TrueLife - Hawk - Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better

Episode Date: November 1, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Darkness struck, a gut-punched theft, Sun ripped away, her health bereft. I roar at the void. This ain't just fate, a cosmic scam I spit my hate. The games rigged tight, shadows deal, blood on their hands, I'll never kneel. Yet in the rage, a crack ignites, occulted sparks cut through the nights. The scars my key, hermetic and stark. To see, to rise, I hunt in the dark, fumbling, fear. Hears through ruins maze, lights my war cry, born from the blade.
Starting point is 00:00:49 The poem is Angels with Rifles. The track, I Am Sorrow, I Am Lust by Codex Seraphini. Check out the entire song at the end of the cast. I'm looking over. I'm like, I forgot to hit the button. Yeah. Now we are alive. Now we are alive.
Starting point is 00:01:12 Ladies and gentlemen. Welcome back to the True Life podcast. We're here with Hawk. We're getting into some ideas about the world we live in, healing, problems, love, faith, spirituality. Hawk, take it away, my friend. Okay. Yeah, we already had half the hour talking. Life is beautiful.
Starting point is 00:01:39 No, that is essence of my truth about life. Life is beautiful if we allow it to be. But it's so easy to let our chattering monkey minds get in the way. We all get, we are so, oh, I got to remember. I got to make more money. I got to get the house. I got to get a beautiful wife like my neighbor. I got to get this and that and all of the things that we crave.
Starting point is 00:02:11 And the cravings are just created often. just pigments or imagination. Because are they truly essential? Is it necessary? Is it necessary for me to drive a BMW rather than the Toyota I'm driving? It's not. It's really.
Starting point is 00:02:39 It's what we, we overcome replicate life. And just to be here right now, like Eckertrallah speaks about, to be in the moment. I'm standing here now in wintery, yeah, with my cute little dog. And I can feel that I am here right now.
Starting point is 00:03:16 I can hear the sounds of snow under my feet. I can see my dog looking for there are some deer around here. She wants to go and play with them in her own way. And I can sense the world. And it's really to be in that instead of being projected into the future or captured in the past with all the traumas and all the, oh, this happened and this happened and this happened. But to be right here, right now, it feels pretty good.
Starting point is 00:03:59 It's really, and that's what a lot of people talk about mindfulness. Right. It's easy. What should it be mindful of? I think all that to be mindful of is if, I think if you're healthy and you have your freedom, those are two of the greatest things that you can't begin with. but society leans on us. Society puts this web of ideas into our mind. And I think we've been conditioned from a very young age to not be happy with who we are for some reason. I don't thoroughly understand how that works, but it does seem to be a process. What do you think? Oh, yes. I mean, we are born with happiness. That is like a birthright.
Starting point is 00:04:54 If you, I have, maybe I'm a monk now, but I do have three kids. So I've been blessed with seeing the process. And you know when a child comes out and they're curious and they're open to everything. And they're, oh, wow, look at that. There's a snow, there's snow and there's some. Oh, yes. And then, and then something happens. Society strikes us, as you say, we get.
Starting point is 00:05:24 bowed down by demands you gotta be you gotta have many likes and follow us on Instagram and you gotta have this and that and and all of those non-essential things they just come down and it's like snow I got to watch myself by the way because there's a lot of snow here don't want to be buried under but but it's it's it's it's it's we are turned towards accentuating the negative. It's like, and it seems there's so many things in society. For instance, media, take a look at newspapers. Doom and Gloom.
Starting point is 00:06:12 That's what they focus on. Doom and gloom all the time. It's never, it's so rare that you see the media focusing on, on the beautiful moments, on all the good things that people do. There are so many people out there who are doing truly good things. If you are open to seeing it, but they are not the ones. We talk about horrible things happening, Palestine, Gaza, Israel, Ukraine, always accentuating the bad stuff.
Starting point is 00:06:53 And not saying, and I'm not talking about some, some, some, like, toxic positivity. People say, oh, should always be happy, you should always, oh, I can't stand it. I mean, I live in the world. See, it's a spectrum. There are, as we talked about, there are beautiful people. There are people who are truly lighting up the world and there are what I call parasites. People are only in it for, what's it in it for me?
Starting point is 00:07:34 Greed, greed, greed. I want to get more. And I think that's, it's sad also that, you know, those people tend to be lifted up. Oh, look at him. He's managed to have massive fortune of 20 billion, whatever. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:59 So, he's got a huge bank account. Is that like the epithome of human accomplishment? There should be more impressive things you can do with your left than to...
