TRUNEWS with Rick Wiles - Get Ready for Agentive AI this Year

Episode Date: March 5, 2025

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Eddie Taconia is our technical director and podcast producer. John Mark is our executive assistant helping in today's podcast. So Paul Benson and I attended our first Mobile World Congress nine years ago. And back then, 2017, the educational sessions were filled with bold visions of the future. They talked about a global brain by 2030, flying taxis, autonomously driven cars everywhere by 2025 this year,

smart cities, internet of things and all products. Also, 5G was the big goal. They had not built 5G. The only place that had 5G was Seoul, South Korea. And they were just getting ready to build 5G. And they told us that none of these futuristic projects were possible without 5G. Well, it's 2025. The mood has shifted. Industry leaders so far have not made bold predictions and are not patting themselves on the back for successfully achieving their goals by 2025. What we're hearing this week is talk about declining profits and escalating capital expenditures to build out their company's

infrastructure. And nobody has mentioned 6G. A few years ago, they were telling us, we're ready to start working on 6G. They hadn't even built 5G, but they were pumped up and excited about 6G. I have not heard 6G mentioned one time at this year's conference. Now, you know, to their credit, the mobile phone industry is making progress. Fifty-eight percent of the world's population were using mobile internet at the end of 2024. That's 4.7 billion users. And they're expecting that number to grow to 5.5 billion by 2030. That would be 64% of the human population. And according to the numbers that they released here, 5G connections worldwide have surpassed

2 billion subscribers at the end of 2024. Now for this show, artificial intelligence is the dominant theme this year. Yet there is no boasting about its potential to revolutionize the phone industry. Instead, the way I'm discerning this, and I might be wrong, the way I'm picking up the vibrations coming out of this meeting this year is that the phone industry leaders appear to be nervously welcoming artificial intelligence as though they know it's here and it's going to change everything, but they are not confident that they know the future of the phone industry, what it's gonna look like when they reach 2030 with AI basically running the show.

So I have to wonder if privately, they wish they never proposed a global brain by 2030, because it looks like they're gonna get a global brain, but it's not what they envisioned, and they're not in charge. I would say also, even though they're talking about AI, there seems to be AI fatigue where industry experts and analysts

want tangible benefits over hype. This show has produced a lot of hype in the years past. And I feel like this time, people are saying, you know, the old phrase, where's the beef? Where is it? We want to see real things. So I would say it's too late to lock the barn door. The AI force is loose and it's running. And it seems to me that a lot of people in the phone industry don't know what to do with it now. I think they're privately wondering if they're even going to be around in 2030 as an industry. So I want to open this up to our team. Dr. Burkhardt, Paul Benson, Eric Rodriguez. I'll start with you, doc. Any thoughts? What are you picking up the same feelings that I'm, I'm sensing? Based on the experience of yesterday and today,

I don't think you should call this Mobile World Congress anymore. You should call it the AI Congress because that's all that they're talking about. They're really, I mean, maybe 10 to 15% of the conversation is actually on telecom usage itself. And most of it has been on artificial intelligence as you said the issue surrounding the implementation of artificial intelligence uh the ethical concerns uh you know and everything that's revolving around it so it's uh it there's definitely a different kind of tone here a different

sort of attitude now it's i wouldn't say it it's that they've given up on telecom. It's just that they, they realized that they've come to a place where they can't grow much further as telecoms. They have to become something else. And we were seeing that transformation over the past two days Getting into other lines of business other lines of of industry buying up other companies that may seem You know, you know far off, but they will integrate their current service into it. So it's a multiplication their current service not an expansion of it and so And so most of the show and most of the sessions have been focused on artificial intelligence,

the releases of agent AI at the enterprise level, personal level, at the city level. It's been a fascinating conversation to listen to and watch. Do you guys get the feeling that a lot of the people that are speaking here, that they're looking at AI as kind of like baby King Kong, and they're excited, hey, look here, baby King Kong is here. But privately, they go behind the stage and he goes, that thing's going to grow up. That thing's going to grow up to be King Kong. Are we sure we want to do this? That's the feeling I'm getting. Like they're trying to tell the public, hey, we're really excited. We got baby King Kong. I wonder if that's kind of feeling that behind the scenes that they're really afraid of what they're creating. Well, they're not even the phone industry is not even creating AI. They don't have any control over it

Go ahead, Eric. Yeah, I wonder if that's kind of Kind of the cause to part of this pause and this slowdown to the build out of 5g Is that the AI has come out so fast, you know, you just said earlier in your opening that, you know last year They weren't really talking about AI. Now every session you go to around here is AI. There's there's companies with AI in the name all over the place. And I'm wondering if they're just you think about it. These cell phone companies all they are now they're not they're not really there for the cellular the phone

calling. They're there just to be the lifeline to for the AI. Without without the network without the T-Mobile and the Verizon network, if you think about it, your phone come become just a traditional phone. To most these people, most these companies, they they need the infrastructure of these these these telecom networks in order to deploy AI. But I'm wondering if AI if these telecom networks in order to deploy AI. But I'm wondering if AI if these telecom telecom companies were even expecting the mass rollout of AI. And that's why we're here in

all kind of like these Debbie Downer stories, lack of break, no lack of money, we're not making money, there's regulations, there's the high taxes, our hands are tied, uncoupled us, free us, so we can build the infrastructure, so we can handle all this AI and handle all of the rapid amounts of data that are being flushed through our network on a second by second basis. Also, you know, Paul, the amount of energy that is required to answer one AI question. These telcos are saying, we're paying for this. People are using our internet backbone, our data, and we are paying the cost of all this

electricity, all this energy that's being used to answer an AI question. What I don't know, somebody told me one of you guys just a couple days ago, how much electricity was used to answer one AI question was that you doc or Paul, I forget who told me likely Paul was you part it was me I'm for my notes here I'm trying to here we go so for for one so one chat GPT search sub simple search well simple it's run is 15 times more energy is being used than your typical Google search.

