TrueLife - Rev. Dr. Jessica Rochester D.DIV. - The Circle of Wholeness

Episode Date: February 7, 2024

One on One Video Call W/George https://tidycal.com/georgepmonty/60-minute-meetingSupport the show:https://www.paypal.me/Truelifepodcast?locale.x=en_US🚨🚨Curious about the future of psychedelics? Imagine if Alan Watts started a secret society with Ram Dass and Hunter S. Thompson… now open the door. Use Promocode TRUELIFE for Get 25% off monthly or 30% off the annual plan For the first yearhttps://www.district216.com/https://www.revdrjessicarochester.com/Rev. Dr. Jessica Rochester is the Madrinha and President of Céu do Montréal, a Santo Daime (Ayahuasca) Church she founded in 1997 in Montréal, Canada.She is a transpersonal counselor, she trained in the work of Dr. Roberto Assagioli and trained with Dr. Stanislav Grof.She worked with Health Canada from 2000 until 2017 to achieve an Section 56 Exemption to import and serve the Santo DaimeSacrament (Ayahuasca).She is an ordained Interfaith Minister with a Doctorate in Divinity.From 1986 to 2018 she has been a workshop leader, teacher, and in private practice.She is the author of Ayahuasca Awakening A Guide to Self-Discovery, Self-Mastery and Self-Care, Volume One and Two.She continues to lecture on consciousness, non-ordinary states of consciousness, self-discovery, spiritual development, health and well-being and personal transformation One on One Video call W/George https://tidycal.com/georgepmonty/60-minute-meetingSupport the show:https://www.paypal.me/Truelifepodcast?locale.x=en_USCheck out our YouTube:https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPzfOaFtA1hF8UhnuvOQnTgKcIYPI9Ni9&si=Jgg9ATGwzhzdmjkg

Darkness struck, a gut-punched theft, Sun ripped away, her health bereft. I roar at the void. This ain't just fate, a cosmic scam I spit my hate. The games rigged tight, shadows deal, blood on their hands, I'll never kneel. Yet in the rage, a crack ignites, occulted sparks cut through the nights. The scars my key, hermetic and stark. To see, to rise, I hunt in the dark, fumbling, fear. Fearist through ruins maze, lights my war cry, born from the blaze.

The poem is Angels with Rifles. The track, I Am Sorrow, I Am Lust by Codex Serafini. Check out the entire song at the end of the cast. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the True Live podcast. I hope everybody's having a beautiful day. I hope the sun is shining and the birds are singing and the wind is at your back. We are back with our incredible series with the one and only Reverend Dr. Jessica Rochester. I'm trying to fix my pronunciation here.

She is the Madrina and president of the Sioux de Montreal, a Santo Dime, Iowasca church she founded in 1997 in Montreal, Canada. She's a trans-personal counselor. She trained in the work of Dr. Roberto Wasagioly and trained with Dr. Stanislav Graf. She worked with Health Canada from 2000 until 2017 to achieve a Section 56 exemption to import and serve the Santo Diamy Sacrament. She's an ordained interfaith minister with a doctorate in divinity. From 1986 to 2018, she has been a workshop leader, teacher, and in private practice. She is the author of Ayahuasca Awakening, a guide to self-discovery, self-mastery and self-care, Volume 1 and 2. She continues to lecture on consciousness, non-ordinary states of consciousness, self-discussed.

spiritual development, health and well-being, and personal transformation. It is her mission to inspire and empower those who seek the adventure of self-discovery, those who hope to awaken consciousness, to rediscover authenticity, to find meaning in everyday life and cultivate deep connections with oneself, with others, and with nature. Reverend Dr. Jessica, thank you so much for being here today. Would you be so kind as to maybe give us a little recap, a little recap? Yeah. Okay. So it's been a joy always being a guest on your wonderful show. Thank you. You're a great host and it's always fun to be with you. And we have been on a journey.

And the journey's just simply been an unfolding one as we've been following kind of the themes that I wrote about. I took, when I published these books, it was the kind of culmination of my life's journey. And with what I learned that I felt was really pertinent in the work that I was doing that I wanted to share with everybody who's interested. And so we've been working our way through the stories and the principles, and we've made our way into what I call the circle of wholeness. and what I can do is I can hold it up. You can tell me when you can see it well. Right there, perfect. Right there, perfect?

Yes. Circle of Homeless. Okay, and this is a little kind of teaching tool that I developed decades and decades ago. I can't even remember when. It's just, you know, Spirit shows me things, and I kind of sketch them out, and I would share them with clients and with students.

And for years, I taught a class called nourishing wisdom. And it was all about our relationship with ourselves, our bodies, our physical body, and how that mirrored our relationship with everything in the rest of our world. And if we aren't in right relationship with ourselves and our bodies, then we can't be in right relationship with nature, with community, with other people, It just doesn't work. And so this little diagram has always been really helpful for people to understand, oh, all of these things play a role in my life and how am I doing?

Or some of them not happening at all? Or is there too much in one area of my life? How do I bring it back into balance? And so in our last session together, we started talking about our relationship of nature and how important that is and how we are nature. You know, we have this illusion in modern. in culture, that we are, there's us and then there's nature. Okay.

And this is somehow separate. This is, you know, and however this got into our thinking processes that we are separate from nature, it has done a lot of damage. Okay. It simply has, you know, and us being told by some, mainly the patriarchal religions, that kind of, instead of learning that we're the guardians, of the earth. In other words, we take care of it

the way we would raise children or take care of our animal companions and our garden that we're kind of in charge of it. And so this completely different attitude happened and emerged instead of seeing I'm one with nature

and me taking care of nature is essential because nature takes care of me. Okay? But the further we disconnect, from, then we don't realize that we pollute the air. Hello. Hello. Every, you know, every lung full of air that we take in

is a result of what nature's doing and what we've added. Somebody sent me something the other day that says each year we breathe in the equivalent of plastics, plastics, micro nanoplastics, the size of a credit card. That's pretty scary. So when we see, so this is the first thing that we need to put into places is what we talked about last time is we are one with everything. And when we bring that illusion, what Einstein called the illusion of separateness, we're not separate. You need, the trees, the stars, we're all connected.

the earth, the deserts, the trees, the waters, the rivers, the oceans, everything was connected. Each time we breathe, each time we open our eyes, each time we eat food, each time we drink water. Everything is there. Everything is there. So we're going to stay look at our environment. And the last time we talked about the human body and how totally, how totally, neglectful or indulgent we've become with our bodies. We're busy indulging it.

We're a little snacky sugar, sugar, sugar, sugar. Okay, this will guzzle some soft drinks, make up a cigarette. You know, we have all these habits that are just, so are you laughing at me, you're with me. I'm not with you. I know, I see it all the time. I mean, I've done it.

