TrueLife - Radiant Resilience: Healing the Mind, Body, and Spirit W/Angela Lerro

Episode Date: November 5, 2023

One on One Video Call W/George https://tidycal.com/georgepmonty/60-minute-meetingSupport the show:https://www.paypal.me/Truelifepodcast?locale.x=en_US🚨🚨Curious about the future of psychedelics? Imagine if Alan Watts started a secret society with Ram Dass and Hunter S. Thompson… now open the door. Use Promocode TRUELIFE for Get 25% off monthly or 30% off the annual plan For the first yearhttps://www.district216.com/Ladies and gentlemen, it is with great pleasure and excitement that I introduce you to a remarkable individual who has journeyed through life’s most formidable challenges, emerging as a beacon of healing, hope, and transformation. Angela Lerro is not just a survivor, but a conqueror of adversities, having faced breast cancer, Lyme disease, and Mold toxicity with unwavering courage and resilience.Angela’s story is one of extraordinary evolution, from her battles with life-threatening illnesses to her profound healing journey, which has taken her to depths of the human soul and spirit that few of us have explored. As a Reiki practitioner and intuitive life coach, Angela specializes in harmonizing the mind, body, and spirit, providing a haven of balance in our fast-paced, often stressful world.With a deep commitment to personalized care, Angela crafts unique healing experiences for each individual, employing a rich tapestry of techniques, including crystal therapy, essential oils, meditation, and various energy healing practices. Her profound journey through personal healing has ignited a passionate dedication to extending that vitality to others.But Angela’s reach extends far beyond the confines of her Los Angeles practice. She offers distant Reiki sessions, ensuring that healing transcends physical boundaries, reaching the hearts and souls of those who may not be able to visit her in person.Angela’s gift lies not only in her knowledge and practice but in her boundless love, compassion, and empathy, which she extends to every client, igniting their drive for positive change.Today, we have the privilege of delving into Angela’s inspiring journey, her philosophies on life, healing, and self-discovery, and her wisdom for all of us seeking balance, resilience, and a deeper connection to our own inner healing potential. Angela Lerro, welcome to our conversation, and thank you for sharing your incredible story and insights with us.”https://www.linkedin.com/in/angela-lerro-28b7bb9b One on One Video call W/George https://tidycal.com/georgepmonty/60-minute-meetingSupport the show:https://www.paypal.me/Truelifepodcast?locale.x=en_USCheck out our YouTube:https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPzfOaFtA1hF8UhnuvOQnTgKcIYPI9Ni9&si=Jgg9ATGwzhzdmjkg

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I have an incredible guest for you with an incredible guest. story and I think it's a it's a story that weaves together the idea of trauma and overcoming tragedy and different modalities. And in some ways, I think the story you're about to hear today will echo through your home and you will see parts of yourself in this story. So without any further ado, ladies and gentlemen, is with great pleasure and excitement that I introduce you to a remarkable individual who has journeyed through some of life's most formidable challenges, emerging as a beacon of healing and hope and transformation. Angela Lero, she's a survivor, a conquer,

and has come across some of life's biggest adversities like breast cancer, Lyme disease, some mold toxicity, having family members leave her at an early age. And I could go on. But I think I would just stop my talking right here and kick it over to you. Angela, how are you doing today? Hi, George. Aloha.

I am doing really, really well today and I'm just so honored. And I feel so much gratitude to be able to chat with you, to meet you, to connect with you, and to do this podcast with you and to share my story with so many other people. So thank you so much for having me today. How are you? Well, it's a great question. Thank you for asking. I'm going to go with Fair.

And I want to jinx it. It's kind of early in the morning. And if I say I'm doing good, something could happen. But these signs are showing me that things are looking pretty good today. And I try to always see that the glass is half full. You know, I realize it was so much going on in the world. I'm lucky to have a pillow to sleep on. And I got people in my life that love me.

And I'm doing something I love. And I'm getting to share stories with people that I think are transformative and can show a path for other people. And both you and I are working on RAN's project. heal where we're doing our best to try to help people by sharing vulnerable parts about ourselves that are pretty uncomfortable at times. And hopefully it resonates with other people. But that brings me to this idea of trauma. And, you know, that's kind of why, my personal opinion is that trauma and horrible things happen to you because it's this thing in life where we're

tested. And when these things happen to you, the test is, okay, it happened to you because number one, you're strong enough to get through it. And number two, the world needs people to go through these traumas so it can turn around and help the next person through. And you know what? When we talk about trauma in your life, you face some really big adversities in your life. And as we were talking prior to getting started, it started at a pretty early age for you.

Maybe you could fill people in on how we began the conversation. Absolutely. Absolutely. And before I do, I wanted to actually just kind of piggyback on what you were saying about trauma. and, you know, how it can really, when you go through such adversity and traumatic experiences, how it can really help people get through their own. And I've lived by this quote saying, you know, what you're going through currently is someone else's lifeline.

And that, for me, made the biggest difference, not only my healing journey as a patient, but also as becoming a practitioner because I never want. And I think that it's like a collective thing, the people that have gone through such immense trauma is that we have such deep compassion in our hearts that we've really made it a mission to help others, but also to be their lifeline so that they know that they're not alone because we know firsthand what that loneliness and that suffering feels like

within ourselves. And so, yeah, I completely, like, resonated with what you said there. And I just wanted to state that before I forgot. Yeah, thank you. Thank you. It's true. Yeah. But, no, like, as we were, as we, now to answer your question,

to go back to where we were. Sorry for that tangent. It's perfect. But, no, I have. Thank you. for her knowledge of the acknowledgement and um but yes i have been through i mean i've just been through trauma i guess you could say through hell really and back um especially like more so over the last 10 years but really if i have to look at my trauma as a whole i've been battling trauma since i was a child

And I really feel that that trauma is what kind of set the bar for the trauma that I've experienced through my healing journey, which I'll talk to about later on. But, you know, I grew up in a very emotionally dysregulated home, you know, with a very intense father who I, I ended up losing when I was only nine years old. Unexpectedly, he passed away. And I was really sick growing up as a child as well. I had mysterious illnesses and weird symptoms. And at the same time, I had a lot of mystical experiences happening that I knew I inherited. from my father because my dad was an incredible psychic and incredible mentalist. He could read

people's mind, which was really an art that I just like I could talk to you about that for hours. I mean, that was one of the most incredible features about him was that we could just, like the way that he could read people's minds and we would, he would like make games out of it where we would take cards, you know, and we could go through a whole deck of cards, telling you every single number and every single suit that these cards were in. And through his gifts, he gave that gift of intuition and mediumship. And so, you know, like at this early age between like maybe three and five, I started developing my own spiritual gifts.

