True Crime with Kimbyr - Tinder Date Turns Deadly: The Controversial Case of Gable Tostee & Warriena Wright: Part 3

Episode Date: August 25, 2025

In the final part of this True Crime with Kimbyr series, Kimbyrleigha explores the courtroom drama, verdict, and the lasting impact of the Gable Tostee and Warriena Wright case. With intense media cov...erage and heated debates about justice, the trial raised difficult questions about responsibility, consent, and the dangers of online dating. Did the outcome deliver justice for Warriena, or did it leave even more unanswered questions? True Crime with Kimbyr brings closure to this haunting story while examining what we can learn from one of Tinder’s most infamous tragedies. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I think it's interesting when he says, why does this keep happening to me? Why do all of these things keep happening to him? Why do you think these things keep happening to him? Unsurprisingly, Gable's dad believes his son's version of events, and he tells him to stay on the line while he drives over there to go pick him up from outside the pizza place. And he drives him back to their family's gated community
Starting point is 00:00:21 on the Gold Coast. Still, they have not told any authorities that it was Gable who'd been serving the small woman an excessive amount of alcohol, and who was keeping her captive in his apartment, holding her down and holding her phone hostage as she begged to leave, and then begged her not to throw her out on the balcony.
Starting point is 00:00:45 Why put her out there? Why not just put her out the front door? If you really were trying to allow her to leave, why? And why would you even make that remark that you should have already thrown her over? While Gable got into a nice safe bed that night, emergency services were struggling to identify the woman
Starting point is 00:01:04 that they had found outside on the sidewalk below his building. It is gut-wrenching. She had sustained horrific injuries. She was completely unrecognizable, even if they had known who she was. They found no wallet, no phone, and no ID in the pocket of her jeans. When the crime scene investigation was completed,
Starting point is 00:01:24 Maurena's body was removed for an autopsy. She was found to have more than 80 separate injuries. The pathologist stated that her body had folded over itself, that her head was bent over her torso and fragments of her genes were found embedded into her skull fractures. It makes me sick to think about that, that she's someone's daughter, someone's sister and friend,
Starting point is 00:01:49 and it was so preventable. And going back to this autopsy, the only fluid that the pathologist could test was in her, her eye because the blood in her chest cavity was contaminated by the impact of her falling 14 stories. The fluid from her eye was found to have a blood alcohol level that was three times the legal limit for driving. We know that she's only about 5'2 and 125 pounds, but the pathologist couldn't even determine her height because of the significant trauma to her body. At that point when they were examining her, they did find some older-looking
Starting point is 00:02:27 scars that looked like they could have been self-inflicted on her wrists and her thighs and her chest. We'll get to that later. Meanwhile, officers were still attempting to identify her. They spoke to residents in the apartment who had called the emergency services to begin with, and they identified the 14th floor as the balcony that she had fallen from. They were able to gain access to Gable's apartment and it was empty and there was no sign of its owner. However, there were personal items belonging to Rorina like her purse that was found, which led them to her identity. That afternoon, Gable handed himself into the police, accompanied by his lawyer, and under the advice of his counsel, he refused to provide a statement about what had happened that night,
Starting point is 00:03:11 but they did take away his cell phone. Only three days after Rarina died, Gable was back posting on the bodybuilding forum. He wrote this at 10.21 a.m., quote, I've been advised not to go into details, but all I will say is that I absolutely did not cause this girl to fall, and then I'm devastated about what happened to her, end quote. But then, just a little while later at 11.18 a.m., he posted again saying, quote, fact is, I've taken home probably 150 girls from clubs over the last few years.
Starting point is 00:03:45 When you go out often to the same places and get drunk and talk to girls, you're bound to get noticed and hated on. And people gossip. Eventually it turns into Chinese whispers, which were his words, by the way, where people have a completely false impression of you. Most people who know me have been completely supportive. It's those who don't know me at all who assume the worst, end quote. He could not stop posting because 13 minutes later, at 1131, he adds this, quote, my reputation has already been destroyed without me saying anything at all.
