TrueLife - Luke Harris & Robert Brown - Comedy, Creative ideas, & Compassion

Episode Date: June 22, 2023

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Luke Harris, Robert Brown. you may know him from uh Luke's got a few books out the Dream Diaries Robert's a business owner a commentator and they're both content creators they have their own podcast

comedy team super cool guys super stoked you guys are here today welcome to the show man hold them up so we can see there man is that three of them Luke I got all three of them whoa

man so for those who may not know what that's the dream series right there yeah the Dream Diaries It was a brainchild of an idea back in high school. I had a buddy, you know, in the 90s people wanted to make easy, cheap films like, you know, Go and Night of the Rocksbury's, just some cheap stuff. And he wanted, you know, something simple. And I'd worked on movie scripts and comic books and stuff.

my imaginations out there and my brothers and my dad were out in Hollywood. So I had access to movie scripts and was fiddling around with it. And I came back with a movie script that was Vampires versus Bikers, which was a little high budget for a high school kid. So, you know, that ended up being what the second book is. This was my script I carried around in Hollywood. and it basically takes place in 24-hour period. So when we went to write it as a book,

I broke it into each hours, like a chapter. So, and then we had to go back and, you know, create a backstory for the, you know, resident town, sage, Obi-1 kind of character that was helping everyone. And in my book, she's a teenage witch, a little bit more on the gothic side, and she gets approached by the biker gang

to find one of their buddies that got kidnapped at a party. Nice. And this buddy ended up being her ex-boyfriend, so she's not real keen on helping out. But she likes the leader of the biker gang. So, you know, she's not. got some interest in it, invested interest. But, you know, we had to go back and tell her origin story.

So that's where the tie-in came in with the whole dream diaries, and nightmares being the first book. Because basically she's kind of like a hellboy, ghost investigator, but paranormal. You know, in a real sense, exorcist fights, monsters, the things under the bed, that kind of stuff. So I went real archaic with, okay, you know, what if she fought the boogeyman or the monster in the closet? You know, what would be like the basic essence of this? And the main, the first main bad guy she fights feeds off of fear. And this was way before we started hearing about the adrenachrome and feeding off of, you know, adrenalized blood and stuff like that.

Yeah. So he, when the bad guy, when he does it, It's more like a voodoo witch-doch-a-type of thing, and he's breathing it in like dogs and bees can smell fear. And that's kind of how he is. And, I mean, we really wish we had you over our streamyard because we got pictures of everything that we're doing. Because I also went to college as a classically trained oil portrait painter.

You know, I just looked at the catalog and picked one. But now, I did illustration and comic books. like I said. So I've got the ideas drawn out. I'm too lazy to do a lot of things myself. So I'm trying to build up a bigger team. And, you know. We sit down and we done the, what's it called Z-brush?

We tried to Z-brush out all of his characters and make them into 3D models. And that was during the first year of our podcast. Yeah, he's always been supportive. but we can we can touch base on you know how he and I became a creative team but um Robert do you want to tell that story well I mean um so I I was a millwright for those of you that don't know what a mill ride is is an overpaid mechanic really I a millwright's title going to construction sites you can do anything seriously when I say anything you can lay concrete you can set the metal, he set the foundation, set the pumps,

install the equipment down to a thousandth of an inch. That was my trade. And I went out to a job, and of course, doing these jobs, you learn the safety is the same on every job. They give you a test at the beginning of every job, and it becomes boring. So there are few people like me who sit there and make fun of everything that the safety instructor is trying to tell you.

So Luke was a safety man for that company And the safety guys I was a regional safety guy And the local safety guys Were sick of being heckled It was R.J and his buddy Cole Were like the two critics on the Muppet show Just sitting there heckling in the back of the safety meeting about

Okay guys you should wear your gloves gloves Who needs them? They're just heckling. And these grown men are being brought to tears by other grown men. And that's industrial construction. So he gets there and he says, by my, he comes in with a British voice. So, right. No, I got to get to that. So I learned Spanish and Portuguese in South America because I've been all over the place.

You're out in Hawaii, right, George? I am. Yeah. So I'm from Guam, but I'm not native Guamanian. Okay. Just military family flying around and whatever. We've been everywhere. But I spent some time in South America,

I learned Portuguese and Spanish, and so it messed up my American. And I had some guy I was living with, he's like, hey, y'all sound like you work at Taco Bell when you speak American. We're like, no, man, we speak English. Just fine. So, like, the Chileans speak British. So I studied English again.

with my landlord and I came back with a British accent and I would use that in the safety course because this lady tried to cancel an OSHA class I was taking and she's like well you know we try to send an email I'm like look love if I don't get this course done by the end of the week I'm going to go back home I don't get this job she thought home was across the pond yeah and so I showed up at this job you know putting on air as British accent I'm like yeah but on my calculations I can give all of you two hours on the tool or we can go out to eat. My attitude doesn't change. I'm still heckling.

They're like, we'll go out to eat. So I said, I'll take the dinner. They sent me an address. And I just go out there because it was by my hotel in Pennsylvania where we were at Harrison. And I'm parked at. It's kind of shady. It's like a building was sort of under and underpass. It was so weird.

I'm like, this is starting to seem like I'm being punked. Hannah's on Anna. Anna's on Hannah. Neither one of us can remember. It was a strip club. But, you know, like I said,

I had art background, and I was a teacher's assistant at a university, full nude, down the hill from BYU, where we could draw fully naked people. But, um,

and so I'm like, oh, I was there before then, and I was waiting. I'm like, If they don't show up, I'm going to make fun of them. Right. But tell them about how it was.

It was such great. Yeah, it was a really nice environment. One of the girls in there even knew more about the construction job we were at than we did. Imagine that. Yeah. She was an engineer. And one of the things that was really fun was this girl was in there talking to us about what we do for our jobs. And look, I'm going to take you right now.

I, some of my best friends are welders and pipe fitters and stuff like that. And going into a restaurant and stuff or a strip club, even, wherever, when you're on the road, you go out there and there's so many times that people go, what do you guys do? And when I say I'm a mill rider, but I just, I don't understand that. But when the girls go to the guy that says, I'm a welder, of course, all the girls know a welder makes money. Yeah. So they're all over them. And I've spent so many times telling strippers, I'm like, look, welders are dumb.

Okay, if you want to make money and you want to get the guy that's got the money, go after the mill rights. That's the people, the engineer. That's the people used to be going. It was just, it was a funny, there were a couple funny things we share on our intro for our podcast, our story, how we met kind of thing. But there were two other funny things. The shape of the bar and the catwalk made it. So, like, they had a serving wench, had a crescent moon bar in between the bar and the catwalk. Can you know what a catwalk?

But, you know, I was the one of the British accent, but Robert and Cole started to be like, excuse me, ma'am, how just one insert the bill from here over to that? And she's like, just ward it up and throw it. I'm from Oklahoma. I'm a southern man. My mom would say this. And here in Oklahoma, if you wad up your dollar bill and throw it at the stripper, that is very disrespectful. Right, right. You hand her the money like a gentleman. Right.

And I'm like, no, no. If I throw money at her back home, they're going to come out here and stab me with a high hill. That's not racky. I'd rather just put it in her teeth. and call it a day. Right. Like a gentleman. The other funny part was there was between acts, there was a lady janitor in a janitor's

smock and everything, jumpsuit with a bucket and a mack coming out to clean up. Before that was ever a thing. Before that was even a thing. And so then tell them what happened. So this lady comes out. She's probably 350 pounds. I mean, she's a big girl. and she's walking out with her bucket and her mop walking right towards the stage and the man comes over the microphone

ladies and gentlemen please give it up for Cheyenne I look over at least dude if that's Cheyenne I'm leaving right now as she starts shaking her head and turns right around and goes off stage she gets right to the steps and turns and walks away I don't know if they meant to do that like if Cheyenne's her name and they're like It's totally But you know After that we were fast friends

They did anything I told them to do I mean I just had to do hand signals for putting on their gloves The other safety guys were like how do you do that? It's like you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar Right Then we disappeared from each other after that job ended We didn't talk to each other anymore We had no need to converse or anything like that

So we went our separate ways as it is on a job site. I mean, every time you go to a new job site, you're building a relationship with this new family. And then when the job site's over with, you leave and you never speak to these people again. If you're lucky, you run home down the way sometime. But I was scrolling through TikTok probably a year later. And there he is on TikTok. Yep. And I had my teenage daughters.

I know that guy. went from musically to ticot and so i was just keeping track of all the trends and they hated that i know everything and i opened my phone to find his number maybe it's the same one you know right i said i was like hey dude i just seen you on ticot and we started conversing again um we both found out that we have daughters born within a week of each other yeah his daughter has vampire fangs like me kind of weird but so i mean our relationship picked back up there and he had a friend that they were talking about doing a podcast. And this kind of ties into one of the questions you ask us, fear, you know.

The other guy kept, he always had an opinion about everything. But he didn't have a whole lot of experience in the construction field and he was one of these assistant project manager type of things. And I knew he was coming up on the chopping block to get laid off. And it was pre-COVID layoffs and everything. And I was a corporate safety guy. I knew I wasn't going nowhere. But I said saying, hey, man, as a backup plan, let's do a podcast.

You know, you take care of the sports, restaurants, and any time you have an opinion about everything, he was an odd duck. He's one of the few Democrats I know that was gun-toting and love guns. But he wasn't like too anal about being. big beautiful and black and a Democrat but you know he he was always asking questions because I was the only Mormon white guy vampire he knew and you know politically I'd always ask my wife hey what are we voting this year and it would change but we had another buddy he's just he was more annoying and he just always assumed the worst of me but it was fun

to have the back and forth but lo and behold he wouldn't do it And so I always complained to Robert on my drive home because I'm driving from Cincinnati to Dayton's about an hour sometimes. And they made it worse. I'm like an hour and 20 minutes now. So I got three hours every day to entertain myself somehow. Right. He calls me and he says, I really want to do this podcast. You know, I think it's a really fun idea.

And I think it's something that we could do. And I was like, and he won't do it with you. And he goes, no, he won't do it. And I was like, give me an hour and call me back. During this hour, I've got a little shed in my backyard. I ran an Ethernet court, a 50-foot Ethernet cord all the way out to my shed. Yeah. Put up a little wooden desk in there, hung up, flag in the background, and we went with it.

He came up with the logo, too. Nice. You know, and I didn't even knew he knew how to use a computer. Fear, when you ask about Fear, you know, you ask, what is your relationship to fear? And that's a really good question. I'm not afraid of anything. Nothing?

