TrueLife - Kamau Z Akabueze - THE ALiEN SCõÖL

Episode Date: March 9, 2024

One on One Video Call W/George https://tidycal.com/georgepmonty/60-minute-meetingSupport the show:https://www.paypal.me/Truelifepodcast?locale.x=en_US🚨🚨Curious about the future of psych...edelics? Imagine if Alan Watts started a secret society with Ram Dass and Hunter S. Thompson… now open the door. Use Promocode TRUELIFE for Get 25% off monthly or 30% off the annual plan For the first yearhttps://www.district216.com/Introducing Kamau Z Akabueze, affectionately known as KzA, a luminary in the realms of abstract strategy, innovative thinking, and visionary leadership. As an Abstract Strategist, Innovationist, and Visionary Thinker, Kamau embodies the essence of organic intelligence, driven by a passion for transformative growth and creative exploration.With over 25 years of career milestones, Kamau’s journey is a tapestry woven with threads of brand identity craftsmanship, thoughtful communications fabrication, and expressive experiential strategy. His approach to personal and commercial brand growth seamlessly merges analytical rigor with creative flair, ensuring that every strategy not only delivers results but resonates vibrantly.A global citizen whose impact transcends continents and industries, Kamau has left an indelible mark on top-tier companies worldwide. His insights are not merely solutions to problems; they are catalysts for paradigm shifts, transforming perceptions and opening new realms of possibility.But Kamau’s mission extends beyond corporate boardrooms; he is a mentor, a guide, and the visionary founder of THE ALiEN SCõÖL for Creative Thinking. Through this platform, he dedicates himself to empowering individuals to uncover their unique genius and nurture their creative talents, igniting a journey of professional and personal adventure.Join Kamau on LinkedIn, where he shares insights, experiences, and stories from his transformative journey. Whether you’re a fellow creative, a budding entrepreneur, or simply passionate about personal growth, Kamau invites you to explore the extraordinary possibilities that await when minds meet and dreams take flight.https://thealienschool.com/http://linkedin.com/in/thekza One on One Video call W/George https://tidycal.com/georgepmonty/60-minute-meetingSupport the show:https://www.paypal.me/Truelifepodcast?locale.x=en_USCheck out our YouTube:https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPzfOaFtA1hF8UhnuvOQnTgKcIYPI9Ni9&si=Jgg9ATGwzhzdmjkg

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Darkness struck, a gut-punched theft, Sun ripped away, her health bereft. I roar at the void. This ain't just fate, a cosmic scam I spit my hate. The games rigged tight, shadows deal, blood on their hands, I'll never kneel. Yet in the rage, a crack ignites, occulted sparks cut through the nights. The scars my key, hermetic and stark. To see, to rise, I hunt in the dark, fumbling, fear, Fearist through ruins maze, lights my war cry, born from the blaze.
Starting point is 00:00:49 The poem is Angels with Rifles. The track, I Am Sorrow, I Am Lust by Codex Seraphini. Check out the entire song at the end of the cast. Ladies and gentlemen, from the bottom of my heart, I hope everyone is having a beautiful day. I hope the week was beautiful. I hope you got to wake up in the arms of the person you love, or at least you woke up from a dream. You woke up from a dream where you were holding a maybe. You know what?
Starting point is 00:01:18 I'm going to hope you're thinking about great things, and I hope you realize that your future is about to blossom, like a beautiful flower, and the world's going to throw you some love. So I want to welcome everybody to today's show. I have an incredible guest for you. I want to introduce the incredible, strategic, innovative, Kamau Akabweze, affectionately known as KZA.
Starting point is 00:01:41 He's a luminary in the realms of abstract strategy, innovative thinking and visionary leadership, leadership, leadership. And as an abstract strategist, innovatist, and visionary thinker, Kamao embodies the essence of organic intelligence, driven by a passion for transformative growth and creative exploration. With over 25 years of career milestones, Kamau's journey is a tapestry woven with threads of brand identity craftsmanship, thoughtful communications, fabrication, and expressive experiential strategy.
Starting point is 00:02:11 His approach to personal and commercial brand growth seamlessly merge his analytical rigor with creative flare, ensuring that every strategy not only delivers results but resonates vibrantly. A global citizen whose impact transcends continents and industries, Camajo has left an indelible mark on the top tier companies worldwide. His insights are not merely solutions to problems. They are catalysts for paradigm shifts, transforming perceptions and opening new realms of possibility. Well, Kamala's mission extends beyond corporate boardrooms. He is a mentor, a guide, and the visionary founder of the Alien School for Creative Thinking. Through this platform, he dedicates himself to empowering individuals to uncover their unique genius and nurture their creative talents, igniting a journey of professional and personal adventure. Kamala, thank you very much for being here today.
Starting point is 00:02:59 How's it going? It is going great. It's going great. Thank you much for that introduction. It's a beautiful day. Just got back from an awesome walk. and to walk into this reflection of myself already just feels great. So I deeply appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Yeah, man. Shout out to Joaquin for putting this together. Joaquin, thank you very much, man. You're an awesome guy. We're still going to be here. The swarm. We're part of the swarm. Unstoppable, man.
Starting point is 00:03:27 I love the idea of the swarm. Indeed. How are you? I'm very well. Thank you very much. You know, I feel really blessed to have, an incredible relationship with the people I love, you know, and it's, it's, I think we live in fascinating times. And when fascinating times arise, there's lots of opportunity. And I, I think that
Starting point is 00:03:48 right now there's never been a better time for a creative mind to thrive, man. I was hoping you could shed some light on that, man. Maybe you give a little bit of background on what you're doing, the idea of creativity, aliens, wherever you want to start at, man. Yeah, wow. I mean, that notion that you just talked about, this, this environment that we're in, right? right now for the creative mind. There's so many incredible tools, incredible outlets, incredible opportunities, and we created such a wide world of inspiration for each other
Starting point is 00:04:27 to create a pump. I think the way that we inspire each other now and the ways that we can inspire each other now to think about ourselves creatively, is exponential to what the world has offered to this point. And as much as there are the challenges of social access and the media that we're socializing through, when you curate the algorithm versus allowing the algorithm
Starting point is 00:05:03 to curate you, there is a wide world of opportunity and inspiration for any creative mind to find a place to be, to be in this world, like, beautifully. So I appreciate that recognition of the moment that we're in. Yeah, it's interesting. When I talk to my daughter, you know, she's in fourth grade. And much like all kids in elementary school, there's this sort of idea that battles in between the minds of parents.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Like, should you let them be on the internet? Should you let them to have the stuff or should you not? One strategy that we have used is, and I think this applies to myself and everybody listening, is that it's good to consume things that you like, but try to create things. And I think that that speaks to this idea that you were talking about, getting the momentum of creativity going.
Starting point is 00:05:54 When you begin creating, it builds momentum. And all of a sudden you realize these skills that you, it's like having another hand. And all of a sudden you can build these other things, man. Maybe you could speak to that a little bit. Yes, indeed. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. So I guess I'll start with the alien school. Because that's really at the crux of where I am right now. And that whole career journey brought me to a point of understanding very clearly that as creative beings, all of us, every single one of us. As creative beings, we have such a significant way to go in our recognition of who we are.
Starting point is 00:06:36 And a lot of the challenge in that recognition of how profound we are, each and every one of us as creators, is this tension that sits between our purpose and our passions and our potential. But that alienation, that feeling of alienation, that feeling of disconnection from a purpose, from our values from a sense of contribution to the world that starts to bubble up in all of us, I think at some point, some late in life, some early in life, is a boundary that we have the ability to collectively break through and to see each other a lot more holistically, to see the creative value that we can offer each other much more holistically, and to see creativity as something more than a profession and more than an art, but a opportunity in our everyday lives, in our relationships, you know, the environment that we can create in our
Starting point is 00:07:50 relationships, the environment that we create in our homes for learning and growth, the environment that we create in our workplaces for great relationships and collaboration. There's such significant creative opportunities worked in every part of our life. And the Alien School was really born from my recognition of that to offer those who are interested in opportunity to see creativity through a whole different lens and expand on the scope of creative opportunity beyond the professional, beyond the artistic, and almost become creative directors in our lives in some really beautiful ways.
