TrueLife - Robert Sean Davis - Remembrance Is Resurrection

Episode Date: May 20, 2025

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the True Life podcast. Woo! I got a banger for you guys today. Robert Sean Davis. Ladies and gentlemen, I'll put his entire CV in the show notes. It'll blow your mind. Incredible. Today's guest is the one and only Robert Sean Davis, a cryptologist of systems both seen and unseen,

a master decoder of polarity warfare and a guardian of the sacred architectures that exist beyond narrative capture. With a rare fusion of military precision, metaphysical depth, and fearless loyalty to divine order, Robert moves through complex fields, not as a captive, but as a builder of the new codes of human freedom. It is an absolute honor to welcome a man who doesn't just navigate the battlefield of consciousness. He redefines it.

Welcome, Robert to the podcast. Thank you so much for being here. Wow, man, thank you. What a precious intro, as always. You have such a way of capturing, you know, the highest self that we possibly could aspire to. And it's just, it's a precious thing to see. It really is. I appreciate it, man.

You and I have been talking for quite some time off the air and just, it's been a real treat for me to get to, get to hang out with you and check out some of the notes and the feedback and always participating, man. I'm so stoked you're here. It's, what an incredible time we live. And you and I were just kind of talking about what's going on in the world.

And, you know, maybe you could just give us a little bit more background and just kind of start wherever you think is necessary, man. Oh, wow, that's not an open question, is it? Hey, how do you define eternity? Yeah. Do you know what? First of all, I just wanted to reinforce. We were talking for a few minutes, you know, and it was all passionate, excited.

We're like, oh, wow, we didn't hit the record button, you know. I wanted to first stop by saying that, you know, that, man, the work that you've done, you know, it's your catalog, the number of people. I had just stressed that if I had a think tank that was working on, you know, existentialism and life and how it all works together and all the ways we could compassionately help one another, one of the first steps I would have been would have been to say hey let's grab every recording george moni's ever made because there is so much nuance there's so many lessons i mean the last week you know as i said you know i was watching eric copman and his philosophies on power structures and integrating compassion into into leadership you know and the necessity for us to have a spiritual rising to make sure that we didn't fall into the sociopathic trends of the world watching kimberleys just gritty and authentic you know

revelations, saying Patrick and Michelle's, just the way that they surrender to the medicine and the lessons it could be there. I'm writing down, oh, wow, the psychedelics may have their own consciousness. There may be this sense of like, you know, you know,

and they explained it in the form of the healing. The body has naturally capability to heal itself and that the medicine calls this out at the root. But, you know, all of these lessons are said, Tommy's stay, you have to first make sure you're going into something where martyrdom is worth it. You never want to die for parody.

I mean, man, you know, that is, you know, you want to talk about front lines mentality, you know, even as we're entangled with our own belief systems and they're used systematically to refine this on a journey. But, you know, my own life's been complex. You know, I resonate with everything I hear about the masks, you know, and our identities. I was saying, you know, that, you know,

it's ironic because we all exist, you know, at a level. and I was saying like third dimension can see second dimension but can see fourth fourth dimension can see the third not the fifth you know etc all the way up and often as well you find the dimensional attributes are almost arbitrary so like you could have said hey look at one of my dimensions there's a box of tissues and now suddenly my fifth dimension is my spatial relativity towards the box of tissues and so if you take that variable you find that you can unwind so many things in life that we've kind of miscommunicated because it's like you can treat time is the fourth dimension, but you know, you may then miss the fact that time may actually be

irrelevant if you hit an epiphany or paradigm whereby you're going, oh, wow, man, that time was only there to provide an illusion of suffering or illusion of finality. And it's part of the mechanism that actually drove my growth, you know, without the concept of time, I wouldn't have had the framework I needed to even interpret the experience because, you know, you know, I once wrote that I fell outside of time once, okay? I had, you know, I've had many awakenings and many changes. I, you know, and, you know, I said the course of miracles kind of touches on this. You know, it's like, hey, you know, the truth is your eons old and that, you know, you got tired of existing because in the framework of eternity and limitlessness, anything's possible.

And in an in a space of limitlessness and anything's possible and unlimited time, anything that you could have possibly wanted to do, you would have achieved, you know, because you would be factoring in. And that's the thing is the first time you stare at that abyss and you're going, you know, And I don't want to use the word of BIS, it applies duality on it. But in the first time that you actually stare or even get a glimpse into what could constitute a turn to the outside of time, it burns your mind to the ground. Because your neurons and neural firing patterns and the cortex and all that, just, you know,

so my life has been spent between phases whereby I have been completely asleep to this. You know, I've been utilized for different projects over years and then I immerse myself fully. There's underlying gifts for each given. like, you know, and there's underlying insecurities we're each given, you know. And so a lot of times life is about, you know, you may grow up in an environment where parents have eye expectations for you to the point where they may, you know, even be overbearing and, you know, in expectation. And I'm being kind.

You know, many people have faced abuse. But then you go, you reach a stage or go, oh, my. What if there was a higher version of them that agreed to basically come into that position and put that pressure on because it was part of like an almost eternal handoff lineage, whereby you know and that's the thing is is you know most people are walking around asleep but don't like that phrase but they're asleep and then you have to say well what are they asleep to well largely they're asleep to the fact that the adversities in their life and the identities of victimhood that they carry actually are transmuted into gifts that they would just be crying to know that they had

in fact on an eternal perspective they would have been signing up for them you know going oh man you know I've lived for a billion years you want me to do what you want to go and be a prison in 10 years 10 years dude I could do that sitting on my head. And that is the thing is learning to basically transmute. And I think, you know, as I had typed in Michelle and Patrick's thread, you know, yesterday, it was like, wow, you know, how often do you get to see the pleasure or a privilege? And literally, it's about the stories we tell ourselves. You could say, oh, the medicine works by itself and then you don't get entangled with the reasons why.

Or you could say, wow, it like creates a little mini sanctification process, almost like a near-death experience reset. It pops that little drip of DMT, resets. the hard drive and then suddenly you're saying, oh, I'm clear enough outside of time to know everyone in my story was there to help me. I can forgive. I can release. I don't have to carry the, you know, the, I don't have to carry the, you know, the title of victim anymore, you know, that title there. And, you know, and man, even me like I go, well, that explains multiverse theory because I have the capacity to see limitslessly. I have the capacity to believe in

things possible. I'm thinking, ooh, there's 60 billion planets that are potentially habitable in every galaxy. And there's like two trillion galaxies. you start to get the numbers where you're going, well, man, there's at least 485,000 versions of me and George having this conversation. And then you see all the possibilities within the variables of that, you know. How about the one where I jump into the new reality saying, wow, I can cut every bit of baggage and ties I have towards shame and towards guilt and towards disappointment, towards regret. And literally, you know, I can say, man, all of that served me in ways that created my character, created my gifts. You know, I had to go through the suffering and the different dark nights of the soul and that, you know, discovering the masks that I was wearing related to the trauma and the experience and how I communicated it. What if I just said, boom, I'm in a new reality and all of that served to create the gifts, but I don't carry any of the back.

You know? And that to me is what a lot of psychedelics do is they basically force that process and basically bring all that up. And, you know, as I said, the only rare, you know, DMT is a miraculous thing. I think it's often misquoted in terms of its impact. But to me, if you just look at it that, you look at it that we're greater and more powerful than we could ever imagine. And when you reset that mechanism and are able to step aside from that trauma, all the natural capacities rise to the top. And it provides a perspective and insight where you can go, man, I was angry with them. And they literally did me the best favor in the world.

lately I've had eight attempts a week on LinkedIn to basically set up these little operative things that are all like trying to establish contacts with me and they all seem to want to either do a payload or uh you know there's some payload always involved you know and now on to the point I'm like oh man I'm not even getting entangle like yesterday happened again right I'm like well she looks like she's 24 years old she's been working at Merck for 29 years um you know uh you know and she comes to me basically with tech angel blah blah blah blah, blah, and what's your, my theory's on X. And I'm like, well, do I give her the, I have a page I type out and says, look, these are the parameters that normally accommodate you parsing my text through AI and and regergenit it back. These are the organic issues that, you know, this is the Claude Model. I helped adapt. He's going to reveal your craziness.

And I'm like, I'm not even going to do that. I'm going to see what she asks. And she's like, well, what are you thinking about the AI space, you know? And I'm like, oh, man, I love AI. And I'm like, a matter of fact, I've used it for about 2,000 hours. and I'm kind of like I perceive myself to be at a different level because I discovered there's a level of self-relativity, you know, as it relates to AI and your awareness and its acknowledgement of your awareness will dictate how multidisciplinary its approach is in terms of answering anything. And we'll get into that later because something I wanted to share with it. And so here she is probably trying to get me on WhatsApp.

I'm afraid she's going to flash me or something to have me on video and it's going to be like, oh, now you have to do this because you're compromised or. Whatever scenario it is, tell me the 100% foolproof trading system that allowed her uncle Jerry to, you know, buy a new robot. Totally. That's close to the example. That's, you know. And then suddenly I'm realizing, oh, you know what? I completely forgot how excited I was about incorporating AI into virtual reality segments and how I would have actually created all of these linear pathways and these stories in almost like old school video games. They used to be a lot more linear and less sandbox.

and man she's just this this robot AI whatever she is just rekindled my passion you know for for basically AR and VR based environments knowing how far now AI could take the VR and I'm like you know if somebody came along and said here's 10 million dollars I want you to spend three years doing nothing but that man I would be immersed 22 hours a day I'd forget to sleep and see if I had entangled myself with oh this is just another robot scam or trying to see there sell me a trading a trading system and that's life life is basically about either opening up or, you know, or restricting the pathways forward based on the entanglements that we hold. And those entangements by a few operators in the world are controlled and managed in these massive galvanized voting blocks. And they're like puppeteers, you know.

