TrueLife - Bree Dellerson - The Sound of Healing/ LIVE READING/ FEEL ITS EFFECTS

Episode Date: November 30, 2023

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Back to the True Life podcast I hope everybody's having a beautiful day I hope the sun is shining And the birds are singing the wind is at your back. I'm hopeful that even if the sky is cloudy, you see a silver lining. I have an incredible show for you today with an amazing guest, an author, a licensed acupuncturist, a sound healer, clairvoyant, someone who's harmonizing the nature of

oneself for over 25 years. She talks about body, mind, light work, sound healing, and vibrational healing, and just an all-around amazing individual. Well, Bree Della, and I'm so excited you're here with me today. How are you? I'm great. Thank you so much for inviting me, George. I love the opportunity to share my medicine with people.

So when you offer the invitation, it's like, this is what the work wants me to do. This is what the light wants me to do. And I'm just in service to that. Yeah. And recently, you did some work on Randall's project in Heel, right? Yeah, I was invited to contribute a section on how to find a sound healer. So that was a wonderful. It was a really great opportunity for me to really think about something I hadn't really thought about before.

But, you know, I got to think about my experience as being a sound practitioner for a very long time now, decades. And, you know, my experiences with sound from other practitioners and what people, you know, maybe can look for when they're looking for one of their own. Yeah, absolutely. Did you get into acupuncture and sound healing at the same time or to one lead? to the other, what did that destination look like or journey look like? Oh, my goodness. So my first healer that I ever experienced with bodywork anything was back in like 1997 when I was going through my Montessori training. And I was at an aromatherapy store and I was always very like sensitive to the environment of people. I can tell when they were thinking of me and I

couldn't get it out and I was never grounded. And she's like, oh, you need to see Elena who was upstairs. And so I had my first session with Elena, and she did tuning forks and crystals and essential oils and body work. And it was like this two and a half hour experience. And after that experience, I had felt my feet on the ground for the very first time. And every time I talk about it, I know that feeling like it's in my body. And I was like, oh, this is what I'm meant to do, something along these lines working with sound. But that didn't really manifest until years later. Although my whole life I've been involved with music, I started studying piano when I was four.

I went to interlock in Michigan in the summer for, you know, music. And so sound has definitely been a part of my life. But then, you know, years later, so during that time, I started studying things. I studied acupressure, body work, things that would support what I was getting intuitively from people when I was working on them and picking up information. and I realized like I could put my hand over someone and start to get accurate information about what was going on. And then my body would start to kind of pull out these, you know, denser energies on its own. And I was like, what is happening here?

And so it was clearing it and getting information at the same time. And then just years later, I ended up going to acupuncture school in Seattle at Bastier University. And the first day I was there, I was in T. tears because I was like, this is the glue. This is the glue that's going to like bring all the parts of me, all the work I do together because one, I have this ancient map and medicine to draw upon that supports what I'm getting intuitively from people. So I'm able to bring them to a state of health and harmony and I can bring in all the other pieces of who I am to this work. And so that's

kind of the unfolding. And it's continued to evolve and expand because that was, when did I, I think I got my degree back in 2008. It's fascinating to me. I've had some acupuncture done, and it's an interesting letting go in a weird sort of way. Because I feel like, you know, you're there and you're in this state of awareness that is, at least it was uncommon for me. And there may have been some music playing in the background, but I never thought about how those two things could go together. Like, do they go together? Like when you, if someone is, is getting acupuncture,

can you use certain frequencies to help tune the needles to go into the body? Or do those things go together in a certain way? They complement each other. Okay. But there's different ways that you can use it. You can just use the tuning forks and the sound without needles. I do that a lot with clients. If they're a needlephobic, children, whatever, remotely,

because most of my work I do right now is online. But what I find for me when I use the needles in an in-person sense, is it kind of lays like the groundwork and it holds down that energy template. And then I can go in and start with the sound and start clearing at other subtle levels. So one of the examples that I have is I love doing scar therapy on a physical level and on an energetic level. So what happens with the scar is, you know, in acupuncture, we have a technique called surround the dragon. So you put needles around the scar. It brings a lot of chi and blood to the area.

And that's great on its own. But what happens is that trauma is also stuck in the subtle levels of the body. And so when I come in with the sound, while the needles are in there, doing it on the physical and energetic level, I'm using the sound to clear the trauma and the scarring in the energetic bodies. There's such a dramatic shift from the beginning of the session to the end of the session in the appearance and the feel of the scar. So you get a visible, you know, you can see the difference. But I'm always working with scars because we have those in our field all the time.

The sound is so powerful like that. It's so amazing to see the, I guess, to see some of the emphasis that's been on sound lately. It seems to me like we're beginning to rediscover how important sound is. What are some of the healing modalities of sound? Is it the vibration? Is it the wavelength? It is it the, you know, what is it about sound that really interaction? with us and helps us to heal.

I think we're interacting, we're interacting at a fundamental level of vibration. So we take out who we think we are. We take out all the stories. We take out the emotions. And we just drop into the sensation of the vibration. And using healing frequencies brings those dissonant, discordant frequencies of the body into resonance with health and harmony and movement. Right.

So we're moving that block chi, that blocked energy, that block fatality and different frequencies have different effects on the body. It's amazing to me. You know, when I think about tuning forks, can you, like, maybe you could explain how you use tuning force. Does that help the body resonate with different frequencies when you have different tuning for different feelings? Yeah, I mean, I have, I started off with one set of tuning forks,

and now I have a different set of tuning forks that I use. And primarily I use, like, just three now. I've really kind of pared down to my essentials. But I have a set of tuning forks. Where are they here? I hope you can hear it on the mic here. Okay. So these forks I love, these help you get into a state of coherence.

Let me know if you can hear. Yeah. You hear it with the headphones? I can, yeah. Okay. Just start to feel how you feel, just feeling this. Yeah. What do you notice?

