TrueLife - M.E. Robinson - Autism, Cancer, & Cannabinoids

Episode Date: June 17, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Darkness struck, a gut-punched theft, Sun ripped away, her health bereft. I roar at the void. This ain't just fate, a cosmic scam I spit my hate. The games rigged tight, shadows deal, blood on their hands, I'll never kneel. Yet in the rage, a crack ignites, occulted sparks cut through the nights. The scars my key, hermetic and stark. To see, to rise, I hunt in the dark, fumbling, fear. Hears through ruins maze, lights my war cry, born from the blaze.
Starting point is 00:00:40 The poem is Angels with Rifles. The track, I Am Sorrow, I Am Lust by Codex Seraphini. Check out the entire song at the end of the cast. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to True Life podcast. Hope everybody's having a beautiful day. It's Friday. It's Friday with two Ds because I got a double. dose of shows coming for you. I got the one and only Mike Robinson right here. I know that he doesn't
Starting point is 00:01:19 need an introduction for those who are watching, for those on my channel, but for those who may not know, let me just give him this quick little one to right here. He's well, high times top 100 most influential people in cannabis 2021. One of the top voices from around the world in the cannabinoid medicine education arena, founder of the global cannabinoid research center in Santa Barbara, co-founder of the Nanobles Corporation, Cancer, Survivor, Compassionate Father, amazing human being, lover of life's mysteries, great man all around. Super Stofe is here. Mike, thanks for being here, my friend.
Starting point is 00:01:54 I appreciate it. Well, I'm humbled by the introduction. I'll tell you, I'm not sure if I deserve all. We missed a few of the other things, but let's stay on the positive, you know, it is Friday. And for a lot of people, we worked all week, and it's like, weekend, you know. Yeah. Yeah, you know, it's been an interesting ride because, you know, I entered the cannabis industry. And originally as a civil rights lobbyist that represented kids with disabilities.
Starting point is 00:02:20 Right. And, you know, just a traveling one man pro bono show that had done for decades. And I ingested and found the wonders of cannabinoids and started researching that and began giving away in these big compassion programs. and that's truly how I became a researcher. And it's odd when I look at my bio now, like I'm the one website I have Researcher OG, which is pretty easy to look at anybody watching, researcher OG.com,
Starting point is 00:02:53 and it shows you my bio there and publicated. And I look at my own bio, and I'm like, is this truly me? I mean, 40-something international composions of medicine, and the organizational committee. I mean, I'm a total stoner. I don't know, all those great professional stuff. But, you know, this is the cannabis industry.
Starting point is 00:03:18 And a lot of us have grown from where we once went and got a medical card because we smoked weed. And now it's just the case. And we went from that to slowly discovering more and more and more. as all this different stuff got unearthed. You know, Rick Simpson came about. A lot of people don't know that the RSO, Rick Sinsons, thing didn't even happen until around 2000.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Around that year. Cannabis was already legal, had been for years after California's dropped through 15 in 96, and then you got the Rick Simpson story, and then it took years for that to get out, and then the RSO craze. And, wow, then we learned more about medicine. Charlotte came.
Starting point is 00:04:05 Charlotte left, rest in peace. And we got to learn about hemp in hemp extracts and cannabinoids. And I'll tell you, you know, I always hated on hemp. And it's one of the hardest things right now because it's like the very first retail brand after a decade of being involved in cannabis. I've never had a brand for sale. And the very first thing I have is called CBGA Crombo. And it's from him. I call it the Hatchet Cam.
Starting point is 00:04:43 And I'll tell you, back when I first got involved in this, even though CBD was my initial path into cannabis and cannabinoid medicine, I should say. My path into cannabis was around age eight and a half behind the library. I know that path. couple years of the head in school. So my friends were like 10 and 11 and I was only 8 and a half and I was like, oh, that was like, and I was like,
Starting point is 00:05:12 holy hell, and it was sort of like that one movie, you know, how high you drank the whole slurpy that was 40,000. Bigger than your head. I can't remember which one of those movies was, but it was like that, you know, and they all gone to them like.
Starting point is 00:05:28 So, so yeah, I mean, I have a long history of actually smoking the duby. And I think that it's important to integrate this message when I can. I mean, I can't do that from the symposium stage.
Starting point is 00:05:45 But what I can do when I talk to doctors about cannibalic medicine, which has to be a totally, completely a different kind of dialogue, is flash in a poster board show, diagnostics
Starting point is 00:06:01 that show multiple cancers, And oh, oops, that's out of order. Met for something else. Sorry about that. That just happens to be a document for my file that was reviewed at the American Academy of Cannibaline Medicine after I successfully beat three different stage four cancers using cannabis oils. So let's go back to the subject. That can be that, see?
