TRUNEWS with Rick Wiles - Jeff Fenholt: The Weaponization of the IRS

Episode Date: August 30, 2023

In today's episode of TruNews, your host Rick Wiles is accompanied by a special guest, Jeff Fenholt. Jeff Fenholt took on the iconic lead role in the original Broadway rendition and subsequent tour of... the Andrew Lloyd Webber-Tim Rice musical, "Jesus Christ Superstar." Later in his life, Fenholt experienced a transformative journey where he embraced Christ as his Savior, channeling his passion into becoming a vocal and impactful evangelist through both music and spoken word. Although Fenholt wasn't the initial lead in "Jesus Christ Superstar," he had the honor of originating the role on Broadway when the groundbreaking rock opera premiered at the Mark Hellinger Theatre in October 1971. This pivotal production propelled Fenholt into instant fame, even gracing the cover of Time magazine. Reflecting on his path, Fenholt candidly shared his struggles with substance abuse and addiction before finding his spiritual calling as a devoted follower of Christ. In the 1980s and 1990s, he was a frequent presence on the Christian television network TBN. Jeff opens up about various facets of his life journey, offering glimpses into his personal testimony. Joined by Rick, he delves into true anecdotes involving his encounters with the Internal Revenue Service and an unexpected visit from the Secret Service at his residence. Rick Wiles, Doc Burkhart. Airdate 8/30/23You can partner with us by visiting TruNews.com/donate, calling 1-800-576-2116, or by mail at PO Box 690069 Vero Beach, FL 32969.It’s the Final Day! The day Jesus Christ bursts into our dimension of time, space, and matter. Now available in eBook and audio formats! Order Final Day from Amazon today! https://www.amazon.com/Final-Day-Characteristics-Second-Coming/dp/0578260816/Apple users, you can download the audio version on Apple Books!https://books.apple.com/us/audiobook/final-day-10-characteristics-of-the-second-coming/id1687129858Purchase the 4-part DVD set or start streaming Sacrificing Liberty today. https://www.sacrificingliberty.com/watchThe Fauci Elf is a hilarious gift guaranteed to make your friends laugh! Order yours today! https://tru.news/faucielf

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Starting point is 00:00:36 Well, this is True News. The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help us God. I'm Doc Burkhart, sitting in for your host, Rick Wiles. In today's episode of True News, your host, Rick Wiles, is accompanied by a special guest, Jeff Finholt. Jeff Finholt took on the iconic lead role in the original Broadway rendition and subsequent tour of the Andrew Lloyd Webber and Tim Rice musical, Jesus Christ Superstar. Later in his life, Finholt experienced a transformative journey where he embraced Christ as his Savior, channeling his passion into becoming a vocal and impactful evangelist through both music and spoken word. Now, although Finholt wasn't the initial lead in Jesus Christ Superstar,
Starting point is 00:01:16 he had the honor of originating the role on Broadway when the groundbreaking rock opera premiered at the Mark Hellinger Theater in October of 71. That pivotal production propelled Fennholt into instant fame, even gracing the cover of Time magazine. Reflecting on his path, Fennholt candidly shared his struggles with substance abuse and addiction before finding his spiritual calling as a devoted follower of Christ. In the 80s and 90s, he was a frequent presence on the Christian television network, TBN. And in this episode of True News, Jeff opens up about various facets of his life journey, offering glimpses into his personal testimony. Joined by Rick, he delves into true anecdotes involving his encounters, more recently at that time, with the Internal
Starting point is 00:02:02 Revenue Service and an unexpected visit from the Secret Service at his residence. So tune in as Rick engages in a heartfelt conversation with Jeff Finholt, a dialogue that took place November 20, 2014. I'm Rick Wiles. Today is Thursday, November 20, 2014. Tonight marks the demise of the United States of America as a constitutional republic. A psychotic, narcissistic, serial liar in the White House will officially become America's first dictator this evening. In 2008, I said Mr. Obama's mission will be to start a civil war. Longtime conservative leader Phyllis Schaefeli said today that Mr. Obama's executive order granting amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants will represent a Fort Sumter-type moment in American history.
