TRUNEWS with Rick Wiles - Jim Marrs: Population Control & Reduction
Episode Date: August 29, 2023On today’s edition of TruNews, we go back to September 24, 2015, with host Rick Wiles speaking to the author of the book “Population Control”, Jim Marrs In his compelling exploration, acclaimed ...New York Times best-selling author Jim Marrs delves into the shadowy underbelly of societal decline and the ominous presence of the G.O.D. syndicate – an insidious global alliance comprising guns, oil, and drugs. Drawing from a vast reservoir of research and insight, Marrs not only reveals how this syndicate has methodically eroded American values but also presents a roadmap to revitalizing our nation. The foundational principle enshrined in the Declaration of Independence asserts that every individual is endowed with certain unalienable rights, including Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness. Yet, the glaring disparity between these noble ideals and the current state of affairs in America is striking. The promise of equal opportunity has been fractured, leaving millions without homes even as numerous residences stand vacant. Despite its technological prowess, the U.S. grapples with a life expectancy that lags behind nations like Chile and Bahrain. In a disconcerting twist, citizens of the nation once celebrated for its prosperity consume toxic substances through food, vaccines, and water.Jim Marrs contends that a culture of death has taken root, corroding the nation's spirit. The architects of this destructive narrative? The puppeteers of the G.O.D. syndicate – the masters of guns, oil, and drugs. This unholy trinity, he argues, is driving America towards an unsettling destiny of decline, enslavement, and premature demise. Rick Wiles, Doc Burkhart. Airdate 8/29/23You can partner with us by visiting TruNews.com/donate, calling 1-800-576-2116, or by mail at PO Box 690069 Vero Beach, FL 32969.It’s the Final Day! The day Jesus Christ bursts into our dimension of time, space, and matter. Now available in eBook and audio formats! Order Final Day from Amazon today! https://www.amazon.com/Final-Day-Characteristics-Second-Coming/dp/0578260816/Apple users, you can download the audio version on Apple Books!https://books.apple.com/us/audiobook/final-day-10-characteristics-of-the-second-coming/id1687129858Purchase the 4-part DVD set or start streaming Sacrificing Liberty today. https://www.sacrificingliberty.com/watchThe Fauci Elf is a hilarious gift guaranteed to make your friends laugh! Order yours today! https://tru.news/faucielf
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On today's edition of True News, we go back to September 24, 2015, with host Rick Wiles speaking to
the author of the book, Population Control. Jim Mars
and his compelling exploration, acclaimed New York Times bestselling author,
delves into the shadowy underbelly of societal decline
and the ominous presence of the G-O-D, God's Syndicate,
an insidious global alliance comprising of guns, oil, and drugs.
Drawing from a vast reservoir of research and insight,
Mars not only reveals how this syndicate has methodically eroded American values,
but also presents a roadmap to revitalizing our nation.
The foundational principle enshrined in the Declaration of Independence
asserts that every individual is endowed with certain inalienable rights,
including life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
Yet the glaring disparity between these noble ideas
and the current state of affairs in America is striking.
The promise of equal opportunity has been fractured,
leaving millions without homes, even as numerous residences stand vacant.
And despite its technological prowess, the U.S. grapples with a life expectancy that lagged behind nations like
Chile and Bahrain. In a disconcerting twist, citizens of the nation once celebrated for its
prosperity consumed toxic substances through food, vaccines, and water. Jim Morris contends that a
culture of death has taken root, corroding the
nation's spirit, and that the architects of this destructive narrative, who are they? The puppeteers
of the God syndicate, those masters of guns, oil, and drugs. This unholy trinity, he argues, is
driving America towards an unsettling destiny of decline, enslavement, and premature demise.
Now, in his book, Population Control, Mars confronts the sobering reality of our nation's descent
and proposes actionable solutions to reclaim our destiny.
Peering into the intricate web of daily existence, from the sustenance we consume
to the fluids we imbibe and the medications we ingest,
Mars reveals a harrowing pattern that pushes us closer to an untimely end.
However, he doesn't leave us in despair.
Instead, he offers a lifeline, a blueprint for true prosperity
that hinges on a collective awakening.
Through meticulously researched insights,
he unveils the avenues we must traverse to counteract the stranglehold of
that God syndicate and rejuvenate our lives and the essence of our nation. Jim Mars beckons us
to peer into the dark corners of our society, to acknowledge the precipice on which we stand,
and to muster the courage to reverse our course. With a blend of historical context,
analytical scrutiny, and a vision for a brighter
future, the book Population Control not only exposes those forces at play, but also stokes
the flames of hope that a renewed America, pulsating with life, is within our grasp.