And so as I was going through my own healthy, issues through those my childhood years and then losing my father, I felt like not like, yes, I lost my dad, but there was a part of those gifts that were trying to develop, but I didn't have a teacher. And that became very traumatic for me because I, not only was I, you know, dealing with the trauma of losing my father, but trying to navigate seeing spirits when you're four and five years old, screaming, you know, every morning because you're, you see a ghost. or a spirit or, you know, you're feeling something or you're hearing something, but, you know,

you think like that you're going crazy and you, it's not like I could, you know, so I would sit there and, you know, after I lost my dad, you know, I would sit there and try to talk to his spirit. But it ended up becoming such a traumatic time for me, especially as I became a teenager, because I didn't want anybody to know these things about me. So I was really trying to not be the weird girl. I'm trying to find myself as a teenager like everyone else. And at the same time, I'm still having all of these health issues, mysterious hormonal issues, and Western doctors were just not giving me any health.

And, you know, my mom used to joke and say that CVS had my own, or I had my own medicine cabinet at CVS because all the doctors would do is just, you know, we'd go to the doctor and get another prescription. Oh, you know, that prescription didn't work. We'd go back to CVS and have another one. I mean, I've been living at the doctors my whole life. Yeah. So again, it's just that traumatic of just, and then just the, you know, the trauma of having, going through more and more loss as I got older and the relationship with my mom changed significantly when she started dating. So it was just like one thing after another. And then eventually when I graduated high school, you know, I just moved to Los Angeles and went to college out there. And that was, even though it was awesome, it was still kind of traumatic because I left my home. And but I made a new home for myself there.

And, you know, fast forward 10 years later at 28 years old, I'm 38 now, I got breast cancer. So then that was more trauma and more dis-ease. But ultimately, that diagnosis of breast cancer, I also was diagnosed at the same time with like an autoimmune disease in my esophagus called usinophilic asophagitis, which was created by an abundance of like histamine in my body and mass cells. And so I really turned to a spiritual approach because at that point, you know, here I am, you know, 20 some years later of going through medical doctors, medical doctors, medical doctors that led me to this diagnosis of breast cancer. And Western medicine was still not working other than I did get a mastectomy. But after that, everything just started to blow up in my face.

And during that, that time was when I met a Reiki Master who happened to be volunteering for my cancer center. And she came over to me the minute I met her. And she just looked at me and she goes, you know why you're sick? and I just looked at her and I was like, no, because I think I'm going to die at this point. And I don't really care why I'm sick. And she goes, well, I think you should know that you're sick because you're not using your gifts. Wow. And I just remember just like starting to cry because I had been, I knew it was like the secret that I'd been carrying around my entire life.

and I didn't want anybody to know this. And I'm 28 years old in my cancer center, you know, feeling like I'm going to die. And this stranger, you know, who I just met tells me this. And I said, okay, well, I just never had the teacher. And she just looked at me and she goes, well, when the student's ready, the teacher appears. That's true. And I just like immediately just, like, immediately just. burst into tears and she channeled rakey for me that day at the cancer center and then afterwards

I agreed to start seeing her privately and she worked with me like no other she gave me the most beautiful blessing I um that I could have ever ever asked for um because at that time I mean I was sick I was broke I was broken I was broken um I didn't have, I had support of my boyfriend, but that was, you know, I didn't have a lot of support from friends or family because I was 3,000 miles away. So it wasn't like I had, you know, family surrounding me. And this woman just was like, I don't want you to pay me for any of these services because I didn't have any money. She goes, all I want you to do is show up and do the work. And I didn't know what that meant.

I was like, I'll show up. I don't know what the work is, but I'll work. And so I showed up every single week at her house. And for over almost 10 months. And at the time, now, when I moved to Los Angeles, I went to school for fashion, and I was working in the fashion industry. And when I got sick, thankfully,

I was able to take a leave of absence from my job. but as you know, the fashion industry is very material. And it's very like high-paced, high, you know, fast-paced. I was working and with like a high-end retailer. And, you know, I was doing personal shopping and personal styling. And I was working with celebrity clients. And I was just like, as I was going through cancer, you know, losing my breasts and losing my femininity at this. I mean, that was what it felt like was losing everything.

the one thing that I was finding during this spiritual journey working with her was that it didn't really care so much about fashion anymore. But I knew that I was going to have to figure out what I was going to do next. And after one of my sessions with her after about nine months of healing, now mind you during that nine months of healing with Reiki, I reversed every single all my allergies were reversed. All my food allergies were reversed. All of my post-cancer symptoms were reversed. My nervous system regulated. I literally was, I went from being bedridden to walking again.

And that was just through the Reiki and the energy work that I was experiencing with her. And I remember coming out of one of my sessions with her. And I remember always setting that intention of like, what am I going to do next once I heal? And I just looked at her and I said, I'm feeling really called to do this work. Like, this is my mission to turn my pain into purpose. And I just remember we both started crying. And then I started training with her with Reiki. And because during that time, I was working with her as I was healing was also because my intuition.

it was like I let it out of a box. I let myself be, get out of this, this box of like feeling like I was a prisoner and being able to show up for myself and not be afraid of these clear cognizant messages and clairvoyant visions and these, you know, messages that I was getting from spirit, I was able to start navigating them and listening to them and harnessing them. And I started working with angels and talking to angels and divinely receiving these messages. And so once I started working with her with like attuning with Reiki and honoring this,

I, you know, it took a while as my attipment, you know, there's several attunements. So I had, you know, Riki one. And then I worked really hard just to figure out how to harness that energy and practice working on people. And then once I got my level two attunement, I immediately started my practice. And it was the craziest thing because I had taken this leap of faith to do this professionally. But for personal reasons, I just, I believed in it so much. became so passionate about it and I like at the same time my job like my what needed me to come back because my I could only take you know so long off of my from my leave to my leave was expiring

and um they called and said you know well we have you to start you know in two weeks and I just remember being on the phone and saying I'm really grateful that you held my position for this long, but unfortunately, I've taken, you know, another route. And so I won't be coming back. And I remember hanging up the phone and I was, again, trauma response. Oh, my gosh. Hi, I just jumped off a cliff. What am I doing? I just left the most stable, secure thing that I have in my life. I'm taking this plunge. I'm starting this practice. I don't even know if my rent's going to get paid. Thankfully, my boyfriend was living with us at the time. But. Like, but I was like, oh my God, what am I going to do? I can't believe I just did this. But I knew in my heart that at that point, I didn't really care what people were wearing on their body. I cared more about what people were feeling inside their body.

