TrueLife - Cannabis, Kindness, and Kelly: A High Love Affair

Episode Date: October 28, 2023

One on One Video Call W/George https://tidycal.com/georgepmonty/60-minute-meetingSupport the show:https://www.paypal.me/Truelifepodcast?locale.x=en_US🚨🚨Curious about the future of psychedelics? Imagine if Alan Watts started a secret society with Ram Dass and Hunter S. Thompson… now open the door. Use Promocode TRUELIFE for Get 25% off monthly or 30% off the annual plan For the first yearhttps://www.district216.com/Kelly is warm, welcoming, supportive friend to many, and she is deeply in love with cannabis. She is kind to everyone, and a big part of her impact is in spreading the kindness and love that the cannabis plant would want for us within the cannabis community.Kelly brings a wealth of experience as an educator, counsellor, and builder of community to her work in founding KGL. She is a Certified Reiki Practitioner, and is studying plant medicines and other healing modes to add to her skill set. She has been practicing reiki on cannabis plants, saying “Goddess Bless” as she prays over them for a fruitful harvest. Motivated by the spiritual aspects of the plant, Kelly was ordained as a Minister in 2020, and holds “The Cannabis Church of KGL” as a celebration of unity, community, and respect for the cannabis plant and her divine properties.For her role in advancing cannabis and advocacy for the eventual inclusion of cannabis lounges under The Cannabis Act, Kelly has been recognized in several media publications on the international stage. She has appeared on media across Canada, The United States, and also on Australian T.V.https://kellysgreenlounge.ca/ One on One Video call W/George https://tidycal.com/georgepmonty/60-minute-meetingSupport the show:https://www.paypal.me/Truelifepodcast?locale.x=en_USCheck out our YouTube:https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPzfOaFtA1hF8UhnuvOQnTgKcIYPI9Ni9&si=Jgg9ATGwzhzdmjkg

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Kelly Addison, a true beacon of kindness and love within the cannabis community. Kelly's passion for cannabis, her open-hearted support for friends and her unwavering dedication to spreading the benevolence of the cannabis plant are truly remarkable. In her journey, she has worn many hats from educator and counselor to community builder. Her unique approach including being a certified Riki practitioner and applying her healing touch to cannabis plan speaks to her deep spiritual connection with this remarkable herb. Her ordination as a minister in 2020 and the creation of the Cannabis Church of KGL. Stan is a testament to her commitment to unity, community, and profound respect for the divine properties of the cannabis plant. Her efforts in advancing cannabis advocacy and her role in pushing for the inclusion of cannabis lounges,

under the Cannabis Act have earned her recognition on the global stage. Her presence has graced media outlets in Canada, the United States, and even as far as Australian television, demonstrating the widespread impact of her work. And last but not least, Kelly is passionately strive to save our planet through cannabis and hemp. We can't help but admire her sense of humor and her lofty aspirations, including the dream of making a connection with the one-only Jason Mamoa. This is very old. I was like, where's he going with this?

Oh, did you get that one from? Probably my website, which hasn't been updated in a while. I'm currently married to a much more beautiful man than Jason Mamoa, but I did have a little bit of a crush on him many years ago prior to meeting my husband. Rich, I'm sorry if you're hearing this. I don't want to be with him anymore. I am in Hawaii, you know. I'm just throwing that out there, you know.

I know that. I know a little bit too much about him and we'll just move off that subject before I go tomato red. Nice. Very nice. Kelly, I'm so stoked you're here today. You know, it's such an interesting time to be alive. The world of cannabis and hemp is moving at an incredible speed. Maybe you can share us a little bit of a background like where you're at now versus where you were a few years ago.

Oh, my goodness. Well, I mean, less than a decade ago, I was working as a teacher. shaping young minds. And using cannabis, I mean, recreationally and not recognizing it for its healing or therapeutic properties at all, just, you know, smoke a joint while you drink alcohol or whatever it was to nowadays when I don't drink alcohol at all, I don't eat meat, I don't put anything processed in my body, and I only use cannabis all day long for medicine, wellness, homeostasis, balance, everything. So my entire life has changed since I found cannabis. in the way that I have in the intimate way that I have.

You know, it's interesting. When I hear people talk about the relationship with it. When I was younger, I used to see cannabis in the same way. It was always about the name. Like, oh, I'm going to get the White Widow or I'm going to get this Cannabis Cup Winter 95 over here. But as my relationship grew with it, all of a sudden you realize there's this incredible turpene profile and there's all these things that maybe we didn't understand before. If you can speak to some of the your maturing relationship with it and like what are some of the

new nuances that you have found with this new relationship? Wow. I mean, I've taken courses from different universities and colleges all over North America to learn about different things from the science of cannabis to interpening and the different breakdowns of the different compounds. And it is just the most fascinating plan. And I have to say this, I'm not a person that likes math or science or anything like that by nature.

So to have to sit in these kinds of courses is just like for the brain. It's worth it because learning about it is just so I can teach about it. I've written two courses with two other very incredible educators, Andrea Mahargue and Stacey Bobag. I have to always make recognition of them. And with the two courses that I've written, I wouldn't have been able to write them. I wouldn't be able to speak about it. I wouldn't be able to do any of the things that I have are doing now without the education that I had learning about cannabis.

And it's fascinating because the education, that I've learned is almost obsolete now in my terms, in the cannabis educational terms, because it's so fast-paced and there's so much that we're studying and learning about the plant all the time. I mean, I think there was, when I was taking courses, there was maybe, oh, we'd recognize 30 different cannabinoids. I think there's the recognition of almost 40, 45 now the last I've heard. I might even be off with that, but we're learning about that and hearing about all these compounds all the time. So I will say that I love loved being educated about it. I've loved teaching about it, but I can't keep up with it. That's for sure.