Starting point is 00:08:31 I love it. I love the message of that. And how did you get there, though? Like when I hear terms like boundaries, you know, like, yes. Sometimes I've learned in my life that this thing that is like the obstacle is the way. And when you bump up against this boundary, it can be really frustrating. It can make you angry.
Starting point is 00:08:50 It can really piss you off in so many ways. But the way you described it is like understanding and pushing and moving and poking that boundary is a way you can discover your own creation. Man, how did you get there? Like, that's a huge thing to not only get to and understand, but to move through, man. How did you do that? I appreciate you asking. It was a long journey, right?
Starting point is 00:09:15 I got the grades to show it. Oh, I hear you, man. Me too. It was a long journey. However, it was a beautiful journey. And how I got there was the recognition of the journey. True. It sounds simplified, but it was the recognition of the journey.
Starting point is 00:09:29 So at a certain point in my career, after spending about 25 years in advertising, I was at a point where I could really see what my career had brought me to. I could see the heights that I wanted to reach. I could see the opportunities that I wanted to create. I could see it all having played out in interesting ways. And the fact that I got to exactly where I wanted to be
Starting point is 00:09:57 making the exact kind of money that I wanted to make was a really interesting case of long-term manifestation on my part. I could see it. I kind of claimed it at a certain point. I knew where I wanted to be. When I got there, when I got there, is when all of the lessons came at the same time. Because I was inside of an organization
Starting point is 00:10:23 that had great opportunity for some real significant work. collaboration, I mean, the kind of talent that I was working with and working around, I was inspired every single day. At the same time, those same people that I was inspired by were coming to me on a regular basis and noting how much they were not exactly living out their gift, meaning they had come to the company to offer the best of what they had to offer. But because the company was in the situation that I was in, structurally, they ended up in positions doing work that really was not aligned with any of their talent or why they interviewed even to come to the company. And that was a repeated conversation that I was having over and over again.
Starting point is 00:11:23 And then I realized that that was a repeated conversation that I had had over and over again throughout the course of my career. There were some people who were in great positions. They were doing exactly what they wanted to do. But the majority of dialogue I had was about how to reorient the place so that the talent could actually create the kind of opportunities for the company that they thought they were hired to create. And that gap was very clear to me that what I had done over my years was fine ways for all. all those people to do the kind of work that they wanted to do. And I had created a pathway to show myself what I actually do. So it wasn't about the brands and the companies,
Starting point is 00:12:12 even though I did great work with different brands and companies. What I really did was to work with the people. And that work became very meaningful for me to recognize because I was wondering where my own value was. And I recognized at that point that, that even though I got the title that I wanted and I got the money that I wanted, I was alienated from the purpose that I served. And in that moment, I was able to recognize my own purpose as a creative catalyst,
Starting point is 00:12:45 as somebody who could see the beauty and the genius and the talent and found ways to help them to reach some heights, either through a reconnection with their own confidence or with a reconnection with the kind of work that they wanted to be doing. And then to see them blossom after that, to be in a position to be recognized for their talent, to go on and start other companies that would go on to be very successful. I could truly see clearly where my value and my purpose was. I was just serving it for other entities.
Starting point is 00:13:30 It's so amazing to get to hear a true breakdown of relationships from different points of view. And I think that that is, I've noticed this thread that runs through a lot of the interesting people I've talked to. And it's one that I see here is this ability to not only do the work you're doing, but to understand the meaning inside the work you're doing, regardless of where you work at. You know, you are doing or you can do or you have the ability to do very meaningful things. And that I think is where, like I get goosebumps when I think about that. I know so many people that wake up and hate what they do or they go to this job and
Starting point is 00:14:12 there's misplaced anger and like there's tons of reasons for it. I'm not saying I've done it too. But there is ways to find meaning in the thing you're doing. And when you do that, I feel like you find that divine spark in yourself. It sounds like that. It's beautiful, man. Like, did you feel when you were doing that, that it was a reflection of the path that you've been on? or what was that insight?
Starting point is 00:14:35 Because it almost sounds like you saw like a third person point of view of yourself doing this thing, man. I mean, it's what is known as passenger consciousness. I've never heard about this. Break this down for me, man. All right. This is, it's a tough one. Okay. Passenger consciousness is a tough one because it requires you to see all of what you do.
Starting point is 00:15:05 all. You got to shine the light everywhere. You have to shine the light everywhere and know that that light that you're shining is your purpose. To know yourself, to know what you do and to know the effect that you have on others is each of our purpose
Starting point is 00:15:30 because that effect is the only thing that we own. That influence. that we have on others, that is truly ours. No one else has that. What you do for others, there is not another human on the planet who does for others what you do. Through your unique lens, your unique vantage point, your dimension of the universe is a super unique vantage point.
Starting point is 00:16:03 And when you can elevate up and watch yourself, and watch what you're doing and see what you are, how you are operating in the world, you become the passenger of your awareness. And being a passenger to your awareness is a beautiful opportunity because even things that you, the challenging behaviors that you may have been offering to the world are still a part of your journey and a part of who you are and who you've been and your recognition. of all the ways that those behaviors have impacted you and others. It just shifts you from a fixed mindset,
Starting point is 00:16:53 like almost like an opinion-oriented mindset, to one that is actually welcoming other people's vantage points into who you are. One of the most significant moments that I reached was when someone I was dating and who I was not, who I was not treating well, was saying some things to me about who she thought that I was, and I recognized that I was not those words. I'm not those words.
Starting point is 00:17:25 You had to really recognize that. I know what I've done, but I am not those words. And that took me on a whole adventure into myself to understand why I was being called something that I know that I'm not, even though I did what I did. and that acceptance, not recognition was a whole frame shift in my life and allowed me to step into the passenger side of my experience and dualistically have a relationship with who I am and what I do. Man.
Starting point is 00:18:04 That's why I mean. It's not easy work. It's not light work, but it is light work. it's so it's I'm beginning to understand the reason why it's called the alien school on some level, you know, seeing yourself for the first time is alien.
Starting point is 00:18:30 There's another level. It's very alienating. You know what I mean to see yourself? I start pinpointing these, these behaviors you've had all your life, but you've never been aware of. It's like this, who is this person?
Starting point is 00:18:42 Do I, have I been that person my whole life? Holy cow, I have. You know, it's like the UFO, man. Like, I see it for the first time. See it for the first time. It is. You are the unidentified flying object until you identify yourself.
Starting point is 00:18:58 That should be a t-shirt. That is amazing. But that identification process, that identification process is really a beautiful journey for folks who are willing to. lean into it. But the reason I started the alien school specifically is to your point. It is not easy. It's not easy when you start to awaken to your truth, the truth of who you've been, and the truth of who you have the potential to be. A little bit of handholding is valuable there, some instructions, some ways to navigate through that experience and to understand that this is an experiential journey.
Starting point is 00:19:45 And the only way to know your progress is to experience yourself in the world, progressing, listening to how the world is responding to that progression and seeing the opportunities that are coming to you as a result of the progress that you're making in your awareness of yourself. And there's a big collaboration that happens between myself and the scholarship. to come into the school and organizations that I work with because it's a significant exchange of truth. I am exactly who I am, and the situation that I'm walking into with a student, a scholar, with an organization is exactly what it is.
Starting point is 00:20:28 I can bring my opinions from previous environments, or I could just look at truth. and when the parties on the other end are willing to accept the truth, it is revolutionary. It's revolutionary. I admire the, I hear different ways in which you're interpreting language. In the beginning, or just a moment ago, you spoke about this relationship with language where people were using these words that weren't you. You also have this just recently talking about,
Starting point is 00:21:07 seeing truths instead of opinions. But it seems like you have a like a very deep understanding of language. And I'm wondering if you can elaborate on this language that you have with the environment. You know, you said that when you walk into the environment, like the opportunities that come your way are speaking to you. Maybe you could like flesh that out a little bit.
