simonson's night shift was over, and there were still no reports of Alley being spotted. So Simon said had to relay all of Alley's information to his shift sergeant that morning, and he too thought they needed to look into this as soon as possible. One surprise of the details, two detectives were actually signed this case. Detective Gillian Fayville and Detective Sergeant Lucas Nellis. It's actually pretty uncommon for them to get a missing person's report in regard to an adult. They usually deal with teenagers who turn up as runaways, so the detectives begin their investigation by going back to basics and revisiting Jenny Young, Allie's friend and roommate. They want to know if there's anything unusual going on with Ali, especially the last time Jenny saw her.
Starting point is 00:15:41 But she says, no, not at all. Ali's demeanor when she dropped off the phone charger was normal. They actually had plans to go trick-or-treating with Jenny and her daughter on Halloween. And Ali was her usual self. She was laughing and joking around, and there was nothing that stood out as being off. Then detectives inquire if Ali had any issues with anyone, or if she was going through anything in her life, that would make her want to leave town. Jenny's like, no, not at all. She did recently start dating a guy named William, and things were going well with them as far as she knew, so that's what she told the detectives.
Starting point is 00:16:16 She also said, Ali was in a good mood. She seemed genuinely happy about their upcoming Halloween plans. But not too long after this, the detectives got some information from inside the police department. They had run Ali's name, and they discovered that there had been an incident, a domestic incident, with an ex-boyfriend named Tyler. And understandably, this definitely made some red flags go up. once again. They jumped on this lead immediately. Could Tyler have found out that Ali had a new boyfriend and decided to harm her? Was this a case of if I can't have her? No one can. Well, they go to his last known address to pay him a little unannounced visit, but he's nowhere to be found.
Starting point is 00:16:57 So although they're having some issues tracking out Ali's ex-boyfriend Tyler, in the meantime, detectives decide to try William once again, her current boyfriend, and they do end up making contact. and from his account their relationship was very positive it was healthy and he was really forthcoming about the last time he talked to his girlfriend as well as his whereabouts at the time of her disappearance william said that they had been texting back and forth on october 28 when she was working her shift at local nine the last text and he showed him the phone came in at 639 p.m and it was just small talk the weird thing is william told investigators that he and ali they would text or message on Facebook all day every day when they weren't together, even if she was at work.
Starting point is 00:17:42 They even did video chats while she was on her shift. But that evening, while in the middle of messaging over Facebook, all of a sudden, her responses stopped. She wasn't answering and William tried texting her and calling her. And he did not stop all night, even after she should have been off work. And at that point he noticed his messages were not going through at all. He also told the detectives that Ali usually came over to his place after work most days, but he didn't hear from her that night. And they were supposed to get together the following day on
Starting point is 00:18:14 Tuesday to carve pumpkins with William's son. He did not know what happened to her. So he ends up going to meet with some friends that night. And where did they go? They went to the cemetery. Why? Well, they went there according to William to have some beers. And now that's an interesting setting, but it was close to Halloween. So I guess it could be fitting. William tells detectives that when they were done he crashed at a friend's house and he was worried about all night and he could not sleep when he didn't get in contact with her the next day he went out looking he spent hours in the woods and looking on the road sides and even met up with jenny and they both were searching neither one of them had stopped calling her since their last text and that's
Starting point is 00:18:57 when william finally reached out to ali's sister lewellyn on the night of the 29th and explained that no one had spoken to ali since evening before it was now going on the second day And she was nowhere to be found. When Llewellyn checked around with friends and family, she confirmed no one had seen her. That's when that call to police went out. Aside from the chilling setting that William and his friends went to to grab a cold one, nothing seemed to miss with the way he recounted what happened up until this point. And William's concern for Ali was regarded as completely genuine.
Starting point is 00:19:31 But as you probably know, no one is going to be completely ruled out as having nothing to do with her disappearance until she's found alive or they rule them out as suspects. So they still want to keep an eye on William. And we know all too well that partners statistically are one of the most likely people responsible for causing harm to those close to them. And that's very sad but true. During this time, Ali's friends and her family members are taking matters into their own hands. They're reaching out to people and they're trying to spread the word with the help of social media. They were getting the attention of news stations who were tweeting out Ali's and asking if anyone had seen her.