It's fascinating to me. I love the idea of plant medicine and education, especially like there's this unique relationship that happens when you take plant medicine. You learn a lot about yourself. You learn a lot about relationships, right? With plant medicine, the connection, I believe in a deep connection to the plant. So the plant allows you to have those relationships in a more, in a deeper way, in a more profound way. I believe that everyone needs cannabis, right from birth even. Yes, infants need cannabis, not to be high or intoxicated, not at all. Maybe even not with a cannabinoid that we've discovered yet.

But I believe that humans need these compounds for our endocannabinoid system. So if we're moving on towards later in life and we're recognizing that, then we're going to find that balance and that wellness. And that's how we can speak about it. Yeah, it's fascinating to think about on some level our connection with nature. And it seems for maybe, I'm not sure what happened, but it seems like we kind of went off on this path of maybe the industrial revolution or something like that. But we kind of got away from nature in so many ways, like getting away from the plants and getting away from who we are, right? Well, I mean, we got away from nature in almost every way that you can think of.

people are eating meat, people are using pills, people are drinking alcohol, anything that has been changed by the hand of man into whatever it is. I mean, if you have a natural herb that's been made into a pill to be used to cover up some kind of ailment, then you've got one thing to cover up another, and then you've got polypharmacy. I could go off on that. But what I mean is, is that if you just kept it natural, if you just went back to the plants and the trees and the nature and Mother earth, you would find that all of your answers and everything you need is grown here. We don't need to be killing animals. We don't need to be changing things into chemicals.

We don't need to be doing those things because most of the ailments and most of the diseases that we're finding are deficiencies of the endocannabinoid system. And they're actually man-made things that are happening. We take in toxins from the food that we're eating. We're taking toxins from the environment, from the stress. And then the doctors are giving you pills to cover up those things instead of getting to the root of the problem. What we need to do is get to the root of what the issue is. It's almost always in the mind because our body, our bellies and our mind are connected, our skins connected

to our minds and our hearts. And when we're not aligning that up with nature, with the spirit, with the mind-body-spirit connection, then we're getting sick. And we're using all of these horrible things to cover up those sicknesses. Even people drinking themselves to sleep at night. I'll just have one, I'll just have two, and I'll just fall asleep as I watch a screen. go for a walk with your bare feet outside, take in nature, smoke a great joint, and you will have the best sleep of your life. That's great advice. Yeah, it's interesting how we fill our minds with the ideas and unrealized dreams of ourselves and other people. And, you know, we really, we make all these connections.

But it seems to me that we're lacking real connection in some ways. You know what I mean by that? We're making connections and stuff, but they're not the real tight connections that we need to be healthy. It's not the connections we need to be fulfilled in life. And I think that cannabis can really help with that. I think it really causes you to just stop for a minute and ask yourself, like, what's important in my life? Have you found that to be similar? It breaks down the barriers, too.

So, you know, when you're communicating, when you're consuming cannabis together, when usually you're getting into a conversation of something. And even the best of, and even the worst of strangers can become the best of friends I've heard people say over a joint. And the thing is, is that, and I'm not always saying that joints are the way that you need to consume cannabis. I always have to stop and say that too,

because you can use tincture, you can use addibles, or you can drink cannabis drinks, or any of the different ways that you can use to consume cannabis. But in this sense, let's imagine smoking a joint. And let's imagine that it's before COVID, because people were still passing around.

So you're together, and most of the time, you're together with people that maybe you don't know or, you know, you're out at a social gathering. You're going to become really good friends with them by the time that joint is done. And after the time that you finish consuming it, you're going to become really good friends with them because you've broken down those barriers. You're connecting through cannabis. That's what I call the cannabis spirituality, connecting to others and connecting to the plant. When we consume cannabis, we're able to taste things better.

We're able to see things better. We can hear music better. And so why can't we communicate better? And I always say we parent better as well. I teach a course on how to talk to your kids about cannabis. And I say, go and smoke that joint. If you have a stressful day and you need to get down and play with your children, go consume before you do that.

Whatever method you consume, because you're going to interact with your children and you're going to play better. You're going to have that barrier down. So connectivity really happens when you are consuming cannabis. Yeah, I think that in certain heightened states of awareness, we're able to take in more information. And sometimes that could be a surreptitious smile on someone, or you can see the way that their eye crinkles a little bit, or you can really understand the way that they're listening to you or they're talking to you. And sometimes we can't do that in just average states of consciousness, where we're so busy focusing on probably ourselves. and the things happening in our life, then the conversation, right?

Screens. We're focused on screens. We're focused on the phone in our hand. We're focused on the television screen. We're focused on the computer. And how is that interacting? Even now, you and me, we're hanging out here, but we're not really hanging it, are we? And so, I mean, the thing is, is that when we lose that energy of that inner person energy,

we start putting up barriers and we start separating ourselves from humanity. And that's really what's happened in the last couple of years. are suffering mentally, and the reason why they're suffering mentally is because they're losing connection. I mean, so much has happened in the last couple of years because of the apocalypse, right? We have people that have lost their homes, their lives, their families, their jobs, have a whole world that's turned upside down. And with that, they've isolated themselves. So they've become, you know, separated from different places of society. I'd rather be inside. We know we can't go back in there. Tourism has gone down. Travel has gone

down, but you know what's going up? Screens, stream yard, screens, Zoom, people just connecting over different methods of electronics. And so we lose that interpersonal touch. I recently watched a documentary about people that live over 100 years old. I think they're called centurions and all the different various places all over the world where people are living to over 100. And one of the things that they say is the most important is connection, connection to each other, like real deep connection. And whether that's a spouse or a partner or that's a little community of four or five people that just have each other's back and have that conversation. And so when you think about that, adding cannabis in that, right?

And so now you've got that, you've allowed yourself that openness to have those conversations and you're not sitting in front of a screen. Yeah, I love it. it's so spiritual to me, like the act of consuming cannabis, especially if you're smoking a joint or something like that. It harkens back to ceremonies and rites of passage. And what do you think is a relationship? When you think about spirituality and cannabis, what do you think about? Well, I mean, I use cannabis to pray.

