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All this week, we've been presenting a special classic True News investigative series on the life and times of
Barry Sertoro, also known as Barack Hussein Obama.
Now, Rick was prompted to present these special episodes of interviews
that he has done over the years with the Obamas back in the
headlines now, and with possible prospects of Michelle Obama
jumping in on election 2024.
Now, Rick Wiles did dozens of interviews on the topic of Barris O'Toole, so it was difficult to
pick the very best ones. Today and tomorrow, we will follow the investigative trail into the
former president with True News guest Jack Cashel. Now, an independent writer and producer, Jack
Cashel has written a dozen books
under his own name and collaborated on a dozen more. He has a PhD from Purdue University in
American Studies. And Cashel, in his book, Deconstructing Obama, proposes that Bill Ayers,
co-founder of the militant radical left-wing organization, The Weather Underground,
had authored President Barack Obama's autobiography, Dreams from My Father.
In this interview from June 14, 2011, True News hosts Rick Wiles and Jack Cashel seek to unravel the Obama mystery.
Well, welcome back to True News. I'm Rick Wiles.
I'm continuing our journalistic investigation into the vast cover-up
of Barack Hussein Obama's true identity. Today, we will focus on his book, Dreams From My Father.
Now, for the record, most people misquote the title. They say, dreams of my father. No,
that's not what Barack Obama said. He said he has dreams from his father.
So you need to know something about his father and what his father's dreams were.
He's referring to his father, if it's his legitimate father, nobody really knows,
Barack Hussein Obama Sr., a Marxist economist from Kenya who despised Great Britain and America.
He despised Western culture and the free enterprise system.
And Obama's father's dream was to see the collapse of the Western free enterprise system.
Now, investigative journalist Jack Cashel has devoted considerable time analyzing Obama's
book, and he's convinced that Barack Obama did not write the book. He recently published a
book entitled Deconstructing Obama. It's been a long, long time since Jack has been on True News,
so I'm eager to hear the latest things he has uncovered. Jack, welcome back to True News.
Hey, Rick. It's thanks for having me. And it's an appropriate time to raise the questions you're raising because uh sunday is father's day that's right and uh this week uh people magazine has a five-page special and it
starts off with it's titled president barack obama penn's essay on being the father i never had so he
he writes the essay himself and the first paragraph i mean he doesn't go two sentences before he shares a very profound falsehood with his audience.
Let me read this first paragraph for you.
Okay.
He goes, I grew up without a father around, which is not necessarily true either.
He goes, I have certain memories of him taking me to my first jazz concert and giving me my first basketball as a Christmas present.
But he left when I was two years old. That's the story
he's been telling since he started running for office. He left when I was two years old.
Does he remember his father at age two giving him a basketball?
No. What happened is Barack Obama Sr. came back to Hawaii for a couple weeks when Obama was 10. And that's where the jazz concert and the basketball are referred to.
Now, why?
I mean, this wouldn't seem like a big fabrication except for this, is that he based the book
Dreams of My Father around this notion that he spent the first two years of his life with
his father and that he it was so important to the story that he read with both of his convention
speeches with that notion.
Let me just capsulize that story as he told it at both convention speeches.
And you've heard it a thousand times, Rick.
He goes, you know, my mother was a schoolgirl from Kansas, and my father was a goat herder
from Kenya. And they came to Hawaii, and they had this improbable Kansas, and my father was a goat herder from Kenya.
And they came to Hawaii, and they had this improbable romance, and they fell in love, and they married, and they had a vision for America.
And they had hopes for me and for my education.
But then when I was two years old, Harvard called, and my mother said to my father, you know, for Kenya's sake, you have to take this, right?
Well, here's what we know.
Here is what is an arguably true and what Obama knows by now.
He may not have known this, you know, when he wrote Dreams, but he certainly has known it since.
And here he is repeating this lie again.
I can't believe he's doing this, is that his mother and father never lived together.
There was no Obama family.
