TrueLife - Stephen Franklin - Creativity, Consciousness, & Comedy

Episode Date: June 23, 2023

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The sun is shining. and the bird is singing. Wind is at your back. I got Stephen Franklin here. He's the founder of Larix Media, video content creator, comedian, musician. Also, co-founder, writer, producer of the transcendental comedy experience,

an incredible storyteller who has collaborated with a multitude of companies such as Ben and Jerry's in the NBA. He is quite an interesting character. He's coming to us from the great state of Vermont. How you doing today, my friend? Hey, I'm doing pretty good. How you doing, man?

Thanks for having me. Yeah. I'm excited you're here, man. I was, when I, when I, one of the things that really drew me to your profile was the fact that you have this really great relationship with humor and communication. And I really like the way that you kind of fuse those together. But before we get into everything you're doing, maybe you could, uh, help me in the audience understand like your origin story.

I'm like, how did you get to be where you are today? Oh, man. I'll give you, I'll give you, like a short midrange version, but basically like, Like, you know, I grew up in a small town, 1,300 people in West Addison, Vermont, you know, farmland. And, you know, I just kind of just hung out there. And, you know, my parents had businesses. So a lot of it was just kind of on my own, in my own brain. But so, like, you know, I'm just hanging out with myself, you know.

It's like having the good brain time. But when I'm just, I'm sorry, this is instantly going to go like into a big thing. But like, I'll swing it back in. I was going back in. But so when I was really young, like when I was like a little kid, like I couldn't talk at all. Like I just like mumbled and made noises. Like I guess I just like would,

I don't know how my brain was perceiving sounds, but for like, you know, there's a few years of my life for like I try to communicate with people. And like apparently and like it wouldn't connect because they're like, what are you talking about? Like ginger ale, you're calling it goo goo goo gas.

What, like what is that? Like that doesn't make any sense. So I like, so like I, but I always had this stuff going into my brain. you're trying, you know, you're trying to explain to someone you can't talk kind of, kind of annoying. So like, you know, around nine years old, my family, we got a, we got a

camera. We got like one of those big handycams with like the big, uh, VHS things for, for Christmas. It's like a family gift. And I was like instantly hooked on that thing because like I was like, I can, I can take whatever's going in my brain and I can put it into something where I don't tell anyone about it. I can just show them. You know what I mean? Like it's like, it's like, that's amazing. So ever since that, that's going to be. So ever since that, like I've just been pursuing video through school, like high school, college, doing making videos with friends. And it's kind of developed until like where now I'm is where now I have a video production company. And I do, you know, I have Transatlical comedy experience with me and my buddies do this.

I do some lowbrow comedy stuff. And yeah, it's like I've got to figure out how I could project my brain to the world. And also there's like, I bet you can understand this of like you have the. this podcast, like you want to learn about people, right? Like, you want to like see what's going on in there. And I like, I, I enjoy that too. I love hearing people's stories. So like, you know, that love of hearing people's stories, me building like that skill of like being able to like present stories visually and like, like, and through audio. Like, I was like, oh, like, if I'm gonna, if I'm gonna have like a company that's gonna be like helping people out, like that's,

that's what my, that's like kind of like my motto is like, I will like take sympathize with you, listen to you deeply, figure out what's really going on in there, and then try to project that out from your perspective. And, you know, obviously it gets convoluted between my brain and their brain, right? So it's not going to be, it's ever going to be 100%. But like being able to just like help people who don't have that technical skill to like, you know, film, edit, you know, do audio, mixing music and doing all that stuff is like, I don't know, man. It's, I enjoy it. I love it. I love helping people do that. And so, yeah, that's me. It's awesome.

It sounds to me like, you know, when you, as a young kid, you know, you have not really, you have this problem as a kid that you're like, man, and it's like a communication problem, but you find a way to solve it. And you get so good at it, you're able to help other people solve that problem. It's like you can translate the vision into reality. And that's such an incredible skill, and especially when you can do it for other people. I think that's probably why you're so successful. And it brings me to this idea of like sometimes the biggest problems we have growing up

turn to be the most fertile field for us to grow our passions and our business out of, man. Oh, yeah. Like I feel like the circumstances of that, like, it's almost like you wonder if there's like some like higher energy out there that's like, hey, you know, we're going to put you through some stuff and make you have to deal with it. And maybe it'll give you like a path, you know. But it's like I don't like, I'm like if I never had that speech thing, like maybe I would have ever done. Like, I haven't thought about it at literally until today, but maybe I never would have thought about doing video. Like, I don't know.

But, like, I'm so glad I'm going where it's going, because, like, I said, I just love helping people, and it's just fun being able to see in people's brains. And, like, seeing things that a lot of times other people can't see. Like, I don't know, I go to, like, sorry, I'm just going all over the place. No, it's perfect. Like, I'm into comedy. And, like, when I first started doing comedy, like,

the comedy scene in Vermont, like, 10 years ago was, like, almost nothing. There was one comedy club that started up, and it lasted like a couple of years. Now it's starting to thrive. Like there's like a Vermont comedy club and that has like a good group of people and all this and comedy and stuff. But like, so I'd go to like these shows. You'd go to like the open mics and you're listening to people tell their jokes. Like, you know, different people with different experience.

You know, talent, like level of talent. And you're and like there'd be jokes that people would tell. And like I would be laughing at it, but no one else would be laughing at it. Because like I can say because I feel like I could see. like I just I see what they're getting at like I see right it's like I see the connect it's just okay apparently other people like it takes a little longer to like explain it to people but like I see I see what you're saying it's just like finding the right verbs and like you know the right words to fill in to get like the general audience who you know not saying people don't like to listen

but like you know people have their lives people are busy people they can't like hunker down and get super compassionate about every single person like walk across you know what I mean so it's like Yeah, so it's kind of good. So like that's kind of learning that too and being like, I can, I can utilize that skill and like a, and make that into a make money out of it, you know? Yeah. Yeah, that that's fascinating to think about. You know, one of my, there's this one of my favorite old philosophers, well, he's not really old, but this guy Marshall McLuhan. And he talked about, you know, the way in which we interpret media. And he talked about, you know, the spoken word, how it's different from like the visual things that you see. So he called them like hot and cold medium. So like a hot medium would be a picture or a movie where you watch something and all of a sudden you get the vision given to you. But like a book or like the spoken word, you have to go in and you have to create your own mental picture in there. And you know, it's pretty interesting how those two things work together.

I'm curious. When you're creating videos for people or maybe when you're doing comedy or maybe just in general, how do you see those two different mediums? And do you use them in what you do, like the spoken word versus like a video or something like that? Why do you use those relationships? It's all like, to me, it's all just one thing, you know? It's like it's all like sound, visual sound, you know, you make, you can communicate, you know, that you're angry by going, I'm angry or blah, like, ah! You can be like, what do you do? You know what I mean?

