TRUNEWS with Rick Wiles - Franklin Graham and Greta Van Susteren: Have Scientologists infiltrated Samaritan’s Purse and BGEA?

Episode Date: March 25, 2021

Today on TRUNEWS, host Edward Szall shares with the audience the response from Franklin Graham's remarks on Jesus and the COVID vaccine. Does the parable of the Good Samaritan really promote the use ...of the questionable Coronavirus treatment? Also, the team discusses the capitulation of Bible-believing churches to become COVID testing and vaccine sites. Edward Szall, Rick Wiles, Doc Burkhart. Airdate (3/24/21)

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The following program is made possible by the faithful prayers and financial support of listeners just like you. To find out how you can help, visit www.truenews.com. This is True News for Wednesday, March 24, 2021. I'm Edward Zoll. Franklin Graham has responded to True News' reports about his comments regarding Jesus Christ and COVID vaccines. He backpedaled by saying that Jesus would not need to be vaccinated since he is God, but he would encourage his disciples to be vaccinated. The controversy erupted when ABC News reported that pastors are preaching the virtues of COVID vaccines. ABC News quoted Mr. Graham as saying,
Starting point is 00:01:08 I would hope that the pastors in the pulpit would tell people how they can be saved from God's judgment, and that's through faith in Jesus Christ. I think for a pastor to tell someone not to take the vaccine is problematic because what would happen if that person got coronavirus and died? Then is the pastor responsible? I would feel responsible. Anytime there was a vaccine or something that could help protect you, he was an advocate for, he took it. I think if there were vaccines available in the time of Christ, Jesus would have made reference to them and used them. Today, Franklin Graham issued another statement that was posted on Facebook.
Starting point is 00:01:49 Join me to discuss this story and more. Our True News founder, Rick Wiles and Dr. Burkhart. Hello, Edward. Edward, obviously folks over at Samaritan's Purse and Billy Graham Evangelistic Association are paying attention to our discussion about Franklin Graham's comments. Now, I want to say this. I have always been a supporter and admirer of Franklin Graham and of his father. And I don't recall ever saying a critical word about Franklin Graham in the 22 years of his father. And I don't recall ever saying a critical word about Franklin Graham in the 22 years of True News.
Starting point is 00:02:30 In fact, I've encouraged people to donate to Samaritan's Purse. People have asked us when there's a calamity, and I've said, instead of giving to us, give to Samaritan's Purse. They do a much better job than us in responding to an actual disaster. That's not what we're set up to do.
Starting point is 00:02:50 But I didn't get up this week and say, I'm going to blast Franklin Graham. That didn't enter my mind on Monday. You've got to thank the Lord for the day, and we started analyzing the news. The news was that Franklin Graham had said Jesus would get a vaccine, denying his DOT. And he said this to ABC News. Yes. It wasn't some wacky, obscure podcast on YouTube that claimed that he said it. It was ABC News.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Yes, and it was repeated by CBN here. This is an article that was public on the 17th. Franklin Graham urges clergy to support COVID vaccines, says Jesus would have used them too. So Pat Robertson's CBN said, this is what Franklin Graham said. So because of that statement, we were compelled to respond. Yes.
Starting point is 00:03:51 Reluctantly. Because I've never had a desire to criticize Franklin Graham. But when you make a statement as a Christian leader saying that Jesus Christ would be vaccinated, Jesus Christ would tell other people to be vaccinated, in particular with the COVID vaccine. Let's get very specific. Franklin Graham was saying with the COVID vaccine. Look, I'm not anti-vaccine and that I oppose every single vaccine, but I have very strong apprehensions about the COVID vaccines because I also have strong feelings that the virus is a man-made
Starting point is 00:04:37 biological weapon from China. And therefore the vaccine has to be made to respond to a man made biological weapon. Right. So I'm I'm alert and I'm concerned. And I see these preachers who are just glibly telling church members and their followers, oh, go get the vaccine. It's a good thing to do. Be a be a responsible citizen to get the vaccine. And I don't know if these men like Franklin Graham and T.D. Jakes and Pat Robertson and John Hagee, do they even know what's in the vaccines? Do they know about the vaccine reactions? I don't know. Or the vaccine development, what the chain of custody and development was. I mean, we've looked at it.
Starting point is 00:05:26 We've talked about it here and everything. Now, you may be saying to yourself, well, you know, these guys have the freedom to say whatever they want to. That's true. That is true. But when you're in a prominent position of influence. Especially as a man of God. Right. Not only is Franklin Graham a leader of two major evangelical organizations, the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association and Samaritan's Purse.
Starting point is 00:05:49 I don't know how much more evangelical you can get than that or bigger than that. Prominent ones have been around for decades. He has a voice of influence and people trust that voice and they trust not only his voice, but the legacy of the name Graham. Okay. No matter what your opinions are about Billy Graham and everything like that, you have to admit that a number of Americans trust that name. Yes. Okay. So it's synonymous with American evangelicalism. Right. You said, frankly, Graham has a right to express his views. Of course he does.
Starting point is 00:06:27 And we're not trying to silence him from expressing his views. I believe in free speech. I make statements that people don't like. Right. And I get criticized. And people want to hold me responsible. And they have a right to do that. And I'm a big boy.
Starting point is 00:06:45 And when I come out here, I know that because I'm sitting in front of TV cameras and we are distributing this around the world, I know I'm going to get a response from people, and all those responses are not going to be polite or supportive. And that's okay. I'm a big guy. I can handle it. That's right. And I don't back down. I don't retract my words. I don't apologize. If I needed to, I would. Okay. But just because I express my views and somebody gets their feelings hurt, I don't have to apologize for that. Right. So what we said this week is Franklin Graham, who is by far the most well-known evangelical Christian in America.