Starting point is 00:21:30 I agree with it, but I'm very curious about it. I'll put it through a lens of something that we all kind of talk about. or feel or fear in karma right the notion of karma is a we understand it as a retributive action like if we do something negative then something negative is going to happen to us if we do something positive or something positive is going to happen to us karma does not have an opinion about good or bad at all. Karma is just presenting you with an opportunity. So if you are feeling as though you've been doing something that deserves some retribution, then an opportunity to face that is going to come
Starting point is 00:22:25 because we are leaning ourselves into that energy. We're leaning on leaning ourselves towards that. Our spirit, our energy, our, our system knows. that that behavior is not exactly who we are. And we can accept the new opportunity that's naturally coming to us. It's naturally coming. Karma is naturally flowing, giving us, granting us an opportunity to deal with the same issues that we've had and move beyond it.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Now, what people know this to be are these loops of behaviors and loops of situations in our lives that kind of happen over and over again in different flavors and different colors because we're talking to different people or we're in a different environment or in a different situation and different circumstance. But the overall situation is circular. It's a bit of the same. And it's coming back to us for our benefit, for our benefit, to give us an opportunity to work through some of the things carmically that we have not necessarily dealt with. And, you know, it's, it's,
Starting point is 00:23:47 karma is like the wise, the questions that we have in our head. That wave is just like the wise that we have in our head. And our lives are an opportunity to answer the question or get those questions answered so that we can move forward. But if we're looping on the same questions, then we're going to deal with the same circumstances until we can address what the world has to offer us in terms of opportunity to move forward. When we start to re-understand the fact that, like, you know, karma, air, life doesn't have an opinion, that we're allowed to move forward,
Starting point is 00:24:36 that we can push those boundaries, we can push those invisible walls, we can knock them down, we can climb them, we can create things similar if we want to, we can do anything we want with the invisible walls we've built around ourselves. It's our imagination.
Starting point is 00:24:49 It's what do we want to do with the walls. What are we going to build with these fascinating imaginary structures that we've placed around ourselves? It's a creative opportunity. Yeah, I feel like sometimes we're like in this cosmic dojo and the sensei is always watching and in any point in time you want to take the test to go to the next belt. He's watching and he's constantly throwing you the test. Here's five boards. Can you break them? Here's four bricks. You know, and then I think we get confused because when you break it, you're like, wait, that's not what I expected to happen. What do you mean I lost my job? What do you mean to loss this relationship? That's not supposed to happen like that. Right. Correct. You just move right. Okay, you made the next classroom. Get over here. wait, what about graduation? What about all these things? You know, it's like, it doesn't care.
Starting point is 00:25:41 You celebrate. You celebrate. Take it in yourself. You celebrate that passage, right? And then move forward. Yeah. It's so true. It's the idea of patterns in our life, you know, and the recognitions of the patterns in our life and the people around. Sometimes it takes that other person to validate the pattern that you know in your life. Like you see you you keep battling the same dragon over and over that wears different masks. And then maybe maybe you meet a friend or a mentor or a guide or a stranger even. It's like, hey man, you notice this thing? And it changes. Like, but maybe you could speak to that idea of relationships with with the pattern.
Starting point is 00:26:24 Yeah. The relationship with the pattern. Oh, man. The relationship with the pattern. came clear to me when I could actually see my own patterns, see how comfortable I was doing the same thing over and over again. Here's the example that I will provide, super personal in my dating life. In my dating life.
Starting point is 00:26:56 So I live in Jersey City, New Jersey, right across the river from Manhattan, New York City. worked in Manhattan for, you know, 20 out of those 25 years and really enjoy the city. But living in Jersey City, living in Jersey, I don't, are you familiar with like the stigma of New Jersey? Like, hey, yo, I just seen like a bunch of movies like that, you know? So like I do have the total stigma of like Goodfellas or something. So you got that stigma. You got like the MTV Jersey Shore stigma. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:32 There's a lot of stigmas about Jersey, right? Now, all of those stigmas help to form opinions. I'm just going to stick that there for a minute. So those opinions are formed, and they're forged through media and through people's experiences and all that kind of good stuff. But when people move to New York, they're moving to like the big city of dreams. So like the land of milk and honey, the land of opportunity, it's buzzing, it's popping all the time. It's great.
Starting point is 00:27:59 I would consistently end up dating women who lived in Manhattan while I lived in Jersey City. And there was a consistent issue. Number one, that I live in Jersey. Number two, I'm a father, right? So I'm a, I have a 60-year-old kid. I'm a really dedicated father. I pour a lot of time and energy into him. And like, that's my one of the things I really, really enjoy in my experience is the joy of fatherhood.
Starting point is 00:28:30 And I would end up in dating situations where there was always a concern about my geography, being I lived in Jersey, and or my role as a father in that, like, dedication, that commitment or any of the things associated with that. That became such a pattern so much that I became the prop, meaning that I didn't have confidence anymore that going into any dating situation. that somebody would accept my geography and my status as a father, something that I loved. And so I was consistently compromising who I am and what I love, looking for something external to validate consistently. And it got to the point where I was telegraphing the disappointment. I was pre-programming the disappointment into the relationship cycle. And I would leave it there, not knowing that I was leaving it there, energetically, emotionally, practically.
Starting point is 00:29:39 And then I would get super disappointed with the result and be in all kinds of other emotional battles because of this other battle that I was just creating for myself. It took a long time to see that pattern. It took my behavior dipping into its worst for me to understand that I was at the center. And then it wasn't about who they were. It wasn't about the opinions. They had no agency over the opinions that they had formed about New Jersey. It was just what they had consumed. That part I can't control.
Starting point is 00:30:21 What I can look at differently is my own love for where I am, my geography, where I place myself, my address, and for the value that I place or my role as a father and make those unconditional elements in the kind of relationship that I want to have, not only with myself, but with anyone, anyone coming into my life.
Starting point is 00:30:51 So that pattern recognition is a... That's what I mean about the passenger consciousness. You have to really elevate above the emotion and elevate above the situation to see where you, where I am contributing to the environment, emotionally, practically, scientifically, situationally, geographically, all of it. I've got a responsibility, and I started to take that responsibility onto myself once I started to recognize the pattern that I was co-created. It's interesting to see, like I like the metaphor of like setting traps that you don't even like you set these little time bombs for yourself, man, you don't even realize.
Starting point is 00:31:47 And then sometimes for me when I pan out, I realize, holy shit, my dad taught me to set these traps. You know what I mean? And like you're like, and on some level, as hard as that it is, you know, you got to get past this idea. And, you know, I work on it still. And I know some people do. It's like, you have this blame game. But then you realize what I'm holding this thing. It's not even mine. That's not even mine. Why am I holding on to this man? I'm like, you know what? Maybe I can free my dad from this if I fix this. You know, maybe this thing has been it's my turn to solve the problem. Maybe this thing got to me so that I can solve it for everyone. And then that becomes like liberating like, okay, yeah, I can fall into this thing sometimes. But you know what? I'm going to stop it here so that my son doesn't have to do it. You know, in fact, I'm going to talk about it in front of him. And so, hey, here's this trap. I've been set and if you see me set it, help me out over here, you know? And it's so crazy to
Starting point is 00:32:40 sit above yourself and not only above yourself, but your family and sit back for them and look at it and be like, okay, hold the blame for a little bit. Go ahead, man, blame everybody. Go ahead. How does that feel? Can you blame yourself? Blame your parents. Blame your kid. Holy shit. Blame your kid. You know what I mean? But like to hold on to all of that for a minute and then realize it's too big to hold and let it go. Yes. Like, man, that's a big part of it, right? Yes. Absolutely. Absolutely. I love what you said there about this thing is not for me. You know, that is, it's so important recognition, especially with our parents.