There was no improbable romance. There was no
hope for the future. There was no vision, you know, down the road or, you know, seeing his
potential. He never met his father until he was 10 years old, the man who presumed to be his father.
There wasn't. The whole thing's an illusion.
Jack, is there any evidence that Ann Dunham and Barack Obama Sr. ever lived together as husband and wife?
No, there's negative evidence.
And it just showed up, for instance, a month ago when these INS documents surfaced about Barack Obama Sr.
And this is referring to the fact that Harvard asked immigration, the U.S. Immigration Department, to kick him out of the country, they said, this guy's got multiple wives.
We don't even know who this guy is.
Right.
And not only that, but while he was at Harvard, he impregnated a high school student who was there on an exchange program from Kenya and then sent her to London for an abortion.
They wouldn't let her back in the country.
It ruined her life. But in Hawaii, the document surfaces where this is at the end of August 1961.
Obama was born presumably on August 4th, 1961.
And the document says at the time that the mother is living with the baby with her parents
and that Barack Obama Sr. has a separate address.
Now, even if they never live together, we know that by the end of August,
Ann Dunham, the mother, is in Seattle with the baby. And Barack Obama Sr. is back in Hawaii.
She doesn't come back to Hawaii until after Barack Obama Sr., has left for Harvard. And he left for Harvard before Obama was one years old, not when he was two.
So it shouldn't matter that he gets this wrong, except that now here he's writing a Father's Day essay to America's children.
And he's lying about it. story was so important to the narrative because the whole multicultural ideal was based on the fact that these
two different people could come together and
fall in love and create this wonderful
offspring. Is it possible
possible, Jack, is
it possible that Obama himself
doesn't know who he is?
Yes, that's very possible. It's very possible
that he does not know who his father is.
I mean, not just his father. He
doesn't know who he is.
Has his entire life been manufactured by others?
Yeah, that's a good way to put it.
In fact, that's what I call the book that I have out now called Deconstructing Obama because he – actually, just to jump ahead, Bill Ayers is the primary author of the book. It's the acclaimed 1995 memoir that Time magazine called the best written memoir ever produced by an American politician.
He couldn't write it himself.
Ayers is the guy who put it together for him.
You believe that Marxist revolutionary Bill Ayers wrote the book?
No, I don't believe it.
I know it. I know it.
You know it.
I'm 100% confident.
Why are you 100% confident that Ayers wrote Obama's autobiography?
Well, it started with, you know, I stumbled onto the story by accident in the summer of
2008 when I first picked up Dreams from My Father.
And I hadn't paid that much attention to the election until
that point. And I did it just because someone said, hey, is this book as radical as it sounds?
And she sent me some excerpts. I was stuck in an airport, read the book, underlined the excerpts,
and said, no, the excerpts are taken out of context. The book isn't that radical. I said,
but, you know, in my careers in advertising and publishing, I've looked at a thousand portfolios, at least, of professional writers, you know,
trying to hire people, evaluate them. I said, there weren't a half dozen who wrote this well.
I was suspicious from the first page on. The book's too well written, because then I went
back and saw, is Obama a writer? And then, you know, there's earlier samples of his writing in
print, not much, a couple essays, and they're bad.
I mean, there are C-minus papers in freshman comp class.
And then it dawned on me that there's no way he could have written it.
It's like, imagine that your neighbor is a double bogey golfer, and you see him walking around your neighborhood in a green jacket, and he tells you he won at the Masters.
You'd say, no, that didn't happen.
Double bogey golfers just don't go out and win the Masters. You'd say, no, that didn't happen. Double bogey golfers just don't go out and win the Masters. Well, that's the equivalent of what Obama was passing off in the world.
And so I couldn't believe that as late as July of 2008, this wasn't well known. So I just Googled,
you know, Obama ghostwriter, see what I got. I figured that someone else was writing about this
because it was so obvious to me.
And all I got, Rick, was unlike John McCain, Barack Obama does not need a ghostwriter.
You know, they had already proclaimed his genius based on this book.
