TrueLife - Haleigh Overseth- The Adventures of Abernathy Franklin

Episode Date: January 21, 2024

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It's so amazing to me. Haley, Overseth, a writer, podcast, producer, editor, social media, lover of life's mysteries. Oh, yes. I can just keep going on and on. How's it going today? How you doing? I am doing so well. I am so very thrilled to be here with you.

I do appreciate you having me here. This is very exciting for me. You know, like we were talking about just before we started, I'm experiencing a lot of abundance in people and energy and just meet and wonderful people like yourself. And I'm just so very excited that the universe brought us together. I am too. Let's talk about abundance for a minute because sometimes in my life,

you know, sometimes in my life, like I really feel so fortunate and so lucky. But then sometimes I look around and I'm like, how come my bank account's empty? What is this abundance all about? Like, what do you do? you ever find like that sort of like you're at that crossroads like you have so much in your life you have all these relationships and you're doing this thing you love but somehow abundance doesn't match up with what society is to tell you abundance is like what that is 100% true you know society tells us you have to be able to quantify with the the house you have and the car you have and how much stuff you have and yes we did incarnate into this human existence to experience the material world and all the great things that it has to offer of course we did but you have have to balance that with energy and recognizing the abundance of, again, just the abundance of excitement that you have. Like, I am so excited about the things I'm working on and I'm having so much fun

meeting all the people and meeting and being able to, you know, collaborate with creative people and people who are in these realms of exploring human consciousness and what's possible. And, you know, it's really important for us to be able to be in a space where we can look at that and say, that truly is abundance. And I really am experiencing so much of, the wonderful things that life has to offer. And, you know, the bank account stuff, it'll follow to some extent. But I do also believe that we're kind of shifting in society to a space where, you know, maybe currency in general just doesn't really serve us anymore, you know.

And I'm not going to sit here and say that I have the answers to how do you shift out of that since it's been the way that we operate for so long. But I am really excited to think about things like, you know, the younger generations of people who were born into a society where they have the internet and information in their hands as a fact of their existence. You know, the sort of institutional structures of civilization that they could sort of recreate and replace these old systems, I'm excited to see what they're going to do. So, you know, when I think, I think abundance, there's an abundance of possibilities that I think we have to learn to be excited about. I love it. It's really well said.

It brings up this idea of currency. I'm glad you said that because I think that relationships are like the new currency. And you spoke a little bit about all these people you're meeting and the Internet and your relationship, not only to people, but your relationship to doing things you love. Like you've written multiple books. You have a podcast network. You're always creating stuff. Maybe you could speak to this idea of relationships as currency. It is currency because it's co-creas.

creative energy, right? Everything in our existence is energy and even quantum physics agrees with this. You know, as much as people might sometimes look at, oh, spirituality and energy work and that kind of thing is maybe woo-y-woo or something that they can't quite get their mind around, right? Like, on a scientific level, it is absolutely true. Like, we're all just a bunch of electromagnetic photons vibrating at different frequencies, you know? Like we are. At a base level, we're all just quantum stuff floating around. We think we're so solid, but we're not. You know, so again, it's understanding that energy is your true abundance and, and that excitement and the passion and the love that you feel when you're interacting with people that you really

enjoy interacting with, being able to have these conversations that I find so interesting, you know, being able to be in that energetic space of what really lights you up. There's, you know, is there a better abundance than that? You know, if I had a big pile of money fall on me right now, would it feel as good as it feels just to interact with people? You know, we think that it would, but really it's not. It's sort of a permission slip that we give ourselves that if you have enough money, then you can, you know, really explore an adventure in those energetic spaces. If you have that financial freedom, but it's like, no, you can do it right now.

And you can just watch the universe line things up so that you have more opportunities to do it because it will. if you just, you know, stay in that energetic space. Yeah, it's really well said. It seems for so long, at least for me, I'm like, I'm almost 50. And so I feel like the way I was conditioned by society is to always have that dream, like, just out of place, that carrots hanging on that stick, like just right up above you. Then you're always chasing it. But at a certain point in life, I think you get to this idea of like, wait a minute, I don't need to chase that because I already have everything. I'm able to create some cool things. I have my wife and my daughter in my life and they love me.

It's beautiful. They're like, cool books. I'm talking to cool people. So if there's one thing I could tell people listening to this right now is that like just stop chasing for a minute and realize you have it. Like you already have all the things you need in order to be successful, happy, curious, in love with yourself, right? Because it's all here and now, right? It's all available to you. here and now. You know, you can you can look at it from the spiritual lens. You can look at it from the quantum physics scientific lens. And the thing that I think is really fun and part of what I like to do in my writing is to put a lot of those concepts together because they're not different so much as we think they are. Right. Like it's an illusion that they're different. They agree on so many

things. But I do think that that's true. Not to Chase. I think it's a good thing to always have that next higher level because that is who we are as beings, right? Like evolution is something that we absolutely came for as well, right? And you can't stop it. It's a thing that's always going to happen. There's always going to be a next thing, a next step, a next idea. The thing is the chasing element, right? The idea that you have to like, you know, bang that puzzle piece into place to make it work,

to make it fit, to make it valid, right? But you don't. It's it's just allowing that energy to come up that, oh, here, this would be a great idea. This would be a great next place I'd like to be. Just be excited about it. Be willing to explore what that energy is. And this is a space that I'm also in myself very much right now, trying not to have so many expectations of what the end result or outcome looks like. Because we have to remember, you know, from, if you can sit,

your higher self and your sort of human ego self, right? My human ego self has 37 years of experience and certainly in the world of humans, that is valid and that's fine. But it's nothing compared to what my higher self has access to in terms of information and moving parts and who are the right people for you to meet the right moments for you to decide to leave the house to go to this or that place. I, so for example, I yesterday was talking to a friend of of mine and she had put like little tattoos on her fingers and sent me a picture and some of they were like little cheese burgers and fries and was cute and I was like well now I need a cheeseburger and fries that is like I know this is not a healthy thing but like guess what I have a hankering for it I'm going to

follow that instinct and I so I like went to go get myself a cheeseburger I meant the drive-thru and the lady who's at the drive-thru window has these um she's wearing a hat that's got Jack Scallington on it. And I love Nightmare before Christmas. And I have Sally Stitch's tattoos on my left arm. And I showed her my tattoos. I'm like, oh, you know, get excited. She shows me her arm full of all these Tim Burton tattoos.

And I get to talking to her about Tim Burton because we both love Tim Burton. And I ended up, I have these little postcards that I do of abstract art. I also do abstract art. And I put like my QR code on it. And it's kind of like a little calling card thing that I have to like put up places or leave places. And I said, you know, I think. We just had such a nice interaction, and I really think the universe wanted me to give you this. And it's just a little piece of art.