Here is Rick Wiles speaking to Jim Mars from September 2015. I have talked for years about Agenda 21.
Did you know that Agenda 21 is being supersized this week?
Agenda 21 is now Agenda 2030.
Hundreds of world diplomats are gathered this week
at the United Nations headquarters
to formally adopt Agenda 2030 for sustainable
development. It will replace the 15-year plan known as the Millennium Development Goals
adopted by the UN back in the year 2000. During the next 15 years, world leaders will seek to
eradicate poverty in the world and redistribute wealth, resources, and property.
It sounds like the Communist Manifesto to me.
If the UN is serious about implementing its Agenda 2030 scheme,
world leaders know they must reduce the planet's population.
In an article published by Yale on September 22,
former director of the United Nations Population Division Joseph Chamey wrote,
quote,
As world leaders convened for the UN Sustainable Development Summit in New York
to reflect on the progress of the Millennium Development Goals set in 2000
and to adopt more goals for 2030,
they ought to focus on the elephant in the room,
a swelling global population that weighs on sustainability of social, economic, and environmental development.
A swelling global population that has tripled since 1950, with a record high of 7.3 billion people,
should not be overlooked in setting new international development goals.
There is not a single issue among the sustainable development goals, including poverty, hunger,
housing, education, employment, health, gender equality, human rights, and environment,
that would not benefit from reducing high rates of population growth, end of quote.
Investigative journalist Jim Mars is here to talk about one of the most important tenets
of the global elite, population control and reduction.
Jim has been a longtime guest on True News throughout the days when we were back in Dallas,
Fort Worth, where this radio show started in 1999, after serving in Vietnam in a U.S. Army intelligence unit, Jim returned to Fort Worth and became a reporter for the Star-Telegram newspaper.
In 1980, he became a freelance writer.
He burst onto the national scene in 1989 with the publication of the best-selling book, Crossfire, The Plot
That Killed Kennedy. That book became a basis for the Oliver Stone movie, JFK. In the early 1990s,
he began researching a top-secret U.S. government program involving the use of occult psychics and
remote viewers to obtain information for the federal government. His book, SciSpies, was a bestseller.
He also wrote Rule by Secrecy,
which traced the hidden history that connects modern secret societies
to the ancient mysteries.
Jim's other books include The War on Freedom,
The Rise of the Fourth Reich,
The Trillion Dollar Conspiracy, and Above Top Secret.
His newest book is Population Control, How Corporate Owners Are Killing Us.
Jim Mars, welcome back to True News.
Hey, Rick.
It's always a pleasure to be with you.
That's right.
Thank you.
Glad to have you back.
Jim, a lot.
I mean, you and I, we've covered a lot in 15, 16 years.
Right.
You know, you're one of the first guys I interviewed on these topics back when I just started.
And, you know, my eyes were wide open.
You know, this was all new stuff to me.
You know, it's like what happened to me in 98 is I had this awakening and I realized, hey, a lot of stuff I'm being told by the news and news media and the government, it's not true.
And, man, I was wide-eyed.
I was looking, trying to find people who understood it, made sense of it.
You were one of the people that I came across.
And you've been at this for a long, long time.
And we're really deep now, aren't we, into this global agenda? Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's becoming
more and more obvious. You kind of sound like my literary agent who I was on the phone with the
other day, and she said, you know, years ago, I kind of thought you were kind of a nut, because
you kept telling me this stuff, and it's so wild, and I thought, boy, you know, he's really off the
beam here. She said, but you know what? It turns out everything you ever told me this stuff, and it's so wild. And I thought, boy, you know, he's really off the beam here.
She said, but you know what?
It turns out everything you ever told me is true.
So, yeah, there's kind of an awakening going on.
I think people are beginning to wake up, but there's always a new wrinkle, okay? Okay, for example, one of the chapters that in my new book, Population Control, about how they're giving us bad food and bad air and bad water, it's about how Pepsi-Cola now is dropping aspartame. They've announced that, in fact, what they said was that
one of the officers there at Pepsi said, because there's been such a demand to take,
well, here's what he said. Seth Kaufman, senior vice president of Pepsi, says diet cola drinkers in the U.S. told us they wanted aspartame-free diet Pepsi, and we're delivering.
Okay, well, the only problem—so see, there's good news.
We can—and I think, Rick, this gives us the difference between socialism and capitalism, okay?
And there's problems with both, of course.
But with socialism, you know, you've got bureaucrats running a central authority.
And if the people say, we don't want this, they don't have to listen to them because they're the authority.