We've all done it. Yeah, everybody's been unconscious, and then there comes a moment where we have to wake up, wake up, you know. And so we've been doing things to our bodies because even, never mind the separateness that we feel, this illusion that we are separate from nature, we have developed as a large part of our cultural kind of way of being, the fact that our mind is separate from our body and it's in charge. Well, you know, that leads down the same path as we're separate to nature. No.

Our mind is not separate from my body. It's not like a glass filled with apple juice. Okay, there's the glass of there's the apple juice. We can't see that because our energy body permeates if we sell our body. And so if we see our mind as being who we are and if we see that our body is just something that accommodates our mind. instead of seeing that we have this wholeness, this complete wholeness. Okay. So let's look at the elements of our environment. Well, let's start with the most essential.

The air we breathe. How many people breathe properly? Not that many. You know, there's the panters and the breath holders. You know, and breath holding is, and maybe this is infinitely more female than it is male, the breath holding thing, is we learn that when we're really young and we're a little scared, you know, because one thing that happens when you're scared is you're either panting or you're holding your breath. And so whether it's a school experience or a home environment,

if we don't feel like safe and rooted there, then guess what? We're not going to be breathing in the way that we need to be breathing. And so if we look at air, what can we do about air pollution? Well, we can do our part. If each of us reduces the things that harm nature or use of them, if each one of us does that. Somebody laughed at me that I recycle. Oh, most of it goes in a landfill. And you know what I said? You can guess knowing me at this point.

I said, that's their karma. I will have done my karma by putting my compost in the compost bin, putting my recycles, all organized in recycle bin. you know, I'm doing what I can, reducing, being careful. I've always been fussy about fabrics, and so I've always kind of worn natural cotton and woolen natural fabrics. And I'm doing what I can do. And if others aren't, I'm sorry, but that's on them. When they get their life review, they're going to see, they get their report card. I'm just responsible for me.

And so let's not be discouraged by what we see around us. Let's just keep on focusing if I can do, if I can keep, you know, my front walk clear. And if I can, you know, if I can do what's within my capability to do, then at least I can live more in peace. Because I'm not responsible for you. I'm not responsible for your delightful ginger cat that's strolled in. I'm not responsible for the people on the other side of the planet who are doing things. I'm responsible in that what I shop, what I buy.

Okay, how we dispose of what is no longer needed. All of those things. So we're back to how to be in the world. And we're coming back to breathing now. One of the most important things we can do is learn out of breathe properly. If you don't know how to breathe properly, go take a yoga class. It's as simple as that. How do you breathe?

You know, in 1971, I, you know, crawled into the ashram. And the first thing they did was they told me how to breathe. And I'm going no idea how to breathe properly. You know, I was doing different kinds of yoga. But then half the yoga classes, it's when it's, you know, this slow, deep from the diaphragm breathing, and all of a sudden I felt my body relaxing. I had no idea how tense I was, just simply because my diaphragm was tight,

because that was a habit. There was nothing scary going on around. It was just a habit. So breathing. Those of you who don't know how to breathe, go online. Good breathing techniques. It is probably the one thing that's always there wherever we are is breathing.

And so it becomes the number one a way of relaxing. The small technique that I offer people to start, count slowly to five while you breathe in. Count slowly to five when you breathe out. It's breathing out actually that catches people. They can often get the breathing in. Hey, I'm doing it.

And then they go to breathe out and it's woosh. I'm saying no, the breathing out is so important to find that rhythm of breathing. And so slow, deep, and you work, both from five to six to seven. Most people, if you can get up to nine, counting to nine in and out, you're probably asleep at that point. So it's one of the best. You can do it anywhere. You can do it in a red light. You can do it in a tense business meeting. You can just take that moment and breathe. And doing what you can to keep your environment clean because it's so essential. Okay, moving on. What's the next priority after air? Water. We need air. We need water. I'm moving, you know, for survival through the key things. We need water. And yet, you know, aren't we blessed? I don't know. I'm sure you've got it. I change my tap. I have water here in Montreal. We can actually drink that water. Now, as it stands, I do use a filter. Metridge has one that filters. I don't like the chlorine. They have to add it.

So it filters out anything else that may have wandered in to our drinking system. Technically, you can't drink Montreal water. And live on it, you know, quite fine. So water, how do we, you know, there's this fashion of we have to drink so many liters of water today. And like anything else, each person must find a healthy balance of how much water they need. It depends on your body. It depends on your own biorethms. It depends on the temperature.

You know, if it's really hot, if you're exercising. So each person needs to just simply pay attention. What I can say is that most people walk around dehydrated. Yeah. They just do. And they're not even aware that they're dehydrated. Good habit to have is when you go up in the morning is, you know, some people like to have a hot drink.

Other people, I'm room temperature person and other people like it, like clipping with ice. That's all fine. No problem there. Start with liquid when you get up in the morning because you haven't had anything to drink for what seven, eight hours, maybe more, maybe 10. And so the first thing your body needs, parfram air, is water. Not food. Even if you're hungry, put the water in first. And so whether it's a cup of pot water, like forget the coffee stuff. It's dehydrating. Unless it's a specific kind of herbal tea that you know is really nourishing. for you. Try just clean water. Whether it's hot and temperature with ice in it. Start your day with water. And then remember, I'm the kind of person

that perpetually you'll see me. I have a glass of water here. And I can't like, look, look, look, look, look. I watch people who look, blah, blah, it's okay if you just like did 10 kilometers or something. But, you know, sitting around or in meetings or something, then have your water right there and sit back. Because your body's going to feel better,

your whole outlook is going to work. And if we are taking care of the water, the way we can take care of water, so it's for our body, it's essential. But how do we take care of the waters around the world? How do we do that? Well, we can reduce beer-wearing fast fashion. That's a bad habit, please die.

One of the greatest pollutants other than plastics is fast fashion. If you look at landfills, and this is just straight out of National Geographic. I'm sorry, maybe the room of. That's what's filling landfills. The damage the plastic's feeling and the regular garbage that we dump out is how many tons have forgotten the fast fashion. Cheap clothing that people buy and discard after a couple of wears because it's not made with quality. And so it's better to have five articles in the closet that you can wear for tan.

years made out of natural products that when you light it down on your the earth goes oh that's cotton i know what to do with that you know that's whoa i know what to do that then you know have a closet full of of manufactured clothes and meat from um microfibers and recycled plastic it's just more plastic okay and and all of these different artificial fibers that when you light it down on the earth the earth goes please not more of that stuff. I'm having such a trouble trying to break it down. It's going to take me a thousand years to break that one down.

And so the brilliance of the human mind being able to technology, to dream of all of these things, unfortunately has wandered astray. And the only, it's like we have one vote and we have one voice. Each lifetime we get one lifetime with one body, right? that's how it is

and so we have choices and so if we look at air and water the best way that we can contribute to nature being balanced and being well is if we just each every seven billion of us if we made each one of us as small changes then it's going to help it's going to help

that's the only thing we have control over and who we vote So how do we use water? Water historically is also used in cleansing. You think of water baptism. There's many traditions that use water for baptism. There's water's an essential part in some, not just for birth but also for death. If they think of Hinduism, they put the bodies into the Ganges, you know? Because there's too many people on the planet, that became a bit of a problem.

