TrueLife - A Conversation W/François Vix: Beauty, Health, & the Immune System

Episode Date: January 14, 2026

One on One Video Call W/George https://tidycal.com/georgepmonty/60-minute-meetingSupport the show:https://www.paypal.me/Truelifepodcast?locale.x=en_USKeywordsbeauty, health, SOD, immune system, dermatology, Francois Vix, beauty industry, skincare, natural products, holistic healthSummaryIn this enlightening conversation, George and Francois Vix delve into the intricate relationship between beauty, health, and the immune system. Francois shares his extensive experience in the beauty industry, emphasizing that true beauty transcends mere decoration and is deeply rooted in health and well-being. The discussion highlights the significance of superoxide dismutase (SOD) as a critical enzyme that plays a vital role in maintaining cellular health and beauty. They explore various applications of SOD, from dermatology to athletic performance, and address the importance of a holistic approach to beauty that combines science with human experience.TakeawaysBeauty is not just decoration; it's a negotiation with time.Health is more important than beauty, as true beauty stems from health.SOD (superoxide dismutase) is a critical enzyme for cellular health.The immune system plays a foundational role in achieving beauty.Beauty is a reflection of a life well lived, not just physical appearance.SOD can help with various health issues, including skin conditions and athletic recovery.Combination therapy, including nutraceuticals and topical treatments, is essential for optimal results.Generosity and love are among the most beautiful aspects of life.The mirror reflects honesty, prompting self-reflection and growth.Clinical trials and scientific research are crucial for validating health products. TitlesThe Essence of Beauty: A Deeper ConversationFrancois Vix: A Journey Through the Beauty IndustrySound bites"Beauty is biology in motion.""SOD is the enzyme of life.""We can help with recovery."Chapters00:00 The Essence of Beauty: A Negotiation with Time02:28 Francois Vix: A Journey Through the Beauty Industry10:22 Beauty Beyond Decoration: Health and Radiance14:31 The Science of SOD: A Breakthrough in Beauty and Health38:17 The Immune System: The Foundation of True Beauty45:31 Vitiligo and Melasma: The Duality of Skin Conditions52:24 The Impact of Vitiligo on Life and Identity53:42 Combining Ingredients for Optimal Skin Health55:35 The Role of SOD in Dermatology and Aesthetic Treatments57:12 SOD and Its Potential in Cancer Treatment01:01:17 Reconstructive Surgery and Recovery Enhancements01:06:30 SOD in Sports Medicine and Athletic Recovery01:09:42 The Focus on Dermatology and Aesthetic Medicine01:11:00 Philosophical Perspectives on Aging and Beauty01:17:40 The Changing Landscape of Beauty in the Digital Age01:19:35 The Importance of Patience in Nutraceuticals01:20:19 Oral vs. Topical Products in Beauty01:21:18 Ethics in the Beauty Industry01:24:29 The Intersection of Science and Human Experience01:27:45 Finding Beauty Beyond Appearancehttps://www.glisodin.com/ One on One Video call W/George https://tidycal.com/georgepmonty/60-minute-meetingSupport the show:https://www.paypal.me/Truelifepodcast?locale.x=en_US🔥 Save $2,000: Master Plant Medicines from Home (Ayahuasca, Psilocybin, San Pedro & Cannabis)Transform Your Mental Health & Consciousness with Blue Morpho’s Proven Courses:https://bluemorpho.org/plant-medicine-training/george/?ref=george🚨🚨Curious about the future of psychedelics? Imagine if Alan Watts started a secret society with Ram Dass and Hunter S. Thompson… now open the door. Use Promocode TRUELIFE for Get 25% off monthly or 30% off the annual plan For the first yearhttps://www.district216.com/Legal Disclaimer / Release of Liability for Podcast:This  content  is for educational and informational purposes only. Nothing in this transmission constitutes legal, financial, or professional advice. I am not your lawyer, financial advisor, or telling you what to do.This podcast documents historical events, analyzes publicly available information, and explores hypothetical scenarios. Any actions discussed are presented as educational examples of how systems work—not as instructions or recommendations.You are solely responsible for your own decisions and actions. Any application of information presented here is at your own risk. I assume no liability for consequences of actions you choose to take.By continuing to listen, you acknowledge that this content is educational commentary, that you’re responsible for researching applicable laws in your jurisdiction, and that you’ll consult appropriate professionals before taking any action that could affect your legal, financial, or personal situation.

George Monty, True Life Podcast. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the True Life podcast. I hope you're having a beautiful day, a beautiful day. I hope the sun is shining, hope the birds are singing, hope the wind is at your back. Ladies and gentlemen, what if beauty isn't decoration, but a negotiation with time itself, not glitter on the surface, but the conversation between flesh and infinity, the body, and the clock facing each other asking, how long can we stay radiant before we return to dust?

In this conversations, Francois Vix, a global leader in the beauty industry who has worked with L'Oreal, Lancombe, Botherm, and Nutrugina goes beneath the surface of cosmetics, markets, and biology. After expanding NeutriGna worldwide, he turned inward, helping pioneer a stable bioactive form of SOD, superoxide, dismutate. and co-creating glycodin skin nutrients.

Now used in more than 30 different countries. He has lived inside the engine room of the beauty world, then stepped into the deeper waters beneath it. We talk about beauty as biology and motion, radiance as resilience made visible, the glow that appears when a nervous system refuses to fold. Francois Vex, thank you so much for being here today. How are you?

I'm very well. Thank you, George. It's a real pleasure to be with you. and your listeners today. Even though it's nine hours ahead of you in Paris. How's the weather over there in Paris? It was very chilly last week, and now it's getting better. A little warmer, but it's still winter.

So we don't expect clear skies and sunshine and warm weather. It's just a European winter. Not as bad as the North American winter in New York or place. places like that, but still, you know, it's cold. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. We just got back from Tahoe not too long ago and got some snow up there. And I love the changing of the seasons. And, you know, speaking of the changing of seasons, you've been in this illustrious career for quite some time.

Maybe you could fill in a little, maybe fill in the listeners a little bit about how you got to be where you are. I know I gave a little bit of a background, but maybe you could flesh out a few more details on your sort of role in the beauty industry. Okay, I'll try to give you a summary of my experience and why I chose that route, that direction. You know, I started work and now it's over 40 years ago. That's when I, after university, I started to work for L'Oreal. And to be honest with you, beauty was not really my motivation. My motivation was to work for a company that was global and that with which I could work in different countries

and have different experience and be confronted to different situations. So that was my number one motivation. But it turns out that one of the most successful French companies is La Real. And already in the 80s, it already had a global reach. and was present in many countries. So that was my first choice, and they were good enough to offer me a job. So that's when I started in 1984 with them.