But now capitalism, that's if you have true free enterprise, then, you know, the corporation does something you don't like.
You say, we don't like that.
We want something else.
And another corporation will listen to you, and you can actually get changes made.
And here's a good example.
That's right.
But it only took Pepsi a couple decades to get around to this decision.
Yeah, right. Well, and also, let's don't forget that what they say is that they are now
flavoring, instead of aspartame, they're going to have a blend of sucralose and
asulfamide potassium, neither of which are really good and healthy for you. In fact, a sulfane K, known as ASK, is a potassium salt containing methane chloride, a known carcinogen.
And long-term exposure to that can cause nausea, headaches, mood problems, impaired liver and kidney problems,
eyesight, possibly cancer.
So, you know, they switch from one chemical to another.
And, again, this is something I cover in my book, Population Control. You know, when I was a kid and growing up in the 40s and 50s, we ate locally produced food and vegetables.
And, you know, there were very little chemicals in the food and no real processed food.
But starting in the mid-late 50s and going into the 60s and 70s, more and more processed food.
I remember when they came out with TV dinners, and everybody just thought, boy, what a wonderful thing.
You stick it in the oven, warm it up, and you've got a dinner, you know.
But it's processed, and it's full of chemicals, and they still are.
And the problem here is that today you've got all these sugars and sugar substitutes and chemicals,
thousands of chemicals.
I mean, just read the contents of most food, and, you know, very little of it is real food.
Most of it is chemicals.
And as a result, though, it tastes great, but it's not truly nutritious.
And this, of course, is leading to various health problems, not the least of which is, in this country, is obesity.
You know, people are just getting bigger and bigger and fatter and fatter.
And, of course, that's attendant with the bad food and non-nutritious food is the fact that we're all now more and more sedentary.
We all sit at a computer or sit in front of the TV all the time instead of being up active and moving all around.
And, of course, with this comes more and more health problems. And this has given rise to an incredible
medical empire, pharmaceuticals. And the doctors are all trained in allopathic medicine, which
says, you know, find out what's going on and then treat the symptoms with a pill,
with some kind of drug. And it's nothing but a, it just creates more and more problems. So what I reveal in my book,
Population Control, is all this is not simply just happening. It's not just happenstance,
and it's not just totally corporate greed, although that plays a big role in it.
This is a plan by the elitist, the eugenicists who own the multinational corporations.
And back to what you said at the beginning of the program about they really truly feel
that the biggest problem in the world is overpopulation.
So they're working to reduce it, okay?
And to show you that they're really serious about this, I'd like to quote to you from Prince Philip of the Windsors of the royal family in England and who is a big New World Order guy.
You're talking about the husband of Queen Elizabeth.
Yes.
OK. Elizabeth. Yes. Okay. And he says, in the event that I'm reincarnated, I would like to return as
a deadly virus in order to contribute something to solve overpopulation. He wants us dead. Okay.
You know, Prince Philip is typically a very funny guy, but that's not very funny.
Not very funny. And particularly when you see it in other people that I quote,
Bill Gates, Henry Kissinger, Ted Turner, you know, all these people, they make no bones about it. In
fact, you can see it etched in stone literally at the Georgia Guidestones. this monument in Georgia that's kind of a mystery,
is commissioned by a fellow named, they call himself Christian, but he said that was a phony name.
And it is supposedly guidelines for a more rational world.
And their very first admonition says,
maintain humanity under 500 million in perpetual balance with nature.
Well, that sounds very warm and fuzzy, but wait a minute. There's 7.5 billion of us on this planet
right now. And that leads me to question, number one, what do they want to do with the other $7 billion? And number two,
more importantly even, who's going to decide what's going to happen to those $7 billion?
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Welcome back to True News. I'm Rick Wiles.
I'm talking with Jim Mars.
His new book is Population Control, How Corporate Owners Are Killing Us.
Jim, when you were talking about in the first segment, you mentioned some of the famous billionaires who are very strong supporters of population reduction. I'm sure you'll recall, remember that secret meeting in May 2009
when Bill Gates, David Rockefeller, Ted Turner, Oprah Winfrey,
Warren Buffett, George Soros, Michael Bloomberg,
and I forget who else was in that secret meeting.
But they gathered at the home of Sir Paul Nurse,
a Nobel Prize- winning biochemist.
He was, at that time, I don't know if he still is, the president of Rockefeller University.
And that meeting, that secret meeting was organized by Bill Gates. And the topic of that meeting was how these billionaires could pool their resources to bring about a reduction in the Earth's population.
And this was covered.
And this is not a conspiracy theory that somebody made up.