And so, you know, things have to be adjusted. But the bottom line is water itself cleanses us. It's what we wash ourselves, inside with the water and outside with the water. So how do we give thanks to water? I had the great privilege many years ago of meeting Chief Charlie Pando, and he was keep with the waters. And I had a dear indigenous friend of mine took me to a day, where he was doing,

and busing of the waters and speaking about the waters, the importance of cleaning the waters. And so to anybody who can, who can listen and you can do something, consider how you can support cleaning the waters in your area. Did the cat get into your waste paper basket? Yeah, he's making himself known. That's all quite. That's just fun.

It's all good. So what can we do to help? You know, can we rewild our rivers? Can we help? Can we support in some way just in our locality, just here, where we are? Do you know that when they, the Thames River, I have lots of family in England. I was born there. The Thames is very well-known river around London sits on the Thames.

Okay, the Thames became so polluted that there was no wildlife in the Thames. Nothing could live in it. They decided many years ago, it's time. decades now, decades and decades, maybe 40, 50 years ago, they decided to clean it up. So they had a big cleanup program. Guess what? All the wildlife returned. All the wild life returned.

And that's what will happen. They've done experiments where they make a very small pond, just a very small pond, nature it's made correctly so that fresh water comes in and it has some drainage and what have you. And they watched it over the course of one summer. they recorded, you know, and the first thing that came was there was fatball, there was frogs, and there was crickets, and there was grassful person, and there was birds, who was finally something to eat, and because there were birds were coming, and the other critters were coming, and there was water to drink.

And this little small pond, I mean, the pond was about the size of my, yours, your office there, okay, became an entire environment within itself where wildlife had water and then a food source, And so we're capable, it doesn't have to be some, we don't have to look in horror and see this enormous continent of plastic floating in the Pacific Ocean and think, oh, why bother? You know, it's like, no, please do something small or local. So that's air and that's water. What's the next thing? Food. No, we're not there yet. Light.

Light. We couldn't live. If it wasn't for the sun, there'd be no earth, it'd be no nature, there'd be no creatures, there'd be no humans, so light. And we need, like water and air, the more natural the light is. Okay, but within reason, okay, as humans, we need to be careful of how much direct sun we get, but we still, we need light, otherwise we can't thrive. We can't live without life.

We can't. There's nothing, okay? So air, water, and light. And how important is light? It is not just daylight. You know, I encourage everybody, go out every day, go outside. I mean, I can't go through a day of it going outside, preferably at least twice, you know. And I'm talking about winter here in Montreal.

So unless it's absolutely freezing rain, okay, you know what freezing rain is or you don't have that boy. That's where everything turns to ice. I have boots that have spikes on the bottom of them. I will even go out if it's been freezing rain. Just go outside and look at the sky and the sun and go out in the evening and look at the stars and the moon. And remember that you were one with the cosmos. We go outside, we have the light of the stars at night.

We have the light of moon. In the day, we have the light of the sun, even if it's hidden. And we need this. It nourishes us. We can't sit in little closed boxes with eyes. artificial life all day, day after day, and be well. We can't do that. Now, a lot of people have jobs where they have to sit in a box all day,

and then what can you do? You can get full spectrum loading. So this is all about how to be well, how to be one with nature, how to remember the on the oneness that we share, not just on a spiritual level with everything, on an energetic level with everything, but on a fiscal level with everything. And so if you can't get outside every day for at least like 20 minutes, half an hour, then, you know, look into full spectrum lighting.

People become depressed if they don't have the right lighting. There's even a seasonal affect disorder, which is a form of depression, which a lot of people will get in northern countries where we have much less light for six months. And so we have to know how to have a well, healthy life. Otherwise, we all move south and we move on to your island. So, light, now what's fascinating is what goes with light, electromagnetic energy. Okay? So now there's a big lot of hoo-ha around electromagnetic energy

and, you know, how much of it is really accurate and truthful and how much of it is sensation is for each person to walk wisely through that. We're not going to stop it. Electricity has been part of our reality and all of these waves of microwaves and every way that we use the electromagnetic energy

that exists on the earth. Every way that we cruise on those waves and we learn to work on them and ride on them with our communications and our transmissions and everything. That's not going to stop. But how do we live wisely and in a healthy way with it? Well, I think the most important thing might be what's called Sherman's Resonance.

Do you know what that is? I'm not familiar. I've heard it before, but I couldn't tell you what it is. That's about eight cycles per second. It's the heartbeat of the Earth. It's the heartbeat. It's the scale of the electromagnetic forces of the Earth. And we are so used to it.

We don't feel it. We don't think about it. But we need it. It is part of the whole way that we are in relationship with the Earth. It's part of the electromagnetic field and the gravity and everything that ties us when astronauts go out to the space station or go on in space off to the moon. something what happens to them because they are disconnected from the earth yes they're getting air they're getting water and they're getting light but what are they missing

and how fast are those changes in the body because that's what they're missing they're not missing human design transmissions because we've got plenty of that up there okay we've got all of those radio frequencies and everything that they're working with what they're missing is the heartbeat of the earth and so how do we make sure that we try to get on to the earth you know we talk about grounding and one of the most important ways to get grounded is to go walk on the earth now that's a bit tricky in winter and then you're all they're brave tick off their winter boots and wool socks and you know because it's all snow and ice and waiting else we can't even get

down on the ground you know but least if you're outside and you are walking and, you know, snow and ice is so part of Mother Nature is how I tend to look at it. And so you just give your boots on until the plane comes. Now, what does the Earth do? And we are, you know, we don't understand how deeply effectively we are by these things. These electromagnetic things that are working, you know, within the Earth. Now, how does the Earth reset its atmosphere, you know? I don't know. Lightning storms.

20,000 approximately per day circling the Earth. Anyone interested, just look at the NASA footage from the space station when they're whipping around whatever 98 minutes or something. Something like that. And you can see all the storms and the lightning just moving around. And they say there's like 20,000 a day. And hundreds of thousands of lightning strikes. And what this is doing is it's resetting the entire atmosphere.

Don't get cranky if a thunderstorm comes along. It's essential. And do you know how the air feels after storms move through? Have you noticed how clean and wonderful the air feels? And so that's what Mother Nature is doing is she's resetting the atmosphere. And we are influenced by this. And so welcome it and respect it and enjoy it. Now, how do we keep in relationship and understanding all of these things?

