True Crime with Kimbyr - Part 2: Military Wife Murdered - Diary Held Clues To Her Death | Kathleen Lipscomb - True Crime

Episode Date: January 7, 2026

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But you couldn't see any other physical wounds on her body at this point. So they do transport her to the medical examiner's office to do a full autopsy. This is when some additional evidence comes too late. But before I get into those details, it's important to jump back and tell you what was going on as far as her family and her friends finding out what happened. It can go without being said, but I will let you know as soon as her mother

and her sister were contacted, they were in shock. Total disbelief about what was happening. Her sister said that there were so many emotions going through her. And there's going to be even more shocking news to come because they didn't know that Kathy had some secrets. And all of this will be coming to light as I get more and more into the story. When her friends and family are being interviewed, they immediately let police know that Kathy is going through a divorce with Bill and that he is very high up in the Air Force. Immediately alarm bells start to go off because there was something significant at the crime scene.

something that stood out. Remember how I told you that Kathy's clothes were next to her? Well, they weren't just thrown next to her body. They were meticulously placed right next to her in a fashion that was very distinctive. They were rolled. I don't know if you've ever seen the way that individuals in the military roll their clothing so they can put them in their backpacks in other places and they can spare the room. This is called a Ranger Roll.

I'm going to show you an example of it right here on the screen. This is, like I said, for people in the military to save room in their backpacks. You can fit a hell of a lot more in there if you're rolling up your clothes. This is a huge clue.

Clearly, whoever did this must be in the military. It was a force of habits. They do it all the time and they must have done it again in this state of mind they're in. They're rushing to drop Kathy's body off, but why even leave her clothes there? Maybe Bill has some answers

because he is the first one that they call in for questioning. But as soon as they let him know what happened and that Kathy was dead, he is in shock. There was just a total look on his face like he cannot believe that this is happening. He turns white as a ghost. He doesn't understand how it can be possible. And he let them know that he and the kids

went over to her apartment the night before and she was nowhere to be found. He told him about the note that he left for her, but of course, they're always going to suspect the partner. And not only that, he's in the military. So that links him right away to the way the clothing was folded and they're going through a divorce. So of course, of course, they're going to look at the husband. And he is just distraught.

He's upset. He's talking about how he's been looking all over for her and he's torn apart. and he says, I have nothing to do with it. But not only that, when they press him about the fact they know about the affair with Dr. Pearl, because they had heard it from the coworkers when they interviewed them, he said, yeah, I know that. I'm aware of the affair. I'm aware of everything that's going on and I'm okay with it. I understand. There's nothing I can do. Kathy's free to do what she wants. Those were her wishes. And that he's accepted the fact. fact that Kathy has moved on and there's a nothing he was able to do about it. The next thing they

want to do though, because you know the husband's going to be the prime suspect, right? They want to see if there's anything out of the ordinary about the way he looks. Does it look like he's been scratched? Are there marks on his hands, defensive wounds, anything that would lead them to believe there was a sign of a struggle, but they couldn't find anything. There were no bruises, no scratches. is, it doesn't look like he's been involved in any kind of attack. So Bill also explains he has an alibi. He was at home with his kids that weekend and on the night that Kathy disappeared. And this is sad, but they do have to bring the children in for questioning. And they both confirm that they were with their father the entire weekend. Bill also tells them to check with his second in command,

staff sergeant Nicholas Richards, because he was also with him all day. At this point, they can't spend all of their time looking at one person, especially a person that does have a very high position in the military, who has literally made that his life, he's not the type of person that would just go around doing things wrong. This man lives for perfection. So they decide to go interview some of his colleagues, people that were on his team at work, and they all tell police that Bill would have nothing to do with anything like this. They go to the Blackland Air Force Base and they interview Nicholas. He confirms that, yes, he was with Bill, all. all day on Sunday hanging out at his place with the kids.