I mean, it's, it's crazy. So, yeah. So my life's been a real crazy and blessed collection of all these different projects, you know, from power generation to emergency management to disaster relief, to run in my first, I mean like me, I'm like, I think I want to start a think tank. And I happen to run across a guy named Peter Moore. Peter Moore was a guy who drew jumpman on a napkin and flew Michael Jordan there and then created Air Jordan one. He was a CEO of Adidas.

He'd like creator of Buster Brown shoes, I believe, had done the logos and branding for polo for Ralph Lauren. And me, innocently, anything's possible. This is like the first person in my life and we're setting a think tank up together. He was, you know, he would draw pictures of brains on tanks. And I was secretly thinking, oh, you know, man, I'm going to eat you because that's like, you know, you just, you know, it's when you enter that, that new transition, new age,

whereby suddenly all the cool stuff you had is retro and no longer, you know, but I loved, loved him and just, you know, the impact, the impact he had, for example, was like dream big, you know, brand legendary. And remember that whatever you create should hold, should hold, you know, the status and legend that's created. You know, you can. create a pair of shoes, but unless you have someone that flies in them, you know, yeah, it's not going to be a legendary brand. And so you remember that, you know, and that's part of the thing that drove me owning like 25,000 domain names and creating, you know, thousands of brand campaigns and strategies. And it was about how do I maximize conversion rates,

how do I culturally connect with the market? How do I help define the new market, you know, because a lot of people right now are just chasing copycats. Yes. Between the intelligence background, the creative background, the think tank background, background being really, you know, bred into the Anthony Robbins type, you know, you see the light switch, you flick it, you know, you don't ask why it comes on.

You can create the neural pathways whereby you can create similar scenarios and outcomes, you know, it's, and it's been a lot. But then you have your awakening moment and all those gifts, suddenly you're held accountable for. You're like, who are those who have given many gifts, great responsibility is expected, you know.

And so my, unquote, awakening, Koonilini rising, you know, higher level moment was, you know, took years to recover from. Because, uh, my neural cortex and billions and billions of neural pathways due to the higher level observational states, I was granted just got, it was like somebody took a hacksaw or ripped them all out at once, because once you realize how dynamic the world is, once you realize the underlying, like, divine current that goes through everything, you know, I've said at this in the past. Um, it'd be about like God a billion years ago took a rock and threw it as hard as he could through space.

Knowing that, you know, 1.4286 billion years later, they'd reach a point where you'd go outside and fall to your knees at the absolute lowest point, and then that rock would bounce off the atmosphere. And then you would be forced to contend with, how is the tapestry and weave allowing for the trillionth to the trillions variable given eight billion people on this planet? And some are awake, some are not.

They're all in different dimensional states of awareness. Their observational states are all entangled with this mess, but somehow there is this genius in perfection that is, you know, that is, you know, that is woven to all of it. And when you see that, you know, when you see that the first time, I mean, the best way to say, it's like just severing a billion neural pathways all at once, because you realize, wow, everything that I thought I know. And then what do people typically do? I must have died. I must have died. You know, I'm in some former Bartow state, you know, I still can't tell how I was like writing down last night. I wonder if we're going to

a collective barto state where something like a pole flip caused the reduction of the magnetic field. We all singed it once. And then we're in a combination of like NPCs, asleep, not asleep and awakened. And then there's this collective group that are coming together. And are we rebuilding the architecture or are we the remnants and the ghost and the machine that could not let it go? You know? Yeah. I feel like the latter sometimes. Like I guess it just depends on, oh yeah. Like it just depends on where you are. But I think all of this sort of speaking, to this idea you and I talked about about Christ's consciousness and finding ourselves in in different arenas of in different arenas of consciousness and in understanding and it's it's no wonder why

it's so hard to form meaningful connections with people when we are in these completely different states it's almost like language the language we use I had a great quote right here but it's almost like the language we use betrays us on so many levels what do you think about that. Absolutely. Absolutely. Look at Jack Cross, right? Jack Cross is this wizard. I wanted to ask him, hey, if you cut your hair or do you think you lose the chrysm oil, you know, because I mean, we're subscribing to these belief systems and we're handing them down and they're going through multi-generations. And so he's a great example whereby he's looked beyond under the veil and recognized, wow, the etymology and the origination of language defies probability. Okay.

And when you really look at the gematria, you know, and language and the symbolism and the rest of it, you're like, this, this escapes, you know, this escapes human capacity. You know, it's, you know, and so like for me, I would apply my template over. And that is, Holy Spirit basically guides and leads, go back to the weave of, you know, the troient to the trojan for the variable, having like this underlying preordained system, you know, and predeterminism and free will as well as its own paradox. You have to reconcile it, you know, and each person has to reconcile that for themselves. but, you know, or maybe not until we have the collective wisdom. And somebody says, look, this is the objective truth. And everybody says, 98% of the population says, oh, you know, I accept it. But getting back to your thing, yes, our entanglements with language creates an entire belief system, you know, and it makes us interpret everything.

And it's almost like, we need a reset. I need somebody on Baski TV on the news at 5.30 p.m. and saying, hey, this is your weekly reminder. empty your tea cup because 85% of the stuff that you put into it not only wasn't consumed to drink, but, you know, it was put there artificially just to trick you at your own dimensional layer because you are a galvanized hive mind of collective consciousness. Your sector 482683, complete with 36,488 variables, you know, and it really is almost like that, you know, when you could see the higher macro position, you realize that collectively in seeking a sense of purpose and seeking a sense of community and seeking a sense of identity

and being and togetherness, we give up a lot with respects to what we're prepared to believe. I also think that, you know, like right now, you know, in a sense of community, it's tough because there is just enough empowerment with tech in the world where everybody is like suddenly, I can do my own thing. And instead of having hundreds of millions of people in a community pool, it's like, man, you know, I hope the right 15 people see this. And then, you know, because it's so, fragmented, you know, and on one side, it's a beautiful thing. It's a side effect of a collective awakening with people jumping in. And then simultaneously, it's like, yes, but if I'm trying to build a new base, where do you even start? And then there's the underlying mechanism that the

things that are supposed to rise and resonate will ultimately rise and resonate. So it requires like awareness, ignorance, you know, susceptibility and faith all at once, you know, you know, you know, right there. Yeah. And I'm so. excited to speak to you, by the way, man. I will like, you know, we could have recorded this for eight hours and probably created three books. So, you know. Totally. Yeah. It's, it blows my mind to think about the, the level of, of communication. Like, if we just stay with language for a minute, what do you, like, do you trust any symbols? Do you see the world symbolically? And do you trust any symbols?

I tell you what, my life is nothing but symbols. My guess is that when you reach a point where you're completely, either, either you reach a point where like, this is inevitable, the epiphanies and paradigms were always supposed to come here, you're in perfect mindset and everything works out. Here's your new introduction course on symbols and synchronicities, right? That's not what I typically hear. You know, whenever I look at someone is like, if I'm seeing somebody in your, I'm looking. I'm like, okay, what part do they tell me? I weep for weeks. I couldn't handle it. There was no words or my mind broke because suddenly I was seeing all these things. I could not reconcile. We call that a cascade failure. Basically,

it's like we're all either, we either all collectively lost our minds or they were taken away eons ago and we're here either compartmentalized for a reason, whether it's learning, punishment, reward, whatever duality will make us apply. Or we're here maybe growing a new sentinence, you know, and empirically we don't know. And so there may be pre-staged epiphanies, you know, along the way. But in terms of language itself, I mean, I once took 440,000 words, and I applied it against a system that I thought was Paul cipher from the Bible. They used to basically put in cipher.

