TrueLife - Dr. Ann Marie Balkanski - Rapid Realization Part 2

Episode Date: February 1, 2022

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maze, lights my war cry, born from the blaze. The poem is Angels with Rifles. The track, I Am Sorrow, I Am Lust by Codex Serafini. Check out the entire song at the end of the cast. Yeah, I agree. On the topic of evolution, there's a fascinating book.

There's two books, and I'll go through them rather quickly. There's a book called The Breakdown. of the bicameral mind by Julian James. And he was a scientist slash philosopher, slash just all around brilliant person. I think he came out of Berkeley. I might be butchering that. But he wrote a book about left brain, right brain. And in this book, he says that we used, like the Broca's area and Vernica's area are the speech centers on the left hemisphere of the brain. However, he makes the argument that those centers used to be on the right side of the brain. And if you read the Homeric verses, if you read the great philosophers of the Greek and the Roman gods and these types of era poetry,

a common theme you find in them is like, Ares came to me or Mars came to me. The god of war spoke to me and told me I must go into the gates to fight Agamemnon. And, you know, Aphrodite came to me and told me that this is the woman of my dreams and I need to go and, you know, sweep her away from this evil man she's with. And so, and we today, we look at that as metaphor. We look at like, oh, he was, he was overcome with anger. But Julian Jane says, no, this was a voice they heard in their head. Each one of them heard Mars. They heard a voice talking to them.

And when it was an angry voice, it was Mars. When it was a voice of love, it was Aphrodite. Maybe it was Zeus. And, you know, it was the emotions made sound. And it's such a fascinating book. He goes on to back up what he says in doing work with today's schizophrenics. Because schizophrenics hear voices. And he would talk to some of these schizophrenics, and he says, you know, I realize you hear a voice in your head that tells you to do evil things.

But why do you do it? And the schizophrenic says, you don't understand. It's not just a voice in my head. It's like having someone this close to me yelling at my face and you're going to hurt this person now or I am going to keep doing this. No matter where you run, no matter where you go, that face, that voice is inside of your head and it will not stop yelling at you until you do it. I have to do it. And he draws this comparison. He goes, doesn't that sound a lot like, you know, the Homeric verses where Achilles was thrust into to start killing people?

And like, it just, it breaks down the evolution of the bicameral mind. And then he talks about how it potentially migrates to the left hemisphere of the brain, which where Ian McGilchrist comes in, he wrote a book called The Master and His Immissary. And he says that the left brain now has the speech centers. And so the right brain comes up with the concepts, but the left brain expresses them. And the left brain's gotten a little cocky and decides he doesn't need the right brain anymore. So he's decided to do away with the emotion and just become the analytical scalpel and talk about things and rationalize things. And so many people are left brain today that we've gotten away from what you were talking about earlier,

about the right hemisphere of the brain, seeing the beauty and the love and the concepts and the artwork in the world. And it just kind of makes sense to see that the hardcore, logical, analytical world we live in today is so left brain. Can you talk a little bit more about the left brain and right brain and what you think about that? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, that's a way for us to comprehend it, but it's all energy in the brain, it's a muscle. And what that book is talking about is neuroplasticity. You know, we can train and evolve our mind and create connections between the right and left brain.

It almost become friends with this analytical, logical, minded because it's not a bad aspect of us. There's no bad or good. It just is. So when we learn what it is and learn how to work with this thinking mind, analytical mind, which is a good aspect to be able to help us grow. But it serves its purpose to a point. Like the right side of the mind is more subconscious, more creative, more physical,

more emotional. It's kind of like, why would you get in a car and try to drive with your thoughts, you know, being linear mind? You're not going to be, you're not going to drive with your left side of the brain. You're going to learn how to tap into your physical body. is so it can put your hands on the steering wheel and actually drive. And we have to create an open

connection. I say we have to be like children. We have to go back to being like children who are so connected and so open, you know, and just connected to all aspects of their mind and kind of hold that place even in adulthood. We create this division between the two minds and then we say we have a left and right brain, but we can train ourselves, I feel, to have an open brain where it's not really divided in left and right. It's, you know, you have your analytical mind or thinking mind or linear aspect of mind when you need it during certain situations, but then you also have this more esoteric and feeling and creative aspect of the mind and helping it all just become more solidified and working with each other. You know, for me, meditation, hypnosis and

things like that can help with that that openness. Because, you know, we don't know all the abilities. We really don't. And what we can do. You know, we're still understanding where we came from. Like, you know, who we came from, how we were evolved, you know, going back to Darwinism and whatnot. But we definitely have the ability to change, to change it. We can choose to be. be more open to different things as opposed to linear and logical and a right or wrong way. You know, we do have to train it. It's the muscle. It's all training.

It's like lifting a weight and then, you know, five pounds and then lifting 10 pounds the next day. It's going to be hard. People are going to resist it. They're like, no, no, no, no. My way is the only way. Uh-uh. And, you know, but we have to kind of challenge ourselves and be open to. the possibility, more the possibility of what if, what could be there. You know, even looking and

being like, oh, maybe Darwin didn't know everything. Maybe Einstein didn't know everything and not be so held to those beliefs, those narrow ways of seeing, seeing life. That's, that, that for me is, is, you know, letting go of left side dominant and stepping into right side, but it's allowing it both to be opening connected, creating those pathways of connection between both aspects of our mind. You know, we don't want to shut off or reject or turn off the part of us. We just want to create a connected mind. Viability, neuroplasticity. If you don't use it, you lose it, right?