Meanwhile, they're getting even more critical information elsewhere. So they turn their attention from Bill to someone else, the other man in Kathy's life. They go down to the hospital and they want to interview Kathy's coworkers. They already told the investigators about the affair with Dr. Pearl. But there's more. After they tell detectives all the things I already told you that she's infatuated with him, that she's in love with him. that she's in love with him, that they go on these vacations in the form of conferences and they parade their relationship around. It's very obvious to everyone, all the staff that they're together.

However, they're about to drop a pretty big bombshell on investigators, something that I definitely wasn't expecting to hear. Something that Kathy didn't know. She wasn't the only one. That's right. Poor Kathy risked everything to be with David, but David wasn't really risking much. He had the upper hand in this relationship, not only the one with Kathy, but with a number of other women that he worked with. That's right. This man was hooking up with all these different nurses. He was doing the same thing. He was doing to Kathy with other women, taking them to different conferences, having them over his apartment, allowing them to just fall in love with him.

And none of them knew anything about the others. But it wasn't much of a surprise to the people on the outside. because they're watching all of this unfold. Maybe Kathy was in denial. She didn't have a clue. Or maybe she was just so blinded by her infatuation that she didn't realize what was really going on. She had no idea what the truth was

because there's more. And this part makes me so mad. I was already mad about the cheating. I was mad about what Kathy was doing behind Bill's back. But now I feel bad for Kathy. I feel like this poor woman, she was manipulated. she was tricked. And essentially, I feel like her whole world was turned around on a promise that was never real. It takes two to tango. I'm sure you've heard that before. And it wasn't just Kathy.

This man knew what he was doing because he had done it time and time again. He had used his place of power to pretty much entice these nurses to come home with him and begin these relationships. And it turns out he would tell every woman that he was going through a separation and all along that wasn't the case. The shocking part of it all had just come to Kathy. She had just found out that David was living a lie because when she filed for divorce from Bill, she was excited about it. And the first person she wanted to share that excitement with was David. When she met with him to let him know the news, he said he wasn't ready to settle down with her. and Kathy was crushed.

She did not understand what was going on. For all we know, her very first relationship in life could have been Bill. She wanted answers, so she started to dig in to his life. And that's when she found out about all of the other women. He didn't have any intention of being committed to Kathy. He was just stringing her along like he does with every other woman. In fact, he wasn't even going through a divorce at all. He didn't have any plans to leave his wife.

Mm-mm. She had no idea that any of this was going on. They were happily married as far as she was concerned. David was actually a pretty perfect husband. Aside from his cheating, he did everything for his wife. She had the house, the car, the kids, anything she wanted, the lavish lifestyle. Kathy confronted David. And at this point, she's desperate.

Desperate times call for desperate measures. she's now threatening to expose David to his wife. She would do anything to make David hers. She said if you don't divorce your wife the way you told me you would and be with me, I'm going to go tell her. I'm going to tell her about me and you, and I'm going to tell her about everything else I found out. But David was bold and he said, no, go ahead. I'm not leaving my wife. this has got to be an incredible situation to be in, to find yourself in. You get desperate and Kathy was in this moment. She probably thought, you know, if I tell his wife, she's going to leave him.

She's going to be like, out with the trash. I don't want you anymore. And then Kathy could swoop in and make David hers. And it gets worse. But first, the investigators have to call David in for questioning. But I want to turn back to the autopsy report because I left you hanging. and there's something they found that was very important. They find four red strands of hair on the clothing that was found next to Kathy's body.

They also determined that the cause of death was strangulation, but not only that, a very important clue. Something that puts Dr. Pearl right in their crosshairs and to the top of their list of suspects, they find semen in and on Kathy's body. They determined that Kathy had sex within 24 hours of her murder, and the bruises that were found on her body were thought to be signs that there was a struggle involved, and it could have been forced intercourse against her will. An interesting fact that I heard in this case that I hadn't heard in any of the other ones that I've done is that when they examined the contents of Kathy's stomach, there was Chinese food that wasn't digested. This meant that she had just eaten a short time before her death. Also, there were ant bites on her legs and the ant activity in that area happens during the day. So that meant if they're trying to establish a timeline, that Kathy was probably placed in that location in or around the early morning hours.