That's why he was the smartest man ever to occupy the White House, according to historian Michael Beschloss.
So the news media, which is part of this vast
criminal cover-up,
and I believe a lot of the reporters are
criminally complicit.
They know what they're doing.
So they were
immediately putting out stories
in 2008
extolling the great writing
abilities of Barack Obama.
Right, the greatest ever.
The greatest ever.
And then it wasn't until September.
Greater than Theodore Roosevelt?
Yeah.
I mean, actually, Jonathan Rabin, the British literary heavyweight,
described Obama, and this is the consensus opinion,
as the best writer to occupy the White House.
There's a quote.
The best writer to occupy the White House is Abraham Lincoln.
And that's why I said, not Theodore Roosevelt.
I have all of Roosevelt's books.
Roosevelt was a prolific writer.
Oh, he was incredible.
You know, Woodrow Wilson was no slouch either.
So neither was Ronald Reagan, for that matter.
But no, that's how they anointed him. And his genius mythology centered around this one 1995 memoir written when he was 33 years old.
In September of 2008, I was following another thread altogether because I had no idea who was –
I figured he had some left-wing poet or something helping him, you know,
because it was a very poetic thread into dreams from my father.
And then I just – I was following another track altogether,
and I picked up a copy of Bill Ayers' book, Fugitive Days.
And I started reading it, and then, you know, the light bulb went off.
And it was a stupid light bulb, because it said to me,
gosh, they're both in Chicago, they're both kind of radical.
I bet they have the same ghostwriter.
I didn't realize at the time that Ayers was a very gifted writer and editor himself.
And he served this role in Hyde Park because, for instance, Rashid Khalidi, another Hyde Park radical and friend of both of theirs.
And the first sentence of his book, Resurrecting Empire, gives credit to Bill Ayers.
He says, first and foremost, here comes Bill Ayers.
I couldn't have written a book without him.
That's the role he played. He's a very skilled writer. And then when I got into the textual analysis of the books, and I had written an earlier book on literary fraud,
so I'm some sort of a literary sleuth detective. The evidence was overwhelming. The parallels were
overwhelming. And parallels were overwhelming.
And then we did some scientific forensic testing.
That passed the test.
Every test.
And then a year later, I tried to get the story out before the election.
No one wanted to hear it, of course.
A year later, Christopher Anderson, who's a celebrity biographer, his books are skew
female and left.
He's a New York Times number one
bestseller, Vanity Fair, Time Magazine. That's his world. He stumbled on this in doing research
on his book, Barack and Michelle. He spent six pages confirming my thesis from on the ground
evidence. And Rick, you want to know how corrupt the media are, you have to see how they reacted
to Barack and Michelle Anderson's book. Comes out in September of 2009. It's reviewed by every major publication.
I saw, I read 80 reviews, roughly. Of those 80 reviews, you know how many of them mention
the most newsworthy item in the book? Namely, that Bill Ayers had largely written, dreamed
from my father?
How many? Zero, not a one.
And 80 independent reviewers skipped over six pages of the only and most seriously,
most newsworthy item in the book, namely that Bill Ayers was responsible for a dream from
my father.
Okay.
And greatest literary fraud in political history.
And they chose to ignore it collectively.
Okay.
Tell us again.
What was the name of the book?
The book in question was called Barack and Michelle, Portrait of an American Marriage.
And it's a very, you know, USA Today described it as a glowing portrait of an American marriage.
Okay.
And who was the author?
Christopher Anderson.
His current book is called William and Kate.
That's the kind of book he writes.
Okay, and where did he get his information that Obama did not write the book?
I talked to him on the air one night.
We were both on the same radio show.
And he told me he had two sources in Hyde Park, and they gave him all the information.
And the information rang so true.
It's just as I imagined it.
He wouldn't tell me who.
Personally, I think the sources were Bill Ayers and his wife, Bernadine Doran.
Ayers on at least three occasions as unprompted, taking credit for the book, usually with a
wink, a little jokey way.