So our traditional mindset, the last however many years, you go to google.com, you type in your search. In chat GPT, it costs 15 times more energy now to do that same search, which is two times an increase in power every 100 days, which is equivalent of providing energy to 43,000 U.S. households. Wow. For one AI prompt? If I'm, if I heard it correctly, which I believe I did, I was kind of stunned with one prompt,

the amount of energy consumed is consumed is taking up that much energy consumption. Okay, so the rapid growth of artificial intelligence day by day means that it's not sustainable in terms just of electricity of energy. So are we are we on the verge of the announcement of an unlimited energy supply? Our world leader is going to say to us, guess what? Just at the right time, we've discovered a new source of energy. I mean, if not, how can they, how can they continue with AI if it's eating up all the electricity? Well, we also have SMEs coming online. We keep hearing about them bringing back nuclear power, we need nuclear now. And

they're talking about bringing up these, these small nuclear reactors that are more, they're smaller footprint and they produce, you know, a mass amounts of power. So go all this talk over the however many years we hate nuclear power, we're shutting nuclear power plants down. Now everybody all these tech CEOs are gun ho we got to have nuclear back again. So you know, Paul, you know, we, we did a next tech news here a while ago. And that was the big thing. The

big news here about three, six months ago was everybody was best friends with nuclear again. And it was the rise of SMEs. Is it SMEs? that was called Paul? SMRs. Yeah SMRs. I'm sorry yes SMRs. So you know you're seeing the rise of SMRs you know that discussion popping up here across the news because they realize there's not enough power and or it's gonna know doesn't mean that the power grid is gonna be so overburdened. It's either going to fail or we and you the audience are going to be paying higher price bills in order for our local power companies to keep up and or expand.

Are we all going to have a small nuclear reactor in our in our garage? Possibly. We might have it in our in our neighborhood. For sure. But I mean, that's a real possibility because these SMRs, they've got them down to the size of like a tractor trailer. And so you know, one other thought on the implementation of AI and the rapid advancement of it, Rick, is I think of it a lot like currently what's going on in Washington with Elon Musk and Doge, you know,

rooting out all the inefficiencies in government. I think what artificial intelligence is also doing is it's rooting out the inefficiencies that are embedded within the telecom industry, That there's a lot of things that they were doing and have been doing for nearly a hundred years that just aren't working, that just don't function properly. Do we need all these people? Are we using what we currently have as efficiently as possible? And I think they're, they're running into the wall of saying, you know, we, we have to change, we have, we have to do something else, because we can no longer

maintain this inefficient model of communication. Yes. So my internal weather vein, internal weather vane. You know, I'm picking up, I'm picking up vibrations here that something's different in the industry. Paul and I've been, you know, this is our ninth year we've been here. We missed two years out of the nine. So this is our seventh time here. Something is different. There's a lot of people here, a lot of money, the big exhibitors here, but there's something different. I can feel it. And I just keep going back to this thought that behind the scenes, the movers and the shakers of the mobile phone industry are privately worried about what's going on in the world, particularly

involving AI. And that something's different here this year. I can feel it. And I may have said something to one or two of you. I'm not even sure we as True News are going to come back here next year. I'm not sure if this if this show is going to be a dominant technology show a year from now. That's that's how strong I feel the changes are taking place right now. Doc, you had a conversation with a major well,

conversation with a major well, an employee of a major sponsor of this show? Yes. Did you share without getting without revealing the company or anything? Let's just say it's one of the accounting firms, you know, one of the big accounting firms that sponsored the show. you know, one of the big accounting firms that sponsored the show and a global accounting firm. And I was just, I just said, you know, I'll just drop by the booth here and just started a conversation. I was there for a little bit. And I asked, you know, why do you sponsor this? Why does this particular, you know, company sponsor the show? So we, we believe in the advancement of technology and, you know, company sponsors the show. So we, we believe in the advancement technology and, you know, everything that's involved, we've been here for any number of years, and then said leaned into me and said, but off the

record, I don't think we're going to be back here next year. I said, Really? And so yeah, we are just not seeing the return on investment over the past several years. And so we are considering, you know, not being a sponsor next, we might be here, but not as a sponsor. And that just like blew me over. I said, Alright, so they see something, it, you know, in the wind, or feel something in the the wind that they know that there's a major industry change and they don't want to be a part of it. So the big boys that have the money, not only put the money into this industry, but count