I use cannabis to meditate. I use cannabis when I'm practicing yoga. So anything that I do that is spiritual. well, I do alongside cannabis and I use cannabis for that deeper connection. I have, and I don't know if you'll know the term greening out, I'm sure that you do. Greening out means overconsumption of cannabis. It's happened to most people that consume cannabis regularly at some point in time. Maybe they're expecting a low dose edible and they have a stronger edible than they were expecting

or, you know, the bigger toke or the bigger bong hit or whatever it is. And greening out makes your system shake and you feel really cold. And sometimes you feel like, oh, my God, I'm going to die. I have to call 911. I'm losing my mind. Everything's going to happen. And your mind just starts reeling and reeling and reeling. And most people don't want that feeling.

And it makes them suffer. I've chosen that feeling to green myself out because I believe that's your true connection to yourself and your true connection to spirit. And it's terrible. I don't recommend it. It's awful the feeling. But if you can get past that fear, that, you know, that, oh my God, that feeling of, you know, unwellness.

And you can just really go inside. You can deal with trauma. You can deal with your heart. You can deal with spirit connection to whatever it is that you pray to. And so I pray to many different overall universal bodies. I pray a lot to Krishna. I don't know if you know the Harry Krishna mantra. I'm sure you might have heard of the Beatles at some point in time.

George Harrison was a very big Krishna. conscious practitioner. And so that might have been your only connection. And that's the only way when I say Harry Krishna people go, no, I don't really know what that means, but that's the only thing I can think of. They mostly other people think that they're chanting on a corner with like tambourines. And it's nothing to do with that. Well, it is, but not really. And so when I think of praying, I think of sending off prayers to Krishna. But I also, you know, talk to Jesus sometimes. He was a really big spiritual figure back, I guess, 223 years ago, if you believe the Bible. or whatever it is that you follow.

So connection, spirituality, and as an ordained minister of cannabis spirituality, I connect to the plant mostly. So I use the cannabis plant and consuming it to be able to find those openings and to be able to speak to that. I read tarot. I practice rakey and all of those different metaphysical things. And that's just, you know, the vessel that I use to be able to do that. I love it.

Yeah? I've never really like, when you talk about, greening out. Like, I know what that is, but I've never heard anyone describe the therapeutic nature and the way that you have, but that makes so much sense. If you can sit with that, if you can sit with that uncomfortableness, you can really get some work done. You can be like, why am I thinking like this? Oh my God, I'm freaking out about that. I should be. I should be freaking out about that. You know, like, maybe you can talk a little bit more about that. I think that's really important. The plant gives you what you need at all times.

if you intentionally use it. So if you sit down and you say, okay, I'm going to consume my cannabis right now. I want to consume my cannabis for meditation. And you take that. You say, I'm consuming my cannabis for meditation right now. The plant is going to give you whatever you need for that meditation. If you say, I'm consuming my cannabis right now

because I want my plate of food to taste so good and my movie to be extra funny, and you're going to get that from your cannabis. Intentional use of cannabis is that spiritual connection to it. So when you're saying, I need answers. I need answers, Mother Cannabis. I need answers, Mother Earth. I need answers.

I have questions. I have sorrow in my heart. I have pain in my mind. Whatever it is that you're feeling. And if you intentionally use cannabis to go deep, and I mean go deep, just overconsume. Take that extra bite. Take that extra hit. Whatever it is that you're doing.

And just go in there. And yes, you're going to cry. And yes, you're going to feel really cold. So make sure you have a nice, snugly bite. blanket or some sort of bath maybe or something to make yourself feel good. Don't do it for long. Just go as far deep as you can, but I urge you to do it. It makes you feel so much more relief. Crying is so good for you. Your eyes would not water if they were not supposed to. You wouldn't be crying if you were not supposed to. So cry if you need to. But make yourself warm and then watch that

funny movie later, your favorite one and find whatever goodies that you do because it's hard work, but it's worth it. Yeah, I think it's a famous quote from Terrence McKinna where he says, when he was asked about how much should you take? And his response was always something along the lines of. Well, if you take an amount and you don't immediately say to yourself, holy cow, I've taken too much, I think I'm going to die. Then you haven't taken enough.

You know, like you should take that next shot to push you over the edge because that is where you can do real work. Like you want to be scared a little bit. Like that's how you know you're alive when you're scared. scared of something, you're growing. You're facing your fears in some ways. Yeah. Sometimes it's hard to be brave.

And sometimes if you've suffered in a lot of fight or flight or you have a lot of fear or anxiety, it's really hard to do that. But that's how you get over it. And that's how you get past it. And that's how you keep climbing. And maybe your pain and fear is to make you stronger. And maybe it's also so you can help somebody else. So get some of those answers and figure it out, what is it you're feeling?

And why are you feeling that and get to the bottom of it? I'll tell you something. If we don't get to the bottom of what it is that is taking away our life, mind, body, and spirit, then we're going to suffer with disease manifested in our body. And it's going to happen later in life. And again, back to polypharmacy, you're going to go to the doctor. You say, ache and I pain or my stomach hurts or whatever it is I'm feeling. And the doctor will give you a pill and that will be okay.

And then that pill is going to have a side effect from that pill. and then you're going to need that pill to cover up that pill. And again, Polypharmacy, it's happened. I've watched hundreds of people tell me this story that they have lost their lives from polypharmacy. Luckily, most of the time they've come back with using cannabis. And if you can break down your body in the way that it needs to break down with all of the stuff that's going on and then put the cannabis back in, you'll be able to

bring your body back into homeostasis. Yeah, it's interesting you say that. I'm curious and I think that you have a unique perspective on this. We've spoken a little bit about how maybe we both use cannabis personally, but what is it like to sort of sit with somebody? Like maybe you and I sit down together and I kind of green out a little bit and I'm like, Kelly, I got to tell you this thing. Like, Jesus, my dad used to punch me in the face all the time and did these horrible

things to my sister. Like what is it like? He didn't really do that. But like, I'm just saying like in a situation. Yeah. How is that, how do you use cannabis in that setting? So are you asking what I would say if someone sat down with me like that or what I would do if I was with somebody that said that? Let's do both of them.