This was in an article in the Times of London.
The headline was Billionaire Club in Bid to Curb World Population.
That's correct.
And that's exactly what they want to do. Now, I think it is,
this is all based on a fallacious idea, on a phony issue, which is basically overpopulation.
Now, if you live in a big city and you get caught in traffic and, you know, it's real easy to fall
into this and say, wow, there's just too many people,
you know, we got to trim some of this down. But if you'll back off and look at it
impassionately, you figure that right now the current average living space in Hong Kong is
1,700 square feet. Now, you know, I've lived in apartments, and 1,700 square feet, that's bigger than most homes, okay?
So based on 1,700 square feet, the entire 7.5 billion population of the world could live comfortably enough just in the state of Texas.
Now, please don't come rushing down here.
But, you know, the point is I don't think it's truly an overpopulation problem.
It's a population concentration problem.
That's right.
I've done a lot of flying in my lifetime, and I look out plane windows,
and I am amazed at how vast the planet is and all of that undeveloped and uninhabited space.
And I'm not talking about just the United States.
I've flown across Africa, Central America, South America.
There's a lot of empty space down there.
Exactly.
And, of course, the problem is everybody clumps together in these big cities
so that they can have centralized power, centralized water delivery,
centralized garbage collection, things like that.
But that is based on old technology.
Today, it's not some kind of futuristic thinking.
It's absolute off-the-shelf technology that we could be off of these grids.
We could have solar.
We could have tidal generations of energy.
We could have wind power in certain areas, a combination of all of this,
and we could all spread out. In fact, the whole human population, if they wanted to give everybody
maybe an acre of land so they can have their own garden and have their own solar panels up,
to generate electricity, again, the whole world population could probably live on
the continent of Australia, and the rest of the world is just trapped. Jim, what's the real motive
behind it? The real motive is control, okay, and power. They want to control everyone,
and they want to maintain their control. They have the money, so they have the control,
and they want to maintain that. And the reason they have the money and the control is because they own the monopolies.
The basic resources of this planet, energy, pharmaceuticals, raw materials,
are all under the control of a handful of people.
And, of course, the Occupy movement kept talking about the 1 percent, but, you know, actually it's more like one-tenth of 1 percent own probably the vast majority, 60, 70 percent of the world's resources.
And they want to keep it that way.
And so they have bought their way into government.
We now have rampant fascism in the United States.
And before anybody gets all upset, let's look at that.
Fascism is basically defined as the combination of state and corporate power. Okay. In fact,
the term fascism comes from the Italian dictator in World War II, Benito Mussolini, and his black-shirted fascistas.
But Mussolini himself said that fascism may not really be the correct term.
He said the more correct term would be corporatism, ruled by the corporations.
And I think that's exactly what we see happening in the United States today.
And the only difference between today in the United States today. And the only difference between today
in the United States and fascist Italy or Nazi Germany is that in Germany and Italy,
the state gained control over the corporations, and it was that combination that created fascism.
And in modern America, the corporations have gained control over the state.
You know, with the Supreme Court decision said corporations are like people.
You know, they donate all the money they want to to a politician,
and we don't necessarily need to know where all that came from.
Well, you know, this is so now we're under the direct thrall of these corporations.
And at the multinational level, at the highest level, these owners of these corporations, again, they want to reduce the population.
They want us dead.
And so they learn through World War II, you see.
A lot of these people at the very top are eugenicists.
You know, they want to improve the race. And this all started in the United States,
believe it or not, back in the 1800s. And the wife of Edward Harriman, the railroad tycoon,
started the eugenics movement here. And by the mid-1930s, most of the states had
sterilization laws. If you didn't live up to their
standard of height and weight and race and bone structure, well, then, you know, you were subject
to sterilization. Well, in Germany, they bought into this whole thing and carried it to its
logical extreme, which is, hey, we got some people here we don't like, these gypsies and Jews,
and so we'll just kill them and get them out of the way.
And that led to the Holocaust and World War II.
And so, you know, obviously a lot of people said, wait a minute, that's not the way to
operate.
And so today they're having to be more subtle about it.
And what they're doing is they're seeing to it that we have chemicals in our food and chemicals in our water and bad stuff in the air and everything in the world that
collectively is killing us so that they hope to reduce the human population so that they can
maintain their control. Jim, how do the globalists protect themselves? They don't live the same way we live.
There was a White House chef who was the chef there under the Clinton administration and a little bit under the Bush administration.
And he wrote a big article and told how that Hillary Clinton, when she was running the White House,
insisted that he only buy locally produced, organically grown food.