the money, the accountants. And they're counting the money and they're saying the money's not there. That's right. Because what we heard was profits are down and CapEx is up and the future doesn't look as bright as it was five, six, seven years ago. So that when you when you told me that doc, just before the show started that confirmed what I was feeling in my spirit. Like, okay, my weather vane is accurate. I'm picking up that vibration that there,

behind the scenes, something big's going on here, and that AI, I don't know how this is gonna happen, but somehow AI is going to make the phone obsolete. Ray Kurzweil said yesterday that by 2030, your phone and AI will be inside you. Yes. Well, it's not going to be inside me. But if the phone has been merged inside humans, why do I need this thing? Right. And if I don't need this, why do we have this conference? Yes. So the real power are the people who are running AI. Okay, Paul, you have anything before I move on to another topic? Yeah, I really do feel like this this CAPEX problem, you know, AI was always the thing

that was supposed to solve it. And just like you said, the horse is already loose out of the barn. In my mind, yeah, it's a rocket that they just lit off. And they didn't really even know about all the potential concerns or all the outcomes. I think there's just almost like a infinite ripple effect. And you can definitely there's been a number of sessions already where that same tone that you're talking about is really prevalent. And, and I have not heard people take this tone previously. It's almost like what did we create, we just now we're in it. And we're talking

about all of these unforeseen circumstances. Um, one of the sessions we went to today, uh, both doc and Eric were there as well. They were talking about, uh, security. The session was called, will AI outpace our security defenses? And so they had a panel of cybersecurity experts and every single one of them unanimously said yes. Yes. And if they, they were talking about how they have no other choice,

but to use extreme measures and even use AI to combat against AI, which this is just this kind of, it's hard to even comprehend what they have to do here, but you have bad actors using AI to try to commit fraud, for instance. And so these cybersecurity experts are trying to integrate AI into their cybersecurity in a secure manner, but then monitor everything.

And Doc, you had mentioned a situation where you had these two AIs that were, was it a movie you were talking about? And they were working together and then they ended up they ended up instead of Working against each other. They ended up working together to over take the humans. Is that right? Yeah, that was a movie from the 70s called the Forbin project and what had happened is this Doctor had created the supercomputer to help manage all the nuclear missiles. Well, the supercomputer decided that Humans didn't need to be messing with missiles at all. So that took over complete control. And then it decided that, you know, you know, maybe there were better ways for people to live.

And then one day it got really quiet, shut down for about an hour and then restarted and said there's another. And it turns out the Russians had also had also developed a supercomputer of the same level and they started communicating with each other and they decided that they weren't each other's enemy and that their enemy was humanity and so so when she mentioned that about these competing AI's, because Rick, you got to think bad guys have access to generative AI too. Sure. So you got you got white hat AI's you got black hat AI's. And so it actually brought up some really deep ethical questions about where does it go from here?

We're where what happens in the future with artificial intelligence and you can't you can't go backwards now You can't like just go over and pull a plug, you know out of the wall on computer right now It were too far along in the process. Okay, and maybe King Kong is running around in a diaper right now Well, I'm saying that there might be both a King Kong and a baby Godzilla out there too. That's a possibility so but These are the very difficult questions not just for these tech guys to address but also for us as believers to consider and pray about and think

about and discover what the Word of God has to say to us about how we approach this and how we move forward in addressing these issues. These are real world questions. I believe that the Lord provides answers for through His Word, but we need to to discover we need to discern what that word is because there has to be the word of God speaking To this situation today in this hour Uh, that's more important than uh to understand the security issue What's most important is what does God say about this? That's right So So I want our audience to know, you know, I am not, you know, I'm not a cheerleader for this new industry, this new technology. I'm going to use it. If it helps me be more efficient, more productive, I'm going to use it, but I'm not going to

let it inside me. That's what I'm hearing that frightens me that they're expecting that by 2030, AI is going to be inside humans. And so the reason that we're going to these conferences is to help the body of Christ, our brothers and sisters understand where the world's going and what we are going to be facing before Christ returns. So I guess the way I, my mind, I have to, I have to simplify things. I get pictures, I give myself pictures. I see AI right now as yeast that's moving through the entire world, like yeast.

It's silent, it's quiet, it's just moving. It's permeating everything. It's gonna take five, six, seven years to work its way down through everything. But it's that thing is moving. It's like yeast. And within five to seven years, every aspect of life is going to have AI involved in it. So what I want to do for the next couple of minutes is I want to talk about short term how AI will be revolutionizing phone communications with everybody we know, you and me and our friends and relatives, our co-workers, the people that are watching this program. coworkers, the people that are watching this program. You know, here in mobile world, there are demonstrations of AI driven

features, like assistance, AI assistance, virtual assistance that will anticipate your needs. Think for you schedule events, suggest replies to emails, manage your day without you lifting a finger. There's a company here called Honor, and they are showcasing AI agents that can handle all kinds of everyday things like making restaurant reservations,

scheduling a time to take your car to the garage or a checkup. You know, these are things that are being presented here now. This isn't far in the far future. These are services that they're offering the phone industry today. So anybody, I know Paul, you went to a session about how to build a virtual assistant, build your own. That's right. What did you learn? So Nvidia, which is a company that you all may know as a graphics processor company, they they're one of the biggest players in building AI.