I notice like a, I feel like my body is getting warmer. Okay. Yeah. So the difference in these forks is 0.1 hertz, which is the state that gets you in, the frequency that gets you into a coherence. It's the frequency difference between the heart and the brain. So it automatically brings you into that heart coherence and getting the brain to become in line with the heart. Yeah. I love it. Yeah. So this is one. And then this one I use all the time. This is my 528 DNA repair fork. So this one is like my wand. I go to the field and, you know, do a lot of things with this. And when you're working with a person in person, you know, the weighted works are really wonderful to put on the points themselves. But you can go around as well. The lower the frequency, the deeper the penetration of this. So you can work with the emotional body and things like that using lower weighted, lower frequency.

forks and weighted forks. Yeah. It's interesting to think that we can use that particular tone or those frequencies. Are some of them better for different kinds of blockages? Like, say you have an emotional trauma that may have happened to you. Would you use a different type of frequency for emotional trauma versus like an anger issue? Or, I mean, how does that break down? I mean, I think we all have our tools.

So for me, the way that I work now with them is, one, I'm just following the energy of the body. Okay. So is there a particular frequency? Sometimes, yes, like, okay, I want to bring you into coherence. Sometimes, you know, maybe I want to balance the pineal and the high heart and the thalmers and the third eye, that trifalmic connection. So I might do something like that. For me, it's like, how do I want to get this energy to move and what tool will I use? I'm not thinking so much in frequencies and numbers.

I'm thinking, one, who's talking to me? Because they will call out to me. Okay, it's time for me to use this. And so for me, it's just a journey of, you know, gentle invocation. Let's just drop in together with the sound. It's like stepping into a warm water. And then using really balancing frequencies. and then we get a little bit deeper, and then we get a little bit deeper,

and then we start clearing and clearing, and then we balance again. And so it's this dialogue that's happening with the sound and the body, and I'm following and listening and guiding with the sound at the same time. So, yes, there are frequencies that can have specific physical and emotional effects, and there's a lot of great resources, but I find the tools I have are enough for what I need to do to really bring someone back, to balance and harmony. It's interesting. You brought up the term trifalic, trithelic connection?

Tritomic. Yeah, what is that? So these forks are my teacher made and he said that they're there to help link up these high centers. So the third eye, the thalamus, the high heart, and the crown. Watching you receive vibration, I can see a spiraling energy really focused up here. A lot of times I'm bringing people down deeper into the body, but sometimes it's fun to play with, you know, go even higher. Yeah, I like it. What did you notice with those? I did feel as if like there was a vibration moving upwards through me. It was really like a,

like a calming sort of like flexing in a weird sort of way. It's hard to describe like that. I could I could feel the vibration through me. Like even through the, even through the internet, through the mic, I guess it's just the sound that travels through it. That's the power of sound, right? It goes to where it needs to, and it opens up those blocks that are depleting your vitality, your energy, causing you to feel, you know, anxious, stress, all those, all those things we don't want to feel, not just a physical, emotional level, but, you know, any of the

difficulties we have in life, we are experiencing those through the body. And so we can move those blocks. So one of the basics of Chinese medicine is, you know, pain is the result of, you know, your chi being stagnant or obstructed. And so this is all about getting all of that flowing and moving again. So that light, that information, that energy, that chi, that vitality that flows through you, flows through you without obstruction. You know, I was, I forgot where I saw this or read this or spoke to someone about this,

but they were talking about chanting. And like, you know, a lot of the times you'll hear the own. And they equated it. Like, isn't it strange that you still, you have that same sound in home? Like, and it just got me thinking about language and sound and the vibrations of our words and how we're exchanging vibrations constantly just through our language alone. It's kind of amazing. It's exactly that.

I mean, even if you're not saying it out loud and you're thinking that, those words can be encoded with that whatever emotional imprint you have. and they have an influence on your vibration and what you're creating and experiencing in the world. So that's so true. But what I love that you brought that up about sound is we have that tool with us all the time. We drop in and use our voice as a healing tool. It's so true.

Yeah, maybe that's why we find some people, so it's such a pleasure to talk to is like they have this harmonious voice or they're able to use a certain cadence or, you know, I think I really feel like we're just beginning to understand language. There's so much that comes from the sound of our voice, the sound of our mother, the sound of our father, the sound of our children, the sound of our friends. All of them provide us with a different feeling that has the ability to make us feel great or maybe make us feel downtrodden sometimes if we feel like we've done something that we're ashamed of it. But the power of sound, it really seems to be something that at least maybe some people I'm speaking to, but it seems to be something that's making its way to the forefront of healing. Have you noticed that?

Or has it always been that way? Oh, it definitely is, it's coming through in major ways now because when I started, there was like no one. There was no one. It was so hard to find people and find healers and, you know, people to go to. And now it's just, you know, everywhere, which is wonderful. And now you have to be a little bit more discerning, I think, you know, in your journey. But, yeah, I mean, they were like hidden treasures before. It was really going on a vision quest to find those people for yourself.

But, you know, and it still is because I think if you're looking for something specific, it's always a fun journey to find that for yourself. Yeah. A lot of people say it's the journey that is the, that has the healing in it, you know, sometimes going and finding the right person or, you know, finding the treasure along the way. I've once heard where you stumble is where you find the gold, which I think is kind of an interesting one to think about. I've heard that one. Yeah, it's an amazing, you know, when I think about mythology, I'm a big fan of mythology, too, and I think about all the references to vibrations and sound that's found in myth. When I think of like the Iliad and the Odyssey and you have, I think Odysseus crossing the river and he's called by the siren sound of the rocks, how sometimes the sound can bring us to these different places and different elevations. And it's fascinating to me. Can you tell us about a time when you

really used sound to help you get through a crisis in your life? Yeah, yeah. This one came up right away. This was actually, this was interesting. So I've had headaches since I'm eight years old. And those of us who have headaches know how they present. We know what kind of headaches we have. So I started getting these new headaches, new headaches.

back in 2013. And they were like, I mean, off the scale. Like when I look back on this time, I don't know how I survived living through this for as long as I did. And I'd still work, right? I'm still practicing my acupuncture. I'm still treating people and I have my own pain. So I'm driving home from Seattle. And if you've been in Seattle, you know, that could take forever to drive like five

miles and my head is just I can't even see straight. It was probably like a 12 out of 10. And I just all of a sudden get the idea to start making sounds, like letting the sound express itself. This is before I even went to the Globe Institute and started studying with Stephen Halpern and David Gibson and other amazing people. So I started doing this on my own. And it was so painful for me to hear the pain that I was carrying. And at the same time, the pain started to decrease. Like, it was taking the edge off. So I kept toning and toning and letting that pain just express itself.