And, you know, because I realized that that, you know, during my own journey was that all of our health issues stem from, emotional repressed trauma and um you know and that is what disregulates our nervous system and if our nervous system is not regulated if we're not harnessing our truth if we're not speaking into our truth or speaking into our hearts and feeling our emotions and just suppressing and um you know bottling shit down you know that's when dis ease sets in you know that's when we become disreasing regulated. And so we create the perfect opening for disease to come in. And so once I took that leap of faith, I remember within two weeks, I had a full practice. I was booked every single day. I mean, granted, it was friends. And I just was giving them all like a, you know, I was like, I don't even know.

they're just going to do this donation based. But my friend's donations were monumental when it came to doing sessions with me. They believed in me. They showed up. They drove me. Some of them drove from like counties away just to have sessions with me. And I was like, okay, like, you know, here we are, you know. I'm here for it.

But I remember just that moment in my heart just feeling like, this is right. Like it just, I got such a hell yes in my body that I knew in my heart that this was not coming from a place of like any place other than source. Like this was not me that was doing this work. This was the universe. This was my spirit guides. God, you know, whatever higher power is up there. angels that were just, you know, channeling through me. I'm like, I am not the water.

I am just nearly the faucet. And I am just being guided to help people wherever where I'm just being placed. I, into this day, I've just said, like, place me where I need to help people heal. Yeah. It's, I love so much of the way in which you describe it. Like the part that, like there's lots of parts that really ring to me, but the first part that really resonated with me is the idea that you're sick because you're not using your gifts. And when I look around at my life, because truly that's all I can speak to is my life. Sure.

You know, when you're not using your gifts, whether that's getting up and going and doing something that you're not proud of or living a life where you're not giving everything to it or there's no meaning in your life for some reason. like that's how you get sick because you're constantly lying to yourself and the body keeps the score the body knows that you're doing things that is wrong and it's hard for the body to do it and you're forcing this wrong it's like it's like trying to shove your foot in a shoe that's way too small for you every day like what are you doing put the right side get a cool pair of shoes and put that on you deserve it yeah yeah that's so thank you for that like yes and once you begin walking you're like These shoes are way more comfortable. I think I could go for a run.

I think I could jump in these things. You know, I feel so much more happier. And like, what is it, though? Like, in your opinion, Angie, like, do people have to get broken? Do you have to get sick before you make that change? Like, how do? Sometimes I think, like, you have to be broken in order to start making that change. And that kind of makes me sad.

But I don't know, is that true? Or are there ways to not do it or do it before you get broken? Or what do you think? Gosh, that is such a great, a great question. You know, sometimes I think the greater the fall, the greater the impact, right? Yes, that's well said. And at the same time, like, I believe that if people would be more open to hearing other other's stories, then maybe they could start looking into themselves sooner, you know,

and start addressing some of these, these deep wounds because we all carry them. I mean, you know, it's just some of us are more sensitive, I think, you know, like, like I feel that me growing up in this meta, in this metaphysical home and having you not have physical, I guess you could say, gifts made me a little more sensitive to energies. So the way that my body responded to trauma, maybe it was a little more heightened than let's just say someone else that could have been the same thing. And they didn't experience trauma the way that I did. So and that's actually something that I see in my practice is that people that I started working with, there, like there was a moment. where I was just working with high schoolers.

And a lot of them were like, I think I have trauma. I was like, you think you have trauma. I think you probably do. But they really wanted to learn how to access it. And I feel like this younger generation is starting to become more aware of their feelings and they're trying to really connect more to their emotions. Whereas I feel like there's just, you know, which is so, so happy to see that. but there's a lot of like older generations that I have seen like for myself,

you know, and like around my age, it's like we were just taught to suppress things, you know, to kind of like, and especially where I grew up, it was always about like, you know, tough love and like, fuck it up and, you know, chin up, you know, it stops crying. It didn't hurt that bad. And it's like, oh, okay. So I think that it's a very It just I think that yes I think unfortunately

We have to kind of go through our own trials and turbulences Before we get to that other side of owning who we are Because it's part of our journey You know, it's like we've and it's part of I think it's also like part of this inner like agreement right like i don't know if you like there's a couple books that i've read and from what i've studied that we've agreed to our journeys and how we my my mentor always taught me she said you know we are here achieving our dharma so what's your dharma how we get to our

Jarma is our karma. So whatever karma we have to burn to get to where we are meant to be is just part of our path so that we can have and carry that same empathy and compassion to help others do the same. So, you know, I would hope that we don't need to go through so much, you know, to heal, to get to where we need to be. But unfortunately, I feel that a lot of us agreed, our souls agreed. to it before we were born.

And so we're here, you know, to evolve and ascend. And this is, you know, how we get, you know, how we evolve and ascend is really up to us, really. You know, we could choose the hard way or we could choose the easy way. And oftentimes we don't know how to choose the easy way. Seems so much harder, right? Like, easy way to me, it felt so much harder. Like being just out and open and owning who I am.

was so hard as a teenager, and it's still kind of hard, you know, to this day, just owning who I am. And that's part of my journey. But, you know, tough, like, but stuffing it down made it so much more difficult. So, yeah. Yeah. I agree on so much. And like our friend Zach Flynn and Dr. New are bringing up all these great points about, you know, the way to live through, the way to live. the way to live your life is to face your,

your traumas and things like that. But you're right. Like what's easy? I want you to quote that said, in life, if you do what is hard, your life will be easy. And if you do what is easy, your life will be hard. I always kind of played with that at some level. Wow. Wow.

It's pretty crazy to think about, right? I know. Yeah, I just like filled my heart right now. Oh my gosh. Yeah. I love that. It's so true. It's got to get a bad way.

It's so hard. do that. Yeah, I know. Like, like, it seems so counterintuitive to be like, you know what, wake up and do what you love. But for me, for so long, I'm like, yeah, no one's going to pay me to do that. No one wants to, no one wants to hear me get up, be a podcast or make all kinds of months. Like, that's not going to work. And then like, you get to a point, you're like, why wouldn't it work? You mean this thing you get up and you go do something that you hate doing? Like, that doesn't work either. Why don't you try doing this thing you love? And the more than I look back on that like all the stories I was told this kid like all the mythologies that I love and all the

biographies that I read of people that were like you know you can whether you believe you can or whether you believe you can't either way you're right like I started looking back on my life and I'm like yes why don't I listen to all these things that have inspired me my whole life why don't I start doing these things like it's in every book that I found myself drawn to do the thing you love just do it and like you start going down that path and you're like maybe in the beginning you're like it's not going to work. But then all of a sudden, like, you should have seen these signs. Like, I look at the clock and it's always like 444, 22, 22, 33. That's my numbers. Those are my numbers.

