TrueLife - Drexwell Seymour - Wake Up & Live
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Darkness struck, a gut-punched theft, Sun ripped away, her health bereft.
I roar at the void.
This ain't just fate, a cosmic scam I spit my hate.
The games rigged tight, shadows deal, blood on their hands, I'll never kneel.
Yet in the rage, a crack ignites, occulted sparks cut through the nights.
The scars my key, hermetic and stark.
To see, to rise, I hunt in the dark, fumbling, fear.
Fearist through ruins maze, lights my war cry, born from the blaze.
The poem is Angels with Rifles.
The track, I Am Sorrow, I Am Lust by Codex Serafini.
Check out the entire song at the end of the cast.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the True Life podcast.
I hope everybody's having a beautiful day.
I hope that you got to awaken and you begin to understand that there's a miracle about
happen in your life if you're willing to do what my next guest says and take the risk if you're
willing to stand up for what you believe in and if you're willing to have the courage to become the
best version of yourself i really believe that the world will unfold in front of you my guest today
an amazing author the one and only dregswell seymour he is a certified public accountant he is the
managing partner at hlb tc i he has served in that role for seven years he's a
business owner, a consultant, and an author of two books, one of which is the best-selling book,
Rise Up and Take Your Position, as well as his most recent book, which is a sequel called
Succeeding in Your Position.
Drexwell Seymour, thank you so much for being here today, my friend. How are you?
Well, I want to thank you again for having me on the show. I really, I don't take this at all
for granted. I'm happy for this opportunity. Thanks again.
Of course. I'm excited that you're here.
it's it's always interesting to me to get to speak with people who have found the courage to
take a chance on themselves it seems today in this world there's we're surrounded by so many
intelligent and beautiful and great people but so many so few people really take that next step
and becoming the best version of themselves and in your book you talk about what it takes to do that
but before we get into that maybe you could talk a little bit about how you've got to be
where you are today. Sure. So, well, I'm 53 years old now. And of course, I grew up here in the
Turks and Cacos Islands. Of course, during my time growing up, I, you know, I suffered from
inferiority complex and like who I am or how I looked. And then, of course, I came from a family
didn't have much. Like most people in islands, we didn't have much growing up in the opportunities
look so it look impossible. And somehow, I'm in 86, I got a scholarship through a generous offer
from a tourist, and I was able to go to college in Ohio, and I got my bachelor's degree,
and then I got my MBA in finance, and then I returned home, and my life started to turn around.
But even though my life's had to turn around, I still, in the back of my mind, I still didn't like
how I look, even though I achieve my academic quality.
I was still suffering because I was so conscious what people were saying about me.
And then a couple of years ago, I reached a point in my life where I realized that this was not going anywhere.
And it doesn't make any sense being worried about what people say, you know, I have to accept who I am.
And so I made it my mission, you know, to not stay where I am and to help others not to experience what I experience.
And so that's how my life.
and that's why I wrote the books,
and that's what I do with my YouTube channels,
just to provide inspiration, hope for other people.
Yeah, it's an interesting, it's an interesting thing.
It's in some ways all of our lives are a tragedy
until they become a success.
But why do you think, have you done some investigating
to figure out why you had that inferiority complex
or why people in general?
I don't think it's just you.
I think so many people go through life with limiting beliefs and they don't believe in themselves.
Is that something we're taught?
Is it something society shows us?
Or what do you think it is?
I think it's society.
I think society has established certain standards on what success looks like or what people should look like.
And if you are not in that category or you feel like you haven't fit that category, then you feel like the field.
you and you try to
and you just try to live up
to people, you try to please people because you're
trying to please people in society
and you're not even being yourself because you want to
be somebody, you're not. And so
the pressure came from society.
And so that's, and it caused me
to solve a variety complex because I
was not
I didn't fit the category
of what success
is or should be.
Yeah, it's a great point. Did you find that in
your in your journey to becoming who you are today that the people you surrounded yourself with
played both a negative part and a positive part?
Oh, absolutely.
I mean, the people definitely played a negative and positive.
I mean, the environment that you are in, the people you surround yourself, very, very critical
to what you become, especially in your early ages, no matter what people say.
as well, it's very important for people to be careful how they,
what they say to children,
because it can impact them for the rest of their lives.
And so, yes, the people that I was around it impacted me negatively and positively.
But I, unfortunately, I had more negative than positive,
so I believe the negative stories.
Yeah, it's interesting.
I'm glad you brought up the idea of language
and how we talk to the people around us that we love.
Sometimes we don't thoroughly understand how powerful our language is.
Not only our inner dialogue,
not only the words we say to ourselves inside our head,
but what we tell our kids,
what we tell our wives,
what we tell our husbands,
what we tell our friends or our brothers and our sisters.
That kind of language lasts a generation,
a last a lifetime.
It's powerful, right?
And that's my slogan I use.
I mean, death and life on the power of the tongue.
you know, that's in the Bible.
And that's what I use.
That's what I live by.
And I try to tell my kids the same thing, you know, and other people.
Maybe you can break that down a little bit.
Like death and life and the power of the tongue.
And those that love it shall eat from the fruit thereof.
Like that's such a beautiful quote.
And there's a lot around them.
Maybe you could talk a little bit about that.
So basically, you know, there's a, I think growing up we had this word, say,
what sticks and bones may break?
Remember that?
Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me.
Right.
Well, that's not true.
Words can help you.
Words can hurt you.
Words can give you life and words can kill you.