In fact, even had a garden on the roof of the White House to take care of her family, you know, with nothing but pure foods.
And yet Hillary Clinton, of course, is a huge proponent of the Monsanto, who is heavily contributing to her campaign and is all in favor
of GMOs and herbicides and everything else. So, see, they say one thing, but they live another.
Another illustration I'll give is that I heard from a friend of mine in South Texas that he was
involved in the sale of a very expensive boat, I guess a yacht actually, and that one of the Rothschilds from Europe
flew over here to maybe as a potential buyer.
And when he came to Texas, he brought his own food and his own water.
He wouldn't eat the food or drink the water we have.
So, see, they have the money, the power.
They can protect themselves.
But then they push all the bad stuff off on us, on the rest of us.
Yeah.
Have you noticed that old Henry Kissinger and David Rockefeller?
I mean, what are they, 150 years old?
They look like it, and they're still going, you know.
I'm always wondering, what are they doing to keep these guys alive?
You know, it's like they have the best.
And, you know, I see people like Bill Gates, who's a reasonably young man now.
And, of course, by all accounts, started as just, you know, an average American.
But he had a good idea for an operating system.
And the next thing you know, he's one of the world's richest people through Microsoft.
And so I've often wondered now how would these New World Order
people recruit somebody like that? You know, they can't really buy him because he's got as much
money as they do. So what would entice him to be such a supporter of this New World Order?
And I think the answer may be that, you know, they come to him and say, Bill, how'd you like to live to be 150 years old, you know, disease free?
You know, we have the we have the cures and we have the secret stuff.
Now, that'd probably be enough to make him pay attention, wouldn't it?
It may. Hey, Jim, hold it right there. We need to take a break.
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I'm talking with Jim Mars.
He's the author of the new book, Population Control, How Corporate Owners Are Killing Us.
Hey, Jim, at the beginning of the program, I talked about the United Nations.
They're in session this week as we speak, and they're adopting this agenda.
They're adopting Agenda 2030.
You know, for years we've been talking about Agenda 21, still trying to wake up the public about Agenda 21.
They're done with Agenda 21.
You know, our audience, you need to understand this.
They're finished with Agenda 21.
They're on to Agenda 2030.
Right.
You know, the public is way too slow in responding to this stuff.
These guys have their next 15-year plan, and they have a plan for what they believe is going to redesign civilization over the next 15 years.
And when I read their plan, they're talking about the redistribution of wealth and property.
Right.
And, Jim, that's just old-fashioned Marxist communism.
Absolutely. And the problem is, Rick, is that this comes back to one of my big boogaboos because I come from the news media.
I am trained and educated as a journalist and dedicated to journalism.
But there is no news media anymore.
There's only corporate advertising delivery
systems. And we are not being told the full breadth of this. Like if you have some shooting
somewhere that furthers their agenda, try to demonize guns, take guns away from everybody,
then you hear that story day after day for weeks,
okay? And they just keep digging at it, you know, to present in front of you. But when you get a
story like this, which is basically trying to change the basic composition of our country and
our politics, they'll say a little bit one day, and then it goes away. And so most people are totally unaware of what's coming.
Absolutely.
Well, this is being adopted this week.
And so for the days and years ahead, we're going to be talking about 2030,
Agenda 2030, because once this is adopted,
every nation that is a member of the United Nations will be obligated
to begin implementing Agenda 2030,
and they do that through what's called soft law.
The individual nations, their governments, their congresses and parliaments
and their state legislatures and so forth will begin passing laws and regulations
that adopt the UN agenda in their respective countries.
And then your regulatory agencies will do the same thing and corporations will participate.
And this is how they slowly implement global governance.
And you don't even know it's happening to you.
That's right.
And it's basically rule from the top, you know, and it's already begun. Right here in Texas, in Denton
County, which has a big university, and there's a lot of aware people there, they pass an ordinance
against fracking, okay? I cover this in my new book, Population Control. It's hydraulic fracturing,
where they pump up to eight million gallons of water filled with chemicals,
dangerous and heavy metals, chemicals down deep underground under pressure to open up cracks so
that supposedly they can get more gas and oil. But there's been a lot of controversy about this.
It's very expensive. It's very hazardous. They have to pump the water back out and leave in open pits, which then evaporates, puts all these dangerous metals and chemicals into the air for people to breathe.
And not only that, but it's now becoming more and more clear that it's causing earthquakes in places that have never had earthquakes before.
So in Denton County, the local people there voted, and the county commissioners passed an ordinance that prevented fracking.
Well, the governor of Texas then ran through a law that says, you know, you can't stop fracking at the local level.