It's like, you don't like, so to me it's all just like, a lot of it's just, I'm just, it's just the visuals, like, you know, that's the easiest. you get the most amount of information from your visual sense, right? You can just get so much variety of stuff. And audio, it gives you like that. Like sound can really like change the feeling, the way someone, the way the environment sounds, like a hum in the background or something like that. Like it changes like the perception of the,

of what the situation you're in. And so to me, it's just like audio visual, like all totally necessary combined. And it's just like it all blends together. The words is like, I like to be able to do things in the least amount of, words is possible on my end. I like to be concise. I like to get message across. And that's why I love video is because I can explain something to you and it could take me forever. You might not

be able to pick the picture together. Or, you know, like I could go into Photoshop and I could build out this like little go to Photoshop and then these different like CGI programs and like build a 3D environment that I think was kind of what was going on in my head. And now you can just look at that. And like I don't have to explain it to you. And I can show that to anyone whenever, all the time because now it's like a, it's a, it's a thing. It's like a video file, you know what I mean? It's true. So yeah.

It brings up another question I think about, like, maybe it's because you have a background in comedy and music, but what do you think is like the relationship between like comedy and marketing? Hmm. I feel like comedy is the, in my mind is the best way, is one of the, You know, there's like there's the heartstrings where it's like you're doing like the emotional like puppies, arms of the angel type thing. But then there's like the huge and you're like, oh man. And that's like gives you like that sadness for like I want to help.

But then there's great. But then there's comedy, which is like I feel like the reason I even like got into comedy. It's like, you know, it's been a part of my life. Like I was super into like Ascentura Pet Detective. It was like my like Jim Carrey was my first like ever like I was super fan of Jim Carrey. Like just like a goofy character. but I just realized early on that like, you know, I was like the youngest and like growing up, like you need to have, you need to show your, you need to fit it.

And like the easiest way to fit in is to get, like try to think like the people, like everyone above you's thinking. And then, but also like just being able to take, take 10 situations and dissolve them. And it's like, so it's like it's like a problem solving. Like comedy is kind of can like with humor. It can be a problem solving like a coping technique, a way to like resolve situations. And that works directly with when you're trying to sell a product.

Like you want people to feel like you want to make it like comedy makes people feel a more vulnerable. They're more open. People love that feeling of like a jovial laugh is like you can't just force someone to do like a genuine laugh. You get that genuine laugh and like they feel good. And it's and that's genuine like they felt that. So it's like you mix that with that feeling with like a product, you know? Like people are going to be like, oh, I'm way more likely to be into that than someone just being like, hey, here's a box.

Like isn't the box? It's got lots of vitamins and minerals. It's like you can do that. But like, yeah, it's not going to stick out, you know. Yeah. It's a great point. And I never really thought about it from that angle. But I guess on some level when you're able to get someone to give like a genuine belly heartfelt laugh, what you're doing is your associate.

Withunciating good times with whatever it is you're showing to them, right? Exactly. And you're crossing that over. And that's such a, even though that's probably like, I think that the reason I like that better is because I go, oh, these people went out of their way to try to make me feel good versus trying to make me feel like a piece of garbage, like I'm killing puppies or something. Even though they both work, like, they got to pull on the humor string than like the heartstrings where like, okay, I just feel guilty.

I'm going to buy this thing right now or something like that. but it's interesting to think about, right? Yeah, yeah, you want to make people feel good. And, like, growing up, like, I always, like, just in the way that I grew up was always, I always put myself as, like, you know, low self-esteem. So it was like you, so it's like, I was like, since about with the low self-esteem, it's like, you're always like, everyone's better, like, try to lift other people up, you know? Like, it's always, like, when you see someone who feels bad, like, oh, I know what that feels

like, so I want to make them not feel bad. And so you try to, you know, you do what, you listen, you make jokes, you try to connect to figure out how you can make jokes, how you understand how their life is to make them understand. Because joke writing isn't easy. Like, you can have, you can do general comedy that's, you know, like, oh, you know, when I walked, you know,

what's going up in the airplanes? What's going on in airplanes? Like all that stuff, right? It's like, that's like the typical, like Jerry Seinfeld's thing. But then there's like, you go, like, you got to go deep. Like you need to go deep. And it's like people, you can do goofy, just silly stuff, which I love to do that.

that I love just really dumb humor, which is easy to do when you have low self-esteem because you're just like, I don't care. Like, I don't have a reputation to worry about. So like, I'm going to, you know what I mean? So like, which I've since worked out. My self-esteem is increasing. But so I don't even know where I was going with that. Where did I add there? We were just talking about humor in like sometimes the way it comes about in people is growing up in situations where that's all you have.

whether you're the youngest or sometimes you get beat up a lot so you have to figure out ways to tell people they're dumb without telling people they're dumb. You know what I mean? They have to like reduce to absurdity people's arguments. Oh, so what you're saying is this, right? You know, and try to trick them a little bit. Yeah, I think you're trying to make them go take an exit, like an early exit to Laftown instead of like beat downtown, you know? Yeah. That's true.

Like, right, why don't we go take out this place? They got like cool pizza and stuff over there. Before you hit me, let me just tell you this one thing, right? Yeah, please, please. Just a quick pit stop, laugh on. Yeah. Yeah. It's awesome to think about the way that is.

And sometimes I think that, you know, another part of, of humor that, that works in marketing is this idea of wordplay. And, like, you know, there's certain sorts of, like, containers. Like, like, there's one called, like, man, now I'm drawn a blank. But it's something along the lines of, like, if you use, like, alliteration or, like, something like, the butterfly fluttered by. You know, when you use words that sound like each other, but they're not quite each other, it kind of gets people into a trance.

There's all these literary devices you can use, like alliteration, like the purple pews in the church of Chernobyl. You know, when you start using letters that sound the same and flow, like that there's all these little devices that you can plug things into that will get people's attentions pretty quick, right? Yeah, it's like, that's musical. Like, I always think about that. It's like, it's what it is.

It's like you're taking the word. and you're giving, like, obviously you're having meaning with your slogan. And it's like, you know, it's hypnotic, you know? I can't even think of it. I can't think of it right now, but like, it's because I'm just like a million, my brain goes a million miles a minute. Yeah. Yeah, I always love, like I do music too.

I produce music. I did that what started out when I was in high school. I made beats, like sampling old like soul and stuff like that. And you would just like listen to those, to those, you hear their vocalizations, but there's just like the sounds. It's like a little melody. It's like a little stinger for like when you're listening to like a, you know, you start to watch like WWF or something like that.

And there's like that there's like a little woo-a-wee-o. And like you remember that little wee-and-wee-oh? Because it comes into the beginning. It's like if you have those slogans. Yeah. I feel like it goes into like it extended part of your like your brain, you know. It's like it's not just verbal. musical and the musical part is there's a different part of the musical brain correct right yeah absolutely

so it's like you are filling but literally you're filling in more space with like that message so it's like i so in my mind it makes sense like you know i'm no psychologist or anything like that but like i would imagine that like you know you're filling in in more spaces and people just love silly sounds like flippily floppy like zip zoot zivably damn you know like it's just like i don't know it's just it sounds fun yeah i think of all the little little little little techniques like by menin, you know, like all these little things are like, oh, yeah, all these little things just stick in your head, you know, and you realize, oh, they're just devices.

