TrueLife - Christopher Lee Maher - Free for Life

Episode Date: May 5, 2022

One on One Video Call W/George https://tidycal.com/georgepmonty/60-minute-meetingSupport the show:https://www.paypal.me/Truelifepodcast?locale.x=en_US🚨🚨Curious about the future of psych...edelics? Imagine if Alan Watts started a secret society with Ram Dass and Hunter S. Thompson… now open the door. Use Promocode TRUELIFE for Get 25% off monthly or 30% off the annual plan For the first yearhttps://www.district216.com/Christopher Maher is a former Navy SEAL who endured physical trauma during and after his military career. He has taught himself how to free his body from pain by distinguishing between the emotional, physical, mental, and spiritual aspects of being. Christopher studied Traditional Chinese Medical Practices at the Pacific College of Oriental Medicine and at Yo San University, then continued his studies at The Universal Healing Tao System. He is a student of Grand Master Mantak Chia at the Universal Tao Master School in Chiang Mai, Thailand, and is currently pursuing his Master's and Doctorate degrees in Traditional Chinese Medicine.https://truebodyintelligence.com/http://geni.us/freeforlifebookhttps://instagram.com/truebodyintelligence?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= One on One Video call W/George https://tidycal.com/georgepmonty/60-minute-meetingSupport the show:https://www.paypal.me/Truelifepodcast?locale.x=en_USCheck out our YouTube:https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPzfOaFtA1hF8UhnuvOQnTgKcIYPI9Ni9&si=Jgg9ATGwzhzdmjkg

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Darkness struck, a gut-punched theft, Sun ripped away, her health bereft. I roar at the void. This ain't just fate, a cosmic scam I spit my hate. The games rigged tight, shadows deal, blood on their hands, I'll never kneel. Yet in the rage, a crack ignites, occulted sparks cut through the nights. The scars my key, hermetic and stark. To see, to rise, I hunt in the dark, fumbling, fear. Hears through ruins maze, lights my war cry, born from the blaze.
Starting point is 00:00:40 The poem is Angels with Rifles. The track, I Am Sorrow, I Am Lust by Kodak Serafini. Check out the entire song at the end of the cast. Hi. Oh, you're living large. I am. Yeah, you definitely are living large. Yeah, it's beautiful out here.
Starting point is 00:01:08 I'm very fortunate. I have some similar struggle. as most of us do. And I just picked up and left everything. Came out here with two black bags and like $1,000. It's amazing what you can learn about yourself if you're willing to take a few chances. Yeah. No risk. Ladies and gentlemen, we are here with, should I call you Chris? Christopher, do you have a Christopher? Christopher. Ladies and gentlemen, I am here with Christopher Lee Mayer. He has written a book called Free Forever. He's got an amazing story. He's overcome adversity.
Starting point is 00:01:43 He is a down-to-earth guy. I'm going to interrupt you. Please. The book is called Free for Life. Free for Life. I'm sorry. I think my next book will be free forever. Free forever.
Starting point is 00:01:55 Nice. Yes. I was thinking what the title of my next book was going to be. And you gave it to me. Thank you. It is meant to be. It's meant to be. Free for life.
Starting point is 00:02:10 So to my audience. Christopher, could you please just maybe give yourself an introduction and let them know a little bit about you? Yeah, I live in California. 53 years old, going to be 54. I'm just kidding. The work that I do is really important. And I think the message that I want everyone to tune into is that transformation happens in the body. the body. Okay. And most people think that it happens in the mind. And a lot of those self-help books
Starting point is 00:02:49 and courses and they're only going to reach so deep into you. They're really going to hit your stuff at the surface. If you're someone who wants to go deep and really understand what freedom feels like from the inside out, you got to read the book. You got to find me. You got to find me, we got to get together, take a risk, send me an email, put yourself out there. I promise you, you will be so happy with what you get from everything that's available from what we do. I've been at this for 21 years, and I can tell you that whether you're seven years old or you're 77 years old, the level of tension and stress and distortion in your body.
Starting point is 00:03:41 is exactly the same, meaning that babies, when they come out, they're already pre-programmed with the majority of the stress that they're experiencing right now as an adult. Now imagine that. Yeah, I'm trying to. Yeah. I'm trying to imagine that. So I guess I have a question there. And my question is, how is that genetically, is that epigenetics?
Starting point is 00:04:11 How can a child be born into a world with the same amount of stress that they're going to have as an adult? In your story, you talk about some really adverse things that happened to you. Don't you think that those maybe added to the stress later in life or were those the same as when you were seven? Yeah, think about it like this. Okay. You are made up of electromagnetic energy. So essentially every human is an electrolyze magnet. to attract exactly what you are and to attract exactly what you aren't, right?