Yeah.
So that the media can breathe a sigh of relief and say, oh, he's teasing the right.
He's not teasing me because he knows I know.
Yes, I saw a YouTube video of Bill Ayers jokingly saying, I wrote the book.
Right.
Like you said, he does it with the wink so he can always go back and say it was a joke.
Truthfully, he's admitting, he's telling people he wrote the book.
Of course he is.
Because, you know, here's the thing is that he knows that I know.
I mean, it's like we're in the same wavelength, I believe.
I'm his greatest defender in some ways because I say this guy can write.
I mean, he's a very good writer.
And so he's got some ego issues here.
He knows he wrote a
really good book. He's reading the reviews
that others have written about
Obama's book, and he wants
really bad to tell the world
that idiot didn't
write it. I did. I'm the writer.
Rick, that is exactly
the perfect analysis of his
motivation.
Also, there's the $9 million in royalties that the dreams from my father earned Obama.
I bet he didn't get any. And that is that when Obama's, when Bill Ayers' book came out,
A Fugitive Day, he wrote his own memoir six years later.
And it came out, it was reviewed, a glowing review, on the worst possible day
for a terrorist to get a review in the New York Times. September 11, 2001. The book died a cruel
and unpleasant death on the day it was released, essentially.
Wow. So we have two Marxist communists, Barack Obama and Bill Ayers, privately fighting over who gets how much of the commissions.
Well, and it has to be very private because, you know, if he goes public, I mean, if he stages a press conference and says, you know, I wrote this book, I demand half the royalties.
He loses all of his leverage half the royalties, he
loses all of his leverage with the White House and he loses all of his friends.
So he's got to play games with this.
But those of us who follow this closely know the kind of games he's playing.
Well, I have a feeling Obama's CPA, Harvey Wein, who is also has a long history of association with communist organizations in Chicago.
And he's the guy who is paying the taxes on Obama's house that Obama doesn't own because it's owned by a trust.
Yeah. Maybe Harvey has figured out a way as a, you know, as a C.P.A. that he can funnel some of that some of those royalty checks over to their buddy Bill Ayers
and keep it all hush-hush.
I would not be surprised if they've worked out some kind of deal.
And now, speaking of hush-hush, now it's kind of hush money
because Ayers could undo the Obama presidency by coming forward.
And he's the only one who can because the media refused to hear
the story I've been telling. And anyone who reads my book, Deconstructing Obama, or
if you go to my website, cashflow.com, you can see the book TV presentation I did.
There's no one who sees it or reads the book says there is no there's no more any doubt in their
mind that I'm correct in my thesis. It takes a lot of words to make a case because i have to show the parallels you know but for
instance they they both use 55 identical uh nautical metaphors you know and airs was a
merchant seaman and his nautical metaphors are everywhere obama's only show up and dream from my father. And then, you
know, here's the timeline for this is almost comical. Obama surfaces in 1995 with the best
written memoir ever by an American politician. And then for the next 10 years, doesn't write
anything but junky little columns in his neighborhood magazine, you know. And then in 2006, after
he's famous, he gets a huge advance to write a second book in a totally different style and voice, you know, and it's clearly inferior.
Ayers calls it a political hack book.
That's Audacity of Hope, you know.
And we're supposed to believe that these are both written by the same person.
In fact, Obama reckoned July of 2008, he's speaking to a convention of schoolteachers.
And he's lying
there like he lies in his Father's Day essay. He says, he tells them, and this is on YouTube,
anyone wants to see it, they can see it. I've written two books. And then they applaud,
the teachers applaud. Then he says, I actually wrote them myself. And now they laugh and applaud,
you see, because Republicans are too stupid to write their own books.
Obama is a genius. He writes his own books.
In fact, anyone who wants to see a quick seven-minute summary of this whole story can just go to YouTube and type in Jack Cashel deconstructing Obama, and you'll see how this has played out in the media. Jack, what are the literary differences between Dreams from My Father and his other book, The Audacity of Hope?