Starting point is 00:07:38 And so basically... Clearly is. So basically the number one evangelical, the evangelical pope, if you will, has said. Jesus would be vaccinated. Yeah. Yeah. That's what got me set up, set off, Doc. He said Jesus would be vaccinated. And I said, wait, wait a minute. Jesus Christ to be infected with a virus. And Jesus Christ is pure life. Jesus Christ went around healing all manner of diseases. He's the great physician.
Starting point is 00:08:15 Right. Yes, the great physician, not the great vaccinator. No. I mean, Jesus didn't say to his disciples, hey, gather up all the sick and let's get them vaccinated. Yeah. Lay hands on them. Wait. No. Lay plunging needles into them. So Franklin Graham made a statement today. Yes. And he somewhat backpedaled, put some space between what he said earlier to ABC News. But then he doubled down on some other things.
Starting point is 00:08:47 Edward, let's read the statement. This is the post taken from Franklin Graham's official Facebook account. The internet is full of articles, theories, data, and opinions concerning the COVID-19 vaccines, both positive and negative. There's a lot out there for you to read. I have been asked my opinion about the vaccine by the media and others. I have even been asked if Jesus were physically walking on earth now, would he be an advocate for vaccines? My answer was that based on the parable of the Good Samaritan in the Bible.
Starting point is 00:09:22 I would have to say yes. I think Jesus Christ would advocate for people using vaccines and medicines to treat suffering and save lives. In this scripture passage, Jesus told about a man beaten and wounded, lying on the roadside as religious leaders passed by and didn't help. But a Samaritan, considered a social outcast of the day, becomes the hero of the story when he stops and cares for the injured man, pouring oil and wine, which were the top medicines of the day, on the man's wounds. We also know that Jesus went from town to town healing every disease and sickness.
Starting point is 00:10:00 He came to save life, to offer us eternal life. Did Jesus need a vaccine himself? Of course not. He is God. So my own personal opinion is that from what we know, a vaccine can help save lives and prevent suffering. Samaritan's Purse has operated COVID-19 emergency field hospitals. We have seen the suffering firsthand. I also have staff and their family members who contracted the virus and spent weeks on a ventilator and months hospitalized as a result.
Starting point is 00:10:30 I don't want anyone to have to go through that. Vaccines have worked for polio, smallpox, measles, the flu, and so many other deadly illnesses. Why not for this virus? Since there are different vaccines available, my recommendation is that people do their research, talk to their doctor, and pray about it to determine which vaccine, if any, is right for them. My wife and I have both had the vaccine, and at 68 years old, I want to get as many more miles out of these old bones as possible. All right, let's take this line by line. Mr. Graham said the internet is full of articles, theories, data, opinions concerning the COVID-19 vaccines, both positive and negative. Obviously, that's true.
Starting point is 00:11:18 But my reply would be that True News started reporting on coronavirus in January 2020. Yes. I don't know of any Christian media organization that was talking about coronavirus in January 2020. I don't know if they were talking about it in the summer and fall of 2020. Right. But we were talking about it in early January 2020. And we have done a lot of research.
Starting point is 00:11:50 We've read a lot of news articles, a lot of reports. Yes, from all around the world. Done more than just read them, we've analyzed them. Yes. That's right. And we came to the conclusion that coronavirus is a man-made biological weapon produced by China in a military hospital, a military laboratory in Wuhan, China. The question is, was it accidentally released or
Starting point is 00:12:15 deliberately released? That we do not know, but I lean toward the view it was deliberately released in the United States and Europe to bring about the great reset of the world. Right. The introduction of global communism. Now, this seems to be over the head of most of these evangelical leaders. Yet they were quick to acquiesce to it because part of that reset was the shutdown of their churches. Yes, you got it. That's exactly it. They submitted to the Great Reset. And so now people like Franklin Graham and John Hagee and T.D. Jakes and Pat Robertson have become government propaganda agents on behalf of coronavirus vaccines. And so they're not questioning the origin of the vaccine. I mean, the origin of the virus. There's no pressure coming from these major ministries to the government. Tell us where
Starting point is 00:13:12 the virus came from. Rather, their response is tell us what we can do to get our churches back open. Isn't that right at the core of it right there? Tell us what we need to do to get our churches back open. In other words, we don't care where the virus came from. I don't know if these preachers even know that it came from a biological warfare lab. I don't think they know about it. Let alone the noted inclusions of HIV molecules. This isn't something that we're saying. This is a warning from experts. And it
Starting point is 00:13:45 also is important to note that Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx just so happen to be experts in HIV. They were appointed by President Trump during the pandemic. And we pointed that out in the spring of 2020 when President Trump appointed Fauci and Birx. We said, well, wait a minute. These two are HIV AIDS experts. Why have they brought in AIDS experts? And then we went back to the to the Zero Hedge report in February and said, look, it has HIV in the virus. And that's why Zero Hedge was immediately deplatformed by Twitter. If you said HIV and the virus, you got deplatformed. And yet these preachers like Franklin Graham and T.D. Jakes either don't know about HIV and the virus or they're not going to talk about it. I don't know what it is.
Starting point is 00:14:38 I can't speak for them. I don't know. None of them talk about the origins of the virus. None of them. None of them are using their vast media presence, their vast influence as evangelical leaders to force the U.S. government and force the news media to discuss the origin of the virus.
