TrueLife - Kyle Hi - Where Ambition Meets Algorithm

Episode Date: February 21, 2024

One on One Video Call W/George https://tidycal.com/georgepmonty/60-minute-meetingSupport the show:https://www.paypal.me/Truelifepodcast?locale.x=en_US🚨🚨Curious about the future of psychedelics? Imagine if Alan Watts started a secret society with Ram Dass and Hunter S. Thompson… now open the door. Use Promocode TRUELIFE for Get 25% off monthly or 30% off the annual plan For the first yearhttps://www.district216.com/https://humandesign.ai/http://linkedin.com/in/kylehiIn the symphony of human design and AI, Kyle Hi orchestrates a narrative where ambition meets algorithm. As an author, entrepreneur, and mentor, he crafts the notes of a tokenized self-development platform, seamlessly blending the melody of human inspiration with the rhythm of artificial intelligence. In this convergence, the question arises: Can we code the essence of betterment, or is the soul of progress inherently human? Kyle’s journey invites us to ponder the harmonious coexistence of our aspirations and the algorithms that shape our collective destiny. One on One Video call W/George https://tidycal.com/georgepmonty/60-minute-meetingSupport the show:https://www.paypal.me/Truelifepodcast?locale.x=en_USCheck out our YouTube:https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPzfOaFtA1hF8UhnuvOQnTgKcIYPI9Ni9&si=Jgg9ATGwzhzdmjkg

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And then you're like three-fourths of the way into the thing And you're like, damn, we should have recorded this. Yep. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the True Life podcast I hope everybody's having a beautiful day. Maybe you're in Scotland. Maybe you're in the Philippines.

Maybe you're in Hawaii. I don't know. Maybe you're in South Africa. Wherever you are, I've got a great show for you this morning, this evening, this afternoon. Incredible individual, Kyle, coming to us from the Philippines. We're talking about digital nomads. We're talking about human design. We're talking about AI.

We're talking about all these incredible things. And I just want to dive right into this a little bit. Kyle, thank you for being here today, my friend. I'm going to get into your back. I want to get into everything, but let's just pick up what we left off. Digital Nomad and a dog and being stuck in Manila. I thought it's going to have to give everybody a little bit of context. But yeah, no, so I was stuck in, I was in Bali for seven years.

And during the pandemic, I rescued a dog. And I don't know about you or people who you've ever listened to this, but I don't believe in sterilizing dogs. well I do but I don't believe I believe that it's their only purpose in life is to reproduce and if we take that away from them without actually allowing them the opportunity to experience that we're kind of playing God so I let my dog I let my dog have a couple of puppies and we kept one of the puppies and this puppy happened her name is Yen and she's the most loving adorable dog everybody just loves her she's so intelligent she's so smart but she was keeping me in Bali after

seven years and you know if you've ever been on one island for seven years and sometimes it can get a bit you know so anyway long story short we we decided to move to the philippines and i set everything up by went through the the painstaking process of moving my dog and and um i went to jacarta and took her to manila and got to manila and as i was saying before anyone that's experienced manila particularly the outer city, we'd be able to tell you it's like it's kind of the most, it's a pretty crazy. It's the most densely populated city in the entire world. And it's just kind of completely chaotic.

And I'm not a city person. So here's me stuck in the city with my dog from Bali, wondering what the hell on earth that I've done. How did I end up in this in this city? And I've got a really good question to. follow up on later on I'd like to bring up in the podcast that's kind of been on my mind a little bit but I had I decided to ask God or to ask the universe however you want to however you want to call it and I was like what what's going on why am I why am I here why why is this place like why am I stuck here why is everything going wrong usually everything flows for me I'm

very lucky like everything is always unfolding like the most perfect synchronic synchronicistic synchronicistic way you could imagine. So getting stuck in Manila was a bit of a shock. And I said, God, what is it that I'm, what do you want to tell me? What am I here to do? And all I could hear, all I could hear, whether in my head, whether it was me or the universe or God or whatever, was write a book. Right a book.

So that was the beginning. That was when I started panning out the third book, my third book. And it was funny, it was almost miraculous as soon as I got the first eight or nine pages down, all of a sudden my permit to move the dog was approved. And I found a mode of transportation and the universe kind of, yeah, it just allowed me passage to continue with my journey. To give you the whole story, it would literally take an entire book to do. But I think the third book is actually unfolding. So yeah, I wish we'd call it the last part because it would have given a lot more context, you know?

Yeah. It's all good, man. It's all good to start off in the beginning sometimes. And I think about great movies, when I think about good books. A lot of the times, it's like this scene in the middle that's like, whoa, kind of is the hook right there. And I kind of feel like that's what's kind of happening right now. But let me bring it back to the beginning. So I met you through our friend, Anya, who is,

into intelligent design and human resources. And she's finding a way to structure the future by combining these two types of technologies. And she says, you know what, George got to talk to Kyle. He's got this platform that he's running. He's working with AI. He's working with human design. I know you've been traveling quite a bit. And I just want to throw it back to you a little bit, so you can build a little bit of a foundation for the audience right now. Like, how did you get started? What are you working on right now? And let me just throw that, throw that your way. And you can kind of molded in anything you'd like it. Yeah, sure. So I'm the founder of a platform called

Human Design.AI, which combines human design with artificial intelligence. So I'm going to give you a little bit of a backdrop without telling that it is literally a few books worth. But I've always been very entrepreneurial since I was about the age of 12, I'd always had this inclination to build websites for the world. That sounds a bit weird, but my first business idea,

my first website idea was actually a website called VidLink, which was going to be the YouTube-style platform where you could watch videos from all over the internet. And this was in 2000, when this was in, I'd say it, about 1999 to 2000. It was about five years before YouTube was founded. But obviously at the time, it took about three days to upload a video.

and I didn't really know how to build a business. It never really, it never happened. But there was kind of a seed as to, I don't know, I've always had this inherent knowing that I was going to create something of importance with the internet for the world. And fast forward, 20 odd year, 20, how many years, 20 years, and I traveled all over the world. I've written two books. I've built a YouTube channel, but I still never really found that thing that really,

really I felt was my calling and I felt was something I could persistently do for a long period of time. Until 2021, when I had a bit of a breakup and, you know, like all breakups come to be catalysts. And I'm like, you know what? I've got to figure out. I've got to figure out who I am. I don't want this to happen ever again. I don't want to meet someone and not be able to deliver, you know. So I, and a human design kept coming up. Many people kept talking about it.

It's just people kept coming up into your sphere. You know, I don't know about you, George, but whenever something comes to you repeatedly, I'm kind of like, okay, this is something I got to explore. So I looked it up and it turned out that I was a projector, which was when I first read about being projector, for anyone in your audience to actually know human design or doesn't know a human design, a projector, we're here to guide energy.