And you can check out my podcast if you want, but it's just a little piece of art for you. You take it. She's like, oh, that made my day. That's so great. And it was just such a really lovely interaction. And so from this seemingly unimportant and seemingly really unhealthy and not good thing for me to do, go get myself a cheeseburger and fries. Right. But from this impulse that I had that my brain says, no, that's not good for your body and that's not good for you.

you shouldn't do it, I ended up still having this really lovely interaction with this person. And maybe that's not going to equate to dollars in the bank, of course, right? But it was a great energetic space for me to experience. And it's, again, having expectations of what outcomes are supposed to be or what impulses you have are valid and are going to take you into something good. You know, we have to let go of some of those definitions and some of those expectations and really allow our higher self, you know, God's source the universe call it whatever by whatever terminology you're comfortable with you know allow life to show you really good things in because even just things like that I'm always so grateful for I'm like I love having such nice interactions with people I love having happy interactions with people

with strangers that you just meet in your day to day life and you know so again just allowing the abundance of that joyful energy to show itself to you in whatever way is possible and not necessarily needing it to look a certain way in order for you to say, okay, well, that was abundance or that was valid or that was whatever. You know, there's, there's good and there's joyful something to be found everywhere if you're looking for it. It's so true. It's so true. Who doesn't love a cheeseburger and fries? Like it's life changing. You know, we did, again, we came to this human experience for all the things it has to offer and sometimes that is a burger and fries. And it's a great thing. I mean, there's a reason SpongeBob is is so popular, right? Like,

who doesn't want a crabby patty on a Saturday? Yeah, exactly. Do you have a, like, a certain spot where you get all your tattoos done, or do you have, like, a certain artist, or do you, like, go to different artists, or how does that work for you? I've kind of been all over with my tattoos. I did meet a lady. This is, again, some of those synchronistic things, right? So I went in to get a tattoo. I have a Batman logo tattoo because I love Batman on my right arm and I went in to get it. And the gal that I was working with who was, you know, helping me design it and doing the tattoo, she's a knitter and I'm a knitter and I dyed yarn at the time and ended up essentially trading her some of my hand dyed yarn for the tattoo. So like again, the idea of abundance comes in so many

forms. I didn't end up needing cash money to get this. And I ended up. up getting another tattoo from her the same way. Do you like trading a tattoo for yarn? Right. And so it's again, these wonderful synchronicities can happen when you're open to them, you know. And so I don't necessarily always go the same places, but, you know, I am one of those people that's a little bit addicted to the, the tattooing. I do want more, you know, so it's one of those things. It's another art form, right? And once you start, you start looking at yourself as, well, look at all this white space I have. Look at all this canvas that I haven't covered yet. You know.

Yeah. It's so like therapeutic in a way. Especially when you find someone that you think is a good artist. You have something in common with. You know, if you're going to be with this person for maybe, I don't know, 20 minutes, maybe an hour, maybe 10 hours. Maybe you're going to be with it for like three days, right? And you start thinking like, I don't know, three hours sets in.

You're kind of numb and you're going to like. this ritual in some ways. You're like, oh my God. This artist is working with me to help create. I'm going to wear their art forever. Like that's how much. It's so intimate in a way, right? It really is. And that's kind of a fun way to look at it. Right. Like when you get into tattoos and things like that, too, like there's almost a sort of altered state of consciousness that you sort of, right? Like as much as there is a sort of physical pain element to it. Like there's something in that, right? Like the, the adrenaline your body creates and the kind of serotonin, the excitement, right? And it does get you into a sort of, like I said, an altered state of consciousness almost, right?

And when you can sort of tune into that, the, again, the artistry of who's working with you. And if you can really create a great connection there, there's something that's really, every time you see that tattoo, you're going to think of that. And it's, it's like you're wearing that art forever, but you're also wearing that energy forever, right? Wonderful. It's such a beautiful way to say it because it changes you on some level. And then that's why I encourage everybody who's thinking about getting a big piece. Like take time to think about the piece that you want because it's with you forever and it speaks to you and it speaks for you. People look at you and be like, oh, what is that right there?

It can be the best conversation in the world or it could be the piece that people get afraid of. And that's all right too. But it's interesting to think about like what it means. to have something put on your body, like a companion forever. Well, what do you think? Forever to a certain degree, right?

Because we all have to remember this human form is a temporary form that we take, right? And so there's a little bit of also remembering to enjoy the fun of it, right? Like having that sort of childlike playtime about it, right? Like who wasn't a kid and didn't like get the markers out draw on yourself. You know,

who didn't do that? And so that is very true. And I, you know, for me, I guess with my tattoos, they're all pieces of my personality, right?

And in a very big way. And it's, it's kind of fun when you can sort of look back. So like my first tattoo that I got, I was 18 and it was, well, I can get a tattoo if I want to. Right?

And there's a certain amount of me that still looks at that tattoo and like maybe it's not necessarily something that you know I would maybe do it differently now but there's still that like remember that you have that little rebel in you like remember to honor that part of you that that was really excited to do something just because you could you know that that sort of playfulness and so there's there's a lot of your personality that you know that I think you're building to when you select these things and when you choose to get a tattoo like it's there's just there is so much to it for me, you know, and I do think that you can, like you said, you know, you can get something

that is like scary, but then that's for the people who like, they want to frighten people. They like, I want to be scary. I like that energy of you looking at me and thinking I'm a freak. Like some people, some people are into that. And who am I to say that that's not valid? If it's valid for you, then that's what you're meant to be doing. Go for it. You know, everything in the infinite multiverse is valid, is available and is meant to be there because diversity is what makes a thriving ecosystem. What do you think about tattoos as signaling our personality for others to see? And like you said, as we grow older, like our idea of who we are changes.

But on some level, like the tattoo is signaling to other people. Maybe a potential partner like, this is who I am. This is what I like. This is what I'm into. Like for you, like you've mentioned that. So you have the dark night and then the nightmare before Christmas. Like what like it sounds to me like you have a rebellious streak in you. Like there's something that I have very much the antagonist sort of adversarial energy to be a lot.

And I think that you know, it's a fun thing to explore when you when you get to this space of like, okay, I chose to be. be this human, this avatar, this person on this planet at this time. And, and, you know, there are moments, of course, that we all have where we're going, you know, damn, this human experience. Why did I do this to myself? This is so hard. Why have, why did I choose this kind of thing? But I think that to a certain degree, I selected a little bit of my personality and a little bit of where I grew up. I grew up in a very conservative area, very conservative family and ideas. I think that for me, it's like, okay, plant the seed of a shakeup, plant the seed of a shift of energy, plant the seed of newer, bigger, more expansive ideas in a place where maybe the energy or

the thought processes or paradigms have been a bit stuck or a bit slow to shift and change and evolve. And that maybe that's why I planted myself where I did, that I wanted to, to connect to a space that needed some help shaking up and shifting. And so for me, yeah, there's a little bit of that, again, adversarial energy. That's sort of the rebel, the black sheep, the herifant, if you will, you know, that sort of, right? Like maybe the ideas that you've been following for such a very long time aren't serving you as much as you think they are and maybe exploring some new things would be valuable for you.

you know and sure that comes in the form of again some things that might seem spooky or scary or weird or strange but i think it's a valuable thing to add that energy into a space that needs it right so and and i do yeah i have i mean like i have a beetle juice tattoo that i designed myself on my it's a sandworm and it says beetle juice beetle juice beetle juice so like there's a lot of things about my tattoos also that like this is where my creative brain is if it's supernatural if it's weird if it's strange if it's extraterrestrial if it's anything out in the the weird wild world that's that's what i'm about and you know it is i think it is a fun thing and i think of it too like when you said signaling to a partner to people or or to whatever this is who i am i see that also in the

podcasts and in my writing and in my art you know put these things out and like you want to get to know me you want to know if you'd enjoy spending time with me go watch my podcast listen to me talk There's things out there that you can, you know, here's who I am. Here's what I think about all day. If you want to know more about it, you know, it's out there for you to learn about kind of thing. You know, so and maybe there's a part of me that hopes that takes some of the effort and work out of, you know, meeting the right people to some degree, right? Just like, hey, here's me and here's my energy. And the people that are into that, come on over.

You know, so again, don't chase. Attract. Yeah. Yeah. really well said, and it speaks volumes of, in my opinion, I think it speaks volumes of how beautiful a person can be when they're willing to be vulnerable and put all their creations out there and believe in what they do wholeheartedly and continue to hone who they are and put things out there for people. And you do a lot of it. Like, I want to just talk a little bit about the,

Frankie's podcast network. Like I know lots of people have different podcasts, but you have like seven different podcasts. Like can you tell me a little bit about that strategy and how that came to be? That is my, I'm going to blame my Sagittarius Fire Sign Energy that I just like have a lot of creativity and a lot of ideas. And I, I will snag you out of the ether and say start a podcast with me because it'll be fun and you'll love it.