Starting point is 00:15:01 They're not telling their church members. Most Christians sitting in churches have no, well, they're not telling their church members most Christians sitting in churches have no well they're not sitting in churches but most of their followers have no idea that this thing came from the Wuhan lab there's no talk about it whether you accept or reject the vaccine
Starting point is 00:15:18 has to be based on all the available information that you have access to you're being limited in the information that's being given to you. If your pastor just says, trust the science, trust the vaccine, and he's not questioning where it's coming from, where its origin is. That is a big gap that a lot of evangelicals, a lot of people in the church in general, avoid
Starting point is 00:15:40 because they don't want to be labeled conspiracy theorists. They have fear of the media, fear of... Fear of man. Right, of who controls the media. They have that fear. And so that's why they don't talk about the origins of the virus. They don't talk about the development and the research and the research line, data lines of the vaccines that we talked about, about abortion and connection
Starting point is 00:16:06 with all of this. They don't want to talk about that. It's a trust the science. I question the science. I don't trust it. I question the science. I think it's good for me to question. I don't question science. I question scientists. There you go. That's better. I can handle science. It's lying scientists I don't like. And not every scientist is honest and truthful. That's right. A lot of them have motives, have agendas. So, Doc, they don't talk about the origin of the virus.
Starting point is 00:16:42 They don't educate the churches about it. But this thing came out of China. President Trump knew it. He'd called the China virus, but he never said biological weapon, did he? Right. Why? Why did he? Why was there a limit on President Trump?
Starting point is 00:16:57 He wouldn't cross that line. And yet I believe he knew it was a biological weapon, but he wouldn't say it. He's certainly saying one thing to the public, another thing to Bob Woodward behind closed doors. But Rick, you've been walking the Lord for many decades, much longer than me. What did you take when the Good Samaritan comparison that Franklin Graham used in his Facebook post there? He said, I have been asked if Jesus were physically walking on the earth now, would He be an advocate for vaccines? My answer was that based on the parable of the Good Samaritan in the Bible. I would have to say yes, I think Jesus Christ would advocate for people using vaccines and
Starting point is 00:17:34 medicines to treat suffering and save lives. Alright, I would reframe that question though. I'm not against vaccines. I'm against vaccines that use aborted babies to make them. But is that even a correct usage of a comparison to the Good Samaritan? It was an odd. I mean, it's really stretching scripture to use the Good Samaritan story. But it's the Good Samaritan story everybody knows.
Starting point is 00:18:02 Even if you're not a Christian, you know the story of the Good Samaritan. But the Good Samaritan didn't get a vaccination needle out and say, here, you need a vaccine. Right. The story is about kindness and mercy to somebody who is injured and how religious people ignored the person who needed help. Right. That's the moral of the story. Not that he needed a vaccination. So somehow Franklin Graham tries to,
Starting point is 00:18:30 but Doc's right because everybody knows that story. Oh, the Good Samaritan. Yeah, he would vaccinate that sick guy on the road. And so even those that aren't Christians would take this story and they'll repeat it. Well, you know the story of the Good Samaritan, Edward, right? I mean, the Good Samaritan, he would, you know, we need to be Good Samaritans. We need to make sure we've got the
Starting point is 00:18:47 vaccine. Have we been bad Samaritans up until this point for not advocating vaccines? Well, that's the implication there. But it is, I do think it's strange in his statement there that he says that Jesus would be an advocate for vaccines. I don't know. I can't answer that, but I can't think that Jesus would be an advocate for vaccines that I don't know. I can't answer that, but I can't think that Jesus would be an advocate for vaccines that were made from aborted babies. I'd imagine the things Jesus would advocate for, he said he advocated for. Jesus Christ would not promote vaccines. He would heal people. He would heal people. He healed people then. He heals people now. He's still God. He's still God. He's still healing people today.
Starting point is 00:19:28 If you know Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, he is the same yesterday, today, tomorrow. He is still healing people. He's not vaccinating people. Mr. Graham said that, well, referring to the samaritan story all right so what does the scripture say about jesus now when the sun was setting all they that had any sick with divers diseases brought them unto him and he laid his hands on every one of them and healed them. It doesn't say he laid his hands on them and vaccinated them. He healed them.
Starting point is 00:20:12 This is not hard to understand. There's no story about a temple mass vaccination site. Okay, Jesus laid his hands on it. Actually empowered his disciples to do so, too, with the Holy Spirit. Yeah. Yeah. They would have if you believe this stuff, the rabbis would have been opening up the temple. Right. Bring them down to the temple. You know, every Thursday is mass vaccination. Get them down here to the temple. We'll have a blessing, a blessing of the of the vaccine. Isn't that what they're doing now, Rick? Yes're opening up the churches, not only for testing sites,
Starting point is 00:20:48 but also for vaccination sites. The churches have given into this. We're no longer in the healing business. We're in the vaccination business now, even though it's not truly a vaccine. And that's the scary part. Mr. Graham said, I also have staff and family members who contracted the virus and spent weeks on a ventilator and months hospitalized. I don't want anyone to have to go through that. Vaccines have worked for polio, smallpox, measles, the flu, so many other deadly illnesses. Why not for this virus? It's, you just said, it's not a vaccine. It only suppresses the symptoms. Does Mr. Graham not understand they're not vaccines? They call them vaccines, but a vaccine is to prevent you from being infected with the virus. So why do you get a polio vaccine?