Starting point is 00:20:08 They'd also been posting missing persons posters everywhere. The community's concern was evident in the effort that they were putting out there and that was a testament to the impact Ali had on everyone's life. They were out there searching. They were handing out flyers. They were asking around. They were actually doing their own investigation. And of course, theories were being formed, but I mean,
Starting point is 00:20:26 naturally when it comes to true crime, many times it's the boyfriend or the ex-boyfriend, so all eyes were on Tyler and William. Here's an update that looks at the true crime. that Llewellyn posted on October 30th after she talked with police. It said, quote, The police contacted me. My sister's cell phone dinged four miles away out in Hales Mills right before being shut off. That was the last location the police were able to find for her phone. I don't know how her supposed to be going home after work and coming to Gloversville leads to her being four miles away. It was an answer, but not one any of us were hoping for or
Starting point is 00:21:02 expecting. My anxiety is through the roof right now. I just want my little sister to be safe. This is a picture of my sister. We just want her home safely. We love you so much, end quote. And then she also tagged Allie's Facebook account. Now I looked up Hills Mills and here is where this is in reference to the local nine deli. Apparently this would have been entirely out of the way for Allie to be out there four miles away, especially because we know she doesn't drive. It's in this area where there's just a lot of land and there's nothing really out there except for what appears to be cornfields. So why would Allie be all the way out there?
Starting point is 00:21:42 Now I've gotten many comments that you really like seeing Facebook posts because it helps to humanize the people I'm talking about and it also gives us a lot of context. These are things that won't be in the news or on shows and it's one of my favorite things to really dive into. I want to know what was actually happening in regard to friends and family. Well after Llewellyn posted that her little sister was missing and that her phone pinged out in Hales Mills, she got 286 comments on that post. And there was one from a person named Matthew that said he lived out on the 29 and wanted to
Starting point is 00:22:14 know when Ali's phone died because he could go out and look around in that area near him and ask anyone if they saw her. That was very nice of him. And well, Llewellyn responded that it was around 7.40 p.m. on Monday night. That's important because that means her phone was turned off before. her shift ended that night. Not to mention it pinged before it was turned off. So that would suggest if this information is correct that she left work at some point with someone. But who? We know her phone probably didn't just die because she got that charger from Jenny earlier that
Starting point is 00:22:49 day. So it's very odd. This same day, the detectives finally managed to reach Allie's ex-boyfriend Tyler who agreed to come in for questioning. His criminal history included disorderly conduct complaints and that domestic incident with Ali. That made him a person of interest right away. Tyler had a bad reputation, but he appeared to be very cooperative during questioning in this interview. He told investigators that he and Ali had gotten into a domestic dispute and it turned physical. He admitted that the incident resulted in her sustaining injuries, but he claimed that this was an isolated incident, that it was the first and last time that it was the first and last time that he was. anything like this happened during the course of their entire relationship. He went on to explain
Starting point is 00:23:34 the background of this incident. In his words, he and Ali had been together for four years, and things took a turn one night when she showed up at his apartment unannounced about two months ago. She was fired up and she seemed ready to get into an argument because she had heard that he was cheating on her with one of her best friends. When he was asked how exactly Ali received these injuries, Tyler claimed that because she was she was being so combative, he had to restrain her. But isn't that what they always say? But you know what? We weren't there. And Ali isn't here to defend herself and to tell her side of the story, so we will never know exactly what happened. But his side of the story is that after the heated blow
Starting point is 00:24:15 up, he blocked her number, he blocked all of her social media accounts, and he hadn't heard one single word from her since that night. He assured the police he had absolutely nothing to do with Ali's disappearance. But given the history of violence between them, They were not ready to close this chapter yet. They still had their eye on Tyler, but his story did exonerate him a little bit. It made him look, I guess, less guilty. And even though these things did happen, there's nothing to actually hold him on. So he's free to go.
Starting point is 00:24:45 The detectives do decide to look a little deeper into Tyler and Ali's relationship. They cross-reference his statements with other accounts, and there didn't seem to be any recent communication with Ali. As it turns out, this is not the first time that Ali has gone missing. She had been known to run away when she was younger. In fact, there had been numerous missing persons reports filed about her when she was a teenager. But on the other hand, they needed to acknowledge the fact that this disappearance was quite different. She was a responsible young woman.