We're not here to build. We're not here to make things happen. We're here to really show people how to use their energy more most efficiently. So I said, wait, and one of the things that really resonated from this teachings was that I was not here to work hard. You know, I was like, wait a minute, that sounds great. You mean I don't have to work hard? it's like holy shit but it takes it's really hard to get your head around that especially in a world that's super fast-paced and everybody's competing with each other and

everybody's working grinding and so on and the culture is all about grinding but i thought okay well this really resonates so i'm going to have to take it seriously a little bit and and practice it and then i started practicing it and i was sitting there waiting for the invitations i was like when's my invitation going to come you know but at the same time I could see that by waiting for the invitation and by not offering myself without that invitation, I was noticing that the right kind of experiences were coming to me. And I wasn't, nothing was forced. And I didn't actually have to do anything.

I could just chill. And I was like, this is great. What do you mean, I just get to chill and life, like, like just happens, you know? So it's like, okay, I really, really resonating with me. And I, so I lock myself into my, into my room. and I spent months studying this system. I thought, shit, this is really, this is amazing. And me being an entrepreneur and having had many online businesses over the years,

some successful, some not so successful. I felt that I was like, okay, I really want to create a business from this, on this topic. I really want to find something, I want to give this to as many people as possible. This is something I'm really passionate about. I want to share it. So this was 2021 when this happened. I logged into NameChief, a domain registration,

and I typed in Human Design, fully expecting everything to be taken by this point in time, bearing in mind that human design has been around since 1987. The only domain name that was available, aside from the not so great ones, was Human Design. and it was it was $200 I thought to myself 200 bucks do I really want to spend 200 bucks and do I really want to put myself into that situation where I'm going to be you know building a

startup again running a business like I have nobody's invited me I was asking all these questions but then I thought to myself you know what 200 bucks is like if if worst case scenario I can I can probably sell the domain name if I I choose not to go down that path. But in mind, I didn't have all that much money at the time because it was a pandemic and I was in Bali and there was no way to work. And it was tough.

So 200 bucks was kind of a big deal back then. So I went ahead and I registered the domain name and it sat there for a bit. And I decided that I wanted to teach human design to other people. but I figured the best way to do that was one-to-one. You keep dropping out. Am I? Are you still there?

Yeah, I'm good. Okay, cool. So I realized that the best thing that I could possibly offer at that point in time was combining human design and teaching people how to build businesses online and finding people's purpose and finding that thing that people could give, especially during that time when everybody was working online. So I set up a Fiverr gig, a couple of Fiver gigs, and I started offering these consultations, and they went down a real storm. They were great.

Everybody really loved them. But I was finding very difficult to teach the human design aspect with my limited knowledge. I didn't know much about the gates. I didn't know much about the channels. So in my projector mindset of making things as easy and effortless as possible, I put it. together the single most basic chatbot combined with the body graph it was it was really old school it was like a it was one where you would you would type in a keyword and it would recognize the keyword and then it would give you an answer based on that keyword it wasn't really

artificial intelligence but it did the job and it helps me to do the readings and I ended up kind of saving up enough money and getting enough experience to to really understand the talk and then lo and behold chaty BT just showed up you know we really we got our glimpse of the real glimpse of our official intelligence and as and this was at home my god if only we could figure out how to integrate the chart human design chart into the AI and figure out how to how to make it you know work basically and so I had that's where the idea was kind of born the as it's current as the current stands and it was it was some you know sometimes George

sometimes we think okay I need to find somebody to help me with this yeah and we look everywhere and then all of a sudden one day we wake up and realize that we are the people we are already Yeah, I know. We're trying to delegate this process, but really it's actually something that we have to do within ourselves. And somehow, miraculously, some day, I just had some spirit of divine inspiration, and we'll call it. And I was like, you know what, I'm going to crack this. I'm going to figure out how to integrate the AI into the chart.

I'm just going to do it. I don't know why. I just, I knew how to code. So I was like, I knew how to code, but I'm going to experiment. I'm going to try. And I did. I somehow figured out how to give the AI the context of the chart and then combined that with the human design system to produce actual real results. But actually gave you the correct information.

And I'm like, holy shit. No way. And yeah, that's how the platform was born. And it's gone from strength to strength. It just keeps perpetuating itself. And I'm more than happy to go into any aspects of that. But you just tell me what it is that you want to tell me if there's anything that really like. There's a lot that jumps out there.

Like at first, I can't get over those two titles. Like human design and artificial intelligence. Like I think it's a good place to start. like it is it artificial intelligent designed by humans like human design like it's just you know what i mean like it's just it just kind of glaring at you right there what's the relationship there well here's here here here's the thing so um as a projector so as a gen as a generator you're here to generate and you're here to create uh but you're here to you have to wait to respond before you create as you as you know um but that that's a

doesn't always not always the case but in most cases that for the for the biggest success and the biggest satisfaction it's best for you to wait for something to respond and then use your gut to make the decision from for me as a projector my I don't have the the drive and the energy to be able to generate all the time I can generate but I have to drink about six coffees and I've stained for a few months before I've got the the kind of the power but the but my skill set is in making things much more efficient and seeing systems and seeing things how things can be made easier.

And the one thing that really stood out to me as a projector who just fell in love with the human design system was just how much information there was to digest and comprehend. And my little human brain could never could never fully engage all that information. But then at the same time, how do you how do you make this? this very valuable information more accessible to humans so that people can then become ironically more human which is there is an irony in it I know there's an iron there's a huge irony and it blows my mind every every every day but yeah and I that's a whole different tangent but but the the the key the the fundamental idea behind the the integration

the AI with the human design, which is predominantly to future humans, is just to make the information much more digestible in a way that if you, for example, yeah, you get a basic understanding of human design, you think, oh my God, this resonates with me, but how does it apply in my everyday life? How can I learn, like, how can I learn, like, in bite-sized information without bothering another human who knows my chart? So we want, so we, that's why we did, that's why we decided to fuse the AI well that's why I not decided but I felt inspired to fuse AI with the human human design but there is this weird irony that I'm sure everybody will agree is that that now people are humans are now learning from

the AI how to be more humans and and that will come back into as I mentioned in our pre-call it's like that's the that's the kind of the moral ethical kind of conundrum that I asked myself as the founder of this platform every single day, like, are we using technology in a positive way? Are we actually creating a better world? Are we actually being of service using this tool? And I've gone around it thousands of thousands of times in my heart and so on.

If you remove money and you remove success and you remove my ego and everything from the equation, I cannot see a downside to people just having a better understanding of who they are. And if we need to use AI to present that information in a more condensed way, that's more digestible, then by all means, let's do it. Let's use technology to actually help us to understand how to make the correct decisions, for example. You know? And also on a scale, a scale. So I'm sure we won't.