Starting point is 00:04:18 It's nothing I haven't already posted in this thread, but that's all I have to say for now, end quote. While Gable defended himself online, officers continued their investigation to Rorina's death. There were some pictures taken of his apartment that I want to show you. This is his living room and dining area with the kitchen. Just one space told you it was kind of modest and small. Here's the couch. Here are those white rocks that she was apparently throwing at him that instigated him or hurt him or upset him. They're tiny rocks.
Starting point is 00:04:53 There are items on the floor. This is her purse that she took with her. Looks like maybe the telescope is on the table. And there are other items just kind of strewn around. In his bedroom, the bed is unmade. The sheets are kind of balled up. There's that same pillow I showed you from before. And this right here is what the balcony looked like.
Starting point is 00:05:15 There was a pair of his shoes that were outside. You can see the taining bed and that's about it. Now, the officers and the investigators spoke to the woman who lived in the apartment directly below Gables. You know what she said? She told them that two months earlier, she heard another female yelling no the exact same way. That's interesting and I am not surprised. Four days after Rorina died, Gable was charged with her murder and remanded into custody. And three months later, he was granted bail with strict conditions that he was not allowed to consume alcohol.
Starting point is 00:05:50 he wasn't allowed to go on social media or go on his favorite app, Tinder. But there was no restriction on him for posting on the place where he had his online presence where everything began, the bodybuilding forum. Now, I want to let you know that an investigation had been going on this whole time. They had done an extensive search of his apartment. They had gone and kind of recreated what it would have been like if Warina had tried to make her way over the balcony. there was an officer who actually hung from the balcony above to show how far it was because we will get to this, but they wanted to know if it was possible for someone to escape his balcony
Starting point is 00:06:30 and get down to the next one. Perhaps if they weren't under the influence, but it is a very dangerous. But here are police kind of looking into all of that. But back to the post in the bodybuilding forum, Gable had a post titled, quote, regarding the balcony tragedy." End quote. And he gave his perspective on all the events that transpired. And he also explains away every piece of evidence that might be against him. Now his post is over 2,000 words.
Starting point is 00:07:04 If I were to read it word for word, it would take me a while. But on the other hand, I find this to be one of the most important parts of this case. It's his version of events. But I'm also going to be putting it on the screen so you can, follow along, but I'm only going to highlight the parts that I feel are the most important, so I'm not going to be reading this verbatim. He starts out by saying that he thinks it's time he spoke out about the events that have happened over the last few months. He calls it a tragic death of Warina Wright. He goes on to explain that he feels the fact that he was silent, has tied
Starting point is 00:07:38 his hands, and there's been so many misconceptions and untruths spread in the media and in the public. So he's attempting to set the record straight. He goes on to express how to the difficult it's been for him. And I'm not surprised he'd play the victim here. He said that Warina's death was the most tragic and distressing event he's ever experienced. I think his choice of the word experienced is interesting. What about that he was a part of, that he influenced, that he instigated? Those would be more accurate words from what I read, saw, and heard throughout my own on research. In his version of how it's made him feel, he explained that knowing that he was the last person to have seen her alive has permanently scarred him and how he wishes he could go back in time
Starting point is 00:08:27 and prevent it, that for at least a week, those were his words, a week after what happened, he's been so overwhelmed that he's not able to smile or laugh. Woe is him. This woman's dead. She won't ever laugh or smile ever again. And I wondered if he even realized how ignorant all of sounded. But he tried to even empathize with Warina's family by saying that even though he hasn't a chance to speak with him yet, it pains him to think about the loss and suffering they must be going through. And he goes into blaming the media for the way that things have been handled, saying that they have no respect or dignity for the people involved. And of course, he's including himself in that regard, saying that the media only cares about a story and they need a villain for their story.