Let's go on this wild ride. It's going to be great. So there's a little bit of that that kind of has sparked it. But honestly, it's again, sort of the universe lining up dominoes in just the most divine way. So, you know, I do work a day job right now on top of all the things that I'm doing. I do still get sleep amazingly. I'm not sure how it just sort of, again, you got to follow your highest joy in the moment and find the times to rest and find the times to act. But in my day job, I met someone.

And I was just so, I'm starting a new podcast with my friend Sage, Sage the Infer. turn. Nice. What's up Sage? Yeah. And so it's Sage the intern. She's so she big difference between like big age gap. She's 22. I'm 37. She she is an intern right now at this at the job I'm working at. And the so it's kind of the fun of what we're doing is sort of exploring things learning about new things like sage the intern. What are we learning about today? You know, what do we want to talk about today? You know, this human experience, we're all interns just learning as we go. So, you know, kind of exploring that idea a little bit. But what we were talking about and what was interesting was, I have no reason outside of this job that we work together to have met you. We're in

very different spaces. We're in very different parts of our life journey. You know, different ages. She's finishing college right now. You know, we are in very, very different spaces. But we have the best conversations. We have the most fun conversations. We come up with some of the most fun ideas when we're chatting together. And we love like so many of the same, you know, exploring consciousness and the multiverse and the possibilities and weird stories that are out there that can, can show that maybe this reality is not as solid as we think it is, right? But there's no reason outside of this day job that in my mind, right, my human self says, this is not aligned to what my true purpose is. And this isn't where I'm meant to be right now. I'm so, you know, but without

that, I would not have met her. There's, again, it's that divine timing, that divine alignment that just because I think that this is not aligned to me right now doesn't mean it's not a stepping stone, doesn't mean that there's not something really valuable in it that the universe wanted me to be here to find. Right. And so it's in and of itself, just the fact that I'm starting that is super exciting for me. Right. And in a lot of ways, that's kind of how a lot of them started. You know, my fictional podcast, I started writing short stories. because so this is kind of a little bit fun for me.

Yeah. I guess. So like just before the pandemic started, right? I had just moved into my house. I was, you know, started a new job. It was kind of like starting over life situation for me in a lot of ways. And I had a friend from high school reach out to me. I hadn't written in a very long time.

I had been very, you know, I was working. I was doing the life things that we kind of get caught up in. this human. And I had a friend reach out to me from high school, wanted my address to send me a Christmas card and just asked me, are you still writing? And it seems, yeah, it seems really silly to me now. But in the moment, my thought was, oh, yeah, I used to really like to write. Why don't I write anymore? And so I started doing these short stories as a, there were some like writing competitions contest that I was just looking to enter. And these stories kind of all,

as I was writing them for different contest prompts, like they sort of went together. It was like, oh, this is, this here's this character. And it's kind of interesting to me. The more that I write, the more it really is a sort of, it's like a channeling situation.

You know, these characters are revealing themselves to me. These ideas and these places and these concepts are revealing themselves to me. And it's fun for me to watch how the, you know, again, following that thread and putting that puzzle together and not always having the full pieces of the picture until, you know, you get to another milestone and you can look back and say,

oh, I understand why that had to happen that way and had to be that way. So I, and it's, my podcast network and my writing and the abstract art that I do, it's all, it's really an exploration journey that I have been on that just keeps growing and expanding because that's what it's doing on its own. It's kind of like letting a flower bloom in its own good time, right? And just kind of watching it happen and being amazed at like, oh, I didn't know it was going to be this color. I didn't know the pedals were going to look like this.

I didn't know that, you know, these were the kind of, you know, it's going to attract honeybees. Very cool. Like, so it is a lot. There's a lot of things that I'm doing. But it's, again, it's really great because it just keeps growing in ways that I didn't expect. And I'm very much in that space right now where I'm like, let it. expand to where it's meant to go to where it's meant to be. I'm here to follow it. I'm here to

explore the energy and I'm just really so excited that things are, you know, going well again in ways that I didn't anticipate. It's amazing to me to think that after that long, like that's how much you influence. You should, I'm super stoked on your friend that called and said that. Like, I wish more friends would call and mention things to people that they admired about. I'm like, your, your writing, touch that person and they wanted to tell you about it. Well, and isn't it just, it's another one of those, like, isn't the universe just so perfect, how it just kind of knocks at the door, just, hey, hi, remember your authentic true self who really likes to be creative? She'd like to come play with you a little bit. Like, oh, oh, that's right.

Hi. Hi, that version of me. Yeah. Which is kind of a little bit with my adventures of Abernathy Franklin, like Abernathy Franklin discovers that she can travel the cosmos and with her heart chakra energy will herself into any time. time, space reality, and continuously is running into alternate versions of herself. And it's a fun exploration for me because it really is that all of these different versions of Abernathy Franklin are versions of me, right? Like, there's the me who's who's a little bit nervous and scared and thinks that this is all a little bit crazy. And then there's like where the Frankie

comes from, that's where Frankie's podcast network and my Frankie 411 podcast, Frankie is a version of Abernathy Franklin, who is the most highly consciously evolved version of Abernathy Franklin. She's the most experienced with traveling the cosmos. She's the most experienced with the nature of reality and how this existence really works. But she doesn't show it in the sense of, you know, the way that we as humans think of what makes you credentialed, right? Like, she's not poised. Like, she's constantly snacking and looking for what is the new food.

she can grab and taste and like just has such such an attitude of being supremely unconcerned with what happens and just so enjoying everything that does happen. And to a certain degree, I like to think of that as being my higher self, right? Like the best version of me is the version of me who so trusts my reality in my universe that I can just sit back and enjoy and allow things to flow. And so it is a fun exploration for me too, that it's it's a self-exploration. in a lot of ways that, you know, I'm writing these different versions of Abernathy Franklin that are versions of me that I'm trying to get to know a little better.

I love it. I love it. It's such a positive message, too, for people to take part in. I think that that might be why the level of success that you've currently had and the level of success that you're about to have is incredible. Like, the fact that you can create something. Yeah. Like what you're creating.

You're allowing others to participate in a dream. Like that's pretty amazing if you think about that. That is, oh, that's just such, I love that you said it that way because it's so fun for me. And I really, I say this to a lot of people that I interact with because I do have fun playing with like dreams and this like, you know, the sort of this waking dream and then our dreams and our sleep that we, you know, we think that they're separate and one is real and one is not. And it's all about our definitions, right? But I always tell people, like, if you ever see me in your, my friends, my family, and if I don't care if you're a stranger, if you see me in your dream, get my attention. Try to get my attention. Like, let's play around in the dream world. Like, there's got to be a way. And so it's again, like ideas of. I know it sounds like science fiction to a lot of people, but man, that's the kind of thing that I am looking for that experience in this human life, the magical, the mystical, the mystical, the transcendent, like somewhere in here. I know that there is a way to experience these wild things that I write about. So I do love that you put it that way because I absolutely, yes, please come and play in this dream with me.

I think it's going to be such a fun playground. Yeah, it is. It's like how sometimes I come up with really wild ideas. And the closest thing that I have gotten to trends like those wild. ideas or like to live as another character as another person like the first time I was able to do that was like on a giant dose of mushrooms and like I think there's something to be said no listen there is so so much value to break in your brain just a little bit there really is because you know the limitations we have are entirely in our belief structures the prisons that you believe you are in are

are ones that you have created for yourself. And if you can get some plant medicines that can shift you out of that and say, hey, hi, there's possibilities outside of that little box you've been living in. Would you like to see some of them? Yes, I very much would like to see some of them, please. Absolutely. Yeah. I love the way you said it earlier, too, about the universe bringing back this other version of you.