Right? It's so true. It blows me away. Even in this conversation, like I, you know, like why would I describe it left brain, right brain? Like that's, think about the speech I said. That's silly. like it's whole brain but i'm over here like left brain right brain like well that's how we understand things right and that's that's a thing so language is a way for us to

understand things and we have to find that common pattern in order to then carry us to different concepts and ideas right so sometimes and that's the part the part about communication it's it doesn't matter what i say it matters how you interpret it so even when you asked me earlier about about diversity versus inequality like those words I wanted to clarify what those even mean for me, the definition behind it, because we misconcue, like, what words mean to us because they mean different. Right. They do. And so right, left brain is kind of like a meeting ground for us to bring you out.

To bring you out to other. That's how most people view it. So, yeah. Yeah, that's beautiful. I believe the world is made of language. And, you know, when we talk about how as a child, we're giving. these things. Imagine, I think it was Terrence McKenna who says, you know, imagine what we do to children. Like, imagine being a baby in a crib and this beautiful little hummingbird flies in. And the kid just

sees this crazy, magical little beast flapping its wings and it's gorgeous. It's like, making its little beautiful sounds. And the baby sees a miracle. And then I just go and ruin it and go, that's called a bird, Johnny, that's a bird. Like, I've just taken away all the magic from it, right? It's gone. I love that. Yes. Yes. And we do that all the time. Yeah. And like we label stuff to make it fit in this tiny little box so we can store it.

But when we do that, we eliminate the magic and the beauty of life. Like it's not that you're Anne-Marie. You are this incredible woman that has so much love. She's helping people. She's seeing things. She's conquering things. Like, you know, we're more than labels. We're more than words.

And the world is made of language. What do you think? Oh, I love that. I love that. so much. The labeling definitely takes away from the beauty. I mean, when you think about a caterpillar turning into a butterfly, like, come on, that is just metamorphosis to the yunth. I mean, come on, that is magic happening right there. Like, when I had a conversation during med school, when we were doing, when we were, we were embryology, you know, we were learning about embryology and how

when a fetus is created how this folds into this and this fold into this and it creates the heart it creates the ears and it creates the hand and this folds and this folds and this folds and this folds and I'm like, but how? How does it know it to fold? Like I want to know like how? Oh, well, this chemical is released and then it knows to fold. How does the chemical know how to release? Like, how? Like, I want to know the essence of the why. Honestly, for me, it's magical. Like, it's just, it's just magical that life is created because a medicine does not explain it. It does not explain it. And that's why we even have medical conditions like idiopathic conditions. There's a huge lump sum of medical conditions, which they lumped under this disease called idiopathic. Have you ever heard of that? Idiopathic. Yeah, ideopathic disease is basically when I was in med school, because I was like, well, what caused

this disease? I'm doing like pathology at the time. And they're like, well, we don't know. That's why we're calling it idiopathic. I'm like, that's an idiot's answer. So funny. There has to be an answer as to why, you know, these are these diseases that seem to come out of nowhere are being greeted.

And when I learned about emotions and when I learned about emotions and when I learned about, the subconscious mind, it just, it answered everything. I'm like, no, this is not idiopathic. This is the pattern of us feeling sad, of us, of our beliefs, of our depression, of our anxiety. Every idiopathic condition is tied to stress. Like, hello? Can nobody see that pattern? Then why are we not focusing on just living more balanced, aligned, stress-free, understanding these emotions, how to let go of them, how to transform them, like the butterfly, like the caterpillar turns into the butterfly. Yeah, it's just like magic is the answer for everything. It is that energy source that we just cannot explain, not even doctors, medicine. No, you ask a doctor about embryology.

And if you can find an answer as to why that chemical is released and they may say it's big, oh, well, this chemical release and causes this to release and this to release. But how do we, this pattern of life, of cycles. It's like the reason, like, the moon circles around the earth, you know, women have, like, for example, their monthly cycles. Like, it is, everything is a pattern in a cycle, as you say, and, you know, 100% aligned with that, that, yes, and that cycle is life. And that's the magic, right? That's, that's the magic for me that we take away with labels. Yeah. Yeah. In some ways, language is our greatest gift, but it's our greatest, like, suppression as well. Yeah, both, right? I agree. It's a meeting ground,

But then it's like, you know, it's a way for us to be able to have these discussions and connect with people. And, you know, I was watching a documentary on the Fifth Kinds, like YouTube channel that talks about the stuff. You know what? Okay. I do, of course. You know, when they have this documentary, it's like this four hour. It's really good, of course. And maybe you've seen it.

And, you know, they were talking about the tablets that they found in these, like, the ancient, like, you know, communication. And, you know, it's, it's, it all. was a way to just data, to allow it to make sure, like, we all are not losing these concepts, these metaphors, these understandings of life. And when we make that turn into more than what it is, then that's when I think it's a disservice to us, right? When that becomes the only answer, kind of like idiopathic disease. That's not the end. That's not the, you know, and that's what I also see with, you know, when I have clients come into my office and they, um, You know, and they have been diagnosed with diseases before from a doctor.

And I'm like, you know, they become so tied to that that then it becomes the issue. It's like, oh, well, it's my this and it's my that and it's my this and it becomes their identity. And that's when that label becomes so tied to them that it's not serving them at all. You know, it's I like to say it's kind of like, you know, everybody can go through a remission. We can let go of these labels or these parts of us. We just, you know, have to have to learn how to heal, let to let go with them. But it's not who you are. That's not you, these like diseases and conditions.

It's just, it's just, you know, it's everybody has emotions, for example. Yeah. I love the metaphor of the cocoon. Just like a silkworm spins a web, it gets caught up in it. So do we spin our lives and get caught up in it, right? And then pretty soon all we can see is this cocoon around us. But on a, on taking it. one more level further, I think that that's where we are as a world right now.