And from the beginning, I worked outside of France. I've worked with L'Oreal or full L'Oreal in the UK. I've worked in Asia, you know, Korea, Taiwan, so on. I've worked in Australia for L'Oreal and then at the end of my L'Oreal time I worked in France on running one of their French businesses

which is Bioterm, maybe some of your listeners are familiar with this brand, which is a global franchise. And I truly loved my time, you know, because I had a really truly international experience

in an annex that was very interesting. I changed jobs. I had different experiences in marketing, in sales, and general management of smaller companies within L'Oreal. So it was all very interesting. But there I said that after a while I got a little bored and I was looking for some different challenges. And that's when a good old American company called Johnson & Johnson knock on my door and made me an offer I couldn't refuse. And that's when I left L'Oreal to work for G&J and more particularly, they sent me to California, to Los Angeles, of all places, to run Nutrugina International Division. And we

which was in the late 90s. That's when I moved to L.A. So I had my L.A. time. I had my L.A. experience. And I would imagine that most people are familiar with Notre Gidan. It's great products. It's a great brand. It's also a global brand.

But in those days, it was not so global. It was very strong in the U.S., but it would do probably 85% of its business in the U.S. So Johnson and Johnson management needed someone to establish the global business for NutraGina, which that's why they picked me because I had that experience in the beauty skincare industry in different places around the world. And so they made me an offer. I moved to Los Angeles, leave the Californian dream for three years a little more. loved my time. I mean, I loved my time in, you know, in Los Angeles.

I mean, I was living in Manhattan Beach. You know, it doesn't come much better than that when you live in Southern California. And again, I try to build the Nutrigena business outside of the U.S., particularly in Asia, try to expand the business in Europe where it already had some presence. But Asia was very small. So we really concentrated on Asia. Asia, you know, works for with some great people, you know, and again, and the skincare business, dermatology and so on. And then after a while I had four personal reasons, I wanted to go back to France.

That's when Johnson and Johnson sent me back to France, where I run the Rock Global franchise out of Paris. And that was another experience, you know, running the global beauty brand. And so that lasted two years. And but again, I was a little frustrated. And I asked, I wanted to do something different. I'm a little independent. So I take directions not so well for not so long, you know. So after a while, I grew up with J&J, which is a great company,

but it's still a massive, huge companies with layers and layers of management. So I decided that it was time for me. I had just turned 40 years old, and I thought this is maybe time for me to move and do something more personal. So I left JNJ and set up a sense. small investment company. I did some seed capital. So I raised some capital with, I happened to have some rich friends who trusted me. So we gathered some, we accumulated some capital and started reviewing some investment prospects, some smaller companies.

and we started to invest in small companies. But again, that was not me. I got frustrated. I'm not an investor. You know, I like to do things myself. I am very much hands-on. And I love to run the show. And I don't like to just invest money in companies

and wait for those companies to either flourish or collapse. You know, this is pretty much when you do seed capital. It's, you know, you have one or two that do well, two or three that just are very stable. They don't do well at all, but they are stable and the majority will go bankrupt. It's a very dangerous sport to practice. That's not, and especially in life sciences, that's not something I would encourage. people to do, especially if they invest their own money. So, but anyway, that was, that didn't, thank God, that didn't last too long because I came

across two French immunologists and that's when the SOD story started. And I don't know if you have any questions about my past, corporate, my corporate past, or shall I now jump into the entrepreneur part of my life? So I think it's a good, I think it's a good background right there because I want people to understand how deep beauty goes. Like beauty is not only something on the cosmetic level, but it's something we have in our lives. It's the story of our lives. It's the idea of building something bigger than yourself. It's the idea of building something radiant, shines out.

And that comes from a life well lived, a life of many experiences. For you, when did beauty stop being beautiful? decoration and start becoming a negotiation with time in your own life. It sounds like we've talked about that a little bit, but maybe we could flesh that out a little bit more. Well, to me, I mean, beauty is very important, but honestly, health is more important than beauty. But although most people would not agree with me, if, you know, there are international surveys that, you know, have as people and particularly women, you know, would you rather

be healthy or beautiful, and they would rather be beautiful, which I can understand. But to me, without a healthy body, there is no beautiful body. There is, so I, and truly, I, obviously, the first part of my professional life was in beauty, but when I started the isoscelal and glycidine, the objective was not beauty. The objective was health and energy and pain management and improvement. And it's only later because of all my background in beauty that I shifted towards beauty and, you know, something that we call beauty from within. Because true beautifuls, you cannot reach radiant, beautiful skin if you don't. pay attention to what you eat.

And so, yes, it's something that is deeply rooted in my beliefs that without, you know, beauty is not just decoration. And beauty is far beyond decoration in that sense that it's your charisma, it's your energy, it's your social interaction, it's a whole group of features, you know, that drives beauty. And there are many beautiful people that you wouldn't look at because they don't radiate. You know, they don't have energy. They don't have charisma. They don't interact well with people. So beauty is well beyond the creation. I don't know if I've answered your question.

And to me, that was obviously not as. probably, I mean, this is something that you discover as you age, obviously, is the gift of wisdom that comes with age. You know, you realize that in your life there are, you know, beauty is way beyond decoration, that it goes deep down. So my angle is through health. I mean, obviously, I don't pretend to have an impact on character. But we believe that if you have a healthy lifestyle and we can help you with that, you know, it's going to have an impact on your beauty because you will be more radiant, you will have more energy, and then possibly you will interact better with people and so on and so forth.

Yeah. So this is where the SOD sort of comes in. Like, this is a whole new way in which beauty merges together with health. Yes. So this is, I have to go back a few years. Yeah. Because, you know, so here I am, you know, running this small investment company. And then one day I come across two French scientists.

They were immunologists. And they were conducting research in the field of AIDS. And that was in the late 90s, early 2000. And they were working under the supervision of Professor Luke Montagnier. Luke Montagnier was the recipient of the 2008 Nobel Prize of Medicine. And he partnered, he co-discovered the AIDS virus with Professor Gallo. actually he's from California as well. So, and Professor Montagnier was, I think, a man who was much ahead of his time.

He truly believed in natural medicine and natural products. And he thought that in the therapeutic arsenal to fight the AIDS virus, you have the chemotherapy, the retroviral drugs. which, by the way, these days are very effective because they can block the viruses under 1% of your body cells. So they do a wonderful job to fight the virus. But they don't do anything against the damage caused by the virus. That's where, you know, restoring your immunity, your energy.

