TRUNEWS with Rick Wiles - Klaus Schwab's New Dawn of Human Civilization

Episode Date: April 17, 2024

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Welcome to Next Tech News. I'm Paul Benson, your host today. On this podcast, we're going to be covering the latest in artificial intelligence, robotics, quantum computing, transhumanism, and the fourth industrial revolution. Joining me today is Eric Rodriguez and Alexander Vemiro. Gentlemen, how are you doing today? Doing good. How about you? Fine, Paul. doing good how about you fine thing fine paul we're doing great alex so glad to have you back we spent some time in barcelona um alexander is uh the owner of infoweek.cl um in chile it's a magazine um alex tell us a little bit about your history and the magazine. I believe it was really solely focused on technology. Is that correct? Right.

Business and technology, actually. It was started by my dad in 1978. And as time kept rolling, the magazine started as a monthly magazine. And then we changed it to biweekly around 1995. And in 2010, we stopped the paper publication, and we went only online. So at the beginning, the magazine was only available in Chile. And from 2010, we focused on the whole Spanish-speaking Latin America. Of course, with Brazil left out. Amazing.

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day free trial. Check it out. Usually the content will be available there first and then we'll roll it out. So today's show, we are going to be discussing, you guessed it, AI again. Can't get away, there's just too much AI news. We're going to be going through Klaus Schwab's, a few quotes from him, a few from a few months ago, but I wanted to bring them up, and him discussing the new dawn of human civilization. We're going to be discussing brain implants again. We covered Neuralink this week, but there's some more news and a new company that's also involved in brain implants. We want to definitely cover that. We're also going to be talking about biometric payments and driverless cars. So big topics. We're going to get it all into an hour for you guys. We've done

a ton of research bringing you the most interesting articles in the world of technology. We got 50 minutes. Let's go. First article, this is going from Wired. This really stood out to me today, how to stop your data from being used to train AI. So there's a lot of real quotable moments in this article. It's talking about how some companies will let you opt out of allowing your content to be used for generative AI. And this article is really good. I'll actually probably put this in the description if you guys want to check it out, because there's actually a tutorial on how to turn off allowing your content to be used for AI in each commonly used SaaS platform. So software as a service platforms are widely used in business. I know we use them around here. And I was amazed just to see how many well-known businesses were on this list. Companies like Slack. And Slack is a private

messaging business solution. And I can imagine there's a ton of private conversations and file sharing. And it's just amazing to think that all of that your data was being used, but hoping that it would be kept private. But this is something that is, it's almost like the wild west right now. There's not a lot of regulation. Anything that's on the internet has been scraped and then being used for AI being trained. I think the only good news, as far as this being a concern, the only good news that I'm seeing in this is that a lot of these companies are in this race for AI. So they're not sharing data. I'm sure data can be purchased, but it's really like they're building their own AI systems. So it's somewhat sil they're building their own AI systems. So, it's somewhat

siloed right now. And I feel like there's so much competition for everyone to be first in their areas. This information isn't being shared outside. But I found it's very interesting. Some companies won't even allow you to opt out. It's just kind of like a pay-to-play. We've heard this for years, data being the new value or economy, all these free services, you're giving them your data. The next level of this now is, the data that you gave them, or that you're continuing to give them is now being used for AI. So you can, I don't know, today the light bulb turned on for me. It's like, oh my gosh, all of this big data, this is where AI is going to play a big part in it. And it'll probably take the coming weeks and shows to kind of unpack this.

I'm still kind of comprehending what this means. But for example, Grammarly, which is one that I've used, that we use here at the office, they don't even offer an opt-out process if you're a free user. So you have to be a business user, and then you still have to know to go into the settings and turn it off. So they really don't want you to know how to turn it off, but they give you the ability to do that. And I mean, the large services like Facebook, Google, all that, forget it. Their privacy policies, it's already baked in. All this mass data is going into AI.