Starting point is 00:04:48 Because every magnetic pole has a pull and a push on the opposite ends, right? Right. So whatever you were born from, you are designed to experience in this lifetime. Now, what I've done over the last 21 years, I've created a successful, pattern interrupt. So let's say you came to the planet as banana bread, right? You were baked banana bread and you wake up at 33 and you're like, I don't like this vibe. I actually would like to be a carrot cake. Guess what? I can unbake, help you unbake that and use all the energy from the banana bread and help you turn yourself into a carrot cake. And this has never,
Starting point is 00:05:40 ever, ever been afforded to any humans at any point in time in the history of humanity. Only till now is this available. That is a huge claim right there. That's a huge claim. Yeah. Why, how come only now? Because no one was as disjointed or fragmented as fractured as I was and figured out how to put themselves back together. no one finished the job i finished the job because you know the thing that you get from seal training
Starting point is 00:06:18 is i was already a tenacious person but they amplify that and so when i make up my mind to do something i'm going to continue to keep going until i experience what it is i really want to experience and so to be honest with you i think it would take someone who is a navy seal right went through the kind of hardships that I went through as a child to get to a place to go hmm yeah I've run this idea that I made up in my mind to its very end and I'm still not satisfied or happy or at peace so there must be something off in what I learned and then I had to backtrack and go back through all the doors that I walked in to find myself again and then create the person that I wanted to be.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Yeah, that sounds like a strategy for success, but also a very difficult one to go back and try and relive some of the traumas. And I guess like the metaphor used is to go back through those doors and enter them the right way. Can you share a little bit about what that process looks like? Yeah, like for instance, the last two days I've been working with a gentleman from, from Greece. Amazing. And he's an MD. Okay. And one of his struggles is that his father never communicated with him and his grandfather never communicated with him. And then when we got into a specific part of his body, the pain level was like 500 out of 10, right? Like so much pain. And then
Starting point is 00:08:11 And finally, once we took that out, guess what happened? He dropped into the ability to authentically self-express exactly what he was feeling rather than having a good face on the outside while suffering on the inside and feeling disconnected. And so what that looked like is he was pushing into me and I was pushing into him and he was pushing as much force as he could possibly generate. And I was slowly beating that force for two hours straight again and again and again and again until that tissue in his body finally opened up. And when that opened up, he was like a four-year-old baby, right? On the ground, wailing as if somebody took his favorite toy.
Starting point is 00:09:05 I mean, he was wailing. And then that wailing then led up into screaming with intense anger because he never got to let that out when he was younger. Because in his environment, his grandfather nor his father provided him with a model of how to communicate and self-express with your son or your grandson. So that got baked into him.
Starting point is 00:09:38 And then underneath, he was building all of this rage inside. And he tried to do everything that he could externally to get recognition that he had value from his father and his grandfather. And he wasn't getting any of it. And then finally, he let all that go. Okay? He let all of that go. It changed his posture.
Starting point is 00:10:03 His left shoulder used to be about four and a half inches higher than is right. Imagine it. And now his shoulders are even. His chest is forward and up. He's able to communicate clearly what he wants, what he needs. And while we're going through that two-hour process yesterday and today, you could see as the session went further, he kept taking more control of the session versus waiting for my instruction. He was initiating what was correct for him. rather than only sitting back waiting to respond from someone else's instruction. Right? He captured a part of himself that was lost. And imagine he's a 61-year-old man.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Okay. Imagine waiting till you're 61 years old to let go of all that is anger, rage, frustration, agitation, irritation. So you could finally have the experience of being in your, your body and being free to communicate what your needs are in front of other people. Yeah. That's the best gift I can give anyone. That's a great gift. It's like the gift of freedom and liberation and understanding yourself.
Starting point is 00:11:26 What is it? What is it? I don't understand when you say he's pushing into you and you're pushing into him. Is that a conversation that's happening or are you utilizing some? Yeah, I use my throat to push into people too. Like if someone pushes back, I definitely push back. Right. But what I'm talking about, physical force. So imagine he's in a maximal consensure contraction. And I'm beating his force, meaning like, let's say this was his leg. I'm pushing here. Okay. And he's driving with as much force as he can. And when he gets to the end range of motion, I slowly beat his force. Ah. So it's, so it's, it gets, I guess we should tell the audience that stretching.
Starting point is 00:12:12 these different positions that you've learned through there is the one form of practice that you use. I guess I didn't set that up for the audience. Sure. Okay. So for the audience, I use six systems that I teach, okay, to open a person's body, to open up their mind, to open up their emotions, and to open up their energy field. And each one of these systems is very specific, and yet I base all of it of Chinese meridian theory. Okay? So Chinese medicine meridian theory.
Starting point is 00:12:51 So I work with a particular channel of energy. Every channel of energy that moves through your body moves through the belly of a muscle. That muscle is fed with nerve. But before that muscle is fed with nerve, it comes from an organ. that goes into that muscle. And before it goes into that organ, right, it comes from the spinal cord and from the brain. So you think about it like this,
Starting point is 00:13:17 you've got the brain. Then you've got the spinal cord, 31 pairs of spinal nerves that then go into all of your sense organs, and then they leave your sense organs and go into muscles. And then as you go down the spine, they go into your systemic organs.
Starting point is 00:13:31 The systemic organ would be like your lungs, your large intestine, your stomach, your spleen, your pancreas, your heart, your small intestine, your bladder, your kidneys, your gallbladder, your liver, your paracardium, your skin. So now, once it leaves those organs, it then goes into muscles. So whatever I do to my muscles, I directly affect my organs. Whatever do my organs, I directly affect my consciousness. Right? So, so I use six different systems to begin to strip out surface to medium
Starting point is 00:14:09 will surface surface to medium medium medium to deep and deep layers of tension stress distortion and toxicity and as you start to strip this out remember this was the tension that was in his body was in his body before he came out of his mother's womb
Starting point is 00:14:31 so this is 60 plus years that he's been holding this inside. And then we strip that out through one of these systems I call ICS, which is icentric strength, with his isometric, concentric, and eccentric contractions used to remove massive amounts of distortion, tension, and stress. Okay? Now, here's the key. Stress gets to a certain level, and then it manifests and creates tension.