Okay. So if somebody came to me and they talked about childhood trauma, let's use childhood trauma. So cannabis is going to allow you to face that. And sometimes we want to push memories away. And sometimes we want to push that pain away. And a lot of times that's what we need to do. Our body sort of, it's dissociation. We shut out different memories.

We shut out different painful things that we can't see anymore. And sometimes cannabis will force us to see those things. Be ready for that. Be ready to deal with it, to put it away. And then the next step would be to forgive. So it's not all going to happen right away. So let's just say, for example, we'll use your example. Someone says, I want to deal with a childhood trauma by greening out.

I need to, I want to take something to green out. So we find out what that level is. If you're not an experienced cannabis user, I would just say 50 milligrams to 100 milligrams. That's a lot. That's like a big, big, big, big, big, big dose for somebody that isn't using it a lot. So let's just say if they were, you know, an occasional user puff on this, puff on that, 50 milligram edible. I would say have somebody with you that you love and that loves you and that you feel safe with

and make sure you have something warm and just be safe. Sometimes you won't want anybody right there with you. Make sure your space is set really safely. I always recommend candles, blankets, music, whatever is going to make you feel that way. Even if it's a stuffed animal from your childhood or a picture of somebody that you love, just set your space up really nicely and make sure. there. Make sure somebody's there that you trust. It doesn't have to be in the room, but it should be, you know, somewhere close by in case it gets really bad and you say to yourself, I need to call

911. I do need to call 911. You absolutely don't need to call 911. Lots of 911 operators have actually been coached to say, okay, here's what you need to do instead because they were getting so many calls from people that were thinking that they were literally going to die. I will also pause and say, if you actually do feel that way and you start to get out of control, make that call, like make that judgment call and have your buddy, which your talk buddy, have that conversation with you ahead of time as well. So you're going to go deep and you're going to have that therapeutic moment with yourself. It lasts a long time. If it gets too intense, you can end it by having a shower, having be supported through that or a bath and just really

washing that water over you because that's what you're doing. You're washing it all out. You're washing that trauma out. You're washing that pain out. And then you're going to, again, watch something funny. Listen to your favorite music. Pink Floyd is always good when you're super high, right? Sure. And have some munchies there. Have some comfort foods. Have some whatever it is that's your favorite comfort food because you're going to feel really tired and really raw. You've just let out all of that stuff, all that emotion that you've probably kept into your body for many, many years. And your body's going to feel really tired and your soul is going to feel really tired. So give yourself time to rest and give yourself space to rest. And you're going to

need some CBD gommies after that. Some CBD and some CBN, I would recommend, because that's going to help you feel a little bit sleepy. They're non-intoxicating, so they won't give you that psychosis again. That's making you feel like you're greening out. They could make you feel a little bit woozy and a little bit sleepy, and that's okay, because you want to sleep now, because you're going to have a wonderful sleep. And just take the next day off, whatever you need to do, because you're going to sleep for a very long time. It could be up to 12 hours, sometimes even 15. So have some water by and a nice fan and some nice warmth and get in there and do that trauma work. Yeah, it's fascinating to me. It's interesting, too, to think about the different stages that we have in our relationship to cannabis. One of my

favorite movies is like this old Dave Chappelle movie. And it's, I forgot the name of it, but in the movie, there's a scene where like a dad is trying to connect with his son. And, like, like, It's like this scene where the dad's like, how do I connect with them? And the dad's smoking a joint. And then they cut to the next room over and the kid's like, how do I tell my dad about this? And he's smoking a joint. Like on some level, shouldn't there be like a right of passage where parents talk to their kids about their cannabis use? And might that be therapeutic?

So there should be. And gratefully now we have more openness with that conversation. So as I shared, I wrote a course how to talk to your kids about cannabis with Andrea Mahargh. And I also wrote a book called The Smelliest Flower in the Garden. And it's a children's book with a centralized character named Isaac. He's a little boy. And he has epilepsy and he needs cannabis. And cannabis is growing in his garden.

And there's some mean girl flowers that don't understand why the smelly, ugly, orange-haired flowers growing in the same garden as them. But then when they find out that their beloved boy, Isaac, needs it as his medicine, they end up loving her. And it's sort of that children's connection, right? And I was finding when I was starting to teach how to talk to your kids about cannabis five years ago, there wasn't any literature on that because that's such a, boy, you can't do that. No, you can't talk the kids about it.

No, not the children. Well, yeah, actually, the children need it because I'll tell you, my 15-year-old knows all about it. He can tell you anything that's needed for the endocannoid system, where it's going, what it's happening with it. And I would much rather him know that than what's going on with vodka or beer or tobacco or vape, flavored vape that these kids are smoking. I would much rather him choose a plant than alcohol and tobacco any day. I don't know what parent wouldn't. Okay, so here's your option.

A 2.5 milligram edible gummy that's going to give them some sort of feeling of intoxication or a case of beer. What are you going to choose for that? I know it's so scary. We can't do that, right? but that's going to give them the, they're going to go do it anyway. If they're going to go to a party and they're feeling that, they're going to go and try an experiment intoxication,

sit down with them and give them this option. Sit down with them and explain to them that interacting alcohol and cannabis is going to make you super sick because alcohols opening up your blood vessels. Sit down and talk to them. Are you consuming cannabis? I can see your eyes are red. Are you cleaning that bong? No, no, we have to hide it from mom and dad.

Well, you know what? If you don't clean that bong, you know, sick you're going to get? let's have that conversation. Let's have that because you're going to do it. So what are you going to hide it from them? It's the same way they're going to go have sex too. You're going to tell them not to do that, right? What are we?