I'm sure we can't really go into too much of the topic of what happened over the pandemic in 2020. Yeah, whatever you want to. Go all into it, man. We can, we can. But my feeling is that, God, I wish I had this awareness and drive and inspiration to create this platform and the technology before that had happened. Because if there was one thing that could have shifted the course of humanity during this period is self-awareness and being able to understand who they are, what they're here to do, but then to be able to know what is actually true for them. So I'm sure that a lot of many people had, they understood their own human design

and been presented with the opportunity to inject a poison into themselves. They probably would have had more of a intuitive or gut instinct is to say, no, this is not right for me. And that's why I love human design is because one of the strongest, one of the best things about it is it helps people to really actually make decisions. Now it kind of make things more complicated in my case where it's intuitive. But if your gut, if your decision-making process is your gut or your ego or your feelings, then it's quite clear.

Your body sends quite clear messages to be able to help you to make the decisions. And what good we could have done if more people were just, you just knew, you know. But that's hindsight. And maybe that wasn't the divine plan. You know. We'll have it for the next pandemic. Well, we're working on that. We're working.

We're working on that. Yeah. I'm steadily, slowly but surely acquiring it, a user base with enough momentum to hopefully shift something in the future for humanity, you know. Let me ask you this. When you, is human design spiritual in nature for you?

Like, how do you see it as a spiritual component? Well, yeah, that's a great question, George. And I've been really contemplating it because yesterday I had dinner with four really amazing people, but they're really devout Christian, Catholic Christians. Nice. And obviously human design incorporates an element of astrology and our Hebrew teachings and the Hindu system, the chakra system, etc.

And there are certain Christians that would automatically live. human design as demonic or something from the devil. And I sometimes ask myself the same question because I am inherently, I would say, a Christian belief. I see Christianity more as metaphorical, but not quite, whereas many people see it as literal. And I think that's the challenge with Christianity and Christians is that too often people see it as literal and therefore they don't fully embrace what it's trying to teach. But anyway, so they came to, this topic came up last night of human design and astrology

and astrology's role in Christianity for example. I had a whole 15-minute lecture about Jesus Christ and how Jesus was the only truth and Jesus in. This could be, I said, if I'm not, what your audience is, because this is a sensitive discussion. but the way I ask myself this question, George, because I want to make sure that whatever I create in the world is aligned with God. However you define God and how you understand God,

for me God is everything, but everything reacts to our attentions and to our thoughts and our ideas. So I was meant to make. sure that when I'm manifesting this platform and it's truly manifesting because we're eight and a half thousand members now or nearly 9,000 which is not a huge amount but it's just the beginning and we have a team of 20 really amazing volunteers that are helping with the project including ania and we're we're steadily slowly but surely manifesting a community and a tool that's going to be very powerful in the world and I want to make sure that I'm doing something

that I'm not doing the devil's work. You know, I want to make sure I want to make sure that I'm contributing something that empowers people not to be evil, but just to accept and love themselves and to teach other people to accept and love yourselves because I'm sure you'll, you seem like a conscious, high vibrational, loving, interesting person

that's done the work. So I can make the, I'll make the assumption that you would agree that the most peaceful thing that we can find within ourselves is self-acceptance and self-love. As soon as we stop giving a shit what other people think about us, when we realize that we're not perfect, it helps us to really find peace. And how are we going to have peace on this earth is if individually we are at peace. Right? Yeah.

Yeah. So if you ask the question, is human design spiritual for me? Yeah, of course it's spiritual for me. It's almost, it almost feels like it was God's map. It almost feels like it's a combination. Like all the different systems that come from the history, for example, astrology. Astrology is actually mentioned in the Bible. Astrology is actually a mention in the Bible. Somebody explained it. It's really, it's been kind of like, I've tossed over and re-reiterated in modern versions of Christianity, but the original Judaism, judicistic perspective of Christianity did include astrology. I think it's Mazarav, something was the name that I was told. So I feel like all of these, like the Shakra system, the Hindu, Hindu Shaka system, are you being philosophy, astrology, all of these things are, are, here and there and they were they were all divinely channeled into the world but not by evil dictators they were channeled into they were channeled into the world by very peaceful beings in most cases for example Buddhism Buddha and who do I want to be who do I want to

who do I want to worship respect and adore is it do I want to worship somebody that the do I want to worship an ideology that that is kind of punishing me for not being perfect or do I want to worship an ideology that just that believes that encourages inner peace and and so on but I said yeah I did sorry I've got on a tangent there but so to answer your question yeah it's deeply spiritual and it's almost like all of these systems have to come together to help us all come to this point in history where we were going to go through this transition page we were going to go through this the cycle. Now at least we have a bit of a blueprint on to how to enable the people that will

carry us through this process. Does that make sense? That's not crazy. Yeah. I love it because spirituality is it's such a broad topic, but I think it's something that most people share. They just have different words for it. You know, you call it the universe or Allah or Muhammad or Buddha or God or Jesus or whatever you were born sort of dictates the ideology with which you worship under. And what I find fascinating about, one of the things I find fascinating about intelligent human design is that you do have these sort of maps that look at astrology, that look at the chakra system.

But isn't it interesting how we look to the planet? planets, but we also look inside ourselves. Outer space and inner space are pretty similar. When you think about the magnitude of space, like, wow, look up at the stars, you just see the magnitude out there. But then you start looking at the gates at your chart, and you're like, wow, look at the magnitude inside of me. Think about all these relationships that are almost infinite, the way I make decisions,

the way that my decision ripples outwards and has an effect on all my relationships from, you know, from South Africa to Singapore, from New York to Hawaii. Like, you can make real changes on the planet by fundamentally changing the way you interact in your environment. It's almost as grand as space in some way. So it's like, it's just this giant magnitude. It is, but it comes from that, that inner awareness and an understanding of who you are and not trying to be on the outside.

I'm not trying to be, yeah. So I completely agree with you. Yeah, and I feel that I don't know, I used to be a conspiracy theorist. Yeah, awesome. I am to a certain extent. Well, there's nothing. Why is conspiracy a pejorative?

There's nothing wrong with it, per se. But what I've realized in this last year or two is that by giving it the attention. actually is feeding into the same kind of fear, lower vibrational energy. So whilst I acknowledge that there is most certainly an evil conspiracy in some way on this planet there's loads everywhere all the time, you know. And they are very fascinating. And I would always, I would never begrudge somebody that was going through that phase of research.

and understanding, but I kind of reached a place where I kind of just accept everything. Right. You know? It's just like, okay, this is just how it is. So I can't really control anything, but I can control with how I show up in the world, and I can control with what I create from that place, right? Yeah. So, yeah, I'm sure your audience will agree.

I know. Where your energy goes is, where your attention goes is where your energy flows. Whatever you're thinking about, whether you're like, what's fascinating to me is that I could bring in two people, and one could be, say, like, a Trump fan, and one could be a Biden fan. And if you didn't say who you were talking about,

they would sound exactly the same. They'd be like, this guy is going to kill us. This guy is going to do it. If you just listen to them, they sound exactly the same, but one wears red and one wears blue. But I think people have to go through these stages, whether they're an activist or they're, you know, a conspiracy, whatever label you want to put on people. I think all of that is necessary. Like, everybody has to figure it out for themselves.