Hang on, we'll get to, there's one thing. There's one thing that I am afraid of. Okay, okay. And I am deathly afraid of. When it comes to public speaking, making a fool of myself, taking off my clothes in public, I don't care. I'm not afraid of it. But spiders.

I will strip down naked and run through my town down Main Street. But when it comes to spiders, I will squill like a little girl. That seems to be part of every person I've known that is afraid of spiders. They, for some reason, their clothes fall off too. Like when the spider shows up, it's not on you. It's still right there. It's just, it's okay. Well, see, my lady, she'll tell me that my right.

relationship with spiders is even weird because as long as it's over there and i know it's over there i'm fine with it i just don't want to touch any of me what about spider man oh i'm cool with spider man every weekend okay that comes to my fear um my wife's a redhead so you know most of our costumes for holloween uh revolves around that and she was uh mary jane watson and i was I did the Toby McGuire Spider-Man. I had a full-on suit. Nice. And she was teaching elementary school, and she's like,

hey, it'd be fun if you brought some Halloween candy to the kids. And it was just her kindergarten class. And they brought me out to the playground, and it was the entire elementary school. And she's got some pictures and stuff. And we're showing this to my daughters in a scrapbook. And I'm like, that's the day. I almost died.

So I started handing out candies to the kids. and they started just crowding around me and then start pulling me down and I'm doing the math like 40 pounds times about 100 oh my gosh I'm gonna die so I threw all these kids off of me and start throwing candy around get them away and then I beeline it to the the monkey bars and it was just like you know World War Z all these kids clamoring on top of each other and Spider-Man's up on top looks at the sideline my fiance and the other teachers are all all happening and it's all funny but I'm seeing a flash the news report in my head local man died today dressed up as spider man trampled by dozens of kids I'm like totally this is what's going to

happen and the other little kids on the outside that weren't climbing up are all chanting shoot your what I'm like I got nothing kids and so I don't know how I got down but some towel I somersaulted whatever got behind the teachers and then the bell rang finally and it was that day I realized I realized it's not that I'm afraid of little kids, it's afraid of crowds coming after me. I can speak in front of a crowd, teach in front of people, give speeches and stuff, be in a crowd, be in a concert. But when the crowd turns on you, I don't care who you are. They always say it's fight or flight. No, it was bold.

I'm going to throw everybody out of the way and then run. and keep fighting until it's it just you don't know until you're in that kind of life and death situation what you're going to do the fear is real man the fear is real whether it's a group of radical kindergartners coming after your candy or whether it's a janitor stripper who I don't even know if you want to see dance on stage or maybe it is being down at Epstein Island. You know, it's, I don't know, man. The fear is out there, right? The fear is out there.

Oh, man. Well, and I love to make fun of Luke's fear being attacked by children because, you know, it's one of those things where I'm a 34-year-old man. I think I could kick any kindergartner's ass. I'm not scared of kindergarten. It's wrong, no, right? It's wrong, no. You don't feel it at all. I mean, when you punch punching bags and grown men or like walls, you can feel it.

But little kids, you don't feel it at all. It's like, you can't feel nothing. You're just trying to get out of there. Your discretion, Luke really doesn't punch little kids. We have to put a disclaimer across the bottom of our screen. We've got a ticker that just go. Yeah, I was watching. I was watching some of your stuff, and it seems like you had a show about lesbians a while back where you got pretty pissed off at you guys.

That's a good one. So, yes, that was a very good show. We had a supporter at the time who was lesbian, and we were meeting up in Springfield, Missouri. Look at myself. We had to go there to meet up to do some stuff. That was first book release tour. I live in Oklahoma, and he lives. in Ohio.

So we meet up at collecticons and stuff like that to promote his book, promote the podcast and everything else. And we were meeting up in Springfield, Missouri. And these people were like, can we meet up with you guys? We'd love to meet you guys. And I'm like, yeah, sure, come on. So we paid for their motel room and they come up and hung out with us. Make it sound so weird.

Like, hey, we, we got a hotel room with a couple of lesbians. It's going to be great. My old lady was there too. It's fine. Okay. She likes to watch. So in that podcast, we had them there. We weren't even scheduled to really do a podcast that night, but we thought, you know, why not?

We've got them here. Let's ask a bunch of questions that were too stupid to really know about the lesbian lifestyle, right? The questions that you always wanted to ask? I think we went through the A to Z. of, you know, the LGBT. You know, that's what we should have done that episode like that. But it was, it kind of just happened. Yeah.

And that's one of the things that we really strive for. We're live all the time, you know. So if we make a mistake, we make a mistake right here. And you can backpedal or whatever you want, but it's out there. And that's, that's what helps me, I believe, alleviate the fear of it is I know that if I say something

I have no filter so it goes from my brain out my mouth and if I say something then I know that that must have been what I was thinking when I said it yeah you need to not be afraid

to back what you're saying I felt it it felt right I thought about it and at the time that's what in my wisdom I thought was the right thing to say

or what the moment needed didn't know it was going to offend people we did a podcast where I had a clipping from an article at marriage.com how to be how to not be a toxic person

but we said We said B-I-S-H, and we're just messing with it. But at the time, we had some subscribers. I had some family, you know, extended family and people, but we tried not to say anybody's names. We try to leave, you know, names of people from work out of it. Because we're talking about ideas, not necessarily about people. Smart.

But I'm reading this how not to be this way. And it was just kind of a self-identification. quiz and an extended family member took it personal and thought I was talking about them, but I was talking about my wife. So that led to three strikes on YouTube. Yeah. Well, and the other thing was, wow. Yeah.

During the 2020 election, Robert was a huge Trump supporter. Yeah. He's toned down a lot. I had a Trump flag in the background, Trump 2020. Uh-huh. And I was just guilty by association. But Luke said that you've recently turned on Trump, Robert. Okay.

He's toned it down. Okay, okay. I haven't turned on Trump. I do not feel like 2024 is the appropriate time for Trump, because I feel like so closely after Biden, And I'm sorry to make this a political podcast now. I feel like so close to after Biden, so we went from Trump, Biden, Trump again. I feel like that's going to be a mistake because he's instantly going to be met with all the same stuff that he had beforehand.

All the resistance that was there that was building up, it's going to come back full force. And at the beginning of his turn, just hit him again like a brick wall. So he's not letting him. I would have posed tonight a suggestion that he bring in, you know, a good running mate and endorse them as the presidential candidate and be their vice president. And guide them and make them the strength and he's the crutch. And he can be the training wheels and walk them through it. And then if he would be a good vice president. If he decides he could do it another term, then be president afterwards and switch.

But if he, you know, sees that the swamps, it just goes too deep and the corruption is too much and he's getting too old. You know, he could decide he's not ready to do this anymore. Right. But he seems healthy, happy and ready to take anything that comes at him. And this is what's nice about Robert and I. We don't always agree. And in this point, I disagree. I think now would be a good time for him to do his last leg as president, set the precedents for a good running mate, and introduce us to his next partner.

Because he picked poorly the first time. That's the dumb idea I ever heard. Right? But yeah. But Robert likes to just, you know, throw stuff out kind of like a Democrat where it's, he states it as it's a fact, but it's his opinion. And I have to remind people, no, that's an opinion, not a fact. So, what about RFK? What do you guys like about, you guys like that guy?

I can't understand a damn word he says. And I wish someone would translate for me. And I have to like get real, I'm 75% death. And so his poor throat condition, I'm just like, well. What is he saying? The thing with RFK for me is that right there. He sounds almost robotic when he talks. So we're so bad.

We're so mean sometimes. But no, he has really good points. Right on. He's coming from a good heritage. But then in the same side, you've just got to look at everything with a grain of salt. Because, you know, we can trust people. And then when you really see that it's just two wings of the sense.

bird, you know, or, you know, the idea is that no matter who becomes president, they get brought into a room with the deep state, and it's all the three-letter acronym organizations sitting there saying, well, here's everything we got on you, and here's people watching all your loved ones and family. And on most recent podcast, we talked about the fact that we had a presidential campaign slogan made. Be the people. That's one of the things we say all of the

all the time. Instead of we the people, it's be the people. Because you need to be the people that stand up for this stuff. Yeah. You know, and we said, Brown Harris, 2024, and all of this. But in that podcast, we were talking about the recent Joe Rogan, RFK, where Joe Rogan's being attacked and he's putting this stuff out there, you know, misinformation, which we've been hit with misinformation before. And we were talking about that. And like I said in that podcast,

Don't take it serious. Don't vote for your YouTube people. Don't go out and write your YouTube celebrities name in there. Don't write our name in there because this is a serious election. And if you write my name in, you're throwing away your vote. Because I don't have a hundred fifty million people

that are going to vote for me. So let's not think it's serious. Hypothetically, it could happen. This could be the podcast that does it. It could. This guy, This guy, he could take us off right now. Well, we're starting right here.

I'll be the campaign manager. Listen, we've been needing that. I mean, we need a mediator. That's why I contacted you guys, man. So what is your favorite, what is your backstory? I mean, we've taken over your podcast anyway, hijacked it. We've been talking the whole time. I love it.

What's your backstory? Well, I spend a lot of time. as a UPS truck driver, I spent about 26 years there. And it's interesting you talk about OSHA because, you know, my lived experience as a UPS driver has taught me that safety is really, really important unless it gets in the way of production. And then it just takes a back seat. You're driving around with no doors.

I know. I know. And so, you know, I did that for about 26 years. I started off in San Diego. I moved out to Hawaii when I was right around 30. I was doing pretty good. You know, I was making pretty good money. I had a 1976 Cadillac El Dorado, Volkswagen Beetle.

You know, I was living a dream. I lived in a little condo by the water. I had a little fishing boat, man. I was killing it. I also had a big, you know, I would take my money, and I would spend it on drugs and strippers, and then the rest I would spend completely foolishly. And so, you know, after a while I figured out, like, what am I doing, man?

Like, it was a very fun time, but it was also pretty empty. So I just thought, this is it. I need to figure something else out. So I put my name on a transfer list. I came out to Hawaii. I sold all my crap and I condensed my life to two black bags. And after I sold everything, I had like two grand and two black bags. Flew to Hawaii.

You know, on the plane, I'm doing shots. Like, yeah, man, I'm going to Hawaii. And then I landed and I sat inside the terminal and almost started crying because I realized I didn't know research. I never been here. I don't have a car, no place to live. I got nothing. I was like, what the fuck did I do? I just, what did I do?