Starting point is 00:03:02 Mrs. Schaefeli said, quote, with Pearl Harbor, the American people knew what was happening. Fort Sumter is where the first shots were fired in the Civil War. She said Fort Sumter represents the beginning of a ruinous conflict. Richard Vigery, another longtime conservative leader, also said he fears a second civil war may erupt after tonight's speech by Mr. Obama. Ohio Pastor T.D. Hale's prophetic dreams are now in real time. This is it. If you don't know about the dreams that he received in 2011 and 2012, I recommend you go to our website, truenews.com. Click on radio. Listen now. Scroll down to October 22nd and 23rd, where you can listen to a recent rebroadcast of my interviews with him that were originally recorded in early 2012 and early 2013.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Also listen to the interview, or I should say the recording, of Reverend George Penicoff that I broadcast in October. In two back-to-back dreams on December 28 and 29, 2011, the Lord gave Pastor Hale a series of things that would happen in America under Barack Obama. It's been my belief that the correct interpretation of the dreams requires you to reverse the order of the scenes in the two dreams. They were given to Pastor Hale like an image in a mirror. You have to reverse the order. So here's the sequence of events. Number one, the 2012 election ballot with the names Obama and Romney. The checkmark was beside Obama as the winner. Number two, Barack Obama
Starting point is 00:05:00 stands on the Truman balcony, shoots and kills the American eagle flying above the White House. Number three, rioting and looting erupt everywhere. Number four, total destruction. The country scorched by fires. the mountains, sought and arrested by federal agents, transported by railway cars to renovated military bases, now turned into concentration camps, parents separated from their children, imprisoned in re-education camps to accept the new world order. Perhaps it was by coincidence today that the website of the ultra-leftist Esquire magazine mocked the Republicans' inability to stop Mr. Obama.
Starting point is 00:05:53 In answering the question, what will it take for the Republicans to stop him, the Esquire writer said, quote, only if he did it on TV from the Truman balcony, end of quote. Where are we in the sequence of events shown to Pastor Hale three years ago? Mr. Obama will stand on the Truman balcony and shoot the American eagle flying over the White House tonight. Not literally. I'm not saying he's walking out on the balcony. But this, metaphorically, is what's going to happen tonight. It represents the destruction of freedom and liberty in the Constitutional Republic.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Phase three will be rioting and looting everywhere. Oklahoma U.S. Senator Tom Coburn told USA Today that Mr. Obama's executive amnesty decree may provoke violence. He said, quote, the country's going to go nuts because they're going to see it as a move outside the authority of the president. And it's going to be a very serious situation. You're going to see, hopefully not, but you could see instances of anarchy. You could see violence. End of quote. Again, that's U.S. Senator Tom Coburn.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Every American male with ancestral roots in this country knows that Mr. Obama is killing the republic tonight. The country is being overthrown from within. The balance of power will shift. Millions of people in this country illegally will be granted legal status and the floodgates will open for millions more to pour into. Even worse, the constitutional framework of checks and balances between the three branches of government will end tonight. Mr. Obama will take off his mask, bare his teeth to the Congress and the people, and rule from this day forth as a dictator. Reverend Pinnockoff, the American missionary to the Philippines, said in a prophetic warning recorded on November 30, 2013, that by November 30, 2014, Mr. Obama will strike like a thunderbolt and launch a campaign
Starting point is 00:08:11 of persecution. He said the Lord told him he wouldn't live to see it happen. Reverend Penicoff died last summer. The executive amnesty decree by Emperor Obama is time to coincide with the grand jury announcement in Ferguson, Missouri. If the white police officer is not indicted, the communists will whip up furious reactions among St. Louis' black residents. Communist agitators will be in the crowds to shoot and stab police officers in order to provoke a heavy-handed response by law enforcement officers. Furthermore, rabble-rousers such as the tax evader Al Sharpton have plans in place for so-called spontaneous protests in at least 25 cities. The only thing missing in this chaos is terrorism, so don't be surprised if Mr. Obama's bros in the Muslim Brotherhood and the Nation of Islam get involved in the action too. Barry Satoro, alias Barack Obama, is a Saul Alinsky-trained
Starting point is 00:09:15 communist agitator. You're going to see very soon his skills in action. It isn't a coincidence that he chose November 20th to shoot the American eagle out of the sky. Today is the 100th and fourth anniversary of the start of the Mexican Revolution, known as Civil War Day. The communists started a revolution on November 20th, 1910, that lasted for a decade. One of the revolutionaries was Plutarco Elias Calas, who later became president of Mexico. He was a communist and high-ranking Freemason. He ordered the Catholic Church priests to stop criticizing him in sermons. He organized his own goon squad that terrorized churches throughout Mexico.
