TrueLife - Revitalizing Your Narrative: Dr. Nhu Truong’s Prescription for Abundance

Episode Date: December 27, 2023

One on One Video Call W/George https://tidycal.com/georgepmonty/60-minute-meetingSupport the show:https://www.paypal.me/Truelifepodcast?locale.x=en_US🚨🚨Curious about the future of psych...edelics? Imagine if Alan Watts started a secret society with Ram Dass and Hunter S. Thompson… now open the door. Use Promocode TRUELIFE for Get 25% off monthly or 30% off the annual plan For the first yearhttps://www.district216.com/http://linkedin.com/in/dr-nhu-truong🎙️ Aloha, podcast enthusiasts! 🌺 Get ready to embark on a transformative journey with a phenomenal guest on our upcoming episode of The TrueLife Podcast. Allow me to introduce the remarkable Dr. Nhu Truong, a beacon of inspiration for those yearning to break free from the clutches of burnout and embrace a purpose-driven life.🌟 Imagine a world where resilience, mindfulness, and fulfillment converge. Are you caught in the corporate burnout cycle, struggling to balance the demands of work, family, and personal well-being? Dr. Nhu Truong is here to guide you towards a future where burnout fades, replaced by vitality, and stress surrenders to purpose.🌿 With 13 years in pharmacy leadership and over 23 years of expertise spanning beauty, wellness, pharmacy, and medical sectors, Dr. Truong’s journey from burnout-induced health crisis to holistic living fuels her passion for empowering others. As the Founder and CEO of KN Health Consulting, she navigates the realms of holistic practices, mindfulness integration, and impactful lifestyle changes, ensuring remarkable results.🌈 But there’s more to Dr. Truong than her professional prowess. As an advocate for mental health, her commitment is deeply personal, having witnessed its impact and tragically losing her nephew to suicide. In her roles as an admission advisor at the STORRIE Institute, Brand Ambassador for Burn Out To All Out, and CEO of KN Health Consulting, Dr. Nhu Truong is steadfast in her mission to foster a world of kindness, love, and compassion for all.🌺 Join us as we delve into the transformative power of holistic living, navigating burnout, and crafting a purpose-driven life. Dr. Nhu Truong is not just a guest; she’s a guide, a mentor, and a #MentalHealthAdvocate ready to redefine your journey. Let’s partner to transform burnout into abundance. Ready to redefine your narrative? This episode is your invitation to transformation! 🚀 #TransformWithDrTruong #AbundanceOverBurnout One on One Video call W/George https://tidycal.com/georgepmonty/60-minute-meetingSupport the show:https://www.paypal.me/Truelifepodcast?locale.x=en_USCheck out our YouTube:https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPzfOaFtA1hF8UhnuvOQnTgKcIYPI9Ni9&si=Jgg9ATGwzhzdmjkg

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Starting point is 00:02:34 Doctor, thank you so much for being here today. How are you? What an intro, George. How are you? Hope you have a good holidays. Thank you so much for having me on your podcast. It's truly an honor. And I'm blessed to not only call you my dear friend. And I'm so proud and such an inspiration, so many. Well, thank you for the kind words. And I've done well for Christmas.
Starting point is 00:02:59 My family is happy and healthy. And that means my extended family as well. So I'm really blessed to get to be here and speak to cool people like you. And hopefully say some words that are there to help inspire other people. So, you know, maybe for my good. guests who may not know a little bit about your journey. You're an author, a wellness coach, a consultant, a doctor, you're so many things. How did you, maybe you could tell people a little bit about your backstory, about what gave you the courage and the tenacity to become who
Starting point is 00:03:29 you are today. Wow. There's so many reasons, but I think one of the things, the pivotal moments that I would say, I need to be the voice for other. would be when I see people burning out, then literally in the health care realm. You know, for someone in a health care to say in a wellness base to really take care of someone, it's a reflection of you have to take care of your people, meaning your employee and your staff and your colleague. And I think that as someone to wanting to attempt, not myself, but as a co-worker that work with me, wanting to attempt suicide for the second time. That has been like a rude awakening for me because just not only seeing the day-to-day hustle and
Starting point is 00:04:23 grind of someone showing up and a lot of things in the back end meaning family issues and things, but as an employer not really getting to know and saying, I'm sorry, I don't know what's going on, but, you know, maybe we can have a conversation or is there something we can do? not acknowledging, right, that as a human being, something is not right, a red flag. But no, it's not even having any of that. It's just saying, I don't care. I want you to show up unless you're dead. Like literally, it's just that metaphor, meaning I want you be here.
Starting point is 00:04:57 And it's just, it's just that sad situation when you're thinking about, even if it's a nephew or, you know, for her family, it's not something that you should. I think because I see myself, if you were in their shoe, what would you do? If you were a family-oriented and you got nobody else to help out, you're the aunt who doesn't have kids, but you want to take care. So it's just a heartbreaking when I see, and it's not just one time. You know, it's just, I think it's multiple layers, right? You see a lot of things, George, and I think because when you're to that point, you're like, no, it's we have to make that change even in the bigger impact. to amplify our voice to say that this is enough, right? Because healthcare, we're taking care of people.
Starting point is 00:05:46 We cannot be a disservice, and that's not serving our people at all. That's a toxic, not only to your coworker, your worker, then you come home. You're not going to be, well, look and imagine all the things you bring home. Right. So I think that was like the moment I say, no, this is it. This is where I'm going to use all my skills, my experience and all. I think, and just as my perspective on we as a health care, even just human to human, like we're humankind, how we should treat one another.