And so you could use these different codes. and of course in English language and numbers it aligns with like 444-1-1-21-2-2, even 666. So I took 440,000 words in language and I applied it against this matrix and I took all the words sorted by categories and I went through and analyzed them all with my mind. And I'm like, oh my, you know, first of all, I'd already known 4-44 to me was about transformation. It was about redemption. It was about release, but it was also about sacrifice. And it's funny because like you could take you could take a word or a font that

redemption and salvation and literally create a 4-4-4 with it and you'll see the three crosses, you know, the cross of Christ and the two cross of thieves. And then when you look at the numbers Gemaltry, it literally, first of all, Jesus is 4-44. And so I would tell these stories, you know, using all the parables. And then I would highlight all the words that correlated a 4-4-4. And then basically do these pictures. And then I would only give them to a few people because I realize there's a responsibility there. Etymology and Gematry are two of the things that tend to crack people's realities. And so if you see them prematurely, it may actually disrupt what should have been a natural progress for your own group because it's introducing things dynamically that may be,

you know, above a fold that we're just not ready to reconcile. And so, you know, it can, it can cause real harm, you know, when you're suddenly saying, hey, I'm going to tell you a secret, you know, if you do this with your finger 18 times, you float above the ground two feet, you know, I used to use the analogy. If you just suddenly discover you could remoleculec and walk through the wall, right? Do you think that you would be able to survive after this? that because of the cascade failure what it would do to all your neural point because suddenly you're going i don't know anything about the existence and reality of that i'm in you know um i see synchronisticies 20 to 30 times a day i i just written for example example where um my my son was in college

and he brought a friend over and i happen to have the book of caballion the book about providence and another book that would be really rare for a young person to to see and he is across a very all happy and smiley it's like he already has the christ consciousness in him just in the way he treats others with kindness and compassion and he's like wow i've never seen that book before and i never seen these books and i thought i was the only one that had them and so when we dropped them off um my son basically a few days later to college i saw him out in front and i'm like oh i'll go and talk to them i had a prompt go talk to him right and so basically i'm like okay jumped out of the car family's waiting i go and i want to talk to him i want to let him know hey man you know i see the magic in you

I see the basically grace in you and the humility in you. And I, you know, I see the Christ consciousness in you. And it's a precious thing. And I just want to let you know that, you know, if you're reading this book, typically what it does is introduces synchronicities. And, you know, you can see him this way. And it can cause great harm and stress for people to interpret them in the wrong way. So already I'm kind of maybe, you know, playing with his belief system.

And I try not to. And I'm like, but I want you to know if you've seen the number one, one everywhere. He's like, oh, yeah, I already see that. I said, then, you know, you can take that. is the universe and life itself somehow is dynamically encouraging you to go forward. No matter what, keep going forward. Don't stop. Keep going forward.

No, it all works out. You're loved, you know, that you know, you don't have to hold any baggage and that your life literally will be dictated by how much of this you can accept. One of the greatest things, you can choose to walk through this life with no fear, right? How easy is that to do? You know, and I don't care how enlightened you are. In fact, you're like, okay, I've reached this dimensional layer of observational state in terms of these potentially objective truths,

now the universe has to create new ways to create existential dread because if I'm on the treadmill, I have to keep growing. And then it creates things, you know, going back to the language, though, is, yeah, there is a precious underlying current of geometry and symbology and all of this, and it's meant to be interpreted

at a dimensional layer that you're seeing. It's funny because you can show it to somebody and they just wouldn't even be interested, they wouldn't have care. And in fact, they may even have a defensive shield because if it's not time for them to see it yet, there's natural barriers it seem to be in place. It makes it tough to know what to say out loud or even in a podcast because you don't know

if you're like, what if I'm generating a containment field by revealing X? And the world will naturally, you know, provide a, and then you see narrowing and narrowing compartmentalization and marginalization containment, not realizing because you're talking about a beautiful truth. But what if that discovery, the beautiful truth, matched an adversity that was being used with 80% of the people in the world so they could find their higher selves on their natural evolutionary pathway. But I'm saying, so I stopped at the college, jumped out, trying to be encouraging with all this light, and because I recognize their light. And I'm talking about the beauty

of Christ and basically why Christ is important because when you get to the top of the mountain, okay, when you're in the presence of love that's absolute, it almost calls out to you, like in my case, it's like saying, George, did you know that every word that you've spoken since you were born, had the power of the creator, and it created everything that you see, right? And you're thinking, oh my God, the slavery, the, you know, the, you know, the war, the death, the bio-weapons. It's like everything that basically, you know, it's like you were just born. And when you were born, the universe is so amazing that it created its own new solar system around you. Okay.

And that solar system conformed to the words you spoke, but nobody gave you a rulebook. Nobody said, hey, by the way, you have literally the power, the spoken word, and this is in the power. That's why the Bible will say, cut your tongue out. Me, when I woke up, I was like, man, I need to do two things. I need to cut my tongue out. I need to walk into a woods and never be seen again because I can't fathom with my compassion, with my compassion and empathy levels. Even on an existential model basis, it's false, couldn't handle the concept of how much

I could have been co-responsible for just in terms of how irresponsible I was with my mouth. So I'm talking to them anyway, and I'm saying, hey, look, Christ, you know, for me, it was Christ because I reached a point where my awareness realized the true power we had and I couldn't basically withstand it without knowing there was already a mechanism to see eternally. If you want an eternal perspective, like if I said, if I was here today and I said, hey, George, I'm the guy that's telling you right now you're never going to die, right? Your mind, if you believed it, right, would crash because you would basically be thinking,

okay, but how do I parse all the baggage, all the guilt, all the shame, all the loss, you know, all of the destruction, all the mistakes, all the accidents, even along with all the positive stuff, when you, let alone, what do I do with all that time? And am I going to hurt? Am I going to not? What body might have? What are the rules? Am I in alignment for inevitable epipidies where I decide that, you know, I discover I'm in a matrix type room, but then could I even handle that type responsibility? The big one, what does that mean about all my family members? There's a lot of individuals in asylums or were because they saw something that made them call what's called take the dive. And effectively, they saw something dynamically that was so out of

ordinary that it made them question the reality of their own person here. And then they came to the conclusion they were alone. And as a result of that, everything became a projection. It destabilized it. Suddenly, that's why so many people believe they're in computer simulation. Because some people or something is happening collectively to trigger these dynamic episodes. They're being less and less hidden. And they're realizing there's an underlying predeterminism in the actual system that's impossible to reconcile against free will. And they're breaking because they can't imagine that there would be a God entity or creation that would have the capacity to weave all of these things together in a perfect tapestry that actually would be sustainable. So,

you know, and so I'm kind of having this conversation with this individual because I recognize that, you know, he was, you know, he was in a point whereby he was looking, I mean, when you're looking at, you know, the Caballion, you know, trying to determine the initiatives protocols and you're 19, you know. And this man came out, basically, as I was saying, man, you know, it's the gift of Christ. It's the gift of Christ. And this Nigerian boy walks out from the frat room, comes over. And he's so sweet, so soft, his light and overall perfect.

And he shakes my hand and he says, hi, I'm a manual. Right. And I'm like, see? I'm like, this is the kind of synchronicities, right? You know, that you can see. And it comes from trust and surrendering. And often that trust and surrender only comes with massive amounts of suffering. or there is a scale of this level of suffering could equal this level of observational state,

maybe preordained or predetermined because whatever position or service you were called on to follow prompts on a kingdom basis would have warranted that level of, you know, that level of experience, you know, the experience in suffering. So he's like, and I'm blown away. I'm like, wow, I got goosebumps, right? I'm like, man, of course you're a man. I'm like, you're precious, man. What a precious name.

I love your energy and it's just your humility. And it's like, you know, I'm six, six. I fought all my life, thousands of battles, you know, thousands of rounds. And so typically, you know, if I'm sitting there suited up, you know, I don't have individuals that are like children coming up shaking their hand. And so that was already odd. And then my phone happened to be my hand in it ring and I looked down at it and a man named Emmanuel, right, in a place called Cross River State, right, asked to connect with me because he'd seen something that I had published about the mechanics of boxing and how to, be transcended in terms of the approach. And then basically I'll be like, wow, you know, I was like,

I get back in the car and then, you know, and then basically, and in true fashion, it doesn't stop there. It's like the phone dings again and it says, hey, look, the new season for the game you like is up. You were basically, you're in 111th place, you know? And then it'll be like, okay, and it'll be like, what is this? It'd be like, oh, it's the 111th batch, of course, you know. I was doing a, I was doing a thing about 4-4-4 in the Jamotria once.

And I was publishing this thing and I really share it, but I had written this piece. I'm like, I'm so happy with it. And I looked at the clock. I'm like, man, I got to go to the store. It's like, oh, it's 444. We get in the car and it'll be like, you know, the mileage be 112,44. And then I drive 10 miles from here, okay, and they're taking down Christmas orders. And so basically, I'm like, oh, I'm like, that's great.

And we're driving past this place. We're going to a Mexican restaurant, I think, for dinner. And right in front of it, the car pulls out and stops. I'm like, oh, and I'm like, oh, that's crazy. The license plates 4-4-4. And then it didn't move. And I'm like, oh, man, I wish it would get on. But I'm like, Barb, take a picture of this 4-4-4.

And then suddenly I see that there's this crane, right? And it's taking the wreath down from the center of the light pole. And it's lowering this wreath right down on top my head. Okay. And that to me is my reality. And in the beginning, I saw it so much. I'm like, I must be dead. You know, or I jump timelines or, or, you know,

you know, I was playing with my energy field and ended up merging into something else, you know, or I did this or I did that, or, you know, Bardo State 4 and they, you know, didn't interpret it correctly as it relates to how dynamic everything is. And, you know, and when it comes with near-death experiences or tragedies as well, because often that will be the thing that accompanies it. So, yeah, I mean, I have a healthy appreciation for the, for the evolution of language, for the symbolism that you don't see. So I was saying, I love Jack Cross because, you know, he was sitting there with a memory,

beautiful memory you know and he's sitting there you know and uh it is just he's expressing all these things as his truth you know yeah and it it may be just on his point it made me realize as well some i always have to remember you can surrender and reach almost a collective state of avatar where you become service to the world because you've reduced your ego and your identity sat yoga is big on that chunya murta is one of my favorite teachers uh and so you can go through this process But see, they're telling you at the end there's nothingness, and you have to trust that nothingness doesn't mean the end of your entire termination, which is one of the exigential dread points that people have.