Starting point is 00:10:10 The thugs would burst into churches, ransack the sanctuaries, beat up the pastors, or even hang them in front of the congregation and then set fire to the church buildings. The movie For Greater Glory is an excellent portrayal of the Cristeros War against the Mexican Christians. The point I'm making is that Barack Obama is a communist. He chose November 20th to sign the decree tonight. He knows it is the anniversary of the Mexican Communist Revolution. And he knows that it started a civil war that resulted in many churches being burned to the ground. Now, my November 3rd newsletter was eerily accurate, too accurate for my liking. I likened Mr. Obama to Julius Caesar's defiance of the Roman Senate, which also started the civil
Starting point is 00:11:02 war. Today, Senator Ted Cruz delivered a chilling speech inside the U.S. Senate in which he recited Marcus Cicero's speech to the Roman Senate in the year 63 B.C. against the seditious plots of Lucius Catalina to overthrow the Roman Republic. Senator Cruz replaced Catalina's name with Mr. Obama's name. Here is the speech. The words of Cicero, powerfully relevant, 2077 years later. When, President Obama, do you mean to cease abusing our patience? How long is that madness of yours still to mock us? When is there to be an end to that unbridled audacity of yours,
Starting point is 00:11:55 swaggering about as it does now? Do not the nightly guards placed on the border, do not the watches posted throughout the city, does not the alarm of the people and the union of all good men and women, does not the precaution taken of assembling the Senate in this most defensible place, do not the looks and countenances of this venerable body here present have any effect upon you? Do you not feel that your plans are detected? Do you not see that your conspiracy is already arrested and rendered powerless by the knowledge that everyone here possesses of it. What is there that you did last night? What the night before? Where is it that you were? Who was there that you summoned to meet you? What designs was there
Starting point is 00:12:55 which was adopted by you, with which you think that any one of us is unequated. Shame on the age and its lost principles. The Senate is aware of these things. The Senate sees them. And yet this man dictates by his pen and his phone. Dictates. Ah, he won't even come into the Senate. He will not take part in the public deliberations. He ignores every individual among us. And we gallant men and women think that we are doing our duty
Starting point is 00:13:41 to the republic if we keep out of the way of his frenzied attacks. You ought, President Obama, long ago have been led to defeat by your own disdain for the people. That destruction which you have been long plotting ought to have already fallen. What shall we, who are the Senate, tolerate President Obama openly desirous to destroy the Constitution in this republic? For I pass over older instances, such as how the IRS plotted to silence American citizens. There was, there was once such virtue in this republic that brave men and women would repress mischievous citizens with severe chastisement than the most bitter enemy.
Starting point is 00:14:44 For we have a resolution of the Senate, a formidable and authoritative decree against you, Mr. President. The wisdom of the republic is not at fault, nor the dignity of this senatorial body. We, we alone, I say it openly, we the Senate, are waiting in our duty to stop this lawless administration and its unconstitutional amnesty. I will repeat my warning. America is now in a dictatorship. Life in this country changes tonight after 8 p.m. The republic is dead. The church will be persecuted in the months and years
Starting point is 00:15:35 ahead. This is not going to be a pleasant time to live in the USA. There's going to be much suffering. Freedom of speech will end for many people. If you oppose the revolution, you will suffer the consequences. My guest today knows what it's like to be on the receiving end of the Obama-nista crackdown on free speech. Jeff Finholt is a famous Christian vocalist. Prior to his salvation, he was the original lead performer in the Broadway musical adaptation of Jesus Christ Superstar. He later accepted Jesus Christ as Savior and went on to record numerous Christian albums. But Jeff is also an outspoken American citizen, and he found
Starting point is 00:16:19 out what happens when you cross Mr. Obama. He's on the telephone right now to tell us the true story. Jeff, welcome back to True News. Thank you. Good to be here. What a commentary you just spoke out. I mean, it's all spot on. Do you think there's a chance for Or sort of a revalue, a recalibration? Do you think that the Republican can be reinstalled, if you will, through the ballot rather than the bullet? I mean, where do you think we're going? No, I don't. I think we're done. I think we're in a dictatorship. I think I said in 2012, after the November 12 election, I said the American people were being taken into captivity. And now the captivity really is tightening.
Starting point is 00:17:13 And, you know, when you add to this the the IRS harassment of conservative and Christian groups, the NSA snooping on our surveillance. They've been harassing me. They've harassed you for a long time. But when you put this all together, it's a dictatorship. Correct. The IRS started on me back when I rented the Capitol Steps in Washington, D.C. back in 1996. And I was the chairman of Washington for Jesus for the youth movement there. It rained the day that we did the event, and we still had, according to Park Police in Washington, D.C., 475,000 to 500,000 Christian youth on the steps of the Capitol.