Like we are cracking out of this cocoon as a butterfly. We've been a caterpillar forever. And all of a sudden we've gone into this deep sleep where we've just had labels and gone through emotions. And we right now, we're cracking open this. Hey, what's this internet thing? Hey, what is this? Like, we don't even realize our own form and how beautiful we are.

We are like, I don't feel right. This is weird, you know? But we're going to emerge as this butterfly that is going to take flight and just surprise the very depressed among us, how beautiful they are, you know? Yeah. It blows my mind. It reminds me of one other concept of, I might mix up these two words, but it's, have you ever heard of the theory of recapitulation like phylogeny recreates phylogeny or something along those lines?

It says this. It says that when we are born, we go through every stage of our evolution to the process. So when you're born, first you're like a little swimmer, like you'd be a sperm like a little swimmer sea creature. And then you meet an egg and then those two cells unite. And then if you were to watch a sonogram and watch the baby develop as they're being born, what you would see is this egg begin to divide cells. And then it becomes like a little sea creature. It grows a little tail. And then it kind of looks like a little monkey.

You know, I don't know if I don't really think we came from monkeys, but the theory of recapitulation says that we go through every stage of our human evolution in the world. boom when we're created. It's, it's, it's pretty fascinating to think about. And there's so many, if you look up the theory of recapitulation, it will, it will tell you in detail and give you the ideas of who came up with this stuff. But it's fascinating. And it totally reminded me of what you said about our evolution and how we go in patterns. And it just fits the motif we're talking about how everything, how we are a pattern. And if you look for the pattern, you can see it everywhere in yourselves and other people. And once you can identify that pattern, I think that's when you can really start helping yourself and other people.

And that's why we went through those traumas of like, okay, I went through the pattern. Now it's my turn to help someone else through the pattern. And it just shows like, hey, we're the same person. And, you know, what you see in other people is only what you can see in yourself. So if you can only see, if everyone around you is an a hole or everyone who's bad, guess what? You're bad. Yeah, you should find the beauty in that other person because otherwise you're going to see, speaking of beauty, look at this beautiful little girl.

I see. I love you, lady. What's that? Yeah, go ahead. Drink some water, yeah? Yeah. Yeah, she's, I don't know what I would do without her. She's got a own podcast, this girl.

Ah, nice. Good for her. Yeah. I had some other questions written down I wanted to ask you. Let me see. Are you doing okay on time? Oh, yeah, yeah, I'm good. I love this stuff, man.

Me too. Me too. Because I wrote down like a bunch of pages. So let's see what we got here. Have you noticed an uptick in issues of mental health since the outbreak of this pandemic or since the economy kind of crashed? Definitely more awareness, I think, because people are able to be with themselves more and, you know, we're limited to distractions out, you know, because we can't go out or, you know, there's, there's such a huge transformation, even in the job market. Like I remember recently listening, and a lot of people are leaving, you know, their,

their jobs because they want to find more balance. So now corporations are trying to, you know, increase all these benefits because they want to, they don't have employees. And because people are becoming more aware, 100% feel that we're becoming more aware of this life and that it is precious and it is a gift and it is an experience that you have the ability to manifest it or create it to what you want. So I'm definitely seeing a huge uptick and awareness and people wanting to help themselves because of that.

Yeah, I think so too. I really think that there's a lot of people that COVID has helped in understanding, like, or waking up, like, what am I doing? Every day, every day I wake up and I leave my family and I go somewhere else. And then I drop my kid off at a place. I don't really know. And then I come home. What am I doing?

This is the exact opposite of what I should be doing, you know? Yeah. It makes me. It's just, I think we're headed towards a really good place. And it's because of the crisis that we're in. And I think crises lead to good places. You know, they happen for a reason, right? Yeah.

Yeah. And people are seeing also, you know, I have to, again, commend, like, technology. it's if because of the technology that now even people are more open to we're having greater reach and we're able to create our lives that are that that give us the freedom maybe to be in a beautiful island like hawaii and also you know do a podcast and have reach and and and you know do what feels good and passionate you feel good about you know and and that's that's the the awareness that people are coming to, I believe, you know, having these, these platforms like this. Right.

To meet people no matter where they are. And, you know, there are more platforms like this that are becoming more evolved and better, even how it does its service just because there's more of a need now. So I think that's helping us to create more balance in our life, the technology. you know, there's obviously like another side of it that we can look at where it's like some people will say, oh, it's, it's not, it's good, it's isolating us and whatnot. I mean, that is for you to choose to not isolate yourself then. To still have that balance that you, that feels right for you to be able to engage with others, but also, you know, have maybe freedom of pursuing a job that allows you to be remote, remote because you're seeing that now. People are wanting to go specifically to jobs that are

remote and then, you know, corporations are being like, no, no, no, no, no, come back to the office. And they're like, no, no, no, no. I know I can do this here. And I'm just fine. So why? Yeah. I hope that that's what people, like, that's one thing I hope people take away from COVID. Like instead of this being a pandemic, maybe this is what freedom looks like. Maybe this is the beginning of what the future is going to be. And I think it's anybody's game. You know, technology is not good or bad. It's neutral. It can be, it could be the greatest liberator, or it could be the greatest suppressor. And it's just what we choose to do with it, right? Like, it's, it's there for everybody. And in a way, I think things have always been so crazy. It's just

now we know about it. And the question is, what are we going to do about it? And so I think, I really do. I think we're headed towards some. a world in which education takes new forms and it equalizes as much as it can the world around us. You know, I, I, I'm curious, like, information is everywhere. I'm curious what you think about this. Like, when I think about psychology and philosophy and, and hypnosis, like, it seems that a large part of it, has been used to dictate people's beliefs to them. Like you were saying that some doctors will prescribe medicine to people,

and they become that reality. They become the, oh, I am, I have diabetes, so that's why I'm heavy. I have schizophrenia. That's why I'm crazy. I have depression. That's why I'm not fun to be around. And they've taken these labels because we, on some level, medicine has decided that it's good to give people labels.