So what's your guys' take on this and any thoughts you want to add to this before we move on? Yes. And remember, Paul, those switches you just mentioned to turn it off. I mean, I don't trust them. I mean, are you sure you're turning them off? I don't. I don't know. My

thought was, you know, there was an argument, you know, that people have years ago, you know, the fact an argument, you know, that people have years ago. We know the fact that, you know, Facebook is using my information to do whatever they want with it. And, you know, the response was, well, you know, you're accessing our platform for free. Therefore, we get to keep your information. Then there's the argument, the whole thing about, well, let's make it so it's paid. And therefore, maybe there's less, you know,

using your data or whatever. But in the reality, like, you know, we're, we're, we are the guinea pigs for these companies. You know, even I was surprised this article to see that there are so many paid platforms that are also absorbing your data. i shouldn't be too shocked but you know i could see when a free platform giving you access to their tools using your data using your your prompts whatever it may be to um make their system better i get that to me that makes sense and i think it's kind of a really a fair exchange if you think about it because they're giving you for free but if you're paying for i feel like there should be some type of level of lockout to the ability to access company files company messages and things like that and so it's very interesting to see kind of like what you said paul you know these companies are racing

to get as much data as possible to make their ai the king in the AI space. And, you know, I was kind of shocked as well to see that a lot of these companies, they make it hard to turn off the AI. And like you said, Alex, are they really turning it off? Or is there a level of turning off where they're not maybe scraping PDF files you you upload but they're still keeping the the text that you're entering in or something i don't know but it is something you know for all of us to be you know mindful of that especially when it comes to free services they're not really free and everybody should be be very aware aware of that you not giving, you're not accessing a free service. You are paying it with your photos, with your videos, with your text, whatever it may be.

So if that's news to you, you're going to be in for a world of shock when it comes to more AI news that we bring your way. I know. I know. Every time I read articles like this, I'm just like, oh, cause you tend to get comfortable with the technology you're around. And I mean, in our line of work, we're forced to use it. You know, we use it every day. Um, and yeah, paid services, there's a certain level of like, you just assume that it's private. Um, and that's not to say that your private information isn't going to be blasted out and accessible to anyone that uses AI. That's not really what this is

about. But it is being used to train AI. And what that even means, again, it's going to take days for us to kind of unpack it. I'm still wrapping my mind around it. There's a quote in this article, before we move on, talking about how companies are actually pretty secretive about what they've actually scraped, purchased, or used to train their systems. And it says here, we honestly don't know that much. A researcher who focuses on AI privacy at the University of Washington, I'm not even going to try to pronounce his name. He said, in general, everything is a very black box. So companies are very secretive about this. And yesterday we were talking about how Google's blocking ChatGPT from using YouTube. And it like, there's this race and all these secretive practices happening where they're, they're using data that they don't necessarily have,

um, you know, the rights to, but they're using it secretively. And it'll be interesting to see how this unfolds and what kind of, of laws, privacy laws are being, uh, broken and what kind of laws, privacy laws, are being broken and what kind of lawsuits are going to happen on the other end of this because I see this thing just spinning up like a turbocharger and it's getting faster and faster, and I feel like there's definitely going to be mistakes that are made. For sure. All right, moving on.

Number two here. Before we move on, I will say an advice, Paul, for people. You know, all these AI, when they tell us or they ask us, when we, you know, ask a question and we get their reply, at the bottom says,

thumbs up or thumbs down, you know? Is the answer good or bad for you? And I will advise people, don't answer them. Don't give them feedback, you know? Especially when the answer is wrong, you know? Don't correct them. Don't give them more information, more brain power, you know, back. Especially when the answer is bad, is incorrect.

Because you are correcting, you are improving their AI for free, you know. So my advice will be don't answer when the AI asks you to give them feedback. Right. That makes sense. Totally. I agree. All right. Moving on. AI is set to impact 60% of jobs in the developed economies. So this is coming from the International Monetary Fund. This new report finding that higher skilled jobs would likely face a higher impact from artificial intelligence. And this can present both challenges and opportunities. So, I mean, this goes right along the lines of what we've been saying here, Eric. And there's a number of quotes that we'll go through today. We've been hearing them at conferences. We'll probably be hearing them at the conference we're going to this weekend to NIB, the National Association of Broadcasters. There's a quote here. I'll read it. Your job may disappear altogether, not good, or artificial intelligence may enhance your job. So you actually will become more productive and your income income level may go up and the more you have higher