Starting point is 00:18:09 Right after that, I started getting harassed by the IRS and had different audits, different stuff going on and literal threats. And then more recently, in 2012, February, I believe it was, the Secret Service showed up at my beachfront home in Newport Beach and knocked on my door at seven o'clock in the morning and insisted on coming in. And they showed me their badges at 7 in the morning. I was kind of certainly taken aback. And they said, is your name Jeffrey, you know, blah, blah, blah, Fenholt? And I said, yes. And they said, Secret Service put up their badges. And they said,
Starting point is 00:19:08 we'd like to speak with you. I said, what's this about? He said, have you ever threatened the president of the United States? And I said, I started laughing. I said, okay, you're kidding. I said, who are you guys? And a lot of my old rock and roll friends and even some of my new doctor friends and people do a lot of kidding around and goofy stuff. And I just, I thought I was being punked. You know, I said, now, come on, who are you guys? They said, we're the Secret Service. And we need to come in and talk with you. So then I realized it was serious, and just to cut to the chase, they were there for nearly an hour. They went back through my computer, two months on my computer,
Starting point is 00:19:56 and then they kept asking code questions like, do you have any anti-American, anti-Obama posters in this house? And I said no, and then they said, do you mind if we take a look? Well, that was their way to kind of initiate going through my house. And while I was talking to one agent, another agent was going through my house, and they asked me what kind of guns I had, told me to show them to them, which I did not do. And at that point, I had them on video, actually. I was taking videos of them and I was taking pictures of them going through my house. And they said, turn off the camera,
Starting point is 00:20:38 do not, you know, blah, blah, blah. You can't take pictures of us. I said, this is my house. And I started laughing. And I said, I'm a fisherman. I love to fish. I said, so all my friends know that when it comes to fishing and stuff, I will lie like a rug. I said, if I don't take pictures of you guys, nobody's going to believe this. I said, it's too far out for you guys to be going through my house and trying to intimidate me in my own house. And the guy said, well, what kind of guns do you have? I said, nothing you'd be interested in. And then on video, after about 30 minutes, you hear me finally address the guy that was kind of taking the lead. And I said, you know what, you're starting to tick me off. And that's when it turned sort of a little bit different.
Starting point is 00:21:37 But, you know, I've thought about it since. And I thought if people said, well, you shouldn't have let them in. I think that if I hadn't let them in, they would have gone for a search warrant, and I would have been taken to headquarters there in Newport Beach or wherever, Anaheim, wherever. But, you know, I'm not the type to get intimidated What in the world did you say that made them think you were a threat to our imposter in the White House? They said that I was reported by Facebook. Oh, Facebook. or whatever his name is, that owns it, who, as you recall, Rick, I'm sure, about a month or two after Obama got into office, one of the first big meetings he held in the White House was with the owner or CEO of Google, Apple, and Facebook. Obama had a meeting with them within a month or so of taking office,
Starting point is 00:22:48 and they had a three- or four-hour meeting in the White House that was off the record. So nobody knew what the meeting was about. I know we shouldn't go around inventing motives, but I can't help but think he got these leftist commie types together and said, you're going to help me spy on America. Because Google and Facebook and all these guys, they're all being used by the NSA now to spy on us. And the Secret Service guys that came to my house said that I was reported by Facebook for threatening the president of the United States and anti-government comments. Well, I had made anti-Obama administration comments. I had said that I had read both of his books and in his own books, dreams from his father. It's not dreams of his father. It means dreams from his father that are his dreams. And in that, he said things like that he and his father, as it were, are anti-colonial.
Starting point is 00:24:09 What's colonialism? It's nations like Europe and the United States coming in and taking over countries and helping build them up or, you know, to develop mineral rights and blah, blah, blah. Or install civilization. Yeah, and to install government and the rule of law. And certainly if you look at things that have transpired since he's been in the White House and all of his insidious, he and Holder, they're insidious, tearing away at the fabric of this country and trying to cause trouble in places like disorderly conduct, whereas he could have been arrested for a lot of other reasons. But there have been key points where it's easy to see that Obama feels that anti-colonial. He doesn't want America to be great around the world.
Starting point is 00:25:26 But I'm getting off into the weeds. When I asked the Secret Service to give me, I said, show me the information, because they were holding clipboards with things, papers and stuff on. I said, show me where I've said anything that would be pejorative about Obama that would indicate, you know, wanting to harm him physically or, you know, that I want to overthrow the government. I said, show me. He said, we can't. I said, show me proof of why you're here. He said, we can't.
Starting point is 00:26:03 I said, so you don't have any reason to be here? He said, you were reported. So I said, all you have to do is report somebody. Somebody has to report another person, and you guys have to show up and interrogate them. And he said, that's right. So they said, we want to look at your computer. They got on my computer and went back two months. See, Jeff, this is a tactic of political thugs, which they use law enforcement to go after anybody who criticizes the thug. And they know there's no proof. But the point is, you got the visit, and you told people about it, and you're telling people about it right now, and there's a chill that goes through the air.
Starting point is 00:26:54 Be careful what you say about the thug in the White House. Well, and then about a month or two later, hello, IRS. The IRS came in and said that I had, that I owed them, I think, I can't remember now what we've added up or where it was, but I was thinking it was between $600,000 and a million bucks altogether and blah, blah, blah. And they said that my owing money to the government, the IRS, they went back to 1992. Well, I called my tax attorney and blah, blah, blah. And the tax attorney said, well, they're only allowed to go back seven years. He said, unless you committed a fraud. And he said, you certainly haven't done that. So he said, my attorney said, this is
Starting point is 00:27:46 harassment as long as they're not levying accounts or going after you overtly. He said, they're trying to ruin your credit. He said, they're trying to harass you enough so that you're kind of put out to pasture and can't do any more of these rent-in-the-capital-steps type stuff. And he says, just because you've been highly visible in your life and the government doesn't like it, this government with Obama, these leftists, I hate to even use the word leftists, I prefer to say what they are, and that's one world government people or politicians, whatever you want to call them. They want the United States to become one world oriented, and they figure where as America goes, so does the world. So we're under attack, serious attack. And they figure where, as America goes, so does the world. So we're under attack, serious attack.