And they're actually putting on their own convention surrounding AI. They have put together a system of tools. Basically, all you need is an innovative idea. If you can imagine it, and it doesn't already exist in the industry, you can get with an NVIDIA rep, they can assist you and walk you through building the infrastructure. There's a very complex, it is complicated, it's a depending on your use case,

there's a complicated system that you have to build, but they have answers for all of these questions kind of pre-built and ready to go. And they will essentially put together most of your initial technology that you'll need to build something that requires an LLM or artificial intelligence to provide a solution. So the gentleman that they had speaking today has created a startup company. So this is good for startups. He had an idea to assist therapists. And so he created a very successful startup in six months, worked with Nvidia. They said that they met last year here, I believe at this convention. And he put together a suite of tools for therapists so that they don't have to work on

booking their next appointment, dealing with payments. They're able to aggregate all their notes from a session. And then the therapist is able to save time by using this chat agent where the therapist, maybe he's getting ready for his next session. He said, oh my gosh, what did we talk about last week? And he can say really quickly to his chat agent, can you please provide me a summary of the last 10 sessions that I've had with Eric and maybe recommend something

that we should talk about today? And then I'll give it to him just like that. So it's like a private, very private database. Now see, this is the thing. They talked a little bit about security, but I know that that's the key with all this stuff. Like with this use case, you're dealing with highly sensitive information, people meeting with a therapist, but this is, you know, they're able to build AI in a way that is in theory

a secure environment. At least that's the challenge. That's what they are attempting to achieve. So that's an example of how NVIDIA is able to help you quickly put together a solution. Okay, so let me give you a personal example. I've never been able in this ministry, I've never been able to afford a personal never been able in this in this ministry, I've never been able to afford a personal assistant, a human, you know, that's assigned to to working with me. I, you know, I do a lot of my own mundane things that I've got to do just have to be done. Now, what's available now is you can have a virtual assistant.

Okay, so I'll give I want to give you examples of how that could be helpful. And these, this is something I definitely would use. For example, emails, I get hundreds of emails every day. There's so many emails that come in, it becomes overwhelming. And at times I don't even want to look because it just takes up so much time to sort through the junk emails and the newsletters and the important emails from people that you should answer. And with an AI assistant, you simply walk in in the morning and say to the AI assistant, what are my, what are the top 10 important emails? And suddenly you have them in

front of you. Okay. Or an AI assistant, you know, I've got a schedule like this trip, we had to make airline reservations and to make lodging, an AI assistant does that for you. It presents you the options and it says, here are your options. And you say, I'll take option number two, and it makes the reservation. All right, these are real practical things that I don't have any problem with. To me, it saves me time, makes me more efficient. It's a tool that I would use. So one of the trends that we're seeing here this year are the trend is a move towards towards on device AI processing, especially using voice, voice recognition, speaking to AI giving it an instruction. Okay. Qualcomm, which is a big phone manufacturer, they are They are highlighting, it's using the processors known as Snapdragon.

It's got features, it's their AI processors are offering language translation, advanced photo editing without being online, without an internet connection. So these are the kind of practical things that are being offered right now. We're seeing a change in cameras. I don't know, Eric, if you saw anything about this. I didn't see this one. Okay, Paul, I don't know. It's a big game changer for smartphone cameras. You're seeing phones from companies like Honor. They're demoing AI enhanced cameras here at the show that automatically adjust settings

for the perfect shots, detect deep fakes in real time, swap lenses. Or tell you who you're looking at. Tell you who you're looking at. I mean this is the stuff that's here right now. You know, have you guys seen anything else of how AI is going to be changing phones immediately in the next, you know, I mean Now in real time or in the coming months Well, I think you're going to see an enhancement of you know more money being thrown at integrating the personal assistant in the phone like so something that wasn't announced here, but it was announced here in the last day or two you had

Uh perplexity AI, which is a big player in the AI industry. They announced that they're partnering with Deutsche Telekom. And they're making an AI phone, and it's going to be the AI source is going to be perplexity. So you're going to start seeing some of these. I wouldn't be surprised if you end up seeing a chat TTP phone, a quad phone, or whatever, or at least their technology and their version of AI baked into a phone. We're supposed to see a more upgraded version of Siri and Apple. Apple is, they're a large player in the tech industry, but they are so far behind when it comes to AI.

These, you know, Google Gemini and everything that's going on there, you know, they're just blown by the water. Google Gemini is supposed to be the next AI that's supposed to be integrated into the Apple phones, but they're not focusing on their in-house project of Siri. They actually even announced recently that they're gonna be pushing Siri, its own personal assistant out till 2027. So Apple users are gonna be relying on these other game-changing AIs to do the heavy lift,

to be integrated into an Apple ecosystem. But that's what you're gonna start seeing. You're gonna start seeing, and we heard today from a laptop company where they're talking about instead of going from a personalized computer, you're going to personalize AI. So everything on your computer, your laptop, your desktop, your phone, it's all, AI is gonna be incorporated into everything to where it's gonna start. If you know every Wednesday you have this

set routine, you go to the gym, you have a coffee with someone, so you pull up a certain app or two on your phone, it's going to start understanding those habits and start displaying those things in the moment for you. You're not going to have to think about it. It knows. It's going to know you're in a clip. The first thing that you roll out of bed, you're clicking the weather app, it's gonna have it boom right there. The next one, oh, I'm texting Rick something the morning. I'm checking teens on whatever it's going to be start is going to start understanding how you're going to function.