skilled jobs the higher the impact and that was from imf managing director cristalina georgia so um also goes on to talk about how this doesn't really impact developing worlds. Very interesting. Actually benefits them, if I read this correctly, right? Yes. Yeah, it doesn't. So they're seeing in developing worlds that this could be actually a way for them to bring revenue into their local city, their region, country. And so, you know, it's another one of those, you know, it's a good and a bad, you know, for like it says here, you know, you can potentially lose your job due to the AI, especially if you're not willing to jump in to learn how to use AI.

And whereas, you know, we talked about before about, you know, the creativity, you know, you're not, some of these AI tools aren't allowing you to use your creative mind that God has given you. But in some cases, you know, someone might be creative, but they may not know how to get that creative idea out. You know, so for example, let's say for me, I don't know how to make an app. I'm not a developer. I'm not a coder. But now I have tools that can help me along that process. And so I can go to Paul and go to Alex and say, hey, you know, I have this idea. You want to help me?

And we all say, we don't have to make an app. But now we can thanks to these AI tools that can kind of help start that process where, you know, as we see here in developing worlds, it says, you know, 40% of jobs emerging in markets set to be impacted in 20, 26% of jobs in low income countries. So, you know, once again, it's, it's going to be a toss up. Are you going to participate or are you not? And where are you going to be left behind in this AI race? So on that topic, perfect transition to the next item here. Klaus Schwab, he is saying humans who refuse to merge with AI will soon become extinct. It's not very subtle.

I wish you would do this this whole article session in claude schwab's voice if i would have practiced it maybe but i'm not okay maybe next time yeah yeah seriously you will have nothing and you will be happy destroyed yeah yeah very ominous right um so yeah world economic forum founder claude schwab's warning that humans who refuse to merge Yeah, very ominous, right? So, yeah, World Economic Forum founder, Klaus Schwab, warning that humans who refuse to merge with AI will soon find they have no place in society. I mean, that's so intense. And it's not true, right?

But on one hand, if they continue on the pace that they're moving and you can kind of see the tentacles spreading, and they really do have connections into so many industries. So, you know, I think this is, it's worth talking about quotes from this article. It's talking about the deepest needs and aspirations of humanity will be harmonized with technology such as AI robots, the Internet of Things, 3D printing, genetic engineering, quantum computing, and more, according to the AI chat system. questioned chat GPT about the next wave of human evolution and what it would look like and concluded that a new dawn of human civilization approaches. So this is something that is really interesting. And admittedly, when chat GPT first came out, I stayed up late and I

had a conversation with AI asking it questions like this, like big questions. Like, what do you, you know, cheesy questions. Like, what do you think the future, you know, are you going to take over the human race, all this stuff. And it's interesting to see what the response is in it. Every time chat GPT comes out with a new version, the responses are going to get more and more interesting. So this is, he is speaking at the 2024 World Government Summit. Schwab declared that humanity is transitioning into a new era where humankind will transition into the intelligent age. I believe we have a clip. Let's go ahead and listen to some of it.

And when I was speaking here seven years ago, after having written a book about the fourth industrial revolution, I showed how this revolution will change how we live, how we act, how we communicate, how we produce, and how we consume. Now, we are speaking not just about the fourth industrial revolution. We are speaking about the transition of humankind into a new era, which is not just characterized by technological change, a new era where humankind will enjoy many more opportunities and possibilities. It's a transition from the, we first had the transition about a hundred years ago from

the agricultural society to the industrial society, but today we speak about the transition into what I would call the intelligent age. And I did something maybe unusual. I took ChatGPT and I had a long discussion with ChatGPT, with my pot, if I may say so, to see how this new era will will look like. And finally, I had about 20 pages of text, and I asked JGPT, summarize the text and tell me now, based on our discussion, how will the new era, the intelligent era, look like?

And I read you the text. Envisioning a future propelled by the technologies of the fourth industrial revolution, we see a new dawn of human civilization, one that harmonizes technology with the deepest needs and aspirations of humanity. I think that