It may not kill you physically, but it will kill you mentally.
If you keep telling people they're not going to mind to anything or they're ugly or they're stupid or they're ignorant, they're going to grow up thinking that's who they are.
And if you keep telling someone, oh, you're great.
You're going to be somebody.
Then you're going to grow up thinking that.
And so that's what death and life are in.
You've given them life or you're giving them death.
And it's the power of the tongue, which is very, very powerful.
Which calms of your mouth is very, very, it's more powerful than the stones that people can direct you.
Yeah, I agree.
I think that the world is made of language.
And we can choose to see how difficult life is, or we can.
can choose to see how beautiful life is. And that means the struggles too. Every time we see a struggle
in our lives, we can look at it as an opportunity to become the very best version of ourselves.
Some people say that. And other people are like, oh, because this happened, I can't even go on
anymore. And it's just, it's a shift that happens in the way you see the world. And I, I believe that
when you start using your words in a way that is beneficial, then your life opens up. And that
That means more opportunity, more money.
And money is kind of a byproduct of living a better life, it seems to me.
But don't you think so?
Yes, definitely.
It is a byproduct.
So long as you go and do what you like the best, I personally believe, based on my experience, that money will come eventually.
Yeah.
So maybe you can take a moment to talk about what it was like to author your first book.
A lot of the people I talk to often say things like it's a, you know, it's, it's autobiographical in nature, or I felt like something was writing through me.
But I've found that each individual author usually has a sort of unique story about the way in which their first book came about.
And I was kind of hoping maybe you could share that experience with our audience.
Sure.
I'll be glad to.
So, so in addition to writing the books, what I've been doing, I think, for the past five years, I write weeks.
I write weekly articles.
I have a website, and I put articles every week,
and then I put in the local newspapers,
and I put it on Facebook.
And then as I continue to write,
I decided, you know what?
Because when I get the feedback from people,
how the writings inspire them,
I say, well, maybe I should, you know,
take some of this weekly writing and turn into a book.
And that's what I gave with the first book.
So some of the articles in the book,
Some of the chapters in the book came from my weekly articles.
So it didn't take me long to write the first book.
So I went back over some of the articles I wrote.
And what I did, I expanded on those articles in the chapters to meet the number of words I needed to get the book.
So that's how I came about it.
It wasn't hard at all with the book.
Because that's something I've been doing every for the past five years writing articles, even though I'm an accountant, but I write.
Yeah. The act of writing is powerful. It's sometimes I think it's your body giving your mind permission to act things out in the world. In some ways, writing is translating your vision into reality. And I know that reading some of the things that you've written, you love writing. You're good at it. It's fun for you. And it comes through. That's a great sign of someone who has really harnessed that skill. Maybe you can talk about how writing has changed.
your concept and ideas of the world?
Well, first of all, I mean, writing, it makes me,
it's like I'm in a different world when I'm writing.
I'm at peace.
It makes me feel good.
And what makes me even feel better is when my writing is able to inspire other people.
And even though when I write sometimes is about my personal stories,
but other people have similar.
It may not have the exact stories you have,
but their first one the same as you.
So it's like I'm going to different,
I just, I just enjoy it.
It just keep flowing.
I just, it's something that comes naturally.
So it's like a hobby for me now.
Because, you know, the job I do is very stressful.
So when I start, I mean, the writing is,
it's sort of like my escape where I could go and start writing
and I just take everything else off my mind.
I just focus on writing.
So it helps me to relax.
it helps me to calm on
and helps me to reduce my stress
and so that's how writing helps me.
Yeah, it sounds interesting like
I'm hearing a lot of balance in there
like on some level, right?
Having this MBA and trying to be like
in trying to work with money and stress
and people's problems and their kid
everything is boiling on you and you're like, okay,
let me just balance out with some writing over here.
That's what it is.
It's beautiful, yeah.
You know, there seems to be some sort of similar barriers that affect us all.
And I've listened to quite a few of the YouTube videos that you've had.
And I've noticed that one thing that seems to be something that people share is this fear of failure.
What do you think that is?
Oh, yeah.
I think that's a common barrier.
We're just afraid.
Because, again, I believe that people are.
afraid of failure because we're so conscious of what people think about us and what people will say
about us. Yeah. I mean, even though we say we're not living our lives to please people,
subconsciously we are. And so we don't want to fail and people laugh at us and say, oh, I knew
that business. And so that's the problem. We should be focusing on our personal goals,
but we are not really doing it. We're focusing on what will happen. What will people say if it
doesn't work out. And that should not be a priority. In fact, we should never do something.
Thinking is not going to work out. We should always do something believing it's going to be
successful, especially know that is what you're called to do. Now, if you experience failure,
that's fine, but you must not give up. So that's part of the problem. We are living our lives
to please people. We're comparing ourselves to other people. And so we have this barrier of this fear of
failure. Yeah, it's well said. You know,
Right. In some ways, I think we have it backwards.
Like, it almost seems like a perverse idea of community.
Like, we want to please everybody.
And like, that's our way of being in community with people.
But it's very difficult to please everybody and become authentic.
Because when you try to please everybody, you're, you are trying to fit yourself into a mold that you think everybody would like.
Instead of being the person that people would enjoy being around,
because that's who you are.
It's an interesting idea that culture molds us in a way, right?
It's crazy to think about.
That's really good, actually.
I like that.
I really like that.
Trying to please everybody.
You have to be authentic.
I like that.
Yeah.
I think it's nice.