And that's where, that's when Professor Montagnier thought that that's the job. of natural medicine, you know, to really re-establish your immune system, your immunity, your energy. And that's why he was a strong proponent of natural medicine. And he was supervising those two immunologists. And they had come up with a SOD. So SOD stands for superoxide dysmutas, which is a bit of a barbaric term. It's a critical enzyme. It was discovered in 1968 by two American scientists, Joe McCord and Michael Friedovich, who identified this enzyme as well as other enzymes that are part of a primary antioxidant. It's the first line of defense for the cells.

So when cells, any of our body cells, are in contact with the toxic free radicals, and there are many sources of free radicals, and I'll get back here, I'll come back on that topic later on. Our cells will produce SOD, catalase, and other enzymes to transform and detoxify those three radicals. Because if those three radicals are unchecked, they will do a lot of damage to the cells, and eventually even to the nucleus, nucleus of the cells, and they have the ability to do damage on our DNA as well. So preventing body cells to duplicate themselves in an homothetic way.

But I'll come back to that. So SOD, and when it was first discovered, SOD was coined the enzyme of life, which is a beautiful name. So why the enzyme of life? Very simply because any species, animal, plants, humans, that consumes oxygen has to develop a defense system against the toxicity of oxygen.

Oxygen provokes, you know, causes oxidation. You know, everybody knows that. So to fight this oxidation, you need antioxidant. And there are two sources of antioxidants. The secondary antioxidants, which most people are well aware of, they are your vitamins, you know, minerals, catenoids and so on. and they are a very short-lived, and they are not produced by our body.

So you have to get those vitamins through food, you know. And once they are spent, they are spent. While the other group of antioxidants, they are called the primary antioxidants. And they are the enzymatic antioxidants, and they are working 24-7. and they are produced by your body to fight toxic-free radical. So they are so critical that without those enzymes, you die, clearly.

Even if you have low level of those enzymes, you're in serious chronic trouble. So, SOD is very critical to life. And the further research we do, I mean, we as mankind, not we as isoscel or glycid, the more we find out about the critical role of SOD, not only extracellular SD outside of your cells, but also intracellular SOD. They have a very critical, this enzyme has a very critical role at optimizing cells. functions. So just to give you an idea of how you can generate a lot of free radicals, so you know that oxygen is the source of energy for your body and for your cells. So your cells

will burn that oxygen as a source of energy. And in the process of burning that oxygen, two to three percent of those of those oxygen molecules will not be properly burnt. Pretty much like an engine, you know, a motor engine, that will generate particles that are not properly burnt gas molecule. It's the same with your body. So those toxic or not properly burnt molecules, they are called oxygen reactive species. They are the most toxic group of free radical. So what happens is that a free radical is a molecule that is missing one electron. Okay. And this is as far as I will go into biology because...

It's okay. I love it. Yeah. No, it's... So it will try, that unstable molecule will try to find a missing electron. And they will search everywhere. and in that process, they will do a lot of damage. So basically, if you look at your cell membranes and you have those oxygen reactive species, they will stop damaging your cell membranes.

And once they have puncture your cell membranes, they will go for the nucleus and try to find that missing electron. And that's when they do damage. They do DNA lesions. And DNA lesions, lesions can lead to accelerated aging or to even cancer. Because the damage to your nucleus will prevent the cell from duplicating itself in a homothetic way. So it is very important to check your free radicals and particularly those reactive oxygen species.

that you cannot do without because you need oxygen to leave. You need to breathe oxygen. But basically, you cannot leave without oxygen, but oxygen is what kills you in the long run to some extent. Because after a certain age, with age, your system is a bit overwhelmed. And it causes a lot of inflammation, a lot of three radicals. And so basically it's called, and we've not ISSA, but it was coined a term called inflame aging.

It's aging through inflammation. Inflammation caused my free radical. So that's a long story to explain the critical role of SOD, but without SOD as well as Catalyst and glythiothion, there is no life, basically. And why was it coined enzyme of life? Just going back to the poetic approach, because as I said, every living organism, plant, humans, animals,

produces SOD to protect itself against the toxicity of oxygen. And the more SOD you produce as a specie, the longer you leave. So there is a direct relationship between your ability to produce SOD and your lifespan, basically. It's, and if, you know, if your followers are interested, there are 10,000 and thousands and thousands of published articles on SOD. It's a, it's a very, very important molecule. So back to those two sides. You know, they came to me and said, you know, we have what we believe is an orally effective SOD. Why? And I was very impressed from, or at least very intrigue. Right. Because SOD is a very unstable molecule. Very unstable. But it's a very well-known molecule in

in medical circles, because for many years, it was used, it was injected in inflammatory zone, you know, organs, you know, in the knees to prevent osteoarthritis. And, but that SOD was derived from beef liver. because the liver produces a lot, the liver produces a lot of SOD, whether it's any mammals, you know, humans. And for a long time, you know, pharmaceutical company will extract SOD from liver and will inject it.

However, you know, in the 80s, 90s, we had what's called mad cow disease. Yeah. And we couldn't use any extract, animal extracts, anymore. So you couldn't use SOD. And so you had to find an alternative form of SOD. And so this alternative form was possibly a botatical extract. Because botanicals produced SOD.

So, you know, why not extracts SOD from botanicals? However, botanical SOD cannot be purified to a level where it can be injected. So you cannot inject botanical acidine. So you had to take it only. However, SOD is a very, very small molecule. So it's destroyed by the acidity of the stomach. So you can eat as much botanical extract as you want. You won't get the benefit of the SOD.

And so back to these two scientists, they came to me and said, well, we have developed a form, a protective device, a protective matrix for everything. SOD that will help survive gastric acidity. So I was very intrigued because when I work at L'OREL, 10 years earlier, I came across SOD. L'OLE has many patents on SOD, especially for hair graying and hair loss and alopecia a her atara, which is the inflammatory form of allopacia. And so I knew about ASOD, but I knew it was, you couldn't absorb it. You couldn't take it only.

You had to either apply it on the skin typically or you had to inject it. So I was very intrigued and we started talking. And so the first thing that I did, we invested a bit of money and to see. and then very quickly I realized that this is not going to work. You know, either you go in a big way or you don't go. So I said to those two guys, you know, why don't you join me and us and we'll set up the company and try to transform that you discover your patent

into an actual product because all their patents was based on bovine. So you still had to find a botanical extract that would be edible because it was not going to be a pharma product. It was not going to be a drug. It had to be a nutraceutical or a supplement. So, you know, we raise some capital and we started a big adventure. the long march, the long march, as Nalk-Sethon will say. It's very long, yeah. Yeah, because, you know, it's not a sport that you should practice with your own money.