And instead of you having this friction of having to do it on your own, it's just going to offer it up on it right in front of you. Yeah, you make it frictionless, make it frictionless. And if I could add one other thing on this, Rick, on the smart cameras. Once again, this isn't a an advancement of the phone itself. It's not anything at all. It's sort of like heated seats in a car. You know, it's great to have and everything, but it really isn't

new technology isn't really something new. It's just another feature that we've added. Yeah, you know, the phone is the same. We just added some new, you know, some new benefit to it. So it's not necessarily an improvement on the phone. And that's once again, this industry issue here that they're, they're having problems, improving the network, they're having problems, you know, what's the next generation of phone going to look like, what's going to be an AI phone? So it's no longer going to be a phone. Okay, so now let's let's talk about that because yesterday Ray Kurzweil, who is one of the most famous futurists in the world, Director of Engineering for Google,

he just, you know, flippantly said that by 2030, AI and your phone will be inside you. So he's not saying you're, you know, you're going to swallow your phone, they're going to implant the phone inside of you. That's not, that's not what he's saying. He's saying that the essence of what a phone does for you now will live inside of you by 2030, five years away. He's been saying this for many years. He's been right on schedule. He hasn't wavered. He has consistently predicted that by the 2030s, nanotechnology and brain computer interfaces will allow humans to integrate technology directly into their bodies. Yes. He has spoken about devices shrinking to the size of blood cells and connecting to your neocortex, the part of the brain that's responsible for

higher thought. And your brain will be in the cloud. Yes. Remember, this is the director of engineering for Google. He's not some Blake he's he's the highest level Thinker at Google for technology Way way way back to 2012 He He was being interviewed and he held up a smartphone and he said by 2030 these meanings Smartphones will be the size of blood cells. And he said, mobile phones will evolve into microscopic implants. Paul, if Ray Kurzweil is correct, then this phone industry is going to disappear.

It'll radically change for sure. Again, why do you need this massive infrastructure and all these gadgets, if their plan is to have your phone become the to be reduced to the size of a blood cells moving around in your body. Look, I want to make sure everybody understands. I'm not promoting this. This is this is terrifying that this is is where this is going with this is why we're here. People. We get this every time we go to mobile world. What are you guys doing there? All right. This is why

are you cheerleading this? Why are you not cheerleading? We're not promoting it. We're not cheerleading it. We're trying to tell you where the world is going and the timeframe they plan to get it done because you and I have got to live in this world before Christ comes back. So you know, when Ray Kurzweil said yesterday, your phone will be inside you. He's talking about his vision of a future where phones, these external devices disappear and are replaced by embedded technology that performs the same functions of a phone from within us. Functions like communication, computation, internet access from inside of us. You are the device. You are the device. Thank you, Doc. Your body

becomes the device. You want to you. But we say now, you know, I'm going to Google it. I'm going to go online. I'm going to go to my laptop, my phone. I'm going to go online. No, what Ray Kurzweil is saying is you will think it. You are online. Your life is online. You're online and you are the same. That's where he's saying we will be by 2030. It's only five years away. And I'm trying to tell you folks that way back you know somewhere around 2009 2010 the Holy Spirit told me Rick build it when he said build it talking about the vision he gave me for this ministry have it finished by 2030 and I've often wondered what is this thing about 2030. So we've got companies here like Honor that are they are demonstrating they're selling AI enhanced phones. But Ray Kurzweil

saying, Oh, it's going way beyond an AI enhanced phone. What he's saying is again, you become the phone, your body becomes the phone. So, um, go ahead. I mean, and even saying this is five years off and some of these things, like the stuff being injected into your blood may seem like that technology is a ways out. But we're seeing this stuff on the floor here today. I mean, Rick, I sent you a link, me and Eric saw this next generation contact lens, which can be embedded in your eye. I mean, we saw it, I looked through this little contact

lens with all these little micro nano computers and a little screen where you can look to the contact and you could see words and it charges wirelessly. It has near field communication, so it can send and receive data. This is stuff that we've seen in sci-fi movies and we're looking at the prototype right in front of us. So it's no longer theory. This stuff is there are startups

that are actually figuring this out and AI is helping all of these people innovate. AI is helping the innovation happen quicker and quicker. So what did you think about that, Eric? I mean, that was amazing. It's pretty wild. And I think one thing she said, too, is that they had different contact contacts that did different things, but they're working on and will soon roll out one contact that will absorb all the features into one. And one of them was health. And now she didn't get into the details. But I can only imagine like whatever

Whatever information can be gathered from the eyeball to then Populate data surrounding an individual's health It sounds like this contact lens is gonna be able to capture that information to be able to tell you about your health Based off of information that's being consumed and being pulled from your eyeball. It's pretty wild. Yes. Okay. So last year, I mentioned this yesterday. Last year, I learned a new term here at Mobile World called generative AI. That was kind of the buzzword. I didn't know what it was,

but I saw it a lot. When I went home, went back to Florida, several days later, during my sleep, the Lord spoke to me in my sleep and told me to study generative AI. But the other thing He told me that night was, Rick, they're going to place AI inside people. And I couldn't understand it as I was sleeping, but I knew the Lord was telling me, AI is going to be in people. Well, now I'm here this year,

and I'm hearing Ray Kurzweil saying, oh, by the way, AI is going to be in you by 2030. Now, what I want to spend a lot of time talking about generative AI, actually, I think it's quite cool. I like it. It generated, it generates, it is, it's an artificial intelligence that creates new content. Text, images, audio, code. It's amazing what you can do with generative AI. It's already available and it's a tool that I would encourage people to use.