Starting point is 00:06:28 You know, I call that subtle. I love it. I don't know. So, I mean, you know, personally, I think that we're in this really weird space in Canada. I mean, we've got billions of dollars of stuff being sold under Schedule 1. We've got the National Institute of Health funding not only studies but projects to create cannabinoid medicine. cannabinoid medicine. We have a bill pass allowing us to now legally research, quote,
Starting point is 00:07:11 cannabinoid medicine. And when you go to Schedule I substances, you've got this thing listed next angel dust and PCP and, you know, stuffing a hose up your ass. You know, you shouldn't do that aren't medically good for you, you know, unless you need the end of them out. The bottom line, it is, marijuana is on that list. It's not even cannabis. So it's like, first off, before we even descheduled cannabis,
Starting point is 00:07:48 let's call it cannabis on the federal level. Because it's not even called, it's so-called marijuana. I mean, I write blogs all the time, right? And I have to put medical marijuana in marijuana. And I, I, you know, I've always called it weed. Right. Type weed, right? You know, I'm good, stanky, dank bud.
Starting point is 00:08:14 We've grown, you know, we've learned so many different things. And it's one of the reasons why when I decided that, hey, it was time to bring a legitimate brand to a market, I wanted to legitimize a cannabinoid that people really haven't heard about a whole lot. I mean, we had Oregon State University blow up a sick hemp cannabroids about a year and a half ago in a petri dish study where they, you know, they dropped things in a petri dish. And there's the cell, there was, you know, basically a replication of the human COVID virus. And whether or not it would replicate was a study. It was found that CBGA and CDDA was the number one and two cannabinoids by far that would stop this replication and actually successfully stopped it.
Starting point is 00:09:12 But then the research just dies out. Imagine that. Where to go? It was a big pharma. That's where it went because what it did was hype up a cannabinoid and make it cost 700% of what it did before, totally depleting a market. And who bought it all? Who knows? Because there's not that many products in the market. And what is on the market is mostly made out of isolates. And a lot of us know that when we look at cannabis as medicine,
Starting point is 00:09:43 we've been taught some things that are pretty broad terms, like full spectrum. But what we haven't been taught yet is that there's full spectrum CBDs, full spectrum, THC, of course, that people know of, like Rick Simpson Oil. And then there's this CBGA is full spectrum of, it's a complete. CVGA. It's a complete extract out of the CVG plant, including the acidic cannabinoin. So we've grown to a point to where we have all these different types of cannabinoids to choose from, and consumers are totally spun. And I talk to people every day that tell me, Mike, I've spent 100, sometimes thousand trying to find what'll work for me.
Starting point is 00:10:36 I don't hear this down on the stoner. Because some people come to your feet, Mike, I just can't get high anymore. And this cannabinoid CVGA is known for causing endocannabinoic balance. We have an idiosanabinoid system for people that don't know this that are watching. I don't know how many your watchers are aware of this. We have this thing called an endocannabinoid system with these receptors in our brain. all throughout our neurological system and our lymphatic system, for example. Then we discover that it's all across our skin.
Starting point is 00:11:13 Then we discover the discoveries keep going. We discovered that our tissue, our very organs, have receptors. We discovered that cannabinoid receptors are in the uterus and require endocannabinoid activity at the point of conception. This is a published study. This is not just Mike Robinson. I mean, I am the founder of the global cannabinoid group. I know it doesn't mean much.
Starting point is 00:11:44 I mean, the bottom line is that these studies are real. We have so many studies showing us the value of the endocannabinoid system, but we don't have a federal mandate requiring all health care professionals learn it. This is getting a little bit concerning. It's been 21 years. 1992 was a publication on the endocannabinoid system by Raphael Mechle and Al, rest in peace. He just died. What a great mentor.
Starting point is 00:12:23 You know, but, you know, what a time. time to live in. I talked back and forth to the guy that discovered this and his team. I mean, it was a whole group of people. I don't know them all, that's for sure. But their quarterback is somebody actually typed back and forth to it. I didn't really, I sort of took that for grand, guy, in his 90s. And it's still, though, we have this system that was discovered through a network of universities working together, the endocannabinate system, and it modulates everything in our body. And we've discovered that there's countless, like a quintillion. I can't remember what the number was. It's just a countless number of receptors are in our mitochondria. Our mitochondria.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Okay. So now it's over. Okay. So first we found them all over the skin. First, we found them in the brain, right? Then we found them in the neurological system. Then we found these receptors for endocannabinoids in in the lymphatic system and beyond and endocrine system. And we're like, wow, this homeostasis occurs because of the endocannabinoid system operating right. But it hasn't operated right in 100 years because of prohibition. And it's just incredible. So many people don't know about it and their doctors don't know about it. And when their doctors say, hey, you shouldn't be using cannabis.
Starting point is 00:13:55 don't smoke that joint, they can't say, look, Doc, when I take a hit off this joint, my CB1 receptor is activated just to make it easy for you to understand. It lights up. And when it lights up, it acts as a neurotransmitter just like ananamined, an endocannabinoid that we're missing. All of us, and especially in medicine, should be. aware that we have clinical endocannabinoid deficiency syndrome. This was discovered in 2003. So now we're talking two decades ago. Again, doctors unaware that patients are clinically deficient of a neurotransmitter that runs all their systems. So how can you make any diagnostic correctly? If you don't know what the endocannabinoid system is, you don't know
Starting point is 00:14:51 the function of it, you don't know what endocannabinoid tone is. You don't even know what Indo-Cabloids are. And this is probably one of my biggest issues, you know. And I'm so glad I've got to go off this tangent and rant about this a little bit because, you know, I just did the shredder challenge. And right now that's going on. I don't know if you're on LinkedIn, but the American Trade Access has all these different shred challenges
Starting point is 00:15:18 where we tore a piece of paper and a half of Schedule I on it and challenged other people to do that. on video saying we don't support this you support freedom you know and and you know it's a shred the schedule hashtag you check out that hashtag it's pretty cool but but i'm just so sick of it i'm so sick of watching our government spend time on on wasteful practices when people need help and it doesn't matter if it's about ending prohibition on cannabis or a hundred different issues. I mean, we just have a situation where we're no longer represented correctly. We're in a Boston Tea Party situation.