So I'm talking like it's still dark out early morning like into Monday, two, three o'clock in the morning. This meant that Kathy died on Sunday night the night that she went missing, the night that Bill couldn't find her, and specifically around dinner time on Sunday night. When they took those four strands of red human hair, they put them under a microscope and they noticed that the hairs had no roots. And that's when they usually take the part of the DNA from the root and they use it to establish a positive DNA match. They can't do that in this case, but not only that. when they magnified the strands at a hundred times, they noticed that the hair was actually dyed. This was important because now they had something that they could compare to potential suspects. Yes, they're not naturally red.

Someone has dyed them red. They don't have the root on them so they can't, you know, 100% match someone. But they could take someone else's hairs that they might think are involved in this, set them side by side, magnified them and see if there's a match. But beyond that, there was nothing else left behind at this crime scene for them to go on. And we're talking 1986, forensic testing was sort of in its infancy. They didn't have much to go on as far as comparative analysis is concerned. But now before I go back to Dr. David Pearl and him being called in for questioning,

there was something that happened when police arrived at Kathy's apartment to take a look at the premises. Her car is still missing. They haven't located it yet. But they do find that note on the door that Bill left and they open it up and just said he stated, he refers to the fact she wasn't there, that he has the kids, that they're safe, that she could call him or come pick them up as soon as she got home. But now they're actually canvassing that apartment complex. They're going door to door and they're asking anyone if they saw anything out of the ordinary. And it turns out there was something peculiar happening over there in regard to Kathy's next door neighbor. A man named Vincent. He had happened to be a nurse at the same hospital that worked closely with Katz.

and this man is gone. He left town. He moved out of the apartment the same day that Kathy went missing and he didn't even give any appropriate notice to work. They didn't even have a forwarding address who sent him his last paycheck and they thought that was very suspicious. But not only that, another neighbor comes forward and says that she saw an unfamiliar red-headed woman come knocking on Kathy's door the day after her disappearance. No one answered the door so this woman just walked away when she saw her. without saying a word. Remember, there were four strands of red hair found on Kathy's clothing. So this is strange.

They make it a point to focus their attention on trying to locate both of these individuals. Meanwhile, they get Dr. David Perlin for questioning, but guess what? He's not alone. His wife Linda is with him. Yes, the supportive wifey is right by his side. Not only that, David doesn't seem faced

when he hears that Kathy has been killed. His demeanor is cold and he reacts to the questions with precise answers, not giving up too much information. He does quickly and simply and like cut and dry admit that he had an affair. He does this in front of his wife, probably all already told her. And he says, yes, I was with Kathy that weekend and I was with her on Saturday night.

He may have been the last person to see her alive. While David's admitting all this, Linda is by his side. and it's clear to detectives that she has no intention of leaving her wealthy doctor husband. It's so painfully obvious that she's not going to leave him that they even start to think she may have been involved in some way. Jealousy is definitely a huge motivator, not to mention the way that Kathy was killed. Strangulation can be a personal crime.

This could have been related to the love triangle that Kathy unknowingly found herself in. detectives think Linda has way more to lose than anyone else. She would lose her husband, her luxury lifestyle, and it turns out, David doesn't even stay at that apartment that he brings women to. No. He comes home to Linda every single night. They wonder if David and Linda were in on it together. They think that maybe Kathy was being silenced. Detectives try to press the couple and they clam up.

They tell them, we're not talking about anything. else unless we have an attorney and that's not a good sign the interview ended so abruptly so now detectives have to turn back to the evidence that they already have the information they gathered about the suspicious redhead and the neighbor it turns out the neighbor just happened to get out of a relationship that same weekend he and his boyfriend got into an argument the weekend that Kathy was murdered. So he picked up and he moved away to another part of Texas. His leaving had nothing to do with Kathy's death. Just a coincidence. But what about the redhead? That can't be a coincidence, right? They found red hairs at the scene. But it turns out that that was a coworker.