Starting point is 00:08:20 It's like... Let's talk about Elon Musk. Right. I mean, he's a brilliant guy. No doubt about it. And he's done some amazing things. But people seem to think that because he has managed to do what he's done, he has some guru status.
Starting point is 00:08:46 He should have some guru status. When he talks about, for instance, he talked about AI and away. awakening AI. And we got to listen. Yeah, we got to pause the development. Because Elon Musk said so. I think Elon Musk has watched too many Terminator movies. Because he's in the darkness of AI. I mean, AI can be a force, a positive force. They can help us a lot. Do you think that that's like, it seems that humankind, like we look for the strong person. On some level, there's so many people that look for a leader that want to tell them what to do. Maybe that's the default mode network of people or something, or a lot of people are scared or something.
Starting point is 00:09:34 But just because you're good at one thing doesn't mean you're good at everything. But people want to be told what to do on some level it seems like to me. I don't know. Is that true? What do you think? Yeah, I think so. I used to live in a cult. The last year when I lived in Sweden, I lived in a cult, I was considered.
Starting point is 00:09:53 one of the five most dangerous ones in Sweden. And that was quite interesting. They had a leader. Yeah, they had a leader. An old guy, 85 or something, he came from Norway, Halstine. And he was like he couldn't do anything wrong. If he said something that was incorrect,
Starting point is 00:10:18 we're not allowed to say something about it. And I'm like, I don't like. I am so opposed to anybody telling me my truth. Right. So we did have some talks. And we were, it was like very much, you know, 1984. We were not allowed or not, they were not, I should say, allowed to use the word I.
Starting point is 00:10:50 and absolute and lots of words that were not they talked about this one instead of I for instance and I
Starting point is 00:11:05 used I all the time and not very popular always and I was quite in a position but after what I saw was All, the whole system was built to create wealth and security for the leader.
Starting point is 00:11:28 It was supposed to be called a teacher. He's, in the cult, he's close to Jesus. And I disagreed. And I saw that the way they were treating people, that was not okay. They were truly abusing people. among others, an elderly gentleman who lived there, he lived there for 40 years. And he had a lot of somatic problems and also psychiatric problems. And he had to work.
Starting point is 00:12:03 So I try telling them, you know, you've got to change your ways. You can't mistreat people like this. At least not when I'm around. And they didn't listen. And I tried telling them several times. Still didn't listen. So then I decided, okay, I got to do something about it. So first, I got in touch with social services and the police.
Starting point is 00:12:29 And his doctor told him what was happening. And then I contacted a newspaper called Yetaberg's Posten, pretty huge newspaper. And they left, when I left a left, when I left, cult. I had a huge journalist who was documenting and I had met them before. So it was a four article series in Newtabosstam about the cult. And you know, those close societies, what they hate more than anything that is being put in the spotlight. So it's, you know, I, I'm not a fond, I'm not very fond of gurus. And then we have, you have our, you know, Chamondurek, who's
Starting point is 00:13:18 about to be married to to our princess Marta Louisa he talks about be your own damn guru you know
Starting point is 00:13:30 you got to find what's in you that is what matters I can tell you George you need this and that because you know it but you just got to remember it
Starting point is 00:13:45 and that is yeah Go ahead. Only you can solve your problems. You can look to other people as a like. You can look at someone who may have been on a similar path, and you can take advice. But you and you alone get to control the meaning of your life, and that allows you to solve the problem.
Starting point is 00:14:05 And that's both the beauty and tragedy of life, as it weighs on you. Can you do it? You can. If you believe you can or whether you believe you can't. Either way, you're right. Exactly. It's just the same as with healing. I've been told that I have warm hands
Starting point is 00:14:24 and I've been a healer since birth is what I've heard but but still it's I can be an inspiration I can help inspire your body to remember this amazing ability to heal itself yeah you have a system to fight cancer cells you had a fit system to fight, just get a wound. It'll be fixed.
Starting point is 00:14:53 You know, you don't have to think about it, but it seems that once we reach a certain level of complexity or, yeah, for instance, cancer, then you've got to find something external to fix it. But the power is a new, and of course, you also get help from science. I mean, I'm not telling people to stop using the treatments. I do believe that the intersection between modern science and the ancient healing arts, that is the most powerful we can have.
Starting point is 00:15:33 We need both. It's not as a choose one. But it's the people, I do believe people crave somebody who can tell. tell them and why do we need somebody to tell us how to live our lives? I guess it's something about then you also have to take responsibility for your circumstances. It's all up to you. If you're miserable, if you don't adhere to some guru or something, it's on you. And of course, it does also have things to do with your environment. I mean, I worked more than 20 years in social work with some of the most first people exist in Norway.