I think it's nice.
So, you know, there's another idea that I think about that kind of fits this particular idea of failure.
And I think it's the negative self-image.
And maybe you spoke a little bit about that growing up,
how maybe this image of who we are is the unrealized dreams of our parents putting that on us,
you know, or this fear of failure putting that on us.
How does one go about changing a negative self-image?
That is, you know, that is very, very hard to do.
It takes a very long time.
I think the only way to do, not the only way,
The best way to change that image is to recognize that there's something special about you,
to recognize that you are a gift from God, to recognize that you're not a mistake,
and to recognize that you are very important, that nobody is better than you.
The thing is we have created class structure in our societies.
You know, you got the VIPs, you got, you know, the ordinary people.
everybody in my opinion is important.
And when you recognize that you are just as important as anybody else,
whether you're a celebrity, whether you're not a celebrity,
I think that's the first step.
And when you recognize that,
then that will help you to move away from that negative self-image of yourself.
Yeah, that's really well said.
And it's tough to do for all of us, right?
You know, sometimes I think of the,
I read a book a while back.
It was called Games People Play.
Games People Play.
Yeah, it's called Games People Play.
And I think it was by Andrew Carnegie.
It's an older book.
Okay.
And it really lays out the ideas of relationships.
And in that book, Games People Play, what he says is, in any time you sit down with somebody,
you begin playing a role.
Like if I sit down with a financial advisor and I go to his office, if I come to your office,
I have given you the authority to tell me what to do.
However, it's very easy to change that role.
If I'm sitting down with you and your office,
we're talking about money and you're asking me questions,
but then I switch the role and I say,
wait a minute, Mr. Drexwell, Mr. Seymour,
I think that these are going to happen and I want things to happen this way.
All of a sudden, I've taken the authority back
and now I'm the authority figure.
And so it's important for people to understand in their lives,
understand which role you're playing.
Understand the game you're playing and just switch it.
You can try it in a conversation with a loved one.
You can try it in a conversation at school.
You can try it in a conversation with a coworker.
But once you begin to understand, there's a structure for communication,
then you can just change your position.
And it'll change the way people look at you.
It's a fundamental shift.
It's really fascinating to think about.
I love that.
I love it.
That is so true.
Yeah. I think you probably noticed quite a bit of social structures in the way to navigate to them.
It's not easy to get up and speak in front of people. Maybe you could talk about your journey there.
Like, how did you, how, when did that start happening? When did you all of a sudden, like, you know what, I need to not only inspire people, but now I need to get up and promote this book.
Now I need to go out and speak in front of crowds. Now I need to really become the authentic leader that I'm speaking about. Was there a transition there?
You know, after writing, I think about a year, and I started to build confidence in myself.
And then once I became confident in myself, I went from one extreme to the next.
I felt so confident, I felt like I could speak to anybody.
And so I'm no longer, you know, restrained and limited to my thinking because before I was a thing, oh, I can't do this.
And I think we have to build confidence in ourselves.
And that's how I was able to be able to speak in front of an audience through confidence building.
And it takes a lot of practice.
It takes a lot of practice.
And it takes a lot of believing in yourself.
You know, so that's what I was able to do it.
What advice would you give to someone who is trying to get out of their comfort zone,
trying to learn how to, you know, move on to that next level?
What advice would you give to somebody?
Well, first of all, I'll tell them that if they are too comfortable,
then, you know, that's not good.
They need to be uncomfortable, I believe, to get to that place of your destination.
And so I would, my advice would be, if you're too comfortable,
you need to find a way to get out of that comfort zone.
And one way to do so is to establish a.
goals because sometimes people don't know where they're going.
And so they remain in the comfort zone.
But if you establish goals and you have a time frame or timeline, then that is how you
be able to get out of your comfort zone because if you just remain doing the same thing
over and over, you get the same results.
You're not doing, you don't know where you're going.
So the best thing to do, establish goals, take the risk, gather your comfort zones,
and pursue your goals.
I think that's what we need to do.
Yeah, I love the idea of taking the risk.
And you know what?
I recently listened to a story where you left a good life.
Like you had things that were really good.
But something inside of you was like, I could be better.
Maybe you can share that story and the thoughts that were going on inside you.
When you were an employee for a great company and you were doing well, you know, most people stay there.
Most people say, okay, this is it.
I'm going to stay here.
I've got this nice income coming in now.
And I've got these particular things taken care of.
What was going on inside your mind?
And what were the steps that you took to leave there?
And why did you do it?
Yeah, that's a good question.
So I think most of us, especially the CEO of a company, you know, you get a good bonus, you get shares, you get company vehicle, you get all these benefits.
And then, but you find yourself, you are working all of these hours at night, not spending time with your family.
and then your bosses are getting all these huge bonuses
and millions of dollars.
And you're saying, wait a minute,
I'm working for these individuals.
This doesn't make any sense.
And so the company had every year
of just all these, or every two years,
they had these packages where you could do a volunteer separation.
And so the package was very, very good.
And so I took the package and I took the risk.
and then I set up my business.
And when I look back, I say, man, I wish I had done this before
because I was so comfortable and I didn't want to take the risk.
And so when I realized what was happening in my life,
I work in all these hours, I was 11, 12 o'clock at night.
I said I rather work for myself than to continue working
like this with someone else.
And then you're under a lot of pressure from the board to meet certain targets.
if you don't meet these targets, you're under more pressure,
and I say it's not worth it.
And so that was the driving point for me to move on my own.