Starting point is 00:28:52 But anyway, the IRS came and set out on like a million bucks. So I posted that on Facebook. Because I figured you're only, you know, your secrets are what they're hoping. You'll be scared and you'll want to hide and you won't want anybody to know it because nobody will hire you. Well, you know, I haven't applied for any jobs, you know, the last 30 years. So that wouldn't really bother me. But then what happened was then the GOP that are basically just waffling around issues. They held some rather ineffectual hearings on the IRS harassing conservatives and conservative groups. And it was like instantaneous. All the attacks from the IRS in Cincinnati that came after me,
Starting point is 00:29:51 all those attacks immediately stopped right at the beginning of the congressional hearings. And I thought, wow, that's strange. Guess what? Funny enough, yesterday, a year and a half after the congressional meetings, yesterday the IRS came after me from Holtzville, Long Island. That's what you get for accepting this invitation to be on the program. Well, I live in Newport Beach, California, and I live on a ranch in Colorado, and I'm spending all my time out on the ranch. If the IRS is going to come after me, wouldn't you think they'd come after me where I live? And that's another thing my attorney said.
Starting point is 00:30:30 He said, they keep coming after you from Cincinnati, from New York. They've come after me from different locations. And, you know, and he said, this is just simple harassment. So now the IRS has reopened, apparently, harassment. The majority of America is against what's happening in America today, but we don't seem to know how to organize, and the government is spying on everybody. So it's not like, you know, 50 years ago where people could get together and talk and get a grass movement going. You can just go on on any level. But Obama, the students and the people that were marching in the streets of Egypt several years ago, they were marching for freedom and democracy. And this pimp that we have in the White House left them out to dry.
Starting point is 00:31:30 Let them hang out to dry. Actually, what he did, Jeff, his Muslim Brotherhood buddies very shrewdly took control of that movement and made it appear that the people wanted the Muslim Brotherhood in power. Obama orchestrated the Muslim Brotherhood takeover of Egypt, and thank God the Egyptian army finally got rid of those idiots and chased them out and put a lot of them in prison. And it seems that that's—I mean, I hate to – I need to be careful how I speak on here. But it seems to me that we're getting to the point where that's about the only thing that's going to happen to turn this country around. It's a military takeover.
Starting point is 00:32:17 The problem with that is you never know who you're going to wind up with. You could wind up with Hitler speaking English. That's right. Certainly I wouldn't like that, and I'm certainly not advocating that. Let me tell you what's going on here. A good part of 2014, our building has been under surveillance. Oh, yeah. There have been cars parked in my office, look out the window, and see the black sedan parked outside my office for hours.
Starting point is 00:32:50 And one vehicle will come in, sit there for a couple hours, leave, and another vehicle will come in and park in the exact same spot. And it's almost eight solid hours every day. Now, a couple weeks ago, I just publicly started talking about it, and it let up, you know. Now, there's been a couple since then. There was one yesterday. I just walked out and greeted the person. That's what I do now.
Starting point is 00:33:19 I just walk out and, you know, tap on the window, tell them I want to talk to them, take a photograph of their license plate. You know, we're building up a nice archive of license plate numbers, and, you know, we're doing some background. I'm not cracking on you, Rick, but who are you going to give the numbers to? A private investigator. Yeah, but then they come back to the obvious sure it's state department it's this it's that then who are you going to give it to right now this government is
Starting point is 00:33:52 is besieged well we don't know we don't know if it is we don't know if they are working for the feds or whether they're working for a very wealthy leftist political funder. You know, somebody who's these billionaires that are paying, you know, you know, tens of millions, hundreds of millions of dollars to finance this political revolution. I just read today. I was just reading today in in one of the newspaper websites that, you know, one particular businessman dumped 60 million dollars of his money into the Senate campaigns last year to elect leftist senators. I mean, one man spent $60 million. And this is what I'm trying to get across to our listeners who think, well, who would pay for private detectives to sit outside the window of Rick Wiles' office for days and weeks and months? Somebody that doesn't like what I'm doing for days, weeks and months and years on the radio.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Somebody that wants to drive us out of business. And I think the government, this particular administration, I think they're selective. I don't think they're just, you know, doing the NSA surveillance of the masses. And yes, they are, but that's not all of it. I think they're picking out Rick Wilds, and they're picking out Sven Holt, like me, and they're looking at certain people that they believe could or are wielding now the power to create an upswell of anti-Obama government sentiment, and they're going after those people. I mean, I've got friends in Beverly Hills, and they're conservative, and they believe in the United States and blah, blah, blah. And these are very high net wealth guys.
