TrueLife - What If We Treated Greed Like Depression? Rethinking Human Behavior, Ethics, and Healing

Episode Date: June 25, 2021

One on One Video Call W/George https://tidycal.com/georgepmonty/60-minute-meetingSupport the show:https://www.paypal.me/Truelifepodcast?locale.x=en_US🚨🚨Curious about the future of psychedelics? Imagine if Alan Watts started a secret society with Ram Dass and Hunter S. Thompson… now open the door. Use Promocode TRUELIFE for Get 25% off monthly or 30% off the annual plan For the first yearhttps://www.district216.com/Greed is usually treated as a moral failing — but what if it were approached like a mental health condition? In this episode, George Monty examines greed through the lens of psychology, ethics, and social systems.From personal behavior to economic systems, this conversation explores whether reframing greed as a condition could open new pathways for personal growth, societal responsibility, and collective healing.In this episode:Parallels between greed and depression as human conditionsPsychological, social, and cultural factors influencing greedRethinking ethics, accountability, and interventionHow compassion and awareness could transform behaviorImplications for economics, governance, and societyTranscript:Speaker 0 (0s): You're talking to the Rolex, wearing a jet flying that have a gun, and I would have a hard time holding these alligators. Well, well, wow. Speaker 1 (25s): Welcome back ladies and gentlemen, Speaker 2 (29s): Thank you for taking a minute to come back and hang out. Spend some time with me. Hope your days go. Well, all of a sun is shining. I hope the birds are singing all. If you looked in the mirror and were like, man, I'm a good looking son, have a gun. You know what? We should talk about what I was thinking about. How about new drugs? Right? I remember that old song. I think we, as a society need new drugs, Speaker 1 (1m 1s): Right? Like, let Speaker 2 (1m 3s): Me, let me just run you through my thought process for a moment. I was thinking about the potential for the Corona virus. Let's just pretend because it's true that the virus was made in a lab and they've used this CRISPR technology to go in and cut sections of the ACTG that match up with the other ACTG cheese. And they have engineered this virus to go and do things. They have created a spike protein, and they have created the RNA and chances are, it's probably a, it is probably bio warfare. Right? Okay. I know, I know everyone's sick and tired of talking about COVID me too, but it's imperative that I say that part. Speaker 1 (2m 6s): If, if we Speaker 2 (2m 8s): Can engineer a virus to kill people and spend trillions of dollars of our own money, right? Because that's where those viruses come from. We as the taxpayers give our tax money to the government who gives it to these black op projects and they make these killer viruses. If it's possible to make a virus that kills people, shouldn't it also be possible to make a virus that makes people more awesome. Speaker 1 (2m 37s): You know what I mean? Speaker 2 (2m 38s): I got a written down some notes here. Like, Speaker 3 (2m 42s): Let me tell you here. Let's see. Speaker 2 (2m 46s): Let me just read you kind of what I, what I wrote down. And then you guys will understand where I'm coming from. Speaker 1 (2m 52s): Reality unfolds Speaker 2 (2m 53s): Like a protein. The atomic is the same as the cosmic. The COVID pandemic is emblematic where mankind is today. That which plagues us is made by man. If we can create a virus that could wipe out the planet or a virus that could decimate the world population, should it not also be possible to create a virus that would empower the population? Think about that. I want to briefly go back to a first part of that paragraph that says the COVID pandemic is emblematic of where mankind is today. That which plagues us is made by man. Like we have created our own pandemic. We didn't need, we don't need help from nature. Speaker 1 (3m 55s): Like we Speaker 2 (3m 56s): Are our own problem in society. The COVID 19 pandemic is a great example of us getting in our own way. What the fuck are we doing? Am I the only one that thinks, oh, what the fuck are we doing that we were just producing to produce? It doesn't seem like we have any shared goals or sacrifice. Somebody gets up, goes to work to make a fucking money to buy shit we don't need. And what is the longterm fucking plan? Are we becoming super humans? Are we going to merge with technology? And if that's the case, why does anybody fucking know about it? I think if we're going to move towards something, shouldn't everybody be on board. Shouldn't we all be like, okay, this sucks right now. But in 50 years, we're going to be these cyborgs. You guys with me. I'm like, what the fuck are we doing? All right. You can get back. I got a bird walk in their for a minute. All right. What would such a virus look like? If we were going to make a virus that made the world better, what would that virus look like? You guys have any ideas. Does anybody have any ideas? If you have them share them in the comments, reach out to me. Let me know. Billions, if not, trillions of dollars goes in to the research and development in pharmaceuticals. Speaker 1 (5m 36s): Okay? Billions, Speaker 2 (5m 39s): If not, trillions of dollars goes into the research and development or pharmaceuticals to stop the suffering of mankind. It seems to me that the majority of these drugs have fallen victim to man's lack of imagination. You know, we have plenty of drugs that are aimed at stopping the symptoms. We have plenty of drugs that are aimed at alleviating the symptoms of suffering, depression, inflammation, stress, anxiety, restless leg syndrome, Speaker 1 (6m 23s): Wakefulness, right? All Speaker 2 (6m 26s): Of these, we have all these drugs that force you. We have all these drugs that allow you to mask the symptoms of despair, but not one. I haven't seen one commercial, one drug company that aims to fix the problem of greed. Not one. Let me ask you this. If we treated greed like depression, well, the world a better, how many people in the world, a depressed, everybody knows somebody who is depressed and you and your life. I'm sure that at some point in time, you've been depressed. People that struggle with depression are usually ashamed that they are depressed. Speaker 1 (7m 30s): Why it's a fucking hard, your life is hard. Of Speaker 2 (7m 34s): Course, you're going to be depressed when you're a kid dies. When you get everything you've got and then you get shit on, it's depressing, but you still got to get up and try. Can't give up, get depressed and then get over it and get back to it. But what about greed? If we, as a society can say that people who are depressed need medical attention, Speaker 1 (8m 6s): Then can't we as a society Speaker 2 (8m 8s): Also say that people who are a greedy need medical attention, Speaker 1 (8m 14s): If we could get Speaker 2 (8m 18s): The idea into the medical journals or the DSM and have all the psychiatrists around the world would be like, greed is a mental disorder. It's a mental disorder. Try and try and picture how that world will look. Hey man. Do you guys...