This is the dumbest thing ever. And so I sat there for a while. I finally picked myself up and got a little shuttle out to a shuttle bus. It took me to Waikiki, took me to some little motel on the backside, stayed there for a little bit, got on a, Craigslist found a place to live. I bought myself a moped and went to work, started working. About a year in, I met a beautiful girl that was also from California. She's 100% Laotian, but her family had moved to California.

She moved out here. We started dating for a couple years. Got married, bought a couple places, sold a place, had a couple kids. And then recently my career with UPS, man. And I found myself in this position where I'll tell you. So I've always been big into psychedelics, man. Like I love LSD mushrooms smoking weed. Like I love it.

It's really awesome. And I think more people should do it if they can handle it. Right. That being said, you know, I found myself with while at work about seven years ago. Like I was just in a, I was like these, some of these people here are fucking dumb, man. I don't fucking like them. And this one guy at my work, I was really upset with him because I, I didn't know why.

I was just always mean to him, but I thought I was just talking shit to him, right? I was like, this guy's a fucking pussy, you know, and I always say things to it. It was like, mean stuff.

Well, my friend pulled me aside and he's like, why he's so mean to that guy, George? I'm like, nah, it's busting his balls, man. And I'm like,

no, you're kind of, you're kind of being a dick. I was like, really? Okay. Let me think about that for a while. So I came home and then that night, like I took a bunch of mushrooms,

man, and I was sitting there thinking about it, like, why am I being like that? Like I am kind of being mean to that. And then it hit me, oh, I don't like him because he's weak. And as soon as I thought that, boom,

something flipped in my mind. I go, no, no, you're weak, George. And that guy just reminds you that you're weak. And I was like, I get goosebumps telling that story. I'm like, holy shit. I'm a big pussy. I'm weak. And I just see, like, that guy's a mirror, man.

That guy's a mirror. And I just see myself in him. Holy cow. So I had to go apologize. What's true, bro. It's so true, right? Yeah. And so this is the beginning of the story, man.

So I go and I apologize. I'm like, hey, man, I'm an asshole. And I'm super sorry for saying those mean things. You know, what I saw was that when I look at you, I realize how weak I am. And it was really hard for me, it was really difficult for me to take that. So I just took it out on you. And he's like, yeah, I figured you're just an asshole.

But he was super cool about it. Totally forgave me. And like, I moved on from there. So from that point, I was like, okay, I have a problem with being weak. mental health thing to be able to do, a men's mental health, to be able to admit that you've done something wrong and be able to express it to the person that you've wronged. That's huge.

Yeah. I think it comes from mushrooms. I really think that the psychedelic experience allows you to see yourself in a position that you've never seen before. It kind of opens up this avenue where you can see yourself in an objective perspective. You know what I mean by that? You're like, I'll give you an example. Like, we all know people who've been in a relationship.

You're like, that's never going to work. Because you could see it. You'd be like, that shit ain't never going to work. But if you ask both of them, they're like, oh, we're in love, man. We're in love, yeah. Dude, together forever. You know, and then you're like, yeah, okay. But you can see every night.

Yeah, dude. And so if I go, going back full circle, you know, I found this problem with weakness. And I go, okay, I want to help other people figure this out. So I should probably tell other people how to be strong. So I tried that for a while. That didn't work because no one. No one likes it when you tell them what they should do. So then I had to think about it again.

I go, well, maybe the best way I can help this is take old Gandhi's line and try to be the change that you want to see in the world. So then I started trying to tighten up my game a little bit. You know, I started trying to set a better example. I started standing up for myself and I started feeling better. And then other people saw me standing up and I'm like, hey, man, that was pretty cool. I got this problem, George. And then it got to a point where, you know, we would have like, same on. a job site. We would have these morning meetings at UPS where the management would come out

and they would be like, all right. So Derek could talk about safety. You know, it's real hot out there. So I took a lot of water. And by the way, you guys are all four hours over aloud and no one's being production standards. And Bob got an accident, but we're not going to report it because we got too many accidents. And you guys got to stick it. You know, it's a finally, you know exactly what all the safety shit's about too. Yeah. After four years, you're like, yeah, George, you're going to be sitting in the fucking air conditioner all day. Calm down, all right? Yeah. Yeah. And so, you know, I would stand up there and be like, you know, the problem with what you're saying is it's all bullshit. You guys don't care at all about, see, if you guys only care about numbers and take a look

behind me. There's men and women giving their life to this company. And it's completely, irreversibly undermining your credibility when you stand up here and you say things you don't mean. So I don't appreciate it. I think, oh, it's all an apology. You know, just, ah, yeah, everyone's all fired up. Well, that didn't last too long. Okay. So I started getting pulled in the office, you know, and I, but I was really, luckily, I'm pretty good with my words. And I found ways to explain to the people in higher positions why what they were doing was wrong. And I could do it in a way that was irrefutable. Started talking about production.

And I showed them their numbers. And I go, look, you're not accounting for all the variables here. How are you going to get the right equation if you don't measure all the variables, man? And so shortly after that talk, you know, I brought back a bunch of stuff. and then all of a sudden there was like this big storm and they're like, hey, we're going to let you go for all these things that I didn't do. And so it was basically a retaliation move. So that point, I started just podcasting full time. And it's one of these things that I've also learned that the biggest tragedies in your life become the greatest gifts if you can sort of incorporate them.

If you can, you know, take the time to figure out a way to integrate the problems in your life, they become a beaming, light for you to follow. Like, like when I was weak, okay, I got to do something about this. Okay, be the example. Same thing for you guys doing a podcast. Like you guys are becoming examples of what you want people to be like, right? Like writing a book, writing a script going out on the road. Like I think that's what we all share in common is a lot of us that are creating right now are trying to become the best versions of ourselves so that we can become an example for other people. That's my story. That's my background, man. What do you think? What it sounds like is one of the things we close off Every episode of the podcast with me saying be a champion, if not for yourself,

go for someone else. And that's what it sounds like you were trying to do, man. You want to be a champion for other people. And that's the people that we need more of in this world. Luke tells it all the time. See, I found it from, I found it in a book called the Dreamgiver. And Tom Wilkinson, he was a pastor. He was trying to write a modern parable.

and yeah say I knew you'd write that down but I like your I like your goal I read that in the bio trying to read 100 books a year that's pretty good I'm just trying to get through writing 500 pages a year but that's a challenge in itself man

see the the thing he was talking about in the Dreamgiver he has a the land of familiar everybody's ordinary everyone's a nobody but this kid woke up one day found a dream on his

window sill in the form of a feather and and he sparked an idea he wanted to know where this feather came from it gave him a fire to go out and find where his dream was and he started

he wanted to become a somebody You don't want to be a nobody anymore. And leave the land of familiar. And in order to do that, you have to go out of your comfort zone. Comfort zone is where dreams go to die. And to leave the land of familiar, they literally had a bridge that you had to cross. And a lot of times, much like the other monkeys in society, if other monkeys try to climb up the rope to get to bananas,

the older monkeys have seen that it fails because the sight. has pushed the button and shot the fire hose at the previous monkeys so they're all conditioned none of the other monkeys want anyone to succeed so they will pull you down and these people unintentionally are border bullies anytime you change your comfort zone it affects everyone else's comfort zone there was a japanese expression a word for you know an idea that there are a billion versions of you in the world. Because in everyone else's mind, you're a different person than you are to yourself.

So we see ourselves differently than everybody else sees us. They all have an idea, a box that they want us to fit in, that comfort zone. And when we start changing it, it messes with their paradigm. They're like, what am I if he becomes successful?

If he publishes his books, you know, what level of success am i am i ready for j k rollins level am i ready for even mediocre stepney meyer's level i mean what are we what are we ready for and what happens is people will either consciously or unconsciously push their agendas on you and they'll be there at the border to try to stop you from leaving the comfort zone and it's usually people that love you yeah but really they love their comfort. They love their comfort zone and they don't want you to leave

because they're afraid of what happens to them if you grow. Yeah. And so what you have to have is a champion. And so Roberts might champion like 98% of the time, except for when we disagree on like minor topics in pocket. But he believes in everything I'm doing wholeheartedly. You know, I tell him I need to learn a program. he'll start learning the program.

And even if it's just painful to watch, he's learning it. And he's doing all these things and being supportive in any way, shape, or form. Sherman, Z-Rush videos are horrible. Don't watch those. Oh, gosh. And that's, I'm a side note, I'm trying to get my kids to, I'm like, look, we could conquer YouTube because the only people doing self-help motivational or any kind of instruction videos are either from Australia, India.

or Germany. And there's not enough American accents teaching instructional videos. But anyways. So a champion usually steps up and they say, hey, it's okay to go follow your dreams. Go see where it takes you. And just know the comfort zones here if you ever need to come back. But I don't want you coming back. I don't want you to be comfortable.

And, you know, I've had to say this to my dad because my dad's always trying to get me to live his dreams. He always wanted to become somebody, but he didn't pursue it enough. And I told him the reason why I'm always uncomfortable is, you know, I got scoliosis, one leg short than the other, made me death, vampire fangs. I'm weird. I'm always uncomfortable. I got arthritis and everything. I'm always uncomfortable. I cannot sit still

I have nervous energy all the time and these demons in my head I don't see words I see the movie I know it I know what it's supposed to look like and that's that right there is one of the big problems that we agree on

and we both have you as a book reader you know the story too you read the book you have this story envisioned in your mind another director comes along, changes everything about it, turns it into the new little mermaid. We'll just use that example.

And now you're sitting there, this book that you love that you enjoyed is trash on the screen. And it's not that she's a bad singer. It's that I don't like seeing Sebastian the Crab as a real crap. That's what freaks me out. And so we talked about it a long time ago.

You know, obviously Luke Cicela's story script to Netflix or whoever and be done with it, make the money off of it, continue on. But that compromises the story that's in his mind. So we decided that with this podcast, when our podcast kicks off and as we

grow the podcast and bring in public drivers and followers and stuff like that, then we'll use that money to press forward with his dream and turn the books into a movie directed by the author himself. The person that wrote them. So,

what you'll see on the screen is the story that's in his head, the story that plays in his dreams. Yeah. Boom, turn that around the circle. How'd you like that shit? That was beautiful. I wouldn't even go in there. Yeah, there's something beautiful about being able to translate vision into reality. You know, and if you can take something from in here and put it out here for people to consume,

you know, I think that that is not only a phenomenal job of becoming. the best version of yourselves, but it's inspiring for other people to see. And the truth is, you know, I think a lot of people can do it, but we've, like you said, we've been conditioned to eat the slop they're serving us. Like, hey, eat this garbage. Like, we, I don't, I don't like garbage. Okay, you can have whatever you want to eat. You got the blue garbage or the yellow garbage. Well, that's not anything. You know, that's just still garbage, man. But you can do it. And I think, you know, and as soon as you figure out, okay, I'm going to, if we take the money from the podcast or from the audio version or whatever it is you're doing, all of a sudden,

once you've done your movie, now you've opened up an avenue to show other people to do. You've got a whole publishing house in front of it. You know what I mean? And that becomes an incredible, incredible thing. But yeah, I love the idea. Which is an idea that we have for the future, you know. Yeah. Because we want to take and build his movies first, obviously.