Starting point is 00:06:19 And because if we want to take care of ourselves, like well-being, like, you know, people pay a lot of money to not only beautify it on the surface, but also saying they're willing to put a lot of money to be well, right, when people are in the status quo. But you cannot do that if you can't take care of the little things, right? Yeah. And that is like a pitiful. It's just, and in a Western world for us, it's like for people who don't have anything. And then for coming perspective of you're wearing a mask, you're supposed to take care of patients.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Now you're doing a hypocrite. You're just, you know, doing it for money. That's all it is. And I truly believe that you can thrive and you can be successful, but you have to take care of your people. at the end of the day, it does not matter. You know, whatever religion, race, gender, but I think when you take care of one another, acknowledging, let's say if you're,
Starting point is 00:07:17 and I have my UPS driver, right, when I was working in the field, and I was literally, when I heard your story, George, my heart date, because I work in the field, right? And whenever time I get a package, right, whether it's at home or when I'm at work, I think all the people, because it's like they work so hard,
Starting point is 00:07:35 it does not matter. For me, it's not the duties. Like, even if it's a trash man, a trash woman, I think them, like, if it was the president, it's not, you shouldn't have a, oh, bow down because you're the president. And then you should neglect the one that is doing your recycling or your trash. To me, they all equal, right? Because everyone has a role in this planet, in this universe that we call home, right?
Starting point is 00:08:00 Whatever time that we live in. So how about thinking of outside? of saying, what if it's your brother and sister? What if is your mother? How about if it's your, you know, kid? What would you do? How would you handle? And I think that free shifting the mind, you know, of saying our perspective and saying, this is how we should think about. Right. And it's so much easy. I think it's so very simple. But many people, it's like, I don't know what to do. People ask, what's your success? What is your, you know, how did you do that? How did you do isn't that, but it's the truth. When you lead with love and kindness and empathy and really have
Starting point is 00:08:40 compassion to help others, the rest will flow. That is the law. It doesn't matter if you believe in the higher divine or not, right? And that's where I think because when you show up as who you are, you're going to attract so amazing people like you who want to help you. And that's how I truly believe that because so many amazing people, the moment I say enough is enough. And then I said, I'm going to show up differently because, you know, before I wasn't a type. I don't need to tell what I need, like what I'm doing. But now the stories is what's going to make people remember. Stories people kind of think about.
Starting point is 00:09:20 And that is like it hit them in the heart, right? Versus it's not to say that you are an important figure to say that you were there for the person, but it's reality of a wake-up call for people who say they need to be awakened. cannot be in the, you know, the hustle and then come back and saying, now my health is so stressed out and burnout, but sometimes you got to pause. Have a little reflection where we are now. How did we get here? How did I get here, right?
Starting point is 00:09:53 And I think it's sometimes looking in the mirror on our own self, not just looking point fingers, right? Why did you do that to me? No. A lot of time we have to own up to saying, we are part of what happened now, right? Yeah. That is where, how can we change?
Starting point is 00:10:10 How can we move forward? That is the conversation that we need to have, not just the blame. There's no one to blame. We're all a part of it. Yeah. Yeah, we're all guilty on some level. And I love the way in which you talk about meeting people in your life and having the same respect for them that you would have for a family member.
Starting point is 00:10:32 It's a lot of the times I've learned. is that the things you see in other people, especially the things that irritate you are just things you need to fix in yourself. You know, if you see someone, they're often reminding you of things you don't like about yourself. And if you can be aware of that, for me, that's enough to make me start laughing and be like, oh, my, I am such a knucklehead or apologize or just take that pause that you were talking about me like, okay, this person that I was annoyed at is actually doing me a huge favor
Starting point is 00:10:59 by showing me something I need to work on. And that's usually enough to change the entire. perspective of the situation, you know, and like it took a long time for me to get there, but if somebody listening to this can use this in a way that's, it'll be transformative. And I really think that's a big part of understanding your environment is understanding your relationships and why you feel the way you do. And you spoke about seeing people as family members and taking, especially in the healthcare industry, taking care of people and taking care of your people. It sounds to me like maybe this was something that was instilled in you at an early age.
Starting point is 00:11:38 Like was maybe you could speak a little bit about how you took care of your family and how that led to the career path that you chose. And how about your outlook where you are today? Well, good question, Georgia. Oh, my goodness. So I came to the U.S. as an immigrant, you know, my parents came sacrifices, leaving the home, the country for the freedom for their kids, which is now the land of the opportunities, you know, for us to make a difference and just having that freedom to do what we would like versus in the communist country, right, to be dictator on everything that you do. But with that said, it's having that sacrifices as, you know,
Starting point is 00:12:22 for the parents and when I came here did not know any English. So having that as the gratitude is always in my heart, meaning knowing that it's their sacrifices. It's, you know, where I am right now is because of them. So to that effect is I've led a life always with gratitude to this day. And then after when we came to the U.S., my father passed away with cancer. But at first, it was, he was diagnosis with kidney zone. And then they went to surgery and saying, oh, after the surgery, now he have liver cancer, quote unquote. So at that time, because you're new to the country, there's people who's been here, like maybe in past 1975.
Starting point is 00:13:06 You know, now we just came to the U.S. later and they were like, maybe you have a malpractice. Maybe something went wrong. You need to look into further. But having the financial, we didn't have the money. We didn't have the support. We have no friends, no family. How can you even look, you know, to look at that situation? So now that I think it also has the impact.
Starting point is 00:13:28 to say, I need to find out more, more than what's going on, meaning to help other people, my family to not only educate on health and wellness in the medical field, and that was one of the seed that dropped, continue dropping. And so it's, it's my passion to see that when I went to my career, I see people don't treat their patient as their family. And then after I got, to my career path, I've seen people are so frustrated and not happy. And for me, when I see all the news, but for me, I still feel like, why are they not so happy, right? Because the gratitude is one. They didn't see the positive side, right? They didn't see that they're still serving the patient. So if giving whatever situation that you have, make the best of it, but then treat it with that love and
Starting point is 00:14:23 nurturing, right? That you're in it to help to serve. It's not about, oh, they can't. They giving me too much tasks, too much metrics and KPI and all this. So now you've thrown a, I don't care, oh, the burnout and just patient as a number, that becomes your treatment philosophy, your eye to your workflow is different, right? If I treat you just a number, then, oh, I don't care if this person is going to make it or not. versus if you care for someone like your family, you want to take care of how it's being treated, how you want to word it, and how you want to take care during their illness. And that was one of the things that I've noticed that we have to kind of change.