I remember the song by the BG staying alive. I remember reading an article on it. And one of the reasons they gave for that song being so popular, so fast for so long is that the drum beat is the same rate as your heartbeat. And so you're automatically identifying with the, you know, and it's like, oh, whoa, you start beginning to understand. There's all these relationships you were. with communication that people who are savvy about them can really put out into the ether

and be, and other people will be attracted to them. You know, it's kind of like sometimes you're attracted to a person. You can't tell why. Man, I wonder, I just, I don't know. I just really like them, you know, but it's the same thing with music. It's the same thing with advertising. It's the same thing with propaganda.

It's the same thing with marketing. It's the same thing with comedy. And if we can just hone down what are these little things that we're doing that really get people's attention, then we can really become really a, effective communicators. I think you've nailed a bunch of them. Oh, yeah. Your stuff is really awesome. Thanks, man. Actually, now that made me think of, now I'm thinking of multiple slogans.

Well, the first was one of the, oh, oh, oh, oh, O'Reilly's. I don't know what we're saying. There's one that goes right with what you were saying. Do you remember that song back of the day? It was like a one hit one, then it was like, you're unbelievable. Oh, damn, nao, nao, nao, nao, nao, nao, nao. The funniest use of doing, taking a song. This happened like years ago. I've seen this on television.

ad for this craft came out with this like I don't think it lasted long but it's called craft crumbles it was basically like little cheese crumbles that you could like basically put on top of whatever it says they put it on top of salad who cares they took that that one hit wonder took that song you're unbelievable and it'd go you're crumbelivable and then the last the last part of the slogan would be like that big cheese taste that blows you away boom you're crumbelie And like, that is like wild. Like the fact that they pulled that off and they got like crap to like pay them all this money to do that. It was like they're like, you know, we're a one hit wonder.

Let's just milk this as much as we can. They're like, hey, got to do what you got to do. Whatever. Look that up on YouTube. It's very funny. I love it. At least I find it funny. See, and that just piggybacks on once somebody has a hit, then other people can use it.

Like take that idea and make it theirs. And I guess that's why you start getting into like, you know, people start getting really mad about like patent. Maybe not patents, but copyrights. Right. Like when you hear like vanilla ice versus Billy Joel, you know, like ding ding ding, ding, ding. You know, like you can't take little hooks because people are like, wait, that's mine. I use that first, you know, and they're like using their little literary device. It's kind of interesting.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's just, it's just, it's just, it's just notes. It's just sounds, right? Yeah. Yeah.

It's like you just got a trademark on a, like, now no one can use that sound? Yeah. Like that's crazy. That is crazy. Like, should I just like a quantum computer that like makes every single like song imaginable? Like, and then just be like, oh, they're all in mine. Like, sorry, you can't make music anymore. Yeah.

You got to use it for something else. Sorry, you got to pay me. Yeah. Imagine if we patent the wheel. Like, sorry. Can't use that. Mm-mm. Only I can use the wheel.

Yeah, sorry, man. Like, it's just one person and like just riding a giant unicycle. that's it. Like, all I do is write this user cycle. You can't use it for anything else. Sorry. Man, in some ways, like, I think that that could be a problem with our planet. Like, no wonder we're, like, struggling. Like, all the ideas you have to pay for. Like, it's like you have to go, okay, this is a great idea. This could solve world hunger. No, man, I don't want to sell that to you. I don't want you to use my idea. It's my idea. It's like, yeah. It's like, yeah, it's like, yeah, exactly, which is like, okay, cool. Like, you made the idea that's awesome. But like,

do you want to, do you want to just like make a lot of money for yourself? Or do you want to, like help humankind overall. And it's like you and there's you know you could combine those a little bit. Like you can still do like pretty well, but not like crazy like insanely well, but like still be able to help a lot of people. Yeah. So it's like seeing when you see people who are just like, you know, when they make have inventions and stuff like that and they just give the blueprint. And it's like here it is. It's open source. Like it is like everyone gets an equal opportunity to do what they can with that. And it's like the people who do the best will make it to the top. And you know what I mean? It's like that's like that's like that's like,

hope at least. Like there's this kind of going off, but there's this program that's starting to do a lot of like 3D, CGI. Video games are made with this program, it's an engine called Unreal Engine. And it's like, it's making it. Basically, they've made it so you can make

3D worlds, do sit, like the shots that you'd see in any like, you know, Marvel movie or anything like that. You could, you could, if you took the time, make it in this program. And they've made it so that the program's completely free. Tons of free assets that you can utilize like materials whatever to make what you want model like you know scans of like items

that they've put in there as 3D objects and it's just free out there for anyone to use so like as long as you have a computer you can use it and then and there's no charge unless like the company unless you're like if you make a video game at the video game like makes over a million dollars in profit then they take like they'll be like okay well like we get we'll get a little piece of that like a small percentage of that it's like giving everyone there's equal opportunity to to to just show off their skills because there's like if you when you put that when you put like a price on things and it's like okay i can't pay 600 bucks for this program or whatever like that could that person could be like a genius in doing that and you know and it's just like they'll never got the opportunity

so it's like it's cool to see companies like uh like that uh epic games Unreal Engine uh it's cool to see things like that and like hopefully that just becomes more the norm like you know what I mean like it's cool so and with that with music like basically instead of like everyone being like, I got to grapple every single, like, three notes put together. That's my three notes. We're like, that's my little wang, Wong, Wong sound, you know? It's like, no, like, it's like you make it. You made your bit.

And now, and like everything's like a, everything plays, like everything that, I feel like everything in the world is just played off of itself, you know? It's like everything is a form of something that's already been created. Like that's what's the craziness about, like, humanity is just like, we've create all these things that just trickles out all these different directions with all these different influences. It's like to put like a barrier. where it's like, oh, nope, you can't use this influence now.

Like, it's like, you just, like, what? Like, I can't, like, you just perimetered off a whole area that could be, like, fun zone, but it's got, like, security doors and two guys, like, smoking cigars outside. It's like, you know what I mean? Like, it's crazy. It's ridiculous. It is crazy. You know, I was watching one of your, like, promotional videos, and you were talking about

there's certain parameters that different platforms do that help highlight your material. Instagram you want to post X amount of times a day, Facebook X amount of times a day, LinkedIn, X amount of times a day. Is that like, can you maybe go over that a little bit and talk about why it is that way? Oh yeah, totally. So yeah, like all the different social platforms obviously have their own. They all have algorithms, right? They all have their way of putting information out there and moving things to the top. Because the only goal for all these companies is to have people on their page for as long as possible, right?

Right. Like it's like that's how they're making the money. They're getting the ad revenue off of that and everything like that. So what they do, so usually what they do is like they want like so much consistency on on stuff to come out. And you know, depending on the platform, it might vary like, you know, Instagram for a while was doing where they they'd want reels. They'd want Instagram like that came out and they wanted short form video content. And that actually brought people up higher than photos and things like that. And if they were posting a lot more, they're like, oh, like this picture. We can trust this person is going to give us consistent content.