And, you know, the next step will be if they finally convince the state that, okay, maybe we do need to prevent this and we'll pass a law on that,
then exactly what you're talking about, Rick, under the 2030 United Nations agreement,
they say, no, you can't prevent that, and they can take the state to court.
In fact, everything that's going on in this agenda, along with the Trans-Pacific Partnership,
is giving more and more power to the international corporations. And it's getting to the point now to where they've
almost got it to where if they can go to court and show that some local law is interfering with
their profit line, then that local law can be done away with. Now, you know, this is just leading towards
world dictatorship. You mentioned the Trans-Pacific Partnership. I mean,
this is one of the biggest secrets in the world. Nobody knows what's in this thing.
Exactly. But we've fast-tracked it. Obama has pushed it through so that fast-tracking, which means, you know, it kind of – what it really means is comes down to what Nancy Pelosi said about Obamacare.
You know, we have to pass it so we can find out what's in it.
It's going to change.
It's going to change not only the trade system, but it's going to change our system of government.
Right. the trade system, but it's going to change our system of government because it is a reordering of the relationship of this government with its people and with other nations.
And once that thing's signed, you can't get rid of this stuff.
That's true.
What I've found over my lifetime is once they start a new program or start any new government agency, they never
go away. They only grow and grow and grow. I think the one that I see that still is one of my
biggest gripes is the TSA, Transportation Security Agency. That was rushed through in the wake of the 9-11 attacks and then the panic and fear that everyone was in.
And all of a sudden now, you know, you get groped and you have to go through harmful radiation in those full-body scanners,
and you've got all this going on. And there's been hundreds of these TSA agents
that have been fired for either stealing or sexual advances or whatever, and yet how many terrorists
have they caught? None, not even one. Now you'd think that after 15 years of a group, an organization
that has not shown any beneficial benefits that, you know, you
reconsider it, say, well, maybe we don't need these.
But no, no, they grow and grow.
And now they're talking about arming them.
And now they're talking about giving them more power.
You know, it's just insane.
But nobody seems to be paying any attention.
No, they're going to expand their reach into train stations and bus stations and cruise ships.
And by the way, are you aware that the Real ID Act comes into effect October 1st?
You know, it's on the back burner, but yeah, you're right.
Well, you know, there was an uproar years ago.
Yeah.
And Homeland Security backed down.
All of a sudden, in recent weeks, I'm seeing news articles saying Real ID Act goes into effect October 1st.
Wait a minute.
Where did this thing come from?
Jim?
When did we get a chance to vote on that? Starting October 1st, you will not be able to enter certain federal buildings without a driver's license or an ID approved by Homeland Security.
And then every so many months, they're going to increase, you know, the number of buildings that you cannot enter. And starting in January 2016, you will not be able to board an aircraft, a commercial aircraft, without a Real ID Act approved identification document.
This is going to hit people really hard come January 2016.
It makes me wonder, are they timing this because they know when they are going to have to impose travel restrictions?
Yeah.
Well, there's obviously something in the wind. emergency hospital in Sandy Hook, New York, in preparation for this week's Pope visit and for
whatever may happen in the wake of this. And of course, we've had, just gone through Jade Helm,
this large and secret military operation that involves multi-states and has Texas and Utah and a portion of California listed as hostile territory.
They, you know, and we've seen the, I know I've had people send me photographs and films of United Nations equipment,
tanks and armored vehicles and trucks and stuff with the big U.N.
painted white with U.N. on it, and they're being transported across the country.
And it does seem like as though they are gearing up for something.
Hey, I'm going to throw something at you on a different topic.
The scandal with Volkswagen, this came out of the blue last Friday.
The Volkswagen was accused of installing software in their vehicles that concealed the pollution emission,
and therefore they committed fraud by lying to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency.
They're now talking about $18 billion in fines. The European newspapers are speculating this may be the end of Volkswagen.
The company may be declared bankrupt because of this.
Jim, you know, this may be really far-fetched, but the thought has crossed my mind.
Is this payback for Germany balking against NSA spying?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And also what a lot of people don't really pay attention to is that Germany has become a real economic powerhouse in the world. And they are, of course, balking at the European Union because the Germans
are getting tired of paying for Greece and Ireland and Spain and Italy and some of these other
countries that can't handle their finances. And Germany's been the one that's been taking the
brunt of it. And, you know, and needless to say, there's also old animosities going all the way back to World War I.
And, yeah, they have failed to go along with some of our programs, Pax Americana.
So, yeah, I think that's entirely possible.
Well, you know, I saw something similar to this several years ago when the federal government took over General Motors.