And then there is a 10-year gap in between the stories that we want to do TV show about. So there's always something coming out and you're not stuck in waiting for two years. but we also want to take the benefits of that, the money that we make off of that, and pour back into people like Luke trying to tell a story, trying to write a book and say, look, we'd like to give you a million dollars to shoot your movie now from the benefits of this movie. We're just going to dump it over into you. We're going to pour a million dollars into your movie, your book, to shoot your idea. And I think we need to steer away from throwing the dollar amount out there.

We say, hey, look, we're going to assign you. a production team and they've got blank check, you know, carte blanche, and you just do what you need to. We'll rein it in if it gets too crazy, but, you know, we'll approve the scripts and everything like that. But, you know, the idea of the vision, we didn't want to getting ruined and why it went from script to book was I had a buddy I was a roommate with who was a script editor. They read the scripts, they pre-approve it for the producers. And he read it and he's like, this reads like a book. It's too visually descriptive for Hollywood. Hollywood just puts car chase.

You described how the car chase happens from whose point of view, what's going on in it. And they won't like that. Michael Bay just wants to destroy cars. Yeah. You just told him how to do it. They don't want you to tell them how to do their. job. The other thing is Hollywood just pays, the Writers Guild rate was like 10% of what the production cost would be. So, you know, typical million dollar rom-com movie, low budget and everything.

They pay you $100,000 for your script and that's it. And you get credit and you may or may not be consulted on it. And, you know, they have you show up at, you know, red carpet stuff and I want to take a moment and tell a story that I don't like reading. I absolutely hate reading books. I feel like it's a waste of time for me. Now, with that being said, Luke come out with his book.

And as a friend, as a co-host, of course, I supported him. And there was a whole year on the podcast. I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, go check out Luke's book, you know. He would promote it, tell everybody else to read it. Yeah, I would tell everybody to read it. And Luke, we were talking about on the podcast, one day and he's like, are you ever going to read my book? And I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll read it.

And he messaged me one day when we're on the phone. And I was like, look, I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to number two. And I take your book in there with me. I'll sit down. I'll read it. And I'll let you know what I think. And he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, sure. I said, I'll call you back after I get out of the bathroom. So he calls me back three hours later. Three hours later. I answer my phone. And he's like, so what do you think? And I was like, what do, what I think about what? He's like the book. I'm like, I'm still reading it, dude.

I just come in here. He goes, no, that was three hours ago. And I looked and threw it was three hours ago. I spent three hours on the toilet reading nightmares while you more of the dream diary because I got sucked into his book. Yeah. That's the biggest, that's the biggest comment. That's compliment, comment, whatever I get from people is that I took it in the bathroom. it was going to be my bathroom reader

I was going to, you know, because I get it. You see a big size book. It's like 300, 400,000 page. I don't remember. And they're just like, oh, it's going to take forever. And before they know it, they're like, it was like a half hour later, an hour later I couldn't fill my legs, but I was sucked in the

book and I wasn't going to stop. 12 hours. 12 hour read time. That should be on the back of the book. You know, like you have like all the comments from like all the things on the book. I took this into the bathroom at 6. I didn't leave until 6 p. I didn't stop reading until I couldn't feel my legs. It's a 12-hour read.

I consider myself an average for fast reader when it comes to stuff. So it's a 12-hour read. The second book is about an eight-hour read. But by far the second book is my favorite. Well, because he only likes it because I had him as a consultant for, you know, being a biker and everything. So he had some feedback in there. gave him a dedication. It's great. But the idea, though, is that each new book is a new narrator.

The diary gets passed like a torch. And so you're not stuck with poor manic depressive Bella Swan for four books in Twilight pining over a vampire. You get a different person, a different set of issues, a different perspective. and then I don't get stuck, you know, being bored with the characters I'm writing. I can walk away from a character and they can be a fun cameo later. It would be like a Harry Potter. The first book was narrated through Hermione Granger's eyes. The second one was through Ron Weasley.

The third one was through Harry Potter. And the fourth one was through Professor Snape or something. You know, it's passed on through that way. Yeah. Well, and then, you know, if you're doing omnipresent narrate, you can go through anyone's perspective, flashbacks, whatever. The problem with first person narrative

is anything, any side stories, any flash, anything, they have to figure out how they're telling that story. How is this person going to share that event? So that's why I like the idea of surrealism, being able to have shared visions, shared dreams.

I explore the idea of lucid dreaming, basically like dream traveling and visitation into other people's dreams. You know what this is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, that's what I'm saying. A lot of people that follow you will pretty much like what I'm throwing down here. Yeah. I've met some interesting people because I have vampire teeth.

It's just normal. They weren't, you know, I haven't since birth and everything. but I can't smell blood. It is weird. It's like a shark thing. Right. Well, some of my kids have it too. They're like, what's that smell?

It's weird. It's like the smell of wet rust in the house. And you're like, what's going on? I think you'll go upstairs and some kids got a bloody nose. You're like, oh, we could follow that. That was weird. But I met a lot of people. I worked with some people that, you know, they were into,

they were actually practicing Wiccans and doing that before Hot Topic showed up and they had to make their own clothes and all that stuff. So like they would talk to me and try to tell me things and I had like a natural understanding of a lot of stuff. So I've done research and looked into it, but it's like the idea is that the dream diary eventually will be one whole book. The final spell book will be the last book. I don't have any remaining short stories, anything else I want to do in that.

But typically the whole series is going to be nine books when we're done. And then like RJ said, we're going to fill in the gaps because I give like a year or a couple of years for the timeline and the characters to mature between books. And so we'll have filler stories in there. But we're going to flagship all this on our own streaming service, Q4U, plus when we become like our own Netflix and you know if it becomes an animated version an animation version

first or if we do live action anytime soon then that's where it will be found exclusively there I've been trying to figure out how I would even you know sell shares or anything

but you know I know we're going to get approached once it goes viral but if we even just get an a niche small army of fishnet wearing goth chicks following us of like a hundred thousand we'll be able to make it exactly the way we want it to be you know a little bit above cw quality uh you know supernatural smallville she's around there she's just fine and i'm gonna take a minute to do the shameless self promo if you don't mind um so what we do our our idea that we found works for us is we have subscribers

over at Q4Upodcast.com. That's our website. You can click subscribe now. You can watch all of our episodes that we have on there. And that's our website that we manage. You pay $5 a month to subscribe. You're included in all the content. You get to watch any of it at any point in time. It's all there for you, all free. And that's our GoFundMe, I guess you would say. So with that $5 a month subscription, at the end of every month, the last Saturday of every month, This time, it'll be the first of the month. But if we remember. Yeah, if we remember.

So if we have 50 subscribers, we'll give away $50 to one person. If we have 400 subscribers, we give away $400,000, $10,000, and so on and so forth. That way, it's giving back to the people that support us. Now, I understand that not everybody wins. It's like a lottery. But at the same time, it's our way of giving back, because nobody ever gives. gives back. Do you see Netflix giving some random person or free month

even? No, they don't care. And we want to show that we care in that way. That's why we're fine doing a podcast about everyday average Joe if they want to come on. You know, we're not in it for the

glory, I guess you would say? Celebrities cost money. And we talk to Chuck doors and he's just too old to do it right now. but yeah but we're working on celebrities you know what I think about celebrities though is like by the time someone's a celebrity

like kind of all the magic has already happened you know what I mean by like they're already like by the time you get on Rogan you're already there you already did it and that's cool I'm not saying those people aren't interesting like dude it's probably pretty awesome to hear some of those stories what was the transition like or how is it now that you have this giant mansion

or hey man like it's cool I get it and it's intoxicating But I think that talking to someone who's in the fight, who's on the front lines, who is, who is me or you right now. Look, those are the kind of people I identify with. And like that to me is like, oh, oh, they're doing that. Maybe I should think that, you know. And like, it just seems so much more, like, authentic to talk to somebody who's struggling to make it from day to day or, but has the vision. That's where you can get the real tools of like, this fucking person is going to work every day.

They got a family and they're doing this. Okay. Okay. I can do it too then. You know what I mean? Like, that's where the meat is, I think. We have a gentleman that comes on our show every once in a while he can, when he's available. He is actually stationed for the Israeli forces.

Yeah. And, I mean, we hide his identity. We don't show a picture of him. We just call him the insider. But he talks about stuff that's going on over there because he's in the active military forces. Right. And when there was the bombing from Syria and all that stuff, you know, he was there. And it's fun to talk to that kind of person.

you know, your local business owners, your people like you said that's going out there every day and busting their back just to try to survive. And they also find that little bit of time for their dream. Yeah, we have people that will ask us on at conventions because there's like, man, you know, I've been writing a book and I want to do, I want to do this. What advice? I'm like, just keep going one day at a time. Yeah. Even if you're doing a half hour a day, it's still more.

than nothing. I mean, you got 365 days a year. You wrote one page. That's a 365 page book. It may not be the best book. It may not be cohesive. It may take another three more months to edit, but at least you wrote it. Yeah.

Unless you're like Luke who doesn't edit his book, he just hits the little button on Amazon and publishes it. And then I get the first copy and I sit down and I read through it. Those are special. People, those are collector's items someday. You know, the rare evidence that the writer's really human.

Yeah. He has one copy of the second book that has my pinmarks in it from where I sit down and read the book. I was like, oh, that's wrong. Those are my personal copies. Yeah. The copies he mails back to me so I can fix the mistakes. But it's proof that he read a book. It reminds me, too.

I saw two instances of this. one was I read an article about I don't think it was Banksy it may have been just for the story we'll pretend it was it and he was in he set up shop at like some New York like a

like a festival you know it was like a street festival like a like a craft fair and he was he had a bunch of his paintings there and stuff and he was selling him for like 60 bucks and like people would walk by and be like mm-na man like three people bought them for like 60 bucks a piece

turns out each one of those things is like $250,000. There was another story about a violinist who was playing in the subway. And like he just said... It was Josh Bell. Yeah. Josh Bell.