And you're like, hey, remember them? I remember young George over here? Yeah. Come on a little bit. Remember how little Georgie like to play and have fun, remember? Love it. You know, maybe you want to do that just a little bit because maybe he's got some really fun wild ideas for you that you could take and run with. And that's something that's really exciting too, you know, again, in this exploration of different versions of myself.

You know, I like to sort of play that game of like, okay, where's future Haley? Yeah. Where is this? Hi, let's channel future Haley who has figured out this or that component of what I'm doing. Like, hey, future Haley, I have this great idea. How did you do it? Right? Because there's a version of you that's done it.

There's a version of you in the multiverse somewhere. And again, call it what you want. But there is a version of you who has completed all these things that you think if you completed you would be whole. Yeah. Well, so channel that energy. Channel that person. be whole now be that person now and you know that's again it's the space that i'm in of having the patience with yourself having some more gentleness with yourself and saying you know you didn't come

here to figure it all out you came here to witness it happen right you did so let your higher self orchestrate this great movie for you that you want to watch that you wanted to see like you bought the ticket to the theater in this human realm, and you wanted to see the play, play out. Watch it. You know, allow life to surprise you in some really delightful ways. I do think, you know, I don't know, I do have some stories we could talk if you wanted to talk plant medicine, but.

I would love to. Well, let's hear one. So the first time that I ever experienced mushrooms. Okay. So didn't know what to expect. not something that I had ever done before. Definitely, again, grew up in conservative space, was not like, had to be afraid of those things, right?

Because they were going to turn you into a psychotic person or whatever. But I do remember I was sitting. I was with my sister and a friend of hers. And we all, like, got together to do it together as a like, you know, because none of us ever had. And so it was kind of like, let's make ourselves a nice, safe environment and let's do this together. And, you know, interesting how we were all having very different experiences.

But there's a lot of things I can look back at now. So, for example, at one point I was upstairs. I was sitting in a chair and I'm staring at my sister's PS4 game controller. And I can't find the word for it. And I'm like, I don't, I can't name that. And I'm kind of looking around the room. And I'm like, okay, find. something that you know the name of it. I was like, I lost my words. I lost language. Like, I'm looking

at the lamp in the corner and I'm like, I know what that thing is, but I don't know what it's called. And I was freaking out. And so I went downstairs to like, like, okay, I'm going to shower. And like, that was the thing that I thought I was going to fix it. Right. And I remember at the time, at the job I was working at the time, we had a new boss coming in and I was kind of nervous because he was like this kind of big wig dude from DC who was coming in. to be the new branch chief guy that I was going to be supporting. But in my state on mushrooms, just as I was freaking out and losing my language, I went, oh my God, it doesn't matter. This is, we just make this up.

This is all just made up. I'm just making all of this up as I go and it doesn't matter. There's no reason for me to be. And I remember honestly being in the shower and having a moment where I was like, this is how people break their brains and end up in institutions. Who is going to take care of my dogs? Like, who's going to take care of my house? Just freaking out.

But then I went upstairs and my sister and her friend had ordered Chinese food. And I had the most delicious Chinese food. And life was good again. And it was just, it's such a great thing to shift yourself out of all of the ideas and definitions that you've had of yourself for so long and recognize. Oh, I can redefine myself if I want. I can play a new character if I want to. I can choose to be a different energy, a different person who does different things. You know, we do have that free will as humans.

You get to do that. Yeah. And, you know, it's an ongoing process. It's a journey. I have my moments every day that it's more terrifying that my thoughts create my reality than it is empowering. Right. But you, it really is then it does become, okay, if this is all just something that we're making up as we go, right? If reality is based on definitions and what I experience is based on my own subjective thoughts and feelings, right?

It really is just a matter of focus. It's a matter of, you know, reminding yourself, I can choose to feel the feelings I prefer to. to feel. I can choose the energy of joy. I can choose the energy of being open to positive outcomes, even if my external circumstances do not, you know, organize themselves in a way that anyone else watching would say is positive. Because, right, we, and it's, it's, I think that's a really useful thing, too, when it comes to plant medicines, is that you start to recognize there's something internal that can be your guidepost and your compass. It, your validation does, you know, does not come from the external world, right?

You get to choose what validates you. You get to choose what you validate in your external experience. And it really does. It becomes just a matter of focusing. And so like, okay, my intention is this kind of energy and to be this kind of person. When I find myself getting caught in loops of old paradigms and old versions of who I used to be,

just reminder, you know, it's like training an animal, right? Like, nope, we got to keep focusing where we prefer to be. We just got to keep shifting ourselves into that positive mindset. We can do this. We've got this. So, you know, I don't want anybody to think that I am some perfect guru that I, that I have, you know, any better idea what I'm doing in this human ride than you do. I do not.

But I'm very excited about the possibilities of what I can do and what we can do collectively, you know. And so that's one of the things that I think is really exciting about meeting new people in this realm is if you can focus your energy and your attention on a on a on a on a goal on something that you want to see where can we really take it like what are the the highest possibilities and potentialities that we can experience as humans and that's something that I think is really exciting yeah first all right I know that was a long little plant medicine rant it was it's amazing I and I see this theme it's happened to me and so many people I know is that there's this thing we bump up against in language and you start realizing anything and it's scary you know and maybe you can help me

understand why it's scary but it's like when you begin to realize that everything around you has a name that you were told that it is I think on some level you begin to think oh my god all my thoughts aren't mine or a lot of them aren't when you start realizing this is a lamp that's a television it's a fun it's a fun little game to play isn't it so and as a writer it's kind of interesting, you know, dual paradigm to hold this idea that, you know, I'm trying to create new worlds with my words and my writing and yet words and language are so very limited because they are. They're very limited because, you know, sure, you can call that a bookshelf behind you, but if that bookshelf had its own sentience and potentialities of self-reflection and being

able to talk to you about itself, what would it call itself? It's not going to call itself a bookshelf, you know, just because you give it that name doesn't mean that. That's what it they, just because you call a dog, a dog doesn't mean that that's how it thinks of itself, right? And it's, it's interesting that we as humans have that sort of, well, we are sentient and self-aware. And so we're the ones who know what things are and get to label things. And it's such a, it's kind of like measuring time and distance and volumes. We want to put categories and labels on things so that we can understand them. And again, it's a sort of duality.

right? You have to recognize that it is all made up. You have to recognize that the energy of something does not necessarily, you can't all, the word or the label for something is just a representation of that energy, right? And even if you think of abundance, it's the same thing. Dollars are a representation of abundance. They're not abundance. Money is not abundance. It's a symbolic representation of abundance, right? And so it's, the reason it's scary, is because we're so comfortable with structure and we're so comfortable with what's familiar. And if you go into that space in that realm of just because you call this, this word doesn't make it that thing. It's just something you use to try to describe what the thing is, but you can't with language get the essence or isness of anything, of anyone. The isness. Right? It's the isness. That's what we are.

you know, even your own name. That's a label you were given by your parents. You know, those are words that your parents gave to call you. And, you know, we as humans, we attach our identity to so many things that are just labels, just words, just things that are meant to try to define and explain an energy or an isness. But you really can't. You have to experience it energetically, vibrational, because that's the true nature of our

universe, is energy and vibration. And so it is an interesting sort of game that we play as humans that, you know, let's name it and label it and put it in a nice, pretty little box. And then we can put it on a shelf and understand it and then it's valid and then we feel comfortable and we feel safe. Yeah. I heard a story one time that was, I think it was Terence McKinnett explaining something about language. And he used the idea of a hummingbird. And he goes, you know, imagine being a child in this colorful winged. beast flies into your room and it's all magical and you're just staring at like look at this thing it's so crazy and then your parent comes and goes that's a hummingbird george it's a hummingbird like

they've just taken away all the magic and giving you this neat little box to put it in now now you no longer have that wait i think it's a wing beast called a flogadage you know whatever and you could shakespeare make up your own words that are just as valid as any other words as long as it makes sense to you. Right. You know, that's something that I think, I love that you talk about that because I kind of think about this with kids sometimes in general, that like, you know, I don't have kids. I'm not, you know, motherhood's not something that like is part of my ambition in this life. But I think that sometimes when you define, it's, I think isn't the ancient Vedas, not a Brahma. If you name me, you negate me, right? And it's true.

