TrueLife - Tor Erik Seppola - Vikings, Valhalla, & Ehsalese

Episode Date: November 12, 2022

In this episode we speak with Tor Erik, Marius, & Tian. We talk about the concept if “Ehsalese” The human condition, overcoming the labels put on us by society such as psychosis, suicide, & criminal behavior. Yesterday is the past, Tomorrow is the future, today is a gift that’s why they call it the future. Offer we are defined by our past, However it is the trials and tribulations that give us the the courage to remake ourselves into the best version of ourselves. This is an amazing story of transformation. It is a story of inspiration that is contagious! The beginning of a movement that may well take the world by storm! “EHSALESE” http://linkedin.com/in/seppola

Darkness struck, a gut-punched theft, Sun ripped away, her health bereft. I roar at the void. This ain't just fate, a cosmic scam I spit my hate. The games rigged tight, shadows deal, blood on their hands, I'll never kneel. Yet in the rage, a crack ignites, occulted sparks cut through the nights. The scars my key, hermetic and stark. To see, to rise, I hunt in the dark. fumbling, furious through ruins

maze, lights my war cry Born from the blaze The poem is Angels with Rifles The track, I Am Sorrow, I Am Lust by Codex Seraphini Check out the entire song at the end of the cast Ladies and gentlemen,

Welcome back to the True Life podcast. You know what? I know I told you that I had one amazing individual today, but I like to under promise and over-deliver, so I brought you three Three amazing gentlemen, they're going to get into some ideas about the world in which we live that share a very common foundation on which we can build a better future.

Here we go, ladies and gentlemen, without any further ado, let me just start off by introducing. I'll let you guys introduce yourselves. Please, let's tell the audience who we are. Let's start with Steve. Yeah. Hello, my name is Dion. Who am I? I'm, who am I?

Yeah, I mean, I'm this energy you can see right now, dude. That's me. That's right. Found myself through the use of psychedelics. So, yeah. Yeah. I met Stey, I'm through psychedelics. Literally.

Like, we have this group where a lot of like-minded people are meeting. And so these magical things happen. My name is Tor. And I'm a psychonaut in learning, I guess, trying to figure out what these things. these things are with like-minded soul that makes that happen. My name is Marius, 33 years old. I'm an energizing searcher. So when I took the psychedelics for the first time, I only tried three times,

but I felt the energy of love, real love, you know. and the contact. Yeah. And have to be yourself, you know. And meet your fears, you know. It's, it's like, it's like adventure that's never going to end. So I'm just vibrating right now. I'm just one frequency at a time.

Yeah. Yeah. It's interesting. What when you talk, that's interesting. thing that you use the word frequency tour like what is your idea of frequency and i know we're surrounded by different frequencies and maybe our brain is almost like a receiver just getting these different frequencies and then translating them but let's talk about before we get into these idea of frequencies why don't you give people an an overview of what it is that you do oh damn

you can take that anywhere you want to man actually i love Simon cynic says this perfectly okay I love to inspire people to do something that inspires them because I get inspired. Wow. That's a well put. That is well put. Have you found there is a certain way to do that? Like when you communicate with people, whether it's in business, whether it's a relationship with your lovely other or whether it's a kid or a friend, is there like a certain recipe that you use to really communicate with somebody? I want to know what SLS?

Yeah. He does. He knows. I may understand the concept, but I wrote that word down because I don't know what, I don't know the definition of it. I may be instinctually, you know, I could feel it or something. But what is S.LSA? What, like, what is that mean to you? Okay.

So this is going to be good. Yeah. So stoked. Oh, my God. Me and a friend of mine, we were having this conversation. We have a lot of. fantastic conversations. This time we were experiencing this high,

this vibration that was so far up from where we used to be. So it was like, what do we call this? Because we were vibrating. We were connecting. And he connected to me through poetry that he wrote. He redefined how I see poetry and creativity. And that opened some doors that led to another feeling that we never had before.

And then he said, what is this? It was a feeling. and in Hindi, feeling means esas. In Norwegian, it's Ferdalse together, Essalese. Yeah, it's so just separately simple. But it's basically when you feel like your soul is getting plucked, a string in your soul is getting plucked, and you just migrate in that feeling.

You know that you're doing something so ultimately, authentically right that just get pulled towards your future. And you're vibrating on that level, attracting more energy of that same. nature, just creating things as you go. And then as you do this, you're just going to raise the vibration of everyone around you, because the tide raises all votes, right? Yeah.

Yeah. And you feel when that is right. So I guess SLSS is bad emotion. Yeah. But it also gives you this tool that if you know that you're out of sync, if you do something that you hate, if you're working 11 hours in a scrubbing kitchen because you need a job, and you still don't see that you need to. make that decision towards what feels right, feels, not things, right?

Then you're just going to end up in SLSA, which is just constant flow toward ultimate truth in limitless love. Wow, that is beautiful, man. And you know what I like about that? You said all of a sudden you started finding yourself on this level when you started thinking about poetry. And I think about poetry. I think about language.

And when I think about real communication, like some of us get to experience it. And probably all of us have spoken to a beautiful young woman and seen her blush. Or maybe you, maybe one of you, I know I have, I've had a woman speak to me and I get goosebumps. And I start to blush. And that to me is real communication, whether it's through your daughter, a beautiful woman, a beautiful man, or someone you love. When you speak to somebody and your skin shows it, whether you're blushing or you get goosebumps, like, that's real communication. And that's where poetry seems to lead us. And like, it's so amazing that all of a sudden you find this new terminology.

this new feeling, this new essence, when you're talking about poetry. It's like the words we use have so much power that in today's world have been drained from us. The emotion has been taken out. The love has been taken out. When I talk to you guys,

I can feel it, man. When you talk about this, am I saying it right? SLSA. Is that the right way to say it? Yeah. I'm going to start using that. That's beautiful, man.

Thanks for bringing that concept up. Thank you. This just proves the point. It is actually a proof of concept because everyone who hears this knows what it is. You can't teach, SLSA.

You need to feel it and then remember how that felt in order to differentiate it. Like, what is fear? What is death? It's not one thing

that we have learned and then we have to kind of redefine what those things mean. Why do that, man, you guys have blown my mind. Like, I really feel right now

like there is the same way, like if you watch mycelium or the fungus grow, like it's growing together and building this network before it begins. begins to fruit. And I feel like the people we're meeting. Like, this is not, it's not a coincidence

that we're coming together. It's like we're being brought together, right? Like, this is something that's happening organically. And when you start defining new languages, yeah, go ahead. What was that more? It's building a tribe. Yeah. Like a tribe, like a people who basically connecting dots. Connecting. Yeah. Energy is recovering each other with those frequencies, you know. Strengthening the field. And you know what? We have an idea because we have, We have been on an adventure. Right now we're in the hotel room, all right? No, what even a hotel room?

We were given the conference room. I have this backpack with the computer in my car. And we're actually heading to retreat to kind of really focus on this energy. We have international support from Croatia with energy protectors. Like we have been open-minded like, fuck. Wow! Right now, so many things are happening and we figured it's going to be an event. So he came to this town.

to wait for the last member, the fourth person. So we've been just waiting. This has been the adventure so far. He figured we wanted to ice baiters. We wanted to go actually to swim after we had amazing food, amazing salons. Nice. Yeah, because you get this energy waves that we get this feeling of it. This all is a meaning of it.

There's a meaning and it's all right. And we've just been going from frequency to frequency to frequency. every one of us has just been in cold. Whoa, what the fuck was that? That was the shift. That was SLS. S S&S. And so we did, we went over to the docks and we wanted to go.

I was ice-baited, right? Yeah. We go through the city with the towel and just, or undies, right? I'm to this place after walking from quite a distance. There's a dude coming out of the water. Just waded and hello. And we were saying, hey, we got undressed. We go away.

We get undressed, we go up to the field and we do these Wim Hof movements. It's just making all of the energy we can. Yeah. We jump into the ocean. We jump in the ocean and go back up again and we did some exercises or more exercises. And we went in some meditation form and did some breathing exercises. And we thought this contact that explode after this exercise. So we just flowed on the skies after that.

dripping wet in our boxers in November and people were standing around us hands in pocket just what the fuck we're sitting like 20 minutes. 20 minutes afterwards we come out hands burning not even feeling cold being in some sort of a new frequency and then the guy asked us what is the secret? He was just staring at us right some aliens or something And also we were doing these really good exercises. Like what? Go like this. Woo!

And burning like that. Three people, as loud as we could, with people around us, just like, that's quantum flow exercise. That's quantum flow exercises. Quantum flow is pretty new to me. But it's a combination of inhaling exercises and yoga. and this panthesizing of this red line, you should visualize that's a red line going down to the earth to get contact with Mother Earth and a red line that goes up to the universe, so you get full contact.

We're going to visualize this and with this breathing exercise and you have inhalations, you get pretty dizzy, so it's pretty easy to feel, you know. It's a lot of ways to get contact with the universe. So I'm trying a little bit different types of exercises, and I use the exercises that feels good for me, and I try to mix it up a little bit, and we try different things. So this one was really good, so this time was really good. I like that.

I like that idea of visualization. And I've never heard of visualizing a red line to the skies and to the ground. But you know what? Just as soon as you said it, I can't stop visualizing about it. You know what I mean? I know,

I'm like, I can totally see that. I haven't told them yet, because we haven't done it yet. We're going to do it tomorrow. So we want to reach it. Spoiler alert. Spoiler.

Hey. We're going to get so contact tomorrow. I'll move by. Yeah. It's so exciting. It's pretty cool, but there's so many different ways to come, to have contact with this energy.

So if you can combine. You know, some of the good exercises, we can do amazing things because in my world is no book. He has literally not read a book yet. I've never read a book in my life, man. He's just been on the flow. Man, see, so that brings me this idea, too, of knowledge. Like so many people in all of our societies, whether you're in Norway or whether you're in Azerbaijan or in Hawaii, we have come across this. idea for centuries where like you have to go someplace to learn something you have to go learn from

these other people and increasingly in today's world the people that are teaching they no longer have the experience they're a person who knew a guy who had a friend whose dad's mom's cousin did the experience you know what i mean and so i had this idea i had this idea on a recent just really high dose psilocybin trip that you know what you don't learn from other people and like knowledge isn't something you learn. It's something that's revealed to you. You know, knowledge is revealed to you. And you can see it in a tree.

You can see it in your cat. You can see it in the person next to you. You can learn things that you don't have to, you don't have to go talk to. You don't have to go to pay a bunch of money to some guy. Like, just be quiet and listen to what the world is telling you. And the knowledge will be revealed to you. What do you think?

Is that crazy or what? No, that's spot on. That was beautiful. George. Thank you. Perfect. I actually want to say something. Please. Yeah. I had this difficult period where I have this like current, this

salt water current where I live. I was like, oh shit. I feel like going to the down to the water and ask for the power of, you know, the current, you know, to have that resilient in what I do. And then a message

came to me like, it's what I heard was like it's in the stillness of the current where you will find your strength Wow, that is beautiful man What so tell me more about that What like what if you don't mind sharing like

What was the difficult time you were going through And what did you learn in the stillness of the current Yeah well the difficult time I was going through Was some yeah something with my family like Because my father is like No, this is not a good father and I experienced that. I felt like I should do something about it.

So I called the child detective services and started a collaboration with them. Yeah. And that was like, it was tough, dude. But yeah. And what I realized was like in all of this like madness and all of the good stuff also, like all the energies which is happening through my life.

That was so amazing. So a lot of stuff, dude. But I realized that if I really find my strength, you take a step back and, you know, relax and meditate and, like, yeah, take breaks for myself, right? You need to find your own stillness. That's beautiful, man. How did you get there, though? Like, how did you decide that you, did you hear something calling to you? or was it like a voice in your head? Or like, how did you figure out, like, I need to get to this spot? Like, how did that come about?

Well, I just felt it. I felt like well I had like I feel like the current is so strong like it can't be stopped by anything and I really love that strength in what I do so I guess that was like the thought I was like talking then feeling then thought and I were asking those those questions. Yeah. You don't think oh yeah and then yeah I just felt like going down there and I felt like the current the old I have the soul. So, but like, yeah. Well, let me ask you this. Was it rewarding for you to know that you came up with the answers to a problem that was difficult that was challenging to you? And like you didn't, while you could go to anybody, you could go ask a mentor, you could go find something. How did you feel about figuring it out for yourself?