I've heard that one. One of the most incredible pieces. Just put his violin case out there on a like a stratacaster, like a million dollar, three million dollar violin, you know, or whatever. It's a million dollars. He made like 30 bucks.

Yep. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. And like, brilliance is all around us.

You writing a book, like, if you look at the garbage that comes out of Hollywood, like it's just been bastardized. The artist has been taken out of the final product in order to make it profitable for everyone else around them. They've diluted the talent, got rid of them because of greed and selfishness, and they've pushed the real talent back to the bottom. But like, that's where we're the best, like, look at what we're doing, man. I'm not saying we're the greatest in the world.

But look, our talent, I think, and I say our talent, meaning the average, person out there. The average person's ability to create content or be beautiful or do something worthwhile is greater than or equal to any sort of celebrity out there because you're doing everything and creating. Imagine if all you had to do full time. If you didn't have a family, if you had a nanny, if you had a cook, imagine what you could create. Like you have everything. But you know what? Maybe you can't create at that level because you don't have any struggle. You don't have any fights. So that very thing that you have to fight every day with is the very thing. that allows you to create in your life.

I think it's all around us, man. Yeah, if you were too comfortable, you're not going to perform. You're enjoying your comfort zone. I don't need to do that today. I can do it tomorrow. It's not a big deal. You keep putting it off,

and then your dream dies. I was trying to find this picture here. You were talking about artists. We have these pictures on art where we can show them. But this is the man that we were set up on the other side of at the last collecticon. He just has a series of... Superheroes.

On the toilets. On toilets. That's so awesome. Voldemore, Mando, the Hulk, Superman, Captain America, and that's what we stared at for 24 hours

was this guy's paintings of superheroes on toilets. I mean, it could have been worse. He had to look at us. Yeah. Why not? man. Have you seen some of the modern art out there? Like, why not?

Oh, man. All it takes is one person, one celebrity to buy that thing and then boom, through the roof. Look, I think Hunter Biden's been a pretty good artist as of lately, right? Right. Look, and that's like, what people need to do is they need to combine a duet or stitch together Hunter Biden's artwork with a video, you know, it's a financial, planning how to hide money is because are, look,

are you, hang on, are you following all of this right now? Like, I am on the peripheral. Like I think, I think I know most of it. Like,

what part are you talking about? So, George, if you're following all of this, the Biden money scandal and all that, we do. We designate. So we have our podcast set

for Tuesday, newsday. We want Wednesday where we look back at an old movie. Theory Thursday. Yeah, where we talk about conspiracy theories. Let's talk about them, yeah.

Sometimes they become political theories, but other times we like to talk about Bigfoot or aliens or whatever. It's not terribly spooky because there's like a wiggle room there. It's like, well, is it a Thursday thing or is it a scary thing? Do we put it on spooky Saturday? So we have spooky Saturday. We also do a streamer Saturday. I have all the stuff to do ghost hunts.

Nice. I don't believe in it, but still, I do it because why not? So I've been following this Joe Biden taking money thing for a while now, and I was up at 3 o'clock in the morning on my computer, doing research because we believe in do your own research. Research everything and then bring out what you know. And I stumbled upon a webpage. It's finance.senate.gov.

It's a legitimate government website where they have already looked into Hunter Biden and Joe Biden's finances from It's that committee's findings. The Durham committee, I think. And it is the proof that everyone is looking for right now.

And I have this webpage saved and I can send you the documents from all this and the way he called me. He was like, do you ever have that feeling that you looked at something you weren't supposed to look at? And you just feel all weird? I'm like, yeah, it's called paranoia.

It happens all the time. Yeah, it's all of the findings. And yes, Hunter Biden took a lot of money as payoffs. Yeah. And yes, Joe Biden's whole family has received payoffs. It's ridiculous. I'll use quotation so you don't get banned off of it. We know how that is.

But all this stuff is out there. for you to look at already. And like I said, I want to do a podcast over the whole page that I found, but it's going to be more than just an hour long

that we dedicate, you know, it's going to be a several hour podcast. That's how long some of us can be in a room and be patient with each other or, you know, somebody's not calling us

during a podcast, interrupting our show. I had three phone calls. Have you guys seen the Black Rock James O'Keefe thing that just kind of came out? No. Yeah. So you know how James O'Keefe, he, he's like the undercover sort of reporter, right? Like he sends people to kind of undercover stuff.

He had sent, I guess this girl's been doing a, you know, a mock sort of dating with this guy who was an employee with BlackRock. And they have him on tape just talking about like, yeah, you know. here at Black Rock, we pretty much, you know, war is really good for us because, like, we know if, like, the grain silo is going to get hit. We just buy the futures, you know, pretty much everybody at Black Rock owns everything. And look, you know, dominating the world is good for business. You know, most people are fucking retards and they're too dumb to even understand what we're doing. And fuck them because we don't really need them. You know, they're just a bunch of dummies.

But, like, there's, and that was just like the teaser. So, like, I think the real part, the real other part comes out today. but he just goes into detail about everything that's kind of happening at Black Rock. He's like, yeah, you could buy a senator for like $10,000. Those guys are so cheap. And every one of them is bought. All the banks own them. You know, and while it's sort of circumstantial evidence, he is an employee at Black Rock,

and he is saying these things about what Black Rock and the other banks do. So I'm sure that on some level, you know, he has to at least be taken seriously. It's kind of fascinating to think about. Now, if you take that right there, what you just said, You know, Black Rock just sued Fox News, which if you look at the financials, Black Rock owns Fox News. So the money just recirculated. Now, we done a whole podcast.

Like Vanguard owns Fox. The Vanguard and BlackRock owns BlackRock. BlackRock isn't the largest group. It's the Vanguard group. The Vanguard group and BlackRock own a split percentage in most companies out there. Of everything. Yeah. Yeah. Diversified portfolio.

Follow it all the way to the very beginning. It goes to the BlackRock Group is owned by, or the BlackRock is owned by the Vanguard Group. See, and he's got this like weird nexus of where the internet filters through Oklahoma there before going off to Norway. And so like, he can find a bunch of stuff unfiltered, untethered, not erased off the internet yet. And he's finding this stuff. And we're usually like three,

the six months before most people. We're six months ahead of the curve on most of this. And we're saying stuff and people are like, they're crazy. That's just crazy. Right. Well, I mean, look, my problem is kind of like you said, I take a little infused Jolly Rancher. I sit in front of my computer at 3 o'clock in the morning. And I just go where I'm led.

And it's a divine moment. Yeah, the emperor has no clothes, right? And then it comes back to conditioning because if you look at the way we're educated, you know, I talk about this on my podcast quite a bit is that the model of education we use came from like the Prussian model, where kids are sent to a classroom where there's an authority figure that stands over them. And then they're trained by bells and whistles. The Rockefeller system. Absolutely. Absolutely. It's a system of conditioning, right?

where you have to, where you're conditioned at an early age to ask for permission, to understand your under authority, to not stick up too high, to not be too good to fit in. Yes. I am homeschooling my three-year-old,

my four-year-old. Nice. And it's bad enough that she's part of the new early generation called Generation Alpha, which gives me the bejibis willies. Why don't we just call them the apex predators? They know everything. They can,

They can just unlock your phone, but gel break it. Yeah. And hack into, I mean, the rule. Very recently, she was banned off of Roblox for 24 hours because someone with the username Arctic something was in there and broke into her house in one of the games. And she figured out on her own that if she hits the message button with her iPad and then hits the button that says microphone, she can speak and it types whatever she says. So she says, Arctic, you're a little bitch. Get out of my house. And she's four.

Yeah, she's four years old. Fuck you, Arctic. You're a little bitch, bitch. And Roblox banned her for the week. And that was worse. The double emphasis on bitch made it worse. It's like, you're not just a bitch. You're bitch, bitch, bitch.

You little bitch. You're someone else's bitch. Yeah, I mean, it was, there was seven messages because she brings it to me, Daddy. I can't play Roblox. And I'm like, what? And I look at it and I said, due to these comments, and there were seven of them there, and she's calling him a little bitch, bitch,

and a little bitch fucker. I'm like, oh, my God. Home school is me. So we're going to adjust fine. Right. So at that moment, I have an option, right? I have to either discipline my child

going by what Roblox says and not hearing her side of the story, or I can ask her for her part of the story, and make my own assumptions, which is what I did. So what happened? He broke into my house and he wouldn't leave. Did you ask him politely to leave first?

I mean, obviously, that's the thing. Did you say, hey, can you get out of my house? Yeah, he wouldn't leave. And I was like, so then you started calling him a bitch fucker? Yeah. I'm like, all right, well, fuck that little bitch. Hey, did you do diligence? You're very fine.

No, but the generation that is coming up already is already ceased through the lives of the Matrix. Right, right. Right. And I mean, my he's 10, my younger son, he's 10, but I remember

when he was 2 and 3 and 4, we say, well, you can't do that. That's a rule. That's a law. He's like, well, what are those? He just didn't understand that collectively all of us monkeys

decided, no but he's climbing that rope. And if anybody climbs that rope, we're going to tear that guy down. But none of us has tried it. And he's like, no, dad,

watch, I'll climb up the refrigerator magnets to get to the cookies. You know, it was, I'm like, look, I don't want to crush his,

his go-to attitude and just, you know, hold my beer and watch. You know, don't threaten me with a good time type of attitude. But I also have the worry that he's going to be

home and handcuffs. Because, you know, the rules don't apply to the younger generations that's coming up. And I believe we're shattering the participation trophy generation's concept of reality

because nobody gives you shit. And they keep still trying, oh, you need to, you need to accept me and love me. Nobody cares. Nobody cares about me. Why should anyone care about you? go back in your lane and stay there.

And you'd be happy. How long have you been on YouTube? I started on YouTube maybe like six years ago. But I used a really interesting strategy that everybody can do and everybody could get like 30, 40, 50, even 100,000 followers. And here's how I did it. So I have a lot of content. Like I love conversations like this.

I love talking about mental health. I love talking about books. and I love talking to comedy teams and people that are interesting from all walks of life, as long as we have a good conversation. I think that's really fun for me. However, not a lot of people, maybe because there's so many people doing it, you don't get a lot of traffic that way. But what you do get a lot of traffic for is famous comedians. And so for some reason, I thought that like, you know what, I'm just going to take these old comedies.