The 1800s? No, have that conversation, please. Yeah. In some ways, I think it speaks to our insecurities and the mistakes that we've made in our life. But not talking about them is not going to solve it, right? The only way we get better is by, hey, here's this mistake that happened. Here's why it happened. And if you find yourself in a similar situation, here's some tools you can use, right?

Yeah, you can. Well, I mean, you have to be able to have that conversation and be open. So what if parents are not consumers themselves? And what if they find that their children are consuming cannabis and they don't know how to relate to it? They have to be able to be open with that because the children are going to keep hiding it. Or what if you get to a point where your child has something like ADHD or anxiety? What are you going to give them pills from the doctor for that to change the synapsis firing in the brain and make them a zombie? You have an option to give them cannabis as medicine.

What if your child has epilepsy? And they use cannabis medicine to control their seizures. And they go to a classroom and there are teachers in the school, let's just say. And they're talking about cannabis and it's so bad. It's the devil's lettuce. And now there's a child in that classroom that feels like they're, oh, my God, they do drugs. They're so bad. That's, oh, my God, I can't do that medicine.

or their mom has cancer. Their mom has breast cancer and she uses cannabis to help with the ailment. And now, oh, mom is so bad for that, right? So this is the kind of stuff that that's happening. This sort of like cannabis is evil. Let's not tell the children about it. Let's not give them that option. And they absolutely need to be able to use it if that's their medicine, if that's

their therapy. And teenagers need to get off these pills that are taking their life away even before it starts and be able to use cannabis for therapies and front medicines. But we can't say that, George. We can't say that. Don't say that. No, no, we can't let the kids have it. Yeah, the stigma around some of the things that are happening in our world is it's paralyzing.

You know, like how does? Like, let's say that we probably all know people who have never really built a relationship with cannabis or psychedelics and then their kid experiments for the first time. I can understand how someone who doesn't have a relationship with that would be fearful of it. They've been conditioned their whole life to be afraid of. Like, why wouldn't they be afraid of it? What are some good things people can do to maybe just stop for them? And I've got these rolling papers.

Kids got all the stuff over here. He's a drug addict. What can someone do in that moment to maybe stop being so judgmental? Start asking questions. Like, is there something? What can people do? Understand the history of prohibition in the world. Understand that cannabis has been found to be used eight.

thousand years ago in some places all over the world. It's been used for religious sacrament. It's been used for food. It's been used for industry. It's been used for textiles. It's been used for everything you can imagine for thousands of years. And it was only just taken from us the last hundred years, literally because of greed and racism and control and pretty much the white man controlling our planet and not wanting anyone else to have the forefront or equality. So that's basically what prohibition is and why our plant was taken from us. Had it not been taken from us, can you imagine what we would have today, what kind of benefits we would have medicinally, educationally, how healthy that humans would be. We wouldn't have endocannabinoid deficiencies. People would have choices and they would have options. So if you look at it from that perspective, if you look at it as this plant really just was taken away because of lies, literally, lie after lie, and just recognize that it's a plant

that was grown here to help us. It wouldn't be here. I mean, if you smoked broccoli, I'm sure you've smoked mint, I mean, not you, but people, and somebody smoked everything, right? Right. Why is it that cannabis is the only thing that we're smoking that we're getting something from? Because it's here for that reason. It is our medicine. It is grown for us to be able to use. we just have to find whatever recipe it is that our bodies need that lock in key, right? So if we think of our endocannabinoid system, all these different locks or all these different locks, and then you have all of these different cannabinoids and terpians that are the keys that are, you know, fitting into that.

And you recognize that mom and dad, grandma, caregiver, auntie, whoever it is that's looking after these children. And you see, hi, we actually need it. It was taken from us for greed and racism. and we need it back to everybody else on the planet, then maybe you'll just see that it isn't so much a demon or a devil and it's not so much hurting us. It opens up our mind. It opens up our bodies.

And it puts us into the balance that we absolutely need to be in. And your children, too. Yeah. The idea of balance is something that you don't really, I don't know if we take that into consideration enough. And if you look at the diet that we have, the world that we live in, the stress that we're subjected to,

What role does balance play with? What world does cannabis play in balance, do you think? Well, I mean, I'm afraid to tell you, my friend, but if we put things into your body that are toxins and making them unwell, then cannabis, you can put all the cannabis you want into your body and help that, but you're still not going to find the balance. And what I mean by that is that the meat and the dairy and the pesticides and the processed foods and the chemicals and all of those.

the things that are being put into food now instead of the natural food that we're supposed to be consuming and we're supposed to be eating, then you're taking in toxins that are causing pus and disease and things to just break down in your body. So consider that first. Consider that first. It's removing the toxins. And maybe they are toxins aren't just the meat and the cheese and the milk or whatever it is that you're eating the white sugars and the white salt. Maybe it isn't just that. Maybe it's the alcohol that you're considering. Maybe it's the tobacco that you're consuming. Maybe it's the pills you're consuming. And maybe it is the environment that you're consuming because the environment that you're in has all the effects on your body as well.

So if you're in a bad job or live in a bad home or in a bad marriage or have some stresses that are targeting your body, you can put all the cannabis and the plants into your body you want, but you're still going to not have that balance and that homeostasis. So in order to have the homeostasis balance that you need, you want to have the cannabis in the right recipe. Let's just say that you need for your endocannamined system, for your regulatory system. You need that. You need to have no toxins in your body. You need to regulate your stress and your hormones. And you need to have that connection to earth and spirit. And what I mean by spirit, it doesn't even mean that you have to have a religion or you have to pray or anything like that. But what that means is that you have to want to live. You have to

want to be alive and see things and, you know, be so excited to wake up every single day. So if you can find that, you find the spirit and you find the proper things that your body needs and you find the wholeness in your mind and in your heart, that's when you're going to find your balance, George. I love it. It's the idea of finding spirit, like finding something to be alive for. finding something to be passionate about. That's such a huge part of our lives. And I feel, maybe I can only speak to my life, but there were long periods of my life where that part of me died, you know,

and it's so sad because when that's true to your relationships. And I see it in a lot of people. What are some things we can do? I know that cannabis or psychedelics is a great way to blow on that ember and begin to have that flame well up inside of you again. What are some other ways we can call that spirit into us? Yeah, I love that you also mention psychedelics because there are a lot of therapeutic benefits from mushrooms, fungi, from LSD, and from MDMA.