Starting point is 00:25:15 She was an adult, not a young girl. She held down a steady job. And she was in contact with her family all the time. And she'd never been missing for this long before. So as the police are working hard to piece everything together, Allie's boyfriend William comes in to the police station. And he also had some upsetting news. He told them that Ali had been really depressed lately. He said that she even considered treatment and being hospitalized.
Starting point is 00:25:40 She walked into St. Mary's Hospital to check herself in, but once there, she decided it wasn't an option for her because she did not have access to health insurance. And this was like just a couple of weeks before this happened. William just couldn't get the thought out of his head that she might have caused harm to herself. The investigators couldn't rule it out completely. Allie's mental state could have played a pivotal role and why she just vanished.
Starting point is 00:26:04 It wasn't clear why William would have held back because he seemed to be so straightforward when they talked him the first time, but it was most likely because he wanted to protect his girlfriend's privacy. But as time went on, he knew that he had to let them know. I saw a Facebook post on Allie's account from over a month before she went missing. It was from September 2nd. It said, quote, it's with a heavy heart. I have to do this.
Starting point is 00:26:26 but I'm looking for someone or a family to take in my two handsome loving tuxedo cats. Their names are Gizmo and Frankenstein, one and two years old. Unfortunately, due to circumstances in my life, they're better off with a loving family, who has the time they deserve. Frankenstein is neutered, Gizmo is not. I do not wish to separate the two. I would love for them to stay together. They are very close to each other.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Gizmo loves his big brother. They come with food, litter, cat tree, collars, and very, very good. different bubbly personalities. Please help me find my babies forever homes." End quote. That's sad. There was definitely a lot going on in Ellie's life that she had to feel like she had to give away her beloved pets. This gives us an idea of her state of mind a month before she disappeared, rehoming her two cats that she was so very attached to. But of course this could be due to the fact that she was moving around a lot to different apartments and different friends' homes. And with her work schedule now, maybe she just couldn't take
Starting point is 00:27:26 care of them. But it could have also been because of what William said that Ali was very depressed. Giving things away is another sign that someone may have plans to do something to themselves. These are just all clues to be taken into consideration. But from what Jenny relayed to the investigators, Ali was fine. She was happy. She was looking forward to Halloween. So they definitely needed more information. The investigation into Ali and the Mont's disappearance had taken on even more urgency. Time was going by. And they just said, got dead end after dead end. The detectives were feeling the pressure and they wanted to find answers. So the deli where Ali worked and was last seen became their central focus. Investigators figured
Starting point is 00:28:08 that her coworkers who had seen her on a regular basis for the last six months may have even more context to provide. So they head over to Local 9. Now keep in mind, the store doesn't open until 11 a.m. The investigators were going over there before opening, so when they get there, the doors locked. However, the lights were on. It looked like someone had had been inside preparing for the morning shift, but there was just nowhere in sight. They checked the exterior and they noted that there was a handwritten sign taped to the window that indicated that the store was undergoing renovations. But since it looked like it was operational, the investigators didn't know when that was posted.
Starting point is 00:28:42 It could be old. You know how these things happen? Like people forget to take down a sign. Or it could be new. Maybe they were starting soon. Either way, they wanted to see if anyone had come in that day. So they walk around the building and they spot two people out by the dumpsters on site. Law enforcement had made several attempts.
Starting point is 00:28:56 are ready to call the store, hoping to speak to Allie's manager, but so far all the calls to the actual shop had not been returned. Both of the people out there by the dumpsters ended up being employees of Local 9, including Kristen, who was the girlfriend of the manager Jimmy. The investigators introduced themselves and they asked Kristen the last time she saw Allie and she explains she was not working on October 28th, but her boyfriend was. He was the person that was responsible for closing the store the evening that Ali disappeared. But Kristen explains, Jimmy is not there, right now, the owner barely comes in, and Jimmy would be their main point of contact so she gives them his phone number and the phone number of the owner of the store, Georgios. So the investigators
Starting point is 00:29:37 go ahead and make calls to both Jimmy and Georgios, and they don't get an answer from either one. With time continuing to go by, the detectives decide they need help, so they call for assistance from the New York State Police, and they send in their major crimes unit task force led by investigator John Nigro and investigator Darren Jones. They're going off the lead that Ali may have depressed so they check all the hospitals the mental health facilities and they're not able to locate her and now that the state police had joined forces with the local detectives they go back to local nine hoping they're going to get an interview with jimmy since now it's during business hours

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