And doesn't that just allow you to know that that's your truth and that's the solution for you? And it's a solution that no one had to tell you. It's a solution that you came up with. That's pretty empowering, right? Yeah, dude. It's great, dude. Yeah, dude. Yeah, dude.

Fuck here, I think. I'm not a lot of that. But there is one significant thing, that's true. Yeah. I've, uh, yeah, luckily I have, I have a try to lean on.

Right? It's so great. Really, it has helped me to push through those difficult conversations and all those difficult choices in my life. I knew that I was not alone after I did my choices. Like, I think that helped a lot for me. And that I can be open and talk about my experiences with my friends, you know, to be totally open. To have that tribe.

It's amazing. Yeah. It's like having, it's like, yeah, it's like having more of you to sort of collaborate with, yeah. since you have met yourself in other people and it's so beautiful like they've lived their life their experiences such as i and we have that give me things to help each other with and it's so beautiful and come together you that problem i understand i didn't say you can't solve a problem from the same mind that created well yeah that makes sense well you got to break say that again i want to hear that what it get into that for me you can't solve the problem with the same

thoughts pattern and thoughts and actions that you made from the mind that actually created the problem you need to have more reflections you need to have people to spar with to get new ideas new perspective on things so that you understand different concepts putting those together word buffett says that knowledge is cumulative no cumulative cumulative I think. You know that's my Well, when you learn more things about something, you might actually strengthen your understanding of something else.

And I guess when you build that bridge and you see everything as one, that's it. Yeah, that's beautiful. I was talking with a friend of mine. And you know what's amazing? Like, I feel like I'm,

I feel like we've known each other for a long time talking to you three guys. Man, thank you for this. You know, like, you're right, right. And I was having a similar discussion.

Yeah, it is it is we're on the same frequency we're on the same level i think we're we're we what it's eslese you know what i mean yes i was talking with a friend of mine and we were discussing about meditating and thinking about things and and he had mentioned to me you know sometimes like i'll be meditating and it's like you try to quiet your mind and you start thinking about this thing but then another thought pops in and you know i'm trying to this problem, but then my mind just starts shifting gears on me. And I had told him, you know what, I had had a similar issue. And the way that I began thinking about it, the way that it was kind

of revealed to me is like this, this, when you're trying to focus on something and then all of a sudden this new idea pops and it shifts gears, like that's not a disturbance. Like that is the next thought that leads to the answer, even though it may seem irrelevant, even though it may seem like it's not related at all, like that's the next thought that's going to lead you to the answer. And like when you start thinking like that, like, oh, it's not a distraction. This is a clue. This is the next step in the journey right there. That's changed my life a little bit in the last probably month. I'm like, it's not a distraction. This is this is the next thought that leads to the next thing that's going to reveal the answer to me. And like it, when you, when, when,

when Stion was talking about going into the still water, like I felt a connection there. I'm like, This is exactly it. It's not a distraction. This is how it's supposed to be. And it just, yeah, it's amazing to think about. So when you said, I guess the next step for this, for my thought process, Tor, was you had, you had mentioned that you can't solve a problem with the mind that created it. This leads me to believe you have a very interesting way in which you look at the people

around you. Would you mind sharing how you see those around you or maybe getting into this idea of what the tribe means to you? Oh my God. That's why we had to come up with a new word for you. That's what I said. That's a lesson. We were talking about this, actually. Most people love to talk about things as if, like, I'm going to tell you how to do something because my way is the way.

But we were talking and then when you're trying to help people, you basically just listen, right? So I like to listen to people on the very, the deepest of levels because just the things that this guy, went through and this guy went through it makes you think right it makes you think oh holy shit if you can do that then what is stopping you from doing that you're talking like this so you're just keeping yourself from that just pointing out those things that really reveals that we are the same person right we vibrate on the exact same level and when when that happens in tribe where you have more people than just one and the energy energy grows right we're talking about this thing because when we were ice bathing

earlier we came up we were in the water for six minutes came up sat down meditated for 20 minutes and people who had been seen this right what is the secret so it was the thing that he needed we were just saying you know in a year or we haven't decided if it's a month or a year we're gonna have 400 people doing the same exercise creating that energy and just see what the heck happens they they felt the energy man so that's what tribe means to something bigger something really good. Yeah. Yeah.

It's the resonance between a group of people. And is it, it sounds, you know, it almost sounds like you're using tribe as a verb. You know,

like, it's like an action word. It's like something that has a positive and negative charge. And the way you guys were explaining it, it sounds almost as if it was,

I think what the right word might be, but like, I can't think it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, you catch a, it's, guys, don't tip my tongue.

When you catch a cold, you can give something to somebody. It's, it becomes, it'll come. Yes, thank you. Yeah. Contagious. That's exactly. Well, you guys seem to be putting up a vibe that is contagious. It's pulling people towards it.

And it's, it's an energy, right? Like, it's something you're tapping into to do that. Like, you already said the guy was like, what's the secret? That's curiosity in its form, right? Coming towards you guys. Yeah. I mean, when you're sitting there, nude almost.

And you're like packed up and just cozy and you're like, I'm kind of cold. How are they doing that? Right? Then there's a journey itself. Just being on that level because we, that is not something that most people do, right? Right. Sitting there being warm and cold weather after being in the ice bath. So for us, it's learning just as much as everyone else around us because I've never

experienced that before. And this weekend is basically based on that to explore the, freaking frontier because we are going to, as I said, we're going to open a freaking boil. Yeah. Have you felt the energy in your hands? You're warm? Yeah.

I can feel him tingling. You know? Yeah. Absolutely. Like I do that meditation sometimes. We're like, I'll just lay down and then I can, I will concentrate and try to feel my heartbeat through my body, right? Like you can feel it in your fingertips if you concentrate.

And you can move it. You can isolate it. Like you can move it all the way up and you can move it all the way up. And you can move it all the way. way down, move it all the way through your legs. You know, but it's, it takes a while to get there. Like, you have to lay there for a little bit. And maybe sometimes I'll start with just my hand on my heart so I can get, it's like a drum beat. You could feel the rhythm in your body, the same way you could feel it in a hall that's just base flowing through you, you know? And it, it gets me

thinking about that. But I want to go back to this idea of being cold and hot. When you said cold and you made those move like this, like that's the idea when people are cold, they're bundled up. In the same way, like they're not in a position to share. When you're hot, your arms are out. When you're warm, you're radiating heat, right? Maybe that's this idea of radiating the tribe is when you're hot like that. You have warmth to give when you're hot. When you're cold, you're selfish, you're isolated, you're pulled in,

and you're not in a state to receive anything. It's kind of interesting to think about the language there. Yeah. I wonder what, yeah, please. I made a video actually a few days ago. the journey of a thought that goes into this like how it like i see life through frequencies and if love is the highest frequency and hate is the lowest than just being as high as you can makes things a lot easier basically yeah to live yeah oh i feel like i feel like the really good

feeling like the energy which i yeah which i have now is sort of like the universe is sort of giving me so that on doing this beautiful stuff man it's like like a reward from the universe like I'm doing the right thing yeah even though it's hard a fucking hard broke his by the way he's been amazing yeah I have which day is it today it's day I think they 46 actually 46 yeah yeah basically 100 day challenge where you yeah next level shit yeah dude I started making videos like fucking open up the like fucking everything dude like been able to talk about my traumas and being able to share them with the tribe which has given me like a whole other way of seeing things because we can talk together and like stuff i thought was like uh taboo or like real fuck

yeah it was like me come together and talk and i sort of sort of opened up understandings of like okay but like in situations probably wasn't something really strange things. I do not blame myself for what I've done. It's not who I am. I am not my experience. I'm what I choose to do with you. No?

So. Yeah. 100 day challenge. It's really good, dude. Yeah. What, Marius, have you gone through the 100 day challenge? I just started. So.

They're my beta tester. Yeah. Nice. I just started. some five videos or something so you can think I have feeling of the fear of because when I was a child I was when I did some wrong things or didn't did things right I was locked in the room you know for hours so I felt this a little bit of fear because you're gonna meet your fears you know yeah you get a lot of fear sometimes

so I had it one week now that I haven't sent no videos so I basically locked myself in the room you know like my parents are like right so it's insane because i i want to do it so i've been ice batting for every day so we've been starting doing things and psychedelica is pretty new to me so for one week ago it's probably one gram and i felt this love and uh and the week after i felt this to do uh everyone have to do list and that list It's just when we're not in ourselves, it's so big. And it's just like this small. Psychedelics make me go to the fear and not fear it, you know.

So it's pretty awesome how this works. That is awesome how it works, man. That's stokes me to hear. Do you feel like the... Back in life and take the trauma and rebuild it to your strength is legacy forces. That's what it is, man.

Yes, that's what it is. I mean, that's why I went through my trauma because I'm going to make a change with my experiences from a trauma. That's actually why I didn't kill myself because I felt I could do more with my experiences, you know? Yeah, like you're here for a reason, man. Like, you know what's crazy to me?

Like, I've seen people closest to me. I've sat on the bed with them while they're at the hospital because they attempted suicide. And, you know, and all of us have probably had people in our lives that we lost, that wasn't fair, that we love. Right? You know, and it's those traumas. Like, something happens to you when you come face to face with a trauma like that, especially if it's your own life or someone close enough to you where it's still your own life.

Something happens at that point in time. where something inside you changes. And it's unfortunate, but something inside you dies. A big part of who you are dies, but it's necessary. That part must die so that you can be reborn. Because it may take a year. It may take 10 years. It may take 20.

But there's going to be something that grows in that hole that was ripped from you that's more beautiful than you could possibly understand. It's going to show, it's going to create the individual that is Steyon, that is Maris, that is George. Like there's a new part. of us that's growing and when you deny that part that's when the real death happens that's when the spiritual death happens when you deny this growth inside of you man like forget about it like every one of you must have had a horrible trauma happened to you but that's why you're beautiful now

man what my experience of this is that um you take you take the trauma and you meet the fear and you get the twice of love of the trauma that we're doing. Yeah. That's a... I don't know how to explain it, but... Wait, say that again. Can you say that again? It's a little bit difficult

to explain, but you get to you. Can you explain it from it? Yeah. It's like when you... They say that the hardest climb has the most beautiful view, right? Yes. Because when you actually confront something

and you work towards fixing it, you're going to do something that is really fucking painful sometimes. You have to do something that really shake his core, shakes the core. When you go through that, you're seeing different things on the other side, meaning that you have the love from what you actually did, but also the actual work that got you there. We talked about this earlier.

Like if you give a poor person $200 million, what's going to happen to that person? They're going to kill them. He does not know how to go in their life. He's going to be worse off. Yeah. Because if you go from one frequency like that, just fucking up there, then you're going to crash way back there. if you don't really build yourself the understanding of how to go to the next level.

You need to be ready, man. Feel called and do the crazy backflip or whatever it is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do you think, Tor, do you think that the 100-day challenge is a way of ascending that mountain in a way that is sustainable? Yeah.

Yes, dude. Yeah. Sure. So he knows because he's the first one who had consistently done all the days, right? Right. When I did it, I didn't know where it was going to leave. I started because I wanted a different life. So first of all, I was alone, and it took about 10 years.

So going through all that is why we figured out the power of tribe. If you have people to resonate with. But going through that the first time, I just wanted a different change. I wanted money because I had a fiancé, it was not a Norwegian citizen, fearing to get tossed out of the country. So I needed money to stay alive, basically. And then we got a daughter, and we had a perfect life. I was actually creating money from my stuff.

I had gone through government saying, I don't want your to be still prison. Yeah. So, but that was a long and painful and hard journey, right? So a year into my daughter's life, she was deported. And that's in the channel or in the challenge, what was it? Day 43? Yeah.