So a lot of research is being done right now about that. I don't know as much about it as I do about cannabis, but I will say that I use those therapies as well for trauma therapy and balance and microdosing certainly helped save my life many, many times. But to answer your question, and love, love, George. And the reason for that, and very, very much and very truthfully, is the reason why people take their life, suicidal ideology is the absence of love.

When you feel unloved here on this earth, when you feel alone and you feel empty, then you no longer feel like living and you no longer feel like being here. So in order to find that spiritual connection, that well-neutral connection, that well-neutral, that oneness, that balance, you need to find love. And that love comes from yourself first. So, you know, you put your hand over your heart chakra and you just feel that. And you just, you just know who you are. And the only person that's going to love you the way that you need to be loved is you. So you find that love for yourself. And then you find that love for others. And you give that out. And you find that gratitude. Do you wake up in the morning and recognize that you

had a pillow. Did you have a pillow last night? Because I had a pillow and I am so grateful that I actually was on a very soft pillow last night. There are so many people in the world that don't have a pillow and there are so many people that don't have that love and that can't wake up every day and put their two feet on the ground. My goodness, I can walk today. I could go ride my bike today. Love. Gratitude will come when you have that love. And when you start appreciating who it is that you can love and loving others, oh my goodness, you're going to get that love back. So, George, find your cannabis balance, find your balance in removing the toxins in your environment and your body, and find that love whatever way you can. I love that. I love that.

You know, I think it speaks to the idea of like the scarcity mindset. Like for so long, we're so worried about all the things that we don't have. But just in hearing you talk a moment ago, like I never thought about it. Like, yeah, I laid on a pillow last night. Like, you're right. The pillow is amazing. I'm so thankful that I had that. And I had a blanket to stay warm. Are you kidding me and a roof over my head. I got food in my fridge. There you go, George. Like, you know, it's and on some level, when you begin thinking like that, you realize what matters. Yes. Like, who cares if you lose your job? I mean, it matters, but is your family still here? It was not supposed to be there anyway. If you lose it, it was not supposed to be there anyway.

That is your lesson, right? Find it what it is that supposed to be. Maybe that was supposed to be taken from you because it was hurting from you. It was taking from your life. You don't need that. don't deserve that. There is a job out there for you. And you're going to love that job and you're going to be so happy to go to work every day. That's what you need to say. Be grateful that you have anything that you have because there are people out there that wish. If you're watching this right now, that means you have some form of intranet. That means that you have some form of technology. I'll tell you that there are people in war-torn countries right now this minute that would give anything for the safety of sitting and watching a podcast about cannabis. I can say that there

are people that would wish that they were warm right now. Are you warm right now? And if you're not fine, me, because I want to help you. There's too many people that are cold right now. All we're thinking about is ourselves and what we don't have. My goodness, if you were able to walk today, I'll share something with you. My mom, her name is Linda. She's on the last days of her life. I shout so much about polypharmacy because it's taken her life from her. I've watched it. And she cannot walk very well. She cannot breathe very well.

She cannot do the things that she used to do. She was a dancer. And I share this with you because every day that I am able to run up my stairs, every day that I'm able to hike and ride my bike and play with my child and do everything that I can and move my body, I am so grateful for that. And I don't put anything into my body that's going to take away from it anymore, because I've watched what happens to humans that do that. So I do not take this body for gratitude.

I do not take anything for gratefulness at all anymore because I'm just so lucky for what I have. And I hope you find that too. Yeah. I think that life tests us in so many levels and you don't really realize what you have until it's taken away from you. By then, it's too late.

It's too late. It's too late. I'll share of your story with you, though, because sometimes it is, too late. His name is Jack Cungle. He's the prophet of our cannabis spirituality movement. There was a documentary created about Jack Cungle called Jack's Garage. Go look it up right now after this podcast. Don't turn up this podcast. Go look it up after this podcast immediately because you're going to want to hear about Jack. Jack was told he was going to die. 12 years ago, 13 years ago,

he was sent home to die. He was given 90 days to live. He was taking 22 types of medication for diabetes, he had got cancer, he couldn't move his shoulders, he couldn't walk, basically, without crutches. Jack is now in his early 70s. He is singing and dancing in a band. People come from all over the world, including the Paul McCartney agency, to speak to and find Jack, because he learned to heal himself with cannabis. But he didn't just do it with cannabis. He's doing it with what I'm saying to you about removing the toxins and the bad environment and all of those things. So when you're given that death sentence and you're given that, it can never change. I'll never get back from it.

That's just one remarkable story. And anytime anyone comes to me and says, Kelly, I need help. I'm sick. Or I have a parent that's sick or I've just had a diagnosis or know somebody is. I say immediately go and watch Jack's Garage. Because when you lose hope, you will not lose hope after this documentary. And it was directed and produced by Kim Soltarky as well. It's interesting that you bring up the idea of hope.

Like so much of our life is based on belief and understanding and I guess love too. It's almost a disease when people lose hope, right? Do you think so? Well, it does wreak havoc on your body when you do have mental pain and fatigue. And when you do lose hope, you lose the will to live. you lose the will to keep going. And that just shuts your body down. Think about a story.