Starting point is 00:16:32 I'm not saying that we are, I don't believe that kids ask for to be abused by the parents, for instance. It's not something like that. we are also put in difficult circumstances. And then we may need, well, belief in something higher. Whether it's Madagaya or God or Allah or Krishna or Jave or Ganesha, I think it's good sometimes to sort of surrender to that there is something higher. Yeah. But you've got to find it yourself.
Starting point is 00:17:19 So once you are, somebody pushes you to, like if you're born into some congregation or something and you're pushed, then then it's, I don't think that's good. It's beneficial. You've got to be inspired yourself. Yeah. It's in all, it's in all the, like I'm a big fan of mythology, you know, and when I read, you know, and when I read, like the Iliad or the Odyssey or even Star Wars. You can see this idea of, you know, in life, you get to this point where you can't go any further and you meet a threshold guardian or you find your way on the path. But that's part of it. Part of life is getting to a point where
Starting point is 00:18:04 you fail miserably. And now what are you going to do? Right? I hope it happens to everybody. And I hope everybody has the courage to get in the face of that thing that you just spies and say never again. I'm not doing this anymore. Damn the consequences. I'm going to make this thing happen. I don't know how yet. I'm going to figure it out and I'm going to do it. Because I think that's where the power lies. That's where your connection to spirituality really begins to be connected. It's this belief in yourself and faith in something bigger than you. What do you think? Oh, I fully agree. What can I say? It was a guy.
Starting point is 00:18:44 called Debrowski is a Polish psychologist and psychiatrist. He talked about having to go through different psychiatric or not psychiatric but crisis in order to rise up in this virtual way and I think that's that's so true and some of the strongest people I met are those who have faced most problems and managed to just I'm going to claw my way I'm not going to be here but they need sometimes they need inspiration yeah and I've been yeah we we truly do and I've been blessed with no 22 years of social work sometimes I had the blessing of being able to stand by somebody's side and saying you know it's okay to be not okay but you will get there sometime in soon you just need to see the small changes to see that okay you're here now
Starting point is 00:19:53 you're at the bottom how much does it take to just get this much above the bottom and and often it's you know we we talk about being trauma sensitive and there's a lot of focus on trauma i think it's just as much about being focused to focus on the light. Like when I work with people, I say, okay, your father did this, your mother did this, you weren't seen, okay. Have you ever been in love? Like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Okay, well, how did it feel the first time you saw that person? You see this light, shines up. That's beautiful. Yeah, good. And if they have kids, like, okay, tell me about the first time you saw your child. And this is the potential within you, something I often say.
Starting point is 00:21:01 This is also within you. You have all the traumas, and you can think of them like this big black blob, but you also have the light. You have the potential to feel good. You have been there before. You have, and you can go there again. And you can choose more of it. But it's a choice. You have to choose your path.
Starting point is 00:21:27 You can't just keep on just stumbling blindly along, going in the same direction. For instance, if you're using drugs, you can't continue shooting up here and expecting to have a fulfilling life. because that will be, that will destroy your life. Same as with antipsychotics. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:53 All the other mind, not being zombie drugs, that won't create a good life. You have to create a good life. And that's the responsibility. And that's, I think, to get back to your question, that is why people need a guru. They feel that they need some authority, that they can place the fate in,
Starting point is 00:22:17 that they can give responsibility. But the responsibility in my book resides here. Yeah, I heard it put one time something along the lines of, in life, if you do what is easy, your life will be hard. But if you do what is hard, your life will be easy. And if you take that time to like, a lot of people don't like confrontation. It's uncomfortable. You can get hurt.
Starting point is 00:22:49 But the truth is life is confrontation. And if you can understand that it's not easy and that it is confrontation. And on some level, you can learn to embrace that confrontation. And there's consequences. And it's hard. You lose people you love. You can lose the things you love. you have, but ultimately, I think you're building your character, you're building you.
Starting point is 00:23:16 So maybe those things that fall away weren't meant to last if they fall away in confrontation. But that's hard for people to understand. It's very difficult to get to that point. People don't want to lose the things they have. They don't want to lose the one they love. Maybe it's just a different, it's a mind shift. Maybe some people are born that way. Or they got to learn.
