TrueLife - Velikovsky vs. Jaynes: Cosmic Collisions and Consciousness Rebellion Unveiled
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Darkness struck, a gut-punched theft, Sun ripped away, her health bereft.
I roar at the void.
This ain't just fate, a cosmic scam I spit my hate.
The games rigged tight, shadows deal, blood on their hands, I'll never kneel.
Yet in the rage, a crack ignites, occulted sparks cut through the nights.
The scars my key, hermetic and stark.
To see, to rise, I hunt in the dark.
fumbling, furious through ruins maze, lights my war cry, born from the blaze.
The poem is Angels with Rifles.
The track, I Am Sorrow, I Am Lust by Codex Serafini, check out the entire song at the end of the cast.
Aloha from Hawaii.
George from live from my backyard.
I've got some new book reviews for you.
one in particular that has really been on my mind is
let me show you here it's called
Worlds in Collision by Emmanuel Velikovsky
some of you might be aware of them
it's one of these books that
once you pick it up and you start reading it a little bit
it's impossible to put down it
it just takes you down so many different avenues
of how things might have been or what things really are.
What would you say if I told you that everything you know about celestial mechanics is wrong?
Well, you'd probably say, I think that this dummy sitting in Hawaii doesn't know what he's talking about.
You'd probably be right.
However, it doesn't mean that Belikovsky is wrong.
You can tell by the title,
Worlds and Collision,
that he is talking about planets in collision
or worlds in collision.
And this is one of the most heavy,
footnoted books I've ever read in my life.
And the word on the street is that
this book was open on the table
when Einstein died.
I don't know if that's true.
It's probably just a rumor.
I thought I'd get a little bit into it
maybe read you some passages so you can kind of see what I'm talking about.
I'll try to give you a rough, a rough overview of a little bit,
and then I'll read some quotes from it and kind of do a little bit of a deeper dive.
His hypothesis is that the earth goes through many ages,
and every one of those ages usually ends in like a catastrophe or a cataclysm.
Kind of a little bit about what Randall Carlson talks about,
Graham Hancock talks about in their books, although obviously this was written much, much further.
And it sounds crazy at first. However, the amount of footnotes in this book, you could have a whole
library of the books that are just in the footnotes. There's got to be thousands of them. And they're
interesting books too. They're like Mayan codices and the legends of the Jews by Ginsburg,
which is like a seven-volume set.
And most of you, like me, who enjoy reading,
realize that, well, this is what my grandpa told me when I was young.
He says, George, if you want a new idea, read a really old book.
And the majority of these books that are footnoted are old books,
from, you know, the 1850s to the 1920s.
This book itself was written in 1950 and put out by Doubleday.
So he talks up quite a bit in one area that he, that I found convincing,
is that when we've all read the Homeric verses,
and they talk about Mars, and they talk about Aphrodite,
and, you know, there are some people that believe those are just metaphors for feelings,
whether it's anger or love.
And yet there's other people like Julianne,
Jains that believe that those were actual voices that people heard. However, Velikoski's ideas are
are the literal translation, the literal translation. So when he talks about Mars coming to fight on
the battlefield, he's literally talking about the planet Mars coming within within our atmosphere
and just causing havoc, causing, you know, a thousand foot waves to rise. If you think about how the
moon pulls the tides what would happen if a large body came in between us and the moon
would that just pull the ocean waters hundreds of feet or maybe miles into the sky
or you know that would make sense if if if something had that kind of gravitational
pool or you know perhaps it's a electromagnetic pole that pulls it all up and it could
just swarm over the confident or the continents if something came
that close, would it have the ability to maybe change the way the earth rotates on its axis?
Could it change the elliptical rotation of us around the, around the sun? Could it change our
rotation? Could it change our rotation around the sun? Could it change the shape of our rotation
around the sun? What would that do to the, what would that do to the climate? You know, would it,
Would it produce plagues?
Well, if you want those answers to the best of your ability,
I think this is the book for you right here.
So let me just kind of start off a little bit in the front,
and then I read some passages out of the back,
and then we'll kind of do a little bit of a deeper dive on there.
So I'll start with world ages, you know,
since we are indeed at the end of an age now,
it's kind of got me thinking with climate change.
and you know whether it's man-made or not man-made
you can't argue that the north pole is not migrating rapidly
there's a lot of changes going along
and so as I finished up this book
just got me thinking like this is an end of an age
and according to Velikovsky the and not just Velikovsky
but as you'll see a lot of people that came before us
they all agreed that the end of an age ends in cataclysm
and so let me just give you.
some proof for that.
This is a spot that says
Hesiod. One of the earliest
Greek authors wrote about four ages
and four generations of
men that were destroyed by the wrath
of the planetary gods. Again, that's
according
to Velikovsky, he's saying that this is a
literal translation, the planetary
gods. And if you remember
your Greek mythology,
you'll know that
in those times, they
believed that the actual planets were gods.
So this is more on Hesiod. He talks about
The Third Age was the Age of Bronze when it was destroyed by Zeus.