Starting point is 00:09:16 So they picked him. Well, that's pretty inaccurate. But he calls the reports misleading and exploiting him, that the media made him to be an evil monster, which he says couldn't be further from the truth. But even from some of the things that we have read, that he wrote with his own words in those forums before Haurina died, I think it speaks for itself,
Starting point is 00:09:41 not to mention the way he would speak and treat an act towards women. and even toured Orina on his own recording. But now for his versions of the events of that night. He says it started out relaxed and fun. They matched on Tinder. They decided to meet for drinks while she was on a vacation. And at first, they got along great. But as the night continued, her behavior became strange
Starting point is 00:10:06 and increasingly aggressive. He said he didn't know if she found it amusing, but he thought she was out of hand. He skips over the fact that he wasn't giving her phone back and pumping her with more and more moonshine and that he bought and supplied all the alcohol that night. But he makes it out as though Warina started to hit him and taunt him out out of nowhere. He goes on to say that she began throwing his things around and trashing his apartment, which I find extreme. We saw the pictures of his apartment. He hardly had anything in his apartment
Starting point is 00:10:38 to be trashed. And we heard what went on. Actually, one of the first complaints came from Maureena herself, not him. It was her saying she wanted to leave, but she didn't want to leave without her phone. She wanted it back. They had already been bantering a bit before she told him that something that happened had really hurt her vagina. And Gable can be heard laughing at her. Remember that? But in his version, it was just this psycho girl trashing his apartment and trying to beat him up. This man is much larger than her. I hardly doubt that's as accurate as it really was. And remember, there was a time before things took a turn where this man was still trying to get her to go back into his bed again. Remember, he says that he'll do anything she wants and become her sex slave.
Starting point is 00:11:26 But that's when it seems like it caused friction between them. It's like she rejected that advance because that's when things got worse and we know that he doesn't like to be told no. And that's when there's the sound of a struggle. And he says, all right, that's enough. You've worn out your welcome. She had already asked him to leave but wanted her phone. He could have easily helped her into a taxi or an Uber or whatever, but he did no such thing. But in his post, he claims that the next two hours was him trying to placate her and calm her down.
Starting point is 00:11:57 Really? So we didn't hear him basically covering her mouth with his hand or pushing her face into the carpet or making it hard for her to breathe because she was gasping for breath. That's calming her down. Oh, and in his version, it was him. that wanted her to leave from the start. He makes it out like he's some kind of lovely host saying he's always happy to have girls come over to his apartment and stay the night. But her behavior became overbearing and he decided he wanted
Starting point is 00:12:29 her to leave. Well, why not just give this girl her belongings and walk her down? When he does finally tell her he wants her out, Orina replies okay, but instead of just leading the way like a gentleman and walking her out of his apartment, you hear the sound of her gasping even more. Well, he claims that she tried to swing something at him, and that's what that sound of the alleged choking was, really? He said he never deliberately tried to choke her with his hands around her neck, but he was merely trying to take the weapon from her. But what he does add is that if he wanted to choke her out, it probably wouldn't have been that hard. Really? Okay, Captain obvious, you're much bigger than her. You're much stronger than her. You're
Starting point is 00:13:11 much stronger than her. Of course it would have been easy to subdue her. You were. But he claims he never wanted to hurt her. And he even sings his own praises by adding, quote, a less forgiving man could have quite conceivably exercised less restraint and retaliated violently, end quote. Retaliated.
Starting point is 00:13:32 She's a young woman who wants to leave your apartment. Her phone is being held captive. She's scared. Why not call for help if you really thought, she was trying to hurt you. Why not call the police or a security guard? Instead, we hear her voice becoming more and more muffled. Until we hear him say those all two telling words,
Starting point is 00:13:55 that she's lucky he hasn't chucked her off his balcony. All the while, this poor girl can be heard gasping in the background. And remember when he called her a bad girl and that's why he wouldn't let her leave? He attempts to explain this away in his post by saying that he was just drunk and he he's not that eloquent and he's not good with his words and it was the heat of the moment. So he called her names because he was so frustrated that she wouldn't leave. So remember when I wondered why not just take her to the front door? Well, he had an explanation for that.
Starting point is 00:14:25 He was doing the math, so to speak. He said that this struggle they were going through was around two to three meters from his balcony door. So that's approximately six to nine feet away. That's not exactly close. So I'm a little confused about this next part, but he explains that his front door is a like one meter further than they were to the balcony. And then his front door has this automatic closer and lock, which he would have to flick and then hold the door open,
Starting point is 00:14:52 trying to force this girl out. But why do I tend to believe that had he just opened his front door, she would have willingly left if he would have at least given her phone back, and she wasn't being smothered. But he claims that leading her out the front door wasn't an option because of how difficult it would have been. We're talking about a tiny girl. Again, I'm saying it over and over.