Starting point is 00:15:09 It's not just about treatment of, oh, okay, you got to go surgery. Here's a pill, right? Here's the prescriptions. Go get it. If you don't get it fixed, come back to see me. If you don't get well, come back. And it's just really just making money. That is all it is.
Starting point is 00:15:25 If you look at and when you're in management, people make decision based on money. Again, what's the biggest bottom line is either what's the biggest return of investment to get more, you know, profit. Margin is not about serving the patient on based on their core values and their purpose of serving. And that was where I had enough. I was like, can suck me. How can we be in this situation when people can't even afford a medication, right? That's one. And how can providers, you know, going to putting themselves and saying that it's the reason for the system, but not doing anything about it.
Starting point is 00:16:08 So if I feel like, okay, if you don't like it, you have to find a way to change it, get out of it. Because when you're in it, you are collective karma. You are saying condone to it. You are saying, I agree, go ahead and continue harming the patients, right? That is where I feel like, no, we have to step up and say, we can do this. We can do it much better. And there's lots of people that will say, no, this is not. It got to stop.
Starting point is 00:16:35 So we've got to find ways to make it work for our people. This is who we are. We're here to serve to help people. And that's who, like for me, I always have that finding. a ways to help people. It doesn't matter what industry, what career path, because before I went to pharmacy school, I was always in, you know, in the beauty, meaning take care of a beautify cosmetology, cells. I mean, it's just the business aspect, but really at the end of the day, it's serving. The customer service, everything is the same. If you take care of your people, your people will
Starting point is 00:17:11 come back to you. Plain and simple. But if you're not transparent, it's not everything is transparent, you show them everything that you said you would do. But people who are smarter than you can pick it out, they're going to have that. We're going to have a conversation, right? Yeah. And I truly see that that is my burning fire. I think every day is changing, especially in health care, George. Just imagine now all the pharmacists, all the doctors and all the nurses, tapping out,
Starting point is 00:17:47 burnout and they leave. What would happen to our elderly? What would happen to our next generation? Right. And then for me, I also see another aspect that's forgotten is holistic approach. For me, it's not just treating a patient as a one pill, like a pill for an ill. It doesn't fit that way. That pill might work for an A patient, but it doesn't work for a B patient. So I think not only looking at holistic approach, meaning your mind, body, and soul and spiritually, It's so important. And I think when people look at studies, if you look at a glass of water, if you really have prayers like sincerity, pray with your thoughts and loving, that water become medicine. But if you have ill intentions and having harmful to that person, this water become toxic, like being a poison.
Starting point is 00:18:40 So that is literally the power of moving your not only energy, but there's things that I think in our naked eye we cannot see. But other powerful that can see are saying that that is the true. Meaning you can have all the water that we can filter alkaline or the best water in the world, but our thoughts are so toxic. It's killing us from the inside. It's not about the outside. We've got to hone into our inner cell. And it starts with us here. So, because everything start here.
Starting point is 00:19:21 I agree. It seems that on some level, the people that are most, in a society that is sick, those who are well-adjusted are the sickest among us. You know, and I was one of those. Like I think a lot of us go through these phases where we find ways to make ourselves fit into situations that we know we're uncomfortable, that we know we're wrong, but we're afraid. We're afraid to be that person that stands up and is like, not another minute of this. I'm going to say, I'm going to do something.
Starting point is 00:20:00 A lot of us think that. And on some level, like you spoke about, I think we become the medicine. When our thoughts become more pure, when we get to that point of not another day, not another minute, all of a sudden, we become that beacon of light for others to hope for. And you've done it. And so many people listening to this have done it where they stood up for something they believed in. And other people came to them and were like, hey, thanks for doing that. You know, and you have no idea who you can influence when you listen to your heart and you do the right thing.
Starting point is 00:20:30 Like people are watching. Maybe something bigger than people are watching. But you are like that little stone in the pond that radiates ripples when you create an act of kindness. it affects everybody around you. And it affects people on a level that you may not ever thoroughly understand, but it does. And I would argue that we are obligated to become the very best versions of ourselves. And that's when we begin to transform society. And we see it.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Like, I see the people in the comment section of the things that you're doing. I see the interviews that you're doing. And I see the passion for which you go out and you speak on a daily basis out there, like talking to people and radiating this love for people. And I'm hopeful that the future of well-being will be like this flame that catches on. But looking ahead, like, do you see the future of well-being and holistic living? How do you see the future of well-being and holistic living for individuals and larger societal context moving forward? So for me, I see the movement of shifting not only depending on just depending on, just depending on.
Starting point is 00:21:39 on bluntly, just Western medications, right? There's other modalities. And when we talk about miracles, my mother-in-law recently went to a traditional family practice and gotten all the x-ray and all the things. And she was literally, we're not able to walk in two weeks, not a single food in her body. But she did not able to walk.
Starting point is 00:22:08 But when we took her to acupuncture, okay, holistic and other, your modalities that we implement at home, it changed her life and she was able to walk, talk mentally better. But before, it was dead downhill, like literally, it's just, it's like a higher force that's up the life out of someone, right? Yeah. And there's no cure. There's no, they don't know what's going on. They can't explain it. But that is why I think for us to have this conversation is people who were giving the diagnosis do not just take that first opinion. Get a second or third opinion, right? And then look at other options that are out there holistically, plant-based medicine, right? Because it's been thousand and thousands of years.
Starting point is 00:22:57 But the reason why I stand, it's going to be sound like I'm a hypocrite, but because the pharmaceuticals are the ones, the giants, right, are making money, right? they don't want you to be cured. They want you to still be ill so they can control and that's the feeding into their money, their ecosystem. Because if they treat you well and then you don't need the medication,
Starting point is 00:23:21 you're not depending on it, then what can they do to continue making money? The obviously is there's a side effect when you take this. So I'm going to give you another pill for that side effect that you have now you have a stomach ulcers. from the medication.