So we'll help them out by putting it out there more. So and that'll be different for it. But then recently they've been like, oh, we're switching it to where now photos are getting more recognition again. So it's like, so they're like adjusting it to see how to keep people on the platform as long, figuring out what things people are attracted to the most. And yeah, that consistency of like, yeah, there's like LinkedIn. I think I've looked at multiple articles like from,

like multiple studies of what people like just doing it, like tested it out, because they're not giving away the, you know, they're not giving away the honey, you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, yum, yum, yum. Um, so they, uh, they people figured out and like LinkedIn was like posting like something like, like, was it like five times a day or something like that. Whoa. Like it was like, it was crazy and like Instagram would be like once or twice a day.

And so I actually utilized me learning that for my, um, well, a little bit actually when I was putting out some of the content that I put out on like on my LinkedIn. but also Transcendable Comedy Experience, our comedy group, last year I spent like over the course of six months made two to 300 bit shorts. And basically, so like we'd get together, we'd film, we'd film these PSAs, we do like mock PSAs about like pass on the gas, you know, prevent a sudden shard attack, free wipes in your out,

like very, you know, very high-brow stuff. But we just would get, you know, we just film ourselves, like improv, just shoot a bunch of things. And then I'd go and I'd cut it down. I'd be like, okay, we need to take. What I'm seeing is the algorithm to make the viewership go up. It's like you need to do more of these. So like at one point I was doing up to three videos a day, but on average doing about two a day and just putting consistently, putting it out, putting it out. And, you know, like obviously some of them, obviously some are better than others, right?

Like, you know, some are just like, okay, okay, we got it. And other people are like, oh, this one's awesome. But you don't know. And so like a lot of, which kind of goes with like the confidence in yourself with like putting content out is that's the biggest. That was the biggest thing for me. I think that's the biggest thing for other people is being worried about like if I put out all this stuff like will, will I be made fun of? Or like, you know, I'll be a call a loser. And then that's the end of it.

And then like all my networking in the whole world is done and everyone hates me. And like I get shot off into space and then I get burned into the sun. and but you're like, no, it's not like what happens. Like you put out the content, you know what's coming out of your brain. It's, you know it's since going through your brain, you know at least you connect with it in some way, right? And if you can connect with it in some way, there's billions of people out there. Right. There's got to be at least a couple.

Even if it's, if it only was one more, there could be another person that understands where you're coming from. Because like we're not that varied, right? It's like we have a complicated lies, but there's, but every, Everything kind of, you know, we live in a finite world. The brain can only do so much, you know. Right. So, oh, man, where was I going with that? I lost it again.

We're just talking about different content. And sometimes you were putting out, like a bunch of the shorts. Yeah. So you put out, so you put out more content and like, okay, yeah, some of them might not do well. But some of the ones that you might think also would have not done well and you would have just skipped over because you put out another thing that you thought was better that did not do well. That thing that you did not think was as good.

it came from your brain. That could be the thing that connects with everyone else. It might just be something so like maybe the way, the reason you didn't think he was an idea worth putting out is you're like, oh, like obviously, like blatant idea. Like, why would I do that? Like in your head, you think it's like obvious. Like, why would anyone care?

But like, you got to separate yourself from there. Like maybe, but maybe people don't. And you've got to be able to take that leap to be like, okay, will this, is this something that connects with people? And the stuff that doesn't do well, doesn't, you know, it just goes away. people just don't pay attention to it. Some people might be like, oh, this sucks.

And you're like, okay, whatever. Like, random person probably having a bad day. You think this is their way to outlet. Like, okay, fine. You can use this. Bad video is your way to get it out. But the good stuff will, that'll rise to the top. Like, it's like the, no, a tale is oldest time.

It always comes to the top. It always rises to the top. So it's like, if you're someone who's, trying to do that you're trying to make content content like online and build a following really just yeah just believe in yourself and like you're going to hear you're going to hear that voice that tells you like just stop like do a ton of them and then you give up because it's not getting a response you got it you got you got a you got a hustle on it you got to like yeah like I said put out 300 and like 300 videos in a few months and that was like a hustle like going down

and everything goes all down from like 12 minutes like because my buddies would go off and like do their PSA bits for like 12 minutes, like just going off saying, because they're just making it all up, right? It's like, you know, this happened to me and then have to condense that down to one minute and make it still make sense. Right, right. Those programs, it has to be like shorts had to be under 60 seconds. So it's like, you know, you're going to have to put a lot of work in with that type of stuff.

And if you don't see any results rate off, yeah, that's just what happens. Unless you're really lucky, it's not going to take off instantly. you need to just keep the grind on, believe in the vision, and know that if you're not in the immediate results, like, don't let that stop you because you just got to have that, like, delayed gratification of like, I know what I'm doing. I trust myself. As long as you're enjoying doing it, just go for it, you know? Yeah, I think that's what translates too.

I think if you do enjoy it, if you enjoy the process of it, then the fruits of your label will, they'll be rewarded, maybe not instantly, maybe not immediately, maybe not. Maybe not even in the near future, but if you continue to do it, I think that inner voice begins to go from something that's confrontational to something that's complimentary. Like instead of being like, this is dumb, I'm not going to do this anymore. It's not working. It's being like, what if I just, what if I just rearrange it a little bit, you know? Let me just try that, you know? And I think it's a great way for you to understand your vision.

And it does help you translate like your communications skills. Because when you're editing something down from 12 minutes to one minute, that you as the individual are finding what's pertinent, what's important, what's funny, what's interesting. Sometimes you're moving the back to the front to flip it around. Or sometimes you get into a minute and you're like, what if I took the last part and put it in the beginning? Yeah, and then it hits.

And then you put that video out, I got 100 views on that one, you know? Whatever, I got it instead of a thousand, maybe people get, sometimes you get a million, sometimes you get 100,000. Sometimes you get 10. But those are all little learning experiences, right? Exactly. Like every every, it's like a little rep. Every time you're, you're making something, you're working that muscle a little bit more. And it's like, right. You're only overall, like you're going to have your goods and your bads, but overall you're going to go, you're going to be going like that. Like it's like, it's like, that 10% used to be 10% yearly. I don't know how it is now, but, but yeah, it's just like you've got to just be consistent, put it out there. And yeah, like, as you put things out, you'll learn from those things. And that critical side of your brain. will be like, oh, well, like, instead of being like, wow, that was terrible. You're an awful person.

You should, like, go, like, live in a whole for the rest of your life. Right. Instead, you're like, you train that person, which, like, that's what I had to do. It was because my brain used to be like that. It used to be like, very, like, it has to be perfect. If it's not, not worth it. You're not worth it. You're not, you know what I mean?

It's like, you're down here. You should feel ashamed of yourself. Yeah. Therapy. Oh, therapy helps, man. I recommend any of you out there, therapy, if you need it. If you ever feeling down and you're like, oh, like, my brain makes me feel like, I'm terrible. Maybe go to therapy.

Yeah. I recommend magic mushrooms for that. Like, I think that's like a great way to figure out what is wrong with you. Oh, totally. Like I just see, like we were talking about this before. I thought over here. Yeah. Honestly, that, I had a psilocybin experience that actually during that time when I was probably at my, felt like I was at my worst in my life. Great.