Starting point is 00:16:12 You know, it is we're not dumping our weed in the ocean. Sorry, dudes. You've been in the game for a long time, Mike. Is it getting better? I mean, you've taken every approach possible from sneaking around the back to knocking on the front door to coming in with all the evidence, you know, using the, there's a good funny quote that says something about, you know, beginning to understand and utilize the master's tool so you can go to his house and break it down. Like you've done every sort of strategy possible. Is it getting better or is it, is it just something that's going to go with time or what do you think's happening? What can we expect for the future, man? Is it, are we break, are we, are we making a dent or are people learning? Is this education helping? What's going on, man?
Starting point is 00:16:59 Well, I see it helping. And that's one reason why I don't, you know, and I have to excuse my candor because I've quite a bit of it. I was a lobbyist for a couple decades representing disabled kids facing off attorneys and hearings. So I had to be, you know, smart at. Yeah. Really good at it anyway.
Starting point is 00:17:23 But I'm not into. the cheerleading contests I see in the U.S. Canada science, I don't see that helping us. Okay. What I see helping us is pressure internationally. It's what always has made a difference. If you look at what's going on right now in the U.S. government, I just published on my blog on CBGA crumble.com, it's sort of easy to find me there. You know what I mean? So I just published today about how the United States of America issued a resolution to Russia to change its Canada policy to release U.S. prisoners, which of course released their own too. And I'm sitting back going, wait a second.
Starting point is 00:18:17 We're taking near. I was really hopeful that Obama. in prohibition. I'll tell you, without a doubt, I thought he would. I thought Bush would before Obama came in just to lay something in there, leave something on the Bush name legacy like we did.
Starting point is 00:18:38 You know, but now I thought Obama's going to do it for sure. They had no way this guy. He's got the backing. Nothing didn't happen. Then, because these guys are all puppets. So the bottom line of it is That then we thought you know
Starting point is 00:18:56 This other guy would do it Who's sort of I mean I won't mention the name even because right now it causes too much chaos And that didn't happen You know there wasn't a lot of promises But you know Face value kind of thing Politicians Billionaires they tend to be
Starting point is 00:19:14 Full of shit So So you know The bottom of mind is we haven't seen in a probation. Now we got a guy that, you know, sort of seems to be stumbled on his way of the stage. I'm not going, holy hell.
Starting point is 00:19:32 If we have never had evidence, you guys don't truly run the country. We watch the guys sit on Twitter, go, I hate you all, and get away with it. How do you go four years without banning the dude on Twitter. I mean, when you've got a president, you can't keep out of arguing on social media,
Starting point is 00:19:57 don't you just rein that in a little bit as an entire party? I used to be a young Republican before as a civil rights lobbyist. Oh, no, I lost it right there. He'll be right back. It's crazy to think about it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:15 You know, how, how, how, sorry about that there's my pass to my car you know so I was a redneck razor and so my values
Starting point is 00:20:26 are still there I'm just independent in the middle of all this crap but I watch it all because I don't care who you are
Starting point is 00:20:34 in Washington D.C. right now you're failing us yep because as a whole you fail so if you're a football team and you lose
Starting point is 00:20:46 the Super Bowl you lost. So right now, as a leadership, you suck. And we need to work differently and towards a different path. And I believe that slowly things are changing. And that's why I have always targeted the International Symposium Circuit for cannabnoid medicine to talk about it. Use posters. Use simple.
Starting point is 00:21:15 I mean, I'll go by. video, I'll go by audio with just my picture and posters to appear in wherever, Egypt, you know, before Sri Lanka fell, I did one there. You know, I mean, we're just talking about getting the word
Starting point is 00:21:31 out all over that, look, we've taken some information and expounded on it and found that, look, cannabinoids can do a whole lot more than we thought, and the potentials are incredible. And it's very important that we continually
Starting point is 00:21:47 to look at potentials. Now, I'm a three-time cancer survivor who beat those cancers with natural extracts that came from a plant that I can't make claims on because, you know, I have a brand for sale and stuff, you know, some medical claims are allowed. I have severe epilepsy and, you know, nature helps me. But, you know, isn't it weird how. how we see all these claims made about things that are just garbage. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:27 TV ads about ranch dressing. Oh, like bounty felts. It's special. And consumers misled left and right of every last product. Go on Amazon, and it's like, man, you get a bunch of cheap, plastic, broken shit. But the description that misleads you to know it. And in cannabis, you can't just say, this helped me beat blank, unless you're a patient. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:01 And once you become, you cross the line. And I'll tell you, it's one of the reasons why I waited. You know, as a patient, I was ready to launch a brand in 2016. Right. And it was, it was, I didn't even know what CBGA was. Let me do another shame. Yeah. I don't know if you can see that or not.