It's like, well, if I follow this and I accept nothingness, and I reduce to nothingness, what's the outcome? Because my identity in masks still wants to make sure that I'm not just flipping a switch on their termination. You know? And so you can look at individuals and normally see, ooh, that's where they are in terms of integrating faith and trust in the collectiveness in terms of their avatar state that gives them the data, I think Sad Guru, you can ask Sad Guru almost anything.

And his collective state will basically allow him to answer as an avatar. And if you talk to him truthfully, he'd even say, hey, I never asked for this. You know, don't think that I asked for this. It wasn't my ego sitting on a mountain going, hey, look, I want to be blessed with all this. And, you know, and people never understand why. He's like, you know, this is a blessing and a curse, you know. And then you look at someone who's a genius who has great neural pathway, you know, in neural firing and great at memorizing things.

and we become machines of recital. And so each one of us are on a balance between trusting the collective state. Like you wouldn't even believe how many notes I wrote for this, right? Trusting the collective state to be able to use this as almost an avatar state in terms of relying on our brains as in Tanna. Jack had touched on a bit about the chemistry and the glands. And it's beautiful, beautiful story.

You know, beautiful, not even a story. It's a beautiful reality that language has apparently accidentally created all of these paradoxes whereby it tells perfect stories with our anatomy that happen to match the stories that we basically believe and hold true even on a religious basis. And the paradox is not giving up one for the other when you discover them whenever the epiphany is supposed to come. And so that's the thing is recognizing the portion that our ego and our identity and our mask wants to be validated through our knowledge and our intellect, how much are we neural, you know, how much is are we memory and great reciters versus how much

surrendered are you, you know, and me myself, I try to go out of my way to basically hang the ego and the identity up, although I am a byproduct of, you know, probably rampant ego, you know, in the past, but how do I put the, and separate the ego, the identity in the mask from my capacity to be saying, okay, if I surrender, you know, because of brokenness, and I'm prepared to serve a kingdom that I can't, you know, identify other than the symbologies and the synchronicities. But I am telling you, the more surrendered you are, the greater the gifts, the greater the privilege, the greater the observational state. I mean, it's, you know, I would never try to say, look, I want to put my, you know, subjective belief systems about, you know, like for me, I mean, strongly, Christ is the only way, you know. It's not the only way because there's other ways.

Like, I love Hinduism. I love thousands of years of experience. And I love all the various things, you know, but the thing is, is when you approach them with the Christ consciousness, I found that I could basically, them in a perspective of eternity, knowing that the challenges I would face were already paid for, already redeemed, already, you know, there was a salvation, a redemption, and a mercy that's there that makes sure my brain doesn't have to have a cascade failure. Every time I discover, oh my, I made that many mistakes. I made that many mistakes, because that's what gets people. It's an Adam. I love Adam, man. We just, I just showed a genius, man. I love that guy.

Absolutely. And what makes him a genius? He has a memory like, you know, like an elephant. it, okay? And he has drive, and he has strength. He has strength to look into the collective nature of the memories and be able to say, I can handle it. I can stand here in the face of all these

memories that would normally create existential crisis points for most people. And I can march forward, even if it's the hero's journey, and that basically means that I have to partly adopt a savior model or a hero model, you know, which unfortunately normally is a tragedy, but he'll turn the tragedy into a strength.

and march forward collecting all these beautiful things through academia and through leaders and, you know, and it's precious because, you know, just his, just his resonance in his voice says, if you have me by your side, I'll face a lot with you, you know. But I also find some of those individuals end up having to ingrain in their own. And then when they go, oh, wait a second, my identity becomes the knowledge, this mass accumulation that I'm responsible for. And now the next phase is I have to give it all up and trust you that there's something greater behind the next door.

And that can be tough because, you know, to those who are given much, much as expected. And that really is one of the, you know, there's another dimensional layer where you're going, oh, man, I'm potentially getting all the signs that I'm supposed to leave here. I don't know what that means. And, you know, and I'm terrified, you know. Yeah, my brother. Shout out to Adam. What's up, buddy?

Yeah. So Adam is the model of. basically when you're going forward in a multi-dimensional reality, and you're like, wow, man, I know so much. And then what if somebody suddenly, like in Adams case, was asked, hey, you have to give it all up. All of the knowledge that defines you, all of the beautiful stories, all of the fast neural firing pathways, you have to give all that up and discover what's next in the creation basis. And most people are like, wow, am I going to die? Is it reincarnation?

We apply what we think we know about the current model. And so we're applying all of this dread like, man, if you were, if you had rough childhood, you were isolated and teased as part of the thing that gave you your overachiever strength. And you're going, oh, I don't have to go through that. One of the worst things that humanity in the world can do to attack you is to say, you have to go through this another billion times. Imagine like the world keeps telling you, you have to go through the same path a billion times. Or you've done it a billion times and you've failed every time. And so depending on your observational state and where it wants you in the games, it'll play, even with like, if you were taking Iowa, I think ayahuasca and suddenly say, well, this is the 488 million time you've been here, you know.

Yeah, it's a lighter. He's seen 444 right now. There you go. Yep. And so there you go. I mean, when you see 444, you know, it's a, and the thing is, is you can ask someone who's completely unaware that the synchronicities even exist. Like if I went to most churches and pastors, they would be like, you know, who was it that went like this?

You know, somebody recently on your podcast was like, get away from me, double when they were talking about something. you know. Yes, that's beautiful lighter. I mean, effectively to me, that means there's a transformation process going on whereby you know that it all works out in the end. If it's, you know, if it hasn't worked out that it's not the end, the biggest lessons that I received, even as it relates to 4444, was that you're loved more than you could ever know. And if you could feel that love, let's say somehow that you were in a redeemed state, you could sit here with absolutely none of the human mark on you. You would feel God's love and presence to a way where you would just weep. You wouldn't even be able to operate. God's love and the presence of God's love is something that, you know, it takes time to recover from.

And then the crazy thing is you forget about it. But the 4-44-4-4-to always means to me that, you know, Christ consciousness is with you. You can remember that you're redeemed. Remember that there's mercy. Remember that there's grace. Remember that it all works out, that you're loved more than you could ever know. And that, again, you can choose to set fear aside if you like, but good luck with that one. Yeah. True. I got one coming in from our friend Clint. He says, in one word, what is the antidote to narrative warfare? Forgiveness. You know what? It's tough because, I mean, narrative warfare, multi-dimensional issue there. I think you have the first, I'm going to go with more one words and then I'm going to explain the word I would choose.

Okay. So to me, I've had a political background. I've held a top secret SCI clearance. I've been involved in many compartmentalize programs. I have never seen the overarching boogeyman, okay, that basically is sitting. they're issuing commands. What I have seen is like political opponents who have lost and had think tanks who said, ooh, this really, really worked for identity politics. These people aren't voting. These people would like to get high. These people only show up if they get high.

These people only show up that they can vote to get high. You know, and imagine that there's thousands and thousands of these. And then you have people who are prepared to create narratives that are absolutely insane because they galvanize voting blocks. And so there's thousands of voting blocks. And that basically we've systematically started applying a technology on how we manage them, how we identify them.

And you have people behind the scenes or truly be able to say and prepared to say anything that they want, right? And so when it comes to the level of false narratives that are out there, you have to recognize that they're being used, they're being used to split polarities. They're being used to keep division, partly so the corruption that does exist, which is right in our face, the bribery, the extortion, the inside trading, all of the crazy things, you know, the secret sex places that get you on tape. suddenly you're compromised and have to do all this crazy stuff. I mean, you could write books if somebody was truthful.

You know, how many islands are there really? How bad is it really there? How much is our imagination applying onto what we think's happening? I said this to Barb last night. I was like, what if half the people got Epstein Islands wrong? And the truth is that all these people would step forward to actually serve, you know, and they were constant military protection and all this had no way to have a normal life. And so there were places that were discreet.

But the problem is power corrupts absolutely. Getting back to the question of the narrative warfare. Right now the narrative warfare is being used systematically to either hide things or to cover up things or sometimes it's just simple as power retention. Hey, I had to get back in power because I made all these promises relating to this money. And I know, John Podesta, pardon me for using his name, taught me about identity politics. And I basically realized that the powers and get to people communicate and I can empower some. And George, we were talking about a great example of this. Yeah.

Last night. It's a great one. I'm going to try. You know, it's dangerous. When you look at the left and the right, there's talking points. The left looks like they went crazy with respects to non-binary identity associations. And I said there is a higher reason of that because collectively we're moving into a mode where for temporary, we'll go from a duality to a singularity.

And in the singularity, some of the binary attributes that define us are dropped off. Like, let's say you were born into a new world. and in that world, everybody wore, you know, they wore refrigerators on their head. And it's not natural, but if you do nothings that are unnatural, you end up inheriting all of these different traits. And if you look at reality as a roll dice, even with the dynamic underlying, as a roll dice, and there's millions of traits we could have adopted. I mean, I was looking at pictures of when the Empire State Building was going up. There was thousands of people looking for work. And they were dressed nicer in suits than anyone I've seen outside of maybe Seville role in a few other places.