Well, Dreams from My Father is very poetic, for one thing.
And it's written in what I would call a postmodern style.
And Ayers is a postmodernist.
And that is that there's no such thing as truth in their world.
They reject the whole Judeo-Christian tradition.
And what they do is they construct, that's the word they both use, a reality. And this reality is filled with fictions and narratives and poses and grooves. And it's
about each individual creating his own narrative, is the word they use over and over again,
telling about his own journey. The truth is the best corrective. There must be 20 parallel postmodern phrases
between dreams from my father and fugitive days. That's, and it's very poetic. And it's written,
and what Arias did is he imposed the structure of Homer's The Odyssey on Obama's book. And what
he did is he gave him the father figure to search for. That's when they
really introduced the father into the narrative. He's searching for this father. Well, in fact,
the father's, if it even is his father, is just this crackpot, you know, socialist from Kenya,
who he's never met, you know, he's never as a child, as he met him as a 10 year old, but not
as a baby. Now, the second book, Audacity of Hope, written in 2006, 11 years
later, is just like a wonky kind of political book about, you know, what Obama wants to do for
America. It's written by committee, probably largely by his speechwriter, John Favreau,
a 23-year-old video game whiz. And it's, you know, it's about, you know, his policy plans for the future.
It's written in first person, but it's – Ayer is on that same videotape you saw, and this didn't get as much comment as it should have.
Ayer dismissed it as a political hack book, and he wasn't kidding there at all.
Jack, over the 12 years I've been doing this radio program, I've come to realize that some of the best sources I can find for what's going on in America, those sources are media outlets in Great Britain, Europe, and other parts of the world.
It's not the United States of America.
The flow of news in America is tightly controlled. You know, for example,
when the Clintons were terrorizing the nation in the White House, and we had the mysterious
death of Vince Foster, it was London reporter Ambrose Evans Prashard who stayed on the story
and uncovered some of the really shocking details of the murder of Vince Foster.
Likewise, you came very close recently to getting a major London paper to cover the
story about Obama's book.
I'm talking about the Daily Mail.
Yeah, and it was not unraveling.
It was interesting.
They contacted me about a month or so ago.
And they were, you know, I talked to them.
They were very obliging.
I talked to them a half dozen times on the phone.
They were calling me every other day.
They commissioned me to write a 2,500-word piece, and they were paying very well.
Not only that, but they were going to write some supportive articles around it.
And then, because their editors had all read it,
and they were totally convinced by my book.
Anyone who reads it is convinced,
unless you're just totally in the tank for Obama.
And if they had followed through, then Drudge could have picked this up,
and then it would have changed a lot of stuff.
What happened, though, was this,
is that on the Wednesday before the Sunday
when this was set to run, and like I said, I'd already written the article. They had already
had it and approved it. Everything was ready to go. That is the day on April 27th, Barack Obama
came forth with his presumed birth certificate. And then they got cold feet. They all got cold
feet. Then that Saturday or Sunday, they announced that Osama bin Laden was captured. And then they got cold feet. They all got cold feet. Then that Saturday or Sunday, they announced that Osama bin Laden was captured.
And then for about a week, Obama's star was back in the firmament.
And they dropped it.
Now, they paid me.
I mean, so I'm hoping that they'll, you know, pick it up and run with it again.
But that was a lost opportunity there because, by the way, the Wall Street Journal was about ready to come out and support my thesis.
And that same Sunday, and they got called for the same reason.
But why aren't these major news outlets analyzing the digital image of the birth certificate?
I mean, dear Lord, I mean, we've got 20-something-year-olds who are within hours after the White House put the birth certificate out there.
They picked it apart and showed this thing was made with multiple layers of digital images.
Well, you know, it's interesting, too, because I never wrote about the birth certificate.
I mean, it really didn't have much to do with me, except that in the second half of my book, in the first half, I asked the question, did Obama write the books attributed to him?