Starting point is 00:23:24 Turn it a little bit towards me, a little bit more. Oh, one way. The four 20s easier to see. There you go. But, you know, it's interesting stuff. It's shot to you. Yeah. The Cromwell is really interesting.
Starting point is 00:23:39 And people don't smoke this that much or couldn't their joints a whole lot. they ingested. Take little bits and ingested. And they learned to do that for me. Well, tell me all about it, man. Is it a derivative from hemp? Like, is it a derivative from everything? Like, break it down for me, man.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Let me bring it down for it. Okay, CVGA occurs when there's this, this basically an eruption, like the volcano over there on the big island, okay? An eruption occurs between enzymes and turkeys. The next thing you know, you've got CBGA, which I call the granddaddy. I used to call the mother major and research years and years ago. And now that everybody calls the mother major. I won't take credit to name or that, but I will.
Starting point is 00:24:30 But anyway, you know, the bottom line of it is that CBGA creates THCA, CBCA, and CBD, which all three of those create a whole cascade of cannabinoids. So CBGA is the powerhouse, man. And this stuff right here, I call it the hacks of hemp. They're my purple fash. Check out the hatchet.
Starting point is 00:24:57 Nice. I love this stuff, man. Look at it. Whoa. But this stuff right here, okay, creates THCA, which creates THC, which creates CBN,
Starting point is 00:25:08 which creates CBN. Wow. Is it doing a, that body when I take it, is my body balancing? Is it using that raw material and then making those other ones out of it? Is that what's going on? No. That's one thing I'd love to clarify. Okay, Mike, it's doing all this one. I'm like, whoa, wait, that's not the message. And I'll probably write about that so I can let me know. What CBG does when we ingest it is, is the whole different thing than what CBGA is. So let's go over what it is first. Nice. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:43 What it is is this cannabinoid that creates all these different other cannabinoids. There is another cannabinoid, CBGBA, that creates the Varon cannabinoids, like THCBA, CBDBA, CBDV. These are more rare. We don't see these in the products on the market a whole lot. We hear about THCV, which is a Varon, for like dietary. stuff and people talk a lot about making you hyper. Okay, so move that aside and look at CBGA again. And we're talking about something that makes THC and CBD,
Starting point is 00:26:26 the two major things sold on the market. Now we're seeing CBG on the market. What's that? That's getting CBGA too hot. So what did CBGA make? All those things. What does CBG make? CBG.
Starting point is 00:26:48 So there's a huge disconnect in the market itself between consumers, between people selling products, even people growing. I have found that there just means more education on this. And I'll tell you, I didn't know what it was. I didn't know that there was a precursor molecule that made all the other cannabnoids. That's mind-boggling. I didn't figure that out until years after starting to use. I smoked T.A.T.
Starting point is 00:27:27 I got my medical card in multiple states, including the state urine. I got my card in Oahu right as they legalized it. Wasn't it, 2008? Yeah, I think so. It was before I left because I left January 2010 after eight years on the islands. But I'll tell you, I had a card there. I've had cards in multiple states, but it took me literally from 96, 97, right after the legalization in California. And the first part I got in California until 2012, here I need to ingest.
Starting point is 00:28:10 I didn't even know that cannabis, other than ingesting to get high, had some kind of medicinal properties. But as far as have, as far as this crap was concerned, what do you need to do with it? There was some tall lanky plant that didn't grow good buds. You can't get stoned if it was. So anyway, and I got a card because they had epilepsy, you know, and I'm like, okay, this helps me. Right? I feel better. I don't know if I... I'm not sure if I sees less,
Starting point is 00:28:45 but I sure know I wanted to smoke a joint and left the hospital a lot sooner. So I saved the system a lot of money by giving a cannabis card with severe epilepsy and smoking weed instead of, you know, ingesting it and doing other things that actually treat the problem, you know, because I just wanted to get the hell out of the hospital,
Starting point is 00:29:08 you know, smoke a joint. So yeah, that's an interesting avenue. Maybe they did that on purpose. So the bottom line of it is, now it's just evolution. We're evolving and evolving and evolving. And now we've learned about things like CBGA. But for me, what it took was this long chain of events where I was introduced to ingestion. I began giving cannabis away in compassion programs.
Starting point is 00:29:36 I got sick with multiple cancers. started traveling the roads just thinking my time was done. And I'm going to pave my way ahead. Wherever I'm going, man, it's time to believe. And just do whatever good I can do, man. I mean, as a race car driver, even as a civil rights lobby, it's fight for people's lives with these flying stuff to get it done. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:30:06 It's just the facts. I can't litigate a case without being. full of shit. I'm sorry. The way it goes. Last minute, pivot, pivot, pivot. So the bottom line of it is, you know, I just figured that life is
Starting point is 00:30:24 over, three stage four cancers at one time bone metastasis and a gun. I'd already had cancer once treated at Queens in 2003. When I got treated in Queens, it caused paralysis from a racing recognition.