Starting point is 00:15:11 again. He admitted it wouldn't be that hard to hold her down, but it's difficult to just get her out the front door. Instead, he put her on the balcony, which he said was better because he could keep an eye on her through the glass until she calmed down. Or he could call security or the police. But I'm still confused. Why is he trapping her like an animal instead of a cage instead of just releasing her to the hallway? This girl was screaming for her life 31 times, but he doesn't care. But he tells everyone in this post that never in his wildest imagination did he expect that after closing that door
Starting point is 00:15:49 and turning around for 10 seconds that she would jump over the railing and disappear. He claims she never tried to get back inside the apartment. Well, if there's a monster on the other side of those doors, it would be pretty hard to feel like that was a good option. At 219, you can hear that door locked And by 221, Gable's already on the phone with his lawyer. Seconds after the muffled scream is caught on the recording.
Starting point is 00:16:17 The men below said she did attempt to get back on the other side. But she slipped. But according to Gable, he could not have predicted that within minutes of her being put outside, she fell off the balcony. He said, quote, it's not as if I locked her there and left her for hours, end quote. No, but you caused her to be so fear.
Starting point is 00:16:39 that she felt trapped with no way out. The last thing she cried to the people below her is that she just wanted to go home. That's all she wanted. It's just like those girls that Gable mentioned in the forum that just wanted to leave and he would get aggressive trying to sleep with them. He wasn't having it.
Starting point is 00:16:58 If you come over, he expects to get his way. And why call your lawyer seconds after her scream and not attempt to help? He was the closest person to her, but he says, quote, I quickly realized that it would be extremely foolish for me to go back out on the balcony in case she had indeed fallen and someone saw me standing near the edge. The only sensible thing I could think to do at the time was call my lawyer who would know what to do.
Starting point is 00:17:25 Of course the call didn't go through, end quote. So he didn't want to appear to have anything to do with her death. That's how I interpret that statement. He wanted to cover his own butt. He also claimed he never fled. He just went down there to see what happened. And that's when he saw all the police lights and he was terrified, exhausted, intoxicated, and disoriented.
Starting point is 00:17:45 But watch the video and hear the way he speaks. He doesn't seem to be as intoxicated as Rorina. He seems to be walking just fine. He's not even stumbling. He seems very calculated. But I want to point something else out. He wasn't dead. Yet he knew she probably was.
Starting point is 00:18:05 And instead of offering any help whatsoever, he said that he knew if he walked over to the police, that he would be held under suspicion without legal representation. And he added that, that's a situation that nobody wants to be in. So he resorted to leaving the building and calling his dad. Resorted. It's another very interesting choice of a word. Resorted is like he had no other choice. He also tells the readers, it's easy for them to imagine what they might have done in the situation
Starting point is 00:18:35 but it's impossible for them to know how they would react. But I beg to differ, because most kind, caring, patient, and genuinely nice people, man or woman, would not have treated another human being the way he's admitted to in the past, unrelated to the situation, but certainly not the way he acted towards Marina either. I think we can all state with certainty we wouldn't have chosen a lot of things that he did. He even tried to explain away him eating that slice of... pizza. He made it all about him about how anxious and hungry and intoxicated he was. It's all he could find when he waited for dear old daddy to come rescue him. It's really all about
Starting point is 00:19:19 pity on him and he overlooks the real victim here. But maybe some of you have different perspectives and that's good because I'm always open to them. Because like I stated in the beginning, this is a case that has a lot of people torn. I expect there to be a lot of back and forth feelings, even I have them. Still, there's a lot about Gable that just doesn't sit right with me. He wasn't done. He went on to talk about how everything has been grossly misrepresented and that the media has vilified him to the point that his character and image has been destroyed beyond repair. But that's all he seemed to ever care about. From the moment he came on that forum was his image. He ends with saying that he's innocent.