So he saw that the day of that news, the day I got the news that my daughter was going to be deported. I shared that to the camera and to the world on YouTube, right? And I did that for a hundred consecutive days. And on day 70 something, my family was deported. And I recorded that event and the feelings that I had in that trauma, not knowing if or when I was ever going to see my daughter again, knowing that right now one of my parts just died, like a freaking candlelight in a part. And I crushed, I just fell down in the airport, not knowing what to do now and then I died literally got the flash of life ahead of me or just seeing something different what I had to do it was like the universe just get that fuck up right just take some accountability

know that I wanted to make them come back work I would plan to do that to make that happen and I said in that video day 70 something that now the job starts it's now it begins I'm going to create this. After that, I didn't see the power of what happened to be 100 day challenge because I didn't see it as the tool. It was just a way for me to journal just to get my thoughts out there, almost like a tribe does because you're going to learn it twice. If you teach it, you're going to learn that thing twice, see it from different levels. Yeah. And now we have this theory that. We're still trying to build up the concept. Like 100 days, you can have 10 tasks or whatever goals you need to go through divided by the 100 days you're going to do those hard things with the

accountability of the tribe making sure that you do it and you have agreed to it which means that if you don't you're going to feel physically ill and then you're just getting pushed to do it yeah like group of pressure yeah and then you know after the 100 day challenge has been met like after you're done it's going to be a habit to just talk about things you're going to have a way better way of communicating with people because all of a sudden talking in public is no problem. And you're going to meet a lot of different people because you putting that out into the universe

that you can bring it back to you. And you're just learning as you go. It just never stops. It starts a journey for yourself of self-stuffer. So if that journey is customized, like we know if I show you the alchemist by Powell Guelow, right? Right?

Yeah, just shedding those seeds that you know is going to impact. And then just continue to do that a few hundred days, dude this is day 46 something and we're not now met for the first time ever live today I picked them up on the airport earlier we were waiting for the fourth number and we're going to go out to retreat that we're just going to create yeah oh dude yeah it's like it's like whoa I felt it like I've started the trip like I have it's like yeah there's been so many essential points during this night that is so insane It was like S&S.

S&S. Yeah. Eslessa, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm excited for you guys, man. It sounds to me like you're on the cusp of continuing changing your life for the better

forever, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Right? You'll always be better, dude. Yeah. I'm going to go treasure hunting with my kids in Egypt because I don't know if there's both there. It's going to be a good.

Right. What, did, did your, did your daughter, is she going to be, is she able to come back into the country or like, I'm going to be a reunion? You did. I got eight months and 12 days later. I got, okay. I was dying inside. I'm like, I got a note. Did you come back?

You know, like, I had four million dollars in debt at age 20. Okay, let's talk about that. Like, how did you get there and how did you get out of there? How did I get? No, I, when this happened, I was, um, It was a drunken accident. It's a long story, though. Yeah, we got time, man.

If you can share it, we got time. What do you guys think? Okay, this is going to be... For the first time ever, I'm going to try to actually consciously think about making the point of telling the story. Jesus Christ. Okay, so I got a blood clot in 2005.

I was basically stopping for doing it. I woke up in the bed, and my arm was 11, 7 meters, larger than the other arm. So something was weird. I had sex in a different time. position. I thought that might be it, but then it turned out to believe the above clock. So 14 days after I saw that this was happening, they figured out, we're going to check it out. Because the doctor was like, it might be a dick, actually. Or you might have the flu or whatever else

explanation they tried to just toss at the problem. You might have a diagnosis. Yeah. All that shit. So 14 days afterwards, I was sent to the doctors. experienced person went by a certified doctor, not just an overweight one, or an overweight certified fitness coach. We're going to get more. But he knew what was the problem because he had seen that throughout his like 40 year career. So he said like, that's what I get him the fuck to the hospital. Yeah. And yes, 20 minutes later, I was on my way to the airport because they had booked this tiny plane for me. And on my way to Oslo Hospital, where I just figured out that this is going to define my life forever.

And I fell into victimized mindset. Because I lost my degree, my graduation while I was in the hospital. So I never really continued school. This mentality got me to drink a lot. And people were just like parties at his place, right? Every day of a week. And that just led to new bad choices, less consequence, consequential thinking and all that stuff.

So I ended up talking to different people that was not too good stuff. Yeah. All of a sudden we tried to score a PS4 because he wanted one in the middle of the night drunk. We couldn't. And he said, I'm going to just go over there. I said, I just got this thing. It's at home. They don't sell it there. I know this perfect. But it was not an issue. Well, it was not an option to not do what he had planned to do. And I figured, all right, fine, I'm just going to go with it. So then he's starting to plan. How can we get the cops out? or we can remove the SIM card from the phone that called in the death act like fatal accident in the next municipality over and they have to send all forces right helicopters and all that's right i think they almost fucking send tanks like it's insane everyone went out there because he painted a horrible picture which is a horrible act in itself to have that yeah yeah right but you know when you're in that mindset you don't think about consequences you're just the freaking monster that things in one way one frequency very low right but it ended up with us going over to the mall to try to get into this because the store was inside of the mall and i figured there's not going to be a piece for theirs or um

or ps3 so i'm just going to sit here i'm going to wait i'm not going to do shit just sitting there drinking and smoke and then he comes back around with a can of gas that he throws it towards him what i didn't see was that the lid was off so the gas sprayed all over the place and i didn't think A lot back then. So I figured how cool it would be to just lit this little puddle on fire to see how it burned And then it burned a lot and it exploded. So we just ran the panic took us We ran through the city and then around the block and then I just lived right outside But then as we crossed the corner you see this orange hue over the entire middle part of that area And we got a little panicked so we went home and figured out we're gonna go back and check it out

because that's almost smart. And especially with a sweater with my name printing on it. You know if you have that ego thing, I'm going to show them who I'm what I'm called actually. It's yeah. So we went back, people remember the name because they have very special kind of last name. Sepola is not something that everyone is called. So this fireman sees us. We first see the fire, which is so huge that we know that that was not just a stack of pallets. This is kind of bad.

And we decided to go back home. And then I woke up with the most fucking intense hangover from Nottom. And outside were two uniformed individuals and they wanted to talk to me. So I went back, I went with them, panicked down to the police station where they said that, we know that you were at the fire place last night. This was my first offense. So a long time back and forth, I've seen TV, I know how they're. TV. I know how these interrogations work. I'm not going to say she is. I'm actually going to be

mystical. I guess those with experience can see that. They have that frequency of a bit above. So they see those things. And so they kept pushing. And my mom came in as like the supporter. And she said that, you know, this is going to be painful no matter what. Let's just realize it. isn't it better to just try to alleviate the pain by just telling it as it was? I was like, that's a big ass, Mom. Back in, and by this time, I had received a hamburger because those are good leverage. I was sitting there talking to him, he was smiling a little bit, and then he's like, almost, did you do it?

But yeah, I basically laid my cards on the table and I just told my part of the story, right? I tried to just say, okay, this is what happened. I was it. And I didn't try to include him, but we were two, so we were kind of obvious. And they were spreading all of these details, me being the first time in interrogations, I figured I'm just going to have to do it some way and just try to get this done. we ended up in president and then for some reason he was released ahead of my time because he didn't tell the truth right as they knew he was still kind of innocent because they didn't have any evidence that he did anything

and he hadn't spoken and there was no evidence saying that he actually did any so he was released ahead of me and then i was like that is some freaking jury system the law around this is just amazing I was released and I had learned how to burn people with acid in the prison. So I had gotten what I needed to dispose of the human. That was where I was. And then I got a good way of the distance. And I was like, what the what are you thinking about? Because I just came out of prison.

But I was at that frequency. Yeah. But then I had a second thought. I drove back and I knew that this is going to do some shit. Now I'm a free man. Everyone knows that I torched the only pub in town, which is not a good thing in Christian Belt. They got pissed. People started to shun me on the street.

And I was going to buy beer. And this cashier says, thank you for burning my business down, bitch. I was like, that was the first. Right. And the entire national news had told everyone that I was going to be a debt victim for life. Right. My lawyer told the frick to use them from it. Are they supposed to, is that illegal?

No, I don't think there is. But I saw my life unfold on TV, basically. That is a huge perspective. Wow, yeah. That is just like, hmm, I did that. Oh, that's interesting. But then I started to hang out with different people again. Bad people.

I just came out from prison. Now I was a criminal, and everyone was seeing me as well. So I started to hang out with people, and I figured I'm going to get it. hefty fine for this or prison or whatever i had to get settled i didn't get my graduation as planned so now i have to figure out some way to do something let's become a robber you get such great ideas when you're down there so that's what i did and we planned and we did and hurt a lot of people or three especially because we robbed three places and at the second one as though the fear of doing the first one was intense enough. I mean, you're trying to put yourself into a character of something

that you really don't want to be because I think, theoretically, that if you're doing something you know is inherently wrong and bad to another person, you are going to feel it and I have to struggle through to do it. Almost like trying to become better, you can actually strike to comfort. You can cross boundaries in the negative as well. So I went pretty far down. And I told this taped up woman that I know where you live while I'm pointing a gun in her in American in Norway with the fucking ski mask on. I know that that hurt her bad and I hate it because this was not me, but although it was me, right? And I was like, well, this is just who I am. Then if you accept that, it's horrible. So I felt bad and because of that, things kind of shifted as we went through

this. And I helped with another robbery, number two, which was easy. because now we knew kind of what we were doing. And it was in morning, right? It was a bus driver alone. So we planned this to be as cruel as possible, almost. When we did that, we figured we're not going to do it as our own, so we actually paid someone or bribed someone to do it the last one for us. And he was just with us for his dependency.

That is important, like using people for their limitations. Right? So he did what? out of desperate means, like he owed us money, and we were those people who were just like, well, then you're going to do something for us, right? Now I understand how it is to bring that. How that escalated. But luckily, after we tried all these criminal ways of getting money,

I was driving my ex or my current girlfriend, my Dan and current girlfriend, to the bus stop. And as we stopped in the ATM to get money, I said, look at those fucking fools. Like there's a cop car on the bus station. Like if they just knew what was right here Fucking losers Right?

Yeah She's getting money And I'm rich Like I'm giving my mom $500 just like here you go mom Right That kind of guy Right

And I let her take up money And I just had so much fun over the cops Seeing right there The irony of the situation Then I ran around the corner The bus left and I had to chase him down Then I saw this car following I was like, huh, that's interesting.

Like he has the same, like he's in rush just like me. Maybe he's also going for the bus station. Then he did that for every overtake I did. And I was like, that was it. That was cute. But now I stop. I get to a bus, like a, just a bus stop. And within seconds, there are, God knows how many cars.

I think like four cars just swarming that spot. And out comes people in like black policemen in this SWAT outfit with MP5s, helmets, everything. I was like, ooh, it is doughnut, right? In shock, I'm just continuing to hailing the bus. And then my girlfriend comes out, and I just try to say goodbye, right? Give her a kiss, like nothing is going.

It's like sitting in the fucking kitchen table with a coffee saying everything is fine, but everything is on fire. Right. And shortly after they tossed me up against the bus, handcuffed me. I said, I'm going to call you as soon as I can, my girlfriend the entire bus is seeing this she has to be on that bus for the entire length home

which is like two hours i can't even imagine i can't even imagine so i was tossed into prison thank god because now i had been challenging my lower frequencies so far that i was not seeing any limitation it's almost like the exact opposite of this it is exactly the opposite so i saw that i was capable of anything which is scary I mean people are made songs about this there's a monster inside of me I let never let you see I can't so you won't control it it's like it's always trying to get out but then if you accept that it is there and you've been there you know that is there you know that yeah you went through a journey together you can sit back you know we got this set confidence going through the ship and I think there's a lot of

different kinds of shit but in prison I was in isolation for seven months they actually got me in there for like a first seven days into the drunk tank did not know what day was was standing on my head singing the national anthem i got crazy yeah and then he tossed me into the cell being benevolent at all saying that this is where you're going to live for the foreseeable future for 13 days because that's what they applied for 13 days complete solitary confinement no visitors no no letters no tv media and not just be there right all right and actually it was 14 days and then at the 13th day they just applied for a new state and they did that every time because it was legal to go over 14 days so they made sure to just over loop it there was like this

loophole in the law saying that if it was separate ones it's not going to count as one state so i stayed in there for three months and that kind of fucked me up royally so i started to draw everything i saw and i started to think about how i can release my body weight on the sink in all those crazy thoughts that i never had before. And I'm jealous, sickingly jealous. Like I think of everything that my girlfriend is doing with another man as I'm in this cell alone. So really creating my own pain and reality. So after three months, they were going to let me out because now they had received a lot of evidence, basically convicted or arrested 40 of my friends saying that I was a leader of this criminal fucking losing. Showing this in the national paper with like 50,

or 20 or 50 a lot of people 41 called in this paper on two pages all the black but this person was from here this age blah blah two of them were read and they said that one of these 20 year old sat fire to them all right was supposed to be anonymous but everyone at that time knew exactly who that was so they could just as well just a picture a name how i eat and shit every morning very clear right I saw how my reality shifted every day because I was waiting with something I never knew was going to come. I could try to just live in my brain, seeing where I could go, but it would never change because it was depending on what they would allow me to do, right? Yeah. So I went through a lot of things and tried to become what people say that you have to become in prison.