Imagine that. 1111 and 333 and 555. Like, I don't really see like 2-2 or any others, but like 4-4-4. That's my, like, that's my special numbers. That's so awesome. Yes. Yes. It's fascinating, right? It's crazy to think the way the world will unfold in front of you, if you just take the time to believe in yourself and use your gifts. Like you have them. People have them. And maybe those of us who have had life ripped away from us when we were vulnerable.

Maybe we were more open to seeing a spiritual side. But I think that the spirits are there for everybody to embrace and begin learning about and begin learning a fuller life on someone. What do you think that's true? I completely agree with that. especially because, you know, so many of us are kind of living really empty lives. You know, we're just filling it with so much substance. Yes.

I mean, and these substances are like food, alcohol, distractions, even our phones, right? Like, we are so distracted from the simple things. that what makes us whole, which is, you know, our spirit, nature, you know, like, just, you know, good food, nutrition. I mean, like, good people. People nowadays are just carrying so much toxicity and toxic energy that it could be even painful just to, like, be around them. And then we're just so lost in our own stews because just the way of the world is that the way of the world right now is just leading everybody into an emotional and mental health crisis is right now. And, you know, I think that we are spending more time medicating and distracting ourselves from feeling anything and or just all we're doing is just emptying. ourselves more and more.

Instead of just listening to our spirits and, you know, filling our cups and filling our souls and giving us, giving our body, mind, and spirit what it truly needs to heal. Yeah. On some levels, I feel like, on some level, I feel like the, on some level, I feel like the, the curtain is being slowly opened up. You know, like the light's kind of coming in. You know, like when you first wake up, you're like, oh, it's so bright, I can't see. Yes. All of a sudden, your eyes begin to adjust.

And you're like, oh, my God, I have been sick for so long. Oh, my God. No wonder that person's like that. You know what happened to them? And no wonder they're horrible to be around because they hate themselves. Oh, my God. I'm too bad for them now. I used to not want to be around them.

And now I get it. Like, I see their trauma. And oh, my God. Look at their mom. Their mom has that same problem. Yes. Oh, my God. Trauma.

Right. I was just going to say. ancestral trauma and the lineage of and I see it even with my clients and my practice it's like I'll have a client that comes to me I know nothing about their family and then I'll you know pick this up and then we'll they'll say oh can you work on on my mom and then I'll like their mom will come in and I realize that the trauma that I just cleared from them the same the mom was carrying that And I said, did you feel that when you were carrying your, you know, your daughter or your son? So, yeah, I've carried that my entire life.

And I was like, well, do you realize that I just cleared that same trauma from them? And they had no idea why they were so afraid of this particular thing. And I, you know, then I started looking at my own. I mean, every time I like that comes up, then I start looking at myself. And just because I've been going through a little, some of the. other health issues with Lyme disease, I've had to take a break from Los Angeles and I moved to Pennsylvania temporarily to be with my mom. And I'm seeing now, again, like, I'll be feeling something and then she'll say something out of the blue. And I'm like, oh my gosh. Like, I don't even know you

thought those things. Like, I've been feeling these things. And this is why I feel this way. it, yeah, it's just wild. How we are so connected to our own family's trauma, and we don't even have to know what trauma that that is. It's kind of like, it really makes, like, it's mind-boggling. Because, again, it's like we're all energetically tied. You know, we all have these energetic cords within us that connects us to people, to our relationships, to our family.

And, you know, and it's interesting, and it's wild, too, because I, you know, I mean, I only had my dad until I was nine, but my mom says all the time, you know, like, sometimes they'll tell me like, you know, you're just like your dad was. And it's like, well, I didn't even know my dad. So clearly, our genetics play a huge tie in our trauma. Yeah. You know, like, I've been speaking with so many storytellers and just doing all these different, I've had this really cool awakening. in my world where I've begun to facilitate these cool conversations and I've been getting to read all these different books. And I started looking back on my family and all these people, all these incredible people that I'm speaking with. And I start to realize how many similarity.

Like the words are different, but the story's the same. And it like, it hit me like, it's all of our stories, all this trauma. And that's how you bond with people. Like this thing we call suffering is the tapestry with which we've covered ourselves and it's it belongs to all of us. And when you as an individual begin to realize and face this, this trauma in your life, you're helping to entangle the knot in the tapestry and be like, hey, and you could see it in other people like, oh my God, that person is going through what I. And so were they. And pretty soon you realize we're just one giant organism.

We've been fighting ourselves for so long that we don't know which way is up, but that unravel or maybe it's not so much of an unraveling as it is a weaving together up like all it's all of our stories yeah death family members being ripped away dis-eased doing something you hate hey welcome to the tribe stop you know welcome come over here we give you a hug i'm sorry guess what happened that that happened to me too like and i think we're seeing that right like that's the beginning of a healing and the triumph over trauma and this this idea of heal that we've been talking about yeah you think so? Absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, I mean, community is everything when you're trying to heal from trauma. And when, you know, I was in my early 20s, I was, I think, subconsciously searching

for that and trying to find that community. And I mean, I feel like I can, I'm safe to say this on this podcast, but, you know, I turn to raising. Yeah, nice. Like, I was a big Rafer Girl and I had my Raid family and my trans family. But I look back on those days and, you know, I did a lot of psychedelics. Awesome. And but I didn't do them the right way, but maybe for that moment they were the right thing. Guararar.

Because it brought me this sense of community because we were all on the same level of all of us were going through like through something, you know, that we all had been through something. you know, that we all had been through something and that connection, that family, that, that bond that we shared that actually made me feel whole. And I think that was like, would have been like really the first time that I actually felt somewhat healed was when I was doing the MDMA in that community and, and in that, you know that vortex that I was in I mean I could have been better at it and healthier at it and made better decisions overall in that situation and then some of those situations sure but at the end of the day the community that I that I have and that I had and I still actually even though

I don't I don't rave anymore but those those people are still very much bonded to me and are still very dear friends of me of mine and when I was sick they were still there for me. So they weren't just like, oh, the party friends that just showed up, you know, they were the friends that were there for me, you know, and they're still, I'm still very good friends with them. You know, they're still like my family. And so, yeah, I believe that this community of healing and these trauma bonds are real, you know, and we're just going. We all have to go through that process and we all have different ways of going through that process, especially at different ages and stages in our lives. Yeah, I think that gets back to what you said already in

the conversation about like, you have to do your own work. You can have all the tools. You can have the right mindset. You can have everything. But doing your own work is hard. There's a lot of tears. There's a lot of pain. There's a lot of, you know, blaming. There's a lot of like self-doubt, you know, but only through that process. It's like alchemy. When I think about to the It's like turning lead into gold. Like that's what you're doing with your body and your life. And maybe that's, maybe that's what this process is.