I know. I'm like, what am I doing? I was working a job. doing video for like a like a car dealership which is like you know I wasn't into cars but like it was like I was able to learn from that job and stuff like that I was like okay how do I don't what do I want to do like I'm not interested in cars what do I want to do as an individual and I think for a long and with comedy comedy was like was a big part of that so it was like video comedy I had at the time I had always basically using video to do promote something that I would to not care about which is cars yeah like no hey if you love cars go for cars

for me they're just point A to point B. But like it was a, but like I had low self-confidence and someone offered me that job. And I was like, oh, sweet. And actually, you know, I learned a lot from that job. Like just teaching myself, moving myself further. And I got like a manager that like a manager came in that was like helped me like tremendously with like my self-confidence and and started letting me do documentaries and commercials. Like documentaries are about like veterans and stuff like that.

Yeah. So like we so basically we were selling cards. But like we started like she and I and like the group, we started kind of like going off and being like, well, we got this funding and you're trying to make money for the, like you're trying to make the company look good. Like, why don't we go like pay, like give money to like these, these like organizations, but then make like video content to like show it off to the world, you know?

Yeah. So like, so then that got kind of fun. Like I was liking it. I was like learning all this stuff about people and it's like I felt like I was helping. Yeah. You know. But then like over time, you know, I was like, what do I do next? And, you know, and then on the comedy side, like I was trying to get into the

comedy community, like a very introverted person. And so I would drink a lot. Every time I'd go to a comedy thing, before I would go there, I would drink. I would drink like, I'd down like two vodka sodas. I'd be like, go, glug, okay, let's go. Okay, I'm going, let's go. Like, I put in a tea or whatever, because I get so anxious and I feel so out of place all the time.

Like, I got along with people, but like, I felt, like, I just didn't feel, like, you know, I'm sure everyone feels that in some ways. Like, I feel like I'm just not connecting with people. Like, is it me? Is it whatever? And so I kind of like I kind of like spiraled down a little bit, started doing drinking more and all of this. And it kind of accumulated to a point where I'm like, man,

I do not like like this feeling at all. Like this sucks, you know. So I ended up getting like a buddy of mine. He got me. I tried some psilocybin. And I had done mushrooms before and stuff like that. I've tried other things like back in the deep in the past. Or not down the deep in the past actually.

But so I took this. And I was like at my lowest point. And I remember just like, it felt that was a huge turning point, honestly, where I started getting my stuff together because I basically felt like I was like an astronaut. Like the earth was my brain. It was my consciousness, right? Like the earth was like all my life experiences, everything that I lived, like my emotional part of my brain and everything.

And then the psilocybin like it felt like only that I compared to is like being like an astronaut in space and looking down at it. Like, you know when people say, like the astronauts say when they go on to space and they see how insignificant the Earth is? It felt just like that. And I'm like, all these things that were like big deals. Like I'm looking at them as like an astronaut from space

looking at these like these problems and the ways that I react to things and how I deal with situations. And I'm like, oh, well, we can fix that. Like that's not a big deal at all. Like you made that into a lot bigger deal than it needed to be. And you're like, you're in it. I understand.

but like so it's like the logical part where that used to sometimes that critical part would be like you're terrible you're terrible instead it was like this logical part of the brain that was a completely separated from like ego and it's just like well here's what you have to do you feel really good right now there are ways to make this happen you felt this good before and it's just you've got to figure out the mental things you need to do and that's when I started doing there I started going to therapy I started going like hauling at it like just do it like I remember going to the therapist and I'm like I'll just get this done as soon as possible yeah be as critical to me as possible like if you're telling me I'm being a little bitch about something like

let me know like I just want to know and like let's get this going yeah and like within like a course of like a like so after that experience and then some of like therapy totally changed my outlook and then I is during that period that I like then I started with that outlook and made me connect with the two friends that I do Transatlical comedy

experience with now and from there like then I started being like okay I'm gonna then COVID happened and you know I the whole marketing department lost their job they're like okay we don't need people talking making documentary There's no veterans for our cars. I'm like,

but I was like, actually best thing that ever happened to me because now I'm like, now I'm forced to figure out my own stuff and I want to be able to do this. And so like everything, it's like once you, once I change that view of like I said,

I feel like, oh my God, the world, I'm terrible. And just being like, hey, just hustle through it and make things happen. Like,

everything just started, starts to, it just starts to connect. Like you're like, the KF that exists in the world. You just like start grabbing things. Like, oh,

that thing's interesting. and you grab it and then there's like you're making you're building something out of it and it's it's like if you have that outlook it makes it just changes it just changes everything it like I feel like I'm like I'm like the happiest I've been like since I was a kid I feel like and it's like I'm just is just me working on starting this business doing the comedy stuff with my friends and just like you know making it and being hanging out having fun and it's and it's like this is the life that I this is the life that I like it's um yeah I don't know where that cut where that question was No, it's the most beautiful answer ever.

And it's something that I want the heart of my podcast to be about is people finding the best versions of themselves and hearing the story of how they did it. And like, I didn't even know you had that experience. But when you, when I see, when I see you doing what you're doing, I see you excited about it. I see you happy about it. I see you putting out content that is going out of its way to make other people feel good about it. I'm like, dude, what's this guy all about? Look at this guy. He's trying to throw some beauty out.

the world. It made people laugh and have a good time to make some money doing it. Let's talk to this guy. And it's so fascinating to me that a psilocybin experience helped you get there. Because I think that if we look around the world, like a lot of people are just like us. A lot of people got up and went to a job where like they were, hey, they did it. They made a paycheck. Maybe they support their family.

Maybe they paid their mortgage with it. But inside, they're kind of dying a little bit, you know. And if I could have one message that comes out of this podcast or one of my messages would be like, you're so much better. You're so much better. If you just have the courage to do what you love, I promise you the world will reward you. If you just stand up for what you believe in

and just take baby steps. Maybe that first standing up is getting outside and going for a walk or maybe it's standing up for yourself or maybe it's just being true to yourself. But if you begin that process, I promise that little voice that speaks kind words to you will get louder and louder and louder. And pretty soon it'll be yelling at you.

You're the best, man. You can do it. And when you have that feeling, all of a sudden you start radiating beauty out into the world. Like what you're doing, man. So thanks for sharing that. Well, thanks. I appreciate it.