as soon as you give something a label or a definition, you remove all the possibilities of all the other things that it could be. And it works the same way, not just in the magic with kids, but in how you tell them how they're separate and different from one another. Right. Like when you, when you look at behaviors of maybe some, you know, kids that might have maybe be on the spectrum or supposedly have ADHD or whatever the medical community says is wrong with them that really isn't. they just understand so much more innately than we do that the systems and structures that are in place are not actually useful to humans anymore. We've evolved beyond them and we need to create new things. But you know, if you tell a kid that, oh, that kid who's acting out or behaving

this or that way, that's a bad kid. That's a, you know, you label them in bad ways too and you give them definitions of things that are, you create fearful definitions, right? So not just removing the magic, But removing the connectivity and the compassion that is innate within children, right? And I think that's something that is, it's useful to have conversations like this so that we in the adult world can sort of remember a little bit of that childlike purity and innocence. You know, the playfulness, the why not love everyone? We're all connected. I don't know any different that you're different than me until somebody told me that you were, right? I don't know that you're someone I should or should not play with until someone told me that, you know, trying to undo that human conditioning and undo those definitions and recognize that every now moment is a new moment, is a new opportunity, is a new perspective available if you choose to be open to it.

Right. And that's who we were when we came, right? That's how you start as kids until we all talk ourselves out of, you know, being excited and playful and open. Yeah. Yeah, I think first off, you should do a podcast about education. I'm just going to throw that out there because you have a really interesting way of seeing the world and children. I don't know. Like, where did that come from, Haley? Like, how do you know so much about education and you? Have you studied that or like, does that come from personal experience or does that come? Well, there is a version of me who almost went into teaching.

So I did do some, like, student teaching and things like that. Okay, that makes sense. But, you know, it's, it's, again, the universe has brought me the right opportunities to be able to see certain things and explore certain ideas. And, you know, it's kind of interesting how, like, from where I sit now, you know, perspective, it's always the hindsight is 2020. From where I sit now, it becomes a bit interesting to see all of these things that, again, I think have been so misaligned with my true purpose that really end up fitting together so well and helping me to have these perspectives and these understandings. I mean, I think a lot of it is just my own curiosity and exploration.

Like, I have always been very curious. I've always like science documentaries, nature documentaries, you know, any information that's available, I'm very interested in it. But then that's what's kind of fun about, again, the creative side, the writing side, the consciousness exploration side is, okay, here's all this, yes, educational things, these science things, these human measurements that we have created, right? These quantify and name and label. And it's fun. And I've always been good at like rote memorization and information gathering and things like that. It's been natural for me. But then it, again, you know, break your brain and shift it.

Well, those things are all actually only true if you adhere to believing that they are true. They can absolutely become nothing and not true and not valid if you choose this other reality where the opposite is the case. You know? And so it is, I guess for me, a lot of it is that curiosity. And I think I'm going to say probably, I get a lot of it. I'm going to say from my dad and my grandma, both of whom are now watching me from the other side of the veil. And I still appreciate the assistance that they're giving me. new ways that they are able to.

But like my dad was always like big into nature and and astronomy. And it's kind of one of the things that I wish I could hook up with him in my dreams and ask him, where did you learn all about the stars? Because you barely graduated high school, but you always knew when there was going to be an eclipse before the internet and the news was the thing. Like always knew where like that's Jupiter. That's Venus. That's this constellation.

How did you know that? Like where did that come from? And even that in and of itself is such a fun exploration for me to have like, you know, Dad, did you have, were you tapped into something that you didn't talk about because you weren't supposed to talk about it? Is that where some of this comes from in me? You know? And so that's something that's interesting for me. Like my grandma, big into angels and fairies. She was someone who wrote stories and did art and about angels and fairies. And sometimes, again, I wish I could talk to you in a dream, grandma,

Because now I'm starting to think that you really did believe and that you put it in the frame of fiction in the same way that I do. Because that's how you can present it to people in a way that they're able to accept it and approach it. Right. Like here's all these magical things that we can experience in the world and consciousness, all these possibilities. And a lot of people have a difficult time undoing the human conditioning that allows them to be open to it. And that's what I want to do with my fiction. right is you incorporate all these big concepts of quantum physics of science of expansive consciousness and spirituality but in a way that is fun that is storytelling that is something that people can approach easily and more playfully so that it's you know not everyone can can watch the spiritual sort of documentary things right like not everyone's going to be drawn to that how do you bring them into these concepts and these energetic ideas right again when you think like language versus energy how do you get people people interested in going down that rabbit hole of self-discovery and self-awakening in a way that's

not just bashing them over the head with information. Right? And so that's what I, that's what I, is kind of a goal too of the creating and the podcast explorations is can you bring this to people in a way that they can hear it. Like, because you never know. And that's the thing that I talk about on the podcast too. You never know what voice is going to be the right voice for someone that they needed to hear. maybe they've heard the message before, maybe they've gotten that information before,

but for whatever reason, it didn't resonate. Your voice might be the voice that resonates with them. So whatever thing you have that you have to put out into the world that you think, well, everybody else is doing this or plenty of people have written books, plenty of people have podcasts, plenty of people are doing art. Yeah, sure. But your specific creativity exists in you because there's someone out there who's looking for it.

There's someone out there who you're the one whose voice is. is what gets to them and what helps them grow themselves. And you never know when that's going to happen. So, you know, being open to always being your authentic self and just putting things out there because I wouldn't have that divine spark that told me to create it and put it out there if there wasn't a place for it, right? Because again, nature is harmonious and puts things together perfectly. And as humans, I think we forget a lot of times that we are still nature.

and if we allow ourselves to be our authentic self, that is how you put the most good out into the thriving ecosystem of humanity. If it's something in you that you feel passionate and excited about, then that's who you are, and that's the role you're supposed to play. You know? Like a squirrel is a squirrel because the squirrel does squirrel things.

Right? And a tree is a tree and birds and be, they all have their place, they all have their role. They don't, they don't think about, you know, squirrel's not going to say, well, I need to just drop this and learn how to be a butterfly for a little while. Like, this is not like, but that's what we do as humans to ourselves. No, you should be an accountant and you need to get a practical job and you need to do this or that thing. No, the thing that really lights you up is the place that you are meant to have in the ecosystem of humanity.

And it has a value, even if other people don't necessarily recognize it right away. And even if you yourself don't get a chance to see it, you know, if you put a message out there and it really resonates with someone, you might not know. that you've helped someone. But again, put it out there and do it because someone out there needs it if you have that joy in you that says to do it. And you don't have to know what the highest outcome is, right? Because again, we as humans. My little mind can only put together the things I've experienced so far, right?

Be open to the possibilities of the things that you haven't experienced coming to fruition, right? And be open to the possibility that the creativity, and the things that you put out into the world are changing lives in ways that maybe you don't get to see, but they're still changing lives. Like, you never know when you saved somebody from

a really bad day. You never know when you shifted someone's mindset. And it's, it's that, that idea, again, of like, understand you have inherent value because you exist. Even if you don't see the sort of, you know, human validated ways

that, that, you know, that it's valuable, doesn't mean it's not valuable. And that's something. So that's another one of the series that I'm writing a book I'm trying to finish right now to put out. It's called Straight From Death, existence as told by the Grim Reaper herself.

So again, adversarial, right? Like you got to. So death is telling stories of her favorite soul collections. And all of the stories at the outset are a bit morbid, a bit sad, like one of them is a sort of Romeo and Juliet thwarted love story where the male counterpart becomes a cult leader and sets all of his congregation on fire in the church. Right?