And there's different phases you go through and different things that you see that are real to you. And there's nothing wrong with that. As long as you're investigating and learning, whatever path you take to get to your truth, so be it. Like, who are we to judge those people on some level? I agree entirely because I've been one of those people but I don't know I haven't explained this in a while I can't remember where I learned it or where it came into my consciousness but there was this ideology of the pyramid of consciousness

so where at the bottom of the pyramid is the is based consciousness where you think you're still kind of skin and bones and then there's a next level of consciousness where you realize there's more to life than the physical realm and there's a bit this is a there's a spiritual realm and then there's the next stage where you realize how fucked up everything is and everything is everything's completely wrong and everything's inverted and we've been living a lie and like everything's totally not what we say it is and then there's the next stage in the pyramid where i think that a lot of people are getting to and this is

what's exciting about this time it is because i'm all for humanity i love humanity you know i don't i i i want like with human design i didn't i didn't i i didn't i i i didn't I want to make it more accessible, not because I want to reduce the population. I want to make it more acceptable, accessible so that people can just be who they are. Because as soon as you start being who you are, you don't actually need to consume and all that kind of stuff. And everything would work in a lot more harmony. But anyway, I lost my train of thought there. You talk about the pyramid of consciousness.

Oh, a pyramid of consciousness. Okay, so most people, this is exciting because most people, most people, we've gone through the pandemic was such a great experience. most people were in base consciousness and then spirituality came into question when we started facing death in base consciousness when you're faced with death and you're faced with the proposition of oh you could get this virus or you could die from this vaccine or whatever and then that starts to that is well that's kind of the bridge of spirituality when you have those near-deaf experiences you start to ask like is there more to life and then the next stage is the awareness about

fucked up everything is and then the next stage is when you start to try to fight against it you're like oh my god you start telling all your friends you're posting you become the unpopular person you're posting like you know everybody hates you because you're talking you're you're talking truth and they don't want to face the truth and um and then you go through that stage and then there's a final point and maybe this bit in between but there's a final point where i feel i've got in my personal life is when you you you just get you transcend that and you realize that everything is perfect every like even the pandemic as much as it's evil and it's brought so many problems into the world and it continuously does with some that we could you I wouldn't like as a projector I can see

the whole I can see the whole the whole the whole picture and and it's it's it's it's like we could um these these things that the evil that's happening in the world to some to some extent the perfection of the universe is the in the Jan is that hopefully in the next generation or two, because we're so fucked up and we're so traumatized and we're going through all this hell, that those that do make it into this new paradigm that's kind of unfolding will probably, in essence, be more conscious. But what's a little bit terrifying about that? And sometimes I question, again, my own ideology around that, is that Klaus Schwab was

actually the son of a Nazi. if you read if you read uh if you read uh what's this book um i forget this book uh what's it called plush schwab's book oh the great reset oh yeah yeah i didn't i didn't read the whole thing because he is dr evil after all but i did read i did read the first the first couple of um paragraphs or the first couple of chapters and and it's very interesting because he is at the very beginning of the book. You don't even need to go into the depths of his plan. He openly explains that this whole experience, this whole process has been ushered in to, no, no, sorry, has been brought about to usher in a new age of enlighten them. So this, there's been a conscious effort at the top

of, of the, of the evil pyramid. And don't, don't get me wrong, I would do it totally different. if i had a if if i was uh dr evo i would be doing you know i would be just i think i'd be making mandatory personal development you know and stuff like that but um yeah yeah it's interesting when i think of the you know i remember the the um that video that came out that was like you will own nothing and be happy yeah that sounds great right you know what like it's been i was horrified by it but the more than i realized like like you know what? How happy would you be if you let go of all the crap that you think you need? Like more stuff you let go of, like the more free you are. Maybe if you own nothing, maybe you would be happy.

You know, maybe that is the problem. It's coming back to the dog. But yeah, no, I have, I'm sure you're probably the same. But I have most of my belongings fit into one, into one bag. And I'm thinking, God, that sounds great. I would love to, maybe I can just borrow something. house when I need a house. You know, it just seems it seems a lot less stressful than things. But, you know, we have to be careful because unfortunately these people, these people as much as the root, all good intentions lead to hell, as they say, all paths to, well, what's the phrase? The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Yes. So we have to be very conscious. Yeah, we have to be And that's why I always ask myself with human design. Yeah.

Is it something that's net positive? Is it something, you know? When I think of the symbol, when I think of the symbol, the yin and the yang, what you were talking about. Yeah. Like, I don't think any one group thoroughly has enough power to make an evil plan follow through. Like, if you just think about the symbol of the yin and the yang and the spark of chaos

inside the light and the light inside the chaos. And it's moving in this circle. And like you said, maybe it's all necessary. Like maybe there has to be these waves of dread that cause people or cause the next generation to be changed in a way which will cause the bigger picture to roll out in a way that's possible. Like we have such a small lifespan. Like we think that 100 years is a long time, but it's a blink of an eye in eternity. It's a, it's barely a season, you know.

And for us to think that we're going to be here for the apocalypse is so errant. We're all going to have our own apocalypse. We're all going to be at the front of our own death. But to be here who dies, I don't know, man. That's pretty big. I would argue that we are well and truly into the apocalypse. But, yeah, but I don't think the apocalypse is going to be a big fiery burning mess. I think the apocalypse is just the, as the, let's see, unveiling.

isn't it? It's the unveiling. Yeah, I like that. And it all depends on how you've been living your life and the climate that you have. And that's what's so amazing. It's like, a lot of people look at the, like, the elites. I hate that word. It is a horrible word for the people that you're describing.

They're not elites. That's not, they're not elites. But anyway, so the elites, they, people think, oh, because they've got hundreds of millions of dollars and they've got these big houses and they're treated like VIPs and lots of people follow. and they think that they're living a great life and this is this is something to aspire to but truly if you if you if we if you really understand inner peace and joy and content then the living the way that for example

Hillary Clinton or Joe Biden if he is even made the Joe Biden anymore is questionable but living living living living living the way that they live they're living in pure hell look at their families are you kidding look at their families like what if that that was your family and like like Joe Biden I think a family well may not it may you may not have control over what your kids do or how your parents are but maybe how you solve problems as a family is a pretty good barometer of the kind of person like look at their families like they're disgusting they're they're rotted from the inside out like that is a crubbing but it's it's almost it's multi-dimensional

But it's almost that it's the karma of the collective to receive that kind of experience. And it's almost like the powers of the, they know that Joe Biden is so, so unbelievably corrupt and borderline, just everything. Yeah, yeah, but it's like, well, you get, you reap what you sow. We all reap what we sow. But I'm starting to realize that there is, whilst this is the end of the world for a lot of people that have reaped what they're sold in this lifetime, whether it's on a macro or on a macro scale or a global scale, like for example, like Bill Gates, you know, Bill Gates, he thinks, you know, can you imagine being him? imagine that he's he maybe has his fancy life

and he gets chauffured around and he flies around and he's great but he can't do the simplest of things in life anymore he can't go to play you can't go out in public without we can't go and get a cup of tea

and just watch people and you know and enjoy those things and some might argue well that I would sacrifice those things for great wealth but you would but you're not really going to truly be happy so in some in some cases the beauty and the perfection of this whole experience is that everybody is getting

their right yeah they're right they're right and what i what i love really the most and one one thing that really i love about the human design community and having people participating in our community is that nine times out of ten people that have discovered human design or even people that are actually doing the inner work they have come from some kind of trauma or some kind of negative experience that has pushed them to want to heal and help others and to inspire others and to read others, right? Yeah. And it's human design in particular.