Starting point is 00:20:05 And that any level-headed person can look at all the facts objectively and see that. But the media had definitely come out with their own facts, that they obtained from women who had gone on dates with him in the past, from club owners, from people in the community, who witnessed his harassment and people that live nearby. There were plenty of reports that he used his telescope and even a drone to spy on women down below his apartment like an animal looking for prey. But he addressed those claims.
Starting point is 00:20:36 He said he never prayed on drunk girls. He used his telescope and his drone for simple leisure purposes. But we know this man only has one hobby, sleeping with women. So was it really that far off? Oh, and after his phone was confiscated, he got a new one right away. One night after Warina died, and he was back on Tinder. And people saw that.
Starting point is 00:21:01 But he claimed he was only there to deactivate his account. not to look for another girl to sleep with. And he was so childish in this next statement. He said, I didn't even go out to socialize even once in the week following Warina's death. Like, that means something. He wants praise. Like, oh, Gable, we're so impressed.
Starting point is 00:21:23 You can stay inside for a week after such a horrible tragedy has happened to you. He even tried to explain away his prior run-ins with the law calling them minor. And he ends by saying, that he's currently staying with his parents until he's settled, and that he has a long road ahead of him. And he knows he's innocent, and he will fight these charges.
Starting point is 00:21:48 So what do you make of all that? I know it was a lot. But what do you think? Gable wasn't allowed on social media or Tinder due to his bail conditions, but there was nothing stopping him from enjoying the privileged lifestyle that he was raised in. He would share pictures on the bodybuilding, form of himself smiling, while enjoying rounds of golf at a member's only course in the Gold Coast, and relaxing by the water in his gated community. Not long after Gable was granted bail on the murder charges, he appeared in court in relation to the driving incident. Remember that? The one that happened
Starting point is 00:22:23 at Splendor in the Grass. He was jailed for six months. From his cell in jail, he would send handwritten notes about that experience. He shared that he drank so much to drown his feelings, and even sent a note apologizing to the police for his dangerous driving that night. When he was clocked going 121 miles per hour, remember that? But his words really hold no power when his actions speak so much louder. But I want to jump to the trial. It's very interesting.
Starting point is 00:22:56 And I want to tell you the outcome and I want to get your thoughts. Two years passed before Gable's murder trial got underway. He appeared in court looking very different. from the person in his pictures on the bodybuilding forum and his Facebook photos from before Warina's death. He gained a considerable amount of weight and replaced his signature low-cut shirts with a suit. And of course, I'm sure this was on the advice of counsel.
Starting point is 00:23:22 But after opening statements, the prosecution set forth their case and the prosecution is called the crown over there. And their primary argument was that even though Gable was inside the apartment, when Marina went over the balcony, He had directly contributed to her fateful choice to attempt to escape by climbing over the railing. He didn't need to be outside forcing her over the balcony physically
Starting point is 00:23:45 because the mental torment he put her through had done it for him. In their perspective, she was in fear for her life, and she felt the only option that she had to get away from him was to climb over the balcony attempt to get to the apartment below. And that way she could call for help and get far away as she could. The Crown explained that the drinking, the threats, the violence, and the locking her outside, all of that had made her feel so unsafe and trapped that she saw no other choice but to climb over that railing to get away, and that Gable provoked her death, which makes him culpable.