Starting point is 00:23:38 And then you keep on taking that. Oh, now I'm having this other side effect. Now I'm having a rash. I'm going to give you a prescription for that, right? So it keeps on going. You add on one source, right? One illness without looking at how we can do it in holistic on all the different factors because I know the system pushed the healthcare practitioner and doctors.
Starting point is 00:24:02 They're not giving the time. I get it. I'm in there. I know. But with that saying, we have to be the leaders who say enough is enough. We have to make policy. We have to add things. We have to be the voice for our patient advocacy.
Starting point is 00:24:18 Because if you were on the other side of the table laying down as the patients, would you want a quick fix either here's a pill or surgery? Oh, it doesn't work. Oh, you don't have that much left, right? So that's it. Like, meaning it's just so there's no. feeling to the patient when you're giving them a diagnosis. I had Mark, he's a leader of like cancer society. They're giving a diagnosis of seven weeks to live. Now he's like thriving in years,
Starting point is 00:24:51 years, years. But just imagine the physician just telling him, just go ahead and prepare for the worst because you don't have, I can't cure you. I can't. There's no, you know, and just imagine if Someone believe and trust you as a doctor. But the way you handle and how you frame that person terminal, oh, I don't have that much time left. That is stuff. It's just like, so if someone doesn't have the willpower on their own to fight for their own life, they will go downhill because it's mental over mind over matter, right?
Starting point is 00:25:30 Because the same pill, if I give you a placebo, with no drugs versus, you know, nothing in it. And I say, oh, here you go. Just take it. Follow me. The instruction, so on, so. You think this is the powerful. I said, this is a magic pill.
Starting point is 00:25:45 It's a higher dose. Yeah. But it's not. It's a lower or nothing in it, right? No, nothing ingredient. And you believe in it. It's the power of your mind. And that is where I want to give people hopes that there are miracles.
Starting point is 00:26:00 There's other modalities. There's holistic. There's, I mean, There's so much, and you know this, and you would, I see implementing, you know, holistic plant base, I see that I'm respectful for our natures. Sure. Because if we don't respect our natures, mother natures, right? All the things. We're just burning and killing all the trees and just being, you know, like modernized.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Where are you going to have any plants and grass and trees and fruits and. all the things that support our system. And I think that just having respect for one another is a human being. And then even the animal to me, and people will have a different belief. But to me, it's also be kind to them because, you know, there's people who, because when people say, well, I have to eat that because, you know, it's a way to live. Is it really? people who's vegan or people who are vegetarian can live it well.
Starting point is 00:27:04 I'm not saying that you go one extreme to another, but kind of do your research, right? To see what's best for you at that moment of time to get you well. There's so much data out there. But when you talk about data that people publish, as then you have to look at it. Is it pharmaceutical? Right.
Starting point is 00:27:22 You have to read all the things that is being published. It takes money. It takes a lot of things to publish a day. data. So we're talking about big players. It's not just people who are treating that are the small people making a difference. There's things that are being passed down thousands and thousand of years that works. And it's just that is where I've seen the transition on medicine, George. And then also for me, I see of meditations, the shifting our energy, right? People are doing breathworks.
Starting point is 00:27:57 I see that is because for me, that is how it shift when I've dealt with our own grief, you know, with the loss of our nephew. And because we're coming from a spirituality, really strong to have a big impact like that, you seek deep, deep, deep more into your spirituality when it's the most trying time. And I think that's where people right now, right? I've seen that we need to have a calling for, to have an inner work, to have that prayer, to have that spirituality, awakening. Because that is where I think we're lost in this world because we're looking at outside for solutions. But it should be looking at us. How we led to now.
Starting point is 00:28:50 And what can we do to make a difference? For us, one person can. can change so many lives and it start with us. Until we change here, our hearts and our mind, we can't change anything because that's where a lot of things start because people always say, well, it's so hard. You know, it's hard to change,
Starting point is 00:29:14 but if I think it's shiffing is, is it hard to change or is it because you not willing to do the work, right? Being consistent to follow the process and trust the process to to find a better way for you. Because if you're stuck and if you fed up with the system, then you have to find a ways. So if you want to live a life of your own design like George right now in Hawaii,
Starting point is 00:29:39 then you have to find ways to make it work for your own, not only as you believe, your values, but what you stand for because at the end of the day, you have to be able to be okay with it, to be able to sleep at night. And I think that is where I see, you know, genetic testing. I see, you know, epigenomic. I see pharmacogenomic.
Starting point is 00:30:02 I see DNA testing. But really, all that is fancy. But really, for me, honing in for a useful tool that can deal with every day, that whether it's people call it meditation, whether it's mindfulness for our thoughts that come in. and how we interact. It's the same phrase, but how we interact when someone offend us? Do we judge? Do we quickly, you know, jump to conclusion and want to either say bad thing back?
Starting point is 00:30:37 Or if someone are going through a hard time, do we judge and not judge, but in a way, give advice, say, oh, new or George, you should do this because of based on your own perspective. And I think that we have to kind of reframe and want to pause, put a breakdown, and just listen to them and maybe ask, get to know them first. And I think that is the core of everything is getting to know one another on a deeper level before we make any treatment, right? And then how that specific, because we're all unique. The same method will work to someone, but it would not work to. That is where the personalized uniqueness of how it is now, and it's just more so than ever, because I think we're so the technology bring us together, so more information,
Starting point is 00:31:29 and we can streamline, we can do a lot of things that is showcased, but it's been here thousands of years. I went to conferences that are like people who are in the medical field now helping people going through the energetic work, right, on a meditation world. But that has been always been a thousand, thousand of years, right? Yeah. And it's amazing of what that will shift you, your mindset, and everything that you want to have successful in business in your life, it start with you.
Starting point is 00:32:04 And if you don't look inward and you just look outward and finding solution and all the tools and whistle and bell, at the end of day, you're not going to be happy, right? You have to look inward. And I think that's, it's a big missing in our society, George. Yeah, I agree. I think that it's, I love that you can see the changes and that shift beginning to happen, because I can see them too.