Indigenous peoples would teach us that we need to just honor it and accept it and understand that this is what we're connected to and that, you know, bother storm and Mother Lightning. And that these are all an important part of being alive. And instead of disconnecting ourselves from that, okay, what's next on all this? color. Really important, a really important aspect of the wavelengths of electromagnetic energy with light. Do you remember that light is just energy, right? So we have this color spectrum. Now, here's what's really fascinating.

Do you find this fascinating? I find it all right. Absolutely. You have to remember, I think it was the last time we talked about how our body is a filtering system. system. Our body filters down what we into a range, a spectrum of what we see, what we hear, what we sense, because we would become overwhelmed. If we could hear and see and smell and sense everything, there's so much incoming stimuli. You know, elephants can smell water. What is it, 14 miles away? Well, thank goodness we can. Imagine we'd be smelling everybody's sink and toilet. Yeah. I mean, like seriously, right? Okay.

So, I mean, and you know, what a hop can see and what a dog can smell and the sense and here and all these creatures. And they each have their own body which filters out everything that is an essential for their survival. So here we are humans. We have a range in which we can see. And we are so ecocentric and species centric that we think that what we see and smell in here is all that there is. Okay, unless we happen to have a good fortune to work in a field like biology or, you know, something like that, where we understand that creatures, all the creatures have their own

spectrums of what they see and snow and hear and that we have this body that is like a limiting, you know, it's designed to limit. But that doesn't mean that it doesn't affect us. Yeah. You know? when they slowed down, you know, they always wondered what birds were singing about. They thought it was just claiming territory or looking for a mate or greeting the sunshine. And maybe they're doing that too.

I'm not going to profess to be able to understand what birds are saying. Okay. Although I have a great interesting story about that if you're interested. Yeah, of course. Absolutely. Let's hear it. So it's a very, those who know me and know the sacred plants that I work with might understand this. And so it's, I receive hymns in our tradition.

My first hymn book has 60 hymns in it. And we, in the Sankanee, we receive hymns. We don't write them. There's a big difference, okay? We're not creating them. We're not Elton John, okay? Plunking out and figuring out words and, you know, the creative process. There might be some similarities in the creative process, but in the Dengue, we receive

hymns. Someone who doesn't speak Portuguese, when we see Portuguese hymns, is a bit off the chart, okay, in the beginning. So I have, I have three handbooks, and the first one has 16, and the second one has, I think, 17, and the new one has, I think, about 13. Anyway, I'm down in the United States, I'm traveling to the Khamitiba, okay, and I had forgotten to bring my little recording, I had a little recorder now that I have my phone, but this is, you know, about 15, 20 years at all. So I would use a little handheld recorder. I'd travel with it because I would record teachings that I would receive from an elder. I would record whatever. And I receive hymns,

and you never know when you can receive them in the shower, walking along the street, driving your car. You don't know. All of a sudden, Astral opens plunk, and it starts coming. So I received this hymn, and I didn't have my little chord. I was convinced, I got to say it over and over and they wrote the words. I was convinced I was going to remember it. I got up the next morning, I had absolutely no memory of the tune, the melody. Zero, I was crushed. I kept reading the words, hoping that it would come back to me and apologize into the astral. I went just outside, and I thought, okay, I'll just be in nature, and I'll sit in a little courtyard where we were staying, and a little fountain, and the birds were coming to splash.

So I sat there, and I was just meditating and, you know, talking to the astral and saying, please can you send me the melody? I'm really sorry I didn't record it. Okay, and this blackbird comes and it lands right about two feet, right in front of me about two feet away, and it sings the melody. I know strange. Yeah. Thank you, thank you.

And then I realized that I could call home and sing it into my answering service, which is what I did. Okay, so it's pew, it's recorded now. another strange bird story that I think might be in one of my books. I was having a particular challenge and I really wasn't sure if how I was managing it was going to, you know, just it was one of those sticky moments where you think if I do it this way or if I do it that way or how about if I just try and avoid it all, you know, deny, deny, deny, avoid it and maybe it'll all go away, You know that one.

Okay. I happen to have gone downtown to pick up some items to do some shopping. It's always downtown walking on our main strip, St. Catherine Street, which is very well known through all the years for shopping and restaurants and things like that. Walking along St. Cathlin Street, like muttering and myself with this problem. And I hear all of a sudden, there's not this downtown, this is traffic. All of a sudden, you realize there's a small, you know, the small trees, they put from concrete that have probably one-third of life of the traffic.

trees that are in their natural environment. Well, the four things. There's surrounded with concrete. They have no one else to talk to. Their roots can't communicate with others. And they have always this traffic going past, polluting. But there's a bird. And it is singing it's so hard out, okay? And it transpired.

I stop and I listen. And I realize, the bird's giving me a message. And so I'm standing here. thinking, what's her telling me? And it's singing, Ray. And I looked down, written in chalk on the sidewalk, is this is a test. And I'm wondering, oh, okay, this is a test.

Now how I frame this situation is vastly different. Now I realize it's a test. So I happen to share. be receiving the melody because I was traveling with a Brazilian commitiva of elders. And so I happened to share the story later that day or the next day with one of the elders who promptly laughed and says, yeah, most of my hymns came from birds. He sang the melody to me. And so you have to stop and think, okay, now we wonder.

We're going to come back into color. So how does color affect us? You know, we're talking about the filtering thing and what birds see and what people see and everything. How does color practice? Well, it affects us. It's not just we like the color, you know. We can say, well, I like blue or I like green or, you know, I feel good when I'm wearing this color. That's all great.

That's fine. We'll change that. You know, be more in tune with what you feel well. What sort of brings out an authentic me when I'm wearing this and these colors and how I'm feeling. I'm not alone with getting up in the morning thinking I'm putting on that outfit, only to find out it's like my body won't put it on. Seriously? My body won't put it out.

I don't know if you get up and think, I'm going to wear that nice shirt and your body's isn't. No, no, no, you're wearing that one. Yeah. And do we ever stop and wonder? And we think, oh, it's because I like that. No, it isn't. It's because somehow your body needs that color on today. When we understand that the colors are simply a reflection of light, of what light is being absorbed and what light is being reflected.

And one last note. So choose your colors carefully. Choose colors that your heart and your body feel good in, that enhance your environment, that bring pleasure and joy and peace. Now, colors affect our mood. There's quite a bit of research done on this. One of the most interesting ones is Baker Palmer Pink. This is a long time ago this research was done. It was done in one of the largest of California's institutes in a holding center for criminals,

people who have been charged with crimes. They were in a holding center waiting for the judgment to be placed wherever their sentence. And what they found out is they were starting to work. So we're looking at the late 70s, early 80s when all of this research was being done. And I was fascinated with it. And what they found was by painting different colors, they could affect the moods of the people. And there was this particular pink that was called Baker Palmer Pink, okay, after the people who were doing research, that actually had the ability to calm the people down in these holding centers.