In the second half of the book, I asked the question, is this story they tell true? And I basically deconstructed the narrative of his life, and I showed where he was lying,
which was as often as he was not lying.
But you're right.
When the birth certificate comes out, they immediately accepted his gospel.
And the day the birth certificate was released, though, Rick, was the day I became truly suspicious.
Because you go three years, you're hiding this thing in a very unprecedented way.
You put the state of Hawaii through all kinds of hassle, you know, having to answer questions.
It's gone to federal court at least a half a dozen different times, you know, using up great amounts of resources, you know, money and energy,
and then you present a birth certificate that's uncontroversial?
See, I thought that there'd be something wrong with it.
Like maybe he wasn't born on August 4th.
Maybe his father wasn't Barack Obama.
Maybe he was born in Seattle where he was first seen as a baby and not in Hawaii.
That's what I thought would be some little detail that would un-spin the narrative.
But instead, he presents it perfectly harmonious with the stories he's been telling.
That's because it's a perfectly made forgery.
Except it's an imperfectly made forger. Yes, except, yeah, the young forger who is very, very skilled at using Adobe software and being able to manipulate digital images,
the young forger didn't know that in 1961 people used manual typewriters.
Yeah, and there's at least four levels of, it appears to be a composite.
There are, that birth certificate.
They knew the media wouldn't come answer them.
That birth certificate was typed on multiple typewriters.
I mean, the person who typed it had to type one or two letters, pull it out, put it in another typewriter, type a couple more letters. Listen, anybody, if this guy's name wasn't Barack Obama, any federal prosecutor could get
a conviction in a court with a jury in five minutes on this guy.
And that may still happen. You know, in my own conversations with Jerry Corsi,
it's not going to happen because the people who are covering up go.
This goes to the highest levels of our nation, including the FBI, the Secret Service, the intelligence agencies.
This is a massive cover up.
They all know he's a fraud.
They know it.
Shame on it.
Shame on them.
They're not there.
You're no longer patriots.
You don't even work for the American people. You work for a regime. Well, here's what
could happen, and this is,
and it would not shock me if it did.
For a long time now, I've
thought that the Democratic candidate
in 2012 will be Hillary
Clinton. We all did.
Oh, you're talking about from 2012?
Yeah. Yeah, okay.
And if that, if my scenario is right, I think that there are powerful forces in the Democratic world that are more powerful than Barack Obama.
If they see him as a total liability, coming into—and I watched a Republican debate last night.
I'm going to tell you, all seven of those people could have whipped Obama in a one-on-one.
My dog Gator could whip him.
You're right about your dog.
In fact, I bet on your dog any day.
But I think that at some point
before 2012,
they'll pull the plug on him.
Hey, he was here in Miami
for a fundraiser
and half of the seats were empty
and it was only, what, $40 a seat?
Right. And when I was watching the debate last night i'm saying
he can't debate these people they'll claim him that's right and uh i think they're going to pull
the plug on him and i think when that happens uh the smoking gun will be the forge purchase
did you notice that he made a comment yesterday about his family would be okay if he was a one-termer?
That's right.
Boy, I think that I'm beginning to become more confident in my thesis, and I've had this for a while.
I felt this way for some time.
Well, Jack, he made this comment the day after the Bilderberg Group convened or ended their secret meeting in Switzerland.
So maybe the word was sent to him, your time is up, we're moving on.
Yeah, I think that may not be a coincidence at all.
And there's Hillary, of course, talking to him, and she's angling to get out of this
administration right now.
Well, if you go back four years, when Hillary and Obama were neck and neck in the primaries, both of them were summons to
Northern Virginia for a meeting. It was supposed to be a meeting with, I think, was a Barbara Boxer
or someone, one of the Democratic senators, supposed to be at her home in Northern Virginia.
But Bilderberg was meeting in Chantilly, Virginia on the same day. And then, you know, Obama and Hillary stopped campaigning.
They both fly to northern Virginia into Dulles Airport.
They have this private meeting with somebody.