Starting point is 00:35:51 I'm not going to name them on this broadcast because I don't have permission to. But they've been getting harassed now, starting to be harassed like crazy. And one of the biggest things that the government's doing right now is they're using the IRS. And the IRS, as you know, they don't have any boundaries. They can come in now and take, seize money from people. And then when the person says, why did you seize my money? They say, we think you're doing some illegal things you need to go prove to us that you're not doing illegal things just like what happened to me in my house when i asked the secret service show me why you're here and they said we can't they're doing it they're doing it
Starting point is 00:36:38 to a lot of mom and pop store owners who you know have like a grocery store or a convenience store in neighborhoods where the people deal with cash. And because the feds consider cash deposits in the bank account to be suspicious, then every time a grocer deposits $6,000, $8,000, $10,000 in cash in a bank account every day, then they consider that suspicious activity. They go in. They don't question the grocer. They don't give that person a chance to explain. They simply go in, tell the bank, we're seizing all of that money.
Starting point is 00:37:21 And they strip that person completely bare. And and then they say prove to us you weren't doing something illegal well first of all the guy's broke the guy's broke you know they take they've taken everything from him how's he even going to defend himself i heard of a business owner i believe he was in new york who was conservative guy who got $444,000 taken out of his business account by the IRS with no charges filed. Just they took it out and told him he would have to go to court. He doesn't have any money left. And he had, I think he was selling cigarettes, I don't know, whatever, in his shop or whatever. But they took $444,000 from him and shut him down. He couldn't go on. I have another friend who's trying to put together a big business.
Starting point is 00:38:16 He wants to go national, and he tried to put the first 20 stores together. But then when they got into the insurance and Obamacare, they can't even open the doors. They can't open the doors. They're upside down underwater before they start because of the cost of this mandated insurance. But, you know, I asked them, the Secret Service, you know, if I could face my accuser or whatever, or if Facebook had to give them some reason why they could come after me or whatever. He said no. He said we don't have to see anything. All we have to see is somebody report you. You know what bugs me, Rick? Do you ever feel like every day
Starting point is 00:39:08 we're letting more build up of this communistic, one-world government happen in this country without any kind of pushback. That's a good word. I feel that every day. I've been Johnny One Note for 15 and a half years on the radio about what's coming. And now, Jeff, now that it's here, it's difficult for me to continue on the air sounding the alarm. Because I'm like, hey, folks out there, listen. I've been warning and warning and warning that it's coming. Well, it's now here.
Starting point is 00:39:51 It's eating your lunch, and you still don't get it. It's an attack on our Christianity. It's an attack on our belief system. It's an attack on Christ and our faith in Christ. The big attack on America is on Christianity. And we are the ones who set the culture in this country, which was a Judeo- Christian culture. But you know, the United States of America, the only ground we've ever kept in any war has been enough ground to bury our dead. We haven't taken over anybody through war. So I believe the assault in America is an assault on our Christianity and our culture. And then, Jeff, if it is Christianity that's being attacked, then who is the attacker?
Starting point is 00:40:51 It's very easy to figure this one out. Duh. And it's, of course, if you go to the root of it, my belief system says it's Satan himself, former Lucifer, and it's been said that the greatest accomplishment that Satan has ever done is to make most of the world believe he doesn't exist. That's his greatest accomplishment. So there's all this anti-Christ stuff going on throughout the world and here in America. And it's a lot of godless people. But in any event, a lot of the voters are either ignorant or they're like Hillary Clinton, who wrote her thesis in college at Wellesley University. She wrote her undergrad thesis on Saul Alinsky and his book Rules for Radicals,
Starting point is 00:41:50 which is an absolute roadmap for how communists can take over America. I forget how many points, but he dedicated that book to Lucifer. He said Lucifer was the first revolutionary. And not only did Hillary Clinton write her thesis on that book, she was a personal friend of Saul Alinsky. Well, she wrote her thesis, Rick. She wrote her thesis on the book before the book was released. Absolutely. That's a good point. How did she get a copy of the Rules for Radicals
Starting point is 00:42:27 before anybody else saw it? Because Hillary Clinton was being trained as a young communist comrade. And I understand, I might not be accurate, but I believe I read somewhere that she was actually working for or with Saul Alinsky, that she was one of his worker bees at that point while she was in college. Yes. But, you know, when I was in university, I was pretty radical in a lot of ways.
Starting point is 00:42:59 The ways that I was radical was I was into social issues, but I wasn't communist. I wasn't into, you know, wanting to overthrow the country. When I was young, I wanted to make a bunch of money and I wanted to get successful. By the time I was 20, I was on the cover of Time magazine. And, you know, I went through all these different changes and things through my life. And, you know, but I was always into fiscal conservatism when it came to the economy. And as a matter of fact, the first time I was able to vote, I voted for Nixon. And that was right in the middle of Vietnam, and I liked his conservatism on most things. lot of my social convictions that I had because I'm thinking, isn't $27 trillion worth of welfare enough to get things moving in certain communities in this country? People being organized by the Nation of Islam and all these people who say they're going to go in and burn the neighborhoods.