You have to become this hard person that's not going to back down and stuff. And that made me try to be someone that, again, I'm not. which I guess just got things to the next level, right? There was a lot of things that happened in that prison, and I feel, I know that right now it feels weird talking about it because I've never shared. This is actually a new shit from me. Okay, so in the prison, people were of all kinds, right?

This was a maximum prison system. And we were just locked in this place, because after seven months, I figured I could start to see people again, and I got into this genpom. One of the three people in there had a razor blade in his mouth that he had practiced shooting out of his mouth because his Iranian uncle or something or father had taught him how to protect himself in those conditions.

Just knowing that that dude was going around with razor blade in his mouth, it did something in the mouth. And then knowing what other people were in for, like horrible. The people you see in the news were sitting and eating lunch with it, right? And I was just going through what I could, we had a good relationship with everyone. And it was just our reality. We had to adapt that environment, right?

So I took up studying. I started to read Harry Potter to get out of my head. I started to just do things to live another place. And then the trial comes up. And there they are, everyone that I hurt, everyone that I put through all that pain, my ex sitting there on the stand with the father behind her, a MC leader from the west part of country.

Like last time I saw him, I was basically asking his daughter to date her. Asking him if it was okay for him. He was on a motorcycle party or a festival with all of his charter. And he was the leader. And as I asked him, how are you doing, right? Trying to open the communication. He said, this guy should have been buried and killed right now for what he did to his daughter, to my daughter.

There was a lot of people there. And I say, I agree. And I should have brought trouble. Because I kind of knew that I was going to be fucked either way in that situation. If I tried to just be as positive, I guess, as I could. I had no understanding of what I have today. So I just tried to do what I felt was best. And he said that it requires something special for you to come up here,

knowing who is here, to ask again to date my daughter, who you put through hell when you went to prison the first time. And how jealous I was at her and everything that I did. So when I was in prison, I was jealous and I burned that right out. When I came out, I was a different person, not jealous anymore. So I met her and wanted to continue what we had. But then I got into the whole robbery thing, went to prison, and now his father has all bad experience.

So it was a tense situation, seeing how she relived those moments, how she broke down, she was accused by the defenders or the attorneys. whole shit show. And this happened for all the victims. After that, I figured I'm never going to do this again, ever. And I put all the cards on the table. I said that I'm going to explain my part of this and nothing else. That's what I know.

That's what I'm talking about. And then he's the partner, my partner's attorney, start to say, can you deny that my client had anything to do with this? Like these murder spree or this robbery spree and all these crimes and all that stuff. And I said, no, I'm going to have going to. I'm not going to deny or confirm anything. I'm going to take responsibility for what I did and tell it from my story in my point of view.

Because I actually feel it's kind of a dick move to put me on a stand, literally put me on the stand, made me decide if I was going to throw myself under the bus for him so that he comes up, Scott Free. While he was also the one initiating a lot of his action. So I had told him my story. It was like four or six, between four and six days in this courtroom.

And I was just being there every day, going through every single detail of your life and more. Did you masturbated this tissue next to the bed? I don't know. But things that has nothing to do with the case. Yeah. And when I got out, I swore that when I got, actually, I'm out of the mountain. And we got home or back to the prison from the courtroom. He saw me as a snitch because I had told something that was not his life.

and he actually had to either fabricate a story where he was not part of this telling you a completely different narrative or trying to just admit what he did and say and collaborate with the story so that people know the entire hatred right you have those we call those s lessa intersections you know you have a choice and you need to do it but it's going to be tough it's going to be you accepting something different but he did but he was pissed because now he had three years in prison himself like me, right? We got sentenced to three years and I had been in prison for a long time already because you know, by now I was a working criminal basically. So I was in prison from eight 2008 to 2011 and then I started this journey where I tried to just create my freedom. I swore I was

never going to go back to prison and I wanted to create my own freedom because I had blood clock still. I was still victimized basically. But then I go and I meet this girl at a job that I got and we get a son at like long sort of short soul-sucking job. There's actually not a lot to say about so long-sucking jobs. Factory, factory jobs, you know what it is. Like you don't have to. Yeah.

So I met this girl. We had a son and he changed my perspective because at this time I was a sex chat operator. Oh my God. See the darkness of that son in the internet. I was in the company that has a whole bunch of female profiles and they will. Basically, chat, regardless of sex or name or actually identity of this person, they will chat with people who have paid to chat with that person. It was a horrible world.

Seeing people being in love and wanting to meet a fictitious person, and your job is basically to deceive them. That is literally the dog. So I was doing that, and then I got my job. And my son trying to make my money streaming and YouTube in creation, all that stuff. Got my son and saw that, I can't do this. I have to do something else.

And me and his mom split up and in the coverage or in the severance, as we divided up the things after the relationship, she got me four to six tickets to a festival. And I figured I needed to have a break. So I went to that festival as part of those tickets, met my soul friend, the love of my life, Michelle, and had a daughter with her. Just that alone, just that festival cannot be described in less than a book because it was a dent in the universe, love is first at first sight, and a whole bunch of things that just

Concludes and Basically what is it confirms that all of this is a thing when you're doing these things you're going to lead to new things that's just going to continue evolving, right? Yeah, that festival completely changed my view of life, but they got deported and during that time I found psychedelics I found quantum physics and epigenetics, I studied how to improve myself, try to get them back, set goals, try to help as many as I could with my experience, learn marketing, sales, was working as a coach for different companies and then figured if I can do all this, learned all the things within sales, advertising, marketing, all those things before. Why can't I use that for myself?

But what do I want to do? What do I want to share, right? That has put us up to this new path, meaning like-minded people, developing SLS, the whole thing that we're doing just creating something so unique that people cannot really put him in the into words that we have to invent our own inside of like this legacy forge we call it the legacy forge where you come in and you use your path to create your strength from past or pain to power warrior warrior and just all these mess to message that is the one that is everyone.

Yeah. It's insane. That is the cliff notes of the journey, I think. That is the first time I've tried to be that detail. Man. That's an amazing story, man. Thank you for sharing it. I feel like I get to know you more.

And I'm glad I don't know the old tour. That guy was a piece of shit. See, that is the beautiful thing about it because I started to document my journey. the 100th day challenge. After what I just shared, the journey is documented. Yeah. I've documented everything since that moment in time in 2018 and 100 days and the journey and everything that happened afterwards. Okay. So I've I've learned something from that story. And I'm curious. Like that is such an amazing transformation. And it's first off, it takes a lot of balls to share that. I'm truly thankful for that tour. That's a cool

it takes a lot of courage to be vulnerable like that, especially when you have come from a place where vulnerability was probably looked at as a sin or weakness. Yeah, I can hear you, man. I can see the strength in all of you guys, and I admire it. But the true strength is being able to look back at the past

and seeing this thing you thought was strength wasn't strength. It was the illusion of strength. And in fact, you were trying to chase strength by being this person that you were. weren't, man. But you have something to, you know, and I see this in a lot of people where even some of the people who play the role of the worst criminal, they have this ability to look into the souls of other people. When you were in your criminal phase, you could probably

see vulnerability in other people and you exploited it. But it seems now you have the ability to see this thing in other people and build upon it, right? To create, like, and you know what that is? Like that's that ability to see that in other people is because you can see it in yourself, man. And I'm so fucking glad that you have become the person you have. Man, that takes a lot to do. Most people can't. Most people get stuck down there. And when you say things like, look, the energy down here, you can push yourself down and down

and push yourself up in a, that's something that only someone who's been there can do. Yeah. I think that the people who carry the bags need to do. to do it because they have to give the tools to all this, you know? Right. And can you see the bags you've been carrying Mars? You were locked in a room and all of a sudden you are starting to see the very foundation which you came from.

You're starting you, Mara, and what I've heard from you say, you talked about growing up as a child and having this trauma and then recently, hey, I've locked myself in this room. You're beginning to see the patterns in your life. Yeah. And pretty soon the next step is you're going to be able to see all the things that happened to you in the life. of other people and you are becoming the guy that's going to have his own group of people and you are going to be the leader.

You're going to be the teacher. Like, I can see what you guys are doing, man. I can see what you guys. It is. It's challenging, though. You're an amazing guy, man. You know what happened here? You know what they tried to explain in the secret and all those things?

Right. You've just seen it happening in this podcast. Les Howard just explained all of it. It comes from being open, I think. And it comes, it's hard. It's, okay, so in the beginning of the conversation, when you, when you were, when Steyan was telling his story to her, I saw you reach over to him and say, it's hard, though. It's hard, though.

Like, I think that it's very difficult to maintain. And it takes, it takes a lot of, um, discipline in order to maintain where you're at, when times get tough and they will get tough. Like, what are something? things. Yeah, right, that's where the tribe comes in. What are some of the challenge, have you ever found yourself in some challenging time since you've begun this new journey, Tor. And you've, you've, you've had these old friends. I'm sure that it's points in time, the, the dark night of the soul creeps up sometimes or you have old people that try to suck you back down. What are some strategies that you use in order to maintain a higher consciousness? I think that is really deceptively simple. It's accept. Basically, except. Like, if people come, when you, I guess when you get through a certain point,

you're going to transcend the material. So it's not going to be a thing about where you're going to live. It's not going to be a thing about how are you going to get around in an vehicle or whatever. I think it's more of a physical energy as lower, the lower you go, right? Harder to move. When you get up, the energy gets lighter. So it's a lot easier to see the actual problem because all the other problems are way. There's not a hundred problems at once.

There's just a few you can kind of prioritize, right? And when you do that enough, I guess you get really conscious of this energy. Like if you feel that dissonance or we're not harmonizing as well anymore, you're going to be able to see like, okay, I need to make a decision. So last time, there was been a lot, actually. Me and the girl I met at the festival, we have split up. We're not together right now. Although I love her and she's a part of my soul.

And she does that same with me. We're not together because we're trying to redefine relationship. You're trying to see that it's possible to live a life in SLSA where you're completely free and the person you're with is completely free. And the reason you're together is because you both choose it and it's the best option of all the options. But if you want to go and do something with someone else, be free. Go ahead. Because I know that you choose me at the end. And if you don't, I'm okay with that.

But it's coming to that point of saying I'm okay with that. Like I we broke up because of this energy words completely different frequencies on some levels, right? But we connected really well in others. So it's about what do you really want when we had to go in there and I had to take this conversation. It was like biting the bullet. They were saying, listen, we have to talk about this. This is not benefiting any of us, right? Both of us are being dragged down and both of us should be free.

So how can we fix that? And then it's like, well, for me, is this, this, this. for me is this is this is this and it's like okay are you willing to go on a journey do you want to try to fix this although the answers can only come from within right and then just going on that discovery wanting to make the journey and then as you go I guess more love is just overshadowing things so the hard thing it's like ice bathing it's hard for the first seconds but if you go through it you're in it then it's just right away it's the same thing with everything is just what consequences are you willing to accept for doing those choices?

Yeah. Yeah. And then when you do, you know that you see most likely that the reality that happened as consequence was not the reality that you created trying to imagine the solution or imagine the consequence before it happened. So it's accepting and just be here. Right now, everything is happening is that we are having this conversation, right? Yeah.

Yeah. I recently have some have had some experiences, you know, I'm straightened up my life and like making up for my past. So I've had some difficult conversations to make. But I felt it was really necessary, you know, to really get. Yeah, get further in my development. And I was like, oh, standing for in front of the call. I'm like, oh, no, I don't do this, track, metric for long time. It's like, it was like, it was so, I felt. I felt. Like so much fear, even though I knew I've been in these experiences before, and I knew on the other side is what I want, you know? But fear is still theirs for some reason. Yeah, I had my trap to lean on. And I also, you know, yeah, I was like, yeah. Yeah, like, yeah, you're transformative. SLS.

Yeah. Hey, Stian, I got a question for you, Stian. How do you think you would have reacted? had you met Tor 15 years ago and you met him. Wow. Oh, yeah, like the old Thor? Yeah. Good question.

Well, you know, yeah. How would I, well, you know, I was like five or six years old, but I would probably like, yeah. If you were your age now and you had met the old tour. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would, you know, from where I'm now, I would probably see that he's troubled somehow, you know. and I've come to the conclusion that it's not people's fault for being or becoming what they are, you know?