So I truly believe that if you've done, if we've done the work on ourselves and we are, our intentions are to be of service to others and to be kind and to inspire and do that work, then this is not the end of the world. This is just the beginning. Yeah. It seems to me to, yeah, it does. I like to think of it as a metamorphosis on some level. Yeah.

I don't think we have the language to describe what's happening. Maybe we don't have the consciousness to understand what's happening. But yeah, I agree. I think that the old paradigm is dying. And, you know, maybe to some people, the, I don't know, through my life, experience has taught me that the traumas that happen to you tend to be the greatest lessons that you learn from. And it's weird to think about like, it's weird to think about like why your child dying

is a good thing. It's not necessarily that it's a good thing, but there's a lot that you can learn in there. And you don't want to happen. And obviously, you would never choose it to happen if it was in this life and you were with somebody you love like no one wants that to happen but circumstances don't make a man they reveal him and sometimes these things revealed we need to be revealed to ourselves yes which is which i think there's the perfection of the whole experience that we've been through over these last years is because it really revealed people's true nature and it's still to this day shocking just how evil and

uh people many people actually are in this world um but on the on the contrary it's also really amazing how many people are really amazing you know so yeah um and with the the the hope and that i have is that over over time um all the people that have been completely traumatized will start looking towards you learning who they are and their content and the content like yours and and anybody you know just i mean because i can i did have a look at your youtube channel and i saw i saw what this the kind of stuff and that's a So I see what you've been creating and it's like where, you know, where, where it takes a certain kind of person to really gay, you know. But yeah, I'm optimistic for, I'm optimistic for the planet. I'm optimistic for you, man.

It's just going to be a tough period, you know. What do you think when you look at human design on some level, I think that we think that, what we're facing is an epidemic of fear. Like people act out in in ways that are panicked. People act out in ways that seem to be evil or people act out in ways that are different when they're fearful. And it seems that human design, at least for me on some level, allows me to understand why I think the way I do. And that can be an antidote for fear. So I'm wondering, what do you think is the relationship between human design and fear? Well, again, that's a really great question, George.

Thank you. I appreciate it. Well, fear is usually the unknown. Fear is the lack of control. Yeah. Right? But in my experience with human design, the more I understand my own authority and understand who I am.

And just take, for example, one aspect of a chart. So I'll make it real simple for new bees for people to understand human design, but in the human design chart, there's the G center, the identity center, which is like the diamond in the middle. I think it's a diamond. It's underneath your throat,

and it's in the middle. People with that colored in, they have a defined identity, and people with that uncolored in or opened up, have an open, an undefined identity. But what happens when you have an undefined identity is you don't know exactly where you're going. With a defined identity,

you kind of have this awareness this is who I am this is what I'm working on this is what I want you know with an undefined identity you don't actually know who you are and you don't actually know which direction you're going in but it wasn't until human design enlightened me to that the fact that I have an open I have an open G that I suddenly stopped trying to figure out where I was going I stopped I stopped needing to know what was coming next and I started to surrender into the idea that I would be guided and shown and once you start to get once we start to get in Chuch into that place of trust and we know that we're protected and we're watched and

we're guided and we're showing and we allow life to kind of show us the direction and I don't know if you're familiar is it non-action is it not Taoism Taoism maybe Taoist philosophy there's non-action where you where you live every every moment where you don't actually take any action to the things that you desire you allow those things to come to you in that energy of non-action well I've realized that that well those things all of those things combined with with non-action and surrendering into knowing that we're going to be guided you don't actually have that much to fear because you're always taken to the right place and the fear always seems to come from but that's easy for me to say because I'm quite far down the path of you know it's always it's always

easy for the people that have done the work to say this you know but that's that's that's it's it's just the lack of lack of trust really. And human design just allows you to really understand who you are and what your purpose might be and then figure out how to get to in alignment with that. And when you're in alignment, you don't really have to fear anything because everything starts unfolding. You can still attract wealth. You can still attract abundance. You can still attract the right kinds of people because you know how to. Yeah. Yeah. So that answers your question. It's a tough question. It's a tough question. It is. Yeah. And I like what you said about trust, because I think that,

so many of us have a problem trusting that we're doing the right thing. We've been conditioned to think about success as a form of safety. And safety is the antithesis of uncertainty. Because with uncertainty, you'll never know if you're safe. So those two things are at odds with each other. And so this starts to begin this whirlwind of, well, how can I trust that I'll be okay? you just have to believe it. Like you just have to know it.

Because if you don't know what, you're either going to get trapped in the future, which is anxiety, you're trapped in the past, and you're forgetting to live the most important part of your life, which is right now. There's no problems right now. You and I have a conversation.

Yeah. It'll continue to work out this way, you know. Well, that's a great point, George. And coming back to, from a financial abundance perspective, because a lot of fear is, rooted in not having enough and lack. And I,

the thing that took me the longest to figure out, but I finally have really gotten the grasp of it, was the question and the idea is like how you, like let's say, for example, you're somebody that's really struggling financially and you don't know how you're going to be able to super pay your bills and you're worried about that you're going to be homeless and you've got all this fear about what's going to happen in the future,

which is probably happening all over the world right now, particularly in the West. When you're living in that perpetual state of fear and anxiety, then all you're going to keep creating is more fear and anxiety. And it comes back to, well, let me ask myself two questions. One, have I ever run out of money? Have I ever truly run out? Have I ever truly not had enough?

And the answer is always one. because I would be dead. I would still hear. I'm still going. So I've always had enough, right? So, okay, we can surrender into that. We can trust that, that truth. And the second, the second question is,

in this very moment, not the future, not the past, but in this very, very moment, do I have enough? Most, most of the time, unless you're completely and not really fucked, excuse my French, but unless you're totally, I can't afford a bus fare kind of situation, usually you are actually more, you actually have more than enough. You have, like, as long as you've got, like, for example, even if you only have $50, but you know you had lunch and you had somewhere to live and you had, you had dinner and everything was going to be fun, you actually in that moment have abundance.

you have more than enough. Yeah. Right? So if we continuously practice that awareness, then in actual fact, that that is ultimately what manifests the abundance and the wealth. And people are like, oh, fuck, you know, the new age, manifestation abundance kind of stuff. And YouTube's been giving me all these, ever since I started questioning, human design and Christianity, YouTube keeps giving me videos about,

the new age the new age scam and all this kind of stuff and I've been I've been listening to listening to a lot of their points of view and and Jesus is the only truth and Jesus and I can't help but feel that it's that well I think there's actually truth in all in all of them you know yeah I do right so I'm not sure where I was going with that but yeah one thing that I found too is that I'm almost 50 now. And I spent a lot of time, you know, doing what I thought was the right thing to do. And I'm I'm, I'm proud of what I've built and I'm proud of what I had. But I got to a point in my life where, you know, I wasn't happy getting up and going to work. And the pandemic was a real wake-up call

for me, you know? And I would work like 70, 75 hours a week as a truck driver and just like, I just don't have enough. Like, I'm never home. you know, if I could just make a little bit more money, then I can go on vacation, then I could get a card, it's not a total piece of shit, and, you know, then I'll probably be happy, you know. And like, it's on some level, it's almost like an illness, this desire to be attached to the word more. And what I learned is that the more money I made on some level, it took away from the things that were really important in my life.