Darkness struck, a gut-punched theft, Sun ripped away, her health bereft. I roar at the void. This ain't just fate, a cosmic scam I spit my hate. The games rigged tight, shadows deal, blood on their hands, I'll never kneel. Yet in the rage, a crack ignites, occulted sparks cut through the nights. The scar's my key, hermetic and stark. To see, to rise, I hunt in the dark, fumbling, fear. Heiress through ruins maze lights my war cry born from the blaze.

The poem is Angels with Rifles. The track, I Am Sorrow, I Am Lust by Codex Seraphini. Check out the entire song at the end of the cast. Well, welcome back. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for taking a minute to come back and hang out. spend some time with me. Hope your day's going well. I hope the sun is shining.

I hope the birds are singing. I hope you looked in the mirror and we're like, man, I'm a good looking son of a gun. You know what? We should talk about what I was thinking about. How about new drugs? Right? Remember that old song?

I want a new drug. I think we as a society need new drugs. Right? Let me just run you through my thought process for a moment. I was thinking about the potential for the coronavirus. Let's just pretend because it's true that the virus was made in a lab. And they've used this CRISPR technology to go in and cut sections of the ACTG that match up with the other ACTG. that match up with the other ACTGs, and they have engineered this virus to go and do things.

They have created a spike protein, and they have created the RNA. And chances are, it's probably a, it is probably bio-warfare, right? Okay, I know, I know everyone's sick and tired of talking about COVID. Me too. But it's imperative that I say that part. If we can engineer a virus to kill people and spend trillions of dollars of our own money, right? Because that's where those viruses come from. We, as the taxpayers, give our tax money to the government who gives it to these black op projects and they make these killer viruses. If it's possible to make a virus that kills people, shouldn't it? also be possible to make a virus that makes people more awesome? You know what I mean?