So from this perspective, I would not have judged it. Because people are not their actions. Yeah, they're not their actions. Or there, yes, the experience that you go through, but what you do with them is what up to you, right? Yeah. Being able to see that people can change. Yeah. That's a good answer.

That actually brings me to question. What part of your shift would say, it's like that. I've had, though? Yeah, dude. That's a good question. When I lost my daughter, I experienced something completely different. Never, ever seen something of that nature. So we got me kids once more, because I didn't have those thoughts.

Got to meditating and through meditation, which I also documented the 100th day challenge. I found one thing, one episode. I don't know which one is. But I go into this really deep meditation, like a long one. And I went on a very, very, very, this. and emotionally heavy during it. And I went from me and just visualizing as far as I could out of the universe, and then as I went, less planets, all of a sudden it was just this black to white line.

And all of a sudden I was back into another universe, which was negative of what I just came from. So I went back into myself from there, and then out myself, and into myself, and then all of a sudden I had created this multidimensional snowflake in my head as a Pixar movie, which doomed out into a drop of... air, which then did this Pixar thing where it just went up to a whale, which turned into an eye, and then pop. And when I got out, I was sweating. I was hard to breathe.

I was really shook because I was like, what though? Right? And that got me thinking that this came from something that I really didn't consciously think about. So I started to investigate more, how can I get deeper? And I found the Silva method. And I tried different meditations. and I tried to win half and I read books and took courses and all of a sudden I found plant

medicine like cannabis and was able to get even deeper and there was something in it that was that is not what I've been told I said I'm supposed to eat the faces of the neighbors right now right so it kind of shook me to the core it's like this is not what the reality I had been living in was like and it got me more interested got me into reading about psychedelics and I tried LSD I had been by the then I had read so much that I knew a lot about my mind and it became all of a sudden became necessary for me to be the guide of the two experienced trippers that were sitting there who had just taken two back to back to pass who the fuck about that right so I came in there

not knowing what I went into but you know I saw that they had a good time kind of scared of and it was like wow I hope that doesn't have to meet right I was just thinking just going through all these motions and seeing what that was next day I'd call Canada for a machine that creates wool and it had broken down. So I was like, where is the manual? I got the manual. I read through it, which was insane because it was fast. I was feeling it when I was reading it. And then I was like, all right, I'm going to call them. I called them. Dave picks up and says that, yeah, not often they get a call from Norway at this hour, right they wanted to send a specialist in two weeks time i was like but i think that the problem is on the

l 205 on the back rear thingy right and i just i went fucking technical on his ass right yeah yeah and okay yeah you just do that you go in there you you're losing a little bit and then just tap really slightly i was like all right thank you that's all i did and i fixed that thing then was like that was new right yeah The clarity phase was something that I really enjoyed, but I didn't really enjoy going into it, like, and then being there for God knows how many two days, I think. It took a lot of time before I got back. But it opened my eyes to psychedelics and what that was. And I started to think that I did not use that as the other people did.

They were sitting there having a party trying to see. I went and saw things that I never had never considered. Right. So I guess, yeah, that was actually one of those. I was actively looking for the things in my brain to come from front and seed and expand and do things. And I found mushrooms. I started to learn how to create mushrooms, like cultivating mushrooms with Rishi and turkey tail and lions make, all these amazing plant-pricing aliens.

And just blew my mind. I found Paul Stamitz, which introduced me to mushrooms, Cuvensis and Similanceata, like Liberty Caps. And I found this love, this deep and intense like this love in Liberty Cap. It was something, because it was so true, it was true. For me, other mushrooms put a filter on my mind and I saw different colors and all that stuff. But Liberty Cap made me really see the person that I needed to confront who was probably over the face to tell me, now you need to listen here.

Right? Like a friend who would tell you to your face and you can deal with it. Yeah. Not standing in the back and pretend to be something else. So it was honest. I loved that with it. And I started to experiment with microdosing and meditation and just getting to a completely new level. Like, whew!

Kind of level. But I just could not understand where people had not seen this before. Like, what the hell are we doing if this is a completely default thing that happens, right? So I had to go and learn a lot about that. And I joined a group, like 200 people, I think. And, you know, 200 people. And now we're about 7,000. I think we're just about to cross 7,000 people,

all about Liberty Caps. And so I learned so much. I taught others learn more, right? Have you heard of the fast method by Jim Quake? No, please, share me. Share with me. When you're learning something, F, forget that you know anything about it. So you're not going to go into it with any prejudice or trying to

figure like that, and I know that, I don't need that. Go in with a completely new mind. Forget everything you know. Active. So take notes, ask questions, and just be there, right? States, have a mindset of actually wanting to learn, be curious and wanting, like, what's why behind what you're doing? And then teach. So you're teaching it and you're learning it twice. And the more you do that, the more of an understanding you get, the more ideas you're getting fed, the more of the whole understanding of the entire concepts of being seen. And all of a sudden, you find quantum physics and unity and all those things that you thought was hard, right? So it's all the energy.

So that group grew. Yeah. That group grew and yeah, that's just the adventure. Yeah. Man. We're learning how to really take it to the levels after the 10 next levels, right? We have started something today, which has been a complete resonance all the time. And we have just been expanding consciousness all through today.

It's been, actually, on the parking lot, we were standing and talking. Then he's going like, oh, my God. It's just, oh, my God. Like the Trinity, the everything, the energy and flow. And the thing that we created was just, oh, my, amazing. Oh, my God. We popped. We popped out of it.

We were so deep in it. That was like, holy shit. We need to sit down and start breathing, what is going on. And we just need to relax, feel I'm flying. Yeah. What I'm seeing here is this tribe, we're meeting our fears. We get comfortable to being in our fears to get the greatness. Because the greatness is so big that the fear is so small.

You know, not all the shadows and shadow. It's so I'm sorry Follow the light Love Yeah I want to go But there's so much

In there man I'm super stoked to be I can't believe This is like your guys First coming together Like you guys This is This is

It's a This is It's a feeling the intensity But George You can always be So So special to us Yeah

I'm part I'm part of it man Yeah You are You are You are When are To meet

Next year Yes. When is, I'm coming out there or you guys come out here or something. We'll figure it out, man. I'll bring my team. Just hang out a little bit. We're going to build this amazing ice bathing hunt. So just.

Yeah, totally, man. We hope so often those are looking at this. We hope the person who are looking at this who really wants to experience this. We know how it feels like to live in fear because I have one mind-blowing idea. How many people are listening to you, George? I think we'll probably reach about maybe 500 to 1,000 people on the first day. First day. Okay. So we need, we said a year.

We need 400 people to try to this energy thing. We said a year, but we just need to communicate that if anyone wants to, we can do it in a month. 400 people. We want to build an energy that the universe. is going to explode. We know that we can make it happen. Absolutely. Here's the thing, though.

Like, if anyone feels called to do this, you need to be willing and open and wanting to go into that fear. Want it to be a little weird. Standing like this, whoo! On the beach, in the public, right? You need to be going with a floor.

Go with the fly. Maybe it feels. like a little bit different right now where you're sitting but remember we're a tribe we're a pack we're gonna motivate you we are in the same frequencies you are the same energy this maybe it feels like difficult right now where you sit but it's not going to feel that difficult when you're in it yeah and dude I my my life was I felt so hopeless that I decided to die but you know you know even Even I made it, man.

Even I made it. If I can do it, you can do it too. Yeah. That's true. Oh, that's true. Do you remember, Stion? Like, what was it? Like, at the moment you were at your depths of despair,

was there a thought that came into your mind or a light that lit up for you that was like, wait a minute. This is wrong. Like, was there something that came to you in that moment? Well, you know, like the moment I knew stuff, actually subconsciously, but the moment I knew, I was not ready to die. It was actually because I had some shangas on DMT, and I put that in a joint, right?

I smoked that at the beach. Like my life was already fucking hopeless. Let's fucking try DMT, you know? So I smoked it in two swans. You know the swans? Yeah. So beautiful. They flew past me and like suddenly we connected and they turned around.

And like the fruit towards me and we connected like. And then we asked me like, yeah, are you going to join? Are you ready? And I was like, oh, there's no way. Well, no wait. I'm not ready yet, you know. And then, yeah, I've come to realize that's what that was. That's when I knew I was not really, I didn't really want to die.

I thought so. Yeah. This is life calling you back, man. Like, you ain't done yet. You got people to teach. You got lessons to learn. You have people that you're going to inspire, man. You ain't coming over.

over here. Yeah, you ain't ready. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Marius, what about you? Like, you had mentioned a second ago that, you know, you had a very nice message to people about, like, hey, look, if you're feeling in fear or there's another thing out there. Was there a, what was it for you in the moment where you decided to take the next step? Back in 2018, I was in the system and got a lot of diagnosis and got a lot of medications. Right. So I ran in on a seven-month psychosis every day. Every single day, psychosis. Right.

Right. So what I've seen is that when we take this psychedelic and we make this energy flow, it's like the same way to be in a psychosis kind of thing, you know. That's what they identify that as. That's their label for you. Their sickness they put on you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I smoked a little bit cannabis, and they told it was the cannabis and they were sick, man. But the doctor in Amsterdam tells me that with cannabis

with the right CBD and THD, reset spray function with psychosis. It's important to say that. Yeah, because psychosis, when you can control it, you just have a contact with the universe. So my opinion of this is that when I was really low down and I was sick of the medication, the universe grabbed me and showed me myself. I got this self-confidence that was so high.

I was running at the beach naked, screaming in the water, you know, and feeling this relief and this love and this worth like a person. know I get this when I looked at the sun the sun was and I was breathing at the sun it inhalation and breathing at the sun the sun gets stronger and bigger I can feel it coming through me and I experienced so much energy from above that was and that was a time I took contact with Torari and I believe that we was in family I believe that he was some kind of brother to me and I needed to contact him so that's when the whole the whole thing happened so when i took the psychedelic and uh special today

i saw that psychosis is this kind of energy but some kind of out of control because you don't know what happened yes it's the doctors say that this is we will never find out what psychosis is. She's a stupid statement. That's what the doctor says, you know. So what is psychosis? I'm trying to learn something about it and I have learned a lot, but I think universe will show me what really psychosis is. So don't be afraid you guys if you believe psychosis or something. If you get CBD or something, you can calm it down. But then again, just just, just, just Just to clarify, when you were psychotic, how many people were you consciously hanging around with that could bring it to the next level? So you were alone trying to take the same problem with the same line.

Yeah, I was alone, but I was talking about my look at life, you know. And that made you seem crazy. Yeah, that made me seem crazy and then the police came by my door because I was so happy. because i was so happy i was so excited about the universe i was talking about this energy and cannabis and nature and that the system is a lie and tried to kill us what they're saying on the tv because if you're saying the same fear as so many times your brain is going to believe it you know right our brain is so stupid but also so smart so it's important to understand that The TV tells you something, but you know it's not true.

But your brain, but you're here every day. Your brain will believe it in the end. So. And this was before the entire world shit show that we know as a media happened. So being that guy that said it back then. Yeah. Before everything had been uncovered, it really takes a toll. People are looking at you as your fucking crazy person.

Yeah. Yeah. But you know, that says a lot. It does. In a world that is in a world that is full of lies, the person who sees clearly looks like the criminal. The person who sees clearly, right, is the person everyone is running away from.

Like, that guy's crazy. No, you're the person telling the truth. You're the person ringing the bell. Hey, look, there's a problem here. And because think about what it means for the majority of people, for them to understand that a lot, I don't want to say everything, but the majority of what people believe, their reality is not reality. So when you begin reminding them that there's a problem, they have to call you crazy.

Otherwise, they have to begin to think that maybe they're a little crazy. And people don't like that. They don't like that. Yeah, exactly, man. And they'll put you away for that. Like, hey, get out of here. You're ruining the party, man. We want to live in Fantasyland.

You know? Yeah. Now, as we are starting to openly share how we see, other people see that. and find the courage to share their story. And then that is how we get. Because we're not alone anymore. We're together about this. Just three years.

Just three years. Yeah. Every great philosopher in history was put in prison. You know, every, right, the original thinkers, like, you know, when it was Galileo and these Copernicus, they're like, hey, we're not the center. Well, what happened? They were shut up. They were shunned.

They were put to death. all these people like, you know, there's, there's burn, yeah. The witches, right? Nature, nature medicine and this universe, that's too much, man. Burn, burn, burn. Yeah, yeah. It's insane. It is.