Starting point is 00:15:04 Tension gets to a certain level and it manifests as distortion, meaning the tension is so great, it changes the way your bones are rotated. So when you look at a person's posture, their posture is telling you everything about them. If they hold their shoulders high, if their shoulders are forward, if their chest is really up and pushing towards everyone else, if their glutes are tucked underneath them,
Starting point is 00:15:34 If their pelvis is hyperflexed, right? If they're walking on their toes constantly, if they're driving their heels through the floor when they move, if their right arm is internally rotated and their left shoulders higher than the right, like everything that's going on in terms of their posture is telling you everything about their history. Wow.
Starting point is 00:15:54 And the beautiful thing is the mind will tell itself a thousand lies because it wants to keep you safe or it wants to keep you in a perceived state of safety, okay? The body always tells the truth because it's present-centered. It isn't interested in being dishonest. And the key is, is once you know how to read, once you know how to look, then you can see exactly what's going on. And then once you put them in different positions, their range of motion and their level of discomfort is telling you exactly how much frustration anger, anxiety, fear, self-righteousness, agitation and irritation that they have in that part of their body.
Starting point is 00:16:42 So the key is to reduce that, right, to a minimal level, to neutrality, right? It's not pleasurable, but it's not uncomfortable. So the first goal when I'm working with someone is to get them to neutrality. Because in neutrality, you add nothing, you take nothing away. You only see things for what they are. Yeah, that's, there's a lot in there. And I've never thought about looking at the position or posture of a body to define how people live their life. But I think there's a lot of truth to that.
Starting point is 00:17:23 I think that people do carry their tension and their problems and the problems that are clogged in them in the way they walk, in the way they talk. And I do, I would have to, I'm interested to learn more about it. I think it's fascinating. I mean, it's really fascinating. What's fascinating for me is that you can come to a planet like Earth. And in the future, everyone will be able to rewire themselves exactly the way that they want to be. Like right now, you know, women can go get Botox injections and they can fill up their lips or or they can get breast implants.
Starting point is 00:18:05 And, you know, this is all surface, right? Aesthetic stuff. I'm talking about changing the core of the being so that they no longer project fear. They no longer experience anxiety. They no longer project or experience anger. They leave their self-righteous position to be more righteous.
Starting point is 00:18:31 relative to self, family, community, culture, planet. We're talking about a hard rewire from the inside out, I mean from the bones out. And that has never been available until now. Go ahead. When you said when you come to a planet like Earth, do you think we come into this world or we come out of this world? Well, I mean, there's a few ways to think of that. Okay. But let's think of it from the birth canal out, right?
Starting point is 00:19:08 So the human eye only picks up 0.5% of the available light spectrum. So that means right now that's what allows you to perceive that there's distance between me and you. If you could see the other 99.5% of the available light spectrum, all you would see is white light. Right? So there's this perception of separation, yet in reality, no one is separate. So coming and going, in that sense, are happening simultaneously. Now, that's a much bigger conversation. I don't know if the audience wants to get into that, but I'll simplify things.
Starting point is 00:19:51 When you come to a place like Earth, Earth is a third dimensional platform. What that means is there's a certain amount of density on this planet that allows for things time to move slowly. Okay? It allows you to move through space more slowly. When you reduce density, what happens, it means everything moves faster. Emotions move faster. Thoughts move faster. Bodies move faster.
Starting point is 00:20:17 Everything moves faster. Which means you have to have a heightened level of intelligence, a heightened level of. a heightened level of awareness, a heightened level of a higher level of consciousness, so that you could stay present to what's going on around you. The great thing about this planet is the density allows you to slow everything down and continue to keep pounding your head into the wall until you're ready to learn the lesson of surrender and let go. That is so true.
Starting point is 00:20:52 Okay. So there's a lot of conversation there, right? Relative states of density. Earth is about as dense as it gets. All right? And that's why you'll see someone like you'll have a brother who got drunk, did some cocaine, fell asleep at a wheel, right, and ran his car into a tree. And then six weeks later, if they let him out of jail, he drinks more beer, snorts some more cocaine. and then runs his car into a ditch, right? Because of the level of density.
Starting point is 00:21:31 So humans, go ahead. No, I'm sorry. I was, I thought you were soon. Yeah, yeah. So humans learn slowly because the density that have inside of them is at an energetic, physical, emotional, and spiritual level. So when we're doing this kind of work, what we're moving is excessive density.
Starting point is 00:21:52 so that you can manifest at will. You think of something and it happens. Hmm, that's interesting. Wow. I want to sell my car, but I definitely need to get a new paint job. Hmm, do I want to spend all that money in a paint job? I don't know that I need to spend the money on the paint shop.
Starting point is 00:22:13 Hmm, and think that for about 10 days. Oh, you go away, you're on vacation, you get a call from your neighbor going, hey, the cops are here. They want to talk to you. And you're like, what do you mean the cops want to talk to me? They're like, well, somebody came by with a golf club and they hit all the cars. Really? That's so interesting. All right. Would you be able to contact these people to see if they paint my car for me and then contact my insurance company? Sure, no problem. I'll take care of it. But guess what? You come home two weeks later, your car's painted new. Didn't cost you any time. Didn't cost you any energy. And somebody else paid for it.