They dropped by to check on Kathy the day that she didn't show up for work. Still doesn't explain the red hairs on the clothing. But let's move forward. A week after finding Kathy's body, her car is finally located. It was abandoned in a parking lot nearby. They didn't find anything of significance inside the vehicle. Unfortunately, there wasn't anything to move forward on, and the case goes cold. No one is connected to Kathy's murder for two whole years. Two years go by without any answers.

Kathy's mother Nadine and sister Darlene are at their wits end. They decide to hire their own private investigator names Tom Bevins. He's actually known as Detective Death. He's the one that families go to when police cannot find their loved ones killers. They have faith in Tom. They think that he's going to be the one to track this killer down. The first thing he does is he goes back all the way down that line of any suspects that they had and he also wants all of the personal items that were collected from Kathy's apartment. There were personal items taken from Kathy's apartment and they've stored as evidence. During the two years that the case was cold, Bill was remarried to a woman

named Beverly and he and the children moved to Langley Air Force Base in Virginia. Dr. Pearl is still working as the director of the OOBGYN department at the hospital and no one has been charged in Kathy's murder. As Tom is sifting through all of Kathy's personal effects, a diary catches his eye. It's more of a date book because it's something that she used to keep track of her daily activities, her thoughts, everything. And it was very important to her. She never left home without it. She uses it every single day. Tom goes through every single entry and two of them have additional notations on them that stand out to him.

One said, went to Bill's ballgame. Lisa was there. By the way, some shows I watched said this woman's name was Lisa and others said Shannon. I'm going to go with Lisa since one of the reports that I've, relied on for factual information had other things correct while others did not and the one that was correct is Lisa so Lisa it is Tom wants to know who this Lisa is why would Kathy be writing down another woman's name and this was in the same time frame that things were going downhill in her marriage to Bill sometime in the spring of 1986 the other

passage that stood out simply stated quote numerous calls and nights out passing information around concerning the WAPS testing Bill has all the questions for the test, unquote. Tom has no idea what this test was, but I referred to it in the beginning. It's the weighted airman promotion test, which all military personnel must pass in order to gain promotion.

Armed with this new information, Tom tries to track down Lisa. His first stop, Lackland Air Force Base. Tom calls and asks if anyone knows if there is a Lisa there that was connected to Bill or Kathy. Sure enough, someone puts him in contact with a Lisa John. Lisa was a young cadet that was enlisted while Bill was a drill sergeant.

She was very pretty and she spent a lot of time around Bill. She was actually one of his biggest fans. It's true. She was one of those women at Bill's softball game that Kathy attended. The ones that were giving him a little more attention than usual and it was obvious to those around Bill that Lisa had a thing for him. Bill was off limits not only because he was married, married, but because of his high position. And that was exciting for a young woman like Lisa.

She actually made it her mission to somehow get close to him, like coming out to his softball games and cheering him on. And she was known to be wild and fun and exciting. And she would just come to these games and cheer him on, give him a big hug, tell him he's doing great, build up his ego. Actually, many people who didn't know Bill and Kathy. thought that Bill and Lisa were a couple. They were seen a number of times on and off base. So everyone was aware that Kathy was seeing Dr. Pearl, but this was the first time they heard that Bill was seeing anyone.

And now he's already remarried to yet another woman, so it's a little confusing. Tom gets in touch with Lisa and he tells her what the calls in reference to and she immediately gets emotional. She admits, I had a sexual relationship with Bill. There were times when Bill was going through things with Kathy and this woman would attempt to come to his rescue.

She inflated his ego and she built him up. And one afternoon she decided to make her move. She knew that Bill and Kathy had gone into an argument. So she invited Bill back to her place and that was the first time of many that they were intimate. Well, that's against the uniform code of military justice. Bill was not supposed to be engaging in this type of conduct. It could cost him his career. So they did what they could to keep it quiet.

And as fulfilling as it was to just fill this void that Bill had with his wife leaving him. Lisa was merely a distraction. It didn't fix anything. Bill's relationship with Lisa was just one of convenience. She was there and he just needed a warm body. However, Bill's relationship with Lisa was one of the things that pushed Kathy to divorce him.