So it was a very interesting moment because I was witness to my pain, which immediately brought me into this state of deep compassion for myself, as well as transforming the pain at the same time. And so I was able to make it home and then take care of myself. as I needed to, but it let me drive home. So that was the first time I used my voice in that way. It's fascinating to hear being able to get a different perspective on the pain and have it released. I think I see that in a lot of different healing modalities, whether, let us take PTSD, for example,

a lot of people that are wounded through a relationship or something they saw or something that or part of that blockage comes from them, not being able to thoroughly confront what happened to them. You know, and it's just this constant blocking of, I'm not going to think about that. I'm not going to do that. However, different modalities,

sometimes psychedelics or, you know, sometimes talk therapy or definitely sound therapy. It allows you to have this new perspective in a way, maybe hear it different for the first time or hear it in a way you haven't heard it before. What do you think about, you know, sound specifically being able to shift your perspective. Oh, absolutely, because you're shifting your vibration, right?

So you shift your vibration, you're looking at the world and perceiving the world from the new state of being. So absolutely, absolutely. It's fascinating. When I think about the way you perceive the world, you know, I've read a little bit about everything sort of having its own vibration. It would make sense if you change the way you're, vibrating that you change your relationship to the way other things are vibrating.

So your whole model of reality can be shifted. Absolutely. Yeah. And you're designed a particular way. Your particular construct. So you have a unique note and unique vibration that no one else has. Right. And so, you know, you're perceiving the world through that construct through your stories,

through your karma, through your imprinting, through your belief systems, through your programming. I mean, think of all this stuff that has this pure. light and energy has to get through to get to you to perceive. So how accurately are you perceiving it? So what I love about sound, one of my favorite things happens when, you know, the clients on the table, the needles are in, and I start the sound, even online, they drift off into the void. They get out of the way. And that's where I find that deep healing can happen because the conscious mind is not trying to control anything. It's not trying to make up any stories. It's just surrendering. to the vibration of what is. And that creates space to vibrate in alignment with who you are.

And then you experience that reflection back to you in the way that you're experiencing the world. So, and you influence other people that come in contact with your aura. So. I've never thought about it like that. But it, when I begin to think about it, it's in the language. It's like, oh, I'm vibing with this person. Or they have a good vibe.

Like, you know, like, why wouldn't you as an individual who is vibrating on a good level for you being, like, it just seems like that's what would have caused you to be in harmony with your surroundings when you are being your authentic self. And especially if we look at ourselves, like our own unique sound, our own unique vibration, that brings to the idea of harmony. Like, if I am vibrating at my unique level and putting out my, my, my, my. the sound in which I am tuned for, then I should be in harmony with other people that are in tune. And that would invite other people in your life that are vibrating at a perfect kind of. Is that kind of how it works? Or what about relationships, a harmony and personal vibration?

Yeah, I mean, yeah, amazing things happen. A lot of the work I do in relationships I do in here first, right? So it's like, so if I think of a difficult conversation I have to have with a beloved, right? and feeling triggered and activated and angry and I'm thinking about all the things that happened in the past and how I'm going to interact and that's not what I want, right? So I pause and I notice the sensations that I'm having. I'd like to take the story and set it aside. Okay, what am I feeling?

My body's feeling all this stuff in response to what I think, okay, or to the past experience. So I take that, set it aside. What am I feeling right here right now? okay, this feels really uncomfortable. And I sit with that for a moment. I just notice the sensations. Where is it in my body? Maybe it's bringing up older stories that have nothing to do with this person.

And I realize maybe, okay, that's my three-year-old here who's really, you know, crying out. And I just noticed that. And after a while, I take a moment. I'm like, okay, now, what do I want to feel? And immediately I go to my thoughts, right? Because I'm asking myself a question, so my mind wants to answer. answer, but I don't want that to, so then I have to set that aside. But there's a feeling that I want to have. And usually, almost always, my intention is a win, win, win for everybody.

I want us all to walk away feeling uplifted, getting what we need, you know, receiving the highest from this interaction. And what is that feeling like? And then again, I have an idea of what that might be, but that's not even close to the feeling itself. So I have to take myself and my clients, I take them through these steps. Now I've shortened it, but I'm giving you the, you know, the long road. Okay, so I'm having ideas and concepts of what that harmony might feel like, and maybe it's close. Then I go straight to the source. I allow my heart to give me the feeling that I want to experience because it knows exactly that feeling. So then I go to my heart and I wait for that feeling to kind of percolate and spring up and bubble up. And it gives me that

exact feeling and it infuse that situation, that conversation, that relationship with that feeling. And every time it works out magically and sometimes beyond my imagination, and I have a really fascinating example if I can share. Yeah, please. I would love that. We had an altercation with a neighbor, I think a couple of years ago, someone from their house was breaking off the plumeria branches in our backyard and being kind of sneaky about it. I just felt it was really disrespectful, like, just come and ask, you know.

So I went out there, and I'm not a confrontational person, but I went out there to say that, and it got a little, you know, a little heated very quickly. And so after that incident, I did that very process. And I kept noticing it took like a few days. I kept doing it. And I'm like, well, I feel clear. So I don't think this is me, you know, feeling that way anymore because I feel really clear, but I was still hearing the conversation in my head again and again.