And what does your take on that? So it, there's, there's, it's, it's like the placebo effect. So we have the placebo effect because belief is very powerful, the power of belief. And so if we believe that's what it is, that's what it is. And I mean, this is, this is kind of a deep concept for people to kind of wrap their heads around. But, you know, we, the power of belief. can eliminate a lot. You spoke about books.

I don't know if you heard Tom Campbell, the big toe. He's a physicist. The Big Toe, which is the theory of everything. The toe is theory of everything, T-O-E. And, you know, he talks about this and they're very, very good. I mean, he's a physicist, so he's able to kind of put the science, the logical mindiness to the metaphysical world. in there and, you know, how how it's explained is just that we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, uh,

create our reality. Oh, can you hear me? Uh, hello? Oh, I, I, I'm, I, I, I, I, I, uh, you sound distant now. speak um i didn't i didn't touch anything but i can't hear you now you sound distant uh oh okay i'm back i'm back i think it was me there it goes okay i'm sorry about that no no no no so um the big toe he's a physicist yeah it's a really good book it's a dense book it's it's a good read but it's a very big read um and collectively as a culture we are creating beliefs. So if you think about, you know, my phone, you know, the only reason why we have phones is because collectively as a society, we have created a phone. So now this is a physical reality. So the same thing with the building that I'm living in. I did not manifest this,

but society is manifested. So society creates this realm, this reality that we're in, right? It's like a dream world that we're in that was that that is an illusion in a sense. It's a collective illusion. And we cannot change its collective illusions because we're kind of vibrating in this realm of this collective illusion. And medicine is the same way. So beliefs of diseases are the same way. Or, you know, it is a big, big, big, big, big, big placebo because it's so deeply ingrained in us as a society right now. And I mean, in my line of work, I've seen some miracles. So I've seen some miracles that have happened. That is just like you have to experience that to actually believe the power of belief that the mind can do these things when we eliminate ourselves from these collective illusions of false reality.

That is not real. And that's why I said this is going to be a deep, this is kind of a deep pill. And I don't know. It was hard for me to even swallow. And I still continue to learn how to swallow this by taking in, you know, reading and meditating and learning and whatnot. But, you know, we are experiencing a big placebo even around how we treat, you know, how to live. Our building that we live in is almost like a big placebo because there are so many people

that bought into this manifestation, this creation. You know what I mean? So everybody like multiple, like if you think about a thousand people believing in one thing, then like you're one person that does. doesn't want to believe in that. It's it's like you're fighting against the current because that current is going in this direction, right? But for the people that really, really, really believe something, they can kind of step out of that current and not see that, not see that. I'm explaining this clearly. It's beautiful. Like I haven't, I didn't even think about that. But now that I,

now that I listen to the way you put that, it seems like there is a large, like if you look at our society, it's been engineered that way. Like that is no child left behind. That is every kid should learn the same thing in every school. That is the people on top wanting us to live in a world where we think the same. And I could understand why they would want to do that for national unity or, you know, for... Some order.

Yeah, some order. It helps. There's nothing wrong or right about this. So it is an order. It's a way of being able to construct something to be able to understand it. because it's kind of like the ant on the floor, you know, looking up, seeing the dust particles in the air and thinking it's stars. Like it's, they have their own perception that they have to be able to grasp upon their experience. And we are the same way.

Like, we have to grasp upon this experience we're having, no matter how real or not real it may seem. So it's kind of like the ant. Like, we just have to understand what we're experiencing. and be okay with not knowing things that we don't know. Yeah. Yeah. It makes, it's beautiful.

I, it just, it makes my mind explode. Like, I think that there's so many people trying to keep this illusion alive and like, nobody wants it anymore. It's like, this illusion is dumb.

I don't want it anymore. I'm not going to do it. Yeah, I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm, let's just go hold hands and sing and, like, come by. Right. Why not? Yeah, I mean, like, why do we have to have, you know, these, you know, animals are huge for me.

And children and animals. I mean, that's like the main thing. It's like no matter what I still see these, you know, people going through trauma, you know, and it's not easy. It's definitely not easy to watch and be okay with. But I'm telling you that when you, when you gain. an understanding of that this is not the only reality that we have to kind of pull it back, that this is not the only reality that we have, that we have other realities that are beyond

this physical existence. It really creates a sense of like I can live. I can just let go and trust that, you know, that it's going to be okay, you know, and that I don't need to rush or push or force, I can just kind of let, let everything involve the way it needs to and let someone have that experience and hope that they grow and learn from it. They eventually will grow and learn from it. There's another really, really, really good book. I mean, I'm esoteric, I guess, spiritual. I love it. I love it. And there's, you know, Michael Newton, who is, he does Life Between Lives, Hypnosis. That's what his model of approaches, Life Between Lives, Spiritual. I lives. And his name is Michael Newton. He's well known for that. And a lot of people know about

hypnosis being like past life regression work. I don't do that. I focus on present life. It has its place. I'm not saying that it doesn't. But for me, I like to focus on present life. Because there's a lot of work we can do in present life. And so Michael Newton really explored this life between lives exploration. He found that when he was taking people on these past life experiences that they would pop into this like life between lives experience that was spiritual the spiritual and um world reality experience whatever um and man that that he he's collected like tons of tons of um you know uh research reports from people that he did this on and their answers are all like the same it's like how how do these people come up with the same answers of like

soul contracts or, you know, their, their soul groups or, or their purpose or, you know, just a lot of answers that just made complete sense when I did it. And I did it on myself, of course, and had that experience. And when you, when you go through that, it's just like, wow, like, there's, there's so much to this non-physical world that is there. And that, we took a kind of side turn, But I highly encourage anybody to read, read that. If, you know, if you're looking for discovery, I want to just understand, like, who we are on a more essence, like on a more energy, like sphere itself. Journey of Souls or Journey of Souls is his book. And it's so good.