Starting point is 00:32:33 And maybe it's because of where we are in our life, or maybe it's because, you know, we're doing, we're experiencing it right now. But I do see more and more people. I think it's contagious in a way. Like when you start taking responsibility for your life and you start realizing, hey, I can be better. You know what? I can be a lot better.
Starting point is 00:32:54 And I don't like the way I'm treating these people. And then you start realizing I don't like the way I'm treating myself. Because a lot of the times, the way we treat other people is the way we treat ourselves. If you ever notice, you know, sometimes, and sometimes it's easier to notice this than somebody else first. And here's a little exercise everybody can. do. When you find yourself in a confrontational situation, be it at work or home or maybe you just witness one, the person that is having an emotional outburst is usually the way they're treating someone else is a way they treat themselves. So if you listen to the language they use,
Starting point is 00:33:25 I'm like, wow, listen to the language that person is using. They probably have that same language for their internal dialogue. And if you just think about that for a minute, it'll click and you'll be like, wait, the way I have an outburst is the same inner doll ad that I have. And that will give you the first perspective shift where you can start changing. I mean like, you know what? Maybe I don't like talking to that person that way because I don't like the way I talk to myself. And you start to see this whole other language emerge. Like the way you interact in nature.
Starting point is 00:33:54 And like you said, as outside as so inside, like if you look at our society, the way we practice the capitalism or the way we practice the society is kind of the way we treat ourselves. And so when you begin having that shift internally, you begin to shift the community. And one, like you said, one person can begin to make a difference because what happens when you start making a shift inside yourself, people notice and they're like, hey, what's nude doing? I really like her style all of a sudden. It's kind of nice to be around her. Have you noticed the way she talks?
Starting point is 00:34:25 Like you attract people and they start, it's contagious. The same way we have been trained to think of illness as contagious, so too is wellness contagious. And that's part of the shift I see happening. And it's noticing the pharmaceutical companies that are, you know, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. But on some level, they're selling addiction. Here's this pill. Get back on the treadmill. Oh, that one doesn't work. Try this one. And I don't know why they call them side effects. They're all just effects. You know, this one gives you, clears your headache, but it also gives you a stomachache. You know, they're both effects. Not one is better than the other. They're equal. And, you know, it's, it's
Starting point is 00:35:03 fascinating to see society on that level. And I love the way you're explaining that in helping people move through those systems and talking about the community impact that it has. And you know, I'm curious, too, about when you think about community impact, we've spoken a little bit about how an individual can change the community. And we've talked a little bit about how things are shifting. But what do you see in the immediate where you're at right now and the impact that this shift is having on the community. What do you see there?
Starting point is 00:35:39 So on my personal life, or your time? Let's do both. Let's do. Yeah. So let's do a little snippet. So when I did a deep dive, at first, you know,
Starting point is 00:35:54 when people always think it's success or whatever that we come across or now are able to have the calmness, It doesn't work overnight and it takes lots of lots of practice. And my nephew passed away 2020. So it's like three years now. And every time our holidays, gathering, my birthday, Christmas is never the same. And when people, when we think of the survival guilt or people stay behind, they're more hurtful.
Starting point is 00:36:25 Like, you know, people who survive a massive shooting, they're the survivor. or like in a car ramp. Just imagine the mental capacity that they have to handle to continue on living, right? Not in much time about thriving, just the mental sanity of what's going on. But the society, it's grief and loss and all the trauma. They expect, okay, I'm so sorry. But, oh, today's Monday, get back to work, right? I mean, the reality is they don't give you the grace.
Starting point is 00:36:57 They don't give you and say, oh, we're going to give you a little. grace on your rental or your mortgage, right? No, there's none of that. And I think that the society on the role on the impact, the mental health on someone that come through such a situation like that, it's, it's so, it feels suffocating in a way that no one understand what they've gone through. Because no one would, because unless you've gone through the same situations, it's so hard to know that, even though they can say, well, they shouldn't have done this or the family did this, but every, just imagine for someone to pull their own trigger. What would it be like for them to take their own life, right?
Starting point is 00:37:44 And then, or even for me, looking in as a host, well, I guess I can tell you this, as a hostage survivor myself, okay, you probably don't know. this. No. So from a hostage survivor myself, looking in a perspective of someone
Starting point is 00:38:07 pointing that at you, not at you, meaning they didn't come at a standpoint that they're coming to get you, but now you are a hostage, right? You're in that situation
Starting point is 00:38:20 and you're coming out of it. But in the middle of it, in the meat of it, you have to think of how and what led them to be there. If you have compassion, to have empathy, and feel hurt for them, then you put yourself in a different role. Then you are just only a victim. That is where I think for me to make it out alive, to this day to tell the story, it's because I empathize. I see their pain. I see that they
Starting point is 00:38:51 were hurt, right? So I'm trying to, yes, I know that you're hurting. I don't know all the, you know, what led you to what, you know, to pull trigger, to your response. I mean, just as a, for someone so smart, but led to the path of no return, just imagine you don't have a life anymore. But then how can you get them out? So they know that to release you, but also look at the family, are you leaving behind? psychology is right because the the one holding the gun is also a person a human it could be your brother and sister and so I think that that moment of shifting our mind just the thought that you're hurting because they're hurting because they have to go so extreme to be in that position and I think
Starting point is 00:39:49 that is where our society doesn't have that they're only just thinking about me meaning I'm the victim here, right? You cause harm, you cuss at me, my mental health, all the trauma, but you don't see what we done as a society contributing, whether we stay quiet when someone is abusing another person, that's still not okay, right? And I think that is the call out to say, we have a bigger role that we need to step up and say we cannot be this way anymore. And I think that is coming from love, of course, because I love people and the shows, because I'm willing to make sacrifices for others' people's well-being. So at the moment, you know, for me to release it and say, just take me versus take everybody
Starting point is 00:40:39 in the shop, just to release everybody. So, you know, for me, going back now having two kids, I would do the same because you would not want someone that have a family and kids, just imagine what would happen if they were stuck behind. So having that bigger, there's a bigger purpose of being in that situation. I think I have that mental capacity to be able to handle it. I mean, don't get me wrong.