So three days after that, someone rings our doorbell, and it's that neighbor. And he's like, I was beside myself all weekend. I am so sorry. He said everything that I had wanted him to say when I tapped into that feeling and that harmony and gave us a papaya plant as a gift. And that papaya is now fruiting. So, I mean, you can't predict how that harmony is going to manifest itself. But all I did was what I told you.

And I just went inside and felt the harmony within myself. Yeah, it's, it's amazing to me to think that we can communicate on levels that we're not even really, most people aren't even aware of, you know, and there's this connection between us if we're willing to take the time to, to nurture it and go inwards and understand what is it really that, what story am I telling myself? What's wrong with that story? And how could that story be different? It is amazing. That's a great story.

Thank you for sharing that. I'm hopeful that we're moving into a world where more people are beginning to understand what they really want, what it means to be authentic, what their problems are, and how they can best solve them. Do you think that when it comes to these different kinds of therapies that people have to want to change in order to have change in their life? Oh, yeah. Yeah.

It's not going to last. It's not going to work. It's like you think of someone who wants to quit. smoking or give up something and they're doing it for someone else, you know, they have a lower success rate than if they're really committed to do it for themselves. There has to be that desire, sure, and that commitment to yourself. Because if we're going back to vibration again, that decision, one, is key. And that commitment kind of tethers you to that new vibrational state that you're seeking to embody. So it anchors you vibrationally to that new state of being.

when I when I think about my life or my individual's life as a song you know there's there's different some people say that the beauty of a song is the silence in between the notes right because you don't you hear the silence but you don't think about that you just think about the different notes but when I think about my life as I'm almost 50 and like I I look back on this wonderful melody sometimes more of a thrash song, sometimes more of a melodous song, but there's transitions in there. And I'm wondering,

do you see different frequencies from different people in different age groups? Or is that something that have you thought about? Does our frequency, does the songs change as we go in life? And is there a pattern to that? That's a good question. I haven't thought of,

well, I don't see it in the way that you're asking the question. I don't see it in like certain groups of people. I see everybody uniquely and I feel them uniquely and I perceive them uniquely because they have a specific signature, energetic signature that I'm tapping into when I'm interacting with people. So we all have our own note and together we, you know, are this amazing symphony. So ask the question again. Have you noticed that people in their lives,

Like their particular note is like a song that's sung throughout, like the life of it, like the song, right? And there are patterns that you notice. Right. So that home note is consistent throughout your information. And I'm even going to say your soul note is the same. That's consistent. What happens is it gets distorted. So your music gets out of tune.

So I'm here to tune people back into harmony and health. And so that's what colors it. Are the stories we tell ourselves, the imprinting, the ancestral patterns, karmic patterns, any kind of trauma that we've experienced in this lifetime and others, multidimensional influences, technological influences, and the bombardment of EMFs and how that's influencing our natural biofield. All of that distorts our music. And so the food we eat, the water we drink, the thoughts we think, all of

those things have vibration. So how are we nourishing ourselves with that information? And that vibration is information. It's light and information. So how are we nourishing ourselves with that? So that stays true. And so for me, I'm always putting people back to this key central channel to align with so everything else can flow around and work efficiently. But that gets distorted. It gets distorted. And then like we talked about, it projects out. You're broadcasting, your sound, your music out into the world and it sounds off. So what's going to happen? That person's going to be reactive to you.

You're going to lose money. You're going to get into a car accident. You know, all of those things. Okay, I need to get back in tune again. Oh, my gosh. I feel amazing today. Well, you know, that conversation went better than I expected. I got a raise, you know, all of these things.

It's a total reflection of the vibration that we are. broadcasting. I love it. And the more that I think about sound, it's such a wonderful metaphor. You know, I think of an equalizer. You know, I'm a little older. So we had like these equalizers when I was a kid. You got like push up the gain, turn down the treble, turn up the base. Like all those things seem to fit so well in the metaphor of sound therapy. Like, yeah, this is a little bassy over here. Hey, well, you're way out of balance. Like, wait, let's tune this one down, put this one up. And like, it just seems you could have such a more clear. clear, crisp, melodious sound radiating from you if you're in tune, do it.

So I'm still to think about that. Thank you. Yeah, absolutely. And I want to say that those bass sounds aren't bad. And those high pitch sounds aren't bad. What we want is to have them broadcast without distortion because they are harmonic, right? So we have these different levels of energy as we move through the body. If you want to look at it through the chakra map, you know, it's just different levels of perception of consciousness at different vibrations.

And so, you know, a lot of the work is uniting these three heavens, the upper, middle, lower heaven, bringing spirit into form. So we're a clear transmitter of the spirit, this, you know, beautiful union of light and form and expressing itself in this dimension. And so there's a lot about bad, you know, frequencies. It's, it's like, you know, whales communicate at like 20 hertz or below 20 hertz. I mean, that's a low frequency. That's not a bad frequency. It's just the way that we use them that can be manipulated for, you know,

negative reasons and stuff like that. Yeah. It's interesting. I know when we start talking about like whales or dolphins, like here, I'm so blessed to live in Hawaii. Sometimes we can go snorkel and you can see the dolphins. And, you know, sometimes there's horrible things that happen. Like the Navy will be doing.

exercises with radar and you'll see them get sick. You'll see someone wash up on the beach. And it's, you know, I don't have the proof to show everybody that, but I've read enough articles and I've spoken to enough marine biologists to say that that particular sort of radar definitely interacting with them in a harmful way. But it brings back to frequencies and how we're all connected. It's kind of mesmerizing. Yeah, I lived outside Seattle for a long time. So we saw that too with our whales. We had that same. Yep. same awareness

yeah it's fascinating to me do you think that being around and having an affinity and a gift and a love and a passion for sound

being so in tune with that environment it allows you to see the frequency of other people might that be the reason why you can see so much in other people

hmm again I haven't thought about these things before I don't know, I think we all can, I think we all perceive it in different ways. We just maybe have been shown how a lot of the things that I talk about with clients is getting them to become attuned to how they are perceiving. Yeah. The frequencies and how it feels in their body because this is how we do it. If we didn't have a body, we wouldn't be able to feel what we're feeling.