You know, life sciences is a very expensive field. It's highly regulated. It's very capital-intensive. So anyway, little did we know. And so, but however, after two years, we found a edible source of SOD that was not from bovine. It was from a specific melon, cantaloupe melon, which is an hybrid. So an hybrid is the end result of the, you know, it's an hybrid from two pure classical, you know, race of species of. melon it's not genetically modified I you know it's so most vegetables and fruits

are I breeds anyway these days and that melon could actually yield five to seven times more SOD than your average cantaloupe melon and it was not developed for us it was developed for to develop a melon that would have a long shelf life But the taste was awful because the melon will remain green. It wouldn't get rotten, you know. So they were wondering why this melon doesn't age, you know, it doesn't mature. And that's when they found out that it had very high content of vitamins and SOD. And it's the SOD that will keep the melon green.

So this company that developed the hybrid melon, so we partner with them. And they did, they produced a melon and they did the extraction. So today we process one metric ton of melon to collect one metric ton of melon to collect one kilo of melon extract that is very rich in ESOD. So it's a 1,000 to one extraction. It's a water-only extraction. And that was one part of the equation.

The second part was, how do you protect that melon extract so that it doesn't? And that's when we turn to a well-known metric, which is called it's gliadine. Gliadine is a fraction of gluten. You have gliamine and gliaidines. So we use the gliaidine.

And the glia dine is a very hard protein. So we encapsulate the melon extract with the glia dine. So it survives the gastric, the stomach. And the gladine has one very interesting property, which very few people know about. It has very strong bioadhesive properties. So it sticks. Gliadine, if you take some bread,

and the white part of the bread, and you put it on your fingers, and then you put it, you let water run over your fingers. You'll see that it's sticky. And that's the gliafine effect. It's the bioadhesive effect. So the gladein will not only help the melone,

the esotene, the melon to survive the gastric acid. It will target the small intestine, the upper level of the small intestine, where you have 70, 70% of your immunocompetent cells. And that's when our SOD will be in contact with our own cells, immunocompetent cells, and that's when our product will be able to prime your own internal system,

acting like a catalyst to your own internal system. So, and to give you to illustrate that discovery, if you take a mouth and you draw blood from the mouth and you measure the SOD content in blood, it's harmless for the animal. I just want to make sure because I don't want to have all the animal. And you measure SOD and then you feed our SOD to the animal to the mouth. And then 30 days after, you draw blood again and measure SOD in the blood,

the difference between day one and day 30 in terms of SOD content is a lot more than what we gave to the animal. So it's not our product that is directly acting. It's the product that has the ability to trigger a reaction. and, you know, really as a catalytic effect, it's priming our own system. And that's the beauty of it, too, because it will stimulate, it will regulate our own product on a VSD,

but it will have no side effects because it's our own body that is put at work. It's not some kind of, you know, a foreign substance that is increasing, SOD. And so basically that's the mechanism of action. You know, we, it took us a good three years to develop the product to stabilize the product because SOD is a very unstable molecule and has all, as with all antioxidants. When you start losing activity, it will go, it's a chain reaction. It will go to zero. So you have to find a way to

to stabilize the molecule because basically in our products, the product is live. You know, it's like probiotics. We measure the activity. So, yes, that was a little over 20 years ago. After three years, we could start to do some business and find out who was interested in the products. And of all places, our number one country for many years,

was Japan. Because SOD in Japan is like it's one of the most important molecules in

Japan. And we got very positive acceptance by the medical and scientific

community in Japan for our products, which is not so much the case in the U.S. because in the

U.S. S.O.D. had a bad reputation because everybody knew that SOD would be destroyed in the gastric, you know, in the stomach. So they would tell me, well, your product has no bioavailability. Now it's harder to say that because now we have our 40 published studies on the activity of the product. So but at first it was a challenge. So it was hard to break into the U.S. market because of the bad,

reputation of SOD as an oral product in the nosedical market. So that was the first initial few years of the adventure. And I will circle back to beauty in a moment because, you know, I know it's the theme. So SOD is a very critical molecule. I think we have established that. And it's a very important molecule because it has a diet impact on the immune system. And there is a scoop here,

but if you want to be beautiful, you have to have a healthy immune system. That's the first step. And if you look at dermatology, which is a field where I have a bit of experience, most dermatological diseases are linked to the immune system. You know, if you look at pigmentation disorders, you know, psoriasis, atopic skin, or rosacea, all that is linked to a weakness,

either over-activity of your immune system or under-activity of your immune system. So it's critical to regular, that part with your immune system if you want to have an impact on most dermatological diseases. And so, you know,

obviously with my background, you know, I was interested in beauty products. Is there any applications, you know, of this discovery on beauty and health? Well, health, it's quite obvious. You know, we've done a lot

research in metabolic syndrome, you know, even sports medicine, immune health, oncology, you know, it's, and the beauty of it is that because we have such an expertise in this molecule worldwide, you know, most of that research we didn't pay for because we would be approached by academics, you know, who got interested in our molecule, who had a passion for, and they will approach us and say, well, we'll be happy to do research for you if you provide some of your product and we'll do the research. So of course, we were very happy to comply. And now we have done research in 10 different countries. So it's not just a little company somewhere in a little corner in France that is doing its research. We've actually worked

with the best Japanese universities, Korean. In the U.S., we have done multiple work with universities, but also in Germany, in France, in Poland, in many different countries. And more to come, of course. So we have established the importance of the product and its impact on free radicals, and because free radicals and oxidative stress causes inflammation, also on inflammation.

And the third dimension of this product is what we call immunomodulation. It's the ability to regulate the immune system. And I'll get to that in a minute when we talk about dermatology, beauty, and pigmentation disorders, such as melasma or vitiligo. So, yes, if you manage... to have a healthier immune system. You'll have more energy. You'll recover faster.

Your skin will be better protected. You know, you will control inflammation. So definitely beauty starts with the immune system. It doesn't start necessarily from inside, but it starts from the immune system. And clearly, if you have all that, you'll have a much richer life, you know, because more energy, better recovery. I mean, everybody wants that.

And so, yes, it's, and I think we've, you know, we've shown, we've brought evidence that this is the product is effective in many, on many application, in many dimensions. I mean, obviously we don't have human double-blind control placebo on humans in every, indication. That's way beyond our resources, but our means. But we have a good, and for people who are interested, we have a website dedicated to our research, which is, you know, for the Glycidine community international, it's Glycidin.org. And you have all our research listed there. And it's not a commercial website. It's just a research website that any researcher who conduct research on our products, they have, well, to hopefully published, and they have to list their research

on this website. It's a website dedicated to the community of glycidine and SOD. It's so wide-ranging, you know, on the surface, it sounds like beauty. When I first went to the site and I started looking at some of the models and some of the skin conditions people were using it for. But it's so much more wide-ranging than that. After listening to you get to speak a bit about it, it does sound like it regulates everything in the immune system. I'm thinking it could be used for anything from athletics to, you know,

not to mention people in hospitals recovering from cancer. My wife had cancer. It sounds like it would be a great product for her to use to put on the scalp or to start regrowing somewhere the rashes might have been. It sounds like it's a really wide. ranging molecule that can help out in a lot of different instances. Well, you're absolutely right. And why is it a wide-ranging molecule?