Starting point is 00:33:17 Yeah. Especially. They've been given their own challenges to surmount. And though we grew up with them, but they're not ours. They're not ours. And the more that we can understand that pattern and what it actually is encoding into us. That's when that other relationship with the truth comes in, right? Because there's a reason why I feel this way every single time they say this thing. Yeah. Oh, there's a truth to that. It's not yours.
Starting point is 00:33:59 It's why it doesn't feel right energetically. It's just not yours. It's not the worry that I talked to my mother about. A mother is a warrior. She got it from her mother. And she assumed it. She can say, I got it from my mother. She can say that.
Starting point is 00:34:20 And she assumed it. And she said that to me in a message once because she was talking about, just worrying about me. And she mentioned that she was feeling that thing that she knew she got from her mother. And it was the first time that I could recognize that that was for her, not for me. And the conversation that we had about that afterwards lasted about like a good three hours because it was the first time that I could say, I don't need it.
Starting point is 00:34:49 I motivated myself a different way. The worry part is not how I motivate myself. That's yours. However, I would like to understand why it's so valuable for you because she had been holding on to us. was like, why is it so valuable for you? That conversation was revolutionary. Do you think that early on in the conversation we spoke about this time of creativity? And when I, in this conversation, a lot of other ones that I've had,
Starting point is 00:35:24 I feel like this part of what allows you to be creative is having these types of conversations about what is possible. What is possible in your own life? What is possible with these invisible walls? What is what is possible about your habits and and are there habits that are not only detrimental, but maybe there's habits that are good for you. Like maybe it's where we're at in our life or I'm at or you're out in your life. But I feel like this is what's happening is this sort of awakening to the realization that you are in control.
Starting point is 00:36:01 Maybe this is what freedom looks like. And that's why it's so chaotic right now is there's so many people coming to this conclusion of like, shit, I've had enough of this. You know, I've had enough. I'm going to start making my life a little bit better. I'm going to start with me. I can't control what happens out there. But I control me.
Starting point is 00:36:14 I control my relationship. I can be better. Like, it's awakening to yourself becoming the best version of yourself. And when I talk about you and the aliens, I feel like you're teaching that to people, man. Like you're teaching people to take responsibility for the good and the bad, man. Is that what's going on over there? That is what's going on. I love it.
Starting point is 00:36:33 I'm so glad that you see it. That is what's going on. because it's a great responsibility. It's a great responsibility is challenging to recognize yourself, as I talked about earlier. However, there's not a bubble around the Earth. There's nothing blocking us from the space dust
Starting point is 00:36:57 that we are connecting with on a regular basis. We're all sharing and connecting with the same cosmic electric energy. It's not a different. even metaphysical. It's just science. And what we have as a result is a world of opportunity, a world of opportunity to sit back, take a deep breath, breathe in the cosmos, breathe in your surroundings, breathe in your environment, breathe in some awareness to where you are, breathe in some awareness of your emotional state. Tell yourself some good things. Tell yourself some progressive
Starting point is 00:37:45 and positive things. Observe your potential. Observe where you're cutting your potential off. See where there's incredible creative opportunities that you never knew you had with the kind of relationships that you can foster and the kind of environment that you can create, the kind of companies that we can create. We have that opportunity. It is limitless when we recognize that we're here to co-create. Not just to create. We're here to co-create.
Starting point is 00:38:22 This is a collaborative, choose-your-own adventure game. I'm a huge fan of language. And in our conversation, like, I keep hearing the metaphor of vision. Like, let's see what we can create. When you talk about advertising and you talked about the passenger consciousness, inside that language is vision. Like, you're seeing what is possible. Maybe you could speak to your relationship with language, words, and vision and metaphors.
Starting point is 00:38:56 That seems like to be something that is probably has a gift on some level for advertising, but more than that, a gift in helping people and teaching people. You can speak to the idea of imagery and words and using them. together. I mean, it's no mistake that I found myself in a business where I found myself in a business where I could explore communication. Right. Back to the story of my mom. When I was a kid, my mother said, damn you so many times. I had to actually go to a dictionary and look up the word damn to figure I would have met so I could say, Ma, why do you keep saying this to me? But I legitimately went to a dictionary to try and understand what that word meant because I was hearing it so much.
Starting point is 00:39:56 It helped me to understand the vibration of words. And that's really what we're talking about here, is the vibration of our communication. back to the bubble that's not around the earth. When we say a word, we're also breathing that word. And the way that you might feel about a word that I say to you or a way I say something to you has an impact on your body. In some way, it might excite you, might get you an edge of a seat, it might set you back.
Starting point is 00:40:46 What we're missing in that is that word, have weight atomically there's an atomic weight to words and when we are exploring the way that we can use language then we are exploring the many many opportunities that we have to communicate with each other in ways that are really really profound and really precise and really artful and really beautiful I truly However, if you only have one point of view on a word, so let's say, let's talk about, let's talk about boundaries. Right?
Starting point is 00:41:31 Yeah. Most of the boundaries in our, in human life are born of our minds, are born of the boundaries that we decide to create, whether we create that boundary in our relationship and the way that we want to be engaged, in the way that a company operates in a way that we are required to do our taxes. There's these boundaries that are created. And that all comes from our thinking. Maybe we need systems to make things better.
Starting point is 00:42:02 Maybe we need systems to account for things. But when we create a boundary, we think about the boundaries that we are surrounding ourselves with, then we also can simultaneously understand that we are boundless and limit. this because there's nothing that's actually keeping us in place except our own boundary, which has learned. Like we learned it. We understand it through what we learned. However, that boundary is only fixed to the point that your mind places it. And so the value in every part of a word matters. And the boundary The boundlessness that exists in the boundaries that we create for ourselves is the lesson that we're actually here to learn.
Starting point is 00:43:07 But if you only have one view, if your view is only that a boundary cannot be surpassed, then you will not surpass the boundaries in your mind. And it's just an expansion. It's an expansion of the potential of words, the potential of the potential of communications, the potential meaning in a word, the potential meaning in a, in why I communicated the way that I communicated, knowing that you may have said it differently. And it brings us back to the truth. Yes, and that's still the way that I said it.
Starting point is 00:43:50 Yes, and it's still the way that I said it. And that acceptance is really, really beautiful. And so when we are, when I worked my way through my career, I just started to understand that communication was much more meaningful than the advertising practice, the public relations practice, the way that we collaborate. Communication and the vibration of a communication can change lives. It can change the state of thinking. can change the temperature in a room. You know, when somebody comes in a room and they start talking about how hot it is,
Starting point is 00:44:32 but you may not be hot, all of a sudden, you're like, am I hot? That's a feeling. That's a sensation that just came from a word. And that recognition is really beautiful, and it opens up our understanding of the layers, the layers that exist within what we're communicating on a regular basis.
Starting point is 00:44:56 And their appreciation for that really transforms the way that relationships can be built by seeing the value in the words that someone's using from their vantage point. Yeah, it's really well said. The idea of the spoken word, it's, I was going to take a minute to think about it for a minute, if that's okay. Oh, good. All good. But, I mean, you got to think about it.