And it worked out well for me.
I mean, if I knew what I knew now,
I would have laughed a long time ago.
But then, I guess it's a process I had to go through.
Yeah, that's well said.
Sometimes I think that it's all this process.
I look at it like this sometimes,
and I'm curious to get your thoughts.
Sometimes it seems to me the world we live in,
is like a martial arts studio.
And at any point in time,
when you're ready to take the next level,
the master is right there.
You can go and you can do your cata
or you can go and perform the test whenever you want.
But you have to be ready to do it
and it has to be your idea
and you have to go and perform.
I've had enough of this.
I'm at this level.
I see this.
And that's what really builds up that momentum inside of you.
It doesn't matter if you're a CEO,
a truck driver,
a janitor, a lawyer, a doctor, a firefighter.
It doesn't matter what you do.
What matters is that you come to a point in your life
where you've outgrown these previous ideas.
And you step up and you say, I am going to do it now.
I'm going to take this chance.
I'm going to move out on my own because I believe in myself.
These people up here are no better than me.
I know what they're doing.
I'm capable of it.
And I have a good idea.
Like, that's so inspirational, man.
I love hearing stories like that.
man. It's such a beautiful time and I'm thankful for it.
You're spot on. Yes.
Okay, so but it's not easy, right?
Like, it's really powerful to make that step and you feel great about it.
You're nervous, you're scared.
Then you leave the place and then all of a sudden there you are.
You get this whole thing to start.
Like, what is that?
Yeah.
It's not easy.
But the good thing, what I would encourage you to do, you know, wherever you are,
is to always do your best.
Yes.
And to always, you know, develop relationships with people no matter where you are.
And to treat people well because you don't know, you never know the future.
And because of my, my attitude and my relationship with people, when I was able, when I established
my company, I have people coming to me.
I didn't even have to like, the first couple months was rough.
But after a while, people stopped coming to me.
they became my clients
and because they knew me
and because of my reputation
and my former job
and I treated them
and I'm a man of integrity
they came to me
and so I think that's important
and people will come to you
even though you should continue
to market your business
but some people will always come to you as well
because they know you are
you develop yourself
you develop a brand
you develop your name
and so that that was a good thing for me
if I had a bad attitude
and, you know,
and then have the relationship.
And it wouldn't be the same
but because of my relationship with people
and the networking I developed,
that helped me a lot to propel to who I am today.
I love it.
It brings up this other idea that, you know,
I think sometimes, like, we can go to school
and we can learn,
and we can read things and we can learn,
but there's some things that can only develop inside of you.
And I think it's that pressure.
I think it's having to go to that job for 20 years or 25 years and not be with your family and come home and everybody's sleeping or you realize you're not even having good conversations with your kids and they're learning these things at school, but you're their dad, you know, and like it's that, it's all that pressure that builds up inside of you that explodes you into this next level of becoming the best authentic version of yourself. And it's necessary. What do you, what do you think about that?
process of how is that process in your opinion tied with spirituality seems like a spiritual process to me
it is it is a spiritual process i mean of course a lot of things we go through you go to college
go to university a lot of things you go through in life you know you don't learn these things
in university in college you learn all these things on um um on the job or or
in your, you know, your household, your home, or in the community.
And, you know, even with God, you know, he said, you know, kind of joy, you know,
when you go through, you know, suffering and stuff like that.
And so we'll experience all these different things in life.
And I know that, you know, everything that lasts forever, what we're going to choose temporary.
So all this is part of our spiritual, I mean, connection.
And some things you have to go through.
in order to get where you should go to.
And so I, and I know sometimes, you know, we don't understand,
but sometimes not allow these things that happen to make us stronger,
to appreciate and to see where he's taking us.
And so it's a big connection.
Yeah, it is.
I love the way you said that because all of us find ourselves sometimes lacking in faith
or asking that question, hey, why is this?
happening to me. It's something you can't even explain. You know, but you're trying to find a
reason. Can you, do you have a story you can share where you found yourself in a time of crisis
like that? Well, I mean, at my job, I mean, my former job, like, everything was going like
wrong for a period of time. But first of all, when I first took over, it was a monopoly company. We
didn't have any competition.
And then the government, it was a, it was a communications company and the government decided
to liberalize the market. And so, you know, we end up having competition. Of course, we
end up losing, you know, we end up losing a lot of market this year. And, and then on top of that,
you know, a network went down for like $40. And I said, oh my God, why is this happening
to me? Why? I felt, I took a.
And also, I didn't sleep at night.
I didn't sleep at night.
And so everything like it was going wrong for me.
And then, you know, after a while, I say, you know what?
I can't do anything about this.
So I just, I just prayed and I just say, God, you know, help me out.
Help me out.
And then, you know, after a while, things turn around.
And I realized that some of these things that happened was beyond our control.
The competition was good because sometimes when you,
don't have competition, you don't know who you're measuring off against.
And so I was glad the competition came in the end because it put pressure on us to provide
better customer service.
And you have to also have to fight to maintain your customers.
But it worked out in the end for all of us.
And we were able to maintain our market share 50-50 before I left.
And so it worked out good.
It was hard on us, but eventually worked out in our favor.
I love the idea of surrender, not surrender and running away from something, but surrendering to a power that's greater than you.
And you find yourself in a situation where you can't change the variables.
You can do two things.
You can pound your head against the wall and ask questions that don't make any sense.
Like, why is it happening to me?
This always happens to me.
You can go down that road.