Like really horrific things. But then at the end of it, when death comes to collect these people and does a life review with them, they're able to see the value and the beauty in the existence that they had, the effect that they had on those around them, the ways that human consciousness evolved and should. shifted and changed because of who they were and the role that they played when they came to this human theater, right? And so it's, again, that idea of just because something looks a certain way by standard definitions doesn't mean that there's not something beautiful and valuable in it to be taken away, right? And it doesn't mean that the experience didn't somehow in some way add to the expansion of evolution of human consciousness of the universe of all that is. Right.

So it's, again, those ideas that I really love exploring, the, we define certain things as good or bad in, you know, positive or negative in very sort of cut and dried ways. And I think we need to remember that we get to define what is, there's really no such thing as good or bad or good or evil. it's wanted and unwanted, preferred and not preferred to your specific self for what is right for you who you are. And that's all that there really is. And if you can get right within yourself and be comfortable with that, I think it gets to a place where you're more comfortable letting other people be who they are and not needing to exert something over them to change them, their perspectives or their

mindset. But just to say your experience and your journey is 100% valid where it is just because I don't understand it doesn't mean that it's not something that is meant to be experienced, right? But everything is available on the buffet line in the multiverse. You just put the things on your plate that you actually want. If you try it and don't like it, you don't have to eat it. It's beautiful. I'm really thankful for your grandmother and your father.

They had those things that, you know, were that you have. and probably other people in your family have. Probably your sister and your mom have. Yeah. No, it's interesting that it's funny I've seen myself as a black sheep in a lot of ways. But now I'm starting to recognize that that black sheep energy is a little bit of, I go after the things that are possible. And I do, you know, kick at the system or kick it what's expected of me.

Yep. And I know it's not liked because they want to do it. Right. So I have actually been, and it's interesting because I've not always had a great relationship with my mom. It's been a very sort of interesting learning process. And I'm sure that I selected that for myself for a purpose as well. Sure. But I have been encouraging her to write children's books because she's said a few.

Like she's tried to tell me that I should write children's books. And I'm like, that's just really not where I'm at. And I'm like, you should write children's books. And she started giving me because she was giving me these ideas. I'm like, if you have these creative ideas, go create it. Like, go write these down. I will help you figure out finding artists. I know how to self-publish these books.

Like, I will help you, like, write these kids stories. And she's kind of coming around to that, right? So again, the idea that I've seen myself as sort of an adversary, but it's really more of an energy of, let me point out to you the ways that you're blocking yourself from exploring things that might be really joyful for you. And that might really be things that you do have to offer the world. You know, so it's an interesting. again, interesting exploration to kind of see where that's going. And it's kind of fun for me to kind of

nudge her like, are you writing those kids books? Are you like, yeah, I'm writing down ideas. And so, yeah, you know, I do think that I do. I appreciate, I appreciate so many of the people that are in my life that maybe I've previously looked at as, again, you see them as a problem. You see them as the reason that you conditioned yourself to not believe in yourself. But they're, they're, There is still something there to be. There's still a treasure chest to be found, right? If you dig beneath the surface level, oh, this person always, you know,

didn't believe in me enough or told me that I should do this. You know, I think sometimes when you expect everyone else to be your cheerleader, you forget that maybe they need you to be a cheerleader in some ways, you know. Like you can look at the conditioning of human society and say, like, it's keeping me down. It's keeping me in prison. It's holding me bad. or you can look at it and say, oh, maybe I was here and I came here to be the chisel that starts

knocking that down, right? Like, it's again, that idea of, am I a victim or am I empowered to create my own reality? And it's, the empowerment comes from the perspective you choose to have of whatever is the circumstance or the situation or the thing that you're looking at. Right. So again, definitely a space that I'm in of, I know that my higher self saw something super, super valuable here for me that would really help me level up where is that valuable thing and sometimes it's harder to find it

than others you know I recognize that too I'm not gonna I certainly don't want to you know the things that we experience in life that are uncomfortable or difficult it's I don't want people to sit there and act like you have to like the things that are painful and difficult

you know things like grief things like betrayal or these different you know humans again, so-called negative things we experience. Yes, they're all valid and sometimes those things are painful. But you, I just, there has to be something good somewhere in it. And that's where I'm at right now is how do I find the perspective that I know my inner being, my higher mind, that that unconditional love, it's somewhere, right?

Like the unconditional love of the circumstance, the person, the situation, the whatever. It's there. I know it is. How can I find it? Yeah, I think it's those times of tragedy or frustration or, like you said, the world, when it bears down on you, it's testing you so that you can be more creative. It's like, I love you so much. I'm going to put you in this horrible situation because you can do it. And you're like, what are you fucking talking about?

I don't want to be in that situation. Don't take that person from me. How dare you take that person from me? What are you going to do about it? Well, first time, I'm going to cry for a little bit. Okay? I'm going to do that first. And then the next thing I'm going to do is I'm going to figure out a way that anybody else who ever goes through this, it can be easier for them.

Like, that, I think, is what these situations are about. Like, when you see the people you love the most suffering and coming to you and believing in you when they're the authority figure, you're like, God damn it. Why am I supposed to be that person? How can I do that? Like, that's how much they believe in you. Think about like that that's how much they believe in you like they're going to give you all their authority because like they need a hero. They need that. And sometimes we don't want that.

But if it's given to you and you can do it, you should be that hero for them if you can't. That is that that's such a fun thing, isn't it? Like the idea that authority, authority most belongs to those who seek it least. Right? Power. Yes. It's so true. Like, because again, you know, it's like you look at those things and for me, such a true thing.

You know, I don't want to be the authority on this. Like somebody else come in and just take care of all of this for me. I don't tell me that I know what I'm doing. Are you kidding? You know, and I get like that that's such a true thing. And but those it's kind of a thing that, again, it's perspective. Was it placed on me because I have the capacity or did I believe so much in myself when I came in that I could do this? that I chose it for myself.

And if I chose it for myself, then it's a place of standing in your power in a very different way, right? Like maybe I chose to experience those difficult things because I knew I was going to have such an elevated sense of compassion for people that I was going to be able to use for the greater good expansion of humanity.

Right? And I do think that's true because I'm, again, you can see all. the love light rainbows unicorns here but let me tell you what this comes from a place of i have absolutely experienced very deep depression i have absolutely experienced very heavy difficult emotions right right oh everyone out there is just like hello hi me yeah but being able to come out the other side of that and look at other people who are struggling and say i see you i know i understand i understand where you're at and but but look at if i can find this perspective so can you right if if i can find

the place of having love for myself that that i was brave enough to decide to come and be a human for a while and experience this limiting space this space where we think that we are so imprisoned and and and you know strapped into where we can't you know be free and be ourselves what a brave thing we did, right, in coming and deciding to do it. Maybe pat yourself on the back a little bit that you had the courage to decide to be a human and experience these things as difficult as they might be. And recognize that, you know what, all that pressure creates a diamond. Yeah, I agree.

You know, you have a really interesting like one-two punch of a lot of people or writers and some people are speakers and very few people are writers and speakers. You know, I think it was Samuel Clements who said something along the lines of the written word is the carcass of the spoken word. And when you look at people being bands or people that are great orators,

they can like pack a stadium and people will listen to their words. What do you think, like what do you think about the difference between the written word and the spoken word and what is your relationship with both of those? you know when the thing about writing is that you get to edit and you get to think about it and you get you know like you get the time to contemplate you get the time to review you get the time to polish it before you present it right but with speaking you're you're in the moment and you have to be in the moment with it and I'm definitely someone that I always I kind of I do really surrender and relinquish to my higher self and say I know that you will bring me the words. I know that you will find the words for me to say that are

right in the moment. The conversation that needs to be had is the conversation that will be had. And I trust that. With my writing, it's kind of interesting where, again, it's allowing the flow when it comes. And I think what I'm practicing having to do in a lot of ways is don't be so fixated on the polishing overthinking it part, right? Don't be so fixated on it. It has to look perfect before you put it out there, right? Trust that what you create in the moment is what needs to be created, right? Just the way that when you speak and have conversations, you trust that it'll come out the right way as it needs to.