I'm sure everyone has heard one of people that have been married for 50 years and the woman dies and then the man dies the next day. I mean, when you have that will to live, you keep going. And sometimes we just, you know, stay for our partner or stay whatever it is. And then you lose that. And so you have to go and be with your partner or whatever it is. you lose that hope, but I mean, there's no longer reason to keep going. And so then you don't keep going. If you want to keep going, imagine that partner, you know, mom died.

Dad's still here and he has 25 grandchildren and he wants to keep going for them. He's going to keep going for those 25 grandchildren. He won't lose hope. But if you lose hope, then, you know, why are you going to keep going? Yeah, I guess when the game is no longer worth the candle, then the light kind of goes out. Yeah. But the beauty is we can decide. Like we get to decide what's meaningful in our lives.

And I think that this speaks to the relationship with cannabis or psychedelics is that sometimes when you lose hope, what you need to do is redefine what's important to you. And the beauty is like there's meaning all around us and we get to decide what that meaning is in our life. I'm hopeful that people can just take a moment if you find yourself in a situation where hope is lost. Just take a moment. and focus on your breath and understand it. There's a lot to live for. And you can always start again. You can always start again.

Tomorrow is a new day. The sun always, unless you're in the Yukon or Iceland where it doesn't rise. But the sun almost always rises. You know what I mean. It always starts. The new day always starts. Yeah. And so you can always start again.

If that means that you need to pick up and move to Hawaii and hang it with George and his family. or move to Canada up here with me, or whatever it is you need to do, do that. Find a way. There's, you know, find a globe and, you know, put your finger on it and where's my next adventure? There's eight billion people in this world. There's billions of them that need help. If that's just what your hope could be, find a way to help.

There are people that are struggling. They are living on the sidewalk. They do not have homes anymore. People are sick. They are alone. They are afraid. give hope to them by helping them. It's just circle.

You'll find hope back in yourself. Yeah, I love that. I think it speaks to the idea of relationships and how much we can really do. On some level, I see where we're at today. And it seems that a large part of our society is in transition. I think we're beginning to understand what is important in life. For so long, so many of us have thought,

okay, I'm going to get up, go to work, and I've got to get myself this place, and then I've got to take care of my kid. Like, we get so caught up in the day-to-day things about who we are, our status, what we want out of life, that we forget what's really meaningful. And when you forget what's meaningful, life kind of has a way of kicking you in the butt sometimes. Do you think, do you feel as if we're in a transit? Maybe it's my age, maybe because I'm almost 50. I'm starting to think about these different parts of life or something like that.

But do you see where we are right now in today's world as in a transitional period? Yeah. Zite, God. is Gregory Fullerton is working in this cannabis space and you might know him, he might connect and he's connected to a lot of us out here. And I was on a call with him recently. He's in Greece. And he said zeitgeist.

And he explained that. That's the feeling of the times, the energy of the times. And that zeitgeist feeling right now is certainly that one of transition. And if you're a light worker, you're feeling activated. A lot of people that are on this mission, this cannabis mission, the spirituality mission, the mission to change, the mission to connect, they're feeling that activation. And I don't know if you're familiar with The Matrix, but I say it like this. It's that activation to leave the Matrix. We have been stuck in this way of thinking for thousands of years.

We're stuck with the Gregorian calendar. We're stuck with the Pisces, the misogynistic white man run life. taking ownership, Anglo-Saxon, deciding of colonization and capitalism. And what that's done is that's lost our connection with the planet and Mother Earth and humanity. And now our planet is burning. Like your poor island was on fire this summer, George. Our country up here in Canada is on fire.

And never was on fire before. The polar bears are so super skinny. Like, what's going on, you guys? And know what's going on. And that means that our mother earth. is burning and we're allowing that to happen. Humans are allowing that to happen. And it's, it's toxic and it makes us vulnerable and it makes us unstable. And so when that happens, we look for war. So we've been punished in the last little while in ways you've got to stay

inside. You've got to wear masks. You've got to take shots. You've got to do what we're doing in our controlled, colonizing way. And what's happened is humans are saying, no, we're not doing that anymore. We want something different. And along the way, all these little lights are going on of activated light workers that are shining lights on the shadows of the world. And at that same time, the revolt is happening and radicals are happening. And that's making the energy, the zeitgeist, one of anger and war and passion and is a transition. It happens every 20 years that there's some kind of transition of this. And it happens every sort of century on the 120th time.

It's something that we're going to see for a good period of time right now, but what needs to happen is the Aquarius balance. So we're transitioning from Pisces to Aquarius, and that's Mama. That's the female lead, the yin, the nature driven. I will tell you something that our mother earth will not stand for this much longer. The great white bear standing, she is an indigenous elder that I follow. She told me, she shared with me, our mother earth will take back the earth when she needs to. That means when she is done with humans wreaking havoc on her, she will just do what needs to happen to bring back that balance. So if we don't stop this, you guys, if humans don't stop this, then we're going to end up just losing whatever it is we have and all this foot in it will start again like it has many times in the thousands of years that has happened with humans being on our planet.

So let's find that connection to spirit. Let's find that nature connection. and let's get back the planet during this transition, and let's let the woman, the yin dominance, rule because we've got to get over what has happened with this masculine colonization. People can't be owned anymore, you guys. We can't be owned in the Matrix and being told the stake is so good.

You've got to get out of that. We're not cogs in a wheel. We don't need to follow the queen bee. We need to break free right now. I'm curious. How do you, do you see human kind as like, one and the earth together in a symbiotic relationship as like one superorganism? That's a very good question.

Yes. Yes. Yes. I see that. I see that there's too much shadow revolting against that. And that's causing a misshift. That's what's causing the imbalance to happen in the world. So we're supposed to be one.