Starting point is 00:45:29 You know, I actually, so today, just this morning, I got a word of today from, you know, one of my email lists. Yeah. And the word of the day today was, I believe it was horipulation, H-O-R-R-I-T-I-O-N, Horipulation. Now, horrificulation is goosebumps. It's the feeling that you get when you hear something that gives you goosebumps. And I was like, I guess that's why horror films are called horror films because they're meant to like raise fears, raise that energy, raise the hairs, you know, on our arm. And it really defines within itself what the power of a word is or the power of the word is because just in the definition of that, that one word, you can actually see how a word, a spoken word, has atomic weight that can create
Starting point is 00:46:39 an actual feeling in the body, a whole sensation. It's interesting to think about how, you know, even if you go back to scripture, in the beginning there was the word. When you start thinking about like, you can't have anything until you have a linguistic pathway for it. But once you speak it into existence, once I cast this. spell upon myself of what is possible. I am removing the boundaries. I am speaking into existence a dream that is now possible. When you talk about it, it's a dream. When you envision it's possible,
Starting point is 00:47:16 when you schedule it, boom, it becomes real. You're manifesting it a real life. Come on. I'm going to take a bio break, man. Are you okay on time? I know you have 35 minutes. I'm going to do a bio break as well. I'm going to check in and then we'll come back to it. Okay, fantastic. Everybody We're taking a short break. We'll be right back. Cool. Awesome. All right. I'm good time-wise, so we can roll. Yes. I'm so thankful.
Starting point is 00:49:50 I feel like we're starting to move into some fascinating territory. I was thinking about this idea of synesthesia. You know how like sometimes you experience you can smell words or you can smell thoughts or you can feel like just the mixing up of senses. And when I hear a really intelligent person, great speaker, it's almost as if their words are communicating to you. Like all your senses are engaged. I feel like that that's why the spoken word is so meaningful.
Starting point is 00:50:22 Because even though you and I could listen to a really engaging speaker, or we may not even hear the same thing. We feel this thing. Maybe you could speak to that idea, like the spoken word and engaging all the senses. Yeah. I mean, in modern times, the verbal shot, heard around the world is I have a dream. I love it.
Starting point is 00:50:47 The verbal shot of heard around the world, I have a dream because that is relatable to every single human being. And every single human being can feel that and feel it in their own way. Every single person can feel that in their own way. doesn't make, that makes every dream divide, every single one. But at the same time is the challenge of our co-creative existence is that we all have a dream.
Starting point is 00:51:29 And when we can get together around something like that, when we can collaborate around something like that, when we can warm our hearts to each other's dreams, then there's something that's really beautiful there, but it was an activation, right? Because we're living it. He, Dr. King, manifests is something that we are living. And because his words ring and come back every year because of their timelessness and their connectivity to every being, it allows for that concept to concept to to evolve into our lives.
Starting point is 00:52:15 That's really the beauty of words when felt as like colloquial, felt as universal, felt as and spoken as authentic from the self. His definition, Dr. King's definition, was not a definition that was meant to be defuted. His definition was not, his definition was not, not a definite I was meant to be disputed. And oftentimes,
Starting point is 00:52:50 uh, when we're told that our dream isn't valid, we start to tell ourselves the wrong things about our potential. And that inner talk, that inner talk is as important as the words that we're communicating out into the world.
Starting point is 00:53:15 And so that inner talk is where the word really starts to gain its life. Because we're going to breathe that energy out. We're going to breathe that energy that we are thinking into our bodies. We're going to breathe it out into the world. And it's going to mix with everybody else's thoughts and dreams. It's an exchange. It's an exchange. And so, you know, that linguistic,
Starting point is 00:53:44 understanding and that opportunity that we have to lean deeper into our own truths and lean deeper into the things that we believe in and lean deeper into the limits that we want to break together allows for more understanding of how communication can lift up the world, lift up the vibration, can lift up the kind of opportunities that are shifts in consciousness. Real shifts in consciousness. That can happen on a one-on-one or that can happen on a global level. It just depends on the scale that you choose to communicate your vision. It's challenging to put it all into just words because, like you said, it's the vibration.
Starting point is 00:54:47 where that word, where those words, where your relationship with your thinking and your heart emanates from is then expressed out in the world. And that's a constant exchange that we should be aware of in our words, in our thoughts, because they're interrelated. I think you could even say you have a responsibility to create that inner voice that is the best possible because it's timeless when you talk about dr kings i've been to the
Starting point is 00:55:24 mountain top or i have a dream like i right now have a form of uh her hurrah hurrah what is it called again i want to say herophony but that's not right it's the heripulation i am feeling heripulation right now and it's timeless you can go back and you may while none of us were at we're in birmingham like I can watch that speech and I can feel inspired because that vibration still exists through time. And if that is true, then the words you and I have today could inspire someone five years from them. And you almost have a responsibility to breathe out that energy not only inside that you're creating inside your mind, but to putting it out in the world. That's how we make it better, right? Yes, indeed.
Starting point is 00:56:10 Yes, indeed. And that's, see, that's how everything moves back in really beautiful ways because now we come back to responsibility and creative responsibility and creative opportunity all starts right there right in the heart right into that center that we're breathing into and the more that we're connected to that center like what is what's at the core of what i am saying what is what's at the root of what i'm saying and speak from that place then we can really see see the impact of our words. But again, it's like you said, it's a great, great responsibility.
Starting point is 00:56:57 And learning to take advantage of that responsibility and opportunity is the kind of work that, you know, myself at the alien school and, you know, even the work that you're doing and, you know, other great, you know, coaches and guides are really working to help people to see is our agency to create in the world. It just, we're all going to create. through very different lenses. Yeah. It's fascinating to see.
Starting point is 00:57:26 I'm currently running this real-life experiment where how much can I put out? Like I'm testing this theory of if you get up every day and you listen to your heart and you put out love and you put out powerful ideas and you see the best in everyone, The world will respond in a way that is not only better than you imagine, but better than you can imagine. And it's this letting go. It's this like, okay, I don't know what's going to happen. I'm going to stop working at this place where I was making a buck 50.
Starting point is 00:58:05 And I'm going to just do what I love. And I want my daughter. I want your son. I want everyone listening to this kids. I want their lives to be better. I want them to be able to grow up and do what they love and be compensated for. However that compensation is. And I think that, like, I wish more people would run that experiment.
Starting point is 00:58:23 Because that's kind of one of my secret goals is like, I'm going to just flood the love out here. Look, this is possible. Watch, I'm going to do it. You know, and when you do that, you're like that pebble and a compound of water radiating outwards. And people are starting to ride that wave and they're attracted to it, you know. And I see that that's what's going on at the alien school. I think that's one reason why I wanted to reach out to you. I see, you know, I see the love.
Starting point is 00:58:49 I see the creative potential for making everyone around you better and an affinity for it, man. It's awesome. Thanks for doing that. Yeah, no, it is a true affinity. I appreciate you saying it that way. It is a true affinity. I love the potential and the work that I do because I can just see the genius, like the beautiful genius in every single person.
Starting point is 00:59:12 One of the things you said was, you know, as you've got. go, your imagination shifts, you're expanding your imagination, right as you learn. And so the beauty in that is that is true expansion, meaning we've been given this beautiful gift of imagination. It's such an amazing gift. It's so amazing that it can lock us in place. It can lock us in fear. Our imagination alone can lock us in fear or our imagination alone can lock us in fear or our
Starting point is 00:59:46 unlock us into freedom. The fact that it can do both is what we should be fully aware of. And the work that we do to expand our imaginations and to achieve heights that allow us to then further expand our imaginations, to think beyond the known and to think beyond what we think we know is the practice of learning that we don't know anything. Yep. It's the practice of learning. We don't know anything. Yep.
Starting point is 01:00:24 And the more to we recognize that we don't know anything, yet we're still here, and we have incredible opportunity, the more that we expand our imagination into possibility, into potential, and into this invisible alchemy that is waiting for us, the sitting with us, and allowing us to breathe great ideas. is and beautiful thoughts and beautiful visions into the world. You know, one breath at a time, one step at a time. And that's the process, one breath, one step at a time. It's the only way we get there together.
Starting point is 01:01:02 Yeah, I feel like it's inviting us. Like, hey, come over here. I've show you something. Why is it? Like, I've never thought about it from this angle before. Thanks for putting it this way. Imagination, having the power to lock us in fear. why is it that we use our imagination to fuel fear?
Starting point is 01:01:21 When you can just as you can use it to fuel boundlessness. It seems for, at least for me and a lot of people I know, we get stuck there. Like we do use our imagination to fuel fear. And like that holds us back. What do you think that is? We are born into chaos. It's true. We are born into chaos.
