Trump's Trials - What happens when the federal government stops funding university research
Episode Date: April 28, 2025The federal government has cancelled about 11 billion dollars worth of university research funding, and is threatening to cut more. When the federal government stops funding research, there's no one e...lse to take on those costs. NPR's Elissa Nadworny has the story.Support NPR and hear every episode of Trump's Terms sponsor-free with NPR+. Sign up at plus.npr.org.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy
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The federal government has cancelled about $11 billion worth of university
research funding and is threatening to cut more.
NPR's Alyssa Nadwani reports that when the federal government stops funding research,
there's really no one else to take on those costs.
In the first three months of Donald Trump's presidency, dozens of colleges and universities
had their federal research grants frozen.
Some funds were canceled because of the shuttering of federal departments like USAID and the US Department of Education.
Others were halted in response to alleged anti-Semitism on campus.
Cancer research, diabetes, research in new wearable technology, farming solutions, early childhood development, and domestic violence.
Research across nearly every discipline and subject. The government-university industry
partnership for R&D built the American economy in the 20th century. Shailen
Jyotishi is the managing director of the Future of Work and Innovation Economy
Initiative at New America, a left-leaning think tank. After World War II, he says the federal government entrusted and deeply invested in
universities to conduct research and development. Everything from the iPhone
to GPS technology to fortified vitamin B has had its roots in
federally funded research. In 2021, the federal government gave colleges and
universities about 180180 billion across
dozens of federal agencies, according to the Government Accountability Office, a government
watchdog.
American research universities have been the envy of the world for a reason.
China and other competitors of the United States are borrowing from the American playbook
for innovation.
Jotichi says that the biggest worry is that if the government gets out of this
business, there won't be anyone to step in.
Industry cannot and will not pick up the mantle of the public sector in
supporting the R&D enterprise.
Sabrina Howell, a finance professor at NYU's Business School, studies
innovation and university research.
We would not have iPhones if universities like MIT that are federally government funded
hadn't worked on lasers.
That laser technology wasn't just used on the iPhone. It helped create semiconductors
that essentially power everything we use all day long.
No private company would take on on their own, both because it's really expensive.
It's not obvious what the commercial application is for all the work that you're doing.
And so only government can fund that kind of work.
While the Trump administration talks about handing this work off to the private sector,
Howell says it's just too expensive to fund that without a clear return on investment.
Her research shows that's because industry has a different motivation on investment. Her research shows that's because industry has a different motivation
on outputs. But there are experts who think changes could be made to this partnership.
It's time for someone to shake things up a bit.
Richard Vetter is a senior fellow at the Independent Institute, a libertarian think tank. He's
written about scaling back government funding for research overhead and administration.
And while he says Trump's arbitrary cuts aren't what he had in mind, it's definitely sending an important message
to colleges.
It's not perhaps the ideal way to change things. It may be a disruptive way to change
things. But on the whole, the attempt to reevaluate research grant money is a valid one.
He says maybe now that the public sees the high price tag of federally funded research,
there will be a way to make changes or disruptions without abruptly halting essential and life-saving
research.
Alissa Nadwani, NPR News.
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