Starting point is 00:22:56 So like that's a big stretch for a lot of people. I get it. Okay. Let's let's let's let's let's take a different example. Okay. Have two couples, right? And both wives say to the husband, oh, I want to go to Jamaica.
Starting point is 00:23:14 And a husband says, well, look, here's what we're going to do. We're going to reduce our data plan. Okay. we're going to cut back on electricity. We're going to do this, this and that. We're going to pinch and pinch and pinch and pinch and pinch. In 18 months, we should be able to go to Jamaica. Right?
Starting point is 00:23:32 And the other husband and B says, you know what? I'm going to meditate on it tonight. I'm going to pray. I'm going to think about it every day. I'm going to visualize and see us in Jamaica. And then guess what happens? Two months later gets a knock on the door from his neighbor. Hey, guess what, Bob?
Starting point is 00:23:52 Mike broke his leg at work. We can't go to Jamaica. Would you and your wife like to go instead? There you go. So someone knocked on his door and handed him the tickets, right? So there's there's manifestation and then there's hard work, right? Rubber to the road, churning and burning, right? Struggle in strife and then there's ease and grace. Well, when you have more density, easing grace is much more difficult. Struggle and strife is more of a clear mirror for how you will live your life and how you will experience the things that you want to experience. Why struggle and strife? If all you had to do was remove tension and stress and distortion from your body and you could manifest what you wanted at will, why would you choose to do anything else?
Starting point is 00:24:54 Not only does your body feel better, you look better, your posture is better, you have more energy, you sleep better, you digest your food better. Like literally, you see better, you hear better. Everything gets better. That's the key. And this is the missing key in personal development, right? Everyone else sit in class, okay, teach me about manifestation and abundance. I'm going to say this mantra 32 times. And okay, that's great.
Starting point is 00:25:27 And I think that's wonderful, right? But if there's a faster way to get there and you're the one in control, wouldn't you prefer to be the one who's initiating how you're growing your life, how you're growing into the world, what you're choosing to receive? Because when you're in alignment, everything that comes to you is also in alignment. but when you're fragmented and you're fractured and you're out of alignment, the same is also true. That's why when you were little,
Starting point is 00:26:03 your mom said to you, birds of a feather flocked together, be careful who you socialize with. Because they too are made up of electromagnetic energy. And if you're hanging out with people who are struggling, the chances that you're going to attract struggle to you are much greater, If you're hanging with people who are thriving, the chances that you're going to thrive more are greater. And so your body is the temple that your soul lives in.
Starting point is 00:26:38 Why would you do anything to damage your temple? I think I lost you there. You there? What happened? Okay. Kind of glitched for a minute. Right at the temple. Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:59 That's okay. So, you know, when you, when you come to the planet, you're given a vehicle that from the outside looks like a brand new car. But underneath, it's an old rusty bucket. Okay? It's an old rusty bucket. And the key is, is that guess what? You don't have to be born any longer with the most amazing body. Like if you go and you watch the NFL football players or the NBA basketball players and you watch them warm up, you get to the game early and you see them stretch, you would be surprised how those 340-pound men have these amazing ranges of motion.
Starting point is 00:27:50 You think a big guy like that wouldn't have any flexibility. So when you come to a planet like this and you do get an old rusty bucket, guess what? You can turn that rusty bucket into a brand new bucket, and that was never available before in the history of mankind. It's now available. You can rewrite your entire story from the beginning till now. And you can choose exactly what you want to experience. by simply coming into alignment. It couldn't be easier.
Starting point is 00:28:29 Now, you said earlier to me, wasn't it difficult to walk back through those doors? I tell you what, it was very difficult. The difficult thing was the pain, right? Like the physical, the excessive physical sensation when you're pulling this out of your body. But then what happens is as you become more intelligent, you begin searching for,
Starting point is 00:28:53 where these pain spots are and you'll do anything and everything you can to get them out. There's so much. It sounds to me like maybe tension in your body. I think people should know the name of your company is true. What was the name of it again? True body intelligence. True body intelligence. And I think what you just described there is a great idea of true body.
Starting point is 00:29:27 intelligence if the tension in the body is the one thing or one factor that is truly holding people back it's something that we all have in our bodies it's something that's holding all of us back and it just it almost seems so unfair to me that we would be born into this body it's almost like a prison then if we have so much tension yeah it actually it is a prison and you don't know it's a prison until you get it out of your body and then once it out, once it's out, you're like, are you kidding me? I've been holding on to that forever. And then once you're free, you're free. There's no going back to the body that you had. This is my issue with massage and some of these other forms of work. It's like, okay, well, that's good.
Starting point is 00:30:22 And then two weeks later, you're on the table again, right? My shoulder pain. back okay all right come on in and and then two weeks later because these other systems there's not enough force to create enough change so think of it like this minimal force creates minimal change medium force creates medium change big force creates big change but maximal force creates maximal change and then once that energy is flowing through that part of the body and the brain gets the signal The brain now records that as the new you. And it'll do everything it can to keep the new you at the forefront.