Maybe your first 40 years are lead, you know, or your first 30. And you're like, okay, how do I transfer? I've heard the stories. I've seen people do it. How do I do it? And then you begin your own alchemy, your self alchemy and like, oh my God, I'm changing. I can see myself changing. My relationships are changing.

People are looking at me different. It's happening. Yes. Yes. Yes, yes. I mean, and part of that, I went through like imposter syndrome for a while there because I'm like, oh my gosh. Like people are seeing me in a different light, but I'm also showing my showing up for myself in a different light. But I don't recognize this version of myself and I hope I like her. Who is this person? I hope she's cool. I hope she's cool as the girl that was in her 20s and my friends are like, I think actually she's cooler.

She's a little more, a little more, she knows who she is a little more than she did when she was her 20. So I hope that she's cooler. I think she's much better. Yeah, well, let's talk about that for a minute. Like part of letting go is watching the change that happens inside of you. And it does feel like death. I know that like, I know on some level, I was talking to my friend Emil and he's like, I don't like the death metaphor, George.

I'm like, I can't think of a better way to describe. I mean, he says maybe it's an energy exchange or something like that, but I always use this idea of like letting go of the person you used to be so that you can become the person you're supposed to be. You know, but it's difficult to see part of you float away and be like, but I like that part of me. You know, like you see, you can physically feel this part of you drifting off or maybe it's like you're looking back on yourself.

But it's a weird position to be in, right? Like, is this person still going to be cool? Is it still going to be me? Like, maybe you could talk more about that. Like, what is that? Yeah, you know, that's such a, this is such one of my favorite topics, actually. I love this topic because I call it the dark night of the soul. I love it.

John of the Cross. Yeah. I mean, I know, like, I mean, I didn't make it up or anything like that, but it's a common phrase. But this dark night of the soul, it is the most painful process. Or, you know, there's also that they call the butterfly effect where you kind of go into this. this cocoon phase and you're just brought into this deep cocoon and we know that that caterpillar that turns into the butterfly is going through a very very painful process right so this dark night of the soul where we're just or this death this rebirth is just it's like we're in this state of

nothingness. You know, it's like we're not here. We're not there. We're in this cocoon. We're in this middle part of nothingness where it feels like nothing is happening because all we can feel is the pain, the pain and the agony and the loneliness. I mean, I experienced loneliness. I don't know if everyone else does, but there's, you know, there's even these moments

when I was going through. So like, you know, when I was going. through my Lyme treatments and my Lyme disease journey, I wanted to die. I mean, I didn't even feel like that when I was going through cancer, but when I got, when I got ill with Lyme, I just remember thinking myself, like, I just wanted to die. Like, that's, that's just, this is too difficult. And I feel that, that, you know, thank, thank God I had my spirit and all the tools that I had to get me through it, but that death was so painful. And that transformation was, but like, thankfully I had my clients who were checking in

on me and my friends that were checking in on me that constantly, my family, that constantly reminded me every single day that I was going through this to help other people heal. And I'm not kidding, that's what really for me is, I couldn't do it for myself. you know and sometimes healing can be so difficult that and I feel like that's why there's a lot of suicides because it's just too difficult it's too painful to face these demons because as we all know like disse is not just a physical journey it's it's an emotional and a you know it takes us to the depths of our soul that we didn't even know existed within our within our beings and we really have to dive deep and and go through this. And it's not easy. And so for me, every day, I just woke up saying

I had a my mantra was I turned my pain into purpose, turning my pain into purpose. I don't know what that purpose is yet. I mean, I knew what it was because I was already in my practice and doing what I needed to do to help others because I was still, you know, I wasn't working much, but I'm still seeing clients during the process. But if it wasn't for that, I don't think I would have been able to make it because, like I said, I just, there are times when you just get so,

when that Dark Night of the Soul rolls in and that death comes in, it's like, it is the most horrific thing. And I'm just so, so thankful that at the same time that I went through it. It's like, During that time, I was like, oh, my God, I can't do it every day. I'm going to die.

I hate this. Oh, my gosh. And then when I came out of it and I've been coming out of it and I've been looking back and I'm just like, that sucked. But that was beautiful. Yeah. My whole journey has just been so beautiful. It's a true gift, truly a true gift. Yeah.

I do. I think it's I think it's super important to to underscore that the dark night of the soul and the feeling of loneliness and the feeling of despair. I think it speaks to what We Free is saying. Like on some level, we've been conditioned our whole life to see the world with blinders on. And he brings up a good point about media and school and conditioning. And, you know, we teach our children, at least in the Western world, we've taught our children to sit in a classroom in front of an authority. figure and that you shouldn't speak up to them and you have to have these bells and whistles the condition you like a Pavlovian dog and you you sometimes the smartest kid in the room is scolded for speaking out because something doesn't make sense and these are all ways we're conditioned

and this all leads to this moment later in life when you have this awakening where you're like it's all wrong like if you don't face that like like I know what he's talking about both parents going to work and make it I get it like I did it for you. for so long because I was afraid to look at the alternative, like this idea that like, yeah, that is all wrong. But the question we freeze is this, what are you going to do about it? You're going to keep getting up and going to work and doing this thing? And I get it.

What about the mortgage payment? What about your kids? What about your family? How are you going to feed them? You know, like that level of stress that gets upon you. If you stopped going down the wrong road, you're going to lose. Like, I get it. But the truth is if you keep going down that road, you lose.

You have to stop doing all. All those things. Both parents work and not make enough. Stop. Just quit. Knock it off. Find another way to do it because you know where that road lead. That road leads to a town called nowhere. Constant despair and never living a life worth living. And that gets us back to what I think the dark night of the soul is, is finally understanding what's meaningful to you and doing something about it. Like that dark night is necessary because that's the soul awakening to the idea of give me meaning. I can't do it anymore. If we do this, we're dying. It's the world telling you you're dying. Do something. Use your gifts. Help people. And that's a good way to do it too, is starting to help other people or starting to look at other people like seeing their despair.