And it just answers so many questions. And it's really great research. He's a pioneer in regards to the hypnotherapy field doing that. What is a sole contract? So we basically, you know, in like between lives, we have almost like these groups that we are evolving as a spirit with. And we work with them. That's why we may meet people that feel like we've known them from a badest life or we've feel just this instant connection with certain people. And it's because we have known them from

the spirit realm or that realm. And we meet people on a deep level and we basically come to an agreement that they're going to teach us a lesson. So speaking about kind of what I brought up earlier is that we say, you know, we want to evolve as an energy. We want to grow because the only way for us to be able to become wise is to experience. It's kind of like reading, you can read the menu at the restaurant, but until you actually take that bite of food, that is like the experience, right? And so the spirit's the same. It wants to experience. That's how it learns. It's how it becomes wise and grow. So we come into our life form in order to be able to do that. So we make agreements with people within our group or maybe even outside of our group that we became friends with

say like this is what I want to learn. I want to learn how to control my emotions or to have compassion or to really experience love or to you know to to have these lessons in life. So we have a contract with someone to help us learn those things. And so we even almost go through like a school to kind of give us these cues within our life, which are called synchronicities. And so the synchronicities are the cues to kind of, you know, gravitate to this. That's why things will happen. You're like, you just feel like I need to follow this or I need to speak with this person or I need to do this.

And then that becomes this beautiful synchronicity that turns into like these amazing, like, who knows, life-changing events or, you know, becomes your partner or whatever it is. And it's because, you know, these are the cues that we were kind of kind of prepared for before we came into this life to fill our contracts with one and another. So it's an agreement that we have with different people or different spirits to be able to learn things in this experience. I love that. I've never heard of that before.

And so much better because I heard that. Thank you. It's beautiful. It makes so much sense. You're going to love his content. Michael Newton. So he's written three main books, The Journey of Souls, Destiny of Souls. destiny of souls and life between lives.

And it's just all about him doing this hypnosis and then finding, and it's the reports from these people. So he kind of collects them all and just gives like the overall responses that they had. And it's profound. It is. It sounds amazing to me. Yeah, I think, you know, I've had some interesting experiences too on the concepts of time. and after you've had certain experiences, there's no going back.

You know, there's no, once you leave the illusion, you can never have that illusion without skepticism again. And it's, in some ways, I think that maybe some people need to go through this. Maybe it's, they need to go through the illusion first. Maybe they're at a different time than us or, you know, because time is such an amazing concept. We're talking across time zones. If you live in a different country, you could be in a different day. You know what? Like I think the Israeli calendar and the Saudi Arabia calendar, like they're in different years.

You know, the Russian calendar is different. Like, why is our time right? Maybe, you know, maybe it is the year 900 right now. You know, who might have said it's the year 2022? You know, and you can find evidence in that particular idea of how people are living in different parts. But yeah, I got to reread. I got to read that stuff. It sounds amazing to me.

It sounds super amazing. It's fascinating. It really is. What else do I have on here? I have, do you, are you familiar with the different types of, is there like a certain type of psychology you use when you talk to people? Or is it something you've kind of invented on your own? Is it like a Gestalt therapy?

Or what, what are you familiar with it? What do you like to do and what do you like? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I do, I do that type of therapy. You know, I, I, parts work, I, F,S, like, those are kind of what I bring in, but I do that while they're in a trans state. Wow, when they're in that relaxed, more trans state. I do regression where we look at a past event or memory or experience in order to reframe how you experience it. Because most people will look at something and maybe they're charged about it.

So an example would be, let's say someone's terrified of swimming. And I live in Florida. So I have, oh, you're in Hawaii. So I love the beach. I live really close to the beach. And, you know, I'm not scared of water. And water's fine. I can swim in it.

It can be, there can be sharks way below. I'm okay. I've done scuba diving, so I'm good. But other people, they can be in, like, maybe waste deep water, and they're terrified, terrified. So there's nothing. It doesn't have to do with the water. It has to do with the way that they view the water, the emotions. And so I help them kind of shift.

the perspective or create new pathways on viewing how to view the water because what created that perspective is an event or memory. It's an event memory or a trauma that made them physically react in that way. And so I communicate with the subconscious mind in past memories to see what we need to do in order to come to a different view, a different way of viewing it so then you're not perceiving it the same way. So that's regression work. I focus on present life regression. I don't do a lot of past life. I can. I'm able to. I do it, but that's not my focus. I believe that we chose to come into this life, and we chose to come into this life to learn and grow. So there's a lot of growth that we can do in this present life. So I like to focus on that.