And a day or two later, Hillary announces she's dropping out of the race.
How about that?
Yeah, so I think if, you know, I won't go to bank on this one, but your audience, if they may have heard it here first, I think she's going to be a nominee.
Now, here's one other thing that happened, Rick, immediately after the birth certificate was announced.
By the way, the day before the birth certificate announced was the day that they had posted his IAS documents online.
A week later, and the Obama camp had to know what was in the book,
Janie Scott releases her book called The Signora Woman.
It's a biography of Barack Obama's mother, Ann Dunham.
Now, I knew this book was in the works.
She'd been working on it for three years.
So when I'm writing my book, Deconstructing Obama,
which came out about two months before Scott's book,
I'm hedging my bets because I'm thinking, okay,
this woman's talked to a couple hundred Obama friends and relatives.
She must know the birth story.
So I don't want to get too firm in my opinions if she knows and if she can make a very strong case for what happened.
And this is where the amazing thing sets in.
Jack, do you know Attorney Steven Pigeon in the state of Washington?
I know what he's doing, and I've heard his name.
Okay.
He was on the program a week or so ago.
I have some reservations there.
I don't want to get into that on the air, but I'll talk to you off the air.
All right.
He claims he has a copy of a document from British Columbia, a name change,
from Barack Abayad to Barack Hussein Obama.
Right, because it's altogether possible, I think,
that Barack Obama was born in British Columbia.
But that is, we do not know from Jenny Scott,
because in her biography, for instance,
she spends 30 pages detailing exquisitely the high school career
of Ann Dunham. Then, from the time she meets Barack Obama Sr. to the time Barack Obama Sr.
leaves for Harvard, she spends a total of two pages. The singular event in this life that makes
her worthy of a biography by a New York Times reporter gets two total pages. On the wedding,
a half a sentence. Reportedly, they got married in Maui. That's it. On the next six months between
the wedding, it's in February, and the birth in August, that's seven months. No, six months.
Not a single word. We have no idea of her whereabouts for the next six months. She cites not a single
person who saw Barack Obama and Ann Dunham together. As to the birth itself, not a word
that could not be found on the birth certificate, just the where and the day and the when, but not
a single word about rushing to the hospital, anxious grandparents, none
of that.
Yeah.
And Kapalani Hospital has yet to confirm that he was born there.
Right.
There's no comment.
For a while, they were claiming it was the other hospital.
Yeah, they were saying the other hospital, but there's no comment.
There's no denial or confirmation.
No baby pictures, no pregnant pictures.
And then what she does, Danny Scott does in her biography of Ann
Dunham, is to lie about the next six months of Ann Dunham's life. She plants the impression in
the reader's mind that she spent it in Hawaii with Barack Obama Sr. When we have all the school
records and everything else now proving that she was in Seattle within weeks of the baby's alleged birth date in August of 1961.
Jack, I have been saying for months, what we have to demand at this point is the appointment
of an independent federal prosecutor.
Yeah.
And I'm very serious about it. Let's get this out of the realm of radio talk show hosts and authors and, you know, citizen journalists.
We're all doing the work.
But it's time that this is put into the hands of an independent federal prosecutor who has the power to subpoena witnesses,
who would subpoena Barack Obama himself and documents from the state of not not digital images, hard copies.
Let's say that's right. And if you see what would happen to the Hawaii Department of Health if they receive a subpoena from a independent prosecutor saying produce the hard copy. If they submit a document that they know was forged in recent months,
then they are facing prison time.
And this thing could fall apart really, really fast.
Independent prosecutor could, you know, start calling people in.
I mean, we've had multiple private investigators on this program, you know, who are making very serious allegations about fake Social Security numbers and fake ID.
And we've had people talking about very mysterious circumstances involving the home, South Greenwood Avenue in Chicago. There is widespread criminal activity surrounding Obama,
and this is a criminal syndicate.
And we've got federal officials who know about it.
They're covering it up.
Perhaps they are in on the entire crime.