That's a window into your despair. The things you recognize in other people, that's a sign of what's wrong with you. I hate that person because they're super arrogant. That's me that's arrogant. That's the world. Yes. Me. Right.

We're all mirrors of each other. We're all mirrors. And the things that we don't like and other people are often the things that we don't like within ourselves. And vice versa. The things we love about other people are the things that we love within ourselves. And I truly believe that we're all reflections. And we have to, as much as we don't like to look at the bad parts of ourselves, and I hate to break it to you all, but we're not perfect.

and we all have some things within ourselves that, you know, could be looked at a little bit better. And that's okay. I think people take it really offensively when you call them, you know, when they're called out or, you know, like when you bring that up, that, you know, you need to break it to you, but you have some things that you need to look at. Not many people want to look at it because it doesn't feel good.

And, I mean, yeah, no one likes to do that, but it's the work that we have to do to be better than we were the day before. and better for the people around us within our, you know, within our circles. Yeah. And it's, it's interesting.

Sometimes you have to be broken. Like I think maybe this gets back to the idea of, of having to break so that you can be reborn is that it's so hard to look at. You know, I want you to quote that said, there's two way people change. One is to inspiration and the second is due desperation. And it's when you're,

it's when you're desperate that you're like, okay, I don't change, I lose everything. It's nice to be inspired and it's nice to think that you could read something and act on it. But most people, myself included, have to go through despair sometimes in order to truly understand. You don't know what you have to. You lose it. And by that time, it's gone.

But hopefully you won't lose the next one. But it's those forces, those two dogs that are fighting inside of you, right? Gosh, gosh, that's so interesting that you bring that up because. And that was the start of my Lyme disease journey. Let's hear about it. It was basically, it was that. So I'm not sure if you're familiar with Reiki, but the way that Reiki, like with the attunments is that there are three different attunements. You have your level one, level two, and then you have your master and your master teacher.

And before I became a master and a master teacher, I had my practice for, I think four or five years. and I then my ranking master was ready to, you know, I wanted to do it right. I was like, if I'm going to become a master, I'm going to wait until I actually feel ready. Because a lot of practitioners out there, and I talk about this actually in Rand's book, is that they want to rush their attunments, their certifications. And it's like, do you feel really ready to be a master or a master teacher after only being in practice for six months? or, you know, three months or whatever. So I really wanted to own my practice for a while before I even stated that I was a master.

And not that we are ever, you know, this journey of life is self-mastery, but before I became, but before I got my certification on paper, I guess you could say. So I ended up getting that done. and I haven't getting that certification, taking that, those courses to become a master and a master teacher, I, like a week later, I had to have just a major surgery because after breast, after I had gotten my breast implants from having a mastectomy from having breast cancer, those whole five years, I was having a lot of weird pain in my left shoulder in this area. and I mean, now that I know what I know, I should have never gotten implants because of the black box warning.

That's a whole other story. But I started having all these, like, this weird pain, and it took them five years to figure out that my subclavian artery and my brachial plexus nerve was being compressed between my cervical rib and my clavicle. So I, you know, like, so I had finally gotten that diagnosis of a thoracic outlet syndrome. And so I thought, okay, great, I'm just going to go in. I'm going to get this rib removed. You know, I can go back to my Reiki practice and go back to my life. And to be honest, like, I was also living in a water damaged home that we didn't really understand. Or like, I didn't, I didn't understand like there was actually major.

issues with that. I didn't think I was getting sick. And then, you know, but like my relationship was also quite stressful and traumatic. And so I had this surgery and they, they accidentally like punctured my lung during the surgery, but they didn't know that they punctured my lung. So I was in the hospital. My lung collapsed. I almost died on the operating table because I only had so many more minutes before my heart went into cardiac arrest while I was on the operating table.

And so they had to keep me under anesthesia for a very long time so that it didn't keep my heart stabilized. But we didn't realize until the next day after the surgery that my lung had fully collapsed. So I had maybe like 15 minutes or 30 minutes to live and they were rushing me up to the ICU and giving me a chest tube. And I was in the hospital for 10 days. And after that, I got home, you know, back to my, I was living with my boyfriend at the time. And I couldn't stand up longer than a minute without passing out. I couldn't walk. And it got worse and worse and worse.

It was very, very scary. And this was in April of 2019. I started having all of the symptoms that I had worked so hard at putting into remission, like all the allergy stuff, all of the things that I had dealt with post-cancer were all coming back into play. And the worst part was that my Reiki master moved. back to Brazil and she was just diagnosed with leukemia. And I'm like, okay. And I'll never forget this.

And then she sent me this message and she said, Angela, when the student is ready, the teacher appears. But when the master is ready, the teacher disappears. Wow. Wow. I never heard that before. And I just like, I just remember being on the phone with her and I'm just like, I'm not a message.

She goes, well, you got the certification on paper. It's now your turn to complete this mastery. And like with this, whatever. We didn't know what it was, what was going on. She's like, it's time for you to become your own self-master. And I'm like, I don't even know. Like this is like another level. Every tool in my toolbox was gone.

I'm like, I'm owning my gifts. I'm speaking my truth. And I'm doing all of the right things. I'm eating the best diet. Like, I can't even stand up. And it's all this, you know, and I'm thinking it's this mechanical error. It's mechanical error. But, like, in my heart, like, I knew that this was leading me down.

I knew something. It was leading, like, it was leading me down to this path. Because after that, like, shortly, I started getting diagnosed with every neurological condition under the sun. my relationship with my boyfriend was falling apart um my i couldn't work i could barely work at this time because i couldn't stand up um i couldn't eat i was reacting negatively to everything like i here i was plant-based you know paleo plant-based low histamine diet like doing all of these things thinking I'm like I'm not getting well like and I just keep getting worse and worse and

worse and ultimately it led me home because my boyfriend and I we broke up he you know he broke up me it was we just we were just in two different places clearly within our lives um he wasn't going he was going through a negative space um with himself and I was We were both kind of like we either have to jump ship because if we stay in this boat, we're going to sink. So I ended up, you know, renting out. I had also additionally, in living with him, I had an apartment that I was renting out. So I had to find another tenant to rent out my apartment. And I went back to Pennsylvania.