Starting point is 00:41:10 I was traumatized, right? I wasn't that. But I have things that help me, right? help me in the moment and also in the way to get out of it and to heal. But I think as us as knowing and loving for one another to forgive someone, right? To be the bigger person to say, I'm sorry that's gone, whatever happens. But you have to be the bigger person to sorry for them even though they're hurting you. So they can let go whatever bitter and anger they've gone through in their life.
Starting point is 00:41:49 And I think it's just sometimes it's so sad for me to see people always pointing like, no, they did this to me. Whatever it is, it's all about me. When you hear about the story and people want to talk about gossip and oh, he, she, this, and they go and circle and so many different, you know. But I think when you stay true to who you are and you still love one another and you show kindness and love as your true. self. Yeah. There's nothing that I wouldn't willing to show. I'm wrong. I'm transparent as I am.
Starting point is 00:42:21 And I think because when you show up like that, people will see your true nature. But when you don't, you have that wall, that mask put on, people can't gravitate to you because they, you know, they know that you're not really real, right? You're not genuinely care for someone, someone else out there. And I think that is so that the impact that people live in nowadays, ego, greed, self-centered, it's everything about me, right? And when you talk about it's all that, my family, my sister, my brother. But if you're saying we're all in this together, we are one, one human being, one human, right? Being is we have to be in the present for one another.
Starting point is 00:43:08 And that's the biggest gift for us to be kind, to share love, compassion, without it, we're not much less than an animal. Isn't it? I mean, some of the animals are more loyal, right? When you really talk about it, because people always think defensive. But when we look at it on the characteristics, we are smarter, but does it mean smarter if we're going to cheat the system, right? And hurt one another, that's not how we should use our smartness and our intelligence.
Starting point is 00:43:40 We should be creative and help one. another and I think until we lower that's where war and everything start I feel like politics and everything it start because of our greed and eagle right of wanting control I want to control this this is mine you're not taking it so everything is like a bump head but if we really love one another and show loving kindness and grace and forgiveness it's it's the solution of what a lot of things are going on right now and mental health is like it's huge right and you know it's like you know when we talk about mental health there's so much i mean we can talk about for days right and and the things that like the the medication that people are being given that will have so much a side of it
Starting point is 00:44:33 versus plant-based you know that you can utilize so it's just i i just think that as um us individually, we need to empower people to take back the control. They have it within themselves or find people that rally and support them so they can nurture and be the beacon for their own lives and for their own family because all the things and people that are out there, you know, we want to give them the hope that knowing that there's someone out there care for them, then just all the money, money, money and everything. It's just about, you know, that's the sad world that we live in. But now with you, George, you are the positive, right?
Starting point is 00:45:20 You blast off. No, and I love your energy because I think, you know, when you show up as you, who you are and what you're so excited for, you just, I mean, you know, we talk with our heart, right? We don't need to create anything. And it shows. and I think it's just the impact that you are able to make. It's so huge.
Starting point is 00:45:48 And it's not about our career path and what our title is. And that is where people need to lower our eagle. And I will out of guard. And really, that's where our next generation will be better and it will be better for our own lives. Yeah. I really think that there's power in creation. And I know for me, when I come on and I do a podcast, like I get excited. Like, I'm really excited to talk to you and these other people and discuss these cool topics.
Starting point is 00:46:19 But in these moments, like, I'm excited because I'm really living. Like, I'm here with you and I'm having this conversation. And in the act of creating, there is no past and there is no future. There's nothing to be depressed about or there's nothing to have anxiety about. I'm not worried about what someone did to me a minute ago. I'm not worried about a conversation that I had because I'm really focused on what you're saying. I'm learning. and I feel like we're having this free flow exchange.
Starting point is 00:46:43 And I think for other people, whether you're doing a podcast or whether you're fishing or maybe you're making dinner or maybe you're reading a book or you're cleaning your house, whatever you're doing, if you can focus that you're actively doing something, if you can live in this creative moment, then you're free from the anger. You're free from the guilt. And if more people can live in that space, if they can live in the now, and it goes a long way to relieve your anger. yourself of the anxiety, to relieve yourself with the depression, to give yourself a break from that constant pressure that's telling you you're not enough or you don't have enough money or this thing's going to go wrong or you still have this problem in your life. I'm not saying people should run away from that, but I am saying people should embrace that there are things that they can't control and the more they try to control them, the more out of control their emotions get. So if you
Starting point is 00:47:34 can focus on, okay, well, right now I'm doing this thing and I'm going to work on this thing. Sometimes of people who just get out of their own way, it goes a long way and having a better relationship with themselves. Sometimes we're punishing other people for the things that we don't like about ourselves and it's being trapped in the past or, you know, I have a copy of the DSM, which is the diagnostic manual. And when I, sometimes I'll just flip through there and look at these diseases and I'm like, man, these seem to me to be ailments of a person who is more than neurotic. You know, And it's not so much a mental illness as it is a reaction to a life that they're not living, you know? And I think a lot of people could pull themselves out of there and they can really gain control of maybe not how life's going to be in the future or what something happened.
Starting point is 00:48:20 But they can control what life means to them. Maybe that's where it is, right? Like you can't control what happens, but you can control the meaning of the event on some level, right? Yes, it's so true. It's, you know, how many people can really be in the present moment, George? You know, many people, it's here, but then their mind is like, oh, I have grocery. I have, you know, oh, what's for work? Oh, I have to do a recording, this and that.
Starting point is 00:48:53 And they're not really in the moment. And so when you're really saying in the moment, it's just set intention, Even if you're walking, right? Explore the nature, the trees, the wind, all the beauties are there. But when you're not, you know, either you're listening to something or you're doing a taxi or link in YouTube or whatever, you're listening to podcasts. So your mind is diving into that conversation, you know? So it's really that minor, that people don't think that it's so important, but that little thing will make a difference in your life. and you will see things that you don't see before.