Yes, I know. She was also having an affair, But it turns out as investigators were digging deeper and interviewing her coworkers and her family, Bill was not a nice man. Bill was controlling. He was belittling. He did this to her for years. They were married for eight years and most of those years consisted of Bill controlling every aspect of Kathy's life and she had had enough. Her family described her as very soft and caring and generous and sweet and all she wanted was a man to. love her. All she wanted was to raise her children and be with someone who actually cared. And it's sad that in the end, she falls for a guy who doesn't. But all the while, Bill is also having an affair.

When she witnessed the two of them together at that ball game, she knew in her gut. It was assigned to call it quits and move on. When Tom questioned Lisa, she immediately says that she's going to need an attorney. But with her attorney present, she begins to tell Tom what she knows. She says that Bill had told her he wanted to kill Kathy and it wasn't because of the affair. It was because of another kind of cheating. That's when Lisa shined light onto another passage from the diary, the one regarding Bill knowing the answers to the Wop's test. Lisa was insinuating that Bill was cheating on the exam. This is huge. It was too much for Tom to take on by himself since

Since these cheating allegations involve the Air Force, they had to call in Dr. Charles McDowell. He joins the investigation as part of the United States Air Force Office of Special Investigations. Together, him and Tom uncover even more information about Bill. For one, he took out a $315,000 life insurance policy on Kathy seven months before her murder. That time frame isn't as suspicious as some timeframes that we've talked about and that I've seen, but he was living off of this money with his new bride, Beverly, and they definitely flunted it. When they pressed Lisa about the Wob's answer, she caved, she had to. This was vital information and way bigger than they thought. It turns out that this man who walked around all high and mighty wasn't just a cheater in the bedroom.

He wasn't just a cheater when it came to ranking in the Air Force. He was running an entire cheating scam. Yes. Unreal. Apparently, he had gotten together with other men in the Air Force and they exchanged notes and now they were selling the answers for a high price. This scheme was spreading all over the United States. Lisa says that Kathy knew all about it. All it would take was one phone call to the base commander and it would ruin Bill's entire career. It would ruin his life. Apparently the first time that Kathy asked for a divorce, she didn't have any leverage to make it happen. But the second time, she was always armed with this incriminating information about her husband.

And there's no doubt that he gave into all of her demands in lieu of her revealing his illegal operation. They were running a cheating ring. And they were charging a lot. I'm talking this was like a whole career in and of itself on the side. When they asked Lisa if she thinks Bill killed Kathy, she says, you know what?

You better find Nicholas Richards. She tells them that he's involved in the cheating ring as well. Well, the cheating scandal is exposed. Nicholas is now facing a dishonorable discharge and he's a mess. He doesn't waste any time confessing everything that he knows. The first thing he says is that he has nothing to do with her murder, but he knows who did and he helped move the body. Oh my God.

Wait till you hear this. Wait till you hear what he tells these investigators. He tells them that he talked to Bill on the phone the weekend before June 9th, 1986. Nicholas says that Bill calls him and asks him to watch the kids so that he can meet with Kathy to discuss some things about the divorce. So Nick takes the kids to dinner on Sunday. And when this man brings the kids back, Bill's like, can you tuck them in? Can you put them to bed? And after that, this is just, I can't believe that people can just do this stuff. But he calls Nick into a room, he pulls him aside, and he's standing in front of a small wooden cedar chest.

And he slowly opens it up. And he reveals Kathy's dead body. And he just looks at him and he goes, you know what you need to do. Because Kathy was going to expose our scheme. She had to go. And since Nicholas is Bill's partner in this scandal, he feels like it is his response. to dispose of her. So he waits until it's dark. He drives out of the city. He opens up the back of his vehicle. And he dumps her on the side of the road and leaves those clothes folded beside her. However, he kept that wooden box and he tells detectives that there are bloodstains in there. Now it makes sense. Remember Kathy's legs and arms how they were twisted into the same? a very unnatural position. It was because she was crammed into this small box. And once a rigormortis

set in, she was already in this awkward position and there was nothing they could do to unravel her. This poor woman, that's horrific. And if that's not bad enough, they call in Bill's daughter. Now she's nine years old. And when she's being interviewed again, she tells them that she knows who killed her mom. It was her dad because he wasn't where he said he was on the night that mommy died. She said that she woke up in the middle of the night and he was gone and so was his car. This seems like it would be enough, but it's all circumstantial. They need a confession. And Nick agrees to wear a wire and he makes a deal with the Air Force.