A new generation re-peopled the earth and using bronze for arms and tools, they began to use iron too.
The heroes of the Trojan were of this fourth generation.
Then a new destruction was decreed and after that came yet another generation, the fifth of men,
who are upon the bounteous earth, the generation of iron.
In another work of his, Hesiod described the end of one of the ages.
The life-giving earth crashed around in burning.
All the land seethed and the ocean's streams.
It seemed even as if earth and wide heaven above came together
for such a mighty crash would have arisen
if earth were being hurled to ruin,
and heaven from on high were hurling her down.
Okay, so that's Hesiod.
I mean, if you read it, the literal translation is, you know, planets colliding.
Hence the book, Worlds in Collision.
So here's another part that says the sacred Hindu book, the Bhagavagira, Purana, tells of four ages,
and of Parwalayas and cataclysms in which in various epochs, mankind was nearly destroyed.
The fifth age is that of the present.
the world ages are called
culpas or yugas. Each
world age met its destruction
in catastrophe
and conflagration, flood
and hurricane.
Reference to ages
and catastrophes is found in
Avesta, the sacred
scriptures of Mazdaism,
the ancient religion of the Persians.
One of the books
of Avesta counts seven world ages
or millennia.
Zarathustra, the prophet of
Mazdaism speaks of the signs, wonders, and perplexity which are manifest in the world of the end of
each millennium. The Chinese call the Paris ages kiss, the number of ten kiss from the beginning
of the world until Confucius. In the ancient Chinese encyclopedia, the general convulsions
of nature are discussed. Because of the periodicity of these convulsions, the span of time between
two catastrophes is regarded as a great year. As during a year, so during a world age, the cosmic
mechanism winds itself up, and in a general convulsion of nature, the sea is carried out of its
bed. Mountains spring out of the ground. Rivers change their course. Human beings and everything
are ruined, and the ancient traces effaced. An old tradition, and a very persistent one of world ages
that went down in cosmic catastrophes
was found in the Americas
among the Incas, the Aztecs, and the Mayas.
A major part of stone inscriptions
found in Yucatan refer to world catastrophes.
The most ancients of these fragments
refer in general to great catastrophes
which, at intervals and repeatedly,
convulsed the American continent,
and of which all nations of this continent
have preserved a more or less distinct memory.
So, most people
know that there's, you know, there's a flood story in almost all religions on all parts of the
world.
You know, this is just further evidence that just from different times and different parts of
the world, everyone is explaining the same thing.
They may have different words to describe it.
You know, it's exactly the same, only different.
So the first part of the book kind of gets into, as an overview, and it talks about Venus and
Mars a little bit and it takes you on a journey around the world that shows the similarity of the
stories told by different people and and then he kind of brings it together so here's another part too
that that I that he gives a lot of evidence for and he talks about how there are a lot of references
in mythology and biblical scriptures and religious texts that talk about how
the sun didn't always rise in the east and set in the west.
He talks about, in Plato's terminology,
revolution of the same is from east to west,
and revolution of the other is from west to east.
In the statesman, Plato put the symbolic language into very simple terms,
speaking of the reversal of the quarters in which the sun rises and sets.
A Latin author of the third century of the present era
wrote of the people living on the southern border of Egypt.
The inhabitants of this country say that they have it from their ancestors
that the sun now sets where it formerly rose.
The traditions of people agree in synchronizing the changes in the movement of the sun
with great catastrophes which terminated world ages.
The Chinese say that it is only since a new order of things has come about
that the stars move from east to west.
The signs of the Chinese zodiac have the strange,
peculiarity of proceeding in a retrograde direction, that is, against the course of the sun.
In the Syrian city, Ross Shamra was found a poem dedicated to the planet goddess Anat, who
massacred the population of the Levant, and who exchanged the two dawns and the position
of the stars.
The reversal of east and west, if combined with the reversal of north and south, would turn
the constellations of the north into constellations of the south and show them in reversed
order. As in the chart of the southern sky on the ceiling of Sinmont's tomb, the stars of the north
will become stars of the south. This is what seems to be described by the Mexicans as the
driving away of the 400 southern stars. Hebrew sources on the present problem are numerous.
In tractate Sanhedron of the Talmud, it is said, seven days before the deluge, the Holy One changed
the primeval order of the sun, rose in the west and set in the east.
You guys getting excited about this?
Pretty amazing, right?
So that's, it also goes on to talk about the reverse polarity of the earth.
The quarters of the world displaced.
So that's, that is a big part of the first one there.
Now I've got a couple copies because I try to keep a copy in each room and one in my car.
So that's, that was the one I was reading that I highlighted some stuff in the first part.
And here's one that I was reading.
highlighting some stuff towards the back part. So let's see what we got over here. This is this one
this one is quite a bit more about a this one kind of gets into some mythology of Hawaii
where I live and the different Pacific islands and so let me just go ahead and and read to you a
little bit about some of these ones here. The following is a passage from the
Surya Siddhartha, a classic of Hindu astronomy.