Like, that's very, very nice compliment. Yeah, it's true, man. That's the thing is like, it's so easy for,

like, it's like when you're, I get it, people, if people are in that spot, like I get the feeling. It's the worst. And it feels like terrible,

but like you can get out of it. And there are ways. And it's like, you find ways to work on yourself. And like I said, like, that's why I think psychedelics are great because it's like it does,

it does certain neurological things. That makes you, You can be able to like kind of step away from yourself. It's like it's like it's like a spiritual thing. It's like a, it's like, you know what I mean? It's just like it's crazy. So it's like if you can find proper tools to help you out and help you motivate, get yourself in that zone to go, you know, it's just like put the hustle out there,

figure out what you need to do and just trust that if you do it, it'll work out. And it's like if you keep doing what you love and keep with a goal of just keep doing it, like you either die. I saw I heard this, you either die or you, you know, you, you, finished the job, right? It's like there's no failing there. If you have a dream, you just just go for that and find ways to like, you know, pay bill. Like you figure, do your finances, figure out like, what do I have to do to actually survive? And then how can I use that to like, hold me over while I'm figuring out the thing I want to do? Or how can I do small, like you said,

small little steps to just be able to like, yeah, they can make a little bit doing this and do, I'm doing the side thing. But it's like, as long as you're gradually changed, like, doing stuff and trying to make positive choices for yourself, um, Yeah. It's just, yeah, it's just good. It's going to go exponential. Like it's going to be, it's like, like your return on yourself is like so much better than the stock market, you know? Like it's like, it's like, it gets exponential once you start believing in yourself. It's like, whoa. Like I feel like, like I'm so early on still. But like I'm like, I'm like, I can see like, like, I can see like five years from now. I can see what. And like, five years ago, I was like, I can see five like four or five years from now. And I'm like, not do it. Like I'm getting. I'm in the area of where I want to be. Like it's just like, if you have that vision, think about it. And. And it's just like, if you have that vision, think about it. And. And. And. And. And. And. And. Like, it, it doesn't happen instantly. Give yourself some time to strategize and just believe in yourself and trust yourself and just like, yeah, just go out and there and do it because people, there's so many people that are capable of doing so much more that just don't do it. Like you said, there's people who like to rather just do the nine to five job, which is, you know,

everyone's got their types of things that they want to do. I feel like there's people out there that are like, I don't enjoy the nine to five, but like I feel like I have to. And so, And it's like those people who feel that or they're like, I'm not enjoying the position I'm in right now. Like really deeply think about what it is you want. And what is it? Is it it an Ike guy? That you say it? Or it's like the cross between like your passions.

It's like the Japanese term between your passions and you're like your life purpose. And you find out like what you're interested in. And it's basically an overlap of all these qualities that make you find like the kind of career path that would be most beneficial to you personally. again, I just find like your true your true of morals and your goals and what you want and pursue them, you know? Yeah, psychedelics. That helped me, that helped all of that.

Yeah, it does. It really does. And I love the way you described it about being an astronaut. It does seem like it gives you a third person perspective on yourself. And once you have that, it's really easy to find the path again. It's like you're out on a hike and you've, saw this ribbon. So you went way off into the woods and then you got lost. Sometimes you take psychedelics and you get to go to the mountain top and look down and be like, oh, I just made

a wrong turn right there. So if I just double back and come back this way, I'll be right back on that path. You know, it's exactly. This brings me to this question about so there seems to be, you know, as I follow like the cultural, uh, God, I can't think of the word, the cultural expansion of whatever's happening now. Like there was like this great resignation. COVID came. It changed a lot of people's lives. There was like a great resignation. There was just quiet quitting. But there seems to be an explosion in content creators. And it seems that, you know, there's all these platforms, whether it's, you know, Rumble, YouTube, Twitter, and all these new clap or all these new ones coming up. And as someone who's in marketing like yourself,

what do you see for the future of content creation? Is it going to explode where all of a sudden, Do you think the individual content creators are going to take the place of the legacy media? What are your thoughts on content creators moving forward? Honestly, I think it will take over traditional media pretty quick. It already has. Like, you know, the only things that still is, you know, you got your sports and you got news, right? And it's like you still got your, you got other programs, but it's like they still put them up on streaming after, you know. So it's like eventually I feel like it's just going to be like instead of being stuck in like, you know, a 24,

hour time span seven days a week of where you can watch something and you got to like schedule your whole day around it or whatever it's like now it's just like that ease of ease of being able to watch whatever you want now the thing with that is like if you have so much content out there it's like where do you start you know it's like there could be stuff there could be just like a bunch of junk being thrown at you and maybe there's like great stuff that's like behind all there that you just you just never got to because you didn't see it you know because it's the algorithm you're like trusting an algorithm to give you to give you what you want, which is like kind of scary a little bit. But also if you're able to use it in certain ways of like, okay, let me narrow down my niche of

who I'm trying to connect with. Instead of just trying to connect with, you know, seven, eight billion people, like who do I resonate with? And I think people will start to be able to kind of niche down a little bit, like the type of content they're seeing. But it's all overlapping, right? It's like a network. Once again, it's like my ceiling.

It's like everything is just like an overlap of everything. And there's like, and like things pump. Like you'll feel, you'll see the, you'll see a pump and like certain things will pop off. And then it'll suck back in and like pop off and then like branches off and goes to another spot. It's like that's just how I think that's just how like art is in general for humanity. And so I think it'll just be, yeah, I think it'll be a lot of mostly just kind of how it is now, a content creation of just like it's you have these out for tons of it out there and you've got to like rely on referrals from people or right. It's like to get word of mouth from people.

and be like, oh, I listen to this, and this was really good. Yep. You know, like, back of the day before, like, think about, like, people had, like, tape, tape cassettes and stuff, and they were, like, you know, they had these boot, like, old tapes and stuff that, like, you only have four copies of this tape, and it's like, yeah, somebody had to come and recommend it to you for you to then take that and then copy it and give it to someone else if you liked it enough. And it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like,

fully, fully digitized. And so it's just like, hyper explosive. Like, it's like, overwhelming almost. Yeah. But, like, but I think it, but now so many more people have access. to doing video stuff. Like, if I had the stuff I had to do the video now where I'm like, I'm able to do animations and stuff like that.

Like, if I had that access to that 20 years ago with the same computer that I had back then, like, who knows what I could be doing? So it's like so great that like now there's so many people out there that can get all that have the opportunity to have easier access to make content and actually show, and project their brains, you know? Because it really is a great way to get your. express yourself and go out there. So yeah, I was, like I was born right.

I'm glad where I was born. I got to experience it before. There was that to appreciate how great it is now. And then also be like, what are the, what are the core things that are still like, like storytelling? Like character building, connection with characters and stuff. It's like you still need to have those core things

to get yourself stuff to pop off. Like, you know, there's people who do just make all sorts of content. but eventually you have to like, you need to be authentic. Yeah, you need to be authentic. And no matter what you're doing. And people can pick that up pretty quickly, I feel like. And so they, you just got to, you use these tools to be able to get your art out there. It's easier.

But also it's like you really got to be in tune with yourself when you're doing it. To be like happy in the long run. If you're going to keep doing it. Because if you're just faking it the whole time, like you're going to be doing that for like 10 years. you're going to be like, oh, my God, it was exhausting, like, just faking all this. So it's like, you know, and you're like, then you get depressed and you're like, I don't like, I got to start over again. So it's like, yeah, be the authentic you and put out that content.

And yeah, I think anyone has like opportunity to make it big now, as long as they put the effort in and put the time in and the passion, they had a passion for it. Yeah, I love that. I think it, on some level, it's like the great equalizer because everyone has access to these platforms. You could get downranked in an algorithm. And look, there's tons of people. You can be mediocre, but if you have a big machine behind you and people paying for, you know, paying for your ads or whatever, you're going to get noticed. You're going to get there. But I think that someone who's genuinely engaging and fun and, you know, has real ability to see

the beauty in others or has something unique about them that they're able to shine through, that person is going to get noticed. It may take 10 years, but that person will eventually get enough people by word of mouth or just enough out there where they will have their own gravity well and people will be drawn to them. So I love the fact that it's an equalizer. And I love also this idea of these kids coming up now.