Now, I would have thought like pink, I wouldn't think of the color would calm me down if I would always think of blue, green, you know? Someone like taking me to the ocean, okay? But it's because of the research that they understood that there are actual colors, colors affect us in ways that can affect our mood. and how we manage our situations when we're put in situations where everything in our environment, if it's supportive, so people who aren't well, people who are coming from surgery, or an illness, or all of this study of light and color and air and water, all of it becomes essential as to how to restore health,

I don't have to maintain health. Do you have any questions on that about color? Any stories you want to share? It's fascinating to me to think about your body needing that color. I never thought about it as a reflection of light, but it's fascinating. And I have done that. Like there's been plenty of times where I was like, I'm going to wear this shirt today. And I was like, and I'll put it on.

I'll be like, it doesn't feel right. I'm going to go with this one over here. But I've never taken time to think that maybe my body is speaking to me. Yeah. That it's, our body will, if we pay attention to our body, it will tell us when we need water, when we need sleep, when we need to eat. I mean, we think, okay, yeah, of course it's going to tell us those things, but why aren't we paying attention?

It's going to tell us how we want our environment. It tells us what we're comfortable with and what we need to let go of or say goodbye to. And there's some combination there of our body and our soul and our unconscious and our conscious and our spirit and our mind. And again, we're back to, they're all connected and they're all one and you can't separate them. So is the body reflecting something that the soul feels? Is the soul reflecting something that the body's experiencing?

It's all fascinating. Okay? What's the next thing in an environment? Now we're to food. No, Sam. Are you hungry, George? You're shooting? I am, yes.

I'm in the breakfast today. Okay. You keep saying food, nutrition. My body's talking to me. Yeah, you need to eat. Okay. So it's actually sound. Okay.

And so I think I cough talking about sound, one of my favorite that sold this research, but they wanted to research how to sound affect us. So what they did is they took plants and they had three separate isolated from each. other and from any other environmental cues they put the exact same kind of plants it was a variety of plants in the same identical pots identical plants in these three different uh kind of chambers and they have the exact same watering schedule the exact same nutrient schedule the exact same

light the only thing that was different was sound so in chamber one they had some classical music playing Not the 1812 overture, but, you know, probably Mozart. Chamber number two, they had some light, easy-going, you know, just light, easy-going stuff that you might find as background music in an elevator and office, a store, you know. In the third, you know, a container, what they had was hard rock music. Guess what happened with the plants? So chamber one, the plants actually grew towards the speakers. They liked it.

They grew towards the speakers. Plant in container number two, healthy plants, perfectly fine. You know, cruising along with the groove of music, no problem at all. Chamber number three, the plants grew away from the speakers as far away as they could get. Interesting. Interesting. So what we are exposed to the sound. Now we have a lot of what's called the same way we have light pollution with all our cities and lights and everything that's confusing for our bodies and wildlife.

And certainly for those poor hatching turtles that are waiting for the rising sun and head for the street lights. That's the same with sound. we have in the background, we can't hear Mother Earth rumbling away and grinding her tectonic plates, okay, but that's what she's doing. We can't hear any of that. We can't hear a lot of what's happening around us, but it doesn't mean it's not happening around us. Some of it were used to. We're used to traffic and noise and honking and ambulances and sirens and all of that jazz, and we're used to it and we're able to kind of dial it out. But what kind of kind of an effect doesn't have on us. For most of us, we try and make our environment peaceful and as calm as we can. Some people live in environments where they have to work with noise, construction sites, and things like that, and they'll see they wear these big headphones because they've learned that they will damage their hearing, and it'll not just physically damaging the hearing,

it's affecting the whole body. So if plants, that often I think plants are smarter than humans, they know what to grow towards the light and healthy things. And humans keep stamp beating into unhealthy situations, right? So sound plays a really important role. They know now that they play Mozart and soft, classical and light music to animals and bonds.

The cows are happier. They give more milk. creatures are happier so light color sound all of it is influencing our health and our well-being our wellness that allows our spirituality to shine within us because our body's well and our mind is is balanced you know we have a saying mr. or Neil the founder of the Santadaini his instructions on how to go to we call them works rituals our rituals is with a healthy mind full of hope so you go to the work with a healthy mind full of hope and that's a beautiful phrase to remember on a daily basis you go to work with a

healthy mind full of hope you get up in the morning with a healthy mind full of hope right so let's have a healthy mind full of hope about how we can organize our environment so that it it fulfills and works So if we think about sound, if we look at Hinduism and some other traditions, they say in the beginning of sound, you'll even find that in the patriarchal religions of Judaism. What does Genesis open with? And God spoke. And God spoke and said so we see that sound

is connected with our origin stories, our creation stories, origin stories all connect with sound. So in Hinduism, it's only one. Right? The greatest of all the mantras. And so if we think about sound, we think, okay, we're talking. We have voices.

How do we use our voice to bring health and wellness to our life? Well, chant. Sing. You know, I think if you take a depressed person, or a person who's struggling with depression, then you change their diet, and you give them some fresh air and a healthier environment, and you put them in a choir.

It doesn't have to be a fancy choir that's going to do for a group of people who sing. Okay. You're going to find their depression. It may not completely disappear because there may be many things that play here. you're going to find that you don't want to exercise. Exercise nutrition, these are the pillars. All the research is there for depression.

And chanting and singing is at the core, sharing sound with each other, singing together. The research on this is huge and how wellness increases when we chant and sing and when we do it with others who are like-minded, that it empowers us, it opens us, it fills us with something, it connects us with something that enhances our everyday life.

Is there something you want to say about that? It just makes me think of the word harmony. Like when we're together with other people and we are, you know, embracing and sharing language or the right language or song. Like it just reminds me of how beautiful harmony is and how that makes me feel. Yeah. I mean, people sing, they sing in the shower, they sit in their car, they turn on the radio or their music or their iPod or something, and they sing along with it. This is all really healthy, you know, it's fun, it brings union, and you know, you might see people

over dinner and all of a sudden somebody starts singing a funny song or something, and a couple of people join in. And, you know, have you ever been in a restaurant? Somebody starts singing happy birthday. Just the whole restaurant starts singing happy birthday. It's just there's something that unites us when we chant and sing together. And there's something that empowers us. You know, there's something that really empowers us. And so it's how to, how to, you know, hold that in a way that is empowering and healing and bringing homes. Now, what's on the flip side of Sam. You've asked me the questions.

I'm tricking you up. I'm sorry. Silence. Silence. We all need silence. Unfortunately, too many people fill every waking moment with the following.

The right pattern. So the gift of technology is also the curse of technology, right? People get addicted to their phone and to social media and to video games and all these things that they play on their phones that I I don't understand I never played one.