This is the interface between our outer inner world, you know, and the nervous system, all of that. So, you know, this is this is the way that we're creating and perceiving, you know, simultaneously and seamlessly with the world around us. This is a, we are a walking resonator of crystalline matrix, you know, like really, we are crystalline beings and broad, you know, we want to be those clear resonators. And we are divine technology. I think we forget that. We forget that. And sound, I think, brings you back to that deep remembrance that we have about who we really are and connecting with that. Yeah, I notice it in different states of awareness.

Like sometimes everybody has their own methods of, maybe not everybody, but I'm hopeful that everybody finds a way to find themselves moving through different states of consciousness. And once you get good at it, then you can find, hey, when I'm in this particular heightened state of awareness, I feel like I can learn a lot more from the environment. When I'm in this particular state, I feel like I can learn a lot through silent meditation. But it's weird when you become tuned to different states of awareness, which you can learn. And it seems, I'm willing to bet later down the line, different states of consciousness will allow us to perform at different levels, to learn at different levels, to, there's different states that allow for different types, the same way different vibrations do that. Like, what do you think about that?

Are we more susceptible to different types of learning or performing in different vibrations? Are we more susceptible to learning? Well, the first thing I want to say is, being able to do that is where our freedom lies. And I think the education has been over the years and the indoctrination has been preventing people from accessing those states of consciousness because they can't be controlled.

And so I think there's a lot of truth to that. I think, you know, being a Montessori teacher as well, you know, people learn in different ways. And so to provide them with the right environment to do that, like is key, you know. I don't know. The kids these days get it really quickly. we can look to them to really learn. But I think providing ourselves with the right environment to do that, like unplug, you know,

get out into nature, get off your devices, you know, literally unplug. Like, what if you shut down your modem for a while? These EMFs, I'm sensitive to EMFs and I've suffered debilitating physical pain from them for years. And so I've had to really learn how to, you know, modify my life and do everything. I'm much better now, but I had to learn a lot along the way. So there's a lot of technological interference. So getting out of nature is key. I think the more disconnected you can be from the virtual world in a lot of ways

and more connected you can be to the natural world, that will be the fastest way for you to access those gifts. Yeah. I'm curious to get your thoughts on this. I got so many cool questions. This is why I love talking to amazing people. I always come up with new questions when I start thinking. about what's going on in the world and people who are attuned to different ideas.

I wonder if culture has its own frequency. You know, if you look at like different generations and different cultures, like they seem to have a generational vibe. Like there's boomers and Xers and millennials and they all have their own flavor to them a little bit. Do you think that each culture or each generation has sort of its own attunement? Absolutely. I mean, I remember being in acupuncture school and we would talk about how Americans or suffer from liver-cheese stagnation.

You don't get it like this in other culture. So absolutely, because we're talking about like a collective consciousness and imprint that's influencing our vibration that we've chosen, you know, on a soul level to come in and experience. So, yes, absolutely. I mean, just think back even to the times in your life. Each time in your life has a particular vibration and feel to it, right? I mean, if you take, like we talk about,

if you take the story away and you just feel through everything, you know, it gives you a sense of, of that music for yourself. Yeah, that makes perfect sense. Sometimes I've been in spots in my life where my thoughts and my heart don't align. You know, it's like, I think this, but I don't feel that way.

And that's usually a really big area of where problems begin or problems. Maybe that can be a sign of where a problem needs to be solved. Hey, you're thinking this, but you feel this? You better get an alignment right there. That could be something that manifests as stress or heartache. or relationship problems.

It's interesting to think about it from that angle right there. You know, Bree, you and I were talking a little bit before the show. Would it be possible for you to give me and the listeners a reading of a little snapshot, a little hors d'oeuvre of what it is that you do? I would love to do that. Oh, me too. My goals are already singing once you said that. I can hear that.

I love that. Okay. So all you need to do. do is just sit back and make in the sounds. Fantastic. Yeah. So we've been sitting here talking and people have been listening and, you know, there's a lot of energy to that. So just notice how you feel right now. And this how you feel the energy around you and through you. Notice how you're breathing or if you're not breathing. Notice where that energy is moving or not moving. Notice where that energy is moving or not moving through your body. And then just gently begin to breathe through the

center of your chest. Allow the heart to breathe you. Allow that life force to flow in through the portal in the center of your chest all the way deep into the heart space and breathe from there. Beautiful. Okay, so just do a little mini reading on what's showing up in the field here with the sound. And as I'm doing that, I just invite you to notice how the sound feels, how your body's responding to the information of the sound and the information that comes through. So immediately going to an old car accident and a spinal injury. Also some knee problems, focusing on the left knee primarily right now. Something about school and confusion around course of study, wanting to make a change, but feeling unsure because it's so dramatically different from the path you've been on

and what's been expected of you. So feeling really stuck and making a change that you know you would feel aligned with and fulfilled, but there's also an underlying feeling of disappointing others. It's an emotional pattern around a child, seeing a baby, and someone who's sick might be the child, might be someone else, I don't know. And something going on with the digestive system. I don't know if someone has like colitis, something going on with the colon, some sort of digestive problem. It doesn't look like too inflamed, but it doesn't look healthy either. And then some residual respiratory issues, you know, sometimes, you know, we've been sick, but we feel like we've recovered, but not fully. And so those old illnesses can still stay

kind of embedded in your energetic body, just like any trauma. You might have moved on from the loss. You might have moved on from the accident. You might have moved on from the accident. You might have moved on from the broke up, the breakup, but that pain is still in the field, influencing how that energy is flowing through you and broadcasting out into the world around you. So picking up the frequency of grief. So I'm just going to go in there now for a little bit and start to loosen that up. Taking a gentle breath in. Notice how your body feels here now. Notice how your breath is moving. Just gently bring that breath down to your top. toes so they start to wiggle, bringing the next breath into your fingers until they start to wiggle.