Starting point is 00:44:23 Well, maybe they could get away with it in Missouri. I kind of doubt it. But I can guarantee you up here where I am right now in the ranch section, I don't think that would be a real good idea. We're going to find out very soon. I would not be surprised that Barack Obama is timing his amnesty announcement with the Ferguson jury announcement so that you've got rioting in Ferguson while there is an invasion over the border in Texas and Arizona. And I mean, this guy, this guy is the master street organizer. I mean, it's the only job he's ever had in his life.
Starting point is 00:45:06 He was a communist agitator. Well, who's the greatest deceiver, even according to Sal Alinsky, in the history of the universe? So it seems that if Lucifer slash Satan is the great deceiver, those who are working with him or for him, either unbeknownst or totally, their total awareness, they would be classic deceivers. I mean, Obama is a chronic liar. And who does the Bible say is the father of lies? And I look around, the thing that you said in your commentary, Rick, that really struck me the hardest, that just almost knocks me down every time I think about it, is how silent the church is in the midst of this. Even though our faith is being eroded, our ability to worship as we please. I mean, you got a lesbian
Starting point is 00:46:08 mayor of Houston who's now calling, who called for pastors to submit their sermons. And if there was anything anti-gay or lesbian in any of their sermons. They could be imprisoned or fined or whatever. You got that stuff going on. You got Obama ruling in favor of Islam everywhere you turn around, but bringing down the curtain on Christians here. And, you know, the pastors are silent. You know, I shouldn't name names, and I won't because I love these guys, but there are pastors like right there in Houston that have 25,000 members in their church, and you haven't heard riff out of them about this gay mayor. When I was on TV all the time, part of the reason I left was I was being told what to say and what not to say. You mean on Christian television? On Christian television.
Starting point is 00:47:10 I was told one of the last straws was a guy came with videotapes of Mardi Gras and Gay Street and Mardi Gras. This would have been back around 1998. And there were things on that tape that we couldn't show on Christian television. But I was having him on and I was hosting a big show, the big flagship show. And I got called by the director or whomever who represents one of the co-founders. And I was told, you're not airing that program. We're not taping that program. We will not say anything anti-gay or anything anti-Islam or Muslim on this network,
Starting point is 00:48:01 and you're not to do that. We have enough trouble without having to deal with them. Well, you get a Houston mayor standing up and asking for the sermons of five or six pastors of big churches in Houston, and then the biggest church in Houston, whom the pastor is a guy I've known since he was a kid, I mean, for 25 years or whatever, and not a word out of him, not a word on Christian television about our rights being eroded. How Lindsay got, you know— He got booted off TV for a while for daring to talk about Islam. There in Houston, it's even worse because
Starting point is 00:48:47 Joe Osteen actually went to the inauguration of the lesbian mayor and spoke, he spoke the blessing over her and said, God raised her up for this hour. Well, I would certainly take exception to the last statement there. I believe, you know, I will pray for anybody, but I'm not going to go saying God's raised this up for an hour such as this on anything that's called sin in the Bible. And of course, I've been guilty of the worst. One time, Paul Crouch on TBN said, Jeff, we just have a few minutes left. Would you share some testimony, some of your testimony? And I looked up, and I saw we only had a few minutes left.
Starting point is 00:49:34 And I thought, well, that's funny, Paul. So I just looked down at the camera, and I said, okay, everybody, all you people around the world, look at me and think the absolute worst. I said, it's all true, and Christ has forgiven me. So, you know, I would pray, if I was asked to pray, I would pray for the mayor of Houston. I'd say, dear God, bless her and let her come to know you in a really deep way. And I pray for all the gay and lesbian people here in Houston. I pray for you to draw nigh unto God and God to draw nigh unto you and for you to come to the knowledge of Christ. I feel perfectly happy praying that kind of a prayer. But when you start getting into all the smoke, you know, blowing smoke and everything,
Starting point is 00:50:27 God has raised you up for an hour such as this, and this is God's ordination and blah, blah, blah. And throughout the political battle over that lesbian, gay rights, transgendered city ordinance, which allows men to use women's restrooms and women to use men's restrooms. All right, but Joe Osteen never said peep. He never put his church online with the other pastors. He stayed neutral. To be fair, nobody is talking. The Christians are mute.