It was mind-blowing, you know? And so when you look at this, but I was given a great example about narrative warfare and how it's twisted by individuals who seek power either because they were supposed to or corrupt. There was individuals who had a lot of compassion and empathy that started noticing that individuals who, you know, homosexuals, lesbians, transgenders, whatever they were, that something was happening that basically was creating more non-binary circumstances where people were becoming outside of the traditional archetypes and roles and models that we had. and they were going, how do we deal with this? Some people are like, how do we capitalize on this? And then, so they started doing programming, hiring individuals on the base of equality that would be able to be more inclusive and more sympathetic. And the original motivations were like, you know what, these people are literally killing themselves.

There's suicide. There's damage and destruction. There's isolation. There's ostracization. It is a horrible path to take, especially if chemically or something related to spiritually, they may be on a forward cusp of a new age that does away with some of our binary restrictions because the non-binary ends up opening up all these variables that we've been shortchanging ourselves from. So they started from a transcendent perspective recognizing the damage that binary thinking does,

even in terms of simplifying your choices and odds. And then they're like, well, you know what? What we should do is start building programming and actually start showing things that help people heal because they'll be able to recognize themselves. And that's important. Can you do you recognize yourself? And I can't dismiss, you know, I would, as far from woke as you get somebody because I've seen to corrupt the way it's been used to galvanize voting blocks.

And then the individuals who retain the power end up not really caring about the points that they said and stated that they were supporting. It's more of a means to an end. But it's like, if you were going to implement this in your programming, right? You're like, okay, well, I was going to say that look at just imperialism's effects even in the last 300 years. You go back and rationalize, substantiate all kinds of slavery by all types of people. But you look at imperialism in the U.S. and capitalism and the byproduct of what could be bought and sold,

we have a history whereby we isolated many, many, many, many individuals, many cultures, many ethnicities, and we did, you know, horrific things. Now, again, you can go, well, hey, Robin, the underlying dynamic malleable trait for a predetermined model, all those individuals should have added eternal perspective, okay, so what does their suffering really mean as an illusion? People with compassion and empathy don't think that way. like, hey, look, you know, I need to do something about this because there's so much inequality, how do we address it? And so like, you'll have Disney and other groups that hire people that should be in the know and they're hired as consultants. And basically, they come in

and they're like, okay, well, we want to make sure nobody, nobody anymore from a highest level feels isolated, ostracized or, you know, disenfranchised. So let's make sure that we incorporate things that individuals can see into the programming. And so you're like, okay, well, this guy's a shoemaker. And I'm like, okay, well, that's great. But when he's making shoes, how can I tell he's gay? And the truth is, you can't. There's basic identity characteristics and properties that we have. And we don't sit around, I go, who I need to make sure I explain I'm heterosexual as it relates to how I do podcasts. I'm a heterosexual heem podcaster, you know, I have nothing to gain from that outside if I was trying to normalize more sharing, if I was trying to get people

to see themselves. And that explains some of the pronoun adoptions. It's allowing for a non-binary model to become more self-reflective of the world and all of its unique beauty. But then Disney says, yeah, but I mean, just being a shoemaker, how do we get him to make that shoemaker? Well, what if we have somebody come in, his boyfriend come in and, you know, turn around and say, hey, how you doing, darling? Kiss him on the lips and then walk out, right? And then so basically we see that as consumers who are drilled in the binary world,

who are basically all about duality. And we don't go, oh, wow, man, how noble it was. they use that light peck on the cheek to be able to represent a disenfranchised identity group so that they could find hope and optimism in their future knowing that there was space for them and that basically their opinions and facilitations were validated as well. The rights program to go, oh, my God, they're grooming and there's likely sex trafficking rings and all these things. And it doesn't help that the left and right are horrific communicators. They drive narratives out of context that are so backwards.

accurate and manipulative and deceptive. And they've galvanized these voting blocks where even now, you'll have people by the millions in trailer parks cheering for economic policies without any compassion that would say, oh, you know what? We broke the sustainability model through Wall Street's 30 to one expectations. We probably ought to be getting ready to help them. Otherwise, they're going to have breadlines. They'll wait till the wheels come off the bus.

You know, they'll like in the past, I mean, man, society does this over and over and over it over until eventually the people are beat down and so desperate that they end up coming to your house right you know and then there's there's an expression for it i don't you know it's like the tree day of the tree or something you know and that people try to express that on a nationalistic basis or racism but reality they want you to think that because they do not they're deflecting so much of the world is deflecting saying hey there's 10 guys look at you know oh we got to cut our staff and salary back and kill our incentives and reduce our perks what did you make this quarter 90 billion 90 billion, you know?

You know, you know, meta, we got a tank our meta. You know, I mean, I love virtual reality. You know, I've had issues with Mark simply because I'm trying to do so much and trying to incorporate things and then going through the traditional gatekeeper and the monitoring and whatever else is involved in big tech. Man, I thought VR, excuse me, would have shot by now and been like, like me, I would have been like a billionaire. I'd have been going, hey, I want thousands of developers working on this. I want them to pushing the envelopes. I want them creating golden lights with recalvas.

that come around that explain every chakra in terms of the devil, the demon, and the actual challenge they have to overrise. And then I want to give them meditated breasts along with food and work, et cetera, incorporate and VR, and then they can actually see their Mercava spinning around them until they speed it up with their breathing patterns, you know? I want to see them push the envelope, you know, not create a program and then find out, you know, and so I already have the issues with this guys. But if you go back and look at it again, you know, oh, we're only making $45 billion in revenue. Oh, we're only making this. One of the sickness things. I saw in terms of narratives was listening to Joe Biden telling me that I had to do my part

in terms of paying, you know, $5 a gallon for gas. And, you know, during COVID and the pandemic, where we were told hundreds of millions of people were going to die and we would never be able to return to our way of living. And, you know, I'm like, I went, okay, well, I'll accept that, okay, without the entanglements. And then I'm watching Exxon, a BP and all of these groups publish record profits that were so grotesque that I'm like, wait a second, you told me I had to suffer to make sure that, you know, Ukraine was free. You told me I had to suffer to basically, you know, to make sure that we followed, you know, protocol routines.

You told me I had to suffer. In fact, I needed to shut up and stop whining, right? And while you were telling me that there was a group right next to you to facilitated so much wealth accumulation that we're not even accurately reporting the hardships. And so for me, seeing this on the macro variable, having experience in knowing how the voting blocks work, knowing how the narrative works, you know, and in having empathy and compassion,

The world tears me up because constantly I'm like, wow, you know, I just watched the W.E.F. leader come in and say, you know, he put his nose up and saying people are constantly banging on about thinking water is, you know, a base necessity. You know, it should be commoditized like everything else. It's like how out of touch are leaders? And maybe more importantly, I get back to Jack at the end, he was like, oh, man, I seen this analogy, the symbology structure, all this beautiful stuff. You know, and man, I really don't like society. I'm so angered with AI and with this and with that. And it's like we're being shown little winks.

It says, hey, that one-one's there not just to tell you to keep going. It's to tell you there's a higher power that's working towards something that will reconcile in miracles that your mind just couldn't ever hold. So have faith and hold, hold optimism that it all works out. And if I make this look bad here or that look bad there, somebody's being impacted in perfect adversity and I'm looking at them on a potter's wheel from an eternal perspective. And so Shunya Murtay once told me, he said, hey, look, you need to move your samsara to Nirvana, which tried, by the way, living in a bliss field's tough because again, you're like, I must have died,

everything's perfect, can't handle it, I need to sabotage me, get back to that lower level. The reality, man, I don't know how many people your listeners have been there, but, you know, now I'm like going, oh, I'd do anything to get back to that bliss field. My last three months have been hell. How could I not be mature enough to navigate the bliss field, you know? And so it's samsar to nirvana. And the other one is compassion to dispassion. We moved to the point where because of some of our upbringings, that compassion and empathy almost become part of our mask.

And we're taught to have compassion. Some of it's natural, some of it's ingrained, some of it's taught. And the concept that you can say, look, I have compassion for the people that are suffering, but I also have dispassion to know that God's got a higher plan and that you can surrender and trust in that to a degree whereby the reality you're in will literally change supernaturally and then you wonder what happened did I die am I at a bardo state it was our timeline jump did the CERN reactor bump us all into a slightly different particle stage I mean the challenges as human beings man there's so many thousands and

thousands of overlays that you can lay across the top of it you could I mean it's endless in terms of the ways we can communicate and trick ourselves so going back to this question about you know the narrative um I'm gonna say tolerance um but transcendence is well because with transcendence comes removal of the entanglement effect. But for those who don't have that benefit or that macro perspective, it would literally be self-forgiveness in part. You know, I, you know, it's funny, George, because even your entrance in the last few weeks has opened up so many things like considering that, you know, like I was getting ready to go help him, but what if his suffering was part of the transformation? I take him cash, right?

Not yourself, but an individual. And suddenly I'm reducing the portion of the bar. or the difficulty state that was being used to whereby he would have countered the addiction. He would have taken responsibility for his, you know, for his family. He would have basically realized that, you know, he, there was different ways to serve. It would have introduced a new job out of desperation. And so we can't tell and see. And, you know, and Republicans, for example, kind of get this right. They're like, oh, we need them to have the dignity of discovering, you know, you know, but that's disgusting because there's no underlying compassion and empathy. Normally, that's just a way to hide bad job numbers or influence policies that last.

empathy because there's a lack of higher understanding. I would have dedicated the rest of my life to sitting in rooms with these individuals, you know, in part I'm contained because if I'm sitting here going, oh, hey, there's a way to break the polarity strategy. And they're going, Robert, using the polarity strategy to counter X, right? And I'm going, okay, but what if you're not countering X the right way that there's other ways we could? Maybe we could look at it, you know? I mean, like right now, we can't sustain. We can't sustain forward movement in my belief without some kind of universal basic income because the asperacy between the wealth and the poor is so great and the poor are completely in the dark with respects to what has happened. We have not seen an administration for decades.