And then when you're ready, open your eyes and join us back in this new vibrational state. Now there's still a lot moving, even though the sound has stopped. So I just want to invite you to continue to notice how it does that through you through several days and just to stay hydrated because it can up lift uproot uncover things to bring them up and out to be released. This was a very short session, but there was a lot of emotional content that we went into, especially when the shakers started. And so for anyone who's listening, I just want you to be gentle with yourself. And if there's a replay, you might want to listen to this recording again. Yeah. Yeah, that's wonderful. I can, I feel

the sensations in my fingertips and in the tips of my toes. Like I can feel like the heartbeat going through my body. It's pretty amazing. Thank you for that. You're welcome. Wonderful. Yeah, and there's there's a lot that you hit on as far as, you know, making changes and loss of a child. And, you know, there's a lot there. It's, it's amazing to see, listen to and sit with the traumas in our life and know that other people can see them too. I think that that's very rewarding. And I can't think of the right word, but it's hopeful and wonderful and awful and the true sense of the word full of awe to know that people can see the traumas in which you've gone

through in your life and they can help you through them. I think that's beautiful. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, that's one of the, I love when I hear, like when I do my group sessions, So many who are like, wow, I feel like you were speaking directly to me. And we all carry these fractals of the same imprints. And so when we come together, it's such a powerful way to heal with one another. It is a powerful way to do it.

It's hard to talk. It is. Yeah. I'm like just, ah. Pam, it's wonderful to think about the way in which we have the power to heal each. other. It seems for so long we've relied on outsourcing our health to a system that may not have the best intentions for us. And it seems that my opinion is that we're moving into this new world where people are becoming more authentic. They're finding the courage to become the person they want

to be. Have you noticed that shift or do you think that's maybe just something that a few people are seeing or is there a pattern there? How do you know? is the world changing? I mean, just as an acupunctrist alone, I mean, you know that people were looking for alternative ways to treatment because, you know, insurance companies started to put us on their plans. You know, I never dealt with insurance companies. That wasn't part of my paradigm. But, you know, people were looking for other things to help them and support them. So that was one way. Yeah, I think, you know, there's a lot of a lot happening and people are looking for ways to to find answers for themselves, to feel better because, I mean, the collective, the collective trauma

that's happening and continues to happen, again, you know, is serving us in a way because it's creating what we need to get to that next level. Because if we were comfortable, we're not going to change. And so what level of discomfort are you ready to really break out of your old paradigm and step into, you know, who you really are and be your authentic self and bring your light, bring your magic, bring your, you know, gifts, bring your genius into the world, do what you're meant here to do, you know, even if it's just to smile at everyone that you see that you come across every day, you know, how can we uplift others, how can we be responsible for our own vibration and what we're energetically putting out into the world? Because that's what we're going to see back.

And there's so many beautiful tools out there today that can help you do that. that I use in my work and with my clients are really gentle but profound. I mean, the effects are profound. People, you know, are really releasing most of this year a lot, a lot of grief. I'm seeing a lot of grief, a lot of anger, a lot of sadness. It keeps coming up, not just because we're in that time of year where that's, you know, most prevalent, but it's been happening before, you know, Yeah, I'll just pause there. It brings to mind the idea of different times of year. You brought up winter, and sometimes we do see people,

even though it's billed as this happy time of year, the holidays. Like there's a lot of people that are alone. There's a lot of suffering. When I think about times of years, I start thinking like the summer solstice or the winter solstice. Are those particular times or other times like that throughout the year where readings are different? Yeah, I love that question.

I do notice that for myself. I'll do special sonic acupuncture sessions on the portals like Lionsgate. I used to do them every new moon and full moon, but I've taken this step from that. I've done them on the solstice. I just did one for 11-11, and I do them monthly anyway. But when I do these on these special kind of alignments, although I believe there's benefit to every transit,

every alignment, there's something and everything. but definitely different information comes through, especially Lionsgate. Lionsgate is always fun. It's just amazing what comes through for that. But yes, it's true. I mean, we are, you know, one with nature, we are part of that, you know, geometry. And so how it influences our being, how do we move through the cycle of time or what we perceive as time, the construct of time, in a resilient, balanced and aligned way, rather than feeling, you know, overwhelmed or pressured or all the things that we know time can do. That's why I don't wear a watch.

That's why I don't want to watch in like 40 years. So, yes. So how do we stay balanced in every moment? But there definitely is a special connection and information that comes through during those times that I really enjoy. Yeah. It's interesting that you bring up time. It's such a construct that we have. And it seems to me, in some ways, it's so limiting when you're forced to look at a clock. I have to do this for this long, or I've been doing this, or I have to be to work at this time. On some level, it's just like these giant blinders you put on so that you can't really focus on now. So it traps you in the past or it forces you to live in the future. And there's so much depression and anxiety around those two construct. And yeah, time is an interesting concept to think.

about as far as the way we use it in our life. Yeah. And your body dictates that. Like I have a really good sense of time. Like I know when it's time to leave. I know when it's time to do this. Like my body tells me, I don't know if we're all wired that same way, but we are wired in a way that links us up with our flow. And when we get in contact with our own flow, which is at the dictate of our own heart, and we're connected with that and we become, you know, the passenger to the, to this trip, you know, you find a lot more ease and grace in your daily life for sure. So, yeah, time can be not so fun.

But it's fun to travel. I love time travel. I love global universes. I love exploring those other possibilities. You know, everything, there's so many ways we can look at it because everything is now. And so, you know, there's not a past life. It's really another lifetime that you're experiencing. Like right now simultaneously, it's all super.