Starting point is 01:01:41 I mean, look, a baby is not crying when it comes out of the wound for a reason. We are born in the chaos and we are in the process of managing chaos. It's an incredible weight that I think we feel because so many things are undefined until we can define them through action. Or we can define them through experience or we can define them through or they're defined for us. Now, are you going to have it defined for you or are you going to go out and seek definition? This is the question to answer for yourself in the midst of chaos. And when you decide to actually go out and get the answers for yourself and believe the answers that come to you, that's when you're imagining that there is a resolution for that discordant feeling.
Starting point is 01:02:50 It's the pursuit. It's the journey. It's to actually the seeking of answers in the midst of chaos. We can't escape the chaotic element of it. We're literally affixed to evolve by an invisible force floating in space. Like it just is fat. That is naturally chaotic in itself at a macro level. But it's also super fun because gravity,
Starting point is 01:03:20 is like, hey, what do you want to do? You want to run and jump? Great, do that. You want to fly? Cool, go do that. You want to go out there in space? You can do that to gravity, like, has our back. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:35 Right, gravity has our back in the midst of this chaos. And so at least, you know, there's one element, one global element that has your back. It's gravity. You add air to that? You get two massive global elements that have your back all the time. So what do you do with safety and security and breath that's just naturally provided by Earth's rotation? That's the big question to answer through progress, through time, through experience, through observation, through appreciation, through gratitude.
Starting point is 01:04:19 through awareness, through consciousness, through stepping back. Those practices in the midst of being held and cared for and breathed by the planet, really change your relationship with your imagination and what you can do with the potential of the moment. Gravity holds you in the moment. Oxygen prepares you for the moment.
Starting point is 01:04:49 life preparation for the moment. What do you do with the moment? And that's where our imaginations can be fixed in place. Everything just only is what it is. Or our imaginations can allow us to see the value in every single step, every single step in the adventure towards where we either know that we're going, like you talked about, you fix it, You tell the cosmos where you want to go,
Starting point is 01:05:23 and the cosmos was like, cool, let's get to, let's get you. It may not be, actually, it will not be. Guaranteed. The way that you wanted to be. It will not. When I started the alien school, I didn't know that we'd be having this conversation. I'm so glad that we're having it. It was an idea.
Starting point is 01:05:45 I didn't know that we'd be having this conversation, but I'm so glad that we're having it, And I'm so glad that I've taken every step that's gotten us to this conversation. That's the gratitude for the journey. That's the awareness of the moment. That's the appreciation for the co-creative opportunity that we have from the great distance that we have between us. It's powerful. It's huge.
Starting point is 01:06:08 Like it's spiritual in some way. What do you think of when I say the word spiritual? This is a word that, um, that, um, that's, um, that, probably need some reconditionment. Oh, man. I've had a very interesting journey in my life with spirituality. I've actually thanked my mother recently for not bringing me up religiously. My mother was a part of the Nation of Islam. Mother explored some other different religions after she had moved on from a nation.
Starting point is 01:06:51 of Islam and I didn't really grow up with any religion fixed religion in the household I'll go to church with my grandmothers and you know occasionally we find ourselves in some ceremonial place or some ceremonial environment church like grew up in a like predominantly Jewish community back in Pittsburgh Pennsylvania where I grew up and I didn't really have a relationship with spirituality because all I knew it as was religion growing up. That's really all I knew and I didn't know much about religion because I didn't really
Starting point is 01:07:29 grew up too deep or densely fixated into it. So my encounter with spirituality really came when I came out of my first understanding of some of the really negative impacts in my behavior. And I sought out a coach who happened to also be a shaman. went to him for the coaching. He just also happened to be a shaman. And he introduced me to the magic of the world. I'll just say it.
Starting point is 01:08:08 I'll just say it anyway. The fact that there is this really interconnected nature to who we are and what we are, that we are, at some point as humanity, we've got to get to the point where we recognize. that we're born of the same thing. And whenever we get to that point, that we are born of the same thing, that we're all born of the same spark,
Starting point is 01:08:35 those barriers will really start to break down where we don't actually need the word spirituality to define life, to define existence. Because when I think about spirituality, I just think about existence, the fact that we share this earth in this ball floating around
Starting point is 01:08:57 inside of this amazing cosmic space that we're floating around there. It's just true. And when we can find that union at a certain point of our humanity and then
Starting point is 01:09:15 our relationship with other organic life and our relationship with all that we have co-created together, like we created This apartment that I'm in is a creation. This device, this rectangle I'm talking to is a creation. The stand that my device, that my rectangle is sitting on is a creation. When we start to see the dope things that we're doing for each other,
Starting point is 01:09:41 the truly dope things that we're doing for each other to connect to each other, there will be less need for words like spirituality. It's so fascinating to me that the language, and the affinity we have for the words and whether you look at the etymology of what a word came from. On some level, they still fail to accurately communicate
Starting point is 01:10:09 the true meaning of it. Like, you're right, spirituality is such a limiting word. And we worship spirituality, but it's still so limiting in so many ways and it's defined in so many different shapes to it and like, that's not my spiritual.
Starting point is 01:10:24 This is my religion, spirituality. But if you're just, you sometimes that's why the silent pause quietness that ability to sit in silence with someone else is so beautiful because you're just enjoying the actual spiritual nature of one another and recognizing it in the silence right that's why they say silence can be deafening right like it's so beautiful if you sit outside in a beautiful day regardless of where you are and you take in that deep breath like that is spiritual that is understanding the true divinity, that true spark of who you are.
Starting point is 01:11:01 I love asking that question. I think for answered it that way. Indeed. Indeed. It's a truth that hit me through just exploring the fact that I didn't have all these religious fixations. I needed to actually understand a little bit more about what the holding place was of religion. I didn't get it. Truly, I didn't get it.
Starting point is 01:11:23 I was walking on the beach in L.A. and a beautiful spirit heads me a card, and she called me a sinner. And I grabbed the card, and I kept walking, and I stopped in my traction. I was like, wait a minute, I don't think I'm mad. And I turned around and I went back to her, and I had a conversation. Because I was really curious why she classified me that way without knowing me, and I'm just like a person walking on the beach. I wanted to understand that, you know, how, why I was,
Starting point is 01:11:56 classified as a sinner just by my being. And we had a good conversation. It was one where I, for the first time, understood that in a lot of different religious studies and ideologies, there is only one story. And as I was looking around and listening to her, I had to ask, so none of these
Starting point is 01:12:31 other stories are, only this one story, this is the only story that matters. And I finally understood my, I finally understood why I had such a resistance to
Starting point is 01:12:46 religion when I was aware of it because I actually believe in everybody's story as is. And if you don't have that, and everybody's story as is is really difficult to connect with the world as is. And I'm actually really good with the world as is because I can feel the progress that we're making. I can feel it.
Starting point is 01:13:17 It's slower than any of us want it to be on any level, but it's beautiful. That's a great way to look at it. You know, we see this progress through maybe 100 years if we're lucky. We think that's a long time. But in the grand scheme of things, man, it's just a wind. Yeah, man. So why would it be that fast? But just to take a moment and see the progress, like just to look back, you know, or to look forward and be like, wow, we are moving in a direction that is glorious.
Starting point is 01:13:57 It may not seem like you today, but it is. If you can look back and you can find it, then you can find that thread to follow. It's looking for all of us, I think. Yeah. We've made amazing progress. Truly, we've made amazing progress. That the fact that we are, especially on the American front, in a bit of like a Jetson's life, like we're in this like low-fi, high-fi, where we've got all the technology in the world.
Starting point is 01:14:23 We're doing Jetson shit. Yeah. I'm sorry. I didn't mean it occurs. Yeah, it's all good, man. We're doing Jetson's things. Look at what we're doing right now. This is Star Trek what's happening right now.