And as soon as the federal takeover was complete, Toyota suddenly had a public relations nightmare.
The U.S. government accused Toyota of having dangerous braking systems in their cars.
And this, you know, the Toyota automobile sales plummeted for a long time.
And I speculated then, was this an act, you know, by the fascist system?
You know, so now you have the U.S. government owning General Motors at the time.
They're controlling it.
And so all the other car manufacturers,
their competitor now is the U.S. government, and the U.S. government is also their regulator.
That's right. And now you're back to the idea of fascism, the combination of state and corporate
power. They're both the same. They're just two sides of the same coin. And, you know, you have trade wars that go
on, and now it's involving countries and nations. This is why we're, on the one hand, we're totally
dependent on China to produce, you know, so much of our consumables. And yet, on the other hand,
we can look at them as maybe one of our most potential enemies, and they keep talking about a war between China and America.
And frankly, I think it's already started, but it's a lukewarm war.
It's not a cold war because there is some stuff going on.
I think those chemical plants that blew up last month were part of this war.
Exactly.
I don't think it was sheer coincidence that the first one blew up the day after China devalued the yuan,
which, of course, would have been harmful to the U.S. dollar.
And then they had this huge explosion in their port.
And then a day or two after that, they said, well, okay, okay, we're not going to devalue as much as we said we were. And so, yeah, I think that what we see here is an economic war that's about to turn hot.
What do you make of the standoff in Syria?
Vladimir Putin is, I mean, he's playing a masterful game of chess.
He's moved his troops and tanks and jet fighters into Syria.
And then he said to Mr. Obama,
hey, I'm here to help you kill ISIS. I know. I know. He is, you know, I hate to say it,
but I wish we had a leader like that. You know, first you have to back off and again,
get dispassionate about it and look at it. When communism collapsed and the Russians said,
okay, okay, we've got all our troops in Eastern Europe, Poland and Czechoslovakia and Bulgaria,
and they said, here, let's just end the Cold War and we will voluntarily withdraw our military from Eastern Europe, you know,
if you promise you won't expand NATO.
And we said, okay.
So it sounded really good, you know.
This is Bill Clinton was coming into office,
and we were going to have a whole new world order going on.
So what's happened?
They pulled out.
We didn't run them out of Eastern Europe.
They voluntarily pulled out. And then what do we do? We have encroached on them one after another with these NATO bases and ringing them with missiles.
And we, in fact, there's been nothing but one provocation after another on Russia to try to get them to turn belligerent. And it's really amazing that Putin has shown such
restraint, I think. Well, they've done everything they can possibly do to bait him to come out and
fight. Well, you know, look at it this way. What if some Russians came over to Texas and talked a
bunch of us Texans into declaring independence from the United States? And let me assure you,
there's, I know know plenty of Texans
down here that wouldn't take a lot of talking. Wouldn't take a lot of talking. And so we say,
yeah, okay, we're going to become the Republic of Texas again. All right. Now, what would the
United States do? Would they just say, yeah, oh, okay, bye, fellas. Well, you know, they tried that back in the 1800s, and they
immediately called up troops to put down a rebellion. Well, this is the same situation
in the Ukraine, folks. Ukraine's always been a part of Russia, and so now they've got a handful
of right-wing extremists who say we want to be independent, and we start talking about them like
they're freedom fighters and, you know, trying to
support them.
And the people that the U.S. backed in that revolution were avowed Nazis and fascists.
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, they don't hide it.
They are Nazis.
Yeah.
And the Russians have a real bad memory about Nazis.
They don't have very good feelings towards those Nazis.
No.
And so I can understand why they're upset.
But this whole thing with Ukraine surfaced after Putin stopped the West from attacking Syria.
Right.
And so they just moved over to Ukraine and started the fight over there. Now he's brought the fight back to Syria because the West organized, funded, trained ISIS, which is the worst barbarians of the last 500 years.
And Putin is saying enough is enough.
And he sent Russian troops into Syria.
And he's saying to Obama, I'm here to help you fight ISIS. Well,
Putin knows that Obama's not trying to destroy ISIS because ISIS has worked for Obama.
Exactly. ISIS is nothing more than the next incarnation of al-Qaeda, which was the incarnation
of the old Muslim Brotherhood, which has been under the
control of the CIA since the 1950s. And Obama's got the Muslim Brotherhood all through Washington
right now. Well, that's why the evidence, the fact that he won't wear jewelry during Ramadan,
and the fact that he won't travel with his dog, and the fact that he has been nothing but conciliatory towards the Muslims,
I think Obama has pretty well proven himself to be certainly well-meaning towards the Muslims,
if not a closet Muslim himself.