Starting point is 00:30:40 to return. I spent two and a half, almost three years my time in a Wajoo in a wheelchair. You need a chemotherapy. So when I got it, 2015, there's no way in hell I was having chemo again.
Starting point is 00:30:53 So I was just going to walk off and die. Now I saw the memes and stuff on Facebook and I'd been in the whole compassion thing already, so I knew all about Rick Simpson and all that stuff. So of course, that's what I went for. Give me the RSO. Immediately, you know, my
Starting point is 00:31:10 initial guys that I worked with were a little more professional. I know, we call it FICO. It's full extract cannabis oil. And that's all I did was get that stuff, move it all over. And then one day I knocked on a door that's about eight feet away, my own front door, and brought oil to a girl named Genev. And I even gave her a CBD, and she didn't respond right, you know. She's thought, and I'm putting that mildly,
Starting point is 00:31:39 response to CBD was very adverse. And I had this happen to me with more than one child. You know, a lot of kids do really good. You know, I mean, everybody responds to stuff differently. I've watched kids do well with the same diagnosis, sometimes with T.HCA, sometimes with actual T.HC. Sometimes CBD all right stuff, we're great. sometimes, you know, so as we've learned to go to all these different cannabinoids back then, seven years ago, you know, Genevieve, after a month of being her compassion provider, her mom and I went on a date.
Starting point is 00:32:27 But I wasn't dating back to know, sick. You know what I mean? But I was on a road and traveling a lot. But something happened when I met Genevieve. The love story happened then. It was like the moment I met her. You know, this child that I was told, nobody could go in a room, allowed me in a room. When I sat in her bed, her mom just didn't meet all, like, what's going on?
Starting point is 00:32:50 I don't sit there kind of thing. She doesn't let people. And she came over to me to show me stuff. And she had an iPad. And she started just doing things. When I met, Genevieve, she was having a seizure. I gave her oil immediately. And I can talk about that now
Starting point is 00:33:11 because the statute of limitations is over and all that. You have to be a criminal to help people with oils and travel around like that. You know, you can't just give a kid that's seizing and could die from that seizure in oil. That's crime. It's crazy. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:33:33 But, you know, it's, it's, trip to the, I didn't know what CBD was until it was Genevieve, because she responded to that THC and didn't respond to the CBD. So as her mom and I got together, it got to a point to where I got really close. And she was using oil at school, going to school, using a lot of oil, and she just started using it. She was pretty naive, but she could really take a pretty big dose of THC and CBN, you know, two very psychoactive cannabins across red eyes, cotton up, all these different things. And it's not about the worry of brain stuff for young kids.
Starting point is 00:34:18 We're talking about correcting some of these severe epilepsy. It was more about do you want that appearance, you know? If there are way around this, is there a way around using this, this and that. And that's what led me to this Canabro. After doing some research, I was like, there's this canabroid and nobody's got it,
Starting point is 00:34:45 but where do we get it? And I was like, well, it's in THC and CBD plants as they convert. First, I found some CBD plants. It wasn't easy, but I was traveling at the time, so it was a little bit easier because I wasn't in California. And tried to grab some of those at six, seven, eight weeks and couldn't get very much CBGA. And then I found that T.H.C. cultivars were much more, they're much easier for me to, you know, it was an advanced in school kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:35:28 You know, but I'm able to look at things and see things, you know, and I was able to look at the THC plants and see we're there. We're at the point of conversion in which this plant, and I have never grown cannabis, okay? I'm just a researcher and just a different person, you know, why are you a little bit different? So, so, but what I found was the plant converts from CBGA over to THC and it's pretty quick. You don't got a lot of time. That thing, that plant could be sitting at five, five and a half percent CBGA. And it's going to move into THCA. It didn't sit there for a month like that.
Starting point is 00:36:16 It's out there for two days like that at the most. I don't even know. Is it like in the vegetative stage? Is there like a certain stage where the plant is where it is like that? It's flowering. Okay. About seven weeks in the flower. Ah, okay.
Starting point is 00:36:35 Seven to eight weeks in the flower is what I read. That's the first, that's what I went off of, was reading that. And then I found it depended on who was growing it. Then I found out it depended on where. So it took a while to find CBG. But as it was found, which was pretty quickly, because it was my girlfriend's daughter at this point. You know what I mean? We made something we called Autism Love out of it.
Starting point is 00:37:05 And I found that a lot of people that weren't responding adults with every malady you could think of, didn't quite respond to CBD, but didn't want THC, respond to this oil. Now, on my own, I didn't really consider the fact that, you know, you take a bottle of a prototype and go, okay, I made this. I mean, if you have any kind of impediment, you need some kind of safety study. So you drink the whole thing, and you do that over and over again, and can make you sick or do you the runs.