I have board games with my granddaughters and card games, the old-fashioned stuff. But it's so easy to go down that tunnel where there's never any silence. What do we do with silence? We fill it. We cram it full of stuff. And yet how do we, if we understand that silence is an essential part of the human that there's a time to be signed yes yeah it's it's when you can one of my favorite

quotes is where are you between two thoughts well can i come to your favorite now you so happy friendly food we've worked our way through all the things that a lot of people see these things as separate from them. The oceans polluted over there. No, the ocean and I are one. The ocean and I are one. So all these things are essential that are around us and they are elements for basic and find that everything else the pictures are on our wall, the clothes we wear, anything else is just on top of that. Okay, nutrition. Talk to me about nutrition. When you think about it. What do you think about? I think about you are what you eat. And it's interesting that the idea of eating is almost synonymous with consumption and which you bring in, you put out,

whether you're consuming media, whether you're consuming food, what you fill yourself up with begins to overflow out you. It leads to different kinds of reactions, different kinds of relationships. and different kinds of attitudes. What's interesting thought. So when you think about nutrition, it's not just food, okay, you're thinking about how else do we fill ourselves up? Yeah. Yeah.

You know, and the interesting thing about nutrition is, you know, is it, you would scrape it all down and it's just an essential survival need. We need to eat to live. And if we look at the history of the human species, we see that we're opportunists. We are opportunists. We are no different from a crow or a coyote. We're no different.

Opportunists. There's something to eat. I'll go after it. Oh, there's something somebody else caught. I think I'll fight them for it. I'll squabble over it and I'm a bit bigger and a bit feistyre, so maybe I'll get it. And so, you know, food is survival.

Everything eats to live. We don't eat if we don't eat, we don't live. Now, if we don't breathe, we don't live. And if we don't have water, and that's the order of importance. We can do without food longer than we can do without water. We can do without water, longer than we can do without air. Here is essential. Hold us off for about five minutes, no air.

It's not going to go very well, right? Of course, we can go much longer than five minutes without water. much longer than five minutes without food, okay, probably 40 days without food, and then it's like, uh-oh, serious, uh-oh time, right? But food is essential for life, and if we look at the history of the human species, okay, we're opportunists, we will eat what's the season tells us, so let's peel off the last few hundred years and processing and refining. Let's peel all that off for a moment and talk about the last 100,000 years, prior to modern refineries and food processing.

Let's just put that on one side. And we look at the human experience on the planet. We'll see that we ate what's available and that we would follow where the food is. So if we know the fish are returning in that river, because we've paid attention, the elders have brought us the zawatch. This is when the birds return,

and this is when the fish return. And this is when the trees give their nuts or their seeds or their fruit. And so the human species watched nature because they knew they had to watch nature to know where the food is and what season is bringing what food. You know, the birds know this. The chimpanzees know this. You know, every bird on the planet knows exactly when that tree is going to bear fruit. Okay. They're watching and waiting.

until it's just perfectly right to eat. And every creature knows when, you know, the movement of whatever it is that they ingest for life. And this is what humans did. We followed the food. We followed seasons. We ate what the seasons brought us. If it was the season for berries, we ate berries. If it's the seasons that the birds return, we eat birds.

And it's a season that the fish come back up the river to lay their eggs. That's what we're eating. okay and so if it's a season for the corn to come then you know once we became moved from hunter gatherers to an agricultural based societies then we started growing things and cultivating them and so we knew the seasons to plant and how to wait and take care of them and then to harvest and these are all things that are deep deep deep deep deep in the human story and then it all got bothered up okay Because the gift always comes with the curse. They're inseparable.

Okay, so modern technology came in. And the next thing we knew is, you know, we had trucks, and we had boats and we had trucks, and we could bring food from one area to another area. We didn't have to follow it anymore. We didn't have to stay in one spot because that's where the corn or the oats or the wheat or the brew or the maniolk or the, whatever it is or ice,

whatever it is that that culture depended on, all of a sudden there was transportation, methods of transportation and trading. So as soon as boats arrived and some kind of wheeled vehicles arrived, and boats were first, right? And then very simple wheeled vehicles that donkeys would pull over, horses would pull,

what have you. And so all of a sudden food can move around a little bit and get traded. And so, you know, advance that. transportation, advance it more, advance it more. And then all of a sudden we go from this kind of transportation. Now, I think one of my grocery store across the street, and I can get blueberries in the middle of winter,

and grapes and bananas, and they're from Costa Rica and Peru and South Africa, and they're all over the planet. Okay, and that's a gift. Why is it a curse to? Why is it a curse? Because you forget the essential way in which you grow your own food.

You forget and you become lazy in a way. You no longer need to pay attention to nature to thoroughly understand where your food comes from. Yes. You do that. You begin having a lot of lack of respect for that which you consume. Yes.

So we become entitled. Greedy entitled. I deserve blueberries. I love blueberries. I've heard blueberries in January. Right. Bananas all year round. Okay.

I have bananas and mangoes and all kinds of things. I remember as a child waiting for cherry season. Now that's not that long ago. We only had blueberries and cherries in June. Okay. That's when we had them. Now, so it wasn't just the seasons and everything and then developing transportation that would allow.

refrigeration and transportation that would allow foods that are delicate to be transported and that meant different packaging okay so the gift is is we can have all kinds of foods any time of the year the curse is the agricultural business okay it's not just us getting entitled and demanding that creates that creates the need what creates the market that creates the industry that that creates a agricultural industry that becomes so profit driven, but not only are we now detached from the seasons and from eating geographically and seasonally,

which is what our bodies should be attuned to. Okay. And what we're doing now is we're creating an industry to make profit and to meet the demands, we are now ignoring nature. And so we have these enormous agricultural sites that have torn down the forests and the woods and filled in the treats and this kind of single product development. And the use of pesticides and herbicides and everything else to get rid of everything that doesn't feed that industry of demand. So whatever it is that humans are demanding that we want, whether it's coconut or avocados or almonds or whatever it is,

then the industry goes and strips down everything else. And then what happens? Well, then all the creatures start to die because they don't have what they need. Butterflies can't live on coys dogs. And because we're so single focused on profit and what humans want, Instead of saying, wait a minute, if we're going to have a thousand square acres of monoculture, because it's the monoculture, instead of letting the land life follow for one year out of seven and rotating the crops and doing things that all the old farming techniques did,

now we pump the earth full of things to make it produce. Okay, we have monoculture. And monoculture is probably one of the single most, greatest threats to a lot of our water. because they can't find what they need. I mean, I haven't seen a cricket or a grasshop or in Montreal for decades. Decades. They can't live here. There's nothing for them.

Everybody, I mean, the gardens that I've had, I've made as insect-friendly as I can, you know, the kind of plants that attract bees and butterflies and things like that when I had houses with gardens and to try and nurture whatever. I would have put beehives on the roof if I could have got away with it, but never mind. And so you see these. Now, what would happen if people demanded, well, yes, we want all these fill in the blank oats or corn or wheat or soybeans or whatever it is, the model. But we also want to help nature. So how about it for every acre, there's a piece this big that's for nature, where the natural indigenous plants are allowed to thrive?