Starting point is 00:24:23 They argued that the sound of Warina gasping for air and her muffled voice proves that Gable had strangled her at least once in the minutes before he locked her outside. He had threatened not to let her leave the apartment, and even though she tried to stop him from putting her out on that balcony in the first place, she was desperately trying to go away from him. He wouldn't stop. In other words, this man had intimidated her
Starting point is 00:24:48 into resorting to what she believed was the lesser evil, the balcony, and it ended in her death. The premise of this argument is actually not unfounded. There was a case in Australia in 1986, where a woman fell from a six floor window to her death because she was trying to get away from her abusive partner. He claimed that she killed herself after an argument and he was just trying to help. However, the position of her body and prior injuries as well as evidence of a fight inside their
Starting point is 00:25:16 apartment demonstrated that she'd gone out that window to escape his violence. And ultimately, that man was found guilty of her murder. John and I covered another case from Australia where a woman named Lisa Harnam was tormented by her husband for years. And he too isolated her, trapped her, and she chose the same fate to run out the balcony of their high-rise. Her last moments were recorded on an outdoor camera of their apartment, and she ended up plummeting to her death. But that case was much more complicated from the one I mentioned in 1986 and from the one we're examining here with Gable and Warina. But just like the perpetrator in 1986 case, when he blamed the woman for her choice to
Starting point is 00:26:01 go out the window, Gable's defense lawyers blame the whole circumstances of her death on the victim. And there's a lot of victim blaming in this case that I've seen online too. It was Waurina's choice to drink, her choice to get agitated, throw things at Gable, and ultimately her choice to climb over that balcony. And they argued that Gable had no other choice, but to lock her on the balcony to protect himself from her. But I think we know he had many other choices. His defense asserted that Gable never put his hands on Maurena except in self-defense. He also never strangled her or put his hands around her neck. They argued that there's no evidence to support that,
Starting point is 00:26:41 but the pathologist confirmed that strangulation doesn't always leave a mark. And we know that because of the condition of her body, sadly, there was no way to even gauge that. In the defense's point of view, the recording proved that Gable didn't threaten or intimidate Warina. They said it was quite the opposite. He had actually acted with reasonable force to de-escalate the situation, and he couldn't have foreseen that she would climb over that railing. They went on to say the only reasonable explanation for her trying to escape
Starting point is 00:27:10 was if someone was chasing her with a knife, which they say hadn't happened. In their view, worrying his actions were utterly irrational. But how do they know that he wasn't chasing her? Or wasn't using a weapon to intimidate her? We don't have evidence of that either. And you can threaten someone without a weapon. Just your size and actions can be threatening. The jury was comprised of six men and seven women
Starting point is 00:27:38 who listened to that full 199 minutes of audio, including that infamous line about him throwing her over the balcony. And the defense lawyers also called Marino's mental health into question. Remember, I talked about those scars that the pathologist found on her arms and other parts of her body. Well, the defense claimed that they were proof that she had caught herself in the past and self-inflicted these wounds, and that she was unstable and had willingly thrown herself off the balcony
Starting point is 00:28:08 as an act of a mentally unwell person rather than someone in fear for their life. That's pretty harsh. The evidence phase of this trial took six days, and when it came time for deliberations, they ended up lasting almost as long as this trial itself. During that period, the jury asked a judge several questions, mostly relating to what constituted a disorderly person, and whether putting someone on a balcony counted as removing them from their property.
Starting point is 00:28:35 On the second day of deliberations, the jury said they were not able to deliver a verdict because some of the jurors couldn't be swayed from their opinion. The judge ordered that they continued to try to reach a unanimous verdict. Finally, after four days and seven additional questions, the jury announced they had finally reached a consensus and were ready to return their verdict. I wonder what you would have chosen. I usually say that the jury has way more evidence than we will ever have, and ultimately it's their job to determine guilt or innocence.
Starting point is 00:29:09 They decided that Gable was not guilty of murder and not guilty of manslaughter. He was acquitted on all charges. What are your initial thoughts on this? The reactions around the courtroom were varied. Gable's mother cried out in relief while Warrina's mother had to be. a tissue and she put it towards her eyes as she cried. Gable himself leaned back and clapped his hands and nodded his head, which I thought was very insensitive. As he left that courtroom, the comments from the gallery were divided as well. One person yelled, we knew you were innocent mate. Another person
Starting point is 00:29:46 shouted that he was a pig. This sentiment was echoed online with many posts saying that Gable was the victim in all of this. They claimed that Warina's physical actions amounted to violence and an attack on him and that Gable should have never been charged in the first place. They asserted that Warina would have been in danger whether he put her on the balcony or kicked her out of his apartment because she was so unstable. But how so? How is the hallway of an apartment the same as a balcony 14 stories up in the dark trapped? But I'm open to hearing all of your thoughts and opinions. Other people claimed that the verdict is wrong and argued with the perspective that Warina was in fear for her life
Starting point is 00:30:28 after Gable gave her all of that homemade liquor and attempted to strangle her and not let her leave. Immediately after reading the verdict, the judge announced that he had come extremely close to declaring a mistrial in this case because there was a juror that they found had done things that were considered misconduct. And I found this interesting.