Starting point is 00:37:44 because you know he had to much MCT no but I'm just saying that I had no idea what it would do for me because I didn't like him to begin with and you didn't feel anything and I've always been a stoner
Starting point is 00:37:59 and that's the thing about CBGA is when you can't feel anything from this and you start ingesting that man you saw what I've lit totally straight at the start of this podcast
Starting point is 00:38:28 I had to pick up glasses about halfway through to see you and things that well I know my big I use wearing glasses but still but I started getting high school high real quiet you know and that's an old school term Not saying high school people should get high.
Starting point is 00:38:51 I was saying, you know, back in our day when we snuck out and turned one. We got so fast. And I get that way. And literally this that I lit on your show, go that and I'll do that. I've got one right here that that was from like the earlier part of the week. And I'll do that. know, my office is closed off. You know,
Starting point is 00:39:21 you know, like, Eric is going out of here. You know, but, but anyway, see, I'm like old school. Yep. But, but no, seriously, though,
Starting point is 00:39:32 you know, a lot of us, a lot of us smoked cannabis for a long time. Smoked weed, smoke the ganja, whatever we want to call it. If you're a sonar,
Starting point is 00:39:44 I made CBGA 420, so you pay attention. I'm going to get some fancy branding. It's all flashed. You know what I mean? So 4.20. You open this thing up? Yes.
Starting point is 00:39:56 Guess what? I've got work to do. I can't stay in this state I'm in. And I don't want to take some CBD right now and mitigate my T.AC. Mitigation means offset and make it not work anymore. just metabolize it away. Instead, I want to take some CBGA, which will also metabolize it.
Starting point is 00:40:27 But while it does, CBGA goes in the system and works so unique, so unlike any other exogenous or plant cannabinoid or synthetic cannabinoid and nursing anything like this stuff before. It goes in and it's like this metabolic thing
Starting point is 00:40:49 that metabolizes things that are bad. Now, that's probably my best way to describe what it does. I don't see it just metabolize. CBD sort of garbage disposal stuff, you know, pharmaceuticals, that work. And a lot of people said, oh, CBD synergistic with THC. And I disagree. No, how is it synergistic if it knocks it out?
Starting point is 00:41:16 No, is pulling it away, so it's easier to say, hey, you can take a gram because it's one-to-one. Yeah, okay, because it's surely not even one-to-one. By the time you take it, that half is pulling away from the other half, so it's more like a quarter of a three-quarters. There's a lot of different ways to use cannabinoids, and no two-parties should ever agree, because we all have different endocanabinoid systems. So anybody that says, Mike, I don't think you're right. I'm going to say you're right. I'm probably completely wrong for you.
Starting point is 00:41:54 Right. Okay, but for me, I'm on point. And for a lot of other people, I am too, because we're all different. So, you know, the message I send nowadays is endocanabinoid balance, you know, balance that system, you know, smoke your weed, smoke your gonja, enjoy legalization, enjoy it to the mess.
Starting point is 00:42:21 I mean, there's so much. I don't have, the only thing I don't like about recreational laws, for example, are what they do. You know what I mean? I can't say I don't like that there's recreational loss. I can't say that I think that it should only be medicinal. Some people take that platform. I believe in all of them.
Starting point is 00:42:43 and the civil rights guy. So I believe that you should have cannabis lounges if you want them. I believe that you should be able to walk in the park smoking and chint if you want to. I believe that you should be able to grow up like a tomato. I totally believe in using it as medicine, but we can't even talk about it like that. And we were like band, barred and going to be soon, find, whatever, kicked off, censored. You know, so I mean, so I believe in all of it, but what you can do more legally, which is odd, not odd, it's the way our government works to make things look bad, is you can smoke the hell out of it, right? And big old cheesy, blisies and go to cookies with burner wrapping and stuff.
Starting point is 00:43:31 I love burners' wraps, you know, bat back about Elon. You go buy all these fancy seeds and all cool merch and shit and be star. 420, you know, but you can't talk about it. It's mess and they want it that way. And that's cool for right now because, hey, we like having access. So as long as the laws pass and allow
Starting point is 00:43:53 people to get access to things, I'll be happy. And, you know, I just want people to learn endocannap. Yeah. It's my message. It's like, I don't even care what you do to achieve it because I'll tell you
Starting point is 00:44:07 can do meditation. yoga exercise. You can eat right with the omegas. You can take vitamin B. You can take vitamin omega 369. You can take folic acids. You can take a lot of different supplements, get a lot of exercise, and have a healthy
Starting point is 00:44:26 endo canabinoid system. We see people walking around every single day that don't use cannabinoids at all, none. Not even the stuff I've talked about today. And they've got a good ECS. Their endocannabinoid system and their ECS tone is good. And I can tell because they can't even smoke a joint.
Starting point is 00:44:49 So if they can't even smoke a joint, that means they're populated so much with the endocannabinoid that looks like THC. They don't need THC. Okay? So, I mean, it's possible to not need certain stuff. But most of the population just doesn't fit that script. I'd see like 95% in America, maybe 97. So, hey, you know, I just hope people, you know, take the time to learn a little bit more.
Starting point is 00:45:20 And when they're out shopping around, you know, consider everything. Consider CBD. I don't have CBD stuff. I don't know if I ever will. You know, but, you know, consider CBGA, CBG, consider the T-HC. of course, most of you walk in a dispenser, that's what you're looking for. And, you know, it's weird how the government's divided it.