And so the monoconterflies can fly from that to the next spot to the next spot all the way down. And the creatures and the insects and the birds and everything can gather. That means we have to adjust our prophets and our demands. We have to re-embrace nature as our family. But nature and all the creatures are our family. There's a saying in Canadian indigenous conversation, a prayer, a simple prayer called All My Relations. And when they say this, this is a prayer, it's a statement, it's an affirmation, it's a belief system. All my relations is everything.

The tree is my relationship. The birds are my relationships. They're my family. We're all connected. And if we see that, then what we eat, I mean, we're back to what we're there. Do we choose fabrics and clothing that Mother Earth can recognize? Oh, there's linen, there's cotton, there's silk, there's even fur. People who, oh, fur's terrible, they'd never wear fur.

And they wear all this microfiber plastic stuff. The microfibers are so in our air and water and brains at this point. So, yeah, okay, you know, I have a fur coat that was neighbors of my mother's. got to be at least, if I say, Hold on my, I am 74. So if I say it's at least 60 years old, and it's beautiful and it's preserved, okay? And the day comes where it can't be repurposed in any other way.

I could lie that down on the earth, and the earth would say, Hi, I know what you are. I know how to break you down and deal with you. Okay, and it's one. Okay, I'd like somebody to show me their microfiber coat that they've been wearing for 60 years. because I don't think that exists.

It's kind of where it needs. Fashion's changed. Also, I hope you get the next one. So nutrition. We've taken a long journey around. We started with food source and how we're in relationship with nature and how when we distort that through technology and agriculture industry and how do we bring it around plaque,

How do we support local food store? How do we support the sources that are organic, natural, and have good farming practices? Well, guess what? We're the shopper. Buy. Ask, look where it comes from. Google the company. See if they have best practices.

You know? I'm sure you may be fortunate there. but we're extremely fortunate here in Quebec. We have wonderful farming. We have tons of organic worms. We have lots of, you know, to be labeled organic is really tight, but we have lots of excellent farms which they're at,

a farm the old-fashioned way, you know. And so if we do that, shop locally, buy locally, support those organizations and industries that are doing their very best to reduce packaging, not use packaging that contains these forever chemicals in them. I mean, there's food packaging that contains forever chemicals in them. Chemicals that it takes the earth thousands of years to break down.

You know, like popcorn in a bag that we put in the microwave. The lining of that has plastic scented. They're going to our body and as we eat the food that it's out, you know, et cetera, et cetera. So we haven't even talked about food yet. And it would be sensible. Maybe you'll have to leave that to another show. But if we don't set the stage, does this make sense what I'm talking about?

That we have to look at the much larger picture how we evolved on the planet as a species in harmony with nature. Now, you know, nature can be dangerous too. There's plants that are poisonous. There's creatures that we cannot eat, okay? And simply because we don't eat them, We can't eat them because they would be injurious. I mean, there's lots of craze that we don't eat.

We don't eat, we don't eat toads, for example. We don't. We've got all kinds of things that are not going to work. All these poisonous plants and poisonous creatures around. And yet we're omnivores and we eat everything. We're opportunists. And so everything evolved into this. And then here we are now.

And I think other than the field of psychological, The field of nutrition is probably, if not the leader in dissent and disagreement. If you walk into any bookstore and you look at how many books there are, and I'm not telling you about just cookbooks. Cookbooks are great. You want to learn how to cook Asian or vegetarian or, you know, Caribbean or something. There's wonderful cookbooks available for all kinds of styles and flavors of cooking. I'm not talking about that.

I'm talking about this book, books that tell you that the only way to, is you have to follow this regime or that region. You have to eat this every day or don't eat that and only this and don't eat that. These regimes, but if you look at where's the science behind that? Where's the historical heritage, tradition, wisdom behind it? And usually there's none. Usually there's none. and so some guidelines for eating and choosing your food

we've talked about natural we've talked about local and if you can seasonal okay guilty my breeze and bananas and can go see around okay when I can when they're there I'll eat them sorry that's my guilty confession here so what are the basics I'm here in my books

I try and teach these basics First of all, look at your ancestors. Look up your ancestor three. Like, look up yours, George. What's your ancestral tree? Where did your parents and your grandparents and your Greek grandparents come from? Mine came from Northern European descent. Both sides?

Yep, both sides. Okay. What do they eat in northern earth? Are we talking like how far north are we talking? Well, my, are we talking like, like way up? Are we talking like, like the Netherlands and Norway? Or are we talking a little further down? Are we talking like the Baltic?

Are we talking about? Yes. Yeah. On my mom's side, they came from like the Czech, the Czech Republic area, Czechoslovakia back in the day. And my father's side was more of a French sort of that particular area going back in that area. So. Okay. So.

Not a whole lot of tropical fruit. No, if that's your heritage, then what we have to understand is we're going to be genetically predisposed to digest those foods. Okay? Because our digestive enzymes of which we have thousands, right? And everything from once it first goes in our mouth all the way down to our stomach and then through the rest of our digestive system. is designed to break food down into its single components

so our body can use them for maintenance and construction of muscles and body and cellular construction and for energy. And so the components within a food, our body has to break it down into single components. So you eat an apple, and your body breaks that down into single components. It takes out the vitamins and minerals and the fiber

and everything that's in the, you know, everything that's in there and it uses, it goes, oh, good, here's some vitamin C and here's some iron, here's some this, okay, I need that, and I need that, and I need that, and the rest will flush out, you know? And so that's how our body works. It breaks everything down into single components. It does that with the air that we breathe. Good, in case some oxygen. Let's take that out, and by the way, as we breathe out, we're sending out the CO2 that we don't need anymore. Okay. So when we understand that's what our body is doing, breaking everything down into single components so it can use it. Okay, because our body isn't a static thing. Every cell is working,

moving, and changing and transforming and cells are being born and dying. As we're speaking, you know, thousands, if not millions of them are reproducing and changing and doing a thing. Okay. So, generally. Genetically, we are predisposed to our heritage, what our heritage gives us. And so if you had said to me, which would have been a stretch, oh, I'm, you know, Japanese on this side, and Inuit on that side, okay, you know, that's a stretch. The thing is with, you know, global transportation and with modern technology and everything, you know the diaspora of people is vastly different and and this this

melange of genetic tendencies is we just have to just pay attention to it that's all it's not good better and different it's it's just paying attention to it what our heritage is and so if you look up your tree and you say okay well that's what the people were eating in that area for the last thousands of years then probably That's what the core of my diet should be. So we take our heritage and we then adjust it for our geography. In all the years I was teaching, one of the homework I would, you know, a lesson I would give, a homework I would assign would be that I wanted the class

to go and find me a coastal vegetarian culture of longevity. So I want you to answer. Did they find one? No. Never. They don't exist. Why? Because they eat primarily fish, I would imagine.