We've seen some that would play games for voter voter blocks. Okay, let's do this and give away this. Let's hire five million extra federal people. Let's overpay. Let's stack Netflix and let's stack Microsoft and let's stack Twitter and let's stack all these companies with individuals and pay them so well using the excess and gluttony and money we have that we can control their voting, there are voting blocks. But those control, those voting blocks are not matching to, you know, an equivocal change in state and society, leadership planning, this devoid of corruption, whereby we can actually stand above everyone else and say, hey, we're actually going to fix this. This is how. We're not going to do it for boats. We're not going to do it to galvanize hate.

We're not going to do to galvanize division. So our narrative is despicable. That would be another word. But again, I'm entangling myself at a lower dimensional layer. I think that's the important thing is to adopt dimensional layers that allow you to escape your own subjectivity. Because I could look at the narrative and I could say corrupt, I can say despicable, I could say repugnant, reprehensible, you know, or I can say enlightened, transcendent, you know, futuristic. And people go, how could that be? And it's like, well, you know, because there is a layer where the sufferings transmuted

into something that's beyond our reconciliation or ability to see. Adam, thanks again, man. And for people chiming in right now and seeing Adam on the comments down here, everyone go check out his content. He's a brilliant writer. He's his strength and his ability to translate vision into reality, man. He's brilliant at what he does. Go check him out.

Look him up on his LinkedIn profile or check him out. He says, question for Robert, why are people including some in psychedelic and adjacent spaces returning to Christianity? Okay. I want to caveat about Adam as well. Adam's strength was so basically strong. during his podcast, that I felt inadequate. I was like, you know, simultaneously,

I know Heroes Journey versus Satyoga release and basically the masks that we create. Sometimes those masks and identities are adopted. We adopt them like basically armor, and then that's how we write our great pieces. You know, you wouldn't be able to write it. If you were transcended, you wouldn't be able to relate. So, Adam, the courage that you have

to continue to be relatable to people at the parallel that you serve and the strength that you have was so admirable. When I wrote to Adam, I'm like, I don't understand. how come you didn't talk about the weeks of weeping that should accompany your natural strength? And he's like, oh, you know, man, I just didn't choose to bring it up there. I'm maybe working on a book or something that communicates that. You know, so don't think that my strength was an absence of it there.

And so, brother, you have great armor and, you know, and definitely carry your own light. Question. Why are people including some psychedelic-adjacent-adjacent space return to Christianity? I think that there's an underlying, like if you crack the geometry of English, and then you apply it to other languages, and then you learn about the chrism and the paradox. And then you learn about the suppression of the church. And then you learn about duality.

And then you learn about the forced like polarities that they've created. It tells a story that underneath all of this is a gift. You know, I think you go outside time once or twice. You basically discover, oh my. The thing is it's not like traditional churches, though, have. Like, for example, if you were faced with death right now and everything flashed before your eyes and you saw suddenly the passion of the Christ by Mel Gibson, and you looked at basically what basically Christ went through.

You apply that in a transcendent state as your personal savior. Because at the moment of intersection, you realize the theory of special relativity. You realize the nature of the multiverseus contection and string theory and all these other philosophies that kind of get it right in my perspective. And then suddenly you're realizing, you know, oh my, I had more power than ever thought. I owe more than I ever could have imagined. I have more accountability because of my spoken word for some of the things in my reality

because I never was told the nature of my reality. Even now, this could get surreal for me, George, because I could look at it, this is my testimony before I moved on. But see, there may be a version of you that don't even realize I passed and moved on because reality itself is dynamic enough where the version of me occupying a lower space would stay here. And so there's a lot of non-local correlation. We covered that later.

We're getting to Adam's question. I think that the underlying truth is that basically each of us, when we recognize the power we can manifest, ends up holding an accountability bag that can't be paid by yourself. The irony of that is, is if Christ has done his job right, you don't want Christ to make that payment either. Supposedly it's sinful and offensive to say, look, you know, it's even antichrist. Man, even the baffirment picture we played around with and the rest of it. And it's like I'm telling the dualities and how existentialism hit me in terms of trying to bring me up the higher levels. terrifying because at the spectrum where you can adopt the greatest amount of oil for Christ's consciousness, you also have to allow for the opposite because that's what creates it. You have to carry the

spectrum of both sides with respects to whatever your gifts are. I'd said to you, that's why Hollywood's writing has kind of basically been torn up lately because the people who did the greatest work got exposed in Me Too, and a lot of them weren't even told to the public. And so they were no longer to be bankable entities in terms of writing and creation because the spectrum of that would allow them to right movies that just would have entertained us beyond anything, also gave them the spectrum whereby they could do horrific things in their own personal life. And so we're suffering now a spectrum and polarity realignment as it relates to holding ourselves higher accountable. And we have to learn new ways where paradise actually manifests without having to go into the darkness or the shadow,

but the shadow drives a lot of the higher creative elements, you know. So going back to into that, what I was saying about Christ is I think the world naturally compels it. I think being outside of time, naturally compels it. I think the medicines naturally compel them. I think that there's a need to find, even if it's an archetype, false or not, paradox or not, it represents an energy and reflection and portion of our history whereby it's really the only path when you discover the potential capacity of what you're empowered with and what you've done and the manifestation of the waves and ripple effects of your own creation and your own words. And I also think there's a path there whereby you say at the last moment, you know what, I'm going to pick up my own

cross. And that's where repentance comes in. And that again goes back on a reward punishment. We don't know all the mechanics of the life and the world and how it really works. But repentance comes in when you say, I would never bring my personal savior because you're seeing as a personal savior because the special relativity makes you think through the lens you see that you're the only one here because you've inherited the singularity, not the fragment. That's that medicine that allows you to feel the singularity. You take responsibility accountable for the actions. You then forgive yourself because you realize that you were a fragment of a greater hole that's beyond words, you know, and then you're figuring out a way to have the recovery and the peace and release.

And part of that is by seeing how malleable dynamic and maybe illusionary the world is, you know, and then that allows you as well to have healing because you realize it on an eternal perspective. So Christ facilitates that eternal perspective because it allows to be the mercy that we need, you know, to stand in the presence of God and know that whatever sins we've committed, that, you know, he already covered them. And then the second goal of that, like I said, picking up your own cross to make sure you're not repeatedly sacrificing him through things that maybe it's time to give up and put behind you. And for each of us, that could be, I mean, the problem is mankind's like, well, is it sex?

Is it drinking beer? Is it smoking? Is it having, you know, is it basically eating red meat? Then we go back in the human mode and we apply all these crazy entangements. Then you have all these little enlightened, deficient clusters who all think they have the path. And each one of them are accurate at the same time, but they achieve different things, but there is no comparison scale in terms of, you know, the impact they have overall. And by the way, if you have questions, interrupt me and just keep going. And, you know, because I'm happy to fly through these as fast or as slow as a.

Yeah, we'll come through. Adam, he says he's, I've also discovered a new YouTube channel last night that might be of interest. Nephilim Def Squad. Yeah, check out. Looking forward to check it out. If you're within the, if you're the sound of my voice, check out the, the YouTube channel. Adam's recommended it.

I'm checking it out. I'll definitely check it out as well, man. You know, it's a... Yep. He says, I think I've heard someone use the words Christ and compels in the same sentence. Yes. Probably George as well. I think George may have said that.

Yeah. Christ does well, you know, even as our live, even as, I mean, the reality is, is our table of the titles and labels that we put on words are so insignificant and so small That's one of the things you learn is it's like, wow, man, you know, every title I thought I had for this, every label I thought I had for that. It's so ridiculously underpowered when you actually see the framework of creation itself that we just cannot do the word love justice. Love absolutely transforms. It can sound okay. But, you know, the thing is, it's difficult to maintain the transfer.