Starting point is 00:21:37 What's the purpose of having a polio vaccine? So if I come in contact with somebody with polio, I'm not infected. All right. What's the, Edward, you know, this is a very tough scientific question, but if you get the smallpox vaccine, what's your expectation about smallpox after that? I'm protected from it. Okay. Or it doesn't work, right?
Starting point is 00:21:57 But with these vaccines, what are we told? Well not only will you have to take a shot, you'll have to take a second and third shot. And that won't keep you from getting coronavirus. You'll still have to social distance and you'll still have to wear a mask. It will. How's that a vaccine? Because it will only suppress the symptoms when you get infected. That's right. It's a symptom suppressant, not a vaccine.
Starting point is 00:22:22 It's like taking. You know, you know, a flu pill, you know, when you got when you have a flu and you take you take some type of, you know, over the counter, over the counter medication, so you don't feel so sick that night and get some sleep. That's all the fact this fake vaccine is doing. It's suppressing the symptoms. And yet they got people believing that, hey, you get vaccinated. You're not going to you're not going to be infected. And yet they know that that's not true. And out of the other side of the mouth, they say, no, you've got to still be you still got to wear a mask. You still need to socially distance. Yes. You can only have one family group over to your house,
Starting point is 00:23:06 nobody from outside your family. We can vaccinate it. We can only open it. You might be asymptomatic. They taught us about asymptomatic patients. Just square this for me. If you are taking something that suppresses symptoms, meaning you're not showing them anymore, don't you become asymptomatic? Absolutely. You're a carrier. You're actually producing carriers. You're the carrier and you're infecting other people. Instead of you fighting through whatever is attacking your immune system and allow it to build up, allow it to do its work, your God-given immune system, okay, we've been
Starting point is 00:23:41 dealing with the flu for 100 years, okay? Yes, there are susceptible members of the population that are more prone to flu than others, but not the entire population, not the whole population, which is their argument. Now, this is a symptom suppressant and we need to make that absolutely clear. But you know what it is? It's also the gateway for no matter what organization is, but we're focusing specifically on the church today. The church has capitulated because they want to get the churches back open. They want the churches back open. They're going to do everything they can to get the churches back open. If it means having to set up testing sites, vaccination sites, they're going to do it, Rick. They're doing it because they're giving in.
Starting point is 00:24:23 They've given in already. And the pastors and the evangelical leaders have submitted to it. They've just laid down, roll over. Doc, if the two of us didn't really know anything about any of this stuff and you got vaccinated and I'm not. My attitude would be if I didn't know any of this stuff, my attitude would be, and let's say Edward has not been vaccinated. My attitude would be, I got to stay away from Edward. He might get infected, but I can go over to Doc's house. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:55 That's why. Because Doc's vaccinated. Right. I won't get it from him. I could probably get it from Edward. But the truth is, I could get it from both of you. That's right. Because just because you're vaccinated with it from both of you. That's right.
Starting point is 00:25:05 Because just because you're vaccinated with it doesn't mean you will not be infected and you will not be contagious and spread it to other people. And then they just won't know you have it. That's right. Doc is more likely to not be taking care of himself because he thinks he might be fine. It's worse than that. I'm more likely to spread it. Yes, according to Dr. Vandenbruch.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Yes, because you're going to go out everywhere. You're going to go out everywhere and say, hey, I'm free. Look, in our family, our extended family, not my immediate family, some relatives have been vaccinated. One of them said to Susan recently, hey, I'm vaccinated.
Starting point is 00:25:40 I can get back to life as normal now. Really? He obviously hasn't read the small print. He doesn't know. He thinks he thinks he's safe. He's protected. Now he can get out of his house. Now he can go around anywhere he wants to go because he's vaccinated. You're not. But he is. And and something ought to be done with you because you haven't been vaccinated. But he has the vaccination. he's safe. That's, this is the misconception, let's say the deception
Starting point is 00:26:10 that the vaccine industry has transmitted to the American people, to people in Europe and around the world. And either Franklin Graham does not know these things and is talking without the knowledge, or he does know it, and he's going along with the program. Well, let's help him out. In one case, it's been very odd.
Starting point is 00:26:35 Out of Hawaii, KITV4, ABC News, three Hawaii residents fully vaccinated against COVID-19 are infected with coronavirus. Now, when we say fully vaccinated, does it mean they've had one shot? Multiple shots. Multiple shots, Rick. And how could this be? Well, I'm going to say... Because it's not a vaccine.
Starting point is 00:26:56 No, I'm going to say because they put the virus in their bloodstream. That's why they have it. Because it goes back to what the Dutch doctor... Go to Vandenbosch. And he is warning that we're going to have a global calamity very soon because the vaccines are spreading the virus. And he's not a kook. He worked for the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, worked at Gavi. Has Franklin Graham read his report?
Starting point is 00:27:22 He's an expert. He knows more about vaccines than Franklin Graham, and he's warning the world. There's going to be a calamity because of these vaccines. Let's look at another. Jesus would have had vaccines. So country music legend Larry Gatlin from the Gatlin Brothers. He tested positive for coronavirus after receiving the Moderna messenger RNA vaccine.
Starting point is 00:27:49 He says, what are the odds? What are the odds that I would get infected after getting vaccinated? Larry, they put the virus in you. Yeah, to quote Dolly Parton, vaccine, vaccine, vaccine, vaccine. It's that. What do you think they injected in you? Kool-Aid? Now that went in your brain.