Perhaps they've made a decision that the republic would be ripped apart if if the president was exposed as a common criminal.
I don't know why people in Washington are covering it up, but I'm fed up with Washington officials acting like we're conspiracy theorists and we're wearing tinfoil hats and watching UFOs land.
No, we're dead serious about what's going on here.
There is a criminal operation underway,
and it has the involvement of multiple people and agencies and organizations
to cover up the true identity of this man who's in the White House,
who is bombing other nations and sending our sons into war.
And we need to find out who he is, who put him there, who covered this up.
And an independent federal prosecutor would be the next logical step.
And I think what we ought to be saying is, listen, the campaign is ready to start.
It's actually underway.
Let's get this resolved before we get into the 2012 presidential campaign, hot and
heavy.
Let's just get it resolved now.
Get a federal prosecutor appointed, and let's get this resolved by December.
I think it might happen, but it has to come from the other side.
And in other words, our people are sufficiently cowed.
You know, they're afraid of being called a racist or a conspiracy theorist.
Oh, they just got to get over that.
I mean, get some backbone.
You know, let's get some backbone.
I can tell you about this right up front because I have not had,
despite the fact that I have my publisher assignment issues,
there's my eighth book, I have a PhD,
I have not gotten a single review from the conservative media
in any print publication. Oh, listen, I've had so-called conservative
leaders who have refused to come on this program. Listen, they're either in on it
or they're cowards. I don't know. I can't say for sure, but I don't have any confidence in the conservatives in Washington.
In fact, the more whenever I talk to people in Washington about these issues, they always get very nervous.
Of course they do. And in my case, it's preposterous because all I'm talking about is the literary analysis.
You know, I'm not talking about ending the constitutional crisis.
I'm just talking about exposing the guys of literary fraud.
Yeah, you focused in on a book, you know, a couple of books. I don't have to go.
No ballistics test or anything.
You focused in on just one thing, the book that Obama claims he wrote.
And you're showing that it's a it's another big lie.
The reason is a big lie is that the whole man's life is a lie.
Right, and he's still lying to the People magazine about his childhood.
I mean, it amazed me to see that because there's been so much attention on our side of the aisle,
I should say, not only on our side of the aisle, on our portion of our side of the aisle, the blogosphere and talk radio,
about the fact that it falsified the first couple years of his life.
We know more about George Washington's first two years than we know about Barack Obama's.
Thank you very much.
That's a very good point.
That's a very good point.
We know more about George Washington's early years than we know about Barack Obama.
It doesn't exist.
There is no past.
He's a man without a past.
Do you ever feel like you're watching a movie?
Yes.
And the movie's going to end, and it's going to say,
boy, that was a real thriller, wasn't it?
Yes.
I had it nowhere.
I'm putting him in the presidency of the United States.
Manchurian Candidate?
That comes to mind.
Or how about The Matrix?
Yeah, that too.
Jack Cascio, my guest.
The book, Deconstructing Obama.
And Jack, he's a prolific writer, and he writes his own material.
How about that?
And he's been writing books for a long, long time.
Jack goes back to the early years of this radio program.
I think he first was on our program in 1999.
He had a book, Ron Brown's Body.
Yeah.
Another book, Megafix, Popes and Bankers.
Right.
First Strike, Flight 800, and The Attack on America,
and many, many other books.
Anyone who wants to know more, just go to my website,
cashhill.com, C-A-S-H-I-L-L.com.
Deconstructing Obama is available wherever you buy books,
at your bookstore or Kindle or Amazon, wherever.
And you wrote it.
Yeah, I did.
Bill Ayers helped me, of course.
Don't tell anyone about that.
All right.
All right.
Cashhill.com is the website.
Thank you, Jack.
Good talking to you.
Thanks.
Anytime, sir. Well, thank you. Thanks. Anytime, sir.
Well, thank you for joining us for today's presentation of this classic edition of True News from June 14th, 2011, with Jack Cashill seeking to unravel the Obama mystery.
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