It's because it works right at the heart of the cells. Right. It reestablished what we call, what is called cell omoostasis, the balance of the cells. So it will obviously help the cells work better. And if you have healthy cells, well, you're going to be much more resistant to infections. So you're right. It's quite far-ranging because I haven't counted how many applications we've covered. But, you know, we have covered quite a few applications.

And, you know, from allergy prevention to some dermatot. neurological disease. And sometimes you, and I can give you an example, which is very telling and very clear. You know, our products, we have clinical data that show that our products is effective on vitiligo. I don't know if you're familiar with vitiligo,

but it's a skin disease that's where you have a loss of pigments in your skin. So you have white patches. You know, it's the depigmentation. And the flip side, the other side of, you might be more familiar with melasma. Melasma is darker spots on your skin. So our product is effective on both indications. And people ask me,

how can your product help repigment and help deep pigment? Right. You know. So it's quite simple because it all it has to do with your immune system. In the case of Vitaleigo, it's an autoimmune disease. So your immune system is overactive. It's in and without getting too technical, but in the case of Vitiligo patients, you know, melanocytes, which are the pigmentary cells in your skin,

will migrate from the dermis to the epidermis and then they will stick at the level of the epidermis and and but in the case of and bring color to your skin that's what those cells bring color to your skin but in the case of people with Vichlygo those melanocytes will be attacked and damaged by the immune system that will identify those cells as foreign

and they will be damaged to the point that they don't stick at the level of the epitomous. They will fall. So what my product does, it doesn't stimulate the production of melanocytes. For that, you need natural light or UVB radiation to stimulate the production of melanocytes. But what it will do,

it will control and regulate the overreaction of the immune system so that you have more melanocytes that will stick the level of the epidemis. So it's by controlling the immune system and the overreaction of the immune system that you actually help with vitiligo and melanocytes. By the way, if I can do 30 seconds of publicity. Take your time, of course. No, I just want to say that on this disease, Vitiligo, we have a lot of credibility.

We have multiple clinical data, clinical trials published, and to the point that now the product is listed in the international medical guidelines for the treatment of Vitiligo, which is the recognition by the medical community that this product can help in combination with other treatments for Vitiligo. So that's vitiligo. And then melasma is exactly the opposite. You have dark, you know, patches of skin. And that's because your immune system is not protective enough. So what glycline will do, it will not remove the dark, you know, melanocytes, the accumulation of melanocytes and dark scycinic.

cells in your skin. That is done by depigmenting cream, you know, laser, all sorts of things. But what it will do, it will stimulate the immune system so that you have better protection and that you have less melasma. So it's always an indirect action, but it's based on the regulating immune activity, the immune system. So those are two examples of how the product works. So if you can reduce free radicals, and then you will have an impact on inflammation and inflammation and modulation. So it's like a vicious circle. Oxidiv stress and free radical cause inflammation. Inflammation cause oxalous stress. So you have to break that cycle. And I think, you know, glycidin is one of the tools that you can use to break that cycle. And so that's just the example in dermatology.

But, you know, we have other examples where it can have an impact on Eritem, you know, which is skin inflammation, you know, very common in Rosacea. We suspect it could help also in the field of atopic skin, you know, because, again, this has to do with regulation of your immune system and activity of your immune system. So back to beauty, again, if you contribute to all that, you will contribute.

And to be more specific, and I know that for you, beauty is not only decoration, but in the case of Viti-Digo patients, and especially children, we do a lot of work with children, you know, there is a,

mental charge with Vitiligo, which is very significant, especially with children. I mean, some people have Vitiligo and they will not go out of their house for years, you know, because there are some social stigma associated with Vitiligo because in the old days, and it's still the case in some countries like India or even Brazil, where vitiligo is usually triggered by some kind of infection. You know, and in those countries, it's very often, it can be leprosis. So in a country like India, if you have vitiligo, those white patches of skin, people are going to think that you come from a leprosis background.

So even if it's just your uncle, or your sister, you know, it carries so much social stigma that you might not be able to marry someone outside, you know, because your family is identified as the leprosis family. So very often vitiligo is triggered by an infection or a shock, you know, that stimulates an overreaction of your immune system. But for children, it's very critical that you treat Vitinaigua when they are young because as soon as they get to high school, they will be harassed, you know, and discriminated and so on. So, yes, in that case, you know, it's far beyond beauty. It's your balance, your life, your future that you're treating.

So, you know, it's much more than decoration. as you said. Have you found it to work with, it sounds the formula that you have works well on its own, but do you ever recommend using it in context with something else? Can you stack it with something else? Or is there like a protocol? What are your thoughts on that? Yes, we've combined it with some other ingredients.

Because, again, I think I made it clear that SOD works on the immune. immune system. But to have a beautiful skin, you need more than just an immune system. You need to bring lipids to your skin. And we find that if you combine SOD with omega-3, omega-6, aeronic acid, you know, you're going to bring those critical lipids to your skin. And especially we have a product called glycodyn anti-aging, which is phenomenal to bring glow to your skin. And a glowing skin is a beautiful skin. It's a very healthy skin.

It's got better texture. It's got more elasticity, less wrinkles. So, yes, we do that all the time. We combine it with other ingredients because SOD alone cannot do everything. You know, it's... SOD will work on the immune system. and inflammation. But it will not work on improving your skin texture. That's, this is, you can, and we have another product called

skin brightening that will also enhance natural photo protection of your skin. And those products can be used on their own or they can be used with aesthetic treatments. We work with a number of physicians, you know, dermatologists, aesthetic doctors, who would combine our products with surgery to improve recovery and less pain, better scaring. Or, for example, there's a lot of dermatologists use laser to work on hyperpigmentation.

Well, if you combine it with our products, you will have, laser is very aggressive and it produces a lot of inflammation. but if you combine it with our internal products, you will have less what's called transdermal water loss. So your skin will be less dry and also you will have less pigmentation rebounds. The problem with laser, for example,

is that you might not be able to get rid of the, hyperpigmentation. So you have rebounds, what it's called rebounds. But if you use some of our products, you will decrease the risk of rebound because rebounds are inflammation. And if you control that, and you cannot easily control inflammation when you use laser because a laser is highly inflammatory. You want the inflammation to get rid of the hyperpigmentation. Sorry, this is a bit technical, but this is how it's done in dermatology. You know, we spoke earlier about Professor Montaigne and his work on AIDS originally. And I can't help but think the way in which SOD affects the immune system,

that maybe there's some benefit for cancer treatments as well. When we look at something like skin cancer or some aspects of that, can you speak to that? Yeah, so cancer is a bit of a minefield. Okay. Of course, of course. So, you know, we, because you're not the first one to ask us this question. And we have some very interesting, mostly animal models that shows that we can have an impact on prevention of cancer. But generally speaking, we certainly do not recommend our products during oncology treatments because, as you have understood now, our product are going to protect cells and against oxidative stress.