And an example of that is, I was never home. I didn't help my daughter with my homework. My wife was, she was working, she was paying the bills, she was doing everything at home, and I would just be out working. So what kind of life is that? Like, would you rather, and my question to myself was like, would you rather make an additional $20,000 and work an additional 20 hours a week on top of the 70 already working? Or would you rather make, would you rather leave that job and move home and be with your family,

all the time. And maybe that I didn't either or, but for me it was, it was like, you know what, I can't do it anymore. Like, I've tried everything. I've tried to make as much as possible. And the more harder I try to do it, the shittier my life is the more that I see I'm missing on. And so it's like, okay, I'm not going to do it. And let me try this other way. And it's hard. It's very difficult to break the conditioning that success is money, but it's not. That's bullshit. Success is not money. Success is having people in your life that love you. is having a roof over your head maybe, maybe having a little bit of food in the fridge. But being there in the present moment with the people you love, that is well.

And people that in the Western world, like I know tons of people that have like a $500,000 house, they don't own it. They're like $1,000 in debt. Like is that person in abundance or is that person in debt? That person's in debt. Like the way to have abundance is trying to get out of debt. But you can never do that when you're trying to buy more and more and more. It's like this giant illusion in front of you.

and it's trapping you deeper and deeper and deeper in the Western world. We're trapped in on this. You know what the symbol of the Western world should be the treadmill? There should be flags with treadmills. Because no one goes anywhere. They're just running in place, man. Yeah, no, it's one of the reasons I can't be there myself. Because I'd love to go home and see my family.

I'd love to be in Scotland, but it's just not. I can't really. Why can't you? Like, is it that fatality? or maybe you could speak to that like is that what made you leave it's yeah it's it's it's well it's the dog they need to come back to the dog um but no it's yeah it i could cope with it i could cope with it i could cope with it and i could be there and i'm sure it would be very very beneficial to be there from myself and for the people there and at some point in time i i will go back um but in this in this moment in

time it's like I'm kind of choosing to make a sacrifice and that's coming back to what you're saying about the work because it's the same I'm like I miss like you but I trade my why am I doing this like well I should just be home with my mom you know like I should be home with my grandmother and it's also a question that I ask myself but then I sometimes I sometimes wonder is like am I just fighting the modern day war I'm I just on the modern day battle field of like, okay, I could, I would love to be there with my mom, but there isn't much going on in Scotland. It's a very, it's a very conservative, boring place. Whereas in where I'm out right now, I can, I can minimize my expenses. My life consists of surfing and yoga and meditation and chilling

and it's, and but but not because I'm doing that to be selfish, but because I'm doing that because I have to in a sense that if I can create something that is going to change people's lives and contribute comatically in my lifetime, then I guess that's that's valuable. But it comes at a massive expense, not being able to be close to my, to my mom, for example. I don't know if you still have your, if your mom's still around, but is she still around? Yeah, she is. Yes. And she's probably quite close to you, I guess. No, I'm in Hawaii. And my mom is.

in the mainland. Am I the mainland? So you'll know what I mean. All alone over here. Yeah. Yeah. So you know this, it's that feeling, right? So we're kind of, it's almost like where this is the third, the third world war is not a big nuclear war like everybody is kind of a program to expect. But it's, it's a war on our souls. It's a war on our spirits. It's a, it's a war on our freedom. It's a war on our happiness. It's a war. It's about crushing us so that, so that certain people can, can maintain their, their control, but ultimately we know that's not going to work. They know that's not going to work, but they're going to keep going on it for as long as we can. And then as long as they can, sorry, Freud and it's a Freud slip.

No, I was a very good politician. So we can keep going, they can keep going as long as they can. But there are people like me, you, um, and others that are dedicating our lives to work, to bring other people into awareness, into consciousness, to help people to see so that they're not sucked up into this clan, you know? And from that perspective, I feel like,

well, we have to do that. We're fighting that battle for humanity. On our own macro scale, you know, then what the, I'm sure if I asked my grand, who I know is the most loving, She's the most loving, amazing human being. Right now she's not doing great because of, I would say, from my prognosis, something to do probably with the fact that she's at four COVID vaccines.

But we, you know, just that's up to her debate, but she's not, she's not doing, she's not doing great. But I know that one of the reasons that I haven't, I don't rush back to going to be by higher side because I know, like if I talk to her in my soul and I ask her, I say, grand what would you rather in this moment in time would you rather I was there holding your hand and being by your side and comforting you during this period of time or would you rather that I was doing the work that I have to do for my soul for my purpose and I'm pretty sure that she's gonna I know which one she's going to option B for sure right so but there's always

it's the end and the yang and everything isn't it there's like I know every every cloud it has a silver lining but you know i do know what you mean so yeah i hope that's been an insightful yeah do you think there's any like ethical considerations that arise when blending human inspiration with AI algorithms and self-development um absolutely absolutely 100 um there's ethical considerations there's lots of ethical considerations As an ethical person, I'm not like Marks out, Mark Creeperberg that can go in, what, 100,000 children went missing because of Instagram? Well, we just built tools, sir, you know.

I'm never going to be, I'm never going to be like that, you know. I can't, I can't just sweep 100,000 people's lives under the carpet for the sake of building a business in the way that. Mark Zuckerberg did so clearly recently. I don't know if you know what I'm talking about, you know, his latest hearing. Did you hear about that? I saw it, but I'm not exactly sure what happened. I saw.

So basically what happened and this was the, all of the social media people were called up in a Congress, I guess, or whatever it is, to discuss the issue of missing children because of their platforms. They had parents, the people that had been adopted from have been abducted because of Facebook and because of Instagram sitting in the audience. And the senator, I forget who it was, I think it was Ron Paul, maybe I'm wrong.

The senator was talking to Mark Zuckerberg and saying, do you take any responsibility for the fact that there's been so many people that have been abducted and murdered because of Instagram? And he says, well, sir, we just build tools. We just build tools. How people use those tools is not our. is not our concern. That was his mindset. Probably not, so probably is, I'm probably that little smidgen of soul he's got left in there.