It's crazy. How that just got introduced and taught to us from every movie angle in Hollywood, the media, and just everything. How marriages were not for love. It was to strengthen the family, to keep the kingdom. People married themselves. their kins, like their sister. This has been a corrupted system

from way back when they didn't know shit. Now we just knew better. Although poor fucking loyalty. Yeah. It's horrible way. Yeah. It's so interesting. You know, when I think of the word history, I think of it as two words, his story.

When you look at it from that angle, it's just a story that was told to you since you were a child. And the people that find themselves, loves losing it later in life, whether they turn to crime, whether they have psychosis, or whether they try to commit suicide or, you know, we do all kinds of things in our life because things don't make sense. And it's usually people like us, people that get up and who have calluses on their hands and go to work every day. Like we are the leaders. It's up for,

it's up to us to make the change in society. And the people on top can't make the change. They're used to controlling stuff from the top down. But that's not where change happens. Change happens from the bottom up, from people like you going out and making the world different, from people standing around and saying, what, like, think about what that guy said to you. What is the secret? Like, here's a guy looking at three people, like, right? I think we're talking about it right now. Like, this is the secret, you know? I want to shift gears for a minute, too, Tor. You had mentioned that when you had called the company in Canada and were able to explain about like the LD 500 link. L205 Nuggets thing. Thank you. Okay. So I have, I was recently talking to the president of the Australian Psychedelics Association. And he brought up some things that I think you would find incredibly relevant in that when taking psychedelics,

and I'm sure everyone in your group will find this interesting. You know, when we take psychedelics and we do it in a way that is conscious, we have our intention there, you can begin to see some fabrics of lies stripped away and you can begin to see clearly the mechanism of action. And for you in that particular case, it was the problem with this machine is probably over here. You know, it's interesting to me, and I'm curious to get your opinion on this,

the same way you were able to think about the mechanics of that machine, so too are you able to see the mechanics of relationships with other people. Can you, like, right? It's interesting how psychedelics allows us to, yes, to see the patterns, to see the mechanism of actions, not only in mechanical things, but also in relationships. And I'm wondering, can you see that and can you leverage that? Yes, absolutely. That is what it is all about. That is SLS.

It's like you don't look at the mechanical, the physical, into flow and possibility. We talked about it. We talked about you don't know what you don't know, right? But people have a very strong opinion about almost everything that someone. and told them, blah, blah, blah. You know that life. But if you feel it, you can't deny it. There's no possible way. So when you make sure that people not just learn, but the experience it, they're going to see, they're going to just remember how that solution felt, what they actually wanted, what they're searching for, right? I'm sorry, am I segueing now? Because I forgot my train of

thought. We were just going into mechanism of action and mechanics and, Yeah, so when you kind of strip away, as you said, you strip away those lines and those things that just doesn't make sense anymore. So you kind of just cleaning the system. It's like rebooting a 10-year-old computer after having installed hornhubs. Do they have map? I don't think they have. The thing is, like, you're clogging the system. And when you're taking that hard reset or tossing out the bathwater, you're going to be more clearly able to see that energy.

Like, I saw it. I was, you need to do this story again, guys. I once, when I got into this, I saw that there was different levels, different potencies and, like, experiences from those different doses. So microdose, subliminal, you won't feel it. Right, right. And starting to go into a moderate amount and then that's higher you go. And normally, people say that five grams of Liberty caps, a high dose.

And if you go for eight, well, then you're going to, that is ego death in a bodyway. And then I was like, I had a blood clot, right? Right. Well, it's very important that I say a bull, I had. Oh, how much? Mars. Sorry, we're thirsty cotton now. Basically, where was it?

Yeah, about, you know, the trail. Yes. So I had a blood clot and I figured that for that to remove itself to epigenetics, creating the system that will kind of not be hospitable for that thing. Right. Okay. I had to overshadow overshower with the lung to make sure that the system is going to overpower the disease. And for that to happen, I had to see things differently.

So I figured, I need to be okay with that. That is one of those things that psychedelics says to do. Right. So beautiful. Yeah. So I was sitting there 12 grams of liver. Because I needed a big artillery in my ass. Right.

This was as I was also learning what those things are. Right. So I had had so many trips behind me that I kind of knew where I was going and I just went. So I put on a soundcape. I had a trip sitter, my ex. And I just lay down after drinking this horrible water that I completely misjudged. Like instead of having one cup of 12 grams, I had like three big IKEA glasses with a lot of water. And I had to get home.

It was like, oh, my God, what am I going on. right a lot of hundred and stuff went into soon that right but it took like five or ten minutes before i was not there anymore i had to lay down i put my phone on my chest and i was like yeah that cannot be there because i felt it was pushing all of something pressing down the duck then removed that felt like my entire body all my cells opened i could hear the pop i was talking to them about it earlier I hear literally my cells pop in my ear. And there's a lot of cells. And so sometimes it just takes ages, thousands of years for that to just go through.

But as it was lying there, it was just taking me like an F-16 fighter jet. I was opening my eyes. Too much stuff was happening. I could not keep them up so I just closed them again. Right. And then I felt the energy being more free because I'd removed the device that was radiated. So I saw my energy or I felt I sensed it. It was like I had a visual mental representation of the room.

in so I knew where things were. I was hearing with my senses that I was seeing things and just make sense of me. And so I saw this frequency that was about my head as I was lying in the couch and I figured if that is where I am and I saw this other frequency taller like higher up. I was like that is where I want to go. I need just need to and then I just pulled that I pushed it and I took that energy and just pushed up and as it hit that desired frequency I was like like that clear. I was just opening my eyes, sitting back up,

looking straight in my eyes, look at my eyes. She was like, what was that? I was like, I don't know, but right now I have all the answers to every single question of the universe, so fire away. You have a little bit more space, and you should do this right now. So she was like, okay, she's starting to ask.

And, you know, lo and behold, those answers were spot on. And I don't even remember the answers, but I have recorded videos of me talking to the camera during that, that moment. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's a conversation I have not reviewed. So maybe I'm talking to myself now.

Oh, my God. Right? Okay. I got up and I got the guitar because I can't play the guitar. But I heard the music. I heard some melody in my head and I just had to get out of my head. And I started to just make sounds. I wasn't able to make my finger finger.

So I was just all over the place. And then you saw these sound waves. Boom, boom, boom. into the room. I was like, whoa, never saw that before. That was interesting. And so I just start to think. And I was really, I was really deep into it when I thought, holy shit, it's 11 a.m. What the fuck am I doing? Right. I got that paranoia. That was right. Totally. I was 12 grams of criminal. It was the most horrible. Oh my God. Just hold me. Right. I was.

I got the brace. It was like, I'm sacred. And then she like, he was like, he was. And then she, like, she had to go. I couldn't, I was, I couldn't go anywhere. I just had to stay put. I don't think I was going to go to bed, but I didn't know how to sleep. I didn't know how the bed works or what I was or why there was a phone there and how to use it. It was a lot of things that happened. So I was lying there 500 years, it seemed, and I figured I should probably get something to eat, to try to get down again. And then I did. I started to just eat some fruit. I got back. I thought it was over. next wave

oh my god so my i i started to really find my balance again that's a part i love because when my family came back home i want to really shield my family from this thing even though i know who i am like i'm filled with gratitude and love to the level that cannot

be explained and i'm taking part in their experience of reality i'm embarrassed there's a dinosaur in the kitchen really going at like the story and adventures that we've had, superpowers from bark. So I just love to go into that space, right? And we had so fun, she went to bed, and I was like, that was,

I can't explain that. That was before we had found SLSA, right? And also, Ram Dass says that for those who have had the experience, no explanation is necessary, but for those who have not, not as possible. We're not in this situation. But then I learned one immense thing, and that was you don't need 12 grams ever. But the things that has come after that has been like, I removed a lot of layers of the onion at the same time.

And it just reset something huge. And after that, it is now the keys of the universe. I don't remember the question, but I hope it answered it. I think for those who, what was the quote again? for those who know there needs be no explanation. Yeah. Of course you do not.

There is no explanation possible. I've never heard that before, but it's so true to the point, man. So true. Yeah. Where we have had all day. What? Like, I'm having a great time.

I want to continue, but do you have your friend coming in? Is he landed? I think it's about an hour and a half. It's 8.30. Yeah. He is landed. I just got the toy.

that wipes your ass and opens the delivery all of a sudden. But we're building a bathroom, me and my dad, and just got the things installed. And it was a toilet that actually opens as a clothes in it. Have you ever had one of those automatic toilets? No, never. You haven't heard about it. That is an extreme.

I hear this tune as I approach. This, oh, it's amazing. Right. But I just got confirmed that we got it. Nice. Very nice. Nice. Yeah, but we, yeah, we do have a fourth member that we have to call, pick up, calm.

Yes. We panic, whatever good word. But we are an adventure, and he knew that. He comes in nine hours after him, expects us to be in the lobby? No, no, no. Yeah. Nice. Yeah.

Are you guys still okay to go for a little bit longer, or? I don't know. Have you sent the message? Should we send the message? Yes. You send them a message. He has not said anything. No, I think it was 7 or 8.30.

And it's like five minutes ago. So we're not that bad on. We're actually good friends. We remember them. Yeah, right? With a little help from George. Thank you, George. Just hope that this is the right number.

Yeah, right? It's just such an adventure that you do hard. It's insane. I'm excited to be here, man. This is fun. It's really interesting. Yeah, it's really. Hello?

Hi, Dolmike, the two. Hi. Yeah, we met me in a podcast seller. I'm actually going to just speak in English that they don't think that. We're actually at the podcast with George Monty from true life. And we just, all three of us, we did three some with George. It was amazing. It was amazing.

We actually were in a hotel lobby right now that we kept kind of scored from the That is amazing story. I'm not going to be in a conference room that we're scorping the lobby. But yes, so we remember you and we're going to come pick you up. That is fans. That is fantastic, bro. All right. So I'm trying to act cool with those news.

So are you going to just meet us in downtown? What? This is Clarion Hotel. Clorion Hotel. Clorion Hotel. You'll find us there. Alex. All right.

All right. All right. Fantastic. Love you. Bye. Yeah. story he actually got offered $800,000 just a few days ago because

he wants to create a dream which is in a result of the 100 day challenge so he's meeting the investor now and he's going to be held up on to mine. We have time. Nice. Or he's going to be meeting him at 9 I think. He's actually taking a lot of liberties. We have to drive

two hours to get to get him. Oh yeah. But this is huge. This is like this is next level huge. So we have an adventure ahead in any way we go. Yeah.

It's amazing to see the adventure unfold. Like it's, like I feel we're watching it happen and here's the next stage and here's a next stage, you know? It's like a choose your own adventure kind of a story here.

It's like Harry Potter. Daniel Randall. Hey, Harry Potter. He's just seen what happens? Oh my God. What do you think are the, let me ask you this one. And this one's out,

this question is to all three of you, so anyone can feel free to take it here. What do you think is the most important part about a relationship? Okay, I think there's three. Okay. Sex, trust, and communication. Okay, let's start with sex. Like, do you think in any sort of relationship that way?

Like, is that the first thing that draws us to another person? What do you think that is? I think that is about, like, what's fear, right? If you're standing on a diving board and you're looking down, you have never jumped a 10 meter before, you're going to feel something that is uncomfortable, right? Okay. we call that fear, but is that fear, or is that like in, like, the dent from the unit or like a nudge that something is about happening if you go through this, right? Right.

If you feel, because the way I met, Michelle, the festival, it was what people call love at first sight. I've never, never seen it before. Actually, just briefly the day before when my buddy was just showing her his penis out of the dare, because we can do that. Right. You know, there's a lot of drinking, a lot of alcohol. Right, right. also different reality. So Michelle came up to me.

Ash is in their entire face. She's like, hi, who are you? Right? Really out of it. I got to admit, not the best first impression. But she's got to scurry away when my friend showed his penis. So she didn't see more. The next day I was sitting there in this campfire site.

The sun was shining. People were doing yoga. The energy was just amazing. I had no understanding of the concept yet. But I saw these two great silhouettes on the pier. I was like, damn. That was good. And now it just sat back down.

And then all of a sudden, these girls come in and they sit with the bench. Turns out there was the silhouettes. But I was like, by that time, I started to try to experience the art in everything. Right. And the human body, you got to admit, it's like a piece of art. Sometimes it just. Sure. Cheers to that.