And a lot of people do.
I know I have traveled that road many times.
but there's a sweet comfort that comes from the power of surrender and faith
and giving it up to a situation like, okay, let me just sit with this.
Let me just breathe it all in.
Okay, I can't change that.
That sucks.
That happened.
That guy, I never liked them anyway.
You know, and you start thinking.
You know what I mean?
And so I think that there's something to be said about direction at that.
point in time. I think that that's when we find our direction. Sometimes you have to get lost
in a storm in order to really come out of it and be like, okay, now I know what to do. Now I'm,
thankful for this because now I know what it's like to go through a crisis. And I realize I came
out of it doing okay. I still got my family's here. I got a house. I got a roof over my head. I got
food in the fridge. Things are looking up. Yes. Yes. That's true. Absolutely.
So at this point in time, what was it like during that situation to reconnect with your family?
Because your family is a huge part of your life.
And in some, I think we probably would both agree that it's probably the most important part of our life is the people that that surround us, that we take care of, that look up to us, that need us.
And as men, that's an important role for us.
Was it, how was that transition for you as a father and as a man changing from that?
Because that, that had to be something you thought about when you left that job.
Like, okay, how, I'm responsible for my family.
I'm going to leave this job and have any income coming in for a while.
You know, even though I have this package, I'm still sure that it was on your mind.
Like, okay, is this the right thing to do?
How did you deal with that particular stress?
Well, I was, be honest with you, I was, I was comfortable because.
Okay.
Good.
The package I got, right?
It was enough to last me for two years if I didn't have a job.
Okay.
And so I was very comfortable with that.
And I didn't even use up the money like that.
So what I did when I started the business, because it was still at first.
Right.
I paid myself every month from the package as if I was still working for the company.
And so all that I considered before I even took the package with my family.
and so I was comfortable
it was not a major factor to me
with my family initially
because I knew what I was getting
and then I made that decision to accept it
So what in your opinion
What advice would you give to somebody
Who finds themselves in a position
Where they have a great idea and they believe in themselves
But maybe they're afraid
What advice would you give to someone like that?
I really think that, a good question,
I really think that they should find someone to talk to,
someone who's going to be positive to them to because,
not anybody, because sometimes people discourage you,
especially if your advice, especially what you're thinking about is not traditional.
They need to find someone or go on Google and Google, do some research.
But I think the best thing to those talks,
to someone who went through something similar, find someone, even they haven't gone through it,
but just talk to someone who will encourage you or who will be like your support or your backup
and who will encourage you all along the way. I think that's the key. And if you could find
someone who can encourage you, I mean, you could launch out into that project or that business
or that mission that you want to do. I think that's the key. Talk to somebody.
Yeah, I agree. I think that,
Anybody who finds themselves wanting more in life, you have to nurture it, whether it's an idea or a thought, just blow on those embers and it will become a flame.
And the more you listen to that little voice inside of you, the louder the voice gets and the more, not only you hear it, but I think when you have an idea that you truly care about, I think it shines through you and it attracts people to you in a way that it wouldn't before, right?
Absolutely.
I agree with that.
sure yeah it's i'm hopeful i'm hopeful that we continue to see more people
taking chances because i i know how difficult it is to take a chance and you know we spoke a little
bit about the fear of failure and self-limiting beliefs and lack of lack of direction you know
maybe one thing we haven't spoke upon that we could talk about is resistance to change sometimes
people just don't want to change because they're comfortable.
Yeah.
I mean, that is true.
People don't want to change, but I tell you,
the world is the only thing that doesn't change,
in my opinion is the Bible.
Everything else is changing.
The world is changing.
You see how technology has changed from Enviroval little boys.
Things have changed significantly,
and so we have to go with the times.
And we have, and we came out there.
Because otherwise, we're going to be left behind.
It's important for us to incorporate the changes in our lives with our goals.
And we have to realize that things are changing every day.
And we have to respond to those changes.
If you keep resisting change, you're going to be resisting an opportunity for growth.
You're going to be resisting an opportunity for expansion.
You're going to be risking an opportunity to do what you are called to do and to overcome it.
you need to go with the change and accept the changes and float.
Yeah, it's the ideas of the scriptures that came before us and the,
the testaments to meaning in there.
Is there a certain, I'm sure that you have many scriptures or ideas that you look at in the Bible
and you can turn to.
But is there one that you turn to all the time that has kind of been something that's been
the wind underneath your wings?
Hmm, I mean, that's a good one now.
Let me think about that.
You know, the one thing I, every day I get up because, you know, I used to lack confidence.
But one thing that I focus on is that I could do all things through Christ that strengthens me.
And I believe that I can do it.
I think one of the things that keep us behind is when we believe we cannot do anything,
when we believe that things look impossible.
I believe that this can't be done.
And so the scripture that I really like that I use in my business that I use in my family life
is that I, in my personal life, that I could do all things.
It doesn't matter who I am.
It doesn't matter who you are.
You could do all things.
And you have to believe that.
Yeah.
The one thing that I, on a similar note that I think about is when times get tough,
If I don't believe in myself, why would anybody else believe in me?
If I'm not the person who has the most fire,
and if I can't put forth a flame,
how am I going to keep you warm?
Like, I must believe when no one else will believe.
And if I can do that, then I can help,
I can inspire others to believe in themselves.
And that's where the test comes in.
I think that whether, you know,
whether you, some people call God Jesus or Muhammad or Buddha or something
I believe we come into this world instead of out of it.