So, you know, there's a difference in terms of presentation, and maybe there's a little bit of a difference, certainly in the world that we live in now, obviously being more media focused and more, you know, video content and speaking is. maybe something that people gravitate to more than reading or written words. But again, even in that, there's possibility, right? So, like, you know, for me, I've been doing, like, little microfiction and I post little

videos of it with my abstract art on my, you know, Instagram or my YouTube and TikTok and things like that. So it's an interesting thing to me because it's that idea of these things that we consider as being sort of separate beasts. In some ways, yes, they are separate, but separate only in the sense that any separation exists. It's a fractal, right? It's a piece of the greater whole, and they are connected in some way, and you can blend them harmoniously, and you can find ways to integrate them in new and innovative ways that it doesn't have to be separate, right? So, And I think that's something that I am trying to to focus myself on a little bit too, is less

overthinking and just more flow creating, letting it come out and let it be. And I think that's, it's maybe if you think about it that way, there's a little bit of sort of like third dimensional consciousness and fifth dimensional consciousness about it, right? Think of writing as the third dimensional, very physical, very material, well thought out, very structured sort of third dimensional consciousness. And then speaking is maybe a little bit more fifth dimensional consciousness, more in the flow, less overthinking, more allowing things to happen and allowing things to come. But you need both of them because you have to, the step ladder only works if you have all the

steps, right? You got to start from the 3D and that material and that physical and bring yourself up into that more elevated consciousness and bring those concepts from the 3D along with you because that's how you really grow, right? It's to like take what you have with you. And, you know, your roots are important as much as the flower is important, right? The tree leaves are just as important as the roots, you know, integrate all of it because that's how you are a whole being. I love it.

That's a great way to understand why it's all been necessary. Mm-hmm. You know what I mean? Like it's important to understand that. And I want to bring this gentleman right here, DJ, DJRC 420. We're cheering for you guys. This guy right here, I'm going on the podcast, he has a whole spot in Canada where people come up to his retreat.

It's like a writing retreat. So people will go up there. It's like the most beautiful spot in Canada. Yeah, DJ, reach out to Haley. Hi, hello. Yeah. I'm a writer. How can we collaborate?

I have a whole series of meditations and writing exercises that I haven't put together. That's another of my, you know, ideas in the pocket that I'm working on as it comes. Like, yeah, let's collaborate. Let's do something cool and fun. Yeah. I have a whole entire macabre meditations series that I want to do because spooky people need to relax too, right? Again, I understand, you know, me and my interests from the paranormal supernatural, maybe a little bit more spooky realms. I can marry that with spirituality.

I know I can. Like, let's bring that stuff together. Yeah. Yeah. No, that sounds really cool. That sounds right up my alley. I would absolutely love to talk about that. That's, hi, Haley overseth at gmail.com, come and email me.

Come and talk to me. Find me on my podcast, you know. Let's talk 100%. Again, come and play in this stream with me. Yeah. I think he's relatively close to you. And like he has some of his ideas. I think he guys would really jelled.

And anyways, like we said earlier, I don't believe in like the more synchronisticies we see, the closer we are to being aligned, right? So like that's 100%. I love it. Oh, synchronicities are just my favoriteest thing in the whole wide world. It's kind of, I don't know if you ever watched Dr. Who, the bad wolf saying like, I am the bad wolf. I create myself, right?

Like these synchronities that you see are little pieces that you left for yourself. These are breadcrumbs that you put there for yourself. self, signs and signals. And, oh, I love it when they come up. And I just can't wait to get to a level where I'm finding the loaves of bread synchronicities and not just the crumbs, you know, like the real magic and the real synergy. Like, that's the thing that I'm just so excited to see unfold because it's like, it's again, it's that thing that I know that I've asked for it from the universe. I know that it's possible because everything is available in the infinite multiverse. All right, Haley, where's the future version of you that's figured it?

out and it's experiencing it. Bring me your energy. Like, what do I need to do from here in this moment? Show me the things. It's so interesting you say that because what if right now in this podcast you and I are creating a relationship and exchanging ideas that will change our lives forever? Let me give you an example. You had recently talked about the flow, like flow and how we're Yeah, I know. 5D and 3D. Like I'm wearing this thing right now. It's called a soul compass. And it's Susan Brown has a company called Token of Me. And she's measuring the flow state coherence. Oh, I love that.

That's fun. Yeah. So Susan, if you're watching this, Haley should definitely be on a team. Please talk to me. I, like, let me tell you, I have been asking the universe. How do I become part of consciousness exploration in the scientific way? Like, how do it put somebody study me in my brain. Because if I'm over here saying what's going on up here, like I, you know,

oh please please do talk to me i have been asking the universe how can i really engage with this material in a bigger way like oh i love that because the like you know the institute of noetic sciences is something that i find really interesting to like just people who are genuinely studying consciousness and it's again you know i know that it's a human thing that we want to measure things and quantify things but oh if you can find more ways to make that magical world solid for for more people you know, because again, the energetic vibrational version of it is absolutely good enough for me, but I know it's not good enough for everybody and they want to see the hard results in the data. And oh, let me be one who can help you bring the data into the world.

I'm here for it. There's another group that you'd be perfect. It's called the octopus movement. I'm a member. Imagine that. And there's so many people there that are on this path of creativity, coherence. And this is like, as I'm telling you this, like, anybody this conversation is resonating with. Check all this.

Everyone is listening to this. Go check out a token of me. Like, it's fucking mind blowing. I love it. Movement, mind blowing. And like, you should be members of both of them. Like, I'm telling, I'm going to tell people and don't want you to become part of this. Oh, bring me in.

I'm here for it. I want to play with all the people who are playing all the fun consciousness games. I am all about it. Yeah. Oh, I just love it. That's just so exciting. And that's, again, one of those, like, oh how it's just in the moment feeling the energy of the possibilities that

exist just because we're here having this conversation on this podcast and who's going to hear it and who's going to see it and who am I going to meet and what are we going to co-create together that energy of that oh there's more expansion here to be had to be felt to be seen it's so exciting I so here for it I'm so here for it it's amazing what could happen with a conversation and willingness to talk about creativity but more than that, a willingness to dig down deep and put your ideas out there. The world rewards that. Right now more than ever, we need creative people and everybody's creative. We need everyone all hands on deck, your stories, your ideas, all of it. We need that more than ever right now.

I think it's, I think that's 100% true. And I think it's part of why I do keep putting my stuff out there because, you know, again, you never know. Like, okay, here's, you know, me and my, here's a silly little idea that I put out into the, to the world that, like, so I was talking to my friend about how I don't like the snow in South Dakota, right? My friend Sage, the intern, and maybe we'll have a conversation about it on the podcast.

Yeah. And I was like, let's start a business where we do snow removal with flame throwers. Like, in my, right? And it was just a silly throw. way thing. But then I started to come up with and here's another thing I do that I haven't gotten to explore just yet. But like I start I build stand up comedy sets in my mind that I'm doing. And I practice in my living room by myself all the time. Yes, I talk out loud to myself like I'm on

a stage and entertaining the masses. Of course I do. Why shouldn't I? Right. Right. Because somewhere there's a version of me who actually is. Of course. But I started this little, you know, kind of comedy bit about doing this snowblower business where you do snow removal with flame throwers because I'm sure there have to be customers in South Dakota that would hire me because they think to themselves, I'd love to cash in my insurance check for my house and move to Florida. And who am I am happy to facilitate that for you for a nominal snow removal fee. Right.