Like my daughter watches some content creators and she even tries to create content where they take Roblox games and then they just dub a story over it. You know what I'm like, whoa, look is this. They're playing a play. video game on silent mode and then they create their own storyline in it. It's like that's awesome. It's so meta, right?

It's like, we're using a medium on a medium. I'm like, dude, give her a hug. I love you. That's so awesome. Yeah. That's super cool because it's like, it's like I was telling you there's like the CGI stuff, but it's like that's basically like you're basically being able to do

that with like something that like a structure of a game that has these characters. You're like, okay, what can I do with these like they're basically like virtual dolls, right? I was like you're doing this and it's like now you can record it and now you got this visual thing. That's not just you going like this. Like, hey, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm Barbie. It's like, you actually can do the actions and visually see like what's going on in your brain and be able to like make dialogue. Like, that's so cool. That's awesome. Yeah. It's like that old imagination game where like you take an object and like what can I make of this? Like, you know, you take a book. It's a book. It's a brick. It's an umbrella. You know, like, yes. Yes, exactly.

It's you take someone else's content and you just totally repurpose it into something completely different. It's like, okay, I'll take your idea, but I'll just do this. So it's not your idea anymore. kind of a way of getting around that whole copyright infringement thing. You know, it's imagination, right? It's imagination. Yeah, exactly. It should be like a compliment if like if you're making something and if someone's making something and it has a piece of something that you put into it.

Like I would be pops. Like I've got people put my music in things before and I'm like, that's so cool. Like awesome. Like that's like it's just bonkers that like to be a part of that like in that neural network of creativity to like be able to like put little pieces in there and see what other people can create them in their own minds. It's like, I don't know, I find that super cool. And just like it's just like a way, another way to connect with the world without having

to like to directly, you know, talk to them because there's billions of them, you know. Yeah. So that brings up an idea. Like it seems to me there's this new pattern of collaboration that's kind of walking hand in hand with competition. You know, if, if I'm using a little piece of your video or a little piece of this video game, like it just, it just kind of seems to me like that's, that's this new. form that's emerging and it does seem more complimentary.

If everyone is collaborating on some level and especially some of these new platforms where if you can control your own information on a platform, you can see via the blockchain, oh, this person used remix my video. Okay, then you're going to get three cents on that or something like that. That's a way better model than like trying to put up that fence and copyright everything and block these people off from here and you can't come here.

The guys with the cigars and whatnot, right? I want this guy Get him out of here, get him out of here No, like that's, I've had that same exact thought Like, where it's just like, that's what I can't wait I can't wait for the blockchain to develop enough Where it's like you're going to be able to easily be like Okay, you have this unique identifier that's your work

And if someone, and everything, everything links back So it's like if someone makes something It's like, okay, maybe you get like a couple cents out of that Like you know what I mean? It's like, but it's just a little percentage But like that in a bigger scheme of the world During that in that giant network like it's like you if you can make the connections with people and like make quality stuff like

now you just got a passive income of like your creativity too yeah and I I can't wait till that becomes like more mainstream because when that they get that the infrastructure all getting people to actually buy into it you know which is like it's slowly happening it's slowly happening right now I agree and when I when I just talking about it makes me think about the world in which we live now where you know we talk about automation and you know these giant multinational corporations. And sometimes it upsets me because I see this world of automation. Like if you take like an Amazon warehouse and they have all these robots moving stuff

around, you know, it's all mechanized. But, you know, it's not like Amazon, like Amazon's like, look, we built all these things, right? This is all our property. But didn't everybody kind of help create that technology? So if a robot comes into that in place, shouldn't everyone get like a little chunk of like, hey, man, we all built this. It's not like you get all of it.

But that's the same thing. That's the same model that I'm talking about for information, right? If we all put in a little bit, we should all get a little bit out. And if you have a little bit times a thousand, now you still got a pretty big chunk, man. I'm excited to. I hope to see that coming now. Yeah, I think it will. And I'm super excited for it too.

Like I'm already like, once again, thinking like five years in the future, I feel like that'll be, I think that'll be more mainstream in five years. And like, I'm honestly like, I just love trying to predict. Like, just like, you know, figuring everything out and see how things can move around. And like, it just makes me think, like, I'm so excited for doing video stuff and content creation then because it will be, I think it'll be so much more freeing and more just, you know, fair. It'll be fair. Yeah. And fair and fun.

Like, you know what I mean? Like, if you're making out something out there that's making people enjoy it, like, you know, it'd be good to get some money out of it, you know? Yeah. You know, you don't need it. Obviously, don't need it. but it's like if you can fund yourself to survive without having to do the things you don't want to do, like in however way that is, that's doing crafts, like, you know, whatever you do, like woodworking, things like that. It's like, I think it'll be a lot, it'll get a lot easier for people in that

respect to be able to get themselves out there and be able to make a living off of just their, their skills of no matter what it is, no matter what your trade is. Yeah, that kind of makes me feel awesome and good inside. is like imagine how much the world be better. If the majority of people were doing things they wanted to do, instead of doing things that they have to do. You know what I mean? If you start thinking about money,

like the only reason people get up and go to work is because of money. I mean, not all people, but a lot of people, the only reason you're there is because these people pay you. And if they don't pay you enough, I'm going to do just enough to get through. You know what I mean? You're paying more, I might do a little bit more.

But like, you're thinking about money is an incentive. And you're like, oh, no wonder why it sucks. No one even wants to do this. But you start doing something you want to do, all of a sudden you do it for free. You know, and that just makes you a better person happier. Yeah. I don't know. I love it.

Like, I've done that. I've made some content to people that I respect what you do. And like, I could go out there and make like a, I'm not a salesperson at all. I don't do sale. Like I'm not that type of person. Like I don't need to talk about like, oh, look at me. I can do this. Blah, blah, blah, blah.

But like, there's some like, so I was looking for people to work with. Like, I would just made free content based off of content that they had. cut it down. And, you know, and that was just, hey, there you go. If you want to do anything with that, cool. But here you go. And it's like, I didn't feel bad if they never talked to me again because I felt like I was doing it towards something that was, yeah, towards good. And it's like, yeah. So even without the monetary value, I'm like, still feel good about it. Because I just, I did something that's going to be positive. And it's like, if you keep that mindset, it's like you will eventually be able to like, people, people will be able to see that.

Like, they'll see that you're like, I just want to go out here. I want to help people. Yeah. Like the good old days, you know? Like that's what they did before, like technology and everything. Yeah. I think that comes back to you too. You start doing things for other people.