And yet the news media, which you accurately called the corporate advertising delivery system, they have worked overtime to protect him, to cover up all these things, to smear, go after anybody who dares to suggest that Barack Obama is a Muslim.
Yeah, even though Obama himself in his book, Dreams of My Father, wrote that if the going gets tough, I will side with
the Muslims. Okay, so he, long ago, he pointed out where his loyalties lie. Hey, did you see
the photograph yesterday of Barack Obama with Pope Francis? This has happened to Obama so many times. I've lost count of how many times a photograph has been taken of him that makes him appear like a devil.
Oh.
Did you see this?
There's something in the background.
The horns.
There were horns.
Yeah, he's got two horns.
He's standing beside the pope, and he's got two horns.
I mean, this is not
coincidence. I mean, it's like the good Lord just keeps showing us, this man's a devil. Why are you
having trouble with this? Well, now that, you know, you could always write that off to just the
coincidental taking of a picture with something behind him that may look like horns, but the one that's not incidental was
the photograph of him meeting with the African leaders. And he's given the one-fingered jihadist
salute, where you stick your thumb and your index finger up in the air. Okay. And he's given them
that sign as he walks by. And, you know, this is what all the ISIS and all the militant Muslims, that's their sign for jihadism.
Now, here's the thing.
Somebody might say, well, he just didn't understand what he was doing.
But I'm sorry.
I think he understood exactly what he was doing because when you're president of the United States
and you go somewhere and you do anything,
there are literally dozens of people around to tell you the protocols, what you do and what you don't do.
And I'm sure that at least they should have said, don't stick your index finger in the air because that's the sign of the militant ISIS jihadist.
And yet there he goes.
This is the same guy that in 2008, talking to a New York Times reporter, said the Islamic
prayer call in the morning was the sweetest sound he ever heard. And then he recited it
in perfect Arabic. So don't tell me he doesn't know what that sign with his finger meant.
Well, you know, I've seen his school records from Occidental College,
and they had him down as a foreign exchange student from Indonesia, and they gave his religion as Muslim.
That's right.
So, you know, it sits there.
But like you said, unfortunately, we have a media that's under the same control of the same multinational corporations and corporate owners that are trying to kill us.
And they're trying to change the entire complexity of the United States' culture and political structure.
Jim, we've only got about three minutes remaining.
What do you think the game plan in the Middle East is? I mean, the United States and the West, we've been attacking nation after
nation. We've destroyed Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, and so forth. What is the game plan?
Well, I think basically what's going on is that we are the muscle for Israel. If you go back to the 9-11 attacks and the
information that is now becoming more and more obvious, the art student scandal where they threw
400 Israeli agents, including some demolition experts, out of the country in the summer of
2003, and they'd all been in the same places as these named 9-11 hijackers.
And if you really back off and think about it, the one country that benefited from 9-11 was Israel.
And, of course, I'm not talking about all the Israelis. It's the same as talking about the
United States. The people of the United States are good people. It's the leadership that
we have to worry about, and it's the same thing in Israel. It's not the Israelis. It's their
government. All right. I've got one minute, one more question. Recently, there were new documents,
or I should say documents were newly released pertaining to the JFK assassination.
These pertain to Lee Harvey Oswald, which showed that he went to Cuba and other places seeking entry to the Soviet Union.
You're an expert on the JFK assassination.
What do you make of those documents?
Well, I think that's disinformation.
For one thing, it's a huge
question mark as to did he actually even go to Mexico City? And if he did, did he try to go
somewhere else? There are reports of Oswald being seen in the United States. At the same time,
they said he was in Mexico. The picture that they presented showing a man outside the Russian embassy
is not Lee Harvey Oswald.
And it's just you have to understand what really happened in the Kennedy assassination.
And I guess the trick, the revelation there is that a very prominent doctor and x-ray radiologist has now shown that the official x-rays
of the Kennedy autopsy have been doctored and are phony to indicate this 6.5 millimeter
rifle bullet hole there. And this has been confirmed by Gerald Custer, the man who took the Kennedy X-rays.
He said the ones that were being shown now are not the ones he took.
So here we have fabrication of evidence at the highest level of the federal government in the Kennedy assassination.
And I think that should point out to any thinking person who's really behind it.
All right.
My guest, Jim Mars.
The new book is Population Control,
How Corporate Owners Are Killing Us.
Thank you, Jim.
Thank you, Rick.
Thank you for joining us for today's presentation
with host Rick Wall,
speaking to author of the book,
Population Control, Jim Mars,
from September 2015.
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