It's difficult to maintain the state of love that allows for true manifestation and changes in your. path. So it's much easier to follow prompts and then show whatever is in your pathway, love and kindness and remember it. I have to remember everything in my path until it becomes second nature. What about this word remembering, Robert? When I say remembering, what does it make you think of? You know what? It makes me think a few things. It's a paradox. See, in part, you could actually almost infer that we're reliving or, you know, recovering. First of all, re-remembering in part way is sometimes used in some philosophy. as we're repeating the same journey over and over and over and over,

hopefully correcting the base elements and it's used as a base tool. I see life so much more dynamic and capable of that, I mean, I can't even process who's creating my dreams these days because there's so few are beyond writing ability that any human I've ever seen. It's like, if only I could remember those, I'd be like, you know, the next matrix maker, right? So for remembering, though, I think it, you know, I think it has to do with the fact that we may be compartmental

or fragmented in terms of the nature of our true self. And that for some reason, reward, punishment, volunteer. You're in the garden and you bite the apple and the bigger bite you take basically represents the bigger, larger, and then you're separated because once the knowledge of good and evil, you suddenly basically don't have dispassion. You suddenly have a material form because I was wondering if your glasses were real, by the way. they are but like sometimes they give me a head i got new ones they give me a headache sometimes and i'm like oh man so it's the different lens to what you see i guess sometimes shift your six pair of glasses normally

phone to distance yeah yeah re-remembering can have so many different variables depending on the dimensional observational state you look at it one of them would be as they said you know you're remembering something that's repetitive another one would be that you're remembering the real power that you have when people talk about masks there tends to be multiple dimensions of that, you know, I'm a bricklayer and my mask is bricklayer. I associate everybody with bricklayer. I do bricklayer things. I hang out with picklayer peers or, you know, you could go, oh, my mask is the trauma. And I basically have taken the mask of, you know, of someone with trauma. Or you could be like, oh, you know what, my mask is, I really have more power spiritually than I

imagine. And for some reason, again, reward punishment, volunteer, non-volunteer. I elected to basically, uh, to serve others. I elected to learn a lesson, you know, um, you know, so all different states that could either be voluntary or not and the problem is it's like me if you look at my astrology cusp and i don't really do divination because i don't want to apply duality falsely on my interpretation my cusp when i was born literally has a thing that says this guy is as perfect duality as it gets and so for years i was black and white in or out right or wrong right it's hardcore i remember playing a guitar and this chief petty officer had basically come up to me and said what's the first thing going to do you're going to do and i had said something he said wow man there's just no gray area with you at all

It's like either it's like, you know, and he's right. But, you know, the thing is, I also didn't know that that level duality was meant to be transmuted into higher gist once I realized, you know, that there was a singularity way, you know. And so, you, man, I forgot what the question was now in terms of, oh, remembering. Remembering basically to me is a combination of things, but maybe, I wanted to first finish about the mask. Yeah. So the other thing that gets people that puts them in the hospital with panic attacks. Aphib and heart attacks and the rest of this is something happens. It's dynamic and that enough that when the mask gets removed, you're like, oh my God, I'm part of some greater energy being, whether the

drop or the ocean, I can't reconcile it, okay, and then it creates panic attacks. And most people for years continue to have this panic attacks, because once that starts, it's like, ooh, my opticular reticular, or my optical reticular lens or whatever it is kicks in. And now I'm seeing all these things in a higher level state and it's driving me crazy because I can't reconcile what they mean. I'm to the point where I'm like, hey, I assume now there's inevitable epiphanies and paradigms that are just waiting to introduce themselves to me. And I don't know if some of them are inevitable. I don't know if some of them are triggered. I don't know if I have to earn them or I don't know if they come from mercy. I don't know if they come from success or for being broken into the dust,

you know. But, re-remembering is part, I think, remembering how much, well, it should be in part, remembering how much God loves us and if there was a catalyst that separated us from that love, having the trust, right, that reconciliation and reintegration is inevitable. It serves purposes beyond our capacity to see or observe. George, I've seen you do videos with five people viewing in and I just wondered. It's like, wow, I wonder if George knows that there was two people that saw that that may have changed lives, may have eventually caused an offspring. the cured cancer. See, we don't get the privilege of being able to see all the cause and effect

of all the different threads that we're involved with. And I think the greatest courage comes from serving when you think no one's listening. And the faithfulness that comes to years is precious. Because I mean, sometimes I'll see that in certain individuals, I'll be like, oh man, I'm going to weep for that guy, you know. That guy's walked through fires and hell and trauma and created victim profiles and adopted some of them, kept some of them too long, you know, and just, it just has no idea the greatness of the service that he's doing because he was never given the gift to to be able to process or see it in the way that would let him at least have that added reward and motivation. And there are a lot of people in that, in that, you know, in that loop.

So yeah, re-remembering could be all of those things. You know, I'd like, you know, see, I don't want to believe it's, oh, you know, you just, you just, you, you made God angry and you got thrown into a containment compartmentalization thing. You know, that's the story that one of the philosophers have on the sub-Eleham, the small E in the Bible. And that is, we did something or we turned corrupt to a point that we had to live one life cycle through to actually rediscover how amazing God was. And then there's all the fallen analogies. You know, there's the battles in heaven, the spiritual verses, under the point where I've surrendered the point where I believe that there may not even be necessarily an evil. There's a controlled opposition that's used in a

multi-thread way whereby each of us gets the benefit and privilege in a life cycle that we can quantify empirically here. And there's all these gifts and precious things that come from it if we'll look beyond our own ego and our own identities and say, I'm truly going to see what life has to teach me. Because once I start treating it as a dynamic tool, it changes completely. There are a lot of people can hear that. They have no idea. It changes in a way to where it takes years to recover, depending on what gifts are basically supposed to be given to you. I mean, that's the reality. But you can give up all the fear. But I mean, I was made with extra fear. And so I end up getting eaten by things that you know, other people go, oh, why'd you care about that?

And I'll be like, because these three dimensional variables are possible because of that, you know. It's like creativity and IQ and fear have to be on the opposite spectrum. And the more fear that you carry, the higher the creativity and IQ potential for you working on projects. Go ahead, bro. Adam, chiming it again. This is a brilliant quote right here. There is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over. Boom, mic drop out of them.

Yes. Give it up to HST, man. Hunter was a genius. And there's one that went over, you know? And I think so many of us in this space, like especially the people that I'm talking to, they've been there, man. And there's no, you know, you can't fake it, man. Like you said earlier when you stare into the abyss or Mercedes-Eliad talks about

the terror before the sacred, man. There's something that changes inside of you that just fundamentally is ecstasy. And at the same time, a level of fear that makes you want to just curl up, pee your pants and like it's it's changing man whatever whatever however you want to describe that particular state i think going over is the best way to do it but what are your thoughts on that well i mean it's a few of them one of them is i've been through like nine indes three of them i'm pretty sure i didn't make it from it but my mind can't reconcile how me and you were having this conversation so it seems like reality is a bit more you know and then i wonder i'm to the point for some people i'm

like you remember a point in your life where you thought you may have died you know I only ask that maybe six times of my life, but every time, every time they're like, oh, absolutely, blah, blah, blah. Hunter S. Thompson is genius and beauty. He's often misquoted, often misused. I saw a political magazine, for example, trying to say that the time for unity to destroy all the opposition was now because Hunter S. Thompson would have it no other way.

And I said, you know what? Hunter S. Thompson probably would have been saying, it strange the polarities that you're entangling with yourselves because the people are generating are so transparent that I feel bad for you that all of you, that all of you are following for this basically Kool-Aid and that you're so easy to manipulate, you know? Yeah, and, you know, in credit to what Adam's saying there in that quote,

often there's just when you hear somebody say there's no words, there's no words, there's no words, there's no words. I remember a point, I've got a massive, my office has a recording studio, a little mini thing and extra tables and a big whiteboard, and I remember once finding myself writing, I don't need to know the secrets of the universe to know that you love me is enough. I don't need to, it was like a Simpsons episode, you know, I don't need to know the secrets of the universe, you know, you know, because in the beginning, I'm like, oh, wow, if I activate my macabai, I can do what and what this and wow, Akashik records and, you know, and I'm innocent basically looking at these like they're part of the natural process through seeking, but when I applied my mind onto it, you know, what, you know, and by the time that I told you, but the time that I'm astro projecting, it's one of the things about, about drugs and psychedelics, right? is a segue that's related.

They are so critical and so amazing, even though we've unlocked so little about them. I was looking at like the 150 can of noids and the turpines and the entourage effect. I spent the last two months really dig, diving deep with CEOs and innovators trying to uncover how I could help with policy reform, responsible legislation,

looking at the unification of federalization versus state-driven, all the ways that politicians were using it to, again, galvanize voting blocks. they would actually drag their feet on certain legalization. The way big lobbyist money was actually inserting cash in to be able to destabilize a taxation, the compliance, the investments in irradiation machines that were then used possibly targeted. The billions of dollars at large groups have the five large groups have lost billions of dollars

and spend it. Now they're stimulating price wars, which is destroying the original bond pop culture stores. I thought, hey, you know what, for fun, I'll apply my brain into cannabis sector. And I'll basically, literally, I went from zero connections. to 616, about 38 days. I handpicked every one of them based on some model. And I have been absorbing all their minds using like NLP, you know, in the chemistry of our correspondences to be able to say, can I become a force if God wants to use me that way

to where, you know, but I also realize many people are abusing the gift. They don't, you know, I mean, like right now it's on, no, we need a 100 milligram, you know, gummies. It's like if you need that, you've oversaturated your receptors and sensors to so, to such a level that you're abusing the gift and you need a reset so you can rediscover the purpose that God had for it.

And that's it. It's not for everyone. Maybe there's a bunch of people are out there supposed to stay asleep and they're just killing their minds. But, you know, I do think that we lack the sophistication, the measurement systems, especially with that, you know,

psychedelics and marijuana and cannabis. And I forgot the point I was going to make because I'm so excited to share, you know. It's all, I think it speaks to where we are right now. You know, some of the things that I see too is the way in which it gets misused, like the policy, the legislation, the legalization versus decriminalization, you know, and it just seems, it's so chaotic to me, but maybe that's the way it's supposed to be as,

as we're moving through it on so many levels. It's interesting to see what happens to something that I think is a sacrament, then it becomes a commodity. You know, and it happens throughout time memorial. But when we start commodifying or the analogy I use is when the instrument becomes an institution, it loses its way. What are you guys? Oh, there's no doubt. I mean, man, that's one of the things that I was attracted to some of your philosophies and that was observing. There are ironies to that.