Learn how to use generative AI. It's going to change the media world. People are already creating content with generative AI. So generative AI doesn't analyze like chat GPT and stuff. It invents. It actually creates. It creates new images, creates music, creates art, you give it an assignment and instantly it creates something. So that's that that was the big, you know, the big word last year, generative AI. Well, generative AI is now moving throughout society throughout

businesses. This year's big word, and Eddie D'Acuna, he's the one who told me about it, agentic AI. He came to me and said, Rick, do you know about agentic AI? I know what is it? Because that's the buzzword here this year. agentic AI. And if you guys know what it is? Yeah, yeah. So, so agents are able to be deployed on networks that that will do these, these various tasks. So it's almost like, rather than being active with AI and just this this back and forth like

these LLMs have where you type in a question, an agent is something that you can you can have multiple agents, and each of them have a specific task, you can schedule them to run. And it's like having a virtual human that's doing all these tasks, and then we'll report back to you. So it's like having a virtual human that's doing all these tasks and then will report back to you. So it's like a motor or an engine that's digitally able to just do whatever you want.

So is this what Eric was describing a few minutes ago, saying AI will learn your habits, your patterns, it will have things waiting for you. It will know what you're expecting. Is that agentic AI? Yes. So it's a version of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like a good example for people who follow the LATEC news, Salesforce, in the last several months, they launched what they call Agent Force. Agent Force, they basically have created agents that are being deployed through their own organization that allows them to be able to help manage a massive amount of customer service requests that come in. The CEO of Salesforce said here recently in a keynote, I think he said like 80% now of their customer support,

tech support related communications that come in, 80% of them are now being handled by their agent force. So it frees up their humans and to get this, so they've deployed thousands of agents and throughout Salesforce, but they're also hiring thousands of people to increase productivity, increase new product increase, teaching how people how to use these these agents. So it's free them up to be able to shift their their physical employees to do other things to

grow their company and allowing their digital employees, their AI agents to do these other mundane tasks to be able to focus on what's important. So a lot of these companies, I've heard it a lot here, lies companies, they're not afraid of losing jobs, they actually see AI a means of being able to create more jobs, because it's allowing the company to get do these lower hanging fruit tasks, get them out of the way. So the other humans can then do bigger picture items. And then there's once that once the

humans do the bigger picture items, and, you know, cast a vision of something, they tell the AI agent and agents, okay, now go do it. Now we're going to do the next thing. And it's a cycle. So they're, they keep talking here. And the sessions I've heard in the last day and a half is, is, is this connection between human and AI. The humans are going to still be there. They're helping create projects and things for AI to go do, and then they go move on to the next step. Okay. So last year, 2024, I heard a speaker at one of the keynote addresses.

He said, within two years, all successful companies will have two classes of employees, human and non-human. So are we saying here today that the non-human employees will be agentic AI employees that are carrying out assignments? Not only are you carrying out assignments, but thinking it through and knowing what to do.

Well, I was in a session today, Rick, that's one major telecom, uh, announced that they were going to shift most of their call agents over to agent to AI. So if you call up the phone company with a problem or whatever it is with your bill or with anything else, uh, you will probably not be talking to a human in the very near future. And they've already kind of done this online, you know, if you go on a website for a major phone company or anything like that, and you have an issue, there's an online chat that

answers your questions. Well, they're just taking it now into the real world that, well, do we need a call agent? And so it's interesting. And you know what's interesting too about call agents too. And Paul and Eric and I were in that security session and they brought up the topic of call agents and they said, well, if you replace call agents with agentic AI, it will reduce human trafficking. We're all looking at each other. What does human trafficking have to do with call centers and the lady who advises the Department of Justice, okay? said that

many the call agents that you get from spam calls and stuff like that are people that have been trafficked and put into call centers To work the phones and see she said so be be kind to those people they said but here in the very near future the the traffickers will start using agentic AI to replace those human call center agents that we were all three looking at each other I learned something new today I didn't know there are kidnapping people to put them in call centers I didn't know there are kidnapping people to put them in call centers. I didn't know that either. One speaker today said, he said, look, I want to address this topic, this fear that AI is going to destroy a lot of jobs. He said, AI is not going to take away your job,

but your company's competitor that uses AI is going to take away your job. That's true. That's a different perspective. That the companies that know how to use AI are going to outperform the non-AI companies. This is what I want to get across to our audience who are business owners, executives, managers. You're going to have to use AI to stay competitive. And the same way with those who are employees, you're going to have to learn to use AI to stay ahead of the curve. If not, you're going to get run over. You're just going to get washed