What other? I mean, I am more of, I'm a human. So, and this is probably why some of my clients do come to me is because I do have that coaching way of approaching. a person as opposed to authority figure. You know, I want, you know, I share metaphors or experiences for them to be able to understand because when someone comes to you for help, there's this almost immediate fear of judgment. And it's a lot of reactions that we have. We fear judgment. When someone's coming to me and talking about things that are, they have never spoke to anybody about before. And that's why they're coming because it's something that's, you know, deep. So there's this letting go of judgment, knowing that I see you from a very different

lenses, you know, from the lenses of being able to heal myself and help myself and I see you as your energy and not what's on the outside. I see you as connected energy. I don't see you as a human in a sense like this in the human form. I see you, I see all your beliefs or ideas which are limiting you as impressions from society that are not yours. You just, took them on and made them yours but they're not yours and so there's no judgment and so i approached my clients that way in a more like coaching manner of like hey we come together and help you you know i i'm not here to just for you to just vent me i'm going to help give you a way of something but it's up to you to want that you know there's like a meeting in the middle so there's a lot of different

that i use and i also say that's also because of my path you know that that um mindfulness that I'm big about that. Becoming the observer, the more aware you are, the more you can choose to change. If you're aware of something, you have free will to be able to a different path. But you have to be aware of it. Yeah, I agree. It's almost like you become the voice in someone's head to become the guiding voice. And it's like, hey, I'm going to be in your head for a little bit.

I'll see I do it and then I'm going to leave and then you do it. You know what I mean? It's beautiful though. I find it, I find it, I find people that enjoy helping other people to be beautiful. And so I'm loving our conversation. That's why you're beautiful too. You're just saying that because it's true. You're helping people.

Trust me, the ability to speak out, you just like, you know, give, to be, to be, to be, vulnerable with yourself. You know, you are human and you're letting people know that. And I think that is the most, I think that is already healing to make sure people know that they're not alone. That whatever they're posting on their Facebook or on social media is like there are, we are human. We all feel feelings and we all been through things and, you know, you're not alone. And I think that's, that's what we do when we share. And so you've done that. Yeah, I agree. I really think that there's something, like, I've been reading a lot of linguistics lately. And, you know, I think there's a problem. While we talked about it

earlier, while language is a great gift, it's also a problem, especially when we begin changing. I guess language is always evolving. However, I read, there's something called the Sapier-Warf theory. S-A-P-I-R, S-P-I-R-R-T-E-R-F-E-R-F-R-T-E-R-T-E-R-E-R-E-R-E-R-RF-E. And what it says is that the more complicated a language, the better communicators people are. For example, you know, some languages, like, in German, they have this term called Schadenfrefreude. And Schadenfreude is one word that means the concept, I get happy when something bad happens to you.

You know, and you think, like, oh, I've had that feeling before. I don't know there was a word for it. In the Japanese language, there's a certain word for the clouds slightly covering the moon, but light still shining out of it. I forgot what that word is called. But there's, you know, there's these one word for this giant concept. And the better and more elegant you are, the better command you have for us at the English language, the better you are able to communicate. And you had spoke earlier about how crucial it is. to define terms because I could say something and it means something totally different to me

than to you. You know, and what if what if I was here in Hawaii and I was speaking to someone in India? They may, or I'll give you a better example. I was at a meeting with, at my child school and we were having a parent group meeting with some counselors and some teachers. And one of the counselors asked, can someone please tell me what they want for their children? And a beautiful young woman who was Japanese God, I said, I want my child to be obedient. And I'm thinking, that's the last thing I want for my kid.

I don't want, you know, my idea of obedience is someone, do this, do this now. But that was not, she didn't want her kid to be that. She wanted her kid to be respectful and kind and be a good person. Community, right? Yeah, yeah. The Asian culture is all about like community, like serving the community. Yeah, and so it's, you know, like a light went off in my head like, oh, wow, it's so easy to get caught up in our language, especially when we speak a same language, but it might mean something different. So, you know, I think that in the future, you know, as I'm going off on this tangent, like, isn't it interesting that the Tower of Babel was about all these people that spoke a language and then they were dispersed all over the world?

You know, is that metaphor telling us that we need to be able to all communicate effectively if we want to build something great? Or is that saying, hey, when you guys look at together, you're a problem. I've got to move you all around here. You know, I guess it could be said either way. But I really think that the future of linguistics is imperative for us to build the world we want to live in. We need to be able to better understand how to communicate effectively. So I can see what you're feeling. And this gets me back to what we were talking about math.

And, you know, like, I am really enjoying this conversation. And I can see the love in your eyes and I can see a smile. And I know you're having fun and I'm having fun. But there's something to be said about if we were sitting next to each other. And that's something is called the felt presence of the other. When you sit with somebody that you're trying to help, you could probably do it on the phone. But it would be less effective because you're not there with them. And when we're together, there's that felt presence of the other.

And I feel like that is such an important part of linguistics because so much communication comes from more than words. I think that's a song, but there's more, you know, there's something there. And I think this helps. I think it's nice to open up the world to have conversations across the world. But I hope we don't lose this felt presence of the other. And I guess I'm a little concerned with that with so much distance. learning and so much work from home. While there's such benefits, I'm afraid of losing the felt presence of the other.

Can you talk about that a little bit? Yeah, no, I get what you mean. I guess that's why I would not leave my live aspect of my practice because I like having that. But then again, there's like the ability to have a session with someone in the UK is awesome. You know, that maybe listen to my podcast or, you know, met me through some other means and just really aligns with how I, because it's building that trust. And they're like, I really want to work with you. And being able to work with them across the U.S. is fantastic. But also, yes, I do agree that there's, you know, there are more subconscious cues that you can pick upon, pick up upon when you're sitting sitting right next to each other.

Like even the direction of their feet, you can tell when someone's ready to step out. They're like, okay, don't want this conversation. Feet are turned that way. I want to go that way. you know like if i can't see your feet which i can't right now then you know but you're you're you're at the screen you're you're you're facing towards me so it's like you know um those subconscious cues can be gained more in person i 100% agree and i mean i i don't think we're gonna 100% lose that you know i so i'm not as worried like you know there are opportunities i don't know how it is

and actually it was in hawaii i was in the big island it wasn't too bad that was in september in regards to like, you know, still having options for us to engage, you know, and I'm, where I am in South Florida, we have those options. So I'm not fearful that that's going to go away. And I feel comfortable and safe with being able to engage, you know, in those environments with who I'm engaging with. So I'm not concerned that it's going to go away. I just think this is like the cherry on the top. It's kind of like another additive that's there for us to be able to to engage with people. So I'm not too concerned, but maybe it says my optimistic side. Let me ask you this.