But regardless of where you find your faith, it's imperative that you have that faith in
you because the time are going to get tough.
It will be a challenge.
And one thing I know from reading all the different scriptures is that it's a test.
It's going to get really, really hard.
You're going to get beaten down.
And when you do get beaten down, I hope people will remember.
Remember this.
Anybody can get beaten down.
But a true champion, a true person who loves life always gets up and they keep moving forward, right?
Yeah.
That's it.
That's my book.
Rise up.
Rise up.
Rise up.
Here's the title of the book, right?
Spoken like a true fighter.
Is there a specific part in your first book that you like the most, a chapter?
a chapter, an article, or
was there a certain area that you liked most in the first book?
I think I like the chapter I like,
I think it was on failures, opportunities.
I really like that because, you know,
we're surrounded by failures.
Yeah.
It's failures, people marriages are being failed,
are getting relationships, businesses.
Your children appear to be a failure to be where they're not,
but as all appears.
To me,
whatever failure that you experience,
I think we should look at it as
what can I learn from this?
What is the opportunity of this?
So that was my favorite chapter in the book,
that failures are opportunities.
Too many times we look at failures as negative,
even though it may be negative at that time.
But I always believe that something good comes out of something,
whether it's a failure or not,
but something good comes out of it.
So that's my favorite chapter
to encourage people to look at failures as opportunities.
I love it.
It's really well said.
When you say that,
it brings up this idea of at some point in time in our lives,
we all collectively decided that failure is a bad thing.
Yeah.
But you know, we all have, you and I both have kids.
And you know what?
We never told our kids they were a,
failure when they couldn't walk. They're going to keep trying to walk until they can walk.
You know, we never told them they're a failure when they can pry their shoe.
You're going to, and you're going to learn that tire shoe. It might take five years,
but you're going to figure it out.
Right. That's right. Somewhere along the line, Drexwell, we decide, okay, now it's failure.
But it's never failure. It's always learning. It takes a long time to learn these things.
But, you know, it's just, it's so mind-blowing to me that, like, we haven't figured out by age five.
and then we're just like, okay, now it's a failure.
No, it's not.
It's always a learning process.
That's right.
Yeah, I love it.
That's right.
Could you imagine what the world would do?
Yeah, right?
Can you imagine what the world would be like if we're like, well, little George over here, he can't walk.
You know, he tried for a year and he just can't do it.
That would be so ridiculous.
It would be.
Right?
And it's interesting because at that point in time, children usually have a
structure behind them of people that believe in them, that encourage them, that continue to help
them. And maybe that's where failure comes in is as, as that scaffolding of support falls away,
they no longer have people around them to encourage them to be like, hey, you're just learning.
You're still learning. And sometimes the world forces that on us, but it's, it's an interesting
thought, right? That makes sense, actually. Yeah. Yeah. I'm so excited. It's so fun to get to
bounce ideas off people.
And, you know, what was it like after writing your first book to all of a sudden,
so you write the book, you publish it?
And then son of a gun, bestselling author in a few categories.
That's got to be an amazing feeling.
It was, it was incredible.
It was, I felt proud.
I felt proud.
I couldn't believe that was me.
You know, it was a great feeling.
It was unsubscribeable.
It really was a great feeling.
What did it feel like?
I wonder.
I hope you can share this.
I wonder what it was like for your wife and your kids to see you write the book
and then to see the bestselling author tag you put on it.
That had like the look in your kids and wife's eyes had to be pretty fulfilling as well.
Oh, yes.
You know, our family, you know, we're very close and, you know, whatever.
When I'm happy, they're happy.
When I'm sad, they're sad.
And so it was, they were equally, I mean, aesthetic as I was, you know,
when I got the news about the best seller.
Very, very much.
Of course, the whole community, you know, I was small.
Yeah.
So, you know, everything, everybody's excited about that, you know.
Yeah.
On some level, when somebody wins in the community, you pave the way for everybody to win.
Now your kids can look at it.
The community can look at it and be like, hey, he did it.
Let's go talk to him and see how we did it.
And now, you have an obligation.
You know, yeah, you can do.
I did it.
You can do it.
Let me show you how.
That's beautiful.
And there are right now, there are a lot of people now.
I'm not saying it's because of me,
but there are a lot of people now writing a lot of books in Turks and Caicos.
There's a bunch of orders now popping up, you know.
That's how really wealthy communities begin to do.
That's how a community begins to be known for something.
Like there's no reason why the community you're in
can't be one of the most creative enclaves for authors and artistic people in the next 10 years.
Like, that's how trends start, right?
Hey, this guy did it.
Now, let's do it.
You know, like, it happens in, it happens in trades and an artwork all the time.
And if you can just blow on that ember, you know, it's, it becomes dynasties like that.
And that's pretty exciting to think about.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, it is.
Yeah.
I might have to come down there and do some writing, man.
I might have to come down there and get inspired.
So definitely, let me know.
I'll hook you up with accommodations.
Just let me know.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
It's, what is it like for a young person growing up where you're at right now?
Are there a lot of opportunities there or what's it like?
Well, there are a lot of job opportunities.
Of course, we have a community college here, but a lot of people still prefer to go overseas for studies.
Of course, we, you know, we are still a UK colony.
or the call it's overseas territory.
And so we have the privilege of being a UK citizen.
And so a lot of young people are going to the UK for for tertiary education.
There are not a lot of activities for young people to do.
We don't have any shopping malls, nothing like that.