If there is anything in there, well, would have probably been like, no, that's not really how I, that's not really how he feels. But with his, with his position with investors and the pressure that he's under, he has, and lawyers and so on, he has to just say whatever the lawyers are going to tell him to say. And he can't admit liability, because if he admits, liability then he's going to be up shit's creep but my my my my I'm that's not as a as an individual I have maintained I like to think at least 95% of my soul and I I would like to I would like to make sure that moving for a hundred percent sorry that was that was a job by the moment but you know

I don't I would like to moving forward I'd like to make sure that whatever we do never never becomes is something that is going to be dangerous and harmful. So the ethical aspects of integrating AI with human design, I feel like because of human science nature as a system, it can be digested and regurgitated as a system. But if, for example, you were asking you the question, like as I've actually registered the domain name, confess, bot,

So confess, but also tarot I considered as well. But then I realized that with those concepts, tarot and tarot, tarot, the issue is that you're fucking with people's destiny. Excuse my French. It's really that, it's really that, sorry, that's not professional, but that's how we roll at HDAI. So I realized that that's messing with people's destiny. Whereas what we're doing with human design.a.I,

the chatbot doesn't in itself tell people how to live their life. It just reminds them what the system is encouraging them to follow. But it allows them, it gives them the tools to be able to use their own intuition or their own gut or their own feelings to be able to make the decisions that actually affect their lives. so we don't from an ethical perspective i don't want i don't want AI to make decisions for your life we want to use the AI to help you to make

the decisions for yourself so you don't rely on AI to make decisions you know yeah we're yeah um that answers your questions and i totally it's interesting that you bring up the idea of like have you given thought to the idea that like let's say

next year at this time. Instead of having like 8,000, you have 800,000, or you have 8 million. Imagine having not only the, not only the, your dreams come true, but exceed all possible thoughts that you thought were possible. And imagine like the money that comes in from different sponsors and stuff like that. It would be almost impossible to not, to be responsible for all of the, things that would happen. There would be tons of people that would be like, you know, because of this,

I read my human design chart and I had this AI thing and then like that, that caused me to do this thing with my kid. Like it would be impossible, right? Like that kind of stuff would happen at a certain level, don't you think? Yeah, yeah, that's a great. That's a great point. So from a, from a data perspective, so from a data perspective, we, I'm very data.

I'm not no no ironically I'm not although we have a lot of data I'm not data driven but I'm data conscience so so so so for it's been very important to me since the offset of this platform that whoever gives the data to us that I will I will guard it with my own integrity and my own my own ideology in a sense that we will never sell people's data we're not using it to manipulate them. We're not doing anything. We're just using the data. We're not even really using the data at this stage.

We will probably use the data more comprehensively in time. And those ethical questions and will I be able to maintain the pressure of the external forces? I feel that I've been very well, going into too much detail and without we don't have to go into my books and the whole process. leading up to this. Yeah.

I feel like I've been very blessed with experiences in my life that will own, that they're so strong and so powerful that they will only allow me to operate in a way that I can, I will live in an integrity because to a certain extent, no, I've not been, it's not, it wasn't that bad, but to a certain extent I've been to hell and I don't want to go back. Does that make sense? I want to I've

right now in my life even having a platform with 8,000 members and growing and people like so many things to deal with I still feel a persistent

state of peace and calmness and no anxiety and no stress and and if I really feel that the only reason that I can do that

is the maintain that is by maintaining my integrity but you know, time will tell. Like this is also the,

this is a Pandora's box and I'm going to be banished to a lifetime of fiery hell because I introduce the dark arts. These are contemplations though, George, you know? These are really, you know. Well, they should be like,

there's a real possibility. Like I think that when people begin to create, especially when people begin really believing, in what they can do, like there comes a test. You know, how far can you go? Like, when you begin creating something

and the thing that you create begins creating abundance for other people, like the unintended consequences that come with that are unknowable, you know, and when something grows so big, so fast, and it's so miraculous, it can't help but have a dark underside to it.

I mean, that's just the nature of the world, and we don't know what that is and how we react to it. We don't know until we're there. Well, yeah, yeah, my biggest concern is an individual to touch on that, George, is the government. So I feel like I've been given somewhat of a green pass thus far to develop this project. They even had support from Microsoft and had support from kind of local government in the UK. But I think that's because they don't really fully understand the potential.

of what it is that we're creating. But in time, that might become apparent to them, as particularly as the community grows. And it's something that I've often pondered upon and what the repercussions of that and what influence that government and governmental and commercial interests will have when we have such a massive data set

because we do have a very particular data set. And that's something. that does need to be considered consideration. But I mean, as a, I don't, I know it's words or actions and our actions are more powerful than words, but as it stands, we are, we are in the process of negotiating a financial backer for the project. But the reason it's taken such a long term to long time to find that financial backer is because from the very offset it was very important for me to work with somebody that had the right heart and the right soul and the right intentions so we will we will raise investment from conscious investors with good intentions with a

good heart and as part of the the the deal to do that if that whole thing goes ahead is that the the data will be stored in in a I don't know exactly how they've explained it to me But to summarize it, it means that the day, everybody's data will be highly protected and owned by them. So we're kind of building those fundamentals into the platform from the offset with the idea that when it gets to that point where we have so much control and so much power, that's going to be inherently built into the system so that I'm not part of that. I'd really like to remove myself as soon as possible from the equation, George, really. like as soon as possible. And we're working towards that. The team right now, everybody's finding their feet.

But eventually we will have other. The business will be entirely independent on me. And my job, my role from that point in time, George is just to be as kind and as abundant and to be a service to as many people as possible and to lead the integrity and the vision of the company and trust that whatever I created is, is for the great good and I'm not being led by demonic spirits.

You know, there's always a concern. So if I ever feel, that's the thing, if I ever feel like it's becoming something that is not good, then I will always be reflecting on it for the entirety. Then I'll just, I'll find a way to, we'll find a way to stop it. You know, we want, you have to make the joke on the group calls. You know, it's like, well, what are we doing? What happens if the AI becomes self.

sufficient and then five years down the line you've got a voice that pops up in your hand is like you're not following your strategy you must follow your strategy did i create that you know but i'm not sure i don't think i don't think we have to worry too much about the going to mainstream because unfortunately it's it's beyond most people but we don't have to be mainstream to have real effect on the world. Yeah, you really don't. You need to have, I don't know what anybody really needs to have, but the power of spirituality is a force that can have real recourse in the world.

And it doesn't take a large number, you know. It just takes a small sect of believers to make change, you know. And throughout the world, whether you read Philip K. Dickna, or whether you look back at the Homeric verses or wherever you look in history or even in fiction or in anywhere. Like you can see a religious or spiritual foundation as a catalyst for change. And I can't help but look at human design and see that spiritual nature. You know, if you listen to some of the harmony or the songs that are coming out of different parts of the world, the stories that are written you know you hear this echo of a world religion that's coming about

in some ways i think human design fits that bill you know what i mean it kind of it's an internal look inside and it's a spiritual thing that everybody can be part of and like what do you think about human design as a as a world religion well that's a that's a question well yeah when it translates into AI yeah yeah yeah well that's a good question hmm well it would certainly be a world it would be beneficial for everybody to to understand who they are from from a very early age and then and then operate from that and be of service and to others from that perspective That's for sure.