After an introduction, it proceeds only by reason of the revolution of the ages,
there is here a difference of times.
The translator of the ancient manual supplied an annotation to these words.
According to the commentary, the meaning of these last verses is that a successive great ages,
that in successive great ages, there were slight differences in the motion of the heavenly bodies,
explaining the term Bihah, which means a correction of time in every new age.
The book of Suria says that time is the destroyer of the world.
This part I found really interesting.
Bihah, which means a correction of time in every new age.
Have you guys ever spent some time thinking about how we measure time?
Well, Velikovsky goes into different,
calendars and how the some of the ancient people before us measured time and there is there is a very
interesting similarity in that a lot of people around the world measured time at 360 days
instead of 365 days they had a set of 10 months for yeah they had a set of and they had 10 months
instead of 12 months. When you think about that, there's still some residue of that because you look at, you know, September, October, November, December, right? September is seven, October is eight, November would be nine and December would be 10. But that's not the way we have them, right? December is 12, November is 11, October is 10, November is nine. So you can see that there's a little bit of, it's a bit obtuse, right? Because
The prefix on those definitely denotes the previous, what I said,
seven, eight, nine, and ten.
So that got me thinking as well.
Just the idea of how different calendars, you know, so many people live their life according
to the calendar.
So many people just go, okay, well, it's this holiday, okay, it's Friday, okay, it's Christmas,
and people let the calendar tell them what to do.
especially in America it seems like we're just so caught up on time management and
defining who we are by by how much people pay us for our time I think it's a huge problem
and I I often wonder if if we could teach a class my daughter's in kindergarten I often wonder if if we could teach them to see time differently
Is it possible that they could grow up and change the world?
Just by changing that one aspect at a young age of introducing them to a different idea of what time is.
I realize there's been a lot of money put into coercing and manipulating people to see things a certain way.
And I think one of those things is, you know, people,
to get paid by the hour or just seeing your time is money.
I don't, I think it's a horrible trade-off and constantly looking for ways to
pull the blinders off people so they don't have to, to see it like that.
You know, it's a, I've heard people say that time is a measurement of an, of objects in
space and it, it's an amazing thing to think about.
So, sorry for that little tangent there.
Let's see where else can we go here?
Here's one. The year of 360 days. Prior to the last series of cataclysms, when we, as we assume, the globe spun on an axis pointed in a different direction in space with its poles at a different location on a different orbit, the year could not have been the same as it has been since. Pretty interesting, right? Numerous evidences are preserved, which prove that prior to the year of 365 and a quarter of days, the year was only 300.
60 days long. Nor was that year of 360 days primordial. It was a transitional form between a year of
still fewer days and the present year. In the period of time between the last of the series of
catastrophes of the 15th century and the first in the series of catastrophes of the 8th century,
the duration of a seasonal revolution appears to have been 360 days. In order to substantiate my
statement, I invite the reader on a worldwide journey. We start in India. The text of the
Veda period known a year of only 360 days, all Veda texts speak uniformly and exclusively
of a year of 360 days. Passages in which the length of the year is directly stated are found
in all the Brahmannas. It is striking that the Veda is nowhere mentioned an intercalorie
period and while repeatedly stating that the year consists of 360 days nowhere referred to the five or six days
that actually are part of the solar year yeah it just it's amazing to me so i hope that a little bit of
this has got you guys thinking about is it possible is it possible that maybe we kind of went the
wrong way is it possible that some of our forefathers or
or our ancestors or the people that lived on this earth before us.
We're trying to write down literally what happened in these biblical texts
and due to us not having the mental capacity
or us maybe being steered the wrong way by corruption or money or leaders
that we have chosen to see the literal translation change into metaphor.
Is it possible that the powers that be,
or the leaders of our so-called countries have decided that it's better for us to just kind of live in amnesia than worry about the end of the world.
Is it possible that people have forgotten what sacrifice is and how lucky we are to be here and how beautiful every day can be if you just live it to the fullest?
You know, just, and going back, it just, in summary, it just gets me thinking that,
We are at the end of an age.
And a lot of people are quarantined right now
from a new type of plague almost.
I know you can make the argument it's a bio weapon,
but then I would make the argument
that the people that made that bioweapon of the plague.
It just, it seems that we are at the end of an age.
You know, on a side note, too,
if you go and look at NASA right now,
we're kind of passing through this,
these Apollo-type asteroids that,
I mean, it's kind of amazing that I think the last three days,
there's been four that have swung by within a,
you know, a,
they're far, but not far for a planet.
You know, there's something like, I don't know,
a million kilometers,
which in celestial terms is,
like a, I don't know, like a pair's breath away.
I'm surprised we haven't seen some things in the atmosphere that are burning up, or maybe you have.
So I just want to invite everybody to take a look at that.
And I hope you take a chance to get this book right here.
Let me show you this one here.
It's Worlds and Collision.
Can you guys see that there?
World's In Collision by Emmanuel Velikovsky.
It's actually the first book in a series of books.
It's a, and I've got them over here.