But there are a lot of job opportunities for people because our country is growing at such a rapid rate.
and there are not many people from the Turks and gate.
So we have to recruit people from overseas.
So that opportunity is definitely there for the young people.
And even with the lack of activities,
I think that's an opportunity for some people to get into
and open a business and provide those opportunities.
But sometimes they're on board.
There's nothing to do.
But that's an opportunity right there to provide, like,
a bowling alley or to provide a movie theater.
That's something someone can do to that in itself is an opportunity.
But I personally think there's a lot of opportunities here in the Turks and Cakesas
we are growing.
There are things we don't have that we should have.
And that's when an opportunity comes in.
We just have to buy it.
It's well said.
Sometimes the lack of the lack of things around is freedom.
It's the ability to create a new industry.
It's the ability to reimagine something.
that's not there yet.
And like, that's hard to do when there's a centralized area.
It's hard to do when there's already infrastructure for something.
Exactly.
Exactly.
You can be the first to market.
You can be a pioneer.
You can be the person that creates something for everybody else to enjoy.
It's, it's awesome to see it.
And in some levels, like a lot of levels, it takes inspiration to create the next generation, right?
It does.
Yes.
It does.
it's amazing to me so if we move on to the second book the second book is a is a sequel to the first
book it's succeeding after rising up maybe you can talk a little bit about the second book sure so
you know after i finish the first book i was thinking you know okay i'm encouraging to rise up
and take the position but when they take their position what if they're not successful
And so, you know, because, you know, they may get up and don't do anything afterwards.
And so the second book was really to provide 10 tips on how they could succeed in their,
in their position.
Of course, there are many, many ways.
But these are my top 10 that I shared in the book to encourage people so that they could be successful
in whatever position they are in, whether their role is a husband, role is a husband, role
as a wife, a pastor, a business person, a politician, a student.
These 10 tips, I believe, can help you.
So as we're talking about this, and I'm thinking about the structure and the way in which you've
written the books, do you think that a lot of what you've written is autobiographical in nature?
It seems to me like rising up and taking action is almost a direct reflection of the
decisions you've made in your life to become who you are.
And then there's this second book about succeeding where you are in some level.
Like I feel like I'm watching the Drexwell Seymour movie.
You're probably right.
You're probably right.
I never thought about the autobiopharpa, but you're right.
It is a reflection of that.
It is.
You're absolutely right.
And by the way, I did, I do have a short film out as well.
I do have a short film.
What's the name of the film?
It's Rise Up.
Nobody's better than you.
It's how I grew up and stuff like that, and I made it.
It's, maybe you could talk about the,
so it's so multi-dimensional to me,
because on one level, I can see that autobiographical nature.
But as I'm even talking about that, I'm curious,
like, what are you learning?
Like, we've talked a little bit about what happens when you write things down.
But what was it like to make a short film
and a movie about it?
Like that seems like it's a whole other way of learning things.
I will tell you, it was very, very emotional for me.
It was very emotional because it brought back a lot of memories that I thought I had gotten over.
And then when the film was produced and then we watched the film, it became emotional.
So that was a hard part for me.
But I'm glad I did the film because.
It's there and people can watch it and hopefully help them, you know, in their, in their part, in their Johnny.
But it was a good, I'm glad I did it.
I had people acting as Drexel in the movie, the young Drexel, the older Drexel and all that.
So it was, it was great doing it.
It was great, I mean, doing the film.
In the movie, are you thinking, it would be an interesting exercise and imagination if you were
to make a movie about the future,
like the future Drexwell.
Like, if you were to imagine what he would look like,
what do you think he would look like?
Wow.
You know what?
I'll probably look like someone that's going around the world,
being a motivational speaker.
I think that's the future of me looking like
and just going around encouraging people,
speaking into the lives of people
and making them realize.
that they are somebody
I can ask the future drugs
what looks like.
That's beautiful.
I can already see it myself.
It's a cool thing.
You know, as someone who has
faced some similar demons
in a way, I guess I would say.
One thing I've learned about facing the
limiting beliefs that I had
was that they weren't necessarily mine.
And even though my dad and mom had them,
they weren't necessarily theirs,
but it's weird to look at the pattern of those beliefs
all the way through as far as you can go back
and you realize like, it's kind of generational, you know,
and it's interesting.
And just being aware of this idea of generational trauma
or generational ideas,
it really allows you to step outside of your,
self and face it. Have you found that to be similar? It's very much similar. And you know,
after it's a generation thing. Yeah. Because even right now with, you know, our only daughter,
we have one daughter and four sons. And she's going through, she's facing that demon that I've
been facing that demon of depression and yeah and those self-esteem. I so know what a repeat that's
going on, you know? And yeah. And so it's, it's like, it's, unless you know,
you know deal with it it's going to pass from generation to generation and you didn't cost it
it was it was passed from generation to generation but you could stop it by confronting it and
and getting delivered from it yeah i've heard some interesting people talk about purging for their
family and i didn't know and understand that term until i spoke to someone about it and it's
basically the same idea of facing the general
generational problems. Because at some point, once you fix it, the next generation can move on from it.
But it's almost like these chains that bind us. And if we don't stand up and be like, boom, no more.
I'm done. I don't care about what happened. I am going to be better. And I don't care whose fault it is.
I'm changing. And I'm doing it now. Like that, it gives me goosebumps to think about. But that is exactly the change that's needed to see for your sons and your daughters to not have to face it anymore.