Starting point is 00:30:51 I'm not going to go too far into it. But all the jurors have their phones taken away from them for deliberation. However, before that, someone in the jury posted multiple pictures on her Instagram. She would like hold a cup of coffee and talk about deciding Gable's fate. In various photos, she shared what it was like to be juror on a high profile trial. And she also tagged her location as being at the Supreme Court of Queensland. I'm showing them on the screen, but one of them had a caption that said, I snagged a nasty one, so it's a bit full on." When she was asked what case she was on, she replied that it was a murder trial and less than pretty.
Starting point is 00:31:33 This post had been viewed several thousand times and shared on social media, and then finally someone in the public reported her to the court. I don't know about Australia, but here in the US, jurors cannot discuss the case, not even with their partners. And if they're asked what case it is, they're not supposed to say, and they're only allowed to talk about it after they're given permission by the judge after the trial is over. Well, of course, the juror was admonished by the judge, but no further action was taken. Despite Gable being acquitted, it's important to know that the jury in this trial were not told about his history with women, or all those posts on the bodybuilding forum, or his drinking behaviors, or his other charges, or anything that I shared
Starting point is 00:32:15 in this case about Gable's past. His defense lawyers were able to successfully argue that it would have they've been prejudicial. So remember when I said I usually say jurors know more than we ever will? Well, within the four walls of that courtroom. But with all the rules of evidence, it can kind of seem unfair that they aren't privy to things that we know about who this man really was. All they knew about was the actual night of Horena's death, which begs the question, if they had known more about his history, would they have reached a different verdict? And does this history really have any relevance to the events leading up to Marina's death? Her family believes it does. Her family traveled to Australia to attend the trial. And listening to your daughter's final moments
Starting point is 00:33:03 would have been one of the most difficult things the parent could ever do. But to add insult to injury, the judge ordered that that recording of those moments could be released. Marina's mother complained to the court that the recordings should only have been played in the privacy of the courtroom and not released. She asked for the audio not to be released, but she was overruled. She said, quote, I did not want to remember her like that. I feel my family has been disrespected by the judge's ruling to release the audio tape to the media. I do not want to hear my daughter screaming, no, no, no, no, no, no, end quote. After the acquittal, Maurena's family and friends declined to be interviewed, even when people offered to pay them. They just wanted to be left alone in
Starting point is 00:33:48 peace. I want to close with the aftermath. After Gable's acquittal, his lawyer claimed he received several inquiries from agents and production companies who wanted to make his story, his story, into a film. And one even suggested that Russell Crowe play Gable himself, which I find laughable. But like Gable said, people wanted a story. But nonetheless, this would be his version because poor Warina wasn't there to share her side. And he stayed quiet for a while, but not that long, despite never answering any questions from the police or even taking the stand at court. He granted 60 Minutes TV show, an exclusive interview. And allegedly they paid him $250,000. That's insane. And he doesn't even need the money. He also chose to change his name to Eric Thomas, you know, because his
Starting point is 00:34:46 previous womanizing persona and could be killer, wouldn't have probably gone over well. But changing his name gave him free reign to return to social media, and he did so with a vengeance. Right after Rorina's death, someone in the public set up a page to discuss whether or not he was guilty of murder. There were 5,000 members, and they probably never expected Gable himself to join in the discussion but after his acquittal he did just that I'm not surprised I think he likes all the attention now he didn't provide any new information but instead he would just call users out for things like spelling and grammar mistakes and he would go around just mocking people he asked one female poster quote do your bitter angry
Starting point is 00:35:35 delusions help you deal with a constant rejection you no doubt experience from men end quote it's clear that Gable's previous thoughts on women's value being only sexual nature hadn't changed. In other posts, he called women fembots and complained that all they wanted was men's money. He would ask things like, why do so many girls sexually objectify themselves by posting a ton of half-naked pictures and then complain when they get treated like sexual objects? That's like wearing a clown suit and complaining that nobody takes you seriously. Those were his words. He also tried to rejoined Tinder under his new name.