For some reason, I use comedians that died. Like, I thought that was a little bit more respectful. Not that it matters, but I'm going to use the comedians that died. So I use like Carlin and Richard Pryor and Robin Williams Oh, Phonomenal. And there's like these old comedy roast That if people haven't checked them out, you should check them out there Like the Dean Martin Comedy Roasts

Like George Burns and like all these old school comedians are really funny And I would just take those and I would clip like clip them into shorts You know, so it's like a minute And each comedy roast you could probably get like 50 of them And so then I would clip those roasts and then I would put them as shorts And YouTube was really pushing shorts So I would just clip them, put them on there. And all of a sudden, like, about six months in, like, my channel started taking off.

Like, some of these shorts would get like $100,000, $200,000. Someone got like a million. I'm like, whoa. And like it was really exciting because, like, I got to see, oh, shit, this is possible, man. Like, you videos do kind of go viral. You know what I mean? And so I was like, okay, this can happen. And all of a sudden, like, all these people were starting to pop up and make all these comments.

And my channel was exploded. I was like, okay, I got a thousand. I got $1,000. I got $10.000. I got $15 and $30. And then I came to the point of monetizing. I'm like, okay, I can monetize now. So I monetize.

But then I'm like, hey, you can't monetize after. Turns out you have too much reused content. And so I was like, oh, okay. So then I came to this point where I thought, okay, maybe I'm at a point. I looked at it like a rock. You know how like the space shuttle would theoretically take off with those rocket boosters? And then when it would get into space, those rocket boosters would fall off and it would go into orbit. That's what I thought my channel was.

I thought that those comedy clips were like the rocket boosters. So I was like, okay, I'm just going to cut all my reused content. And so I did. I got rid of all the videos. And those were all the ones that had views. Like this one had a million cut. Anything that was reused, I just cut it. And now I had what I thought was my spatial orbiting.

And I got to keep all the subs, but it dramatically decreased the amount of views that I get. So I have all the subs still. And some people are starting to shy away from the channel because it's no longer pushing the comedy content. But now it just has my stuff. So I got to keep the views. I'm no longer monetized. but I have my own stuff there. But it's a total repeatable strategy.

Luke's going to bounce real quick and head home. Yeah, of course. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Dude, Luke, awesome, brother. Thank you for hanging. Yeah, so it's a pretty cool strategy. So we started in 2020, we started off, I'll tell you our origin story, I guess. Yeah, please.

So we started off with like TikTok and a Zoom call. Like our first podcast, we called ourselves Ancillary because we were talking about anything and everything. Yeah. And it was a Zoom call where we were recording our audio separately and then mashed it all together with a timestamp and done all of it, the hard way. And we posted that on YouTube and we had TikTok. And I mean, we were growing really quick. But once we hit the point of monetization on YouTube, everything stalled for us.

And we also had the TikTok. We had, I believe it was 10,000. and then for a brief period, we hit like 25,000 followers on TikTok. And, I mean, we were getting a great momentum going over there. Then the election happened. So with our logo being the Q, everyone instantly associated us with the QAnon.

We were probably the most hated people on TikTok because at that point in time, TikTok wouldn't even let you use the letter Q. It was a banned letter. Wow. And so we could. even promote ourselves every time we put in Q for you podcast which stands for question for you yeah we were automatically getting banned so we went from that 20 down to um 2 800 where we've been

steadily at for the long time now and then so we're like we really got to start pushing content other places so then we went over and we really started pushing on youtube again you know trying to get up to that next step yeah and we had the view hours we had the followers they just wouldn't monetize us and shortly after that we got our first strike on YouTube

misinformation about COVID or something and misinformation hit us first strikes so we're like okay you know this obviously isn't a place for free speech so let's find one that is

and our next step was Clapper the app Clapper had just come out. So we went over to Clapper, and we started growing a following over there. And nothing against those people, but those people, that's an echo chamber, is all it is. And I really promote more of the make-up your own mind. Don't just take what I say and run with it. Have your own opinion with it, too.

So at that point, we were like, you know what, no, we're going to back off of that one, too. and we actually made an OnlyFans. Her face. Was hosted on OnlyFans for a long time. Well, as you know, or if you don't know, OnlyFans started doing a verification where everyone that is on screen with you, you have to send in their passport ID,

their Social Security number, and all of this information to Sweden. For every time that they're on, you have to send that information to Sweden. And I was like, well, if I have a guest on, I'm not going to ask for their application number to send to Sweden so it can get stolen. I'm not doing that.

So at this point in time, we created our own website, and we kind of had it sitting on the back burner, you know, and we put content there, but we weren't really pushing our website. And we got banned off of YouTube. We went to our website for a while. We streamed on Facebook for a while. And everywhere we went, there's something that prohibits free speech.

With Facebook, your comments are being monitored. And once you post a comment that they flag as inappropriate, then they're constantly watching that channel now. So every time somebody post a comment that somebody else finds inappropriate, your comments banned. And once again, that was a hard decision to make. We were like, okay, so. We have the opportunity to say kind of what we want to say, but at the same time, if somebody else says something that Facebook doesn't feel appropriate, they're going to take their comment down and slap them on the wrist for it and put them in Facebook jail.

So now we're streaming on Rumble. It's all right. We're streaming on our website. And really, we just went back to YouTube, started streaming on our YouTube again, a few. videos here and there, but you really have to watch where you stream your content at. And that's one thing I've never agreed with because I'm like, you know what? Let somebody say what they want to say. If George, whatever your opinion is, if I don't agree with it, then it's my option to either

watch you or scroll on past you. Yeah. I guess I've never understood the age of internet police. Yeah, I don't either. I haven't because the way I look at it is if you're saying something that I don't like, block. I think it's more than that. You know what I think it is? I think it's the insurance companies and liability.

It's not so much some screaming, like some screaming lunatic that is a victim. It's more of like, hey, I'm afraid I'm going to get sued. So does block anything they could possibly sue me. And then they just blame it on like the people. They blame it on like the weakest people because they want those people to be victimized. You know, let me throw this strategy out. Let me, here's an idea I've kind of been playing with that I see the way the culture moving.

Like right now, there seems to be so much division in the world of me. Like there's so much propaganda out there. And it seems that like whether it's like, you know, like the like a transsexual dancing at a library or it's like a Black Lives Matter group or it's like that, you know, the target things that are happening. Like, I think all those people are being set up. Like, I think all those people are being set up to be hated.

And they're pumping all this money. And I think it's people like Vanguard. I think it's people like BlackRock. I think they're setting up all of these people that are, they're already victims. And they're blowing them up. And they're going to just, they're going to be the useful idiots that the communists use.

And these people, yeah, man. And on some level, I think it's working. I think you're seeing this really hard turn to the right. And those people are going to be persecuted. And they're going to be used instead of taking out the bankers, instead of taking out, you know, the financial elite or the, you know, the CEOs of the corporations that run the government,

like that's all behind a smokescreen. And instead, why don't you yell at this person who has blue hair over here who is really annoying? And I don't think those people see that, man. But that's where I see this whole thing going. It's like, oh, these people are just being set up. And they're going to get crushed. And the people that are going to do it are going to be the people that are sick and tired of being told their second class citizens. And it just seems like they're trying to promote this class war in order to get away with their crimes.

What do you think about that? Yeah, no, you're absolutely right. It's a scapegoat strategy. Yeah, yeah. And what they're doing is, of course, they don't want their friends and the people in their company and all these. people to be under attack and go to chill. So you have to find an out. You have to find your scapegoat. And if it's

the purpled hair guy that's kind of already, I'm going to say a little bitch, then let it be the purple-haired guy that you have no contact to that can get up there and stand on a stage and scream into a microphone that you paid for and say, I don't feel this is right.

He's going to get hated. They're not going to think that you put it on. You paid for the microphone. You paid for the stage. You wouldn't got the permits. They're not going to look at that. They're going to look at you in individual that said the words. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

It's an interesting time for sure. And I, one strategy that I've been using, talking to people about is that, you know, I think finding a way to create your own content and not pay attention to that

goes a long way. You know, and even if it's like, like I left, I got fired from my job, but I left there and trying not to participate in the machine is a great way,

to give them the middle finger. It's really hard. And some people can't do it because you've got a mortgage, you've got a family, and I get it. Like some people can't do it. But if you can do it, I think now is a great time to chase down that feather that's on the window sill, to chase down that dream.

Because right now, things are changing, and nothing is sure about the future, except that the change is constant. And right now is a beautiful time for anyone listening to this to start believing in yourself in a way that you never have before. setting an example for yourself, your family, and your community, and it can be done. Yeah, 100%. Be the change you want to see, like you said earlier, you know.

Like we say, be the people. Yeah. Be the people for the change. Instead of, you know, the Constitution states that we, the people, then be those people. Yeah. Stand up and do something about it. When, when, and the reason that be the people came along was during the time of election and 2020 when everyone was so

fired up about the election and everybody said that this is my line. If they cross it, then I'm going to do this, this, this, this, this. And we had a bunch of those people, like I said, we were in Clapper, we were talking to those people every day. And they all had their permanent line. If they do this,

then I'm going to stand up. And then they would do it. And I'd say, okay, they crossed your line. Now what? Well, now if they do this and it was the old cartoon, Don't cross this line. Don't cross this line.

Don't cross this line. And that's when we started to be that person then. If you say if they do this, then I'm going to do this. Well, if they do that, then do it. Don't just be about your words. I actually stand up and do something. And one of the things, I don't know if you pay attention to this. Are you on Instagram?

I am. Okay. So Instagram pays out their top influences, right? Right now, I believe Ellen DeGeneres is in second place. And Ellen DeGeneres has 180 million. Don't quote my numbers exactly on this. But she has like 180 million followers on Instagram. She only follows like 200 people.

But she gets paid like $6,000 to $7,000 per post. Wow. So Ellen DeGeneres is making money off of every one of you that follow her. And one of my big pushes is that I believe everybody should stop following those people. Yeah. Stop. And I'm not saying follow me. Right.

I'm seeing instead of following those people, set up a networking group on Discord or some server somewhere where everybody can get together and say, okay, you know what? This month we're going to go follow this veteran. And run through vet this person. Make sure they're actually a veteran. No stolen valor. Make sure that they are, you know, really trying in life and actually doing what they say they are. Go follow that person. All 180 million people go follow that person.

Let them post every day. Let Instagram pay them $7,000 a post every day for this. And at the end of that month, take your views back and find somebody else that's important and deserving of this. instead of giving your money to the people that don't care about you. That's such a brilliant idea. How can I help make that idea possible, man? I'll make a short and like that's such a beautiful idea. It's like an alternative sort of economy in a way.