But it's again, just being open to these silly ideas sort of like starting from a throwaway thing that I say and then building up into this like little like sure I'm amusing myself and entertaining myself when I do this but who knows where that could go in terms of like maybe I could build an entire story off of that maybe I could create a short story right follow those little silly thoughts where they go because you can't know which of them is going to lead you to the Emerald City you just don't know right I do I love it and and you never know when that little thing that you say is going to spark the creativity in someone else right and so that's part of the importance to put your creativity out there because one silly little thing that you say or think could spark a whole business empire idea for someone you you never know when that synergy is going to happen and trust the universe that it's lined up perfectly that it is orchestrating things so that you do say that right thing and that person does listen to the podcast that you're on and hears it and says hey i got to talk to you about let's do this

the universe knows again better than i do how to put those things together let the universe set the dominoes up and watch them fall that's what you came for you're the witness of of the blooming of the flower that's what you're here for it's so beautiful to think about that aspect of it you know and it's like once you once you see it once you know what it's like it's like those it's like those pictures where you can't squint your eyes and like the three-d kind of object comes out of you like once you see it you can't unsee and the same is true for life like you're in a rut just stop for a minute and focus like what's the world trying to teach you what situation keeps coming up on your life that you like that that situation that's repeating is desperately

trying to get your attention like you got to solve that and the world will give you the answers if you just stop for a minute just pause there is oh there's just there's so much there that I always talk about this, that like the big solutions to the things that we think are the biggest problems are, you know, they're available. Someone somewhere has a brilliant idea for cleaning up the oceans and the garbage in the oceans and creating clean water. Someone somewhere has it. If we can silence the noise for just a little bit, right? Like, and it's on an individual level, it's true. On a consciousness collective level as a species, it's true.

If we can quiet that noise that wants us to focus on the problems, right? Focus on the negative, focus on what's going wrong. Focus on, again, bang in the puzzle pieces into place. How do we make this fit? How do we make this work? If you can stop and be still and be silent, that's when those voices that have those brilliant ideas can be heard, you know? And if we can, if you can do that within yourself and hear the brilliant ideas that

you have that are being offered to you from your higher self. Again, the universe source, call it what you want. Like, the unconditional love of all that is is always trying to talk to you and tell you how you can be the best service to the entirety of the world. And here's the great thing, too, that I think people need to remember about service and being of your highest service. Your highest service is also your highest joy. Like, we have this idea, I think, that service is equated to sacrifice in humanity that you have to give up of yourself. And it's, no, you have to give in to the you that you really are because when you're in that space of loving yourself and loving the stuff that you're doing, that's when you have the best things to create. That's when you create the most

amazing things that other people can enjoy and use and benefit from. It's, you know, your highest joy is how you are of highest service. That's why it's so important to follow your passion. Right? It's such a, and I know it's a concept again, I've been through it myself where I've had to retrain my brain to the limiting language things that I think service and sacrifice they're equated. Right. No, that's old conditioning. Let that go. When you are experiencing excitement and passion and joy, that's when you are putting the best that you can possibly put into the world out there. Like that is when you are really creating an impact. and that sort of service, you don't have to look a certain way or follow the definitions of society for it to be valid service. If it feels good, if it resonates, if you're joyful, it's what you're supposed to be doing. Imagine people being addicted to becoming the best version of themselves.

Oh, I have just, this is the conversation I was just having with myself in the shower yesterday. I am telling you, seriously, I love this. Brilliant synchronicity right here again. Where I was just lit, I was asking myself, okay, if I hyper fixate and I know that I have this conditioning or this practice tendency to hyper fixate on problems or what's not working or what's not going right, it's just as easy to fixate on what I want. Isn't it? Isn't it just as easy to hyper fixate on, well, what about these possibilities and what about these things? And I can hyper fixate on the things that make me feel excited and the things that make me love. light up as a person, you know? And oh, what a beautiful, brilliant world it would be if we were all

addicted to being our best self. If we were all addicted to being our authentic self. And if we all were addicted to allowing everyone else to be their authentic self without telling them what that needs to look like, right? Like, if we can all exist in this wonderful, beautiful tapestry of I am an individual, but we are all one. And if we all allow ourselves to be the bright color you're supposed to be. That picture will come into such a beautiful focus. Humanity, I know we can do this. I'm so excited to be here and be a part of it. I love it. I love it. You know what? I am just so very happy that we connected and you invited me on the podcast. This is just such a brilliant conversation and the energy of it is so excited. I can't wait to see

what the universe puts together just out of this beautiful, happy energy. That's That's another thing that I really have been excited to watch. Like, you know, again, you can fix it on. Here's these thoughts that I've had that, okay, I know that that thing that I experienced that I didn't actually want to create for myself came from these thoughts or vibrations that I was putting out. Right. But what if you get really excited and addicted to the idea of, oh, I just had a really

great interaction with someone. What kind of brilliant manifestation is going to come out of that happy energy? I can't wait to see what the world has to offer me. I can't wait to see what the universe shows me. Like just last night, I was cleaning out a cupboard, and I had been thinking about these little spell candles because I love the like witchy sort of, you know, pagan Celtic elements. That's something that's another realm that fascinates me.

I found this whole box of a hundred little spell candles that I had entirely forgotten. I was like, thank you passed me for leaving this little present for me. think I will just go have a lovely bath and light some candles and just have a little appreciation ceremony right now. Let's just bask in the satisfaction of look at past me and the great things that I did for me that I didn't even realize. You know, and you have to, you have to kind of clean out, you got to clean out that vibrational energetic closet of all the noise and the mess so that you can find those little pieces of abundance that you have left for yourself. You are the bad wolf. You create yourself and you have left wonderful treasure chests everywhere for you to find.

You just got to be open to stumbling on them. Yeah, I couldn't agree anymore. I'm so thankful for our conversation. I'm so thankful for the work that you're putting out there. And this is like our time is flown by so fast. I feel like we just barely stretch. I know. I know.

We could have a whole other two-hour podcast just, I could talk about this all day, every day. I absolutely good. Well, let's do more of them. Let's bring more people in and we'll do more of them together because I think that I really enjoy the conversation. Yes, please. Yes, please.

Oh, I'm all about it. Okay, well, before I let you go, before I let you go for today, can you please tell people, yes, just for this moment. Can you please tell people where they can find you, what you have coming up and what you're excited about? Oh, I'm excited about so many things. So I don't have my website entirely up and running yet. It's in the process of being built.

It's Frankie was here.com and it's going to have all my podcast stuff. But you can find Frankie's podcast network on YouTube and there's links there to all of my other shows that I do. You can see all of the podcasts that I am creating. I'm on Instagram, h. Overseth. I post a lot of the stuff that I'm doing on there. Go check me out on Instagram. And you know what?

If you want to find me on Facebook, Kaylee Overseth and come be my friend and chat with me. and if you have awesome, amazing things, you would like to co-create and collaborate and let's do it. I'm here for it. I'm about it. If we can study consciousness, if we can have writing, retreats and I am here to,

again, let the universe use me as a tool to do the things. I know I came here to do. And if you're excited about anything that I've been talking about, come and be my friend. I'm looking for you. I love it. Well, hang on, Haley. After, I'm going to hang up with people,

but hang on briefly. afterwards because I still want to talk to you about a couple of things. Yeah, absolutely. Thank you. Thank you so much for having me. This has been so much fun. I so appreciate everyone who's been watching and engaging and, oh, I just love this whole conversation and the energy here.

It's been wonderful and beautiful and I can't wait to see what the universe creates from it. It's going to be magic. It is going to be magic. Ryan, thank you. Everybody else who's in the comments and hanging out with us and everybody listening today. I hope you have a beautiful day. I hope you realize that you are the change that you want to see in the world. and do it people are out there trying to help know that we love you and that's all we got for

today ladies gentlemen aloha