Starting point is 01:14:34 We're not appreciating all these advancements because we're mired in opinion. We're mired in all these other things that are keeping us away from an appreciation for where we are. And I'm personally glad that I've been offered an opportunity to appreciate where we are from a less colorized vantage point,
Starting point is 01:14:57 from a less fixated vantage point. It's opened me up to the kind of relationships that I've always wanted in my life is open me up to the kind of creative value that I've wanted in my life. It's open me up to the spirit of entrepreneurship, not as starting a business, but following my intention,
Starting point is 01:15:20 following my purpose. And not affixing it to, the structure, but knowing that I can take advantage of the structure. This brings up, so with a career in advertising and a career in branding and seeing things the way they are, and we couple that with creativity, and then we couple that to where we are in the world today. It seems to me that we're moving into a place where everyone's co-creating, but everyone is their own company, everyone is their own brand.
Starting point is 01:15:53 And that seems to be a pretty glorious place when you can go. out and rep the thing that you love the most and have people come to you for that. Like, is that something that you see moving forward, the future unfolding in that way is the individual becoming their own brand or maybe that's the right word for it, but their own entrepreneurial sort of, it just seems like the next evolution of each individual is their own entity on some level. I know that's not the best way to describe it. But what's your take on that?
Starting point is 01:16:21 No, you described it well. You described it well. and it's, I'm going to try to like be concise in this. Okay. Where we are right now is a beautiful training ground for where we will ultimately be. That isn't good. Once we connect with the fact that we actually are our, like our brand matters, who we are truly matters and that definition of who we are and that expression of who we are truly matters,
Starting point is 01:16:56 not for the likes, not for the transactional element, but for the ascension of the globe, for the growth and expansion of our beauty as humanity. Again, there's these release points that are out there for us, but we're just in a training ground right now. We are, and that's why we've offered ourselves social media. We've offered ourselves companies and corporations and brands. We've offered ourselves all these examples.
Starting point is 01:17:26 of what it takes to craft an identity so that we can understand the fictitious nature of crafting identity. When we fully understand the fictitious nature of crafting identity will actually find ourselves reconnecting to ourselves. We don't need to need. another layer over top of our humanity.
Starting point is 01:18:00 It's cool in the moment that we're in, but it's not necessary. I like that, the fictitious buildup of these stories. And maybe speaks to the idea of why stories are so important. You know, whether you're telling the story of Apple or you're telling the story of Nike or you're telling the story of the hero's journey. You know, what a training ground that is.
Starting point is 01:18:30 and then to be able to absorb all those stories and find the meaning in them and interpret them the right way for your individual lens to play out a story. It's beautiful. We're inspiring each other. We're just, we're truly inspiring each other. It's so beautiful, George. Yeah. It's so beautiful. We are, we are inspiring each other in so many awesome ways.
Starting point is 01:18:53 And I've always been grateful to be able to sit back and see that and to have worked with the kind of people that. that I've worked with to see the genius that I've seen over the course of my life and see the passion that I've seen for making something beautiful, making an experience great, making every pixel mean something. I work with people who just every pixel, it means something to them. And it's not always appreciated.
Starting point is 01:19:25 It's not always appreciated how invested we can be, how invested we can be, in making magic, in creating beauty, in creating experiences for each other, in entertaining each other. Like we're here for each other in such amazing ways and we're inspiring each other in such amazing ways. We're doing it through a challenging structure
Starting point is 01:19:50 and crucible for like the human heart. But again, this is about exponential growth well beyond our existence. You know, the examples of ancient times have come forth to inform us for our future. It's not hidden. It's just now, it's just on the internet now. The internet didn't exist. It was never hidden.
Starting point is 01:20:17 It was just, we didn't have the internet. Now we got it. Yeah. It's really fantastic to be able to access wisdom from the ages. understand its value to the now and be able to actively make efforts to transcend that into a better future for everybody. And, you know, it speaks to something that you spoke to earlier when we were talking about Dr. King and his words, like truth bends time. Yes.
Starting point is 01:20:52 It's just an arrow. Truth is an arrow through time. And as truth bends time for us, we. are going to learn the flexibility to move with truth. That's just our journey. It's what I see in our journey. And, you know, one of the reasons why I take the work at the alien schools so seriously is because the more humans that connect with who they are, connect with their purpose, connect with their creative spirit.
Starting point is 01:21:29 and find a remedy for the alienation that we have a tendency to feel in the different environments that we are learning and growing in. There's a real, tangible, beautiful offering to the future that goes along with that. And this is just my vehicle for that offer. Maybe you can talk to us more about the aliens. school. Is it, is it, like, let's say that there's people watching right now and they're like, this is amazing. How do I get a hold of this guy? Like, is it something they enroll in? Is it something that you, did you can do online? Is it only in New Jersey or does it, you know, tell us more about it. Yeah. So, um, the school is global right now working with students in
Starting point is 01:22:20 Trinidad, in the United States, in Dubai, in Hawaii. So, so, so, you'll begin to come of these devices that we have available to us, the alien school can be anywhere that the alien school needs to be. It is a learning environment, and so there is an enrollment. And when you go to the alien school.com, there is a growing frequently asked questions section. If you have any questions about the alien school, it's in that frequently asked question section because those are questions that people just ask me randomly when I'm talking about the school. And I'm like, you know what, that's another question for the FAQs. And so I write those responses there.
Starting point is 01:23:06 What's really important for anyone to understand is that there's a lot of work that goes into diving into oneself and hearing oneself and seeing one's creative opportunity. and because I've been around such brilliant creatives during my time working in advertising, I can just, I just have this ability to see the beauty in talent, the beauty in gifts, the beauty in the genius that kind of sits in everybody. So when you come to the alien school, the first thing you should know is that I notice you're a genius already. That part is already solved because you're there and we're having a conversation. Everything that we do over the bespoke semesters that we build, so I build a semester of work that lasts about four months, sometimes six months.
Starting point is 01:24:04 It really depends on that particular scholars or that organization's intentions. Over the course of that time is the work to unfurl that genius, to let it be seen and let it be known, and to determine where that genius is actually going to get applied into the creative opportunities. in one's life. So over that four to six month time frame that we work together, there's various meditations, lessons, mantras, content that is created exclusively for you. That's some of it in my voice, a lot of it in your own voice, a lot of it pulled from, you know, some of the wisdom of the world so that as we get closer and closer to an understanding of your genius, you actually have a toolkit, a virtual toolkit of resources that help you to move through that relationship in a way that allows for the experience of being a creative being to really take hold.
Starting point is 01:25:17 The genius is just going to continue to express itself. And the other reason why I work in this four to six-month timeframes is because we really need to take the time to get to understand who a person is and what this human has been articulating into the world because that's really the first sign of their genius is how they got to the conversation, the orientation conversation that we're having. once that's clear, then it really is off to the races, but none of the work works unless you do the work.
Starting point is 01:25:58 And any good coach, any good therapist, any good mental health worker, any good, a kinesiologist, physical therapist, will say that none of the work, none of this works unless you do. And it's a profound understanding to apply to the alien's. school and that's why I put the word school on there because there's a lot of work that goes into recognizing the potential that you have in the world and then harnessing it with beauty and optimism and enthusiasm and the encouragement of someone who truly believes in everything that you are I love it, man. I think people should go down to the show notes, click on the links down there and check you out.
Starting point is 01:26:55 Do you do a, if someone wanted to reach out, do they do like a free conference call? Yes. A discovery call. Yeah. Okay. The very first call is taking a tour of your creative self. So across the website, you'll see a little button that says take a tour of your creative
Starting point is 01:27:14 self. And that's a 30-minute call between you and I. We dive into an understanding of why you're here in the first place. What brought you to the alien school? What brought you to an understanding of your own creativity, how you live in the world. We really kind of dive into some clarity on why we're having a conversation. From there, there's a little orientation booklet that I send over to,
Starting point is 01:27:45 to the scholars, and that gives me a little bit more insight into who they are. And our first session together, our first kind of work session, is setting intentions. And I can't remember who the, I can't remember who the magician is that said these words. But they said that every intentional act is a magical act. And the reason why we do the intention setting at the beginning of the semester is because when we set those intentions, there is no doubt that you are going to get to where you want to go. There is no doubt about that. And every opportunity that comes to you after you have set your intention is an opportunity for you to lean into your intention. because now the world knows what your intentions are.