Starting point is 00:31:13 So it isn't interested in participating in the old view. It's almost like a pattern then. So if you can change your pattern of electrical magnetism in the body, Is that, it seems like maybe that is the idea. That is the idea. So electromagnetic energy has a natural flow to it. When the flow is driven by fear, it's in a constant state of contraction. When it's driven by love, it's in a constant state of openness, right?
Starting point is 00:31:56 Constant state of openness. So you want to do everything you can to remove as much of that as humanly possible. And that changes the way you think. It changes the way you breathe. It changes the way you move. It changes the way you laugh. It actually even changes your penmanship. Your penmanship will change.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Everything about you shifts the way you chew your food, the food you're attracted to. I never give anyone dietary advice. I don't need to. All I have to do is remove the unhealthy tension out of their stomach channel, and they become attracted to whole food rather than processed garbage. They become attracted to whole food rather than processed garbage. And it's not a struggle. You have no idea how many addicts have shown up at my doorstep.
Starting point is 00:32:51 And I do the same thing for every single one of them. And before you know it, heroin addicts, they longer do heroin. cocaine addicts no longer do cocaine. Ketamine addicts no longer do ketamine. Alcoholics no longer do alcohol. Sugar addicts no longer do sugar. Caffeine addicts no longer do caffeine. Because once the body gets its own sense of self again,
Starting point is 00:33:16 it's no longer using substance on the outside to manage its stress because you've removed a buttload of the lifetime accumulated stress that it has grown since. the moment it was born. And that's our job. If we reduce your lifetime accumulated stress load, guess what happens? Your restore repair and recovery rate, it gets higher. Oops, it gets higher.
Starting point is 00:33:44 So instead in needing nine hours to feel good and be productive and present, you need four and a half or five. Because when you go down, you go down deep into sleep. I mean deep into sleep and you're ready to rumble the next day. Before I got into all this, I was a nap hound. I needed sometimes two, three naps a day. And I was a young man, right? I'm going to be 54.
Starting point is 00:34:17 Like, look, there's no Botox here or facial stuff. I mean, take a look, right? Okay, I'm a 50, I'm going to be a 54 year old man. Ten years from now, I will pretty much look exactly the same. Why? Because energy from the earth is coming up my legs and going into my face and feeding me with energy all the time. New energy. Otherwise, when everything's tight in your calves and your thighs and your hamstring and your butt and your adductors and your
Starting point is 00:34:54 When energy's coming up, by the time it gets to your face, there's nothing left. And then by 54, your face is sagging. Okay? Why should you be sagging? This makes no sense. Like take out the tension, take out the stress. Get everything flowing the way it's supposed to. And you will live a long, healthy, vibrant life.
Starting point is 00:35:22 And look, the truth is, the people who. come to this call and they listen and they tune in and they choose to ignore what I'm saying. All right. What they should do is they should go visit their local old folks home. Okay. Go in there and look around. Tell me, is that what you want? Is that what you want?
Starting point is 00:35:52 I don't think, like those places are really sad. And you know what you? They're really sad. If you just look at the way the West treats their, the system like are you an adult grows up they send their kids off to someone else and they send their old folks off to someone else and then they go work at a job it's like you're completely fragmenting your whole family so how could your life not be fragmented if that is in fact the schedule that you follow you said it exactly they're fragmented and because they're fragmented
Starting point is 00:36:22 they have a fragmented life and they have a fragmented family now if we seal up those cracks right and we build a really good strong foundation, and we bring you into alignment, you put a couple years of time and energy into developing yourself, you're going to seal up those cracks, and you're going to feel amazing constantly. And then people are going to want to be around you.
Starting point is 00:36:53 They're going to want to have you in their presence because you feel so good that they feel even better when you're around. All nervous systems orientate to the highest functioning nervous system in a collective field. What does that mean? That means if you got on an airplane, right, and there was one person on the flight who was purely in neutrality. Okay. I mean authentic neutrality. Everyone would have a good flight because of that one person.
Starting point is 00:37:27 because all nervous systems orientate to the highest functioning nervous system in a collective field. Okay, there's a story in the Bible about Jesus telling people to withhold from throwing a stone. If he wasn't in alignment, they would have thrown him in a ditch and stoned him too. But because he was in alignment and those nervous systems orientated, to his consciousness, they took their rocks and they put them down. And reality changed in that moment. Do you think if someone is in perfect alignment that they can harness the power to not only heal people but also hurt people? Well, if someone was in perfect alignment, they would choose to hurt someone consciously, right?
Starting point is 00:38:26 Um, when someone's in alignment, their ability to heal is greater. Right. Okay. It's much, much, much greater. All you have to do is put your hands on someone. And you can feel the energy just starts burning off. And then you touch that place. Oh, does it hurt there anymore?
Starting point is 00:38:48 Oh, no, it's gone. Okay, bye. It's that easy. It's so amazing to me to, like, I feel a lot of, I got a lot of love going on, Christopher, I like you, man. You seem like a very positive person that wants to help people. And I got a question for you, like, a lot of people that I've met in my life that truly care about people and that truly want to help people, they have gone through the fires of hell. They've gone through stuff where they no longer wanted to live.
Starting point is 00:39:22 And I think it's only once you go through that place, can you bring something back? And you see so many of our brothers and sisters, our family, our moms, our dads, our grandmas. So many people go to that place and they get stuck there or they get burned there. And they come back, but only a part of them comes back. So when I see people like yourself and other people that I really have a lot of respect for, and myself included, like I think that that power to want to help comes from seeing the worst things possible. What? Let me ask you this question. When or I'm just going to ask the second question because I believe the first question is already a given. When did you forgive yourself and allow yourself to want to be better? That's a good question. Once I could know once I identified, I could no longer do it on my own.