But where our awareness is dropped in is into this incarnation. So when you start to play with those fields, you have access to so much more information. And you have the leverage to transform things because let's say there was unfinished business and another incarnation that they lived, okay, just to make it simple. And then you change in this life, just like we talked about and you make the change here, you can affect your world. well, you can affect all those other incarnations that you've experienced as well when you shift because, you know, you're connected to all of that at the soul level.

And so it's, it becomes a lot of fun. Yeah. I've had some fascinating experiences where I felt that I got to cross over and begin living the life of me in a different time. You know, and I know that sounds crazy probably to people hearing that, But I think sometimes you walk, like you said, you're living all these lives simultaneously. And there are times, I think, when you can decide, I'm going to live in this one now, or I'm going to live in this one now.

And if you're aware of it, like, it's pretty mind-blowing to think about, oh, that was when I was George this person. Or that's when I was George the truck driver. That's when I was George the kid. Or, you know, I think now I'm going to live George this way. You know, it fundamentally helps you break the condition models of reality when you understand that you can walk in a different life if you choose to. It takes some work. And you may move back and forth between that line sometimes, but you can at least walk closer to the level you want to be.

You can walk closer in the shoes that you want to walk in. Have you ever had that particular situation happen? Or maybe you have something similar to that? Oh, yeah. I totally know what you say. The thing about it, too, is like, okay, well, from this lifetime, and I've used my power. And that's why I'm not, you know, stepping into my genius right now. I'm scared of my power.

Or I was violently, you know, tortured in like 3,000 other lifetimes in dimensions and experiences. And so, you know, that's why I'm riddled with pain in this lifetime. So we can use it in a way to facilitate healing and transformation. And that's what I love about, you know, the work that I do is because it can travel, you know, multidimensional to all those places. As far as personal experience, I mean, yeah, I mean, I have visceral memories of, you know, a child being torn from me and, you know, left, you know, and abused and tortured. I have memories of Atlantis. I have memories of Egypt. I have, I had an experience of there being nothing outside of myself. And if I were to look outside the window,

there would be nothing because everything that was outside was actually inside of me. I've crossed over into other realms, surprisingly, in the bathroom. And at one point I was like, oh, my God, what if I fall and someone finds me or pass down and I hit my head or something? So I kind of stopped that. But yeah, I mean, it's, I think these are useful references to have, just to say that we're more than who we think we are, and nothing is as it seems. What is your relationship to dreaming?

Well, I have different types of dreams. Some are very like, I don't know, whatever's my release. Sometimes they tell me things. I lived the van life for over three years. Yeah, epic. So, you know, living on the road like that really affected my dream life because, you know, places have a lot of energy based on what happened there. and I remember like some places that we would sleep,

I would wake up like just freaked out by things because of the energy that was still in the field where I was sleeping, so that influenced my astral realm quite a bit. So my relationship with dreaming. I've practiced lucid dreaming for some time. I don't, my sleep is kind of erratic these days, so I don't even know what to say about that. But I've dabbled.

I've dabbled in the dream world. I feel like the dream world is here. I'm awake a lot of times and that I can have just as much flexibility with it now and when I'm sleeping. But I would use my dreams constructively when I was at university. I was an English major. And I had to write a lot of papers. And I would leave the computer on. I had an old Mac, those old Macs.

And I would go to sleep with the question in mind, and I would wake up with exactly what I needed to write. And so I would use it constructively. Yeah, it's such a fascinating time. I have a dream journal, and I try to write down stuff or my dreams in there. And sometimes I find that the daydream can be just as significant as the nighttime dream. You know, I find myself just kind of zoning out sometimes, sitting outside or at work sometimes or just having this ability to change the way I see reality through the day. And I'm hopeful that people listening to this or just people in general will find more affinity for their dreams or they will find more ways to embrace their dreams.

So that's acting them out in life or just paying attention to the different nuances that happen to them. We're in that state. I think so much of answers can come. Like you said, when you fall asleep and you're looking for an answer, you wake up with it. Or sometimes you get to have that sense of deja vu when you accomplish something. Oh, yeah, I dream that. You know, like there's so many cool things that can happen. But I'm always curious to hear about people's dreams and their relationship to it.

And do you, are we in, I know that there's different states and different, like, theta and any different. states we go through when the dream cycle. Are those vibrational as well? Do you know? Yeah, their particular hurts. I think data is like four hertz, something like that. And so you can use sound to access those states. I mean, Monroe Institute, they have, you know, their program and their, their music and stuff gets you to those states very quickly. So yeah, you can use specific frequencies to help you access those states, specifically binaural beats because they're so low. Like I did with the forks I use for heart coherence, it's 0.1 difference. So we can't hear that.

So we have to use two different frequencies so our brain can process the difference between that to access that state of vibration. So you can use that with tuning forks as well. Yeah. It's fascinating to me to see the, I've noticed, too, with the different people I've spoken to. I've been speaking to some people who are really helping out people with psychedelic therapy. And some of the places that I spoke to, they use sound therapy involved with that. And it

seems like we're beginning to move towards this layering of different modalities that can really help shift people's awareness, shift their focus and their vibration to a different form of healing. And that just seems like it's been so absent in modern day healing for so long. I'm so happy to see it kind of returning. Do you have any thoughts on layering different modalities? Oh, yeah. My old partner and I, we worked together. We actually just worked together again last week, doing a gathering here in South Florida. And he's a masterful breath facilitator and body worker. And so our sessions were called Double the Love. And so what I find is that we did the needles and the breath and the bodywork and the sound. And this one was just a sound breath and acupuncture thing, no real not a lot of body work in this one. But it definitely facilitates the process. Again, it's a dance between my partner and us and the client and the energy of the group

and the sound just invites you to go deeper. I find that even when I was working with my friend who's a massage practitioner and the client came to seeing me first, she could get into the body a lot more deeply because I created all this space for her to get. get in there. And so that's kind of how the layering, too, even with the needles. The needles, you know, work their magic at that level, and then I can get into those places that the needles opened me up to as well. So the combination of modalities is, is wonderful, and, you know, I highly recommend it. So I love, I love those sessions where we get to work together.