Starting point is 00:49:33 And that's the transformation. And I think when you do the work, not only you see the changes how you are, because it's your reactions, right? And other people will also have that ripple effect. Because now you're not reacting the way you used to. Now other people is gravitating, say, wait a minute. I just did that.
Starting point is 00:49:55 And she was calm. She didn't say anything. So, you know, that kind. So I think that is where they probably have to question themselves versus if you talk back, right? So there's a lot of things that even the power of staying silent, sometimes might have a bigger answer or just nothing than saying a lot of things. So I think it's because society is the doing, got to do it now, the hustle. and the, you know, social media of fancy hells and all the shiny objects. It's hard for people to go back to sometimes being simple.
Starting point is 00:50:40 Simple things can make a transformation. Like simple things that you make one changes in your life, right? Yeah. Well, it will change how your life will be. But it has to, you have to know that it start with us. We can't expect other people. Like, you know, when you have family, you have other things, you're like, I want them to change because they're meanness and that. You can't change them.
Starting point is 00:51:06 You have to change how you deal with each individual. And that's the thing that it amazed me sometimes is it's not about because sometimes people want to control. And that is the control piece, right? Right. Your spouse, your kid, you know, as a parent, you want to be controlled because. They didn't act the way you like it. So you got to discipline. You're going to have, you know, consequences.
Starting point is 00:51:34 But then sometimes or like as a husband or wife, it's the same philosophy, but it's you want the change that you want to see. It starts with you. You have to make the seed. You have to do the work to plant that trees for the next right. But it's like an art of living, literally to be mindful of all the things that you're putting out. in the universe, in your own universe. And it starts about thoughts.
Starting point is 00:52:04 And it's so phenomenon that people who don't know, but I feel like when they realize that you have it all, if you silence and not do too much sometimes, just have five minutes every day, right? People say, I don't have much time. Can you really answer yourself saying five minutes a day? Okay. Do we spend more than five minutes on a phone, right? Do we have more than five minutes on gossiping for some people? You know, just pause and do a little of me time. So you can be better for a better version of yourself.
Starting point is 00:52:45 So you can help others. Yeah. Yeah, everybody's got five minutes, you know. And if you don't wake up five minutes earlier, then there it is. You know, sometimes I wonder, it seems to me, and I know, know from my life, some of the most traumatic experiences that I've had have been really deep, reflective moments. Maybe at the moment, you know, there's some pain and some struggle and some things to go through. But looking back on some of the most transformative parts of my life where, you know, where someone I loved dearly had passed away or there was an accident or sometimes these things that happen, it's these pauses. this interrupting of the pattern of daily life that allows reality to sink in sometimes.
Starting point is 00:53:33 And I'm wondering from your perspective, as a doctor and as someone who has seen her own fair share of traumatic moments, and you're probably around it more often than a regular person because of your profession, but do you think that that allows more time for you to have reflection? And maybe that is one of the reasons why you're able to see so many of these things because you're around people that are constantly having these moments of calamity or trauma. And you're able to see people stop for a minute and make changes in their life. Like, is that something that's affected you? Well, the biggest change, I mean, I see when we're talking about, let's say, in health care is, you know, like lots of people in the hospitals who doesn't have family member or like it's just so sad that they're.
Starting point is 00:54:23 At their life, they work all their life, right? Even if you have tons of money or not, at the end of the day, when you're on your death bed and you're not able to function, it's really frustrating, right? To not only not be able to talk, not be able to do the things that you love to do, the eat, the move, and you're in hospital, lonely. And to have to have.
Starting point is 00:54:53 have that health care provider making around and having conversations that, you know, like a child to a mother, you know, or to a grandmother or grandpa or a kid, if you treat it with that, that person have hopes to live. That hopes for the patients to live is much, it's more of, it's more of, it's more of, More than any treatment, you can give a patient. And that is what I've seen, the aspect of the human kindness, human to human. Yeah. And that empathy, that compassion and love extend to that patient goes beyond the measurement of a treatment protocol. And I think when you embody, yes, you can have.
Starting point is 00:55:57 have, there's a time and place for treatment modalities and pills and all that when they're in a terminal ill and anything, but you have to treat them as a human being like they're your own family, your brothers and sister and grandmother. When you do so, that love that you relate relay through your words and your actions, it will radiate. That alone will have a ripple effect on that patient and that team members. And they keep on having that ripple effect. And I think the same way for me on my lowest point would be,
Starting point is 00:56:41 you know, I've seen so many things. And then when my, you know, nephew passed away, to have a rude awakening of this is our society of not being aware of all the things that can affect someone, meaning it could be a word, it could be, because during the pandemic, everything shut down, right? People don't have that interactions. And I think when you have less of interaction, you have to be more sensitive to how people are. And I think it taught us one thing is when people are in their lowest moment, we don't know what it looks like. They could be looking like everything's fine.
Starting point is 00:57:32 But inside, there are in the darkest moment. How are we able to get them out to give them the hope and love and kindness that they are yearning for? And they feel like no one understand them. No one really care about them to have a hope to continue living, right? And I think that is where we as society play a role in all of it. We need to be the change to we want to see anything changes. It's thought with us. A lot of people say, I want this, I want that, the system.
Starting point is 00:58:10 But we have to ask ourselves a reflections of what are we doing to be a part of it, right? Are we just being a silo and continue making the paycheck and ride the system and go with the flow and treating patients as just a number? Or are we really caring for that patient as if it was their family? It's our duties. It's our responsibilities. When you take the oath and you're here to serve, right, for one another. And not many patients have a patient advocacy in their pocket or around to take care of them. and that's the sad part. And I think having that, knowing that everyone is different,
Starting point is 00:58:53 you have to have a heart to know that so many different people are slacking just the basic of what we have. And we're not even seeing that. So to be able to change any perspective is having the gratitude of what we have now will change our shift for things, how we deal with one another. how we want to react. Before we react, how about we think of things that we be proactive and doing then reactive? And I think in our healthcare right now, and even in just in general, it's reacting, right? We need to get ahead of being proactive, not just reacting to it.