Starting point is 00:40:36 Hmm. And that took a long time. Because you know, when you're in C. training, again, this word, you become tenacious. Or they amplify how tenacious you already are. And so you live in a bit of a lone wolf mode, right? I can get it done on my own mode. And I ran that as far as you could take it. And then I had to reach out and ask for help. And that was me admitting that there was something fragmented. or misplaced that needed assistance. Because no, I never grew up in a household
Starting point is 00:41:26 where that were, these conversations weren't even available. Hardly any conversations were available. No one in my family was talking about growing beyond their limitations. They were simply being a reaction to their own life rather than being a co-creator in their own experience because they had no idea that they were something was amiss. Did you blame, did you ever find yourself like blaming yourself before you reached out to people?
Starting point is 00:42:11 And the only reason I ask is in my life and some of the other people I know, nothing ever got better until you decided to take responsibility for your life being a certain way. And for me, it took way too long. And some people I love, you know, and I think it gets back to tension in your body. I think it gets back to negative thinking patterns. And I think it gets back to living a life that is not worth living. When you fail to forgive yourself for the life you're living, like you said, you come into this world with a preset sort of tension. And it's very, especially in the West, it's very easy to blame yourself because you're told your whole life, hey, pick yourself up from the bootstress.
Starting point is 00:42:53 Hey, why are you crying? These guys have it worse than you. And for so many of us, you're born with this idea of pride. Like you want to make your dad, your parents, your friends, you're proud. Maybe you're the small guy. Maybe you're a different color. Maybe you're this. And there's so many reasons that are kind of the same reason that you blame yourself for everything.
Starting point is 00:43:12 But it's not until you can lift that. And that's so hard to do. It takes so much courage to be like, you know what? I'm going to forgive myself. But something happens there. And I just wanted to confirm that. That's the point when you decided to ask. for help? The point I decided to ask for help is when I was in too much pain, physically.
Starting point is 00:43:34 I don't think at that moment I had the awareness that the physical pain that I was experiencing was related to emotional pain and physical trauma that was never dealt with as a child. And then once I understood that, then I was all in, right? Five, six hours a day, stripping it down. And the truth is, is what took me seven years to accomplish, I can get someone through that same process in one year. So pain and loss, I would say, were my teachers. They were my, that was my awakening.
Starting point is 00:44:25 Yeah, those are great teachers. they are not very forgiving. No. Yeah. Sustained brutality. Sustained brutality. And like I said, Earth is a dense place.
Starting point is 00:44:40 Unless you have somebody in your life who's willing to pull you aside and go, hey, your breath stinks. You need to go brush your teeth. You never even know that the way that you're being is outside of how you could be. Right? Because especially in the United States, everyone wants to be liked, right?
Starting point is 00:45:02 Yeah. And so you're doing everything you can to over adapt or to over adjust to make sure that you're getting some level of love or affection or recognition. And so the good, when I look back over my life, the people that I think serve me the most powerfully were the people who told me exactly what I didn't want to hear. or let's say what my fragile part of my ego didn't want to hear. Okay. And those people really help me the most. And if you're fortunate enough to have either a family member or a friend who's willing to sit down with you and go, look, man, you've got to take a hard look at your life. I think you're missing the boat.
Starting point is 00:45:45 You might want to get some help. Unless you have someone standing in for you like that, how are you ever going to know? Because you have no honest self-reflection. An honest self-reflection from people who love you is the most valuable gift they can give you. Like, I know it's nice to get a pat on the back. It's also nice to get a good sobering, I don't want to say ass kicking, but a good, sobering, honest moment to sort of pull you back into reality. because people, they have no idea what they're doing, right?
Starting point is 00:46:31 Because their emotional bodies are so traumatized that even when they're 45, 50, 55, 60, they're still operating like children. Like, look at all the wars going on in the world. We live on a planet with enough resources for everyone, okay, for 100 lifetimes. And yet, we're scrounging. and manipulating and all this backstabbing and underhanding and what for like honestly everyone loses in that dynamic and so for me the greatest thing i can do for humanity is to get myself in the greatest state of alignment imaginable because when i'm in alignment everyone around me is in a
Starting point is 00:47:24 greater state of alignment. It's great for me. It's awesome for everyone else too. Think about that. If you chose to get yourself into the greatest state of alignment that you could within a year, every light that you touched would turn the gold. You would then have the Midas touch. You touch it, it turns to gold. Yeah, I think that that's been one of my definitions of success, and I think it is a lot, few others is that if you can make everyone around you better, then you by default become better. Yeah. And because, well, if you can make yourself better, by default, everyone else becomes better. Yeah. The inverse is also true. Right. Right. So I know some people are motivated to help other people. Yeah. And some people are motivated to help themselves. Who cares? Because it's a win-win, right? If you start out helping
Starting point is 00:48:20 others, because they're more present, you're more present. If you start out helping your because you're more present, they're more present. It's a win, win, win. This is where selflessness and selfishness are opposites of the same coin. Right. But through Christian doctrine, people have been taught that being selfish is wrong. If you're not willing to take time and energy and to invest it into your own life, every action that you're taking to help someone else, it's hypocritical.