I've written down some notes here like let me tell you here let's see let me just read you kind of what I wrote down and then you guys will understand where I'm coming from. Reality unfolds like a protein. The atomic is the same as the cosmic. The COVID pandemic is emblematic where mankind is today. That which plagues us is made by man. If we can create a virus that could wipe out the planet or a virus that could decimate the world population, should it not also be possible to create a virus that would empower the population?

Think about that. I want to briefly go back to a first part of that paragraph that says, the COVID pandemic is emblematic of where mankind is today. That which plagues us is made by man. We have created our own pandemic. We don't need hope from nature. We are our own problem in society. The COVID-19 pandemic is a great example

of us getting in our own way. What the fuck are we doing? Am I the only one that thinks, what the fuck are we doing? Like, we're just producing to produce. It doesn't seem like we have any shared goals or sacrifice. Everybody gets up, goes to work to make fucking money to buy shit we don't need.

What is the long-term fucking plan? Are we becoming superhumans? are we going to merge with technology? And if that's the case, why does anybody fucking know about it? Like, if we're going to move towards something, shouldn't everybody be on board? Shouldn't we all be like, okay, this sucks right now, but in 50 years we're going to be these cyborgs?

You guys with me? Like, what the fuck are we doing? All right. Get back. I got a birdwalk in there for a minute. What would such a virus look like? If we were going to make a virus that makes, that made the world better, what would that virus look like?

You guys have any ideas? Does anybody have any ideas? If you have them, share them. Put them in the comments. Reach out to me, let me know. Billions, if not trillions of dollars, goes into the research and development of pharmaceuticals. Billions, if not trillions of dollars, goes into the research and development of pharmaceuticals to stop the suffering of mankind.

It seems to me that the majority of these drugs have fallen victim to man's lack of imagination. You know, we have plenty of drugs that are aimed at stopping the symptoms. We have plenty of drugs that are aimed at alleviating the symptoms of suffering, depression, inflammation, stress, anxiety, restless leg syndrome, wakefulness. right all these we have all these drugs that force you we have all these drugs that allow you to mask the symptoms of despair but not one i haven't seen one commercial one drug company that aims to fix the problem of greed not one let me ask you this if we treated greed like depression. Would the world be better? How many people in the world are depressed?

Everybody knows somebody who is depressed, and you in your life, I'm sure at some point in time you've been depressed. People that struggle with depression are usually ashamed that they're depressed.

Why? It's fucking hard. Your life is hard. Of course you're going to be depressed. When your kid dies, when you give everything, you got and then you get shit on. It's depressing, but you still got to get up and try. Can't give up. Get depressed and then get over it and get back to it. But what about greed? If we as a society can say

that people who are depressed need medical attention, then can't we as a society also say that people who are greedy need medical attention? If we could get the idea into the medical journals or the DSM and have all the psychiatrists around the world be like, greed is a mental disorder. It's a mental disorder. Try and picture how that world will look. Hey man, do you guys hear about John? No, what happened?

Oh man, he came down with Silverstein, Rosschild disease. Oh man. Damn it, is he okay? No man, he's not going to be all right. They got him on they got him on like 500 milligrams of MDMA twice a day. So I mean he feels good but I guess once you come down with the Silverstein Rothschild disease then you know there's really no cure. So you just have to have this therapy all the time. Imagine if society put pressure on people that made over 50 million dollars like what a horrible person you are what a piece of shit you are 50 fucking million man I'm sorry for your family look where you live you live way up on Jesus Christ look at this place this guy's got the Silverstein Rothschild disease bad and we could make them into like pariahs

I think if you want to change culture you have to change the attitude of society and you have to change the way people think. We have to use our words as a virus. But I think that it's plausible to change greed into a medical ailment. What do you guys think? You know, like, let's think about how, you know, SSRIs and drugs for depression work. So they were taken orally. They cross the blood brain barrier and then they are an antagonist to like a 5H

2A receptor. I was pulling that out of my ass. I don't know for sure. But they usually flood the brain with a neurotransmitter like dopamine or something to that effect.