We're supposed to be peace. We're supposed to be working together. We're not supposed to be. fighting each other. We're not supposed to be dividing by religion. We're not supposed to be divided by hate. We're supposed to be working together as love. We are one. We are all energy. We're supposed to be, but it's not working out that way so much anymore, George. Yeah. Do you think that we'll come to a point? Like, I like the way in which you brought up the idea that the earth will reclaim everything. You know, there's this, there's this

term or this. I don't think term is the right word, but there is this thing that I keep seeing, and it's this idea of rewilding. You know, the same way, there's this idea of nature reclaiming some of the landscapes that have been filled by concrete,

or it's this idea to kind of pull down some of the dams in some ways. It's the rewilding. It's earth reclaiming back the world. I see that happening in people, too. Like I sense this form of rewilding in the individual. Do you sense that as well? Yeah.

We don't want to be told we have to be in a box anymore. It's not, there's no more boxes. I mean, some people like their boxes. Like some people like the steak in the matrix. And that's okay. And if that's where you want to stay, then that's okay. That's safe for you. But some of us need to break free of that.

Most of us need to understand that you have another choice. You do not need to take the pills. You do not need to listen. to what's been told of you. This is Wednesday. Yes, we are told this is Wednesday because people that came before us told us this was Wednesday and this is what you have to do. You wake up at the morning. You go to work. You marry someone. You have some children. You, you know, live a little bit, vacation in Cuba once a year and then you die. Like, why are we being told that this is the way that we're supposed to be? Do you know where I've learned this from? My 15 year old. My 15 year old taught me

this as strange as this is. It's almost like he woke up conscious and he, He said to me, why do we need to keep listening to the way that the school tells us what we're supposed to learn? Why is this math class important? But I'm not learning how to grow vegetables. And I'm not learning financial responsibility for my future. And he's being told that he has to read Lord of the Flies like every grade 10 student out there because that's the box that he's in. So he says, why are we not revolting against this? Why are we being told that we have to stay in this box and be complacent and compliant on what those that came before us told us. And my response to him was, wow, okay, do you want to go to school anymore, buddy?

But he's an honorable kid. Like, you know, he gets the marks that come easy to him, and he's thought-provoking. And he sits there and he thinks about it. And he tells me, this is what it is. This is how we've had to live on our earth. This is what we've been told to learn. They took cannabis away from us. And now we're being told that you have to learn algebra in grade 9 and 10.

okay, we need to have that conversation. Let's open that up and see where we can go from here. Because if we don't, those polar bears are getting skinnier. And cannabis is not being allowed to use for ADHD medication. It's the pills. And people are dying. And it's the largest human genocide that our planet has ever seen cannabis prohibition. So if we don't fix that, George, and we don't fix all of these other broken things,

then, yeah, I think Mother Earth is coming back to reclaim what she's been, what's been taken from her. Yeah, and I think she, one of the ways in which she claims back the earth is through the minds of the young and the rebellion that sins to happen. Like, you know, first off, I'm proud of your son for having those kind of questions. That is indeed the mindset a young man should have. He should be challenging authority. Like, who are these people to tell me that?

Why? He should be, like, the idea of why is such a powerful question and the idea of rebellion is even a more powerful question. Like, why don't we rebel? And it's because we've been comfortable. And now we're no longer comfortable. And for good reason, the people we love are dying for no reason except for greed and selfishness on some level.

And we're probably part of that on some level. So it's such an impressive time to be alive. And it's such a wonderful time to be alive. And it needs to be held with responsibility and conviction. It's exciting. What a beautiful time to be alive. Yeah. We've got a beautiful future ahead of us if we can just write all the wrongs. And it's happening.

Cancel culture is really prevalent right now. And people are in the streets and social media is helping with that. And so more voices are being heard and more rights are being wrong. We need to really have conversations of it. So social equity all of the time. And we need to be figuring out where we're going here as humans. And what is our purpose? There's eight billion of us here. Where are we going people? Let's figure that out. Let's have those hard conversations. Stop being afraid.

And you know what? If the ones that want to be afraid, stay afraid. That's okay. But there are people that need to come forward and they need to just sort of balance that out. And you know what? If the people that are still sleeping, we just feed it to them nicely. We just, you know, take away their white sugar, let's just say. Or maybe we banish nicotine from the planet.

Or maybe everybody just has to recycle and we just start, you know, taking things away bit by bit. And so everybody will just learn that we can no longer go on like this. You no longer have to work 50 or 60 hours a week just to make the ends meet. Why is that happening? Why are people suffering like that? Why are people working themselves to the bone in factories just so that they can put food on the table for their children? No, no. Something has to be done.

Yeah, I think so too. No. I'm hopeful that there's a, and I think it's happening. I think you can see it around. And the idea that we change the way we live by changing who we are and making subtle changes in our lives can have radical changes throughout the globe. It's a wonderful. It's wonderful. And I think a lot of that stems from your relationship with either cannabis or your breathwork or whatever way in which you choose to find a heightened state of awareness and become cognitive of all these things happening around us.

Relationships there, right? I really love this conversation, Kelly. And I'm so thankful to get to spend some time with you and get to learn some of the ways in which you think and some of your ideas. Before I let you go, though, where can people find you? What do you have coming up and what are you excited about? Oh, my goodness. Well, we do a lot of really great shows on KGL TV. So that's our cannabis media brand.

You can find me, Reverend Kelly Addison, anywhere on social media, LinkedIn, all of those places. And we're called the KGL network. That's our umbrella. But we're mostly known as Kelly's Green Lounge. That was the Cannabis Lounge that I over there. up here in Canada about four years ago, just one year after cannabis became legal in our country. So that's the brand that people know us as. They have T-shirts and mugs and stuff that say Kelly's Greenland.

But our network is the KGL network, and I'm Reverend Kelly Addison. Well, I'm so thankful for your time. To hang on briefly, I would like to speak to you for a few moments afterwards. But ladies and gentlemen, go down to the show notes, check out KGL. Reach out to the Reverend Kelly Addison. And I hope all of you have a beautiful day. I hope all of you get to have a little bit of time of reflection and are able to do some things in your life that are right for you

and make sure that you tell the ones you love that you love them and that's all we got for today, ladies and gentlemen. Aloha.