If it is the new religion that's going to take over the world and it's going to replace all other religions, and that's a little bit more than I'd expected of my lifetime. But if that's how it's meant to be, that's how it's meant to be. I don't believe that things would work for us. I'm not practicing black magic or spells. I'm not sacrificing any goats or babies. or anything like that for for the success that has come through the platform it's all come it's all come through me being as kind and abundant and loving as possible so i i trust that

that because that's what's that that's why it was born from that's what it's good that's what's going to continuously come come from it and if it is going to become somewhat of a world religion then i still hope that we have other religions in there as well um Because I feel like you can teach people how their energy works, but you can't, there needs to be some framework around morality. It's to stop us destroying ourselves. I don't know if you've ever seen, there's a video that circulates, maybe it's just my little cosmos of videos that comes. But I saw a great video the other day that was talking about Dubai and a lot of the countries are so safe. You can leave your, like you can leave your car.

our keys stuck in the car and nobody's going to steal your Bentley, you know, because they are so strict with morality and, yeah, morality, basically. And the challenge in the West, what we're, what is the lack of responsibility and morality is, has caused people who've got this idea that God, there is no God, there is no divine power. So I can do whatever I want. I can drive by this guy and smash something off of him if I want to. Sometimes you see crazy people doing that. And it's like there's no... So whilst human design, human design doesn't really teach morality. So if it was a world religion, it would severely lack that aspect of it.

But maybe also that could be part of the agenda or the plan. But I'm not sure. That's another one to point. I'll maybe have to ask the mushrooms that one, George. I'll come back to you on that one. Yeah. I'm glad you brought that up. I think that on some level, I think the mushrooms on some level and human design and where we're going in the not too distant future is a different state of awareness, a higher form of awareness.

You know, when I look at people that find themselves an altered states of consciousness, you know, I'll use that term, I guess, whether it's psychedelics or spirituality seems to be a vehicle that can allow you to transcend the state that you're currently in. You know, it's almost like in all of these states you bump up against the problem of language. where it's it's the ineffable it is this thing that's on the tip of your tongue but there's no linguistic pathway for you to explain it and if you look at if you look at like you know some of the prophets be it in the different holy books like you see people that are trying to translate the divine message to other people you know translation means interpretation and i think that's where we've been going everybody's everybody's been doing that for century that we're trying to figure out how to put it into words.

You know, and that's the, that's kind of the irony of it is that you can't actually put it into, what you can't truly put it into words. You can only experience it, but if you can, the only way to really experience it. The funny thing is, I was, I was, I didn't know my human design, but I was living in alignment with my human design without realizing my human design. in a sense that I was making so many decisions based on my intuitive hits and using that as a guiding as a guiding force. So in a long story short, I had been very much in alignment with my purpose and by just doing that. So if we can get every, if we get people can align with their purpose,

Not necessarily, have you ever read Eckhart-Tall? Of course. Okay, I think it's a new earth. The power of now. Sure. So there's one, there's one particular line from those books that really, I don't know which book it is, but it really, really stuck with me for a very long time, is that we have an inner purpose and an outer purpose.

So our inner purpose is to seek enlightenment. Enlightenment for everybody is, is their own interpretation. me personally enlightenment is is just peace inner peace just aware and you're peace with everything we realize that everything is is happening for the great of good and obviously there's always going to be more we can always expand on things with the psychedelics we can always go deeper with the mushrooms and get that get more more self-awareness more awareness but the outer purpose is is something that contest consistently evolved over time, right?

So when you were younger, when I was younger, your purpose was maybe slightly different to what is right now. But that's because your inner purpose became more, you became more conscious, right? What was the question again, George? Got off a bit of a tangent. States of awareness and how we seem to be moving into a higher state of awareness, be it through meditation or religion or psychedelics or breath work or all these methods people are doing they seem like we're we're transcending this older version of ourselves maybe our inner purpose is beginning to shine through as a whole well that's i think yeah that's something about i was going with that but yeah yeah yeah so it's 430 now so my brain stops working about yeah yeah but yeah no so yeah we we are we are all we're something

people are choosing a higher consciousness and somewhere else but this is this is a whole different that's a whole different to rabbit hole to go down and again back to the Christian teachings the Christian teachings like they say that demonic forces come to you through psychedelics and through and I and I and I I don't know I I reflect back on my own life George and I wonder where would I be where I'm at right now and I gauge where I'm at right now not based on my financial success or my business success I gauge my where I'm up now on how I feel and how I feel right now and how I feel right now on an inside on like in my inner,

like my inner feeling is bliss. Yeah. And peace and joy and abundance, but not in the like abundance, abundance, but it's like, it's just like I actually actually feel it, you know, it's like I'm not, I'm not just telling myself I feel it. It's just, I feel, I feel it. So, so it's, it's with that inner peace and. I keep losing my train.

I thought now, George. Not up. Yeah. In a peace. Interpiece and abundance. Living a life worth living. It sounds like you're living a life worth living. I'm worth it.

I'm living in life worth living. Yeah. Yeah. And that's kind of the whole point behind me being able to operate this platform is I have to live exactly the way that I'm supposed to live. But yeah, I'm going to wrap. We're going to come. Maybe we can wrap it off because I'm, yeah, it's been a long one.

my brain. Yeah. Well, before I let you go, first off, Kyle, this is an amazing conversation. And I appreciate you taking the time to be open and honest. And one of them that, help people understand this relationship of what you're building between human design and AI. It's a fascinating conversation. And before I let you go, what can people find you? What do you have coming up and what are you excited about?

People can obviously find me on human design. I try to try not to be on social networks too much but that that's the best place to find me what what's coming up in terms of in terms of business and so on is everything what's the question what's coming up in terms of my inner self or yeah um yeah i'm just i'm just um yeah i'm grateful for for this this call because these are all questions that have all kind of been like stewing within me and it's good that this is going to be documented so if it ever does become an 800,000 people members using the platform and if we ever get to that stage I really hope that people will come back to this podcast and watch this and actually and actually see the true

intentions behind the work so from that perspective yeah thank you appreciate you Of course. Okay, well, hang on briefly afterwards. I'll just talk to you real briefly afterwards, but everybody spending time with us today, I really appreciate you being here. I hope you have a beautiful day. Go out Kyle.

Go down to the show notes. Check out what he's got going on. If you're interested in human design, if you're interested in AI, then it's definitely the spot that you'll definitely want to go and look at and do some investigation for yourself. I hope everybody has a beautiful day,

and I hope you realize there's a little miracle waiting to happen to you. Listen to this right now. That's all we got, ladies and gentlemen. Aloha. You know,