Now, most of the oncological treatments generates a lot of oxidative stress. They want to destroy cancer cells. So if you use antioxidant or immunosulating products before oncology treatment, it could interact with the oncology treatment. So we always say before and after yes, but not during treatment. But to be honest with you, we had some experience with cancer post-treatment, especially in breast cancer for women who would undergo breast oncology treatment for breast cancer. And they will develop, I'm sorry, it's a thick, I'm losing. the term, but it's a sickness of the skin.

Right. And we've shown that we could actually reduce the sickness of the skin as well as the spread of the skin. And that's because it's inflammatory. Same with people who develop loss of saliva post-oncology treatment. If you lose for throat, cancer, if you lose saliva, and it's a liver, and it's a liver, and it's, And if you haven't reestablished, if you don't have any saliva after a year, it's permanent loss of saliva. So again, here in people with some patients, we did some early work, earlier work, we could reestablish some saliva among patients who had lost, total loss of saliva. And that's because the saliva glands suffer from fibrosis.

Fibrosis is, and by the way, the word that I was looking for on skin is fibrosis. It's called skin fibrosis. When your skin is almost burned, it has sicken. So you would use topical creams and so on, but the products can help as well. It's interesting you bring that up because I know women that have had the target, radiation therapy after breast cancer. And that causes a problem for reconstruction. So when you bring up this idea that the SOD may help with the fibrosis, that allows

miracles for people that want to do the reconstructive surgery or to reestablish some fluency in that tissue where they can work with it and rebuild right there. That in itself can bring back a lot of hope and joy and love to a woman that might be going through that or to a family. Yes. Yeah. But again, you said it. I didn't say it. It was me. It was me. I said it. Yeah, yeah. I, because I tend to be very cautious because, as you said, the product can do many things, but it's not a cure for everything. Right. So you have to be careful. Generally speaking, if there is, you have an inflammatory condition. it's likely that there's going to be some benefits.

So yes, reconstructive surgery, especially we work with surgeons, mostly plastic surgeons. And what they say is that the product will enhance recovery. So you have faster scaring, faster, less pain. healers because less pain, better quality of skin, and shorter downtime. But we haven't done any work on more general surgery. What we have done, and you might be interested in that, which is a parallel feel. We've done some work on model for thoracic surgery.

Thoracic surgery, heart surgery. using a so when you when you conduct heart surgery you're going to bypass the heart it's called ischemia reperfusion so you do clamping on the arteries so that there is no blood flow on the heart because you're doing surgery on the heart okay so once the surgery is completed and you re-establish the normal blood flow, it's called ischemic reperfusion, you will have a release of free radicals that are very toxic that could damage heart cells and kidney cells. So imagine the surgeon during conducting surgery on their heart, and then he will do the declamping. So the arteries is pinched and it will reestablish blood flow. And with that blood flow, because of

the accumulation of blood in the artery, there will be like an overcharge of toxic molecules that will do damage on heart cells and kidney cells and could potentially impact recovery and so on. So we did a study on ischemia refusion on peaks that are very similar physiology as as men and it was conclusive. We could, we had fewer damage on heart cells and kidney cells post-surgery, post-ischemia refusion. So, so that's published, you know, that's, that's published. Everything that I've told you is published, by the way, you know.

I'm very careful not to over promise because, but that's published. We did another. study on using a similar model which is with hyperbaric oxygen. So you, which is a model that is also a model used in surgery because, so basically you put people in an hyperbaric chamber, you let them breathe one hour pure oxygen and then you put three bars of pressure in the chamber. And it's hyperbic oxygen is the most toxic stuff that you can do to your body because oxygen is so toxic.

So after an hour, you let them go out and you draw blood and then you filter white blood cells and red blood cells. And the white blood cells will have damage. They will have been, the oxygen will have exploded. the nucleus. And it's like a comet, you know, with a long tail. If you have a long tail, it means that you have damage to the nucleus. If you have a short tail, no damage. And we've shown that people who would be taking our product, two or three weeks prior to exposure to hyperbatic oxygen, had no damage to the nucleus. So they had short tails for their white blood

cells. And that was a long time ago. And we did that 15 years ago. And that's the comet assay. That's the gold standards in medicine as a model to show protection against oxidative stress and free radical. It sounds like you can have so much use in the world of athletics. You know, for me, when I see someone who is out there and they've really trained their body, maybe not so much as a body builder, but just someone that stays in shape and you can see the muscle tone. It sounds to me like SOD plays a critical role in that type of keeping lean body mass and keeping the body tight in that aspect. There's some published papers on that as well?

Yes, we've done some work with Japanese cyclist. Yeah. You know, we've done work with also Polish roars. And we've shown that we could control cereal active proteins, which is an inflammation. marker and that we could also control lactic acid buildup. So, and again, we don't know the mechanism of action, whether the product helps recycling lactic acid faster or whether the liver works better, you know, but there is some, and the end benefits is not so much enhanced performance, but it's recovery, faster recovery.

Right. And I have some friends who run marathons. And they tell me, when I take your products a month before and after, I can run another marathon two days after, you know. And I said, that's great, but please don't. Because your body must recover, you know, and it's not because you have less pain that your body hasn't, you know, hasn't been, isn't damaged.

You know, it needs its recovery time. So yes, it will help. with recovery for sure. But don't extend your health, you know, your, because that could be, that could have a negative impact. But on recovery, yes, for sure, because it will control inflammation again.

And the fact if you do intense sports, you will have, you will consume more oxygen than your body can recycle. your hyperventilate. And when you hyperventilate, it's very bad for your production of free radicals and oxygen reactive species and your body is a bit overwhelmed.

So yes, it can help with that and recovery. But again, if you visit our website, we have a whole section on sports medicine. But we haven't been there because honestly, we had to pick and choose our battles because you can go bankrupt going after so many applications

and you rightfully said your products can do many different things and maybe it's a good thing but maybe it's a curse because you know it's much easier to market a product that does one thing very well than a product that does many things, you know.

So as far as ISOcell and the company is concerned, we focus on dermatology and dermatological diseases and aesthetic medicine and anti-aging medicine. But we are very happy to cooperate with other companies that would want to do research in metabolic syndrome, cardiovascular health or other fields. We simply cannot afford to do that. But yes, there is a lot of potential.