Sooner or later, you're going to be in a spot and someone's going to do something nice for you. It's like what Gandhi said, right? Be the change that you want to see in the world. You start doing that. All of a sudden, people notice that about you. And all of a sudden, people start coming towards you. Like, hey, how did you do that? Or you catch some random stranger on a Tuesday.

comes to you to make content, even though you've given away tons of free content to other people. This person's like, hey man, what are you doing? How did you do that? I think it really comes back to you when you start putting out those kind of vibrations or vibes or business strategies,

whatever you want to call them. It's crazy to think about. And I think it's a great like barometer to just be like, okay, is the stuff that I'm making, does it have value? Like I could guess whether it has value. And now I could say it doesn't have value,

but you could just make stuff and give it to people. And then if they see the value, then it'll get out there. Yeah, exactly. So, yeah, just figuring out, like, yeah, figure out what you think you're value, like what you think you can do that has value and just make it.

Yeah. Solve problem solving. It's just like just solve whatever problem someone has with the specific skill that you have. It's true, man. It's true. What's up on the horizon for you, man? You got some comedy gigs coming up

or you got some, you'd be full. focusing on the media and the comedy together? What's next on your agenda? Oh, all of it, man. I'm just like putting my hand in everything, like media, really. So like we actually my group, my comedy group, T.C., we just started a show. We connected, once a guy, once again, just like weird lives connecting is like this guy

who does wrestling. He's a, he has a wrestling, he's a wrestling promoter. He has a Standing A Entertainment in Glens Falls. And connected with him through one of the buddies in our group. and now we're doing this, we just came up with this show where it's basically like this character, this character John Keynes, who he's like this really rich guy,

goes into a town and wants to take over the town and just basically turn it into like the red light district. So he's like a psychopath, like rich man, but he's like the Joker from like the 60s. Like he carried money, like, but he's like his first thing is he wants to, his first thing is he wants to take over. this Standing 8 entertainment because the name, because the state, the word standing 8, you know,

because, you know, innuendos. And so, so it's this whole premise of him trying to take over this wrestling organization from this guy because he wants his name before he takes over the town. And so, like, that's a series that we're working on right now. We've been connecting with a bunch of people. It's very fun. Like, check it out of T.C. comedy. It's very, that's fun on there. And then we're just making other content. We got other show called Frank Franklin Private High, where I'm a detective that solves crimes while I'm high. I can only solve crimes while high because my brain goes like that and starts connecting everything

and stuff that's not relevant at all. So yeah, we're just doing different fun series like that. And then, yeah, with lyrics, it's just like, I'm just working with different companies that need help want to work on things. And, you know, right now I'm more like on social media, but like really any video content creation, really. And yeah, I just wanted to help people, like actually

reached out to a lot of um like i got linked i followed a lot of like you like this like psychedelics and stuff like that because i like i honestly think because that's one of those things where i'm like it helped me and i like it's like if i can once again if i can project that vision of like showing people how it does and i could i could help companies that can do that like heck yeah like i would love that because once again it feels like it's a it's a net positive um with humanity you know like i can you can die off and it's not like it wasn't just like oh here is how much money you got from it it's like oh that that that simmered and kept going into the network of other people and hopefully the same thing with like the creative economy is like it's still your mind it's still all a network

you know and it's like if you can keep that network of what's going on in here and you can attach other nodes from other people into yours and then spread it out it's like that's i don't know i find that i find that very cool and so rewarding it feels good yeah so yeah that's kind of like the angles I'm going at right now. Yeah, I think that that's a huge positive. You know, when I, when I look at the psychedelic community, there's a big push in there for, you know, people that are administering psychedelics to help other people. Like those doctors or those facilitators should have multiple psychedelic experiences before they're trying to help other people with psychedelic experience. And I think that that transfers over into media. Like if you're going to be a content creator,

and produce media for a psychedelic company, you have had to have, you have to have, like, psychedelic experience it, you know what I mean? Yeah, you can't just be like,

oh, it's just everything goes, wean, weo, and people's mouths go, well, like, it's like, it's funny,

like, seeing like those old, like cartoons or just like crazy stuff. You're like, that's not, that's not what happened, but okay.

Like, whatever you interpret is cool, I guess. But yeah, it's like you need to, yeah, you can't be preached. I feel like that's the type of stuff

you can't be preached if you, if you haven't tried it because it's like esoteric, you don't know until you try it what it. You can't put into words, really. It's like it's beyond, you can't explain it and have so, like I couldn't tell someone what it's like

who hasn't done it and have them know. And it'd be like, oh yeah, I could probably deal with that. Like, no, it's completely different. You're not going to realize what you do it. That comes back to comedy too, right? Like the people that can really get out there and make something funny about a tragic situation,

or people that have been in a tragic situation and found something funny about it, right? It's that ability to translate there, like, hey, I was, let me tell you this funny story when this guy raped me, you know? Or like, just something crazy, you know? It's like, you try to find a way to like, to like, like, okay, yeah, sucked.

Not a great, not fun, but. But like, here's how we can cope with that and deal with that and realize like, oh, man, that was like a, that was like a crazy situation. that was like messed up, but like, yeah, there's ways to be able to move on, you know, move on from these crazy traumas. Yeah.

Yeah, it's awesome to think about. I think that that's such a beautiful part of comedy. And just communication too. Ultimately, when we're communicating with people, be it through video, be it through song or music or just talking to one another, what we're really doing is trying to find ways to solve problems through the eyes of somebody else. And if you can communicate that to people, regardless of what medium you choose, I think you're becoming a better human being

and you're making the world a little bit better and that is what I think you're doing my friends I want to say thanks for thanks thank you man that's very kind of you that feels good awesome hell yeah it's true well we're coming up Stephen we're coming I'm saying that right right

Stephen I'm saying that right Stephen I'm sorry I yeah Stephen Stephen Stephen okay I um yeah there's Steph not Stefan like like it sounds fancy sure if you want to I'm not a fancy man but go for it. You know, I,

we're coming up on about an hour right here. And I got to say, this is, I know, it goes really fast, especially when you have like a really cool, cool conversation

and learning all this stuff, man. But I want to say thanks for everything today. Where can people find you? What do you have coming up and what are you excited about? Oh, it's sick.

Okay, so you can catch me on, on social media. I have lyrics, like on Instagram, L-E-R-I-X. The name lyrics came from squirrel backwards phonetically.

The word square, if you took this word squirrel and flip it, it kind of sounds like lyrics. I like squirrels. Check out Larixmedia.com. If you need any content made, check out TCE Comedy, transental comedy,

tccomity.com to check out if you like some lowbrow humor. And yeah, just working on those shows like I was saying before and, you know, just seeing however I can help out people and you know enjoy my enjoy my life while I'm here you know make the most of it

you know laugh a little bit before before I hit the big one you know yeah I agree 100% man really well done everybody go down to the show notes check out lyrics media check out the comedy if you need any content done I highly recommend Stephen right here he's got some awesome stuff go check out his things I mean don't take it from me go there check it out and I think just by this interview alone I think you can see what kind of guy he is. You can see what he's up to. It's really rewarding. You should probably get to him before he starts charging astrical amounts of money, you know? So, uh, oh yeah, get those deals now, baby. Right? Come get those deals. Fire sale over here.

All right. Well, hang on one second. I'm going to talk to you for a minute after this, but I'm going to hang up with the people here. So ladies and gentlemen, sounds good. Aloha Friday. I hope everybody has a beautiful weekend. Thanks for hanging out. That's all we got for today. Aloha.