That's right. Because we're opportunists. Right. We're not going to eat what's right in front of us. And so, you know, you have all these food fads that come in that we should only eat this way. We should only eat that way. And we should only eat this at this time of day and that, at that time. No, hundreds of thousands of years.

We didn't eat like that. We eat when we're hungry or we eat when there's food available, whichever comes first. And we eat what's around. We eat what's here, what we can catch, what we can gather, what we can plant and harvest. And so we look at our seasons. You know, you live in a completely different geographical location from what I'll happen. And so actually your diet will be somewhat different from my diet. Not just only because of our heritage, is because if we look at what nature gives us,

for example, in this area of the world, before modern technology and transportation, what did the indigenous people, because there's people in what we call Canada for maybe 10,000 years at least, when the landmass was connected and they worked their way over, at least let's say 10,000, perhaps long, 15,000, something like that. What did they eat? They eat what they could hunt and fish and gather, and they learned how to dry fish. They learned how to dry, pick the apples and dry them,

so they learned how to preserve things and dry them. And so they could store up. They learned to gather the nuts and the seeds from harvest what they could eat and whether they ground it into a powder and used it in cooking or whatever they did. They gathered all of the natural especially the root vegetables that naturally grow here,

the staple of what grows here, and the old, wilder, you know, grains, because we didn't have some of the wheat growing here. It would be like a wild rice that was found here more indigenously. And that's what they would eat, you know, and they would store and dry what they could and save for the winter what they could, and they'd eat that all winter.

You know, and even if you think of the, you know, the people of the Europeans who came to colonize the Americas, what did they eat when they came here? They eat what they could store. So they would pick all the, everybody had a root cellar, and they would store all of those root vegetables.

People almost other, let's not count French fries, for me, that's not a vegetable. Okay. That's for me, he's right up there with, like, potato chips. It's not a vegetable anymore. I thought almost nothing to do with potato, right? You know, people lived on root vegetables because they would store.

You could have the sweet potatoes and the potatoes and the turnips and all the things that grow on the ground or close to the ground. Those will, if you keep them cool, they'll go through a long time. And so people lived almost. And so where are we now with eating genetically and geographically? And if so, how do we bring that? into our everyday life. What does that look like if we just use that as kind of a guideline?

What would it look like? If we listen to our body, we pay attention to the season and our geography and we understand a little bit about our genetic heritage. What would your daily diet look like? If you just listen to your body, what would your daily diet look like? Probably a lot less. People probably consume a lot less than the eating. Just like fast fashion, you've got fast food.

And I think if people listen to their body, their diet would be a lot less than what they normally have, especially when you look at the idea of empty calories and stuff like that. So if we were to listen to our bodies, we would eat almost no processed food. Yeah. We would eat almost no chemicalized food. if we just listen to our bodies

and honored what our bodies really need we'd be drinking water not soft drink we've been drinking water not coffee I mean I'm not I'm against coffee but this is something you know that a very small amount goes a very long way yeah you know

but there's a food industry that we feed and it's all profit and industry and business and churning it out and trying to get us the same way cigarette manufacturing, you know, heightened their product to create dependency. I mean, people don't even realize that, how much sugar was in cigarettes? I know. Yeah, yeah.

Inhaled sugar is they would use sugar to impart, you know, it's one of the additives that we're putting in. Everybody focuses on nicotine, but the inhaled sugar is infinitely more powerful than ingested sugar. Wow. What goes? It goes right in the bloodstream. So, you know, we look at industry is just feeding us stuff that we addict to. And so if we were to be conscious and positive changes, you're absolutely right, we would be choosing that, which is more healthy for us.

So we've been on a journey today, okay, where we're going to, hopefully everyone listening. is going to pay a little bit more attention to their environment. What am I doing to enhance my environment with color and sound and light and my connection to nature? And now my relationship with food and nutrition. Where do I start? Do I make it more simple? Do I make it more wholesome?

Do I make it more in alignment with what my ancestors would have been eating? with what the people of the land where I live, geographically, with the meeting. We look around the world. The people of the far, far north here in Canada, they lived on seal meat. It gave them everything they needed and they were really healthy. Now, you and I couldn't live on seal meat.

I'm not having a few. I have no idea what a face length. That, you know, they'd only eat the meat. They meet absolutely just about every part. of it, right? And then if you were to peel over across the other side of the world, for me, Atlanta and Japan would be eating rice and fish and, you know. And so around the world, there's all these different diets. And then how do we honor that and understand this is all part of the whole and how do we bring that into our individual lives? And that's the question for the listeners today. What can you do today and this week, but this month, to make your

environment more healthy, to make it more in alignment? with nature, which will then help you feel more whole or more well. It's great advice. To everybody listening in today, I hope you take a moment, begin with your breath, you know, learn to breathe, take a few courses, and I think the rest of the things will begin to open up to you when you take that first step. So, ladies and gentlemen, I hope you enjoyed this conversation in this series

as much as I do, and as much as Dr. Jessica does. And I hope that you're getting to learn as much as I am for sure. And I really appreciate your time, Dr. Jessica, for being here. But before I let you go, I know you got a new website. That looks amazing. I know you got some things coming up. But maybe you can share with the people what you got coming up, where people can find you on what you're excited about. Okay.

Well, people can find me on my website, which is www. And then you have the R-EV-D-R Jessica Rochester.com. and on the website there's lots of audios and videos that are free for educational purposes. People who are interested in my books, you can find them. Access through Amazon or, oh, thank you. Thank you. Yeah, for those. Or through the publisher, as you wish.

And I have some hymns up there. And the only thing I've never done is put some. I do Jendai Haiku poetry, but I've never put that up yet. That's a little bit. Oh, that's so cute. Okay, well, thank you, Clint Kiles. Thank you for listening in and I look forward to hearing your feedback on the book. So there's always the non-stop everything coming up.

And it's, you know, what am I excited about? I think I can say that I'm excited about life. And there's so many good things that I just. just kind of only count my blessings and increase gratitude for everything that's good in my life and and you know share that with who I can when I can and where I can and that you know I encourage everybody you George and everyone listening please you know practice gratitude for everything that we do have bring peace and wellness into yourself and into your own home and then a role model for those around you.

And I think that beyond lectures and podcasts and, you know, other projects that I'm working on, I think that, you know, that's what excites me the most is helping people wake up. Helping people wake up. I think you're doing a tremendous job at it. And I've seen my, I know that just having a relationship with you and having you get to be here has brought a lot of light into my life. And I know it has some of the listeners who have said things back. So I really appreciate it from the bottom of my heart.

So ladies and gentlemen, go down to the show notes, check out the books, do yourself a favor, and reach out to Dr. Jessica, because she's an incredible individual. And she has a wealth of knowledge that has definitely made my life better, and I know tons of my listeners better. So ladies and gentlemen, I hope you have a wonderful day. That's all we got for today. And I hope you have a beautiful afternoon. Hello.