In some countries, we have approved claims on cardiovascular health and blood vessels. Not in the U.S., for sure, because that will, if I, you know, claim something like that, I would go directly to prison next time and go to the U.S. The FDA would not like that. Yeah. We'll stay. And quite frankly, we wouldn't even try it. But yes, there are different applications that could be interesting.

But as far as we're concerned, it's aesthetics, dermatology, and longevity, aging. That's enough. It is. It is. It's to keep me very, you know, very busy. And the consequence of all that is beauty, of course. not only decoration, but beauty from inside and so on, and all the benefits that goes with it.

Let's jump in. I got some people stacking up over here that have been waiting to kind of chime in. Let me jump on over here to my Discord and see who we got coming in. Okay, okay, the first one we got coming up. Thank you, everybody, for being patient hanging out with us today. First up is Ava from Brooklyn. She says, do we grow old or do we simply reveal more of our true face over time? Sorry, do we grow old or do we simply, excuse me?

Do we simply reveal more of our true face over time? This is a question for you, not for me. Do we grow old? Biologically, you grow old, yes. That's my answer. because we know that some functions are we are less effective as we age. That's a very well-established fact. And that's where we can help a little bit with SOD.

But there are benefits with age. So hopefully we reveal ourselves or we better understand ourselves. So, you know, I don't know. What would you say, you know, George? You're the expert. Okay. Well, you know what, Ava? First off, thanks for the question.

It's sort of a mystical question. I think that as you grow old, you give yourself permission to be who you are. You sort of let those things kind of fall aside of like, you know what? I don't care anymore. Let me tell you what I think, you know? Exactly. There's real beauty in that because you free yourself to be honest. You free yourself to give the opinion that maybe.

maybe you've experienced or that you thought. And in doing that, you get to learn about yourself, your environment. It's a great question, Ava. And why don't you put your answer, Ava, in the text down there so we can read it. And I'll move over here to my friend Miguel S from Austin, Texas. He says, is the mirror lying to me or is it just brutally honest before coffee? Miguel, the mirror is brutally honest. That would be my answer.

What do you think, Francois? Yes, the mirror is brutally honest. And unfortunately, you know, and this is something that we've seen with COVID. You know, it's really funny because a lot of people have spent a lot of time in front of their screen, you know, doing video conferencing and so on. And what we have noticed is that some of them didn't like what they saw all day long. And the next few months after COVID, the increase in surgery. in aesthetic medicine was phenomenal. So people wanted to change the way they looked

because they didn't like so much, you know, the way they looked, you know, on the screen. So, yeah, and the mirror is brutally honest, but there are things that you can do to improve, you know. You know, I'm not, I shouldn't say that because I have so many friends in the aesthetic medicine, you know, but I don't think. do Botox or anything like that, but I have seen some incredible transformation with plastic surgery.

You know, people gaining 10 years, you know, people who have bags, dark circles, nose, you know, those guys can do miracles. So, yes, they can dramatically improve, you know, the way you look. Of course, you have a topic. products, skincare creams, they can help, but they have a limited reach. And then, you know, there are so many new devices every month in aesthetic myths, and it's, you know, a new laser, you know, something that is going to pull your skin. So, but, I mean, if I can preach for my own church, you know, food, you know, what you eat,

maybe complement your, you know, if you have some shortages, you know, in your diet. And if you're going to take nutraceuticals

or dietary supplements, if I can have, you know, a couple of pieces of advice. Yeah. One is take only consume natural products. Because for a very simple reason,

our body can absorb natural product. It cannot absorb synthetic products. So all those synthetic vitamins is a total waste of your money. So natural products, whether they are marine extract or botanical extract, number one. Look at the clinical data, you know, because a lot of supplements, they will use some of those famous ingredients, but that's famous ingredients, but But they use very sub-normal or sub-clinical dosage. So to me, that's cheating your consumers. And then you have a lot of good products out there.

You know, but it's just be very demanding when you look at those products. And they can do a lot of, they couldn't have a very good impact, some of them. You know, I'm not going to deny that. Yeah, I would agree. Always do your own research. Try to figure out what it is you're taking. Go ahead and look at the testimonials of people that have used them. And go to find a website that has to publish papers, much like you guys have on your website.

Look for that published work out there that really validates the things. You know, you had mentioned people's attitudes changing since COVID. And I'm curious if you have any thoughts or maybe you've seen some things on the changing landscape of beauty since we have all these filters. People are constantly on the internet and there's all these filters that change their face and maybe give them, you know, an unfair advantage or a look that might not be truly theirs. But what are your thoughts on that landscape and how it might be changing the world of beauty? I don't know. I'm not a very good customer for that. You know, I, again, to me, the most beautiful beauty is natural beauty. So I, I, I,

But, I mean, some people need, you know, aesthetic treatments. They need that, you know, I mean, and we see a lot of surgeries done on people who don't really need, if you ask me, that surgery. But it's to make them feel more confident, you know, a better self-image. And that might be a good thing at the end of the, if they feel how. here. That's the only thing that matters. You know, it's so yeah, many, many devices, depending on your problem. One thing I want to say again about nutraceuticals is that it's be patient, you know, it's not something that is going to solve your problem overnight. We see people who have massive sun damage,

you know, eye pigmentation, that they have accumulated after 20 years of overexposing them, their body to the sun. And they asked their doctor, can you fix that in two weeks? No, it's not going to take two weeks. You know, it's going to take a few months to improve. And nutritional supplements,

work the same way. It takes time. And thank God it takes time. Because I would be very worried if you had a, in 24 hours, if you had an immediate improvement of a reaction, because that would mean that it's toxic. But the benefits are very real and they are quite different from what you would get with creams, for example. You know, the benefits from notococals. you know, the glow, the quality of the texture of your skin and so on. So I think I've always said, you know, you need to combine. Combination therapy is the right approach and for beauty. Yeah, that idea of the holistic idea.

What is the difference with glycodin versus topical versus ingesting it? Does the topical work as well? Does it only permeate a little bit of the skin or does it not work? No, we don't do topical. Right. We only do oral. Right. Because, you know, we want to be the best in the world in the oral field.

Yes. So I have no time. There are so many great products that works topically. But I believe that we have, we could be the best with oral products. So I'm just focusing on oral products. But yes, combining is the right approach. approach combining oral and topical. So we have some people coming in over here.

And I want to tell my audience that Francois is not the, he is not the, he is not the spokesperson for all of beauty. So I just want to preface it with that. But I got some questions coming in that have some, some, some other kind of questions about beauty. Lena from Vancouver, she says, if a company profits from insecurity, can it ever claim to care about human dignity? Okay, so on the philosophical level, I agree with that.