Starting point is 00:48:54 because you yourself haven't taken your own advice. You yourself haven't used your own tools. You yourself haven't become more present. So when you're in alignment, who cares? Left or right? It all ends up being the same. Why? Because you are me and I are you.
Starting point is 00:49:23 Because of the concept of oneness, right? Einstein created E equals M.C. C squared, right, which is a theory of relativity, but what he left out was consciousness, right? And that's where I see equals MC squared, which means individual consciousness equals mass consciousness. Let's take Roger Bannister, for instance, right? The guy to break the four-minute mile. Well, as soon as you broke the four-minute mile, people all over the world broke the four-minute mile. Why? Because what he did got uploaded into the collective consciousness. And now anyone and everyone who had that desire could now make it happen because someone had already crossed that barrier.
Starting point is 00:50:05 So every human has immense value. If every human took one thing in their life that they chose to overcome within three generations, this would be the best planet to live on in the universe. You think it almost sounds like we're all part of one organism, Trying to learn how to become better. That's right. Yeah. Well, learning how to evolve out of survival-based strategies into thriving-based strategies, right?
Starting point is 00:50:39 So either you're locked into an inappropriate stress state or you're in a flow state. Like, think about this. How many nights did Kobe Bryant score 80 points in his amazing career? How many times? I have no idea. Once. Once. One time.
Starting point is 00:51:00 Right? How many times did Jordan score 75 points? Once. Once. That was it, right? That one night he was in a pure flow state. One night Kobe was in a pure flow state. And these guys shoot basketballs all day long since their little kids, right?
Starting point is 00:51:21 And they managed to get into a pure flow state one time. What if it were easier than that? What if you could remove if every athlete or every performer, singer, dancer, songwriter, everyone who's in the equestrian arts, right? If they reduced their lifetime accumulated stress load by 20%, when we went to watch them performed, we would be blown out of our minds, what humans would be able to do. We are not even close to sniffing the surface of what we could do.
Starting point is 00:52:12 We're not even close. Here's what I want you to do. I want you to go watch the NCAA 2020 wrestling championships. Okay? You're going to see Penn State has five wrestlers in the finals. All right? I work with the Nittany Lion Wrestling Club, and I help prepare all of the athletes.
Starting point is 00:52:34 that are part of the club to produce at the highest level. I want you to watch every one of those individual matches. What you're going to see is the wrestlers at Penn State, they're not struggling. And all the other wrestlers, they were. You should go watch it. It's one thing for me to talk to you about it. But literally, go watch Aaron Brooks's match, right? I will.
Starting point is 00:53:01 He wrestles Miles Amin. Miles Amin was the bronze medal champion at the last Olympics. Okay? 26-year-old guy. Aaron's like a 20-year-old kid. Okay? And he manhandles him with next to no effort. Like, watch it.
Starting point is 00:53:26 You'll see the poetry in how these guys deliver. And then you'll go, I get it. I've seen it with my own eyes. Right? You haven't experienced the work. Okay. And with these guys, I've only put maybe a few hours of time and energy into their bodies. But I got their nervous systems out of fight or flight into a state of peace and calm. And that's what it looks like when you're in peace and calm. Yeah, that's an inner like poetry is a great way. First time it's a beautiful form. And why shouldn't we be moving around and poetic formation. It's a great way to put it.
Starting point is 00:54:09 I want to, how are you doing on time? I know I got an hour with you. I don't want to. Yeah, I have like, I have 12 more minutes. Okay, perfect. Do you think maybe you could share a little bit about the dark room? Yeah, for sure, definitely. Yeah, the dark room was serious business.
Starting point is 00:54:28 I want to tell my next person real quick, so you want to give them a heads up. Yeah, thank you for taking time with us. Yeah, the dark room. That started out for me. I was in, I was in medical school at the time, and one of my buddies left this pamphlet inside of my little file, inside of my student mail file. And I opened it up and it said the dark room. And I started reading about it. And the second I got like two paragraphs in, I thought, that is where I need to go. And I started researching all of the science behind it. And then I started researching all of the science behind it. And then I started. started turning my house into a dark room chamber. So even before I went to the dark room, I was already, so that would be, yeah, I was already sleeping in complete darkness for about a year and a half. So my body was already producing a maximal amount of melatonin
Starting point is 00:55:29 every night when I was sleeping. And then what happened is my body started to heal. My hearing started to hear. started to heal at a much deeper level. My vision started healing much deeper level. My bowel started healing. My prostate started healing. Like everything was healing.
Starting point is 00:55:49 I went from getting up maybe six to eight, sometimes 10 times a night to urinate to never waking up to urinate. Like the dark helped support the process that I was in because I was going at it hard every single day. So when I went to the dark room, I don't think the other people that went there had already prepared themselves correctly. The challenge is I didn't know anything about the process. So when I went in, these people had been studying with Montakchia for a very long time. So when he was saying, okay, tap here and do this and do that, I had to learn everything that he was doing while incomplete dark.
Starting point is 00:56:37 with an eye mask on and having my eyes closed. And then after three days, these tiny little lights turned on out of the corner of my eyes. And I was like, well, and you could actually hear the light and all click. This one at first went click and this one went click and it was like two little flashlights right here out of the corner of my eyes.