Got rid of a migraine with that. Wonderful. Nice. A little healing happening here today. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's, you know, and you think about those, you know, rituals like I've never done an ayahuasca journey, but, you know, they chant and they sing.

And there's a lot to the vibration of what those, that language is and that music is that creates the space and container for you to experience your journey. I mean, we're dealing with ancient technology of which we are. Yeah, it's almost like returning home when you find yourself in a ceremony. And it sounds like a ceremonial setting to me where you have people that have their intentions aligned, different healing modalities and people that want to receive the medicine. I think that there's something to be said about that particular type of container that allows, for the healing to move through each other and the energy to be transferred through vibrations and sound and understanding and intention. In some ways, I see it as a as a return home.

Like it just sounds, maybe we're back to own, you know, return home. It's wonderful to me. Yeah, yeah, for sure. I agree. I mean, for me, when I look at it, especially if I'm looking at an individual or a group, there's a geometry to that light. I like that. Yeah. And so getting that geometry aligned so it can spin, and then we get that beautiful, you know, torsion

and happening through, yeah, the group energy. It's it. I'm curious if you know. I read a little bit about light therapy. And like red light therapy has like a different wavelength and then blue light has a different wavelength. And I'm wondering, do those work in unison with sound? I mean, they seem like they're both waves.

Do those mesh together in any way? Absolutely. And that's something I use in my personal life. I used it with my family. I remember years ago, we got these special filters, and we would shine them on the different water, and the water would taste different. And so we were like, oh, I like the red water.

I like the green water. And then my father was going through a health challenge last year, I started using the filters again. So he would drink the water and we would use particular wavelengths of light. And then I would needle him also. So I definitely incorporated that into the session. Absolutely. There's even information about how you can correlate different frequencies to different colors.

And so there is information out there around that. These two chimes that I use in all my sessions, like the C and G, which are really nice and balancing, These equate to like a green, which is a very neutral color that you can use. But there's a lot of wonderful old books. I think Let There Be Light is the book that I have around the use of this filters. And the stories and case studies in there are really, really powerful. I used light therapy to get rid of the UTI. I had to go on a road trip, and I was in a lot of pain.

Those of you who have had UTIs know exactly what I mean. And all I did was bring the flashlight with the light, and I was shining it under my shirt and taking my probiotics and crayon, you know, all the stuff that I just, and it was gone in a few hours. Wow. And the pain stopped within moments of shining the light. Yeah. So, yeah.

You had mentioned the Monroe Institute. Like, are there, maybe you could talk a little. a little bit about what they do and maybe some other resources people could look at. Yeah, I've never been to their facility. I've listened to their programs, though. I have their gateway CDs and stuff, which I use for years. Robert Monroe is a consciousness explorer. And they created the hemisink technology to bring you into whole brain balance and synchrony

to access different states of consciousness. And so they can take you to different states of awareness through their methods, through their sounds, through their process. So if anyone's interested, they can check it out. Some of my teachers have spent a lot of time there as well and have had amazing experiences. I know they have programs to help you guide people who are discarnate spirits to the light and things like that. It's really beautiful. Yeah, yeah, it's interesting. You bring up a book and you say it's an old book.

My grandpa used to say if you want a new idea, read a really old book. You know, there's a way of the information flowing back to us in some ways. I think it's really cool to think about it. Are there any other books that you could recommend to people who might be curious about some of the things that you've been doing? Oh my gosh. Now I'm going to draw blank. Always when you put on a spot. Probably a lot of good research you could find.

in the library or if you could just Google, you know, some, like the Monroe Institute or, or you already gave the book, Let There Be Light, you know, there's probably others that would come up. Yeah. I mean, it depends which avenue you want to go. I mean, if people want to reach out and ask for specific things and I can give, you know. Yeah. I have my favorites, but it's not related to sound.

Right. Right. Brea, I really enjoyed this conversation. And I really enjoyed getting to see firsthand the effects of what you do. And even though it was a short session, I'm thankful and I feel great about it. And if people were looking to reach out to you, where can people find you? And what do you have coming up and what are you excited about? Oh, thanks.

Yeah. So my website has the most up-to-date information of my offerings. And then if people subscribe to my newsletter, they get weekly inspiring messages and, you know, things like that. I next let's see December 7th I have my last sonic acupuncture session of the year I also do readings so I have you know 20 24 year ahead review sessions I have cohorts that I do for staying in tune with the season so like we were talking about I started that this year with fall and so each season I'm offering like an opportunity to go deeper with the sound to you know each each season. has organs and elements that are at its height during that time. So to really stay in balance with

the season of fall, for example, would be to harmonize the metal element, the long, large intestine, the energy of grief, winter we're going into the bladder and kidney time, the energy of stillness, and seeing what gifts are there for you as well as staying in balance with your energy with that time of year. So I have things like that coming up. And yeah, I've always inspired to offer things. But consistently, there are always ways to connect. I offer private sessions as well for anyone who wants to experience this one-to-one group, workshops, all sorts of things. In person, if you're in the South Florida area, you can experience it in person. Yeah. Yeah, it's fascinating. I would recommend everybody go to the show notes and check it out.

Check out the new book, Heel, where she's written a beautiful piece. in there and go back and listen to this this particular podcast and take a moment to see how you feel and see what resonates with you. Check out sound therapy and check out acupuncture, but more, most of all, check out of all. Check out all the show in us down there. She's an amazing woman. She's doing really cool stuff. And I want everyone to go and check out a website. So, Brie, hang on briefly afterwards. I'm going to talk to you briefly, but to everyone listening, I'm super thankful that you were here today. I hope you enjoyed the conversation as much as we did. and I hope you have some new insights into the power of sound healing.

And that's all we got for today, ladies and gentlemen. Aloha. Thank you.