And it's be the people, like you said. Like we do have the power. You know, the same way. It's you have the power. And that's one of the things that I try to push on people is, well, I can't change anything. No, you can. You can make a change. just by simply not following somebody on Instagram and turning your follow to somebody else,

you have that power. It takes more of us to do it because we're the lower class citizens, but we still have power in our groups and our numbers. And I, like I said, it's one of those ideas I have that I haven't really... Yeah. I tell people, you know, don't follow them, but at the same time, I'm like, I don't know who to follow. Right. You know, I had an idea a while back too, like just in a, I was thinking about a similar idea. Like, wouldn't it be not similar in that, but similar in, wouldn't it be cool if there was a group of people that just got together and tried to make someone's day better?

Like, if you were a group of people, so you had a Facebook page or a YouTube channel or you have a bunch of followers and you could just all get together and be like, hey, I read this guy's post. She's up on a pretty tough day, man. what if we started like a go fund me or what if we just all went on his page and bombed him with like positive ideas, positive words. Like even something like that could fundamentally change someone's day

or their week or even their life. Like, hey man, we're going to bomb this guy for a week tell him how awesome he is. You know, like, and he would just some stranger would be like, dude, everyone's blowing me up,

tell me how awesome I am. You know what I mean? That would be a good feeling, right? That would change somebody's whole lot. I mean, you don't know that person. They could be on the verge of suicide. Yeah. They really could.

That one message, one inspirational message, a like on their photo, could change somebody's entire day. Yeah. Like you said, their life. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah, I think there should be more of things like that. It's a beautiful idea, but as I said, it's something that I'm not really sure how to get

off the ground. I have a Discord. I have a Facebook. I have Instagram. We have the same username on just about everything. Like I said, we even have an only fan. Right. We have Q for you podcast branded all over everything.

But we've been unfortunate enough that we've had to, like I said, leave YouTube and go back to YouTube and hit Rumble and bounce around here and here and here and here. We're always bouncing that we can't amass a large group of people in one place before eventually we're kicked somewhere else. Yeah. I'm sorry. I believe in the ability to say, on your mind. And I just because you label it as misinformation, maybe it's not. Maybe in three years from now, we're going to go, whoa, remember all those people that you kicked off of your platform for saying misinformation were actually correct? And are these big companies going to do

anything about it? We don't matter. We're consumers to them. We, during the back on to the helping people out during pandemic and COVID times and all that, 2020 in the heart of it. We looked at Amazon and if the guy from Amazon had taken and given

all of his prime members, let's say he gave all of his prime members $1,000 to use on Amazon to purchase food. Do you know how much that would have benefited him in the long run? Everybody would have been

still been Amazon Prime members and he would have gained more Amazon Prime subscriptions and everything else just for giving these people $1,000 that he would have gotten back and he could have wrote all that off

on his taxes. Little things like that people don't think of because I believe greed gets in that way. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's a whole board of it's like a I think greed is contagious and it's like if you have a

board of directors sitting around talking about, and most of the board of directors have never even worked for the company. You know, there's a guy named Verifakis. He's like the Greek finance minister. I forgot his first name. Because that's name is Verifakis. And he had a really interesting idea. He talks about the time in which Greece, when Greece was about to default to the European

Union, he became the finance minister for a party called Sariza. And they got into power because they're like, yeah, we're just. going to default. We're not going to pay. Fuck Europe. We're not going to pay any money. We're just going to default on it. And so Europe was like, you're not going to default on anything. You're going to pay as that money. And they're like, nah, we're not going to do it. So the people voted that group in because they didn't want to pay the debt. They're like, we'll just

go back to our own currency. Well, Europe can't have that happen because it'll collapse the entire euro. And so Janus Verifakis goes to this finance meeting. And they're like, he said that the first thing that happened when he went to the meeting is like, listen, we're going to listen. Yonis, we're going to listen to everything you have to say. but there's just one there's just one thing

we have to tell you you can say and do anything you want in here we're going to listen but you can't change any of the rules in finance and he's like why the fuck am I here then

he's like we're going to default and that's it it's done and so they ended up like threatening him they called like because he was the finance minister they called the prime minister

in and then they got that guy to turn his back on Verifakis but his idea was this he goes look capitalism around the world it's been taken over by the corporations. It's corporatocracy now.

It's not really even capitalism. It's just this corporate takeover of the world. And I think it was John Dewey who said, government is the shadow cast upon people by business. So Verafakis' idea is this. He goes, why don't we make it so that you can't have the speculators? Like if you're an employee for a company, when you join that company, you get one share.

And now you get one share in the vote of whatever the company does. And then when you, if you get quit or you're fired, you give back that share, you start working another company. Then you get a share that company. Like it's the most equitable. I'm not a huge fan of the word equitable the way it's been used, but it is a way to sort of equalize the authority inside the company. And it takes away the motivation for people that don't care about the workers or the company or the integrity of the company. It takes those people out of it so the people that are there get a chance to decide. And, you know, it's pretty interesting.

He also had some really interesting ideas about similar to what we were talking about, but more of an aggressive stance where, you know, why don't the people get together and find out, like, what General Electric is shorting and then everybody buy that stock, you know, like the same way AMC did it or all the apes on Reddit did it. Like, that's possible. It could be done. And so I think that there's some good ideas out there. It's just getting, and maybe this is why there's so much distraction. Maybe why there's so much propaganda out there is because people, are beginning to coalesce around these ideas and finding ways to fight back.

I like to believe that. Right. I mean, let's say in all of my social medias and all of our platforms, we're looking at somewhere around the 10 to 20,000 people. Some of those could be duplicated or whatever. You're following. I'm not sure how big you're following is at this point out. But even at that, okay, let's say we're both at 10 to 20,000 people.

So we group them all together. then we have 40,000 people. With 40,000 people, you can make a difference. It's just getting them all to one point and saying, look, guys, this is our group mindset. This is our hive mindset. And this is our goal to achieve. And it's one thing that I've started with streamer Saturday. So I also stream on drip, selling funcos and collectibles and stuff like that.

And one of the things that we talk about in there is, Okay, so you're a streamer with 150 followers. Come on the podcast, tell everybody about yourself, tell them what you do in one of our streamer Saturdays, and then bring all of your followers in. This guy with 150, this guy with 150, this guy with 150, this guy with 150, everybody bring your followers in and pull them. So now, instead of being one lone person with 150 followers, now we are all a group with 10,000 or 20,000. thousand or 30,000 followers and keep expanding and growing on this. That way we can bring in more people and spread it out.

It, because look, it's nothing. On YouTube, you hit subscribe. Yeah. Yeah. That's it, guys. You hit subscribe, and that's support. Yeah. And that's one of the big things that we push.

Support comes in many ways, shapes, and folks. Share this video. Share true life podcast with five of your friends. share it in Facebook Messenger, Instagram, whatever. Share True Life podcast with five of your friends. Go talk about it in your

coffee break in the morning, whatever. And that's some of the greatest support that you can have. So another idea that we took from that was with our website in the $5

month subscription. So like you, True Life podcast, we would give you a code, True Life. as your code. And now everybody that you tell to go subscribe to the website, they get their first month for $3. They're still entered into the drawings

and nothing changes that way. It's just a discount. But for every person that you send and uses that true life discount code to get their $3 a month, we pay you a dollar. And we offer this to anybody. You're somebody sitting at home that is an influencer in some way,

shape or form, you have 10,000 people on your TikTok page. Your bills are coming to, whatever. Then message us, get a hold of us and say, hey, I would like that promo code. And we give you a promo code and take as much advantage of it as you want. If you

send us 300 people, then we'll send you $300 on PayPal. Because that's the best promotion, I believe, is the word of math. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. Send me send me the true life code so I can send some people your guys way.

Yeah, I'll make it right now and send it to you. I mean, it's, and that's the thing. So our website keeps track of it all. So at any point in time, you can message and say, hey, what am I at right now? And I'll send you a screenshot of and say, hey, you've got 40 people. Do you want paid out right now or do you want to let it hold over, you know? And that's one thing that I push for everybody to understand, you know, to be the champion. If not for yourself, do it for somebody else.

Yeah. Support comes in many ways, shapes, and forms. Just watching a video. An hour view helps you. And that's an hour view where you can just take and set your phone down and walk off and do whatever you need to do. You don't have to pay attention to it. I really wish you would and listen to some of the words that people say. Sure.

But you don't have to. that hitting subscribe and watching an hour of their video or whatever is some of the biggest support that you can do for people yeah that's true what do you think is the future for creators like you know when you see i think a lot of people have had a lot of hope for rumble to become bigger than it is and it's on some level i can see them paying out some pretty big creators trying to get them to work exclusively with them but it just seems like the I don't even know what to believe like how many of my subs are real people

how many subs on anybody's channels are real people like you can just buy those I mean I've have people that call them and I can't want to buy some subs and I'm like I don't have any money to do that man but you know what and then if you have those subs does YouTube even know that they just pay out their people and if they do

why wouldn't they just create the phone they create the channels they want and then pretend they have subs and just buy them the subs you know it's like it just seems so convoluted And I sometimes I think that that's why all these other channels are popping up. But sometimes it seems when there's so many channels, no one's paying attention to any of them. There is.

True life. Yeah. Capital T, capital L. All one word, $2 off your first month. Nice. Everybody listen and check them out. So that's a problem I see in the future is because now I don't know if you've heard about it, but there's a new streaming platform called Kick.

It's not new. It's like a year old. now. Their rules are a lot more lax. They host gambling. They host OnlyFans girls. They host podcast, politics.

It's all there, all in one spot. It's like a Twitch platform only. And it's a bunch of people that were on Twitch that got together and started this. And one of the goals that they hope to achieve is that they can pay stream. $15 an hour. Wow.