And as moms and as dads, it's the best and biggest and greatest thing we can do for the next generation is take up that heavy load.
And it doesn't need to be a monetary load.
It's more likely going to be a characteristic flaw that we have in us.
If you can begin working on that, your family will thank you for generations, I think.
And I, right.
Yeah, you're right.
Yeah.
Yes.
What? Did your parents go and see? First off, are your parents still alive? And did your family, besides your nuclear family, your wife and your kids, did your cousins and everybody see this movie? What do they think about what's going on in your life?
Well, my parents, my dad died when I was 28.
And I was 25 years ago.
My mom died when I was 40.
She lived with me for five years.
She had a stroke.
She died.
But the movie was well received.
Because I launched a movie the same night I launched my book.
Yeah, smart.
Yeah.
So we have about 250 people in attendance.
And so it was people didn't know.
that I didn't realize what I went through what I went through.
And so some of them I was very, very surprised because I portrayed such an outward and confident spirit.
They didn't know, you know, so they were very shocked.
Yeah.
But it was, it was well, it was well received.
Even my own siblings didn't know I went through that because I never, I kept everything to
myself. But it was good. It was, it was, it was, the words was inspiring.
everybody came back to it was inspiring.
Yeah, it's incredibly inspiring.
And sometimes we don't even know the people we inspire.
Just by getting up and facing the things that are difficult,
by getting up and becoming the best version of ourselves,
we could inspire a child and never even know about it.
We could inspire a family member and not even know about it.
But people that are watching.
You know, it's a good mantra that people should carry with them
when they go out under their day is that,
hey people are watching be your best put on a show you know get out there and and be the best version
of yourself because the world needs you man and i wish more people would embrace that yes i wish so too
well people need to well i think that i think that the books that you have put out Drexwell are
awesome i haven't seen the movie yet but i'm going to check it out as soon as we're done here and
i think that your commitment to discipline to writing articles for people to going out to
out and speaking in front of people to overcoming challenges is it's a it's a it's a the siren song of
the earth singing to people out there to be inspired and i'm really thankful for it man it's
really inspiring to see and i'm i but maybe i should let you finish up here with what first off
where can people find you what do you have coming up and what are you excited about i think i lost i'm
here for a minute that's okay he'll be right back i believe
It's an inspiring book.
The two books are called Rise Up and Take Action.
And the second book is called Success.
And the, let me see if I can get it back right here.
It's, I don't know.
I believe that all of us have an opportunity in front of us.
I believe that in this world we live in today, that you have a few choices to make.
You can live a life that's good.
You can go out there and do what you're told to do,
and you can go out there and go along to get along.
But if you're willing to take the risk,
if you're willing to go out there and stand up for what you believe in,
then I think you can become a more fulfilling, authentic version of yourself.
And I think that you owe it to yourself.
I think you owe it to the people around you.
I think you owe it to the world in some ways.
you can begin seeing the world as a manifestation of your dreams
if you can begin to see the world
as a place that you can
paint a beautiful canvas on
or that you can interact with
I think you can begin to see the world in a way that is different out there
I lost you right there for a minute Drexville
yeah I'm on my computer died and I didn't realize that
sorry about that no minor it's okay it happens
it happens all kinds of times to me but it
I was just talking to the audience and telling them that, you know, what are, maybe what's a good philosophy that you see the world with?
Maybe we can end on on some words of wisdom that help you get through difficult times.
Or what do you think?
Well, I think we need to, first of all, I believe that we need to stop, I always, that we need to stop comparing ourselves with people.
we need to be prepared.
A lot of times we just live our lives each day as if that's it.
You know, we need to be prepared.
That involves, you know, planning.
That involves setting goals.
And I believe that's what we need to focus on, having goals and stop comparing yourself
to other people.
And to believe, you know, believe in yourself.
I mean, too many times, you know, you believe you have something to happen and someone else's
courage you believe it's not going to work.
Just believe in yourself.
And that's one of the tips I have in my book is to believe in order to be successful.
Yeah, it's well said.
And another point that I like that I heard you talking about recently was, you know, the idea
that your ideas are given to you.
And if you believe in your ideas, other people will believe in them.
And sometimes if you don't, it passes you by.
and someone else has that idea.
And then you get a little resentful, right?
Yeah.
Yep.
That's right.
Well, this has been an amazing conversation.
But where can people, like, what can you, before we go, can you give us the names of the books where they're sold out?
I'm going to put the links in the show notes.
But I just wanted to throw it back to you.
And you can give us the name of the books and maybe tell us where people can find you and what you have coming up.
Sure.
So the two books on out.
Amazon. The first one is called Rise Up and Take Your Position. You'll just type that in on my name.
And the second book is succeeding in your position. I also have a website, www.
Trackswell, Seymour.com. There are all my articles. And then I have a YouTube channel.
Every week I put a story out, inspiring people. I like to have you as a guest one day on my show.
I would love to.
And so that's, yes.
Perfect.
That's basically it.
Okay.
Well, hang on one second.
Drexwell, I'm going to hang up with the people, but I wanted to talk to you briefly
afterwards.
And ladies and gentlemen, go to the show notes.
Check out Drexwell's books.
They're on Amazon.
They're great reads.
You'll love them.
You'll walk away, feeling better about yourself and your environment and you want to
give your family a big hug.
So check out his books.
Listen to his YouTube channel.
Check out his weekly writings.
He's a really inspiring person.
And I think that we could all use inspiration in our lives.
So that's all we got for today.
Aloha.