Starting point is 00:57:06 And that's because my blood reached its maximum saturation point of melatonin. And then that kicked in, it caused my pineal gland to start producing a massive amount of pinolene. And then what's pinolene reached its maximal saturation point in my blood, my body started to release the first of two spiritual molecules, which is OM5E. And once that reaches maximal saturation point about a day later, it was DMT. And I was on DMT 24 hours a day, right? And I was having an exogenous experience. So even though I was in the dark room, in the physical, and imagine, I'm with 60 other people. Not once in 30 days did I bump into another human.
Starting point is 00:58:02 That's how heightened your senses are in that experience. imagine 28 days I don't bump into another person walking around and everyone walking around has a blindfold on with their eyes closed and there's not one photon of light available in the room that's a trick okay so so that experience was powerful in the sense that I got to walk through a thing called the door of all wonder and when I got on the other edge of the door of all wonder, I got to spend about three and a half days with the keeper of the zodiac. And he showed me how a soul falls to earth and exactly which three stars came into alignment in order to get my soul to decide to come to earth. And it was this very amazing backstage insight into the things that I think all humans used to know
Starting point is 00:59:10 when our appendix used to be the size of a small stomach, which was about 10,000 years ago, before the invention of cooked food and alcohol. And we used to produce endogenous vitamins that allowed our pineal gland and our pituitary gland to stay wide open. So we had a deep physical and spiritual connection. And so I, during that 28 days, got to feel into and see an experience what I imagine humans 10, 12, 13, 14,000 years ago used to experience. And so every week I got to go to a different part of the universe. and I was seeing that as clearly as if I looked out the window right now and I could see all of Transylvania.
Starting point is 01:00:07 Or I could look at Castle Brand with my eyes wide open. It was that crystal clear, 24 hours a day. I would literally wake up. I fall asleep for a short amount of time like an hour and I'd wake up. And as soon as I'd wake up, there would be a completely different scene in front of me and then I got to spend time with the Keeper the Kashik records, Akhavi, and he showed me a lot of my past history and what was going to come from me in the future. And this whole experience kept building on itself because every week I was in the dark room, Master Chia, he took us through a
Starting point is 01:00:45 completely different meditated process that was developed by the Taoist masters that actually spent months at a time in complete darkness in caves in China. So I was getting access to a technology that they had developed maybe eight, nine, ten thousand years ago. And I was able to do it in modern time. The difference from my trip to everybody else's is nobody else had prepared their body the way that I had prepared my body. And so they weren't able to have the experience that I was having
Starting point is 01:01:23 or see the things that I was seeing or experience the things that I was experiencing because they relied on limited, their tools had a limited amount of force in their ability to awaken. And what I mean by awaken is to activate inherent levels of intelligence at a physical, at an emotional, at a spiritual, at an energetic, at a mental, at a psychological, and at a psychic level. And so I already came in there with everything prepared very well. So when I stepped in, I literally took off like a rocket ship. It was profound.
Starting point is 01:02:03 I would tell anyone who's going into the dark room who hears this is motivated by it. I suggest you spend a year, year and a half going through the process that I did so you can have the most amazing experience on the planet. Wow. That's amazing. You know, I know you got to run. Thank you. I really enjoy talking to you.
Starting point is 01:02:27 You are a very interesting guy, and I believe you truly are helping people and that you want to help as many people as you can. And I wish more people were like that. Where can people, can you leave us where people can find you? Yeah. I think you're a hold of you. Yeah, yeah, that's easy. One, the first thing, obviously, is read the book Free for Life. It's a quick read.
Starting point is 01:02:48 You know, learn about the city. in chapter 3, learn a bit more about my story, learn about the philosophy in the second chapter. After you're done that, do yourself a favor. Go to the website, TrueBodyintelligence.com, and download or purchase the eight stepping stones, right? The eight stepping stones at inner freedom, even if you only get one, one module, get a module, learn about it, go through the healing process that that's part of the module. And then once you're complete there, decide if you want to go through the other stones, integrate pulling those stepping stones out. I mean, integrate moving up those stones into a higher level of energy. And then send me an email. Like if you want to take the next step, right,
Starting point is 01:03:41 you want to get into the body, you want to get rid of the tension and it doesn't matter where you're at in the world. I have practitioners in Luxembourg. I got practitioners that are Russian. I got practitioners that are South American, Chilean, Argentinian, Mexican, Jewish, German, English, Scottish, Greek. It doesn't matter where you're at in the world. You can get and receive profound work. And if I'm unavailable, these people will help you wake up in a beautiful thing. is they've been through the process. No one gets certified to become a stress-free facilitator or true body intelligence practitioner unless they're present and they're in alignment. They've worked through a big chunk of their stuff and they can help get you down the road. Easy way to do that is support at truebodyintelligence.com.
Starting point is 01:04:45 Perfect. Perfect. That was a great conversation. I'm really thankful that we've got to spend time together. Oh, thank you for allowing me so much space to share. Pleasure is all mine. It's fascinating. And I love talking to people who want to help people and want the world to be better and have gone through struggles to make themselves better. I think we can all learn from that. So thank you. Right back at you.
Starting point is 01:05:07 Thank you. You're welcome. So look, I want to give you my phone number. Okay. And then, you know, text me. Send me a text and let's stay in contact. Absolutely. If you hang on one second.
Starting point is 01:05:19 finish the recording okay yeah sounds good okay okay

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