Right. That was a good piece of work. Right. And then she comes over and she looks me straight in the face. And now she does not have ashes in hers. So all of a sudden, she was different. And something clicked. And after that, we just continued the conversation with her friends.

She was over there. She was doing some crazy things, sneaking up on a dude in a bag, a beanbag, scared the living crap out of him. I was like, she crazy. I like that. And then all of a sudden, our eyes met again. And we just smiled.

and I felt S-L-S-LSA, and I didn't know what it was, but I felt like, right? And she felt it too, because she came over, and she sat down in the log behind me as I was just leaning on it. And I just put my head in her lap, and she started to kind of cuddle me, or just stroke. Our eyes met, and we said, hey, that was it. That was it. And after that, the physical connection was amazing. So to answer your question, I don't think that for me, I just came over the word demisectual, where you don't feel sexually attracted until you are connected on a deeper energetic.

Right. I had that with Michelle. So sex was one thing that we just aced out of the park, freaking all stars. I would say that that's spiritual sex, right? I've never really experienced really merging into one person. That was when I started to really go into energy work. I think that's why Todd Preston. There's forces to be played with during that.

Sure. little thing that most people don't appreciate it. And we found this thing in each other, which was so strong that it carried everything else for six years. There were jealousy. There was a lot of things that it created friction in the relationship. And I was not doing my best at home. Like I was lazy. I was working from 5 a.m. to 10 p.m. trying to make the business work so that we can actually pay for the food that we have, all that stuff. So when I came in and I didn't have mental capacity to do the chores as well or got, you know, flagged, for not caring about doing the tours or what.

There was a lot of things. Most people can relate to that little back to board. And I started like, she didn't want to see that we were two people who completed each other that could go towards the same goal instead of fighting two different battles on each side and then complaining about the other one, not doing it. After a while, we find out how to communicate,

but not in the best way. Because I think that the energy that you have through sex, you can also have through communication. the energy that you get through communication and sex can also be had through trust, just knowing the freedom of not owning a person and being 100% accountable and honest with yourself, knowing that happiness comes from within and you choose to be with the other soul that you're found, right? Connecting on all different levels. So I think that if you feel really good energetically,

you can connect on all the levels that resonate and you're going to feel if you resonate. So I think that the most, to answer the question, the most important thing for relationships, is resonance in a variable space, I guess, in a variable, because if you're too far away, you kind of never make it work. If you're too close, you're basically the same, and there's not going to be any fun in that. But if you're just enough away, you can build on each other on the things that both have and lack, basically. And then you just move. But you have to be kind of similar and then find that joy together, which starts with residence. But there's pain in that. You have to be able to accept that you have to go out during.

One, a wise woman told me once, if you're thinking about a person and you don't know why you're thinking about that person. Yeah, that was, it's not really that. It's not really you just thinking on that person. It's that person. You're connecting. Wow. I never heard that before.

That's, it blows my mind. But yeah, I can totally see that. Yeah. me and my friend i had a friend from the u.s keith right he had my experience basically in the ayahuasca sphere right he knows everything about ayahuasca he was living in the kitos he had over a hundred or 70 or 100 plus ayahuasca trips really going into it and we had these conversations that very quickly turned to very deep friendship because as with one is relationships right his connections

is love you can have that regardless of the gender right so we had this conversation that just connected us on a soul level and we had those understanding of both parts of the equation basically me with psychedelics in sylisivan and him with ayahuasca and we saw these similarities that made us see that there were more like two ideas from three and over time we just felt each other keith had a different keith had his own frequency and i could feel that when i was supposed to contact him if i went into messenger very often that chat bubble would already be spinning because we had just done the same thing We took action on what we think. That is huge.

They feel, don't think. If you feel like you should do something, fucking do it. Me and the show broke up. But we've had sex after we broke up. We've kissed after we broke up because we are honoring the connection, the energy, not the label that people want to put on. So when me and Keith got really close,

I had this really weird picture and sensation on him whenever. So I could identify as, This is the key frequency. All of a sudden, I felt like I had to talk to him and we call each other and he says that he's got a cancer that I can't even pronounce. All of a sudden, from nowhere, he got this. Keith Ironowitz, by the way,

Boston 117 or 7. You're gonna find him on Instagram. He was a very big graffiti artist who deserves fucking respect for what he did. And I might be emotional on this one. Just saying, I'm gonna do a pilgrimage down to the US because they have made an honoring of him in graffiti on first street, F Street, something. And I feel like what we had, I need to go down there to actually just take part in the spirit of key.

Because in ayahuasca of spirits was the dominant thing. In psilocybin, there was frequencies. It was so fascinating. In spirit world and the universe, insane. But all of a sudden, like, I knew he had cancer. And time went by. And I was so fucking busy. I couldn't.

I felt bad for not being able to do more. And then I figured I'm going to send a message. So I did. And then his wife answers back saying that he has chemo in his brain. He can't really communicate right now. I will reach out when he's feeling better. A little more time went by, but not a lot. Right.

So I reach out again because all of a sudden I feel, I feel Keith really hard. Like it was a kick in the stomach. And as I finally find a. the time to actually reach out two or three days later. I go into Facebook. The first thing I see is Keith. I see his picture of just, right?

I was like, that's going to be making easy. Now I can just go into his profile and call him. Yeah. And that was like in honor of Keith O'Donowitz, died this day or born this day and died this day. And that was a eulogy of his wife. And that hit me like a ton of bricks. I think that what I felt, because the date of his death is the date I felt that shit. It was his ascension. He went to the different level.

And after that, I've actually had that feeling again. I've been feeling the Keith frequency, sensing what he would say in this situation or whatever, knowing that he is now where we try to fantasize toward. Like we tried to explain the semantics of death through psychedelics, comatosis, like comas, near-death experiences, all these things that put you to the end of life. and then you have more to learn, right? We try to just really thinking ourselves through what would that be the next chapter. And then if life is game, you want to do everything that you can throughout this life

with as much love as you can, facing the fears that you have been given, and then going through, when you come there, you're going to have a rich life where you was, you were just fully valuable helping everyone around. With a ripple effect, right? Right. Although people have been known to die for that, Jesus or something. but then we meet again I guess or the energy energy can't die you can just transmit right we know that which was never born can

never die yeah exactly so if we just because I the whole video the journey of thought basically goes into science of how we are nothing but a subatomic quantum fluctuation of thank you well on the vacuum on a plunk scale so like we're just little couple of little variations it's a hard and a 20 minute long conversation so we shouldn't do that but then you always the universe right and just going with that frequency seeing everything through that i accepted that i i just how do we get into frequencies i think we just began talking about relationship and in relation to and then how do we get in the same frequencies because how do we get

in the same frequencies because we experience the same feeling because we're talking about our feelings and we'll see almost a light It's like a tuning fork, right? Once you see someone on it you just begin to gravitate towards it and you tune towards each other. The same way a woman

will tune other women into their menstrual cycle, right? Like, so too do we as all humans. Like if that happens in this set of humans, then wouldn't the same principle happen throughout humanity and all humans if we're vibrating on a certain level? Yeah, we won't think that.

But I think that more people needs to actually show who they are. Like, people meditating and doing crazy shit and people are asking questions, right? And then just doing that more. Maybe you can't vibrate on the same frequency unless you're honest with yourself, right?

Exactly, yeah, that's the point. Because when we were fasting, we were standing there and we had the same frequency, the people came because they can feel the love. Yeah. Getting pulled up. You never get to drag down if you don't focus on it. You're doing what feels good, basically.

Yeah. Right. Quite recently, I've been like just fucking telling my truth and put it out there, like, being me while I do it. And so many people commented on or like took contact with me because my energy was like, oh, I just had to take contact because of it's energy, dude. And I believe that energy is less than you see, you know. So it's true. It's so easy to explain because then those who know they know.

Yeah. Yeah. Do you think maybe like first off, I'm sorry to hear about your friend Keith, but it brings up this point of a sort of contact, a sort of feeling or a sort of resonance or what can go with frequency, which is probably the best way to describe it. It seems like when you're operating on like SLSA or you're operating on these higher levels that maybe you can contact the people

that are in a different place that have gone before you, right? Like I think that it does become more familiar that feeling. And it's sad that you have. have to feel it when someone passes, but maybe that's the beginning lesson for you to begin to feel it more. It's interesting to think. And this is actually very interesting to bring that up because my father lost his love, basically. He found a partner who resonated in all levels. She had a disease. And one day she got up from the kitchen bench and she died. Like no closure, and that kind of gave us, that was after I started my journey and got into quantum physics.

and seeing energy about this. And after she passed, her parents and my dad had been kind of giving me things because me and her really resonated. You're thinking the same things. And I guess when people do certain things, they see that, oh, this person is like this person. She reminds me of him or vice versa.

So I was receiving a lot of books from them because they knew that I liked to read. And I learned these things from some of the books that just changed my paradigm. And I was like, if her, energies like that she can't die like that that energy is somewhere right and i started to accept the fact that she was not there and then we have the funeral and as i was thinking this that's

that thought sounds like disney movie but a stream of life hit me in the face and only me i was like there she is not going to meet again even though she wasn't physically there materialistic there. She was there. I just had to tune into that. And then the journey from there, I feel like I've got so many books and things that just help me.

Think and grown rich by Napoleon film. There you go. You know that book or should know that book, right? Yeah. My dad does, for the first one, he doesn't read English books. Secondly, he doesn't read books. So when he was the one to give me that book,

it completely changed everything in my life. I was like, wow, that was not I was like, where did you get this book? Lennan. I was like, wow, you know, right? Yeah, so it changed my paradigm and I started to see death differently. And then my grandfather died, who had been a rock and the tribal chief, right? He was really an interesting person.

I tried to make him write a book before you die. But he was a very like a man of his generation. He was a quiet guy who didn't think that you should talk to much. I think that everyone should have a hundred percent death tax, lose everything when they die, and have to focus on the knowledge and the value that can give the other people to just build the knowledge and get ahead, right? But they don't have to get all the, like a lot of million. They don't get things because they just got them. You actually have to earn them because that creates better people. And he was like that, almost, but very much like, he was stuck in the other energy.

So when he died, people got his possessions. That's it. He was. Yeah. Even though everyone tried to make him talk. Like our grand, someone in our family lineage is called Leonard Sepul. And Disney just made a movie about him. Togo. These things run in the family. These things that people do things that they don't fucking talk about it.

The only reason I know is because other people found interest in what he was doing when it was handstanding a horse and shit. Then they started to write about it. And that's how we got to know it. But we have to share it. So sharing those stories, yeah, back to death. Like when he died, I felt like everything was so fucking stale. Like he was put in the box.

We had to carry out that box. Following a dude that had read everything he knows in a Bible. And he didn't even know my granddad. He was talking from these parables and shit from the Bible. And I felt like it was so fake. Because he's like you're putting all your knowledge in the book. And the only reason, I'm not bashing on this. religion. I think the frequency of belief is a fucking power. But I believe like if you put that

book in the couch, I would rather believe in the couch and the house to couch standard and the universe to the house is situated. Instead of taking a glass of water from a river and just honoring that little piece of water and that is my life now that is my norm, my paradigm, my rules, all that stuff. Those are my commandments. I rather would look at the river that the water kingdom because that is not going to die in a still environment. New possibilities, new flow, right? And with that flow, my granddad deserved something different. That was the first time where I really took action on what I leave. So instead of putting on a rose, I had this rock with a Norse symbol on called babies,

which is like the compass to show your way and honor his energy afterwards. And I put that on his dog. People were like, but that is my way. Death is not scary anymore because it's just, a passing that you get to do. And then if you have done a lot of things that just prove that you are worthy, it would be given.

I guess you go to the next level. Yeah. It's, that's an awesome story, man. It brings up so many questions in my mind. Like, you know, I really, I love the idea of, what, I like what you said about the death tax,

but it brings to me this question of like, it's almost like a plague. Like, we have come to respect the monetary value and money itself over the experience. The real richness that your grandfather gave was his experience, but people are rather trade in the money. They'd rather trade in this idol instead of the real juice, instead of the real history, the experience that can make them rich.

Instead, they just want the rich. In a way, you make yourself poor that way. Like, why do you think we do that? What's going on? That is again, back to the whole physical thing of the energy, heavy energy versus flowing energy. They just know that heavy energy because money is rough. I'm not going to say names actually.