Starting point is 00:45:47 If you walk into a dispenser, you will not find this because I can't put it in there. Now, through a loophole, by calling it smokable, the CBGA-420, if we completely package it to fit the regulations, will go into California dispensaries. And then we'll be able to introduce CBAGA 420,
Starting point is 00:46:08 VGA in a mass level to a lot of people that are just getting high. You know what I mean? Because a lot of dispensary sales are too recreational and people with more money. And a lot of people do go to the dispensary and get something for medicinal. But most medicinal people find other ways. You know, they start growing and they find their connections and do their things. and do their thing. But anyway.
Starting point is 00:46:41 Do you think, Mike, do you think that maybe sometimes, I'm curious about this, people that have a relationship with different plants or, you know, you explained about the way in which you found that sweet spot where it was CBGA before it became THC, do you think a lot of the healing can come from growing or beginning to really understand what's happening in the plant? Like, it seems like we can learn a lot from the process the plant is doing you know what i mean like you learn a lot about yourself that way we're already there i'll tell you there's already b ga cultivars that happened for five seven years there's cbGA cultivars don't
Starting point is 00:47:18 even convert to cbg there's cbc cultivars now being birds and getting ready to go out there to where we're going to see cbc plants and i don't know what wow it's pretty much going to do that because now you're going to have cbg a plants like i'm showing you cbg crumble you're going to have cbg plants which are, you know, don't have the A, so they don't do all the stuff this does. You know what I mean? So it's going to, it confuses consumers already. Right. And that's one reason why I brought forward CBGA Crumble as a brand on CBGA crumbull.com
Starting point is 00:47:57 as a website. So this makes it really easy to understand, you know, and then make everything on the website easy to understand. And then we have worked on for years, Genevieve's dream. Because Genevieve, the girl I came to her house to see seven years ago, started to call me Daddy almost seven years ago. So, you know, I'm now her conservative. She's almost 20 years old. And we created this brand to fund her life and her dream.
Starting point is 00:48:31 It's the Carousel Challenge, and it's on the Crumbo website now on the menu. where people can go look at it. It just goes right to that page. It shows all about her love for carousals, her desire for this carousel village. She wants her own big carousel because hers left. She considered a local ride
Starting point is 00:48:53 that was just massive and old and original hers. And she did for so long and everybody said, your carousel, take them to you to... So now we have to bring her a ride and we'd bye-bye of low kisses. And we've been doing that for six years now since 2017. It's pretty heartbreaking.
Starting point is 00:49:11 And I'm done. You know, I tried to get industry farmers and this is not to create the dream farms and blow it up. I tried to get all these joint venture things, but it's hard to do that. It's hard to bring this new concept because people are like, should I do it? I mean, no even though this stuff is. So, you know, I've got a partner that'll do it. And we decided, hey, let's launch CBGA crumble, teach people what CBGA is. You know, take all that educating doctors all over the world crap and turn into language everybody can understand.
Starting point is 00:49:53 And I'm still working on that, believe me. And then put Genevieve's dream, a CBGA tincter, that website and that's in production right now and it's literally gonna be almost like CBD was introduced Charlotte came and Charlotte's gone TWU Sciences still has Charlotte's well I believe you know rest and peace yeah you know she came and changed the world you know and brought forward a new cannabinoid that wasn't really new but but new to the world you know there's something that does something that you're not used to
Starting point is 00:50:34 and it's not getting any high while it's doing it. And now here's CBGA stepping up right now being that next thing. It's not just CBG that people got sort of thought was CBGA. There I go. CBGA is another major. People actually learn that. And then they thought CBG was it. And it isn't because people sort of looked at THC where THCA doesn't doesn't get you high,
Starting point is 00:51:03 but THC does and it's really effective. So they thought, okay, the age has got to come off the CBGA for it to be good. And no, it's the other way around with that cannaboid. And that's why I'm excited to see Genevy's Dream launched out there because it's her brand. The trademark is in her uncle's name. He was my partner in a nanotech entity. And he holds the trademark.
Starting point is 00:51:30 He's a brother. Yeah. We went to Puna-Hau. That's a Pondale. And from the islands. So I partnered up with a brought up on the island and we've got this entity here in the Bay Area. And it holds the trademark for Genevieve's dream
Starting point is 00:51:50 to be transferred to Genevite as it's registry. And the brand itself already in our agreement is Genevieve's brand. I'm going to trust her or conserved her. Of course, I've received everything. But this thing is being created with a concept of soccer to create a fund, this dream fund that not only gives her a carousel, but gets rid of like long waits for dentists, long waits for doctors, state funded therapies just don't show up anymore.