In exchange for getting information or a confession from Bill, he doesn't have to serve any time. Like he's basically going to get away with his part in all this. Well, they agree. And he wears a wire and he calls Bill up and he says, you know what? We need to talk about this scandal because I'm being demoted. They meet in person, but no matter what Nick says to try to get Bill to crack, he just changes the conversation.

And Bill even tells Nicholas, you know what, you're looking rough. I'll take care of everything. He hands him an envelope of cash and tells him to get out of the country for a little while. They've got nothing concrete until Nick admits he still has. has the wooden chest that he placed Kathy's body in. And that is when the conversation changes. Bill freaks out. He's like, you need to get rid of it.

You need to get rid of that now. So this is the evidence that the authorities need. They've got their killer. All along, it was Kathy's estranged husband, Bill. He would do anything to keep his ego intact, anything not to be found out, anything to stay on top, even kill the mother of his children, but wait. You have to hear what happens next. On July 10th, 1989, three years after her death, investigators arrest Bill for the murder

of his wife. The trial is set for June 20th, 1990, but before the trial starts, Bill pleads guilty because he wants to avoid the death penalty. He wrote out a stipulation of facts outlining this chilling chain of events that led to his wife's murder. And I'm going to tell them to you. And I want you to tell me what you think, because I have my thoughts. But here's what he says happened. Bill said he asked Kathy to come over to his place to go through some family photos. He's insinuating that none of this was planned.

When she got there and she was going through them, they got in an argument because she said she wanted to cut Bill out of the photos. And apparently she took a pair of scissors and started to. to do so right in front of him. That's when he said he got enraged because of everything, because of the cheating, because of the doctor, it was all going through his head, the divorce, the custody of the kids, the leverage that Kathy had and she flaunted around about exposing everything his cheating scheme and he just snapped. He says I didn't mean to kill her. I just started to attack her and he knew that she was going to go to his superiors and he was going to be charged with battery and everything

was going to end anyway and it was going to end bad. And when this realization hit him, he just went all the way and he ended up strangling her with a cord. He even had intercourse with her to make it look like it was a random attack. Bill was sentenced to life in prison, but in an unexpected turn of events, the military decides that they're going to take over the case. And they gave him 60 years instead at the disciplinary barracks at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas. Wow. He goes from the death penalty being on the table to life in prison to the military taking over and getting 60 years and he was eligible for parole since 1998 and I hate to tell you this. I really do. But he was actually released just last year in May of 2021. So Bill walks free only serving 32 years. Nicholas Richards,

didn't get charged with anything. The only thing that happened to him was he was dishonorably discharged, and I'm shocked. This beautiful young mother of two is taken away for reasons that should not warrant murder. It's true that she made mistakes, but that should never be the answer. She left behind her two precious little children, and they will forever live with the fact that they lost both of their parents when Bill made that fateful decision to take Kathy's life. What are your thoughts on this one? On everything. The reason I asked specifically about the cheating was because in my last video about Latrice, which you can find in the description box and also posted here at the end of the video, I got a lot of comments that were victim blaming. They said, you know,

Latrice cheated. She deserved it. If she didn't go over there and cheat on her husband, then she wouldn't have died. I don't think that's the case here. Bill was the cheater. He was cheating on the test. He was running an illegal scheme for his own power and his own ego and really for himself

because he wouldn't really let Kathy do much of anything. Kathy, according to Bill, wasn't killed because she was cheating. It was because she was going to expose what he was doing. So I want your thoughts. Murder's never the answer in my eyes It's another sad one for me anytime children lose their mother And I thank you so very much for being here with me today again

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