Starting point is 00:23:34 I don't know, man. Well, to use an example, when I first met, Nassir. Nice. When I first met her, she's an adoptee, she's been in two families. She's been severely traumatized, as far as I can see. And she also, she's like a huge Malinois, strong, like she can lift me. I mean, she's 34 kilos and she could lift me. But when we first met, I was sitting at the adoption center in the kitchen.
Starting point is 00:24:10 And she came running in. And she did a little circling and checked the perimeter. And then she came over to me. And I put my hand on her neck and I heard, and I knew this is a defining moment. Because you know, with the Malinot, they are like the toughest dogs ever. And she could kill me easily.
Starting point is 00:24:36 And she's also trained for protection and stuff. So I had to just confront her. Took her, put it down on the floor and held her. And she tried to bite me and she tried to bite me. And then she relaxed. And then we went for a walk for an hour. And since then we've been together. And we still fight.
Starting point is 00:25:02 We still have the fights. But we needed to go through that confrontation. because I had to show her I wasn't fearful of her. I was unlike most of the other people who she had met. I didn't have any fear of her hurting me, none at all. And I had to prove that to her because she is used to using her strength and big teeth to control the environment. But she can't control me.
Starting point is 00:25:40 And yeah, I think it's, it's fear is truly the mind killer. And that's what we're seeing in the world today. Yeah, I agree. I think it's, it's something that paralyzes people. And it shuts down higher cognitive function. It puts you into this idea of fight or flight. And when you, when you're in this moment of fear, you're easily controllable. You're scared.
Starting point is 00:26:07 You know, it's conditioned into us. Pavlov, look at Pavlov, right? the same way he used bells and whistles. Yeah. And as to see it in the human population, take a look at the media. Well said. That's Paul Lovostogs.
Starting point is 00:26:27 We allow it. Many people allow it. We are being led. We are being amosled. We are truly being manipulated. And those men, Those who manipulate it, they are good at the job. Of course.
Starting point is 00:26:47 Yeah, they're very good. They're great spin doctors. I think I find it sad that people go into this collective fight-of-flight mode. I mean, I'd rather be a shepherd than a sheep, very much so. And I don't get why so many people seem to choose to be sheep. I think they listen to the message. You know, I think that it happens at an early age, at least in the West. You know, we were given the Prussian model of school where you stand and you sit in front of an authoritarian figure and you're taught to respect authority.
Starting point is 00:27:38 Don't ask questions. Raise your hand. Ask for permission. And you do that to somebody for 10, 12, 15. some kids go to college for 25 years and they haven't even been out in the world. You know, and you, what do you know? You don't know anything. You've essentially been pushed into this dark room and fed enough to keep you happy.
Starting point is 00:27:59 And yeah, I think it's fear. I really think, you know, I guess I can't speak for everybody, but I can speak to me when I broke. You know, I was a UPS driver for 26 years. And I loved it. I love being out there and talking. to people, but something happened at a point where I realized
Starting point is 00:28:21 I didn't like the way I was being treated. I didn't like the way everyone around me was being treated. And I thought to myself how come no one's standing up? And immediately I said how come I'm not standing up. You know, how come I'm not standing up? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:37 And then I think of Gandhi. Like if you want be the change you want to see in the world. And as soon as you do that, as soon as you become this, I think the world is talking to us. Like if you see this problem of fear, the world's telling you to stand up. If you see, whatever you see in the world, the world's telling you this is a problem. I need your help on it.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Go fix it. And when you start doing that, the world begins to unfold in front of you in ways you can't imagine. For me, it was seeing all these people that were afraid. And I'm like, someone's got to stick up. Someone's got to do it. I'll do it. And with that comes consequence, what that comes losing your job, with that comes losing your finances.
Starting point is 00:29:12 But it's not so much losing something. as it is gaining something for yourself. Yeah, you're losing that old version of yourself, and now you're becoming a person that other people can rely on. You know, so I don't know, is that, does that answer the question at all as to what's happening or why people might be afraid or conditioning again? I think that's beautiful to it, George.