Starting point is 00:52:24 You know, things like that that really impede the life of somebody with a developmental delay like her. as a young adult, we want to give her the most autonomy as possible. And we believe that without any judgment and critique of any other brand out there named after a child or whoever, you know, this is an adult. And it doesn't matter if she lives under a roof in the theater. No, that matters. What matters is she gets compensated. you know and we make this fund that buys are this big ass carousel and more we start looking at the whole thing like hey let's create a world a life and it was like well maybe i'll match the fund
Starting point is 00:53:19 and then i was like well this product is all about that whole life so let's just go that way you know, with at least our end to the stick. You know, we have a revenue partner for production and all that kind of stuff, and you need that. There's no possible way you can do something like this on your own, especially
Starting point is 00:53:41 if you have a brand that gets massive. You need business people that know what they're doing. You know, and so I'm excited to be able to bring the world that in a tincture because it's so much different. You know, we've got something in the
Starting point is 00:53:56 drop a bottle, you know, you've got like the capability of taking something, you know, a golden oil and just, and now you've got something that that is delivering a lot differently. Doesn't look like, you know, hash. You know what I mean? For the gold crowd, that's great. But for kids, older people, a lot of them want some drops, some capsules or something like that. Is it dose dependent? Like, when I see it in the dropper bottle, is it like,
Starting point is 00:54:26 one millimeter is equivalent to like a half a gram or I mean is there certain dosages for certain things or is it because everybody's system is different the medicine will be a different dosage for each person well I mean whatever you you're purchasing has so many milligrams per ML right but there is a universal charging right I can't go into medical claims or what or how good point you know but what I can say is that as a researcher, I have never been comfortable with the Western medicine overlap of dosing charts. It's like, hey, you know what? We had major, major issues with people taking stuff three times a day.
Starting point is 00:55:14 They only needed PRN. We had major, major issues with giving people a 10 milligram tablet with no option to break it into 10 parts. You know, I mean, on and on and on, to where people didn't get to take a little piece of it. And I'll tell you, it's one of the things I love about crumble, and people and adults love it about crumble too. They can look at it and go, and you get this gut feeling after you use it for a while. I think I mean. And so dose response is different in each person, how they respond to the dose. This cannabinoid I've used a lot of today.
Starting point is 00:55:54 And you can tell because it looks like I had like eight shots of disperso. But it's a very, very energizing cannabinoid. And it does an amazing job for endocanabinoid system. The whole system is amazing. The whole plant is amazing. Every last bit of it. You know, there's so many negatives thrown out about the cannabis industry. that today, I want to end my week right now because it's about happening.
Starting point is 00:56:31 You know, here on the West Coast, just the thought that this is a good thing, you know. Sure, there's bad people, negatives, and this and that, but this is a really good thing. We're seeing plants accepted finally. We haven't seen it on the federal level yet, but we will. Yeah. And for me, you know, anybody watching this can go to Cannabislovestory.com. Another easy website. All of mine are really easy.
Starting point is 00:57:04 So cannabislovestory.com tells the story of my family and why I'm sitting in this chair in this location. I wouldn't be here otherwise. I never, I mean, Santa Barbara, I never had even visited much before. So definitely wasn't a plan location's list. But, you know, it's where my family was born from the cannabis plant, from compassion, from love, from giving, from care, from the desire to help people and see things change. So with that, you know, I just want to end this and saying,
Starting point is 00:57:47 thank you so much for having me. And I look forward to, you know, talking with you again sometime. And, you know, in all of this, we didn't even talk about the fact I'm fighting cancer for a time and beating it, you know. But that's okay. You know, I mean, there's always in the podcast. But, you know, I think that people should keep their options open. They consider the plants, consider every aspect, even juicing it. throw some in your garden, try to be self-sufficient.
Starting point is 00:58:23 Yeah, and check out, I don't know if you've said the, I don't know if your website's easy enough for people to remember. Maybe you could throw it to them again. The CBGA crumble.com? Yeah, it's sort of like, like, I don't know if you can read that. It's hard. CBGA crumble. I think this says CBGA.
Starting point is 00:58:46 crumble.com. And I'm telling you, it's pretty easy one to get to. Yeah, I got a link down below too. Mike, this has been amazing, man. I love every part of it, man. I think you have a very incredible way of getting points across, and it runs the scope of, you know, the kind of the trickster deity a little bit,
Starting point is 00:59:08 a little smack talking a little bit, and a little bit of throwing it in people's faces and compiled with some compassion, man. I love the way. you communicate. I love what you're doing. I love what you have done. Man,
Starting point is 00:59:19 I'm looking forward to talking more and getting my hands on some of the crumble myself. So thank you for the message today, man. So anything else you want to hit on before we leave? Hey, be kind to one another. Everybody, please.
Starting point is 00:59:34 Nice. That's the number one thing I ask of anybody to everybody if they ask them that question because we truly don't know. And just like the cheesy means to, says we don't know what people are going through and we could look at somebody who looks strong strong strong and they're not and this week i got a pretty intensive reminder of that through the loss of a good friend's son you know and it was a depression move that nobody expected
Starting point is 01:00:08 so you know it's it's it's young too 20s man so so You know, so it's just love one another. Yep. Yep. All right. Well, ladies and gentlemen, I hope you guys enjoyed the show. Go to the show notes, check it out, play this back, have a good laugh, get some insight, get some understanding. And, you know, Genevieve's dream, let's make it possible out there and check out the website.
Starting point is 01:00:35 Mike, hang on one second. I'm going to talk you for a moment after this, but to everybody else out there, Aloha. Aloha.

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