Starting point is 00:59:35 It's already done. And it's a deeper conversation, but I know we're just stretching the surface on a lot. of things that I see that it's a lot of change that needs to happen. And it start with the leaders, right? The leaders, we got to own up to our responsibility. And for me, when I see leaders, we're not talking about just as the employer. The leader is an employee also. Every single one of the, you know, part play a part. So it's not just a manager, a boss. We all is a leader in it. You need to take ownership in your own life, your own well-being. Well-being is physical body, mind, and everything start with you.
Starting point is 01:00:27 You cannot let someone else dictate and control your thoughts and saying you are not worthy and you are so-and-so. You have to take that back. You're in this earth for reason. You're in this earth for a higher calling. Yeah. And that is where I just want people to know. know that, you know, people are out here, you know, wanting to pass on that message so that way everyone can thrive and have a well-being, not only in a physical body, but my mental,
Starting point is 01:01:01 because it's harder to treat mental than a physical body, right? Physical, you see it hill, but your mind, that is where we have to, it's a deeper conversation. then the surface of looking if the scars hill on your wound, right? Yeah. Yeah, you can see the wounds on the outside, but you can't see them on the inside. And I think you made a brilliant point when who knows what, who knows the face of depression? The face of depression can wear a smile all day long, but just be so burned out inside that it tears them apart.
Starting point is 01:01:39 And a lot of people are, you know, I mean, it's sad to think about the people that I have known that have taken their own life or attempted to take in their own life. And you didn't even know. It's like, what? No way. Like it's, and it, I, I, I hope that everybody today can find a little bit more compassion when dealing with themselves and other people. Because I think that's the antidote is, you don't know what that person's going through.
Starting point is 01:02:03 You know, maybe cut them a, cut them a break, cut yourself a break and, and, and realize, every, I think it was Robin Williams who left in his last, he made a video before he committed. committed suicide and it was something along the lines of give people a break. Everyone is going through a tragedy that you have no part, that you have no understanding of. And if you can just think about that when you see someone who's upset or just think about that when you see another human being, like everyone's got their own tragedies and maybe they're going through theirs right now. I think the world could always be better with a little bit more compassion and understanding.
Starting point is 01:02:38 So Dr. New, this is amazing. I love talking to you. And we've got to have more of these conversations because I think, like you said, we just kind of scratch the surface of them. But before I let you go, where can people find you? What do you have coming up and what are you excited about? They can find me on LinkedIn. You know, we're at Dr. Newtron and or at KNHealth Consultants.com.
Starting point is 01:02:59 And then it's a lot of things are coming. And I think 2024, it's going to be an amazing year. We have a lot of collaborations coming. just it's something that I think when you see a purpose
Starting point is 01:03:22 or a need I guess for people to hone into a simple things that's where the innovative
Starting point is 01:03:30 and creating solutions become it's where it's not about making money it's about serving and where you see
Starting point is 01:03:38 the gaps close the gaps and help people and that alone you know and I want every single one that are listening through your podcast know that they can do anything, right? They can do anything they wish and they want to. Just take baby steps.
Starting point is 01:03:57 But, you know, don't let anyone say that they cannot or, you know, otherwise you are not only powerful as yourself. If you don't know it, surround yourself with powerful people. learn from people who have gone ahead of you. Yeah. You know, and just really be around a community that will cheer you up, lift you up. And even if you're watching and you feel like they are the one that kind of inspired me, stay tight to them. Like George, like for instance, you know, and just keep on listening to his podcast and learn from people who's in his podcast.
Starting point is 01:04:37 But seriously, it's just because in order for us to grow, we have to be open to seeing what other perspective is out there. And into we are kind of close on all the things that we already being paint a picture by our communities, by things that's been, you know, conditioned to us. Let's try to have a blank page and see what the new things that you want to write on the new page. What would you want to write? And I think, you know, there's a lot of things that when you become positive, you lift yourself up and others to cheer you on, you'll become unstoppable.
Starting point is 01:05:19 And then you can lift others. And I think, you know, when you leave with love, kindness and have empathy and compassion, what can't you do, George? Limitless. There you go, right? And that is where the universe will bring on you the right people. I truly believe that. And I'm honored, grateful to be in your present, George.
Starting point is 01:05:40 It's always great. not only talk to you, but, you know, you're just abundance of love. And, you know, when someone genuinely care and wants the best, you can see in the smile, right? You can see in how they talk. It's not a fluff. It's not something for show because when it's a lot of work,
Starting point is 01:06:04 it's not easy. Nothing's easy. If you're thinking towards doing podcasts is easy, nothing's easy. but it's worth it isn't it George yeah that is where I think you know just having that mindset shift
Starting point is 01:06:17 will change your life and I can't think of anything else but sending my love my gratitude prayers to all those who are in the healing you know to have a healthy speedy healing
Starting point is 01:06:36 and to always be healthy happy and abundant of love and joyful and prosperity. Yeah, that's wonderful. Well, hang on briefly. I'm going to talk to you afterwards briefly, but to everybody who got to hang out with us today,
Starting point is 01:06:53 I want to say thank you from the bottom of our hearts. I really appreciate everybody that listened. And more than that, I'm really thankful that we can all be part of the change that's going to make the world better. So I'm really thankful to everybody. And go and check out Dr. New for those listening, you probably already know her, but she is an incredible source of well-being and light and warmth and comfort.
Starting point is 01:07:12 And I suggest everybody go and reach out to her and check out what she's doing. She's got plenty of books out there. And we've just barely scratched the surface on some of her wisdom. And she cares and has a lot of compassion. And she's addictive to be around. So that's all we got for today, ladies and gentlemen. I hope you have a beautiful day. Aloha.

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