To be on there, which sounds wonderful, right? Sure. But as they claim, it's a future hope that they want to happen. And there's a new social media. There's a new streaming platform. Just in buying collectibles, you can use whatnot, drip, pop shop. got live and this is all stuff that's just blown up over the recent days and i think the problem is that like my problem that i talked about earlier is i spread myself too thin with youtube facebook

rumble i i spread it around hoping to get the word out right instead of focusing on one platform but I also find it difficult to obey the rules, I guess you would say, so I can stay on that platform. Yeah. Sometimes, sometimes I wish I was different. I think we all get that, though. Yeah. Yeah, I do. Sometimes I wish I was a rule follower, and I didn't accidentally say the word fuck, you know, so that somebody could come along with it, oh, he said a bad word.

blocking. I get that mindset. I do. I understand it. I have, like I said, a four-year-old also who absorbs every word. Right. So I understand that as a parent. You don't want those people on the social media. Sure. But at the same time, we really need to respect our First Amendment, which is freedom of speech. I believe anybody has the right to go out and say whatever is on their mind. And what's actually funny is if I was the kind of person to push things and

want to sue and all that, I could. Because in 2011, I became an ordained minister. It was online just so I could do marriages and all that. But I am still an ordained minister in the state of Oklahoma. So for those of you that don't know, as an ordained minister,

I can post up anywhere and say anything I want. That's how preachers and ministers get by with that. They're not regulated to the point of you have to set up and buy a permit to speak and all of this. As an ordained minister, you have the right to publicly express your religion as whatever it may be. so for hampering my freedom of speech and saying that it's misinformation or whatever is actually an attack on religious beliefs yeah it's a battle man it's uh the problem with litigating everything is you know you're up against a monster like a monolith that has tons of money lawyers on

on standby and time and you end up giving all your energy to something that you don't even really care about. The only energy you have is anger towards it. Like I thought about that with where I worked too. I'm like, I could totally sue these guys. But you don't want to put that much energy into it. You know, like, okay, they wronged you. Yeah.

What are you going to do about it? You want to stand in and fight them or you want to try to become something better. And the energy kind of hangs over you sometimes and just drains you. Yeah. I guess if you have the right thing, you can do it. But. And then at some point, you no longer care about it. You're just in it because you put so much time and effort. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's true. It's true. It's like a bad relationship. Like just leave. Just get out. Yeah. I mean, you're going to stay there and fight. Get out. Just fucking get out, man. Cut your losses and go. Yeah. And I think it's something that we as the people need to work on. Yeah. Is this something I want to.

to devote that much time and effort into. Is this something that I want to take time away from my family? Working on the road, like I said, I was a millwright. I spent seven months on the road, a year and a half on the road. I was away from my family. Yeah. So once I finished that job with Luke that we met at, I actually came home and started working on a farm.

Not far from here. Had a baby. I was with her every day. Yeah. I didn't want to leave anymore. Yeah. I didn't want to go out. And then I started a construction company and one of the first things I had to do was leap.

And that was one of the biggest moments for me was like, oh, well, here I am doing the same thing I didn't want to do. Yep. But you have to make sacrifices for your family. It's like going into that nine to five that you absolutely hate just so you can do your bills and put food on the table. Yeah. It's hard. It's hard. I spent, you know, 14 hours a day. I wake up at five, make breakfast, drop my kid off at school, be to work by seven, work till like nine, come home, everybody's sleeping. Just being so burned out, man, and just being so unhappy. Like, I'm making great money, but what am I doing with my life? Like, I don't, I'm never here. My wife's doing everything. My kid doesn't even see me. Like, at what point in time is all that money worth sacrificing the very things that you love? And that's what started eating me.

I'm like, what the fuck am I doing? Like, this is dumb. Like, and then there's the fear factor. Well, if you leave here, you can't support your family. If you leave this thing, you can't do it. You know, and then it just becomes this weird sort of negative looping thought in your mind that just weighs on you and pulls you down. And like, you got to break that pattern, man.

And yeah, and I think it brings you to the idea of battling with uncertainty. Like, yeah, you may not. know what's going to happen, but look at your past. Have you always been able to be okay? Yeah. Have you always been able to make it? Yeah. Have you gotten through all the tragedies in your life? Yeah. Okay. Well, then you're probably going to get through this one too. You know, in matter of fact, isn't it the big chances you took? Didn't they turn out good for you? Maybe not in the beginning, but didn't you see some silver lining in them? Yeah. Okay. And they make it stronger. Every one of them makes you stronger. Everyone, man. Every one. Every trial, every tribulation that you face as a

person makes you that much stronger. Yeah. Makes you that much of a better person. Yeah. I wake up every day trying to be a better person. That's my main goal in life is to be a better person every day. And that's one of the things that we as Q for you podcasts hope to accomplish. My big push is 10,000 subscribers.

Once we hit 10,000 subscribers on our podcast, then I want to personally take $10,000 cash to somebody's house, the winner of that month, and hand deliver that and say this. Because my hopes is it's something that it's somebody that needs it. And every time we've done a giveaway, it has been somebody that needs it. Somebody that's been on a tough time. That extra $100 really helped out. That extra $50, you know, they needed it at that moment. One of the people, he won.

He wasn't watching the podcast. he wasn't there to see it I didn't have his contact information so I reached out to another person I was like I really need to find him I need to get his PayPal I don't have his PayPal but he won $150 this month

and I mean it was probably a week of not hearing from him I went to other streams that I knew he was at sometimes to hang out and I would sit in the background just waiting for him to come in

I hate owing people money Yeah, I know. And I felt like I owed him. And finally I got a hold of him and he messaged me. I got his PayPal. I sent him the money. No, no, I take that back. He did not.

Somebody that he had sent money through PayPal to. I got his PayPal from them. And they're like, I don't know. And I was like, just give me his PayPal information so I can send him some money. Yeah. All right. So they sent it. And I sent him the $100.

bucks and it was probably another week after that he messaged me and he's like you don't understand how much that hundred dollars helped me out at that specific moment yeah why for having hard times um i was under a lot of stress i was wondering where i was going to get money to buy this and this and this and he said at that moment my phone dinged and there was a hundred bucks there And at that moment, I knew there was something out there that wanted me to succeed. And I was like, dude, that's what it's all about. That's so awesome, man. It's so awesome.

It's such a good feeling. Yeah. And every time, every time we've done a cash giveaway, it's been like that, you know. And sometimes during the middle of the month or something, I'll get a random moment. I'll go, let's do a $100 giveaway this month. Yeah. And I'll go through that list of subscribers. And I'll do a random number generator.

I have a number assigned to everyone. I'll do a random number generator. It gives me a number, and I'll look through the list. If that person's still actively subscribed, then I'll send one to their PayPal. And every time, they've been like, you don't know how much at that time that helped me.

It's a great feeling. And that's why, because you and I both know that $10,000 is not a small amount of money. That's huge, man. $1,000 is life-changing for somebody that's, Let's face it, money is a big issue right now. Feed your family went from $200 a week to $500 a week. Just to feed your house.

That $10,000 could relieve so much stress. And I'm not a fan of the GoFundMe's. I feel like GoFundMe has such a rotten reputation now. And, I mean, of course, I would say support me. Yes. Give me your money. Trust me. I'll make sure it goes to the right place. Right.

But at the same time, I think it's a way to benefit. You got $5 that, you know, that's one less can of tobacco. That's one of my cigarettes for you. Right. To help a creator grow to press fresh content and to have something that could pay off potentially in the future for yourself. it's like a stock market gamble. Yeah.

Yeah. I love it, man. I think it's a great idea. And like you said, I don't, I don't know that I've talked to anybody else that's given back like that, man. I think you're the first person, man. So congratulations. That's a great, great thing to do. And it's, it's, I don't know, I think it's worth expanding that idea.

I might have to steal it from you and use it myself. Use it. That's the thing. I mean, I would much rather see, like I said, let's look at Netflix. Netflix started out. If you guys remember, Netflix started out. It's $9.99 a month. I actually think before that it was like $6.99 and like Disney Plus and all them.

You got one movie in the mail that you had to mail in. Wait two days. You got your next one in. Yeah. That's how it began. And now it's charging, what, $20 a month? have they ever given you anything? Nope.

Nothing. Disney, look at Disney. Disney started out. They were going to be the premier broadcasting company. All their new movies were going to be delivered right to your television screen. And then they started holding out on us. They started saying, well, we realize that we should still do the DVDs in the box office and stuff like that. And then we'll put it on Disney Plus, right?

and have they ever given anything back? No, they've never given one of their supporters a trip to Disneyland. No. And that's how we wanted to be different. We want to give back to the people that support us. You give to us, we want to give back. Yeah, it makes sense. It makes sense.

Robert, this has been an awesome conversation, man. I love talking to you guys, dude. This is really fun. Yeah. We'd love to have you on our show sometime. I know it's later on the afternoon for you. Yeah. Yeah.

What time is it over there right now? It's 417 here, and we podcast at 7.30 Central Tuesday through Saturday. Okay, because it's 11.m. 11.17 a.m. over here. 11. 12, 1, 2, 3, 4. So we're 5 hours difference. Yeah. So, yeah. So that's, yeah, that's no problem.

So 5. 7 o'clock, your time would be 2 o'clock my time. Okay. So 2.30. 2.30. Yeah. Yeah, man. I don't know, man.

Anytime. Yeah, it's... Every Thursday tonight, you're welcome to come on and join us. Yeah. I don't plan it as early as you do. I have... Like I said, I'm on Rumble and stuff, so I'm limited to a 30-minute window

where I have to put all the information in. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's true. But, yeah, we'll definitely send you a link to your email if you want to jump in and join us tonight or whenever. You're more than welcome, man. All right. What's that?

Yeah, what, so it's seven and it's four, maybe in three hours. I got, I got a podcast at one. Maybe we'll see, man,

from one to two. The, the mental math hurts my head a little bit. I got a podcast at one, my time. That guy's, so I'll probably go till two o'clock.

Maybe 2.30. I don't know. I don't know, man. I will email you my phone number. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. That'd be much better.

Way easier. Yep. Okay. That'd be awesome. that. Okay. Fantastic, man. Well, I hope you have a fantastic day.

Shout out to Luke and just check out the books. Check out their content. Do yourself a huge favor. Subscribe to them. You never know. You could be the $10,000 winner. I love the ideas about making the world better. I think we're kind of cut from the same cloth in so many ways.

You guys got a show coming up tonight. Where can people find you if they're looking? So you can always find us on our website. site, Q4Upodcast.com. Every show we do is sent straight there live. And it's a library for all of our shows that we do. Some of them are still paid. I'm working on going through each and every one and making them, you know. But you can always find our show there. We've been on Rumble here lately for like the Tuesdays and Thursdays. We've kind of got a weird schedule with the different platforms we're on. But we have, like I said, a YouTube page, Rumble. Only fans, Instagram, YouTube, Facebook. You can find us anywhere. Reach out. But our day-to-day shows right now are on Rumble and our website.

Fantastic. All right, my friend. Well, I appreciate the time today. Looking forward to catching what you guys got coming up a little bit later today. And I'm sure we'll be in touch and be doing some more shows together, man. So I appreciate your time, man. Hang on one second. I'm going to hang up, but I still want to talk to you for one more minute.

Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, that's all we got for today. Aloha.