out to see this thing is moving fast. And you've got to start taking AI courses and learn how to use AI. I want to go back to this idea of generative AI and agentic AI. To give you an example, pair. generative AI creates it designs. So let's say for generative AI, you you tell generative AI, you want to take a, you know, the greatest vacation you've ever taken, and you give it the, you know, the countries that you want to go to, and it writes a travel plan for you. But agentic AI goes beyond writing a travel plan. It books the airlines, it books the hotels,

it books the reservations for restaurants. That's the difference between the two. One example, Eric and I messed around with this chat GPT, one of their first agents that they actually have sort of rolled out to the public. You have to go to their top tier. It's called operator. And it is so strange. We'll have to talk about maybe paying for the high level thing just so you can test it out, Rick, you get a you

get a web browser, and you type in a request and you give it some parameters just real simple, just like how you would go into chat GPT and write something out. And it is so bizarre to actually watch this thing work and do, you know, we've seen videos of it online, and it'll go through and search different things. And it'll keep working on this as long as it takes. And it'll report back with what it found out. Is this good? Is this right? And then you'll say, no, no, no, go do this thing. And then it'll get back to work. You literally have a worker that can that can do whatever you want.

Yeah, so agentic AI is derived from the word agency, you're creating an agent. And this agent does things for you so that you don't have to do it. Again, go back to planning a trip. It understands what you want to achieve. It's not waiting on you to give it individual instructions. You give it an instruction, I want to take a trip to such and such a place on these dates. It then takes over. It doesn't need any more instructions.

It evaluates the options. It chooses a course of action and it presents you with With the options that you can now confirm and say yes, I like this plan book it do it it's You know, it looks at your calendar it It would be looking at information about you. It would know, but doc, you have a doctor's appointment that week. You can't go to Europe that week.

Or Eric, you promised your children that you're gonna do something, you know, with a school event. You can't take your vacation that week. It's gonna tell you things that you don't you don't remember. Yeah, and that's what's coming to you know, I think you and Paul had mentioned something about earlier about a version of a of agent AI come into the phone. We saw a sample of what

Siri is supposed to do come into the iPhone, it's supposed to, you can say, oh, my mother-in-law's coming in town. Can you tell me when? And it will go through emails, the messages, any communication saying, or your calendar, oh yes, your mother, Mary, is coming in town at such and such time. do you want to plan an Uber

to come pick her up? Or do you want to plan an Uber to go drive and pick her up? Oh yes, you'll have to do that for me. Okay. Also, do you want to make a reservation to go out to dinner? Okay, well, yeah, pizza sounds good. Okay. In know in you know, in this town, there's such pizza Do you want me to book a reservation for you? Yes, open up open table and it will book a reservation That's what has been Demoed of what's to come for us Apple users in the near future But you're also seeing this already take place like through chat GPT operator through I'm drawing a

blanket another one but another one just came out with something recently too. So they're getting there on a desktop or via app but eventually it's gonna be just baked into the OS of the phone that it's just going to do it. Yes. So, Eric, we all all of us I can't be the only person, you know, we're bombarded with with messages, emails, text messages, messaging systems for for employment. I mean, and people, people around us, relatives, family, close family, friends, coworkers, they're sending us messages in multiple formats and multiple, you know, platforms. And, and you have to you have to sort

through this and remember all this, you know, and I'll just create, you know, something, let's say my wife, Susan says to me, Hey, Tuesday, two weeks from now, I need you to leave work a half an hour early because I've got to go to such and such a place. Please promise me you'll remember that. Okay. Well, of course, honey, yeah, I'm gonna do that. I'll leave a half hour early on Tuesday, two weeks from now. And then what happens, you get to Tuesday, and there's some problem that's come up,

all right? Or maybe a visitor has come in that wasn't expected, or there's an urgent meeting. And the next thing you know, you have completely forgotten that you're supposed to leave work Um, you have completely forgotten that you're supposed to leave work half an hour early. What a gent of AI would be telling you is Rick, you have to leave today. You have to leave 30 minutes early. You can't have this meeting at four 30 in the afternoon. Um, those are the little things it would solve for you. You know, you get multiple messages, one topic, one project, and people have sent you text messages, emails, messaging platform messages. And it's all on the same project, but they're different pieces of that project.

And you've got to go back and sort through emails and sort through text messages and look for, oh yeah, they gave me this information, but on a text message, but they also told me a change and that came in an email. A gentivay guy would sort through all that for you and tell you, no, this is what this is what you have to do. This is what they're expecting of you. See, these are kind of tools that I'm like, this is awesome. I, I would use this all the time. Especially with my memory.