You know, I don't want to, we have, and that's why we work with physicians around the world. We want to have a very, we put the health and of our patients and people first. You know, I'm not overselling to anybody. we believe that we can bring benefits, you know, better quality of life, better beautiful skin, you know, we can help. But we never other sell our products. And do we profit? If you ask me, you know, no, I've reached the ripe age of 65.

So as you said, you know, I don't stand on the brakes anymore. I let go. So I don't care. And I, you know, I'm not, I'm in there to, and that might sound very arrogant. But I'm therefore to improve the quality of life of people. I'm not there to make money. If I had been there to make money, I would have done something different because believe me, we had to invest so much money. that it's so, you know, we, that's why we do so many clinical trials.

I mean, in our field, nobody wants to take the pain of clinical trials. And the reason why we do that, we chose to take the high ground, you know, show the benefits in a very objective way, not over-promised, works with physicians, you know, because they have a better understanding of the needs and of their patients. So now we're not over-selling. But the way I put my ego is not in the amount of money that I have in the bank. Where I put my ego is by the fact that every day 200,000 people around the world use my products. That's, to me, that's my reward, full stop.

now so yeah it's hopefully one day the company will make money but you know I mean significant money but it's not what is my prime my first motivation and I think Lena you know what I think is a good antidote to that question is what we spoke about earlier if you want to know about a product do the research on it find out where the ingredients are made find out where the ingredients are made find out who's benefiting from it. Find out the testimonials. Because I think you can find the difference between people who are trying to make money and people who are trying to be healthy. And it doesn't take that much research. If you look at the published papers,

if you look at the team behind the product, then you can see, is this window dressing or is these people who care? I think it's easy to see once you start looking at the research aspect. But that's a great question, Lena. Thank you. Thomas, Thomas coming from Barcelona, Spain.

Thomas, thanks for being here. He says, when you work with SOD, where does hard biochemistry end and human meaning begin? Biochemistry and human, sorry? A human meaning. Where does hard biochemistry end and human meaning begin? I'm not sure I fully understand the question, but, you know, science is the basis. You know, without science, you go nowhere. You know, it's, it's, I agree that for products like Nutraceuticals, there is a placebo effect.

But, and so that might be some, that might give some benefits. But first, you have to establish the science and then you have to establish the clinical benefits and the end results. You know, when we conduct clinical trials, usually we do it three ways. We measure, you know, the scientific results by using, so it's objective measurement. We ask the physicians to report the improvement without knowing, you know, what's the results. And last, we ask the patient, have you seen the improvement? And it's only if you have the three a line that you're going to have, you know, the product is going to be effective. So science comes first.

Patient satisfaction comes first. It comes at the same time, but after, sorry, science. And, you know, basically that's what I would answer. We don't do. And, you know, very early in the game, I was. I was very lucky with the development of glycline because I was surrounded by stars in medicine, because they got interested in the product.

And you still have physicians out there and scientists who are passionate about science and medicine. So when they find a product like that, that they are intrigued, and then they are more and more involved. and they always told me, you know, don't do science that you cannot publish. Don't do, you know, the end results is the most important thing. You know, science is the most important thing.

So even though I'm not a scientist, I've learned from my master's. It's well said. I had a question that came in when I started putting up the chat from my friend Hana. Hana in Tokyo, she asked a beautiful question that I put up on the board and it says, What is the most beautiful thing you have ever seen that had nothing to do with appearance? Generosity, free generosity. I don't know, you know, I do many things that have nothing to do with appearance personally. You know, but love, generosity.

I don't know. What do you think, George? Well, first off, I love that question, Hanna, and I love the answer. I think we're surrounded by beauty. I think all you have to do is really go outside and take a look at the ecosystem around you. And you get a good look at how beautiful the world is, whether it's a bee landing on a flower to pollinate it or maybe a leaf falling from a tree and kind of winding down a little bit. But I don't know. I think the most beautiful thing I have seen that doesn't have to do with appearance.

is maybe my child being born or just being outside in nature in those quiet moments on a sunset. Like it's all around you. And sometimes we forget about it. Sometimes we really forget about how lucky we are. So Hannah, that's a beautiful question. I'll challenge you, Hannah, to put your answer in the chat over here so that we can read it out a lot over there. But Francois, fantastic conversation. What else?

Did we leave anything out that we didn't touch on that people should know about? We went pretty deep. Yes, yes. Now, I think we covered a lot of fields. No, it was very interesting, and you have certainly a very interesting angle to approach all this. So, well, thank you for, you know,

bringing that to a different level. Yeah, I learned a lot. I'm grateful. You know, what I thought was going to be primarily about beauty ended up, for me, I got to learn quite a bit about the, the immune system, health, and how all of those things relate to beauty on the surface. Like, that's really deep and it's intertwined.

And I learned a lot from it. And I think the listeners did as well. And I'm grateful for that. Thank you for bringing that to my attention and to my audience's attention. I think it's wonderful. You're most welcome. It was a pleasure to chat with you. Yeah.

Okay, ladies and gentlemen, well, hang on briefly afterwards, Francois. But to everybody else within the sound of my voice, thanks for hanging out with us today. If you're watching us now, click on the QR code right there, and it'll take you right to the website. And one more time, Francois, before we sign off, where can people find you? What do you got coming up? What are you excited about?

So you mean where can people find? Yeah, maybe shout out the website one more time. Yeah. So, you know, it's glycidine.com for, it's the commercial website. You know, we have a glycidine shop on Amazon Prime. But we are in 50 countries around the world. So you can even find us in Spain for your Barcelona and listener. And for those who are interested in research,

I would just advise them to visit our website on glistin.org, which is our research website. And, you know, glycidine stands for gliaidine and sODD, Gli-sodin. Easy to remember. And, you know, your viewers, listeners, didn't ask any question about gluten,

you know, because I used the bad word gluten. But, you know, B, you know, up to now, I think we've sold over 300 million daily doses of glycidine. All of the last. And the number of, you know,

gluten energy, you can count on on both hands. Because the level of gluten that we use in our product is below the threshold level for celiac patient. So obviously if you're celiac, I would not advise you to take the product, but if you're just intolerant, you'll have no issue whatsoever.

And by the way, the gluten that we used or the wheat that we use is not genetically modified. It doesn't contain any glyphosates. You know, it's French, European wheat. And so it's usually a little healthier than the wheat that you might find in the U.S. En Santo over there. Ladies and gentlemen, I can't recommend it enough. Go to the website, reach out to the company, check out the product for yourself.

And I hope you'll have a beautiful day. Again, hang on briefly afterwards, France. Once everybody else have a beautiful day. all we got. Aloha.