Starting point is 00:51:06 They're not saying anything. Nobody's saying anything. There's nothing going on. And I've had the big Christian network contact me a lot and ask me to come on the programs and do this. I stopped. I quit for a plethora of reasons, not all of which is what I'm discussing right now. But now I keep getting asked to come back. And to be honest with you,
Starting point is 00:51:33 Rick, if I can't speak like I'm speaking here candidly with you as two believers in Christ and the power of Almighty God, and not some pervert named Muhammad and some missing in action so-called God named Allah. I mean, it doesn't exist. The religion is satanic. And you know, I wouldn't go on TV like bazooka mouth. I mean, I wouldn't just come out and say, well, you're all going to hell and you're all, you know. But if you can't have freedom in Christ with the guidance of the Holy Ghost, who is a gentleman, by the way, you know, what's the point of going on? Jeff, America had its first beheading.
Starting point is 00:52:25 Well, it's actually not the first one, but, you know America had its first beheading. Well, it's actually not the first one, but the most public beheading where a Muslim cut off the head of a woman in Oklahoma City, September I think 26. And hardly a word was said about it in the United States, and certainly
Starting point is 00:52:39 not a word on Christian television and Christian radio. It never happened. And Obama gave some sort of accreditation or something to the mosque. The mosque, yes. Do you remember that? Right after that. He sent a Homeland Security official to the mosque to tell them that, you know, the president is concerned about their feelings, that they don't feel persecuted for producing a beheader.
Starting point is 00:53:14 But the president actually gave them some kind of commendation, yeah, for some type of civic award. An award for peace and excellence, even though people in the mosque said that the imam or the cleric or whatever his position is in that particular mosque, behind the scenes at, like, quote-unquote, Koran studies or whatever. He speaks total death to America, and there were several people that come out and say that he was in total solidarity with what happened in Oklahoma City. But that aside, where are the churches standing up and saying, why do we have a mosque in Oklahoma City with this kind of carrying on, going on? And why don't they ever, the Christians and the pastors, why don't they stand up and quote
Starting point is 00:54:14 the Quran? You know, we're always talking in the church of Christ, Jesus, those of us, we're always talking about backsliders. Well, I've had periods since I've been saved where I was doing a few things that would be called backslidden, and it was mostly right after I got saved. Muslims that people like to talk about, like Bill O'Reilly. He'll waffle on for hours, groaning and droning about, well, you know, just a few of the Muslims are, you know, the jihadist extremists. But most of Islam is a peaceful religion. Bologna, macaroni. I mean, are you kidding me? Read the Quran. Well, Mr. O'Reilly. If they're not out for beheading people and killing the infidels and taking over the world, they're backsliding.
Starting point is 00:55:14 Mr. O'Reilly has to say those things because one of the investors in Fox News is a Saudi. Yeah. So he has to say these things. He's not, you know, we've been bought off. We've been co-opted. And it's becoming very. I'm sure O'Reilly's memorandum when that happened was Prince Saudi Al Shaddaf, Aba Dubi, just bought 30 percent of Fox News Corp., which is the parent company.
Starting point is 00:55:49 So, Mr. O'Reilly, for now, and you will bend over before you go on the air, please. That's right. If this slide into totalitarianism continues and accelerates in the coming months and year or so, what are you going to do? But I wound up on a ranch out in Colorado where we can go off the grid in a matter of minutes. I mean, we have our own spring water. We got elk in the right front of the house every morning. We got rabbits and all kinds of stuff. We have gardens. I mean, ostensibly, if I wanted to or the need arose, I could be off the grid surrounded by ranchers who will shoot first and ask later. My neighbor has a big sign that says if you're found on this ranch tonight, you will be found here tomorrow. You know, so me personally, I would like to think that if there is ever a call to action in this country, that there would be some use for me, even though I'm now crossing my own Rubicon age-wise.
Starting point is 00:57:16 I've been hitting some big numbers up here, but I'm still healthy. I'm still, you know still in good shape. And I would like to think that there will be a clarion call at some point and that people will literally grab what they need and show up in Washington, D.C. or other capital steps or places in America. And if the need be, Rick, I'd like to see a citizenry stand up. And then, of course, the pushback to that would be Obama would order the military to go and shoot people if they had to. And hopefully the military would rebel and we would take back America or take over and just start a new country. And did you know that Washington repatriated over 100,000 people at the close of the revolution? And I believe there were only 6 million people in America. So that was one out of 60 people or
Starting point is 00:58:19 something like that were repatriated. And they had fought and stood up for King George and the Redcoats. And Washington had them all rounded up, put on boats, and sent back to Europe. And they were told that if they came back, they would be killed. I believe that we're entering the most dangerous two-year period in this country's history. I really believe it. Between 2015 and 2017 is going to be an extremely dangerous time to be in the United States of America. Hey, we're out of time. I want to thank Jeff Finholt for spending this hour with me right here on True News.
Starting point is 00:59:02 Jeff, always a pleasure to have you. It's good to find somebody who will speak his mind. And we do Christian radio different around here. We actually encourage people to say what they believe. Well, this is a call to pastors to start standing up for our Christian beliefs in this country and call down the fire of God. Amen. Amen. Thank you for joining us for today's presentation with host Rick Wallace, speaking to music artist and Broadway star Jeff Finhol.
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