If Dr. Anne-Marie could build the world and have a huge impact, if you could build the world 20 years from now, what are some things that would be in that world that aren't in that world today? What would be in that world? Oh boy. That's a good question. Well, 20 years from now, it would be in that world. What are some changes you would like to see? I mean, things that I cannot change now. I do believe that there is an order.

and that it needs to start with the top to help trickle down. So I do believe that there needs to be big changes and influence in our government, you know, in our corporations. And I do believe that there are corporations now that are becoming more mindful, in a sense, ethically conscious. and I think that's where we would need to start at least to have representation. That is not maybe focused on monetary gains or abundancies in that nature because we're even culturally stigmatized to focus so much on financial gain.

We think that is power. We think that is purpose, that financial wealth is, is kind of the end game, you know, and, and there's a lot of people within corporations and government that that are doing that. So I think that that needs to change for us to see that that that's not, you know, and I've worked with people that are that, that are very wealthy and, you know, they're not happy. Like, you know, it's like, you got all the money in the world. And it's like, you know, so, so we're here. We all want the same thing. We all want to, to feel peace. We all want to feel happy. all want to feel balanced. And I think if more people that are in control at the higher level

can be able to become aware of that and kind of grow their own awareness and empathy, then I think maybe that will trickle down. So I would love for a lot of transformations to occur, but I have to start from the top, in my opinion. Yeah, here in Hawaii, we have a saying that says the fish rots from the head down. You can ask any fishermen. They love fish in there. Fish and flowers. We got them all. Oh, man. Yeah, I mean, Hawaii is just, it's gorgeous.

The culture is just, I love it. I loved it. The culture. It's beautiful. The culture there is just so strong, you know. It'll change you. If you come and live here, it'll totally change you. You know, there's no billboards over here.

There's no advertising. Like, I didn't realize that until, you know, in Southern California, I grew up in a lot of my friends. I didn't realize how. how much I was influenced by the environment. But so many of me and my friends, we were pretty hard chargers, booze it up all the time. And so much of my conversations were about,

you know what I'm doing right now? I got a new navigator. I got a boat. Hey, guess what gets where I live? You know who I'm talking to right now? Like, so much of my conversations, like that was the conversation. And it was like just this constant,

like, you know what I'm doing? Oh yeah, here's what I'm doing. Here's what I'm doing. And like, that was the whole conversation. And as I started, And I moved to Hawaii in 06. And I was like that for a long time. And then one day I got a call from my friend.

And the conversation was like, it was more him telling me these things he was doing. And I'm like, this guy is pretty arrogant. And I went, oh, that's me. That's, this is my conversation I always have. Oh, me, I'm the arrogant one. I am such an arrogant chump. No wonder people think like that. I am that, you know, but it took me, it took being deconditioned over here.

And I started thinking about like, I wonder. I wonder why I'm like that. And then when I went home, like I, I, you know, run in a car and there's, you're just bombarded with like, here's the perfect family. You should drink this alcohol. Look at this pretty girl. Look at this guy. Look at this car.

Look at these clothes. It's everywhere. It's just like bombarding you. How can you not feel inadequate when you're constantly bombarded by things that appear to be better? You know, and it's this culture of corruption. It's this, it's this. idea that money has seeped into anything and corrupted it, which brings me to an interesting

question about, you said that perhaps one of the best ways to change things is to start at the top. And I think it's a similar force in corporations, in government, and in people. And that is this idea of corruption. You know, people, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. And I've kind of nailed it down to like, you know, it's the corruption. People are probably pretty good, and maybe they think that they are providing the greater good for people. But do you think as a doctor and as a therapist, you have helped people become uncorrupted, and you've used different techniques to do that? Do you think that we could somehow use some of those techniques to change the society or the governments we live in?

Right now. Which is on a small scale. Maybe we could start with, like, what are some of the techniques you use to help? people become uncorrupted. And then we could talk about if we could apply those to a bigger form. So someone has to want to want it, right? And that's the biggest change is if they don't want it, then they're not going to do it. And so if they want to want it, then they'll do it. And that's just part of part of their experience that they need to have. So like, when I have people come to me, it's, it's, they're not really fully aware of even what they want yet, you know, but in the end,

it's always peace and happiness. And so it's like balance, peace, happiness, you know, time with family because it creates peace and happiness, you know, creates this purpose, value within their life. And when when people can kind of become aware of their why behind something, then it's, it may be able to create change. So like people that are in large corporations or maybe heads of governments or whatever may be, you know, if they go deep into the why, you know, okay, well, like, had a client. They're like, you know, I want my company to be evaluated at, you know, $50 billion or whatever.

And I'm like, okay, well, what will come of that? I'll be able to buy a jet and fly around the world. And I was like, okay, well, what will come of that? I'll be able to have free time and be with my wife and be with my kids and just travel around the world in my jet. And I was like, okay, well, what will come of that? happiness, peace, and then it's like, well, you don't need to have this much in the bank in order to do that, do you? You know, you're chasing your why, but it's not, it's not really, it's kind of like you're going in this huge circle loop of like you think that that's what's going to get you that, but it's not, right?