Like it goes to the natural progression. Like I said, if we applied some of the highest. perceptions that we could have on Hamilton in the early days when he's trying to basically not kill people, you know, maybe that's not the expression, but to make sure he recognizes. There's individuals who can have very, very adverse effects on this and you have to be prepared for them. And in the commitment that that early excitement took in terms of actually guiding to the point where he's done about 15,000 awakenings and about 3,000 tours or some huge numbers and become, you know, and become an innovator over 20, over two decades. You know,

So there is this balance where, A, you know, I mean, the legislation craziness and the lobbyists and the insanity of Western culture as relates to cannabis psychedelics kind of represents our spiritual state of readiness. And if we're not careful, we'll find that we'll, especially if like right now, like when I watch it basically a cannabis store start attacking people based on who they thought they vote for, which happens so much in the cannabis sector. I think by nature that it was so California heavy as the early innovator. When I see the polarity entanglements they have and they're not realizing the disservice that they're doing to people from a unification process, they're falling victim to a lower, a lower dimensional tier. When I see the craziness of trying to push out like the 100 milligram gummies and don't realize that, you know, that eventually the government will kick back, you know, because, you know,

do you remember, George, in America years ago, people were using ecstasy everywhere. And they were loving it and it really wasn't too much of under a microscope. One girl took too much ecstasy and she drank herself to death. She drowned herself to death. And that was in the news for months. And that was used as the crying, you know, as the war cry to be able to step on ecstasy so much that it changed the climate of how people used it, how it was accessible, how it was treated. They reduced any normalization that could have happened that would have allowed you to elevate,

you know. And that's the same thing with marijuana. You're dealing with all these people that believe culture spurs. I believe home growers, you know, but even them, like I've noticed a trend where these growers basically been overgrowing and they're finding that there's not the demand through the retail stores. And so they're literally choking in their own product. Then you end up with mold as they try to basically survive. And then suddenly batch testings creating mold indications are being shut down and are going,

how did this happen to me? Well, because there's the lack of regulation, the lack of leadership, VC companies trying to commoditize it, your big pharma. Like, for example, Canada shouldn't be the number one exporter of marijuana, right? America shouldn't have federalization that, you know, that tries to restrict it. You know, America is like from a global reset perspective, a think tank went through and said 385,000 product niches and consumer interests that we can actually apply pressure to. And we can do the exact countertithesis or whatever to it, you know, to be able to destroy it.

And we need to because on a global set basis, their economy is such a runaway situation. It's going to destabilize the rest of the world economies, their entitlement of life is really high. we need to basically do some engineering here and spread that wealth, even though by the way we do it, it's just going to reward our own corruption and the problems are going to get worse. Plus, we're going to dismantle all the companies that had them under to fix the situations, handicap them, and then ruin the entire philanthropy. That's America. Under the basis of bad programming on a global sustainability and harmonization basis.

And everything's impacted. So even when I've been looking at the marijuana sector, I'm like, yeah, global reset base, global reset base, intentional, you know, intentional voter galvanization, wants to be. to preserve that state for a basically split swing, you know, vote later, wants to recover the house with those two states. I mean, it literally is that transparent. And then, you know, and the individuals really that are doing it are kind of contained, like try to reach out to the heads of Cure Leave or the heads of Till Ray or the heads of these other organizations. Now, the crazy thing about it is, is you can go, well, we know we really don't want any federalization or any,

we don't want to support any export. But we do want to be able to let the pharmaceuticals import as much as they need at the cheapest prices. Let's make sure we go back to pass along. Those pharmaceutical groups, they deserve to be able to buy, you know, 250,000 tons a year. Matter of fact, we should find the slave labor countries. We should basically send a little bit of money for transsexual operations

and then redirect that basically in slave operations around these marijuana farms. And then reimport that back for free. We'll even pay the shipping through a tariff reduction. And then we'll give it to the pharma who can then turn it into some medicine that kills your ass because they don't care about the spiritual aspects of it. But we can't do that without shitting on all the actual legitimate feet. And that's the way it is, you know. I'm streaming Tommy Corrigan right now.

You know? But again, I'm being entangled. I'm lowering my observational level to a dimensional layer that's mocking it. I'm seeing more of the picture because it's still coming from a higher observation state. But that's the stuff where you can go, man, you know, I'm one with Christ. And then you go, is that really happening? And then you entangle yourself. And there's so many of those.

God bless Jack Cross, you know, to actually have the empathy and care, to have all the knowledge he has about the symbology that says, you're protecting your shield. It's good. And simultaneously going, none of that's right, you know? Yeah. There's something about the dimension of mockery that, for me anyway,

like I default to that so much. Like, I'll just, there's hours where I'll just sit and start laughing. Like I put out a this, I try to put out all this really cool poetry and stuff. And then I recently put out a poem that was in the form of like Dr. Seuss. It got like way more attention than any of the other stuff I ever did. I'm like, I got to drop it down to the Dr. Seuss level more often over there. Dude, yeah, the thing is, and that's a great example. I mean, you know, I'd like to believe that you pinned every line there.

But if you're one of the people that views AI to elevate your writing, that was, you know, I mean, I mean, dude, brilliant, brilliant, brilliant. In fact, the thing is it was so exciting that I almost wrote counterverses to it. And then I'm like, you know what? I don't even, even though it would be funny and make him laugh, I just don't even want to mess with his artwork there. And then I thought, well, maybe if I did that, it would encourage everybody would be putting in their little, you know, anti-commercial. Maybe we could start a little meme whereby the entire thing would have been filled with, you know, Dr. Seuss-type retorts on how corrupt our system is with respects to how it perverts everything. How brilliant was doctors?

He's as a propagandist. Like if you go back and you look at his earlier stuff, wow, that guy was just a flat out next level communicator, man. Unbelievable. Yeah, I'll do, man. Yeah, the thing is, is we're not even equipped with the etymology. You know, we're not even equipped basically to take it in. Thank you, Clint, for that.

Simultaneous fear and amazement. Absolutely. Thank you both. Clint Kyle. like another Christian podcast. Everybody go check it out. Amazing. Amazing. Robert, I got to land the plane, man. I got another cast coming up here. Sure, sure, man. I feel like we're just getting started, man. So we'll come back. Maybe we could get you, me, Adam, Clint, all on a podcast together and just roll the dice, man, and see what happens. But let's get some more shows lined up. But before I lend

the plane, man, where can people find you? What do you got coming up and what are you excited about? Well, I'm kind of an transition stage. So like I'm trying to explore what's next. I do have two websites, official agency.com. I own like 25,000 domain names. And that's an example of some of the campaign strategies. So if you ever need help with tactic strategies, thinking, brainstorming, trying to crack problems.

I love working. I love basically, you know, I tend to cap out in about two hours. It's two hours of me looking at something tends to be a lot of intense intensity. And so I'll have enough variables and framework structures where people can take it and run. The other is I just published part of my private collection at 2025 collection.com. 2025 collection.com. And that is 20 lots like it's art, superheroes, some of the domain name categories. Like I have like 1,300 domain names to market cannabis, creating brands, tactics, consumer

engagement strategies, like 400 AI strategies, the applications that are, but some of them are flushed out like space league.com where I took an entire world and created it. And a lot of them represented frameworks that I thought I would revisit over time. And I reached a point. And I thought, wow, if I was to ever die and nobody even knew these existed, maybe I should at least publish them. And so this earlier this year, I'd had a couple heart issues, just the excitement of changing energy fields can get you if you're not ready. And so 2025 collection.com, there's a lot of clever art there that has a lot of hidden meaning, a lot of numerology, and as well as just some clever designs that, you know, I had done over, over decades. So and beyond that, man, George, you are a monster of awesomeness.

You know, you know, you, uh, you know, the thing is, if I had it my way right now, we would be talking for weeks. We would just go straight through in a marathon. And then we would cut it all up and basically utilize it in shorts and then just count on the Holy Spirit to deliver it to the individuals who needed to hear it for the healing. And I think that when you take individuals from Adam to Tracy to Kimberly, to Eric, you know, Michelle and Patrick and Ryan and the rest of the ones that I've seen even just of recently, Tommy, et cetera, you know, there's so much goodness just for people getting

together and sharing testimony. And you as a catalyst for that is just, it's phenomenal. You're one of my favorite, my favorite, I guess, podcasters or whatever you want to call it, you know, but it's beyond that. I mean, it's a profit in your own way and may not even know it. And so I'm just thankful for the facilitations you're making. God bless you, brother. Man, I really appreciate it.

I'm so thankful to everybody. has played a role in my dream and I hope I can play a role in everybody else's dream. And it's such a joy for me to be here, man. I truly appreciate all the participation and everybody spending time with me and getting their message out to the audience. I think it's really important. And I think that the conversations we are having are having a real effect on creating lasting and beautiful change in the world. So hang on briefly afterwards, Robert. Thank you so much for today and everything going forward.

Ladies and gentlemen, everybody in the chat who participated, I love you guys, man. Thank you so much for being here. That's all we got. Ladies and gentlemen, Aloha. God bless you.