Starting point is 00:29:38 To me, to make a parallel, I became a monk four years ago. Okay. And I love women, but still I'm a celibate monk. And that was a huge change. And it does create some tension at times, but still, what it does allow me is to meet people, not as sexual beings, not as gender and kids or whatever. it allows me to meet people and and and that that is really that is a blessing it's but but
Starting point is 00:30:26 it feels it's it feels strange at times you know because we live in an overly sexualized world yes yes absolutely everything is about sex it seems and it's but to me it's you know it seems that we've sort of forgotten we've gone into this weird thing where sex is it's just like with money money has become
Starting point is 00:31:01 the target, the object itself you have to get money but money is I mean it's just paper blips in a computer it's what money allows us to do that is what's important and to me it's just the same with sexuality you know the connection between man women or whomever you're chosen what path you are on
Starting point is 00:31:32 that is beautiful but to make sexuality itself something like oh we got to have it in all the commercials and everything is all over everywhere that I don't get. Yeah. It's really, it's, yeah, but I kind of look forward to once in somewhere, time in the future to meet someone and to beat together. but then having had this pause from something so primal, I think that that allows me to go into a relationship with a different mindset. Do you believe that?
Starting point is 00:32:29 Yeah, I think sexual energy is creative energy. And that might speak to why there is such a lack of true imagination in the world. Everybody's too busy jacking off or like. Got a bit, Janien. Yeah, it's very true. I've gone through some Kundalini awakenings in my life. And that is like, then you truly feel the amazing power of energy, life energy. You know, it's when it burns through and clears out all your chakras, you are like,
Starting point is 00:33:13 like wow you're flowing with it it is amazing it's I also as part of my own process I've done some ayahuasca and mother yeah that was amazing tell us about the experience how do you don't mind yeah it was it was incredible it was to see energies to like I remember I was sitting we This was, I got to add that, I don't recommend anybody to do ayahuasca because it is the toughest therapy you can ever imagine. It's like being kicked in the balls and the stomach and the face at the same time. So it's not something to play around with. I did it in a sacred circle with people from the Amazon who are truly, you know, they were born into working like that. So they're shamans and healers.
Starting point is 00:34:19 But we were sitting in a circle and I closed my eyes. And I saw from there was one person sitting there. We didn't have a light coming out of their crown chakra. But all the others had a light and it just came together and it pushed up straight up. It was so amazing. light. It was like brilliant white, white, bit yellowish. It was how it was so beautiful. And it's truly I sat and opened my eyes and closed my eyes and I saw that everybody, except this one person, had this amazing light. And that gave me toss, you know, to the collective and conscience and the Karshik records and all of that of us being a part of the web. life. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:16 It was great. But it's been tough. It's, as I said, but it's given me so
Starting point is 00:35:26 many insights. I've been given some tasks that I'm not going to talk about in the circles. They're related to me.
Starting point is 00:35:41 My part as a warrior. And I cried so many tears. You know, but also it's, I used to have another dog than Nessie. And he was one of the few dogs that were allowed to come into the circle. And that was fascinating, you know, usually when you do ayahuasca you purge, you vomit. You vomit. And I've never done it.
Starting point is 00:36:17 But at one time, when he was sitting beside me, he started, so he had to take him outside because he needed to purge. So he sort of did it for me. It was incredible. He was, yeah. I think that people, what Waiyoska does, it does shift us, our perspective. It shifts us into a different mode and different frequency. And that's necessary because it opens the possibility that this life is more than what we can see.
Starting point is 00:37:02 Yeah. And it truly is. Maybe that's what gives people the courage to live their own life is to understand that this life is more than you can see. Because a lot of the times courage comes from faith and faith can come from spirituality. And at times, especially now, it seems like there's a lack of faith or spirituality, at least in the West. You know, and when you're talking about ayahuasca, you're talking about rituals. You're talking about ceremonies. You're talking about rites of passage.
Starting point is 00:37:33 And some of those seem to be absent in the Western world. Yeah, we are losing faith. We're projecting it into fate in our soccer teams or whatever. Yeah. It's like there you can find. your group, but I don't know, I think we do need, like one of the reasons, I'm pretty tough. You know, if something, that's part of having worked the way I've had for so many years. I'm pretty confident in my own abilities.
Starting point is 00:38:13 And if I'm in a confrontation, for instance, then I know I can manage it. What gives me most courage is that I'm not afraid to die. I know that there is more than this life. I'm fully aware of it. So I mean, how can you fight someone who isn't afraid to die? That's kind of a challenge. Yeah. I know that a lot of people are afraid to die
Starting point is 00:38:55 because of the uncertainty. And of course, that, as you say, as losing fate, then you also lose the certainty of, or the possibility there might be something more. And that creates fear. It's probably easier when everybody believed everybody was either Christian or, let's say, more of Jane or Hindu or whatever.
Starting point is 00:39:25 Then you had the fate. But now we don't. But I also think it's good because it allows people to find their own way. If you're led by a preacher or somebody and they tell you something, you got to do this, you got to do that. I don't think that's a good way to live life either. I think it's a, we should. find their own thoughts.