Like in my heart, I also knew that there was a reason why. I was not getting any answers anymore in California. And so I came home because my mom was having a knee replacement surgery. And I offered to be there to help her, even though I was so sick at this time. I didn't even know how I was going to help her when I couldn't even help myself. But I had an old neighbor check in on me to see how, you know,

if I made it home or not. and I happened to be going into another anaphylactic reaction from a meal that I had cooked. And he started talking to me about Lyme disease and getting checked for it. And I said to him, I'm like, how does that even possible? I've lived in California for the last 18 years at that time. So at the time I was 30, you know, it was 35, 36. And he's like, yeah, but you were born here. And he's like, it doesn't, he goes, and you just, you know, we're in a traumatic relationship.

You just had a very traumatic surgery. Lyme is an opportunistic infection. And if you were living in mold, that activates it. Your immune system was low. It created a perfect storm. It definitely could have reactivated or just activated. And he's like, and it's killing your nervous system. And so I, you know, after a long month of fighting, I finally went.

and found out that, yes, I actually had Lyme disease and co-infections, Babesia, Bartonella, mold toxicity. I got my answers. But then what I found out during that process was I actually had it my whole life. My whole life. That was what was causing all of my mysterious health issues from childhood. And then that was actually the breast cancer was the symptom of Lyme disease. And it all made sense.

I'm like, I had to go to the root cause. The root emotional, spiritual cause of my Lyme disease was in my roots, Pennsylvania. So I'm living in the house that I experienced all of my trauma from the get-go, from the early on. And so as I've been healing myself through this journey of Lyme using all of my alternative therapies that I've been, you know, doing within my practice. I have been working on the generational ancestral trauma with my mom and spiritually with my dad, you know, because I truly believe, you know,

as I always say, you know, we have to get to the root. And that's not just a physical disease. It's a spiritual, you know, disease. So here I am, you know, healing myself, literally my mind, body, and spirit by, being here and, you know, really healing that generational trauma, which is helping my, you know, get through this, you know, this infection, this disease. And, you know, I'm really grateful to share that I, you know, I'm not showing positive for any types of infections in my body

anymore. I still have the inflammation that the body is still holding. It's like the lime is the fire, so the fire is out. So now I'm just healing the damage that the fire caused right now. But, but it's just been such a deep, dark journey of having to be here after, you know, 18, like now it's been, you know, I've been out in LA like 20 years, but to be here healing from this and going through these multiple dark nights of the soul and the trauma and reliving it, like, it's, it's been one of the deepest, darkest journeys. And ironically, you know, all my friends that was that I grew up with, like, they're, they're still here, but they have families and they got marriages and they have kids. So as a kid, I never really faced my trauma. I, I ran from it. You know, my trauma release was

calling up friends and being like, oh, let's have a sleepover. Let's go out. Let's go do this. you know, so I never really sat with it. And so now all my friends, they're busy. You know, they got their own lives. So the only person I really have is my mother. And that, you know, is the relationship that I'm healing right now the most is me and my mom and the trauma that we went through together losing, you know, my father, but also the trauma that I went through with her when she was going through her own healing process.

because I didn't really have her back then, but now we have each other now, and we are, you know, healing a lot of our, of our ancestral and our, you know, that energetic tie because, like, had I not maybe got Lyme, like maybe we wouldn't have had this opportunity

to heal this wound, this deep wound that we've had when we've been carrying for quite some time. Yeah. That's, it's amazing to think, think if you look at it on a larger, if you zoom out on the X axis or if you look out on a longer timeline, sometimes we're called back home because the events that are about to unfold in our life are imaginable but scary to think about. You know, I always think about when I'm being

called somewhere like, hey, I might have to do this and like, hmm, okay, what does that mean? What if I feel like every ounce of me is pointing back to this place where I came from? And like, I've been not heating that call. And then you start losing things. Like, listen, the world's trying to tell you something. And you can wait and put it off or you can listen to it and start reacting to it. And I found that if you put it off, it just, it calls to you until you answer. And that call gets louder and violent and crazy.

So if you can listen to the voices, the ain't, however it is, you want to describe the being, the world, nature, God, however you want to describe what's talking to you, listen to it, because it's meaningful and your life will be more meaningful. Which brings me to another point. And maybe isn't it interesting that sometimes the people we lose, our relationship deepens with them even though they're no longer here with us. I'm wondering if you can maybe speak to that for me. I got to shut off my camera for one minute.

So carry the conversation for a minute while I fix this thing. Maybe you could speak to that for a moment. Oh my gosh. I love these questions that you're asking me because like these are questions that I just love to talk about. So absolutely when I truly believe that when our our loved ones cross over, we are still like you said, we're very connected to them. And I went through a very rough period when I lost my father, how. like, you know, I think I went through every emotion that you could think of towards him. I was angry at him, but I loved him. I hated him, but I felt like I still needed him, and I didn't really know how to access him. And I feel like a lot of people might relate to that when they lose people that they really love, especially when it happened so unexpectedly and you don't get to have that,

that spiritual, emotional or physical closure with them. But something that I have really, like, learned to do during my, my illnesses was to start connecting to my dad. And, you know, even if you don't have, like, a loved one that you crossed over, that has, like, crossed over, you can still learn how do you connect with, with angels, and, you know, your spirit guides. But there is a special bond. You know, I'm going to speak about him because there is a special bond that I have with him now

that I didn't really have before. And I feel like now when I speak to him or communicate with him, like he shows up in ways that makes me know that it's him. And I know that he has shown up for me in ways, but before. And if I look back on those ways before, I could see it now, but at first I didn't. But there are so many things that you can, like, for example, like numbers. My dad's numbers for me are 555. Like, so whenever I see 555, I know it's him saying hi.

there are certain things that I can like I'll dream about him and we'll have some really nice talks or even sometimes just because I do I have developed a lot of like my Claire audience gifts so I can hear him now so if I need to speak to him about something and I'll just sit down and say okay I'm open to receiving your message is dad just this is my issue like this is what I need to like I need your support in this I need you to help me and like having just knowing that he does hear me and sometimes it takes them a minute to get back to me because they're busy over there um I've learned that if I really need him I have to make an appointment um but the relationship has healed tremendously and he just because he might be gone physically and I you know I've lost other loved ones since then but they all show up and I tell you when I did feel that loneliness and the loneliness wasn't like no it wasn't like nobody checked on me or nobody talked to me it's that loneliness of like I'm

going through something major right now and I don't know what's going on with my body my body feels like it's been, you know, kidnapped. It's kind of like I don't even know. You don't even know how to explain your symptoms when you have Lyme because it's not your typical sickness feelings. And you look fine the whole time. So like it was hard for me to look at myself in the mirror. And some days I would look really sick.