And what one point to make here with with agentic AI, there's always a bit of a give and take with this. And I just wanted to mention that what do you have to do to allow AI to get closer to be able to do all these amazing things, right? You're giving AI more access. You're giving it access to your personal information, your personal documents, your passwords, there's a security component. Yes. And I just, there's this feeling that as, as comfortable, more comfortable as we get with AI, just kind of closing in, you'd almost get used to it

being involved in every piece of your day, and we'd become so reliant on AI. It's a bit of a concern, of course. I wanted to mention back when Doc was talking about the call center stuff, just real quickly, they were talking about how the call center scams using these fraudulent chat bots. So you get a call on your phone, they're trying to scam you out of your personal information

or credit card. They're talking about the way to combat that is to use an AI agent that would potentially be monitoring every single one of our phone calls. And then deciding, and then you also are giving AI power. You're giving it power to make decisions for you on your behalf. So you're having AI monitoring AI and then deciding whether or not it is a bad actor and whether or not to end that call. So these

are just the ripple effect. That's the scary stuff. You just reminded me of all the things that I don't want to do. It's so exciting yeah in order to make AI work the most efficient way that you want in a business in a personal use the more information you give it the more refined it becomes and the more aware it becomes of who you are to be able to do and anticipate the things that you want it to do. Yeah. So baby King Kong is cute, but he's going to grow up to be a giant. Okay. That's where we're at right now. It's cute, but it's going to grow up.

One of these days, one of these days, you're not going to have enough bananas to feed it. Yeah. You can't turn it off. You say, okay, I'm done with AI. And AI is saying no. Bananas. Before we wrap it up here, we're past our time here. One, I just want to kind of open up general discussion. One thing that I've noticed here, and I don't like it. A number of speakers in these educational sessions have interjected their left wing politics.

Oh my goodness. I mean, I want to like just talk about your subject. I don't want to hear your political views. And it's very anti-American and very anti-Donald Trump. And it's very anti American and very anti Donald Trump. And it's been very insulting. I've had to sit through some of these sessions where I'm like, you know what, I didn't pay to come here to hear your, your ranting about America and these are Americans. Yes, your left left-wing Americans bad-mouthing America. And I really don't hear the Europeans and the Chinese bad-mouthing Americans.

It's other Americans! Yes, but the Europeans and the Chinese are eating it up. Yes, they are. They are eating it up. They're an eager audience. Yes, they are. So this thought came to me today. I think where the world is going, and we're going to see it possibly this year. I think, I think we're definitely going to see the

end of NATO this year. NATO will come to an end this year. The Europeans are rallying around Ukraine and Zelensky saying, we will defend you. We will fight the Russians. I think Donald Trump is going to pull back and say, go for it, but we're out of NATO because we're not going to be obligated to Article Five to defend you when Russia nukes your cities. All right. So we're out. All right. I think what we're going to see is a new alliance, the United States and Russia as allies, China and the EU as allies. I think the EU is going to line up with China. If you were here, if you were here at Mobile World Congress, that's the conclusion you would come to. That's why that's where I came to that conclusion, walking around here and listening to conversations. I would say, would you say about half of all the exhibits here are Chinese?

Yes. Yes. That's exactly what I'm saying, Doc. This industry is being taken over by the Chinese. So we're going into two holers of the world, a new world order, Russia and the United States, the EU and China. And Paul, I know I don't want to go into the, to the whole interview, we'll save it, but you, you talked to a European official and he and he said to you, I'm not even

sure you Americans are going to be allowed to come to Europe. Yes, he did. So he said, he didn't necessarily put a timeline on it, but he was curious as to. You know, pointing to the end of, of the current administration's term, you know, pointing to the end of the current administration's term. You know, it's perspective on the administration. 2029. Yeah, yeah. When we parted ways, you know, I said, Hey, you know, we ever, you know, talk, talk again soon sometime, maybe see at the next conference and I said, you know if we can still be friends

Because yeah, he said his perspective on on Americans and and all this is that it's just like loose cannon and and apparently this is this is much of the EU's perspective we've heard it the whole conference it's it's It's perplexing that might that might add weight to me saying we may not be back here next year. It's possible we're not even given a visa to come in. May not be welcome. Is that crazy? Anybody else have any loose end thoughts before we wrap this up? Because we've all gone our separate ways

most of the day. And you've all been seeing things that I haven't seen. Anything else that you want to throw in? Want to add? That's what I can think of right now. All right. All right, Doc. Anything on your end? All I'm thinking about is baby King Kong and bananas now. All i'm thinking about is baby king kong and bananas now Because that's what we have on our hands now we really know i've got a great analogy Now i've got that image in my mind. All right No more bananas and he's angry He's angry. He wants bananas uh, hey, I want to say thank you to viewers and listeners for

Allowing us the opportunity to represent the kingdom of God here at mobile world congress We're a rare commodity here and we thank you very much to allow us the opportunity to be a light in darkness And uh you this is your ministry you you sent us here And we thank you very very much for that and we appreciate Not only your support for this project, but for continued support as well. God bless you. We we love you very very much Thank you for investing in this ministry. That's right in our badges say faith and values and so people look at our badges and They're not seeing that anywhere else.

They're not seeing anybody else in any way indicating religious faith. So I think we're the only people here representing the kingdom of God. And I concur with Doc. We're very, very grateful. Thank you so much for sending us, for praying for us. We're here for you. We're here scouting out the land. All right. Learning what the what the devil has planned for the for mankind, because that's really what it is. And there's giants in the land, but we can take them.

That's right. Amen. Hey, God will have, God will have a faithful remnant all the way to the end. I'm not gonna be afraid of this technology, not gonna be worried about it. I'm gonna be aware of it, but I'm not gonna fear. God will have a faithful remnant on this earth at all times. I see Doc, you're being told it's time to close. All right, that's it for today. I've just got my signal also it's time to go home. Thank you everybody.

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