Starting point is 00:40:01 I'm reminded of the the grail quest by King Arthur in mythology. And there was a certain quest where they were sitting down to this magnificent dinner and the grail appeared before them. And they said, let's go have it. Let's go, this is a sign. We should go look for the grail. And so they all go into the forest.
Starting point is 00:40:19 But each night enters the forest at the darkest place for them where there's no pathway cut. Right. And in some ways that's finding, your own faith. It's going into the darkest part and conquering it and understanding that it's you. You are there. There's people that love you and there's people that will help you, but you and you alone have the ability to give your life meaning, and that's faith. Yeah. And exactly, exactly. You've got to find your own meaning. I can't tell you. You can, And I'm not saying that you can't be inspired.
Starting point is 00:41:00 I mean, I started reading the Bible when I was four, and I read a lot of the Holy Scriptures and books. And I've been very much inspired by Neil Dallon Walsh, for instance, whom I had, I mean, this group he has were weekly Zoom calls. You know, there are so many people you can be inspired by. But once, if they start telling you, this is how you should live your life, then it's important, I think, to take a step back and say, okay, this is, I think that is how you should live your life. But I'm allowed to choose differently. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. I've got to get ready to, I'm going to go to my member of this virtualist church in.
Starting point is 00:41:59 in Norway, I'm going to drive to Oslo to do some healing. Fantastic. Well, Hawk, I, thank you. I thoroughly enjoyed the conversation. And I love learning and listening and getting to hang out with really interesting people for some time. And I'm thankful for your time. Yeah. I got that one thing. Yeah, please. That has been my best support. I'm a musician
Starting point is 00:42:28 That's why I use my artist's name I mentioned To music that has been my savior You know In so many ways I started learning music When I was Five I think Then
Starting point is 00:42:51 I got a question there Yeah He says Can you ask Hawk to speak on the power of ancestral archetypes? Yeah. I don't have time for that. I have in the, that was what I really, I didn't really want to talk about it,
Starting point is 00:43:13 but I can anyway. When I was in the Ayasca ceremony, then I met some of the archetypes. No, I met the Amazon warrior. I met the mother, I met the crone, I met the father, I met a lot of those and it was so strong
Starting point is 00:43:37 and it was really, I know there were people who were they were they looked like their archetypes, but then they changed into it fully and it was so, so amazing. We did this
Starting point is 00:43:55 dance, we were dancing and to know I think it's so important for everybody to see who am I I mean Jung's archetypes they are amazing tools for self-discovery
Starting point is 00:44:13 truly they they speak so loudly and also but also to see that we can change you can be a warrior for instance, but then you can shift your alignment and go into, okay, no, I want to be more of a mother. No, I want to bring out my nurturing side.
Starting point is 00:44:44 Like, it's just like when I talk with my dog, I talk in a different way than when I talk with my daughter. You know, and to truly use those, that tool. to shift. And it's, it's, yeah, I love Jung. I have some, I have some really, like, Alge So Young, um, Vilni Brech, it's amazing. And there are so many people you can, can learn from. And also to, as I'm a holistic healer in, in, in Norway, and what the way is, and what what we do is we channel our help us we do our best
Starting point is 00:45:33 to become an open vessel for and those are who we channel them they are often archetypes I have my mother who passed some years ago but I also have others who
Starting point is 00:45:48 are like behind me and helping me yeah and when you because there's something so pure about archetypes is so clean cut. And that is something I think we all can learn from. How can you develop whatever you want to be?
Starting point is 00:46:10 Do you want to be a warrior? Do you want to be a mother? Do you want to be a lover? Do you want to be a fool? You have all this potentiality. What do you want to be? What do you want to be today? today I build a healer that's my choice
Starting point is 00:46:30 that's awesome I hope that answered your question magic Michael where can people find you like I know I put some links down below in the show notes but yeah is there a specific spot you want people to go to well LinkedIn is my main I am all over
Starting point is 00:46:54 nice I'm all over if you search for M ancient or my full name, but you can go to Mancient.com or Mancient.1. Those are like two of my sites. And then you find contact information for, I do have a huge network on various services. But find me on mostly Spotify, Apple Music, Am Ancient.
Starting point is 00:47:25 Fantastic. Well, I appreciate your time today. I'll send you copies of all this and I'll hang up with the people here. I'll let you get to doing what you do best. I appreciate your time. I hope you have a beautiful day. You too. Hi, brother.
Starting point is 00:47:37 Okay. Love it.

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