But some days I'd be like, well, I look okay. Why do I? Why do I feel so terrible? why can't I stand up longer than five minutes? Why can I, you know, why, why, why, why, why, why, why? And sometimes I would experience like 15 different symptoms within a matter of minutes. And that's where that loneliness comes from is just having these painful experiences, not being able to explain them because you've never felt them before.

And it's really hard to describe unless you've, gone through Lyme. But to feel like it's also taken away every bit of joy in your life that having those loved ones that passed over really, like, that was the only thing I could really truly feel is that their heavy presence and their energy that would comfort me. And that's why we think that we, if we could just all tap into that other realm, we'd realize that we're really never alone. And that energy from, you know, whether it's nature, your angels, the divine,

whether it's, you know, past loved ones, it's truly there. It's just that we have to kind of take a step back and just sit with it. and allow it to embrace us. That is, it's really well said. I think it's Carl Young who said that there's things in your life that you can't learn

that can only develop inside of you. Oh, gosh, you are hitting it with the quotes today. Oh, that was breathtaking. That was so good. Yeah, it's like I think we're, you know, we probably live through some, and so too is for everybody listening. whether you're Zach or you're WeFree or your doctor new,

like so many people that are magnetized and pulled towards us or because they've been through the same things. But this idea that some things can't be learned, they can only be developed inside of you. And for me, that was like learning to sit with the uncomfortableness of loss, pain, you know, self-awareness, self-love, self-respect, the self, like sitting with all these negative.

of traumas is like it's really hard to do but it's the only way to thoroughly understand the quote this two shall pass you must first sit with it right like and it's hard like I don't want to think about this right now and I was having a conversation with my wife you said about some tough things and it's you know we just sat there and she's like look George you just got to sit with it I'm like gosh he's so right all the time and you do you just sit down with it and hold it and embrace it and be like yes that is true that is horrible George And you did it. And how you feel?

What's the point of that? Don't do it anymore. But all those uncomfortable thoughts, if you push them away, they cause blockages. They cause pain. They cause interruption. Just sit with them and hold them. Be like, yes. Damn it.

Yep. I did that. I'm sorry for that. And then pretty soon, it's like the bully that's poking you. Like so are those thoughts. So are those keep poking you until you just sit with them. And then they'll get bored and then they'll leave you. You know what I mean?

But you have to learn to sit with that pain. It's hard. Yes. Oh, my gosh. It's so funny. I just saw a quote today. I actually just posted it on my Instagram was it was by Rumi. And it was like.

And he said, a cure to the pain is sitting in the pain. Yeah. And I mean, I was just like, I have to post this because this is just, it's everything. I should really like, we have to sit in it. I like something I tell my clients they say like sit in your squat because squats are painful to me when you feel like you need to that you want to do something based on a past behavior or based on a trauma response or you know just something that's like a quick fix that's you think is going to to help you like I want you to sit in your squat like sit in there build that spiritual muscle build build that spiritual strength that you no longer have to access those thoughts or those behaviors, that your behavior is just sitting with yourself in that pain so that you can rise above it the next

time that that pain gets triggered within you. Yeah. It's becoming aware. Self awareness is such a huge, right? It's huge. Huge. Huge. Reparenting ourselves.

Huge. inner child work huge because you know we are so many of us just walking around asleep and not aware not aware of their energy not aware of their their power not aware of what they like what they are and like it's just yeah um we don't there's so many people that just like to just project their stuff like parasites all over other people. It's just, oh, yes, I'm like self-awareness. Own your truth. Own your shit.

Sit in it. Be with it. Let it go. Yeah. What do you think are some of the real big takeaways? I mean, we've covered a lot, but is there something that you could leave the people with that without giving away too much of what we've written in the book that maybe you could leave people with, that you've learned from your traumas, that is something they could begin thinking

about today that may help them on their journey. Oh my gosh. So much. Let me give me a second to you. Yeah. Well, we've covered quite a bit of it. Yeah. We try to dance around.

I don't want to give away too much of what the book is. And I think we did a good job at dancing around it because there's still so much to talk about. But you've got a unique journey. You know, is there like, and a unique way of looking at it, a unique way of fighting it, a unique way of using your gifts to make a better way for yourself and it's set example for people. What else could you leave people with? Yeah. It sounds, this is what's coming to me right now.

And it's something like, it's another quote that I lived by. And it's a simple quote is, do it afraid. And I say, and it's so simple, just like, do it afraid. Do it. It's scary. It's, but what you need is to get oversight on the other side.

When we get out of our own way, when we get over the fear, we have nothing but love and light. And I hate using that. I know that sounds so like, you know, love and light, but really, we only carry two vibrations. love and light love and fear and when we are going through fear we carry this lower vibration

and when we carry love our vibration is higher and by vibration is higher dis-dise can't set and so if i can give any advice is you know regular your nervous system, be open to healing and be open to looking at the dark things that may scare you. Start there first. Start with the darkness. It'll lead you to the light, but we can't get to the light if we don't face our darkness. And also make sure that you are, really like allow yourself to be vulnerable. I think vulnerability is also another key thing that comes with healing. And, you know, even make sure that your diet's right because,

and that's a whole other topic I can talk about, you know, just with, you know, being a carnivore, you know, I eat meat. You know, I'm a carnivore. I only, you know, meat, salt and water. And I love it. I do it because it's helped my body heal in tremendous ways. But it's amazing that I get a lot of crap for it in the spiritual community because everybody's so pro-plant-based. So the other big thing was like, don't be afraid to take a chance to question the norm because this journey is all about you finding your spirit.

it even if it scares the shit out of you and like things that wouldn't be that even if things aren't accepted like question it question everything question everything you've been taught question you know what what's the science says because honestly there's no scientific study when it comes to knowing yourself other than truly diving in and learning who you are and having this and not being afraid and letting go and surrendering everything you have to your healing experience. That's going to help you thrive rather than just survive. I love it.

I love it. I don't think I can add anything to that. It's wonderful. Well said. Ladies and gentlemen, go down to the show notes. check out Angela. Be ready for the new book, Heal that's coming out. You're probably going to hear a lot about it.

There's a lot of people involved in it, and everyone that is involved seems to have a unique journey where they found a different modality to heal themselves. Shout out to Dr. Randall Hansen for putting it all together. I'm super thankful for everybody participating in this, and I hope everybody that got to listen today is able to find something to take away. I'm super stoked to have everybody here. and thank you so much.

Go down to the show notes. Check everything out. And I will be back next week and go check out all the links, everybody. That's all we got for today. Aloha. Aloha. Thank you so much, George.