Starting point is 00:28:10 You drank the Kool-Aid. And they put the virus in your blood veins. The truth is many have died. According to the official reports, there's been paralyzations, blood clots. Suffered in Europe. Oh, trust me, the European Medical Association made it very clear, though there have been occurrences,
Starting point is 00:28:32 we are saying, with all our authority, it has nothing to do with the vaccine that's been administered. But we will halt the administration of the vaccine. That's right. One thing that Franklin Graham said, I think it was in his first statement on Monday, he said, if a pastor tells his people not to be vaccinated, somebody in the church dies.
Starting point is 00:28:53 You know, is he going to be does he feel responsible for that? He said he'd feel responsible. Yeah, he would feel responsible. Well, what if you tell them to be vaccinated and they die? Do you feel responsible for it? What if you tell them to be vaccinated and they die, do you feel responsible for it? What if you tell them to be vaccinated and they're paralyzed? What if you tell them to be vaccinated and they have a stroke? Will you feel responsible, Mr. Graham?
Starting point is 00:29:12 I want to show you. I want to read to you a prayer request that came in today. It's from Linda. Linda, I want to know. I read it. I prayed. I prayed. Personally, I prayed for your son-in-law today when I read this prayer
Starting point is 00:29:26 request. Linda said, my son-in-law in Michigan was just taken to hospital by ambulance. Much of his body feels paralyzed. He's 52 years old. He took the COVID vaccine about 10 days ago, got really sick, then tested positive for COVID. He was feeling almost normal again. But this morning, things turned bad. Mr. Graham, do you feel responsible for this man's paralysis? He followed your advice. He got the vaccine.
Starting point is 00:30:03 He said Franklin Graham should be vaccinated. He went, I got vaccinated. And now he's paralyzed. Do you feel responsible? Well, see, I'm taking the view that I have to be responsible and warn people that people are dying from the vaccines. They're being paralyzed. They're having strokes from the vaccines that the one vaccine, the Moderna vaccine, alters your DNA, that the vaccines have been produced with stem cells derived from aborted human babies, that the Regeneron drug, not the vaccine, is made with humanized mouse cells. Yes. Part human, part mouse.
Starting point is 00:30:44 That's what President Trump took. Yes. Made him feel 20 years younger, remember? Are you Superman? Does anybody want to talk about this in the church? No. The church leaders have their heads buried in the sand? Or are they being paid?
Starting point is 00:31:01 What's up? What's going on here? Because this is end time stuff that we're talking about right now. Mr. Graham said, my wife and I both had the vaccine. Well, that's your personal decision. Right. If you feel good about having the vaccine in you after knowing what we know about the vaccine. That's your choice. That's your choice. My question, Mr. Graham, is which vaccine?
Starting point is 00:31:31 Which one did you get? Is it Pfizer that causes blood clots? Is it Moderna with its messenger RNA that changes your DNA, alters your DNA. How do you feel about aborted baby stem cells inside your body? Or how do you feel about using aborted baby stem cells to test the vaccine? Is that okay, too? How about testing it on infants? How many infants have died and we don't know anything about it? And another psychopath, what raving mad psychopath test an experimental vaccine on a little infant who does that kind of stuff? I'll tell you who does it. Hitler and the Nazis. That's who does those kinds of
Starting point is 00:32:23 experiments on humans. These people, these pharmaceutical companies, they ought to be in prison for crimes against humanity. You're testing experimental vaccines on little one-month-old infants? For real? And the government is allowing them to do it? That's right. Encouraging them to do it? That's right. Encouraging them to do it. Enlisting pastors to endorse the vaccine and get their congregation out for their shot.
Starting point is 00:32:54 Well, there's another question we've had for Franklin Graham. Aside from vaccines, we have a question about Scientology and his relationship with Greta Van Sesteren. Now, we touched on this Monday. Now, we've established that Greta Van Sesteren certainly is in the Church of Scientology, believes strongly in their ethics. Actually, her and her husband are at a high level in that cult. This is the Palm Beach Post in May 2006. At home with Greta Van Sesteren, a Scientologist.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Number nine for control. It turns out Greta Van Sesteren, as we've covered on Monday, is working with Franklin Graham's Samaritan's Purse. She's actually heading a charity in Haiti, an orphanage. This is number eight for control. A new home for Haitian orphans. Right there. Greta's home. This is a Samaritan purse orphanage in Haiti
Starting point is 00:33:54 named for Greta Van Susteren, who is a high-level influential Scientologist. Now, I've got to tell you, up until this week, I did not know her involvement in Scientology. You and most Christians. Yeah. How did I find out? I started researching Franklin Graham this week.
Starting point is 00:34:12 Right. I don't even know what got me to go to the Gretta Van Susteren. I don't know. I have no idea. I would tell you, this is what I think, the Holy Spirit, because I don't know what motivated me to go down that road and start looking at Greta Van Susteren. I don't know how long Greta Van Susteren has been a personal friend of Franklin Graham and his wife. I don't know. So I'm not going to guess. I can just say that
Starting point is 00:34:37 personally, I can think back many, many years when Greta Van Susteren was on Fox News, that Franklin Graham was on Fox News with Greta Van Susteren. Greta Van Susteren went to Haiti with him after the earthquake. The earthquake was what, 2010? Yes. So at least 10, 11 years, maybe before that, I don't know. I don't want to make a statement because I don't know. I just know that Greta Van Slusteren and Franklin Graham have been seen together at ministry events and on television for many, many years. Here's a photograph. Now, this was at a retreat for veterans up in Alaska. Samaritan's Purse owns this big retreat center up in Alaska.