Starting point is 00:36:14 His new profile showed him wearing a Make Australia Great Again cap, and another shows him with a lay around his neck. But when Facebook users became aware that he was on Tinder again trying to pick up women under a new name, they posted warnings that women should avoid him. They would use hashtags like don't date Eric and stay safe. Well, Gable responded to all this by saying that they were defaming. him. He was like, I'm acquitted and ethically, I should not be obliged to tell people I did anything
Starting point is 00:36:48 wrong because he didn't. In 2017, he even filed a lawsuit against the government in Australia alleging that he was wrongfully arrested by police in 2014 and that they used excessive force. He already had enough money, like I said, but he was now suing for $300,000 Australian dollars. I wasn't able to find the outcome of this case because I don't have access to Australian documents, but I figured I would mention it. In the years since Warina's death, Gable hasn't been been able to keep himself out of trouble either. A New Year's Eve in 2020, he was removed from a woman's house after she stated that he was making her feel uncomfortable. Just like he and Marina, the pair met on Tinder, went back to her place where they continued drinking. But then the woman claims that he
Starting point is 00:37:34 started talking about herina's death, and she asked him to leave, but he wouldn't, so she had to call the police. He wasn't arrested, but he was taken to the local police station where a member of his family picked him up, rescued him again. The following year, an ex-partner of his came forward and said that she received a ton of nasty text and voice messages after she broke up with him. And she went on to post videos to YouTube sharing her experience. If I can find those, I will link them below.
Starting point is 00:38:02 I have not watched them, but that is interesting, and I would like to hear from her. But don't go looking for them now. Just wait because I have some final thoughts. and questions for you as well. In 2022, Gable was back in court. He was 35 at this time and found naked in the driver's seat behind the wheel of a car that had crashed on October 13th.
Starting point is 00:38:22 He had now established his new identity as Eric Thomas, so that's how articles are written in the media about this incident. But he was said to be unstable, bloodshot eyes, slurring his speech. And the witness said they saw his car drift over the median, struck a concrete barrier, cut across another car, and then plow into the bushes. He refused to do a breathalyzer or a blood test at the police station.
Starting point is 00:38:47 The judge ended up giving him 12 months of probation, and I think a charge of like $350. But he was banned from driving. His license was taken away during that time. Despite Gable's acquittal, there are some lingering questions in this case, of course. Like why Horina screamed no for 46 seconds. 46 seconds might not seem that long, but it is a notable amount of time to be feeling so petrified and to maintain the intensity that she was screaming at. Set your timer and see. Remember, Gable's balcony was quite small,
Starting point is 00:39:23 and according to him, he was just on the other side of the glass, so he would have been able to clearly see her and hear her. Several members of the Facebook group that I mentioned earlier also pointed out that when Gable was seen on CCTV cameras exiting the building, he was carrying that silver object in his hand, and it's never been identified. And interestingly, one of the questions that the jurors had was, what was that? But the judge ruled that it was irrelevant.
Starting point is 00:39:50 But was it, though? What if it was a knife or even a gun? Even with these questions and knowing what we know about Gable's problematic history with women, is there enough evidence to say the jury got it wrong? you tell me. The events of that night viewed through the lens of his past behavior, the social dynamics. It suggests a man struggling with way deeper issues, someone that should not be trusted alone with a woman in my perspective. While the jury made the decision based on the evidence presented, the nuances of things
Starting point is 00:40:24 like human psychology and interpersonal relationships suggest a scenario where multiple truths can coexist. And of course, I want to know what you think is the closest to the truth about that night. I think the best way to wrap this up is not to make a final judgment on Gable's character or the jury's decision, but to recognize just how complex it is to figure out guilt and intent and moral responsibility in such a messy situation like this. A situation that could have been prevented. Forerina did not have to die that night. And I am so sorry that she did.
Starting point is 00:41:02 I'm so sorry to her family and all of her loved ones. And like always, thank you so very much for watching this series. I hope you stay tuned for my next Evil Minds video or just my next video. Maybe give one of these videos another chance. And also please share this with someone that you think could benefit from knowing the information in this case. I will see you in my next video. Bye.

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