Starting point is 01:28:47 And it's every opportunity to lean in. Understanding, seeing, recognizing what the world is offering, that's most of the work that happens during the course of the time we work together at the alien school. And you start to just feel this reconnection with your sense of self, your sense of place, your sense of opportunity, your sense of optimism and enthusiasm. But it's really the birth of creative awareness.
Starting point is 01:29:12 the birth though, the fact that everything around you has been created for you. And that that does not stop in the moment, that every breath, every step you take is another creative opportunity when done with intention and taking advantage of the magic that intention provides. The second definition, if you were to just look up. the word intention. Just Google it. The second definition is a medical definition.
Starting point is 01:29:50 And it is the healing process of a wound. And that definition doesn't specify the kind of wound. It's important to know that about intention is that, you know, whether it's an emotional wound, whether it is a physical wound, whether it is a mental wound that are intention to understand and address those wounds is the beginning of a healing process, a definitive healing process. And taking that on is a huge responsibility, but a beautiful one as well. Man, it sounds like a, it sounds like a great place for not only discovering, maybe building relationships. I could imagine the people that are attending for some of the students and scholars
Starting point is 01:30:43 that you have there. I think iron sharpens iron. You know what I mean? So I could see that it could be some really great group work happening there. Absolutely. Absolutely. And I'm loving it. I'm loving observing it.
Starting point is 01:30:54 Because again, this came from a theory of experience, but turned into something that is really practical for individuals, for groups, for collectives to apply. And the more tools that we continue to create through the work that we're doing and the student body has been amazing in collaborating and helping to even elevate what the school is and taking it beyond my own imagination, that I can see the magic of intention and what it does in bringing people together in order to co-create opportunities for each other. It just is the flow without need to
Starting point is 01:31:42 needing to be a company. And that's one of the things that I've been really dedicated to around this institution, around the A&A school, is to not define it as any particular thing other than a learning environment and allow for the ecosystem to build around that and allow for the student body to interconnect in a way that would happen on any campus.
Starting point is 01:32:08 Yeah, our friend, shout out Thomas Hutchison over here who says, every act originated in the mind first, every story, a dream, and every invention and idea before it came into existence in this physical realm. Well, well said, Thomas. Well, well said. Facts. Yeah. Facts on facts on facts. And that's the thing.
Starting point is 01:32:32 It's like it's all fact. It doesn't need to be spiritual to be fact. It's just fact. Yeah. It's amazing to me. Thomas Hutchison is an awesome guy. He's always commenting and part of the octopus movement. He is one of us for sure, just a sharp mind and a cool person.
Starting point is 01:32:52 I'm reminded, though, especially in this conversation, whenever I hear Thomas, I always think of the gospel of Thomas. And he talks about my father's kingdom is here around us, but no one sees it, man. It just kind of echoes back to this idea of intention, like what you were talking about earlier. Yeah. I don't know. It's fascinating to me. We are sitting in the kingdom.
Starting point is 01:33:14 Yeah, right. We are sitting in the kingdom. It's just a frame shift to understand it. It doesn't need to exist anywhere else. Right. The earth is how dope is earth? How dope is earth? Look, man, I spend a career in experience design.
Starting point is 01:33:35 Okay. I spend a career and experience design. I love making experiences. I loved designing worlds for the communication of an ideal, of like a brand ideal. I love curating exhibits. I love the opportunity to have an artistic thought and bring people together in an environment.
Starting point is 01:33:57 Earth as a creation is so dope. And if we can't connect with how dope Earth is, just look around you. Like the stereo system, earth, the plant, earth. The table, earth. The shirt, earth. The belt, earth. The bath, earth.
Starting point is 01:34:24 Like, we're in the dopest kingdom of creation available to humanity. And when we start to connect with that, we're going to start having a great time if you're not already. Yeah, that's so well said. How can you look around and not realize that you're part of this miracle? This miracle runs through you. You have the power to create the same way this earth create. Maybe you don't come into this way. You come out of it.
Starting point is 01:34:49 Part of it. Start acting like it. You know what I mean? Like just be boundless the same way the earth is. Connect with it. Exactly. Yeah. It's amazing.
Starting point is 01:35:01 This is amazing conversation. And I'm truly thankful for your time. And I really hope people go down to the show notes. I hope that there is a new wave of people that find themselves knocking on the door of the alien school, man. I love what you're putting out there. And I hope you'll come back and we can have more conversation. Maybe we can bring the student body on and we could have some sort of other people coming on and just more people into the tent and more ideas being talked about and more people creating more beautiful things. Before I let you go, man, where can people find you?
Starting point is 01:35:34 What do you got coming up and what are you excited about? Yeah, so people can find me at thealienschool.com, spelled as you know, all those words, the alien school. It is an environment of just my thought as well as an understanding of how to connect with the values of the school, to understand why I created the school in the first place, and to take a chore of your creative self. That's free. You get to take a tour of your creative self for free. You should probably just do that. Just click on that.
Starting point is 01:36:10 So why wouldn't you, right? Why wouldn't you do that? So that's first. And I'm willing to do as many tours as possible because I love creative beings. I'm down for it. I want to hear about all the genius on this planet, right? I want to hear about all of it. So thealienneschool.com, best place to find me,
Starting point is 01:36:26 because that's all of who I am put into a website. It's every fiber of who I am put into a website. If you wanted to find me on LinkedIn, you also could. My name is a pretty easy name to find there. You won't find me much on social media, but you can also find me on the True Life podcast. So those are places where you can find me. What's coming up?
Starting point is 01:36:53 More student enrollment, more work to create some educational tools. through the voice, the alien school, that is going to help people to connect outside of that, taking the tour of your creative self, some tools to help with some grounding and some connectivity to our creative beings. I've written a couple guidebooks
Starting point is 01:37:17 that are going to be coming out this year that I think will be really, really valuable and a lot of fun. George, I'll send you a preview and wanded up and working on that you might dig into. And I'm excited about I guess what I call the fatherly instinct in that
Starting point is 01:37:38 something is not talked about often. There's like the motherly instinct is there. We know that. We talk about that all the time. I'm excited about the appreciation that I'm gaining for the role that I get to play as a co-creator of of life. I think I'll say it that simply
Starting point is 01:38:04 because I don't want to confuse it with childhood or creating children, but just like being a co-creative partner in the relationship that creates something better. I'm just excited about being the human that I am
Starting point is 01:38:26 and the opportunity that I have to be in a co-creative role with anybody who wants to connect with their creative being, their creative self in new ways. And I'm also very excited about sharing this episode because we've covered some really dope territory, man. And this has been fantastic. I really appreciate the forum that you create for the expansion of mindsets. man thank you i to get to see education changing in real time is mind-blowing to me like i love it i love it
Starting point is 01:39:10 like the idea of credentialing and the idea of discovery and it's changing right now right here in conversations and higher education the definition of it is changing and it's available to everyone right now there's never been a better time to create there's really incredible people out there that are changing the game and making the world accessible to dreamers, man. And you are one of them. Alien School is one of them. And I'm super thankful for that.
Starting point is 01:39:38 And hang on briefly afterwards. I still want to talk to you just briefly afterwards. But ladies and gentlemen, thank you to everyone who hung out today. Everybody in the comments, everybody who's going to be listening to us in the future. Thank you. I hope you have a beautiful day, a beautiful weekend.
Starting point is 01:39:50 And I have a dream. You have a dream. Dr. King had a dream. It's timeless. The dream is now. start living it. That's all we got for today. Aloha.

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