More money, more problems. The bigger his company got, the bigger, the more, the more he was stressed and just having to worry about, you know, know, this process or this person or this deal. And it was just more, but obviously this person wanted simplicity. You know, they wanted to be happy. And I would say if we can just identify our why behind what we're doing, the real why, not the superficial why. Oh, well, I want to have a lot of money. Well, why do you want to have a lot of money? Because, you know, people will accept me now and I can wear nice clothes and do this. I'm like, well, why do you want that?

So I just want to be loved. Like, it's always about like, it always goes to just wanting to be, you know, loved, accepted, peace, balance. It's, it always goes back to that. And the, the, the stigma that we create socially is that money is our way to get that. But, you know, it's, that's, that's the belief that that will get us that. but it doesn't. It doesn't really get us that. So I think the why, just really digging into the why we're doing things. And I guarantee you, I'll always go back to that. Yeah. People actually sat with themselves and really uncovered that. Like, I would love to sit with someone and be able, well, we'll come with that. We'll come with that. And it will stump them, you know. And people that don't want to listen, though, will not listen. You know, it's, they're just not.

It's just there's just, and that's fine. You know, that's just you got to right now and we have to meet people where they're at in order to create change. You know, we can't, I can't create change with force. You know, I have to, I have to kind of allow that change to occur by having them see the change, not me to see it for them. That makes sense, you know. Yeah, it totally does.

It's, it's, it's fascinating to have conversations with people you care about. And then like, you know, you, you're trying to. to talk to him and then like you just touch a nerve and they get super upset and you're like oh okay i see where we're going you know i i i i talk to some people at my work and i and i there's a there's this older guy and a younger guy and the old i feel bad for the older guy like he he went down a wrong path and his life is very difficult right now and he he's not ready to change but there's a young guy that looks up to him and i i have i try to talk to that guy and i try to explain to him, you know, sometimes metaphorically, sometimes straight to him. Like, do you realize,

like, do you, like you, this is your mentor, right? Yeah. Okay. That's your mentor. You know what I mean? Like, look what's happening in his life. Do you think that what's happening in his life or a direct reflection of his decisions? Do you think that maybe you're making some of those decisions? And if you are, is it possible that you could end up like that guy? You know, it's, yeah, I'm out of here. And they walk away and it's like, oh, they're not ready to hear it. You know? And it makes me sad because I don't want that to happen to them. But it's necessary. These conversations are something.

People have, I've been on the opposite side of that and walked away and been mad and yelled. Me too. But I've gone back to it. Yeah, right? You go back to. Who we all. Help me. Yeah.

Oh, me too. Trust me. I had it the other day with my, with my boyfriend. And, you know, I mean, it's, it's part of being human, part of the growth. And just like learning how to accept where people are at. I mean, it's the hardest thing, especially when I will talk to parents that call me for their kids that are maybe using drugs. And, you know, of course, you want your child to change.

And the thing is they need to want it. You know, it's my mother is in recovery. Well, my mother's in recovery. So she's been sober. But when, you know, she was using it was like, I wanted so badly for her to change that I was doing the changing. I would search programs. I would, you know, try to hold her hand and do the work for her.

And, you know, there came a day where it just was like, I got to lift my hands, wash them, and just be like, I can't live your life. You have to want it for yourself. And that was the day she said, I'm done. You know, it's like she needs to take empowerment to recognize that she was worthy of that. And it was not easy and it's never easy. So whenever I talk to someone that's trying to, you know, that's calling for someone else, I don't see them unless I talk to them because I need to make sure that they want it.

Because honestly, I don't want to waste your money. Hey, you're going to waste your money if you come to me. They need to want it. Like they may be just doing it just to shut you up, you know. And that's the reality of it. Just we have to allow people to live their experience. The only thing you can control is yourself. So be able to live by, I would say live by example first.

You know, that is the biggest influence. If you can live the life that you would want them to live, then you're influencing them far more beyond than, you know, do as I say, not as I do, right? Like, there's so many people that will do, tell people how to live life, but are they living life that way? And that's the biggest influence subconsciously to just demonstrate, demonstrate that, you know, demonstrate peace, demonstrate love, demonstrate completely. passion, demonstrate forgiveness, demonstrate all of that. And then, you know, they're going to want a piece of that because you're living in this place of bliss all the time.

You're living in this place of bliss. Or you're just like, ooh, it's good. It's true. I often argue, like, especially with the situation we're in now, I realize that I don't have all the facts and I am given just little scraps of information about what's happening. But there are people in positions of a thing. authority who feel it necessary and maybe rightfully so i'm not sure but to present the public with the greater good like yes this is bad but it's the best thing for everybody like i i have such a

difficult time with that argument and maybe it's because i'm not in a position to see all the numbers or something like that but i i don't i don't believe that anybody should have the right to make the greater good argument and i go back and forth sometimes but you know know, I just think it's wrong for me to decide for other people because I don't know what they're going through and people didn't know what was right for me when I was going through things. So maybe that's why I think that. What is your take on the greater good argument and how to maybe look at it? Yeah.

Honestly, I too don't know enough to be able to say like, hey, this is right for the greater good. I just know that I feel I know what's best for me, you know, and because I'm the only one that's in my issues. And so I can't say what the, you know, and then that's the same thing as a parent, right? We, we can't know exactly what that maybe child needs. We got to kind of explore who they are and what is it that they like and enjoy in order to be able to kind of help them find themselves. We don't tell them who they are. So the idea of greater good is, is definitely a hard pill for me to swallow. I'd be like, yeah, there's one, one size fits all. I, I, I, I, I, do believe like there's there is common modalities in regards to how to live life that that are

our spot on. Right. So for example, so like love and you know, the common common, the common concepts, you know, going back to love, forgiveness, compassion and all those things. Those are the only things that I think are good for the greater good. Nice.