This is for fun families in the world. And they have been so for a long time. And that, you know, that just inherits down the line. If you have values of shit, then you're going to teach that to your kids. They're going to see how you operate the world. And then if that is based on that materialistic, just money to me kind of way, instant gratification or dominates, it's going to be hard to see the world different. If you work towards it, if they were only to say that this is what you need to do,

this is what you need to do, then you take 10 years and comprise that into one month. And you have that foundation to continue to learn on. And that just goes down into generations. Can you imagine how that would look like in 20 years when they're not these huge conglomerates just operating on dominating, but everyone wants to share to bring us up? I think that would be a pretty good deal. Yeah. Yeah, I, I, I, I'm hopeful we can get there. It's, I think we can.

I think maybe this is a movement starting. It reminds me, though, of, like, families. Like, I just interviewed Joseph Sassoon, who wrote a book called The Sassons. And the Sassons are like the Rothschilds of the East. Like, they were a banking family from the Middle East. And then they came up, you know, they came up being sort of the people that could use usery. And they were allowed to do this. And then they moved into commodities.

and then they moved into the opium trade. And the story's fascinating because it's told by Joseph Sasson, who wasn't part of like the ruling Sassoon family. He was part of the family that got left behind in the Middle East when the richest father and the son moved to Europe and started this incredible empire that they had going. But he tells the story from like the rise and the fall. And you get to see so much bickering and so much infighting.

And like they were basically like drug dealers. Like they were just, you know, they were controlling all this opium. And he talks about what it did to the individuals in the family. And the reason I'm bringing it up is like it, they completely lost. Like the first guy that started it was this incredible individual that had insight and authority and more than that understanding of what life is and experience. And as they moved up in this empire, someone that got passed on, but it slowly became squeezed out of the family

until that there was nothing left but just bickering in a hollow shell of what the money really does to people. The money goes in and it steals everything from you and then you put it in this idol and then it gets just taken away from you. In a way, it's a thief. But yeah, I think we can't move on.

Instead of focus on value, we were focusing on the symbol of success that we all agreed upon. It's a fucking paper note. Yeah. But you can feel experience. You can feel valid. So if you just continue to share that experience, because I don't, I don't guess you really feel a lot to carry anything forward when you buy something that is going to cost you more energy or like an iPhone.

I don't feel like, this is an iPhone 12 and now I'm going to save the world. It's like it's sucking your energy. But if you go in and you just try to create energy and do the things that feels right, it's a very backwards thing to think because if you give the money, if you give value, the money is going to follow. the money is just going to enforce who you were over the off. Evil money becomes evil because the person who is doing it just does not know any other reality. I know how it was to be on that perspective. And then what vice versa. A good person would do something to create a better thing.

Like we created it today. Yeah. It's fascinating. Let's shift gears for a minute. Like it's super interesting to get to hear different perspectives from different people on different parts of the planet. And you guys being where you are located geographic. Let me first off share with you what I see kind of going on from my little bubble here in Hawaii on a geopolitical scale. It seems to me, and this is just my opinion, I'm not sure that this is anybody else's, and I don't speak for anybody else.

But it seems to me on a geopolitical level, like we have seen like NATO, of which I don't even understand why my country's in NATO. Like we have no business being over there. I'm sadden. The money that comes from my taxes goes to support some things that I don't get any benefit from. And I think a lot of Americans feel that way. But I see this sort of warlord-type mentality encroaching on the border of Russia. I see Russia protecting itself. It's interesting to me to see in America we're taught like all these horrible things,

like the Nazis are bad and this and that. And World War II is sort of a conundrum over. here but in the media it's just it's all germans are bad like they they they they painted germany with such a broad bush with when kids are young and so now all of a sudden it blows my mind to see so many people in twitter in america talking about hey we're going to support the ukraine even though ukraine has like these nazi flags on there so it's it's interesting for me to see people in my country who are like hey we don't like the nazis but then they support the ukrainian troops that are carrying Nazis.

Like, you said it's a pretty big dichotomy there. But in my world, like, I don't, I don't understand, except for the only thing I can understand is it's a battle of resources. It's a battle of creating supply chains for the next hundred years. And it's not country versus country. It's multinational corporations fighting other government organizations in order to secure the resources and fuck the people of the world. I wish that we as a people of the world could rise up and demand more of those people that quote unquote rule us,

force them to do what the right thing is to do. That's kind of the way I'm looking at this geopolitical strategy. Do you guys see it similar? Do you guys have a different view? How do you guys see it? A slightly different view on the history part. That is. Okay, please.

It's almost like a Bitcoin, you know. It's taking over the banks. The banks are pissing in their pants. know because we are starting to take over because the evil is it's weak you know yes trying to kill us all these years try to bury us you know try to bury us you know try to bury our ideas if you can't go through the if you can't go through the school system we're stupid you know yeah but that system will fuck you up oh my god yeah it's meant to disable you yeah oh yeah so a lot of things is going to happen

I think we are in the start of World War III because the people want love now. They don't want this hate and stuff. So I think the people is going to go through the system one day because we don't want this anymore. I agree. Spies that worked for the common good that were going to sabotage the enemy. We are doing the exact same thing. We're trying to shed awareness on things that has been propagandized and misunderstood for so long that is just spinning people in the face.

And that's why I just want to say that. I'm not a fat of killing myself, but I wouldn't have to do that. Oh, well, what? That's so awesome, I agree.

I see on another level, I often think to myself, maybe this is what freedom looks like. Maybe this is people shooting their pants. Maybe COVID is this idea for people to try to throw a wrench in everything. Right? Like, it seems like death.

I once, I read a really good, book, do I have it right here? It's right here. It's called When Google Met WikiLeaks. And in this book, Eric Schmidt goes to the, to the, where they were holding Julian Assange in the embassy prior to him being taken away in prison. And in that meeting, you know, Eric Schmidt and a few people are talking to Julian Assange about their kind of plans of like what Google is really doing. And And Julian Assange, you know, it's one of my favorite quotes in the book. They're talking about how they have the, like Google, big tech and governments and government

organizations and multinational corporations have this ability to control the narrative. And they're going to do so through censorship. And Julian Assange smiles at him and he goes, you know, that's the weakest thing I've ever heard in my life. The fact that you censor people just shows how weak you are. That means words could take down your entire industry. It's such a beautiful line. And censorship is such a, it's like the last gasp of poor leaders desperately trying to cover up some things that they know they're guilty for about.

What do you think are some solutions that we could all do that we could move forward to if I was to reach across right now and slap you on the back. What could we begin doing together to streamline our reviews and begin moving forward to take care of these people, like some of the people in the banks and our governments and these people that are trying to squash us? What do you think we can do? We're doing it right now. Like just this is going to start a snowball effect that's going to create them. We have plans of creating a center here in Norway called Balcona. Nice. We like Mike's right.

It's going to be a personal development thing where people can come up and learn how to take responsibility of their own fucking life. Start to see things differently. Yes. As we do that, it's just going to grow. And we already, the plan is so huge that it cannot fail, right? because when people hear it, they get inspired. So now, if you want to sponsor us with a few million dollars, that's cool. If you don't, that's cool.

If you want to go and check us out, TorSupola.com. Help us create this. Yeah. Like, we are on our way tomorrow to do the thing that we are going to change the reality with. Another guy is currently having a meeting with an investor for $800,000. And we are basically just talking about the things that we are doing. And also one of my clients is going to be the happiness, the happiness doctor in Dubai.

On a national scale, when you think about the things that has happened, I get mind blown. It's just like, it's better to just be humble and just this is what you know. You know, I've had like a similar dream before I met Thor. Like I wanted to open like some sort of treatment center with the use of plant medicine. Then I met him and we shared a dream, so we were like, what the fuck?

This is the same dream. Yeah. You can get bigger. And then... Me too. I had a dream in 2018 when I was in the psychosis. Nice. When I was a child, I always told my mom that I want to help people, but I don't know how.

But in the experience I had, I was visualizing a camp place with a big house in the middle and four houses around with different things different healings different kind of healings made natural healings people yoga meditation ice bath medicine nature and I met them you know they all have the same dream yeah we're building it and then would we be here without liberty caps crazy that is so true It never happened without this plant that doesn't know that it's illegal. I have drawings at my home. I have books.

I draw everything that I've experienced in my experience. That's everything. That is. I wrote it down and I have videos when I was high up. So we should, I will see what I will make out of it. One hundred is challenge. Yeah. How do I?

How do I get? my audience to look at your videos. Like, do you guys, can you guys send me the links to each one of all your videos so that I can send people to them and they can kind of see what you're doing? I've been telling them that we need, right now we have, uh, my, my channel is filled with information. Okay. You just started the journey and I'm actually challenging them to put it in public.

So right now, YouTube.com slash Tor Sipola is my name. You'll find a lot of shit. And I can feel that's a big fear for me because I've been in this situation that everyone I'm crazy, you know. So I'm going back to be myself because my scenes of life that the person that is being truly themselves are being looked at as crazy people, you know. He's crazy. Yeah. Yeah.

So if that's the new thing to be crazy, so I'm crazy. I'm good with that. Yeah. That was yes. Yeah. It is. If the only left is wrong, then I don't want to be right. That's super funny. Yeah, and you know, something to think about too, Marius, is that what, and for all of you, for Steyon, for Marius, for Tor, for me, like, when we give ourselves the freedom to be who we are,

regardless of what people think about us, we're crazy, we're dumb, we're stupid, we're foolish, whatever label they want to put on us. Like when we allow ourselves to be here doing this right now, like we are also giving younger versions of us the freedom to become who they are. Maybe because of what you're going through, some younger Marius or some younger Stion won't have to go through those troubles because you guys have blazed the way. You've set up the trail and now they can look at it, right?

That's why some have to carry the bag. So we can give the tools to others. So, stand on the shoulders of those are for you. Yeah. Yeah. Think about how lucky we are

to be in a position that maybe our great grandfathers are. We now have an opportunity to be the great men that came before us and our families. That's an honor. Like, and we're doing it.

We've been called. All of us have been called to do this. Exactly. You feel called to do it. Oh, that is, yes. Yes. That's a nice of secret.

Yeah. Imagine, like, for so long, we've used that term. man. Yeah. He's got some water. Yeah. It seems like for so long we've used that term standing on the shoulders of giants,

but we need new giants, right? It's our turn. It's our turn, right? Exactly. So, man, I got to tell you guys, I love, I love you guys, man. I love, I love you guys, man. I love talking to you. I got a hard break coming up here in like about three minutes, but I could probably

continue carrying on a conversation for another two hours with you guys. You can probably go on for three days. I know, I know. I know. The only way to solve this is for me to come to Norway and sit down with you guys at the Valhalla Center and try to solve some problems, maybe. Let's make this happen. We are strong together.

We are. We are. We're going to need 400 people to stand on the beach and just go with the van. Yeah. I'm ready. We need some powerful shit. And then, you know, Joe Rogan freaked out when he saw this

just crowd and Vikings going, who, who! Think about this. Make it in the winner. 400 people. Joe Rogan, we're coming for you. Right? We're coming for it, boy.

I love it. I love it. So I'm going to sign off, but hang on here one second because I want to talk you real briefly after I shut it down. Before I go, where can people find you?

You mentioned your YouTube channel. Let's mention it again. And is there any other spots people can find you? Do you have anything coming up and work? What are you excited about? We have something huge coming up, but it is also, it's, we're building the plane in the area. We don't know what we're doing. We're learning as much as we're teaching, right?

But we have challenge. Dot torsopola.com, which is the 100-day challenge. We're still trying to make sure that we can create this super bond in the tribe, which is a, you know, that's going to be a challenge as we grow. But we're going to figure that out. If people feel like we have something to give them, trust us. Go to challenge.orgia.com, sign up for the challenge. You're going to be given all the resources.

We're going to create something amazing together. And that's it. And if you don't have money, because we don't, this is a thing. We talked about this. There are levels of this. And it's going to be always free for everyone who needs to know on the first level, on the entry level, right? So go to the legacy forge.com. That is just Discord server.

That's where the tribe is. that's where we're trying to just manage everything, keep things, have the videos of tribe just sharing. That's it. Challenge at Torsepola.com and the LegacyForge. And there you also find more information about these magnificent people

and their contact information. Man, such a great story, man. I had such a great time today. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for tuning into the True Life podcast. Thank you, Tor, Marius, Dion. And we'll talk again soon. Everyone go check out the websites.

And thank you to my guest for being here. here for participating and we'll see you guys next time. Aloha.