You know, I gotta think it's possible that people who are super greedy are people that are really high achievers. And, you know, it's not that it's not that you want to dis, you don't want to decouple high achievement from praise. But you just want to decouple the need for hoarding resources. And I think it can be done. There's a lot of people that probably say, well, you need greed so that people will have the ultimate carrot versus the ultimate stick. I just don't think that the monetary system is the right carrot. It's actually making the world work.

So let's get back to how the drug could work. We could, if you could do some sort of research and find out, like maybe people have a higher cortisol level. Maybe they have a higher stress hormone level or a higher adrenaline level. And then if you could use CRISPR to create a virus that would attack people's cortisol levels with like a shot of MDMA or something when they began finding themselves in this state of exuberance, then you could maybe alleviate some of that greed. Or, I don't know, I'm just kind of spitball in here. I'm just kind of throwing this out there just off the top of my head I'm not sure what do you guys think

you know what if we just had this you know what if we engineered you know how like some people get like catch the flu every year you get a flu virus and you feel like shit you can't get out of bed your body hurts what if we engineered like a happy virus and that like oh Jesus Christ

it's fucking it's happy virus season and you know all of a sudden you get afflicted by this shot of MDMA and you just go around hugging people and telling how much you love us and hey man here's a here's a thousand dollars for you see a homeless person you just give him a bunch of money you know you get a you get afflicted you get afflicted by this happiness virus where all of a sudden you have empathy with everyone like why don't we make that drug why don't we make that a virus we could have a whole new classification of them i think the world be better why don't we do some

research into that why don't we hey fyser get on it get on a fyser what about you eli lily Can't you guys make a happiness drug that helps people? Instead of trying to cure people, I don't even know if they try to cure people. They just try to make patches, right? I know what you're thinking. Isn't an antipressant, antidepressant a happy drug? What's an antidepressant? Why don't we make an anti-greed?

You see, the words we use fundamentally change everything. We could change our society, just, by changing our language. Is it that we cannot see that which truly cripples us, that which disables us, our environment, our relationships, our planet? Could we engineer an MRNA vaccine using CRISPR that would train our immune system,

a mandatory vaccine for people in positions of extreme authority, Perhaps this MRNA vaccine could target cortisol levels in the above-mentioned individuals. Whenever stress hormones or large spikes of adrenaline are noticed in the body, the newly created cells could flood the body with a quick jolt of MDMA. What percentage of millionaires and billionaires are divorced? I've had their children die. Is it the same statistically as the individual who makes the national average, the wage? Mental illness is often something people are ashamed of.

What if we began a social engineering campaign that treated greed-like depression? If we could list it in the DSM, if Pfizer made a pill for it, would it change the world? Let me know what you guys think. Hope everybody's doing well. And let me know what your guys' ideas are on a drug that would make the world better. But more than that, think about COVID-19 as a man-made virus. Or think about biological warfare. We can make germs that kill different races of people.

That's how far we've progressed in germ warfare. We can make biological weapons that do the most horrendous. things that make you bleed from every orifice and make your life hell. Why don't we apply that same imaginative horsepower to creating a drug that makes the world better? Just one. Just fucking one lab. Just work on that one. Like, think about the premise of it.

Like, we try to create these horrific weapons of war. to deter people from going to war. Why don't we try to create these spectacular weapons of love to help people to not go to war? You know what I mean?

Like, why do we have to spiral down the lowest common denominator? Why don't we create something better? Let's build back better. Build back better. Hey dummies, the people saying build back better are the same people

building better biological weapons. I don't trust them. Those are the people that need the greed drug. All these people in charge, like the World Economic Forum and all of our politicians and all of these corrupt individuals, like, do these people have a fucking mental disease?

We should pin them down and give them the new virus, give them the injection, give them the vaccine for their mental illness. But I think there's something to creating a man-made virus that makes the world better. Let me know what you guys think.

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