Starting point is 00:35:26 It's kind of like a hunting lodge. And so they had a number of veterans that they brought in, and in order to give them words of encouragement and provide fellowship for them, one of the featured speakers there was Greta Van Susteren and her lawyer husband there, prominent Scientologists. There you see. That other photo, that was John, her husband.
Starting point is 00:35:50 And there is, again, clearly with Franklin Graham, multiple photographs with Franklin Graham over many years. Now, I got to tell you, back when Greta Van Susteren was on Fox News and she would interview and promote Franklin Graham, I thought, this is a wonderful thing. Sure. I did. I thought either she's a Christian or Franklin Graham is having an influence on her. And she's genuinely moved by his work in Haiti and other countries. And this is a good thing.
Starting point is 00:36:25 And I just had nice, warm, fuzzy feelings about Greta Van Susteren working with Franklin Graham. I just assumed she was a Christian. Right. I had no idea until this week. And I found out she's not a Christian. She is a high-level, influential member of the Church of Scientology. Now, why is this really important? Because Scientology is a cult.
Starting point is 00:36:53 It's a satanic cult. Its leader, its founder, was L. Ron Hubbard. He wrote a book decades ago called Dianetics, back, I guess, in the 60s or 70s. And and then from there, couldn't make it as a sci fi writer. So he started a religion. He started a religion. And but he started he started Scientology. With high level Freemasons in Satanist, one prominent, the highest-level Satanists on the planet, Aleister Crowley.
Starting point is 00:37:31 You can't get any darker than Aleister Crowley. Crowley was a close friend and associate of L. Ron Hubbard, the founder of Scientology. Now, Hubbard died, and he was succeeded by David Miscavige, I believe is his name. And he is right now the ruling grand poobah, the highest ecclesiastical official of the Church of Scientology. Well, Mr. Miscavige,
Starting point is 00:38:04 his mother is or was the accountant to Greta Van Susteren's law firm. Right. So she has a direct connection with the elite of Scientology. Not only is she a prominent Scientologist herself, she is directly connected, has family connections, business connections, with the leading officials of the cult of Scientology. Doc, if you found out that my accountant here at True News, that her son runs the biggest satanic cult in the country. I'd have to question your judgment, Rick. I really would.
Starting point is 00:38:46 I guess so. And it would be a rightful thing to do. Every viewer and every listener would have to question your judgment. Why would Rick hire someone that has an association with a satanic cult? Right. Isn't that fair? You would question my discernment, my judgment, my decision-making, my fitness to lead a ministry. So this is why we're asking Franklin Graham to explain his close relationship with Greta Van Susteren and her husband,
Starting point is 00:39:18 knowing that their position is a very high level in the Church of Scientology. Now, is Mr. Graham going to tell us he's been witnessing Jesus Christ to Greta Van Susteren and her husband? Well, I hope so. Tell me about it. But why would you name a building for her? Why would you name a ministry mission for a Scientologist? Why would you invite her to speak at Samaritan Purse events? Why would you promote her? Why would you allow them to use Samaritan Purse resources? They were flying around on the Samaritan's Purse jet. So, I mean, are these not honest questions? They're very honest questions, and they need to be asked.
Starting point is 00:40:09 I put out a statement today on Gab and Twitter. This is what you told and actually have asked Franklin Graham and others. Franklin Graham is a longtime friend of Greta Van Sesteren and her husband John. Both are high-level, influential members of the Church of Scientology. Mr. Graham has been photographed often in their company. The Samaritan's Purse Greta House in Haiti was named for her honor. Greta Van Sesteren's accountant
Starting point is 00:40:40 is the mother of David Miskovich, the supreme ecclesiastical leader of the Scientology cult. Mr. Miskovich is the protege of the late L. Ron Hubbard, founder of Scientology. Hubbard was a close associate of Aleister Crowley,
Starting point is 00:40:58 the most wicked Satanist in the past hundred years. Mr. Graham, please explain your odd relationship with a key leader of a satanic cult. Is there a Masonic connection? Have Scientologists infiltrated Samaritan's Purse and Billy Graham Evangelistic Association? These are fair and actually very pressing questions, I think, for anyone to move forward to take the work of Franklin Graham and his running of his father's ministry serious. I'm very sincere in desiring to hear Franklin Graham's
Starting point is 00:41:32 explanation of his long time association with Greta Van Susteren and her husband, Mr. Graham, of their membership and their level of influence in the Church of Scientology? Were you aware? If you were and you have an explanation for that, let's hear it. We want to hear it. I mean, were you trying to evangelize them? All right. You've had 20 years to do it. How's it going?
Starting point is 00:42:06 Well, you're naming orphanages after them, okay? You're inviting them to retreats to speak to your supporters. Did you tell, did you warn your supporters in the audience, I need to tell you that these two people are cult leaders? Right. Is that how they were introduced? When you brought the veterans to that retreat up in Alaska, and you took them fly fishing and everything else,
Starting point is 00:42:32 and Samaritan's Purse, your Christian organization, did you tell the veterans that were attending this Christian event that you had a couple of Scientologists that were speaking to you that week? Were you using her or was she using you? So who's the handler? Well, we know that Scientology, according to Lena Ray, a recent whistleblower coming out of Scientology, they had a plan to infiltrate different sections of society,
Starting point is 00:43:00 specifically Hollywood. In this case, you have to wonder, was Greta Van Susteren the media ambassador to use her position in media to get into places like Samaritan's Purse? Precisely, Edward. They infiltrated Hollywood. They have infiltrated other places. Have they infiltrated Samaritan's Purse and the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association. These are legitimate questions that we must ask today and expect an answer from Franklin Graham. And we encourage current and former employees of the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association
Starting point is 00:43:36 and the Samaritan's Purse to reach out to us. We need you to speak about what you've seen inside the organization. Yes, if you are currently an employee of those two organizations or a former employee, and you saw unusual things during your time of employment involving Greta Van Susteren on the property of the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association or Samaritan's Purse. Let us know. Please let us know. Look, we were the first news organization to talk about the strange photograph of Jerry Falwell Jr. on the yacht.
Starting point is 00:44:23 Right, yes. And we said, this is weird. This is strange. And we didn't know what to do the yacht. Right. Yes. And we said, this is weird. This is strange. And we didn't know what to do with it. Right. But we weren't afraid to touch the story. We said, this is strange. This is really weird.
Starting point is 00:44:33 Then what happened later? Months later, then the story came out. On Black Mill Sextant. And where's Jerry Falwell right now? Well, right now he's in a treatment facility this week. Is that where he's at? Yes. So we're asking Franklin Graham for some legitimate, serious answers to these questions. Please explain
Starting point is 00:44:53 the involvement of Greta Van Susteren, a Scientology cult leader. Why is she involved in your ministry? And maybe people should write and call this Bill Graham Association and, you know, the Samaritan's Purse. There might be people who support these organizations out there. They're giving. You probably want to know the answer to this question. You know, Doc, the reason I ask, is there a Masonic connection, is because Masons were involved in the founding of Scientology. Yes. That's why I asked the question, is there a Masonic connection?
Starting point is 00:45:28 Because the Masons are forever infiltrating organizations and churches and police departments and hospitals. They're everywhere. Was it the Order of the East Orient Elite? The OTO. OTO. Mm-hmm. So anyhow, these are our questions. I want to get back to preachers pushing vaccines instead of the gospel.
Starting point is 00:45:54 Let's go to Dallas, Texas, Rick. All right. Potter's House. Everybody knows Potter's House because T.D. Jakes, he's another prominent. I don't know what you call him. He's not evangelical, by the way, but you would think he was, by the way, everybody touts him and stuff. But Potter's House in Dallas, Texas, and actually this has been going on a couple of weeks now, Rick. They are a vaccination hub for coronavirus.
Starting point is 00:46:18 I used to attend that church in my early days at TBN. Wow. When I moved to Dallas-Fort Worth, many, many Sundays, I drove over to the Potter's House on Keist Avenue in Dallas. And back when hardly anybody knew who T.D. Jakes was, except the TBN audience. And so now we see the Potter's House parking lot is packed with cars of church members who want to be vaccinated because T.D. Jake says not just church members, Rick, the community, the whole community. The reason why they're having the Potter's House is because there wasn't enough room for all the people over at the K.
Starting point is 00:47:00 Bailey Hutchinson Center in Dallas. So Potter's House stepped up and they said we can do it. So, yeah, hey, we got a video from, let's see, NBC, the NBC affiliate in Dallas, Fort Worth. Right now, a brand new COVID vaccine clinic is up and running in the city of Dallas. It's at the Potter's House, that mega church on the southwest side of the city. Our Ben Russell is live there this midday to explain more. Hey, Ben. Hey, good morning to you, Evan. This site where we are will eventually replace the one that's been going on in downtown Dallas at the Kay Bailey Hutchison Convention Center. For the time being, this is an additional site because what will happen downtown at Kay Bailey is that will be
Starting point is 00:47:43 a site for people who received their first dose of the vaccine there. They will still go to that site to get their second dose of the vaccine. As for what's happening here again on the southwest side of the city just off of loop 12 just north of I-20 these people here are getting their first dose of the vaccine. The belief is this location here will allow for better traffic flow and will provide better access to the underserved minority communities on the city's south side. And they believe that the influential Bishop T.D. Jakes opening up his property for this will help legitimize the vaccine for people who may still have been skeptical up to this point. Mayor Eric Johnson of the city of Dallas spoke here this morning about his expectations about expanding access to the vaccine and about mask
Starting point is 00:48:25 wearing. He is no fan of the governor's decision to remove the mask mandate. And he's in fact, taking measures to try to counteract that decision here in the city. I'm going to issue an order mandating that masks be worn at all city-owned buildings. We have to do what we are legally allowed to do to get people to wear masks. Mayor Johnson stressed that this pandemic is by no means over and pointed to this line as evidence of that. And he says that no one referencing the governor and his removal of the mask mandate come this coming Wednesday. He says no one can simply make the pandemic go away by fiat. You heard it right there, Rick, that even if you do get the vaccination, you're still going to have to mask up.
Starting point is 00:49:21 What was the Dallas mayor, Eric Johnson? If you're vaccinated, you shouldn't get the virus. That's the way vaccines have worked in the past. Is anybody using their brain and asking questions? Well, why would I have to wear a mask? I'll tell you why. Because you're still going to get infected and you're going to spread it to other people. There's an Ad Council campaign. I've seen different figures. This article says $50 million. I saw other figures of a half billion dollars for advertising promotional materials to convince the public that they should be vaccinated. Well, now, this Ad Council campaign is targeting churches,
Starting point is 00:50:11 and we have one of the Ad Council PSA commercials that is aimed at Christians. Watch it and listen to the propaganda. COVID-19 has changed how we express our faith and gather to worship. Now it's time to take the first step that lets us get back to spreading the word without spreading concern. Before we can safely come together, we need the facts. As COVID-19 vaccines become available, you may have questions. Should I get it? Is it safe? Should I wait? It's smart to question. Now, get the facts at GetVaccineAnswers.org so you can make an informed decision when vaccines are available to you. Get vaccinated and you can get back to spreading God's word.
Starting point is 00:50:56 That's right. So none of those people were wearing masks, though. That's the implication, that once you've been vaccinated, you won't have to worry about that. But we've been told that even after you have been vaccinated, what they're calling a vaccination, you will still have to wear a mask. You're still going to have to social distance. You're still going to have to sit six feet away from your family at church.
Starting point is 00:51:16 Come on. Hey, we got another one from the Ad Council aimed at churches. Watch this. 2 Timothy 1, verse 7 says, God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind. COVID-19 has hit our community hard, but we must not fear. God is with us. God works through us and provides a way for us through God's words, through medical treatments and doctors.
Starting point is 00:51:57 But you may still have questions, and that's okay. Questions like, is it safe? What if I have a pre-existing condition? Where can I get it? It's good to have questions, because questions lead to answers. And answers will help us find our way. People of color were part of the testing of the vaccine. People of all backgrounds, people who had pre-existing conditions. I liked that.
Starting point is 00:52:25 I thought that made me more confident. So get the facts. Visit getvaccineanswers.org. So that you can make an informed decision when vaccines are available to you. And then we'll be able to do what we've been missing so much, have live worship experiences.
Starting point is 00:52:42 Serving others. And connecting with one another in person as soon as we can. Learn more at GetVaccineAnswers.org. Did you see that little text at the bottom of the screen talking when they talked about certain conditions apply. We'll be able to go back to church. We'll be able to go back to church. And what did they put at the bottom of the screen? When government guidelines allow for it.
Starting point is 00:53:12 Allow us to reconvene. When government guidelines allow churches to reconvene. We can get back to church, folks. We can get back to having choir. We can get back to having Sunday school. When the government says so. When the government says so. Look down at the bottom of the screen, guys. Thank you, folks. We can get back to having choir. We can get back to having Sunday school. When the government says so. Look down at the bottom of the screen,
Starting point is 00:53:28 guys. Thank you, Control. When government guidelines allow, allow, allow, allow us to reconvene. Why doesn't the government require vaccine commercials to include the side effects?
Starting point is 00:53:44 You do on every other kind of medical thing, don't you? Or inclusion that this is only available through emergency authorization right now because they rushed through the process to create this vaccine. Among other things, Rick, it's not a conspiracy theory to say that there have been side effects. I mean, this is pure propaganda, what you just saw there. Yes, aimed at church members. Yes, they misrepresent the whole picture. Okay, I get the internet's a big place, but it's not hard to find the articles about the
Starting point is 00:54:16 side effects, about those who've had paralyzation and other side effects, even death. All right, I've got a question for these pastors. Now that I see that tens of millions, maybe hundreds of millions of dollars is being spent by the Ad Council on promoting acceptance of the vaccine. Right. And they're targeting churches. What I'd like to know is how much money is the Ad Council spending on religious television and radio? How much money has CBN received to promote the vaccine? Has Franklin Graham's ministry received money from the Ad Council to promote the vaccine? How about your favorite Christian TV network? Or how about your favorite Christian TV network? Or how about your
Starting point is 00:55:05 favorite Christian radio station? I managed a Christian radio station. I received money in the past from the ad council to promote hate. Let's end homelessness and hunger in our community, right? The same thing is happening now. Money gets changed hands in these ad council campaigns. You're saying a kickback. Not a kickback. They're buying ads Yes, the ad council says we will they have an ad agency the ad ad agency would contact CBN or any of these Christian media organizations and say we would like to spend a million dollars in One week on your network or whatever the figures are, you know, sign us up. We'll wire the money to you.
Starting point is 00:55:49 Wouldn't that pose a conflict of interest? No, not to these guys. No, not at all. It's selling advertising. So if you see ad council advertisements running on Christian television or you hear it on Christian radio, then you can be certain they receive money. And the great part is that these spots that run on Christian TV bypass all the nonprofit rules,
Starting point is 00:56:13 Rick. Oh, yes. So that's right. Now, I have another another question, and I don't know this. I don't know the answer. I'm just, you know, I just think of things things what have you thought now i think about things and i just wonder okay so joe biden's uh big covet relief bill what was it 1.9 trillion dollars right was there a section in the covet relief bill that set aside money to reward social influencers who encourage people to be vaccinated. Well, that would be a quick back. No, that's... That's how business is done.
Starting point is 00:56:58 Yeah. You're encouraging social influencers to encourage people and you're helping the government fulfill public policy. That's right. That's the way they sell it. Well, that's not the job of the church. A kickback, that's not a kickback. A kickback is, hey, I'm awarding a contract,
Starting point is 00:57:17 and I'm going to give the contract to you, but you've got to give 10% of the contract back to me. That's a kickback. What is going on with the government is the government says, here's our public policy. Our public policy is we support abortion. Our public policy is we support homosexual rights. Our public policy is this. And then here is government money for your organization to promote the public policy. Now, all 501c3, oh, I got to stop talking. We're almost out of time. No, it's education every single day, Rick, and I appreciate you sharing
Starting point is 00:57:50 that. Thank you for joining us for today's edition of True News. Please share this Godcast. God bless you. The preceding program is made possible by the faithful prayers and financial support of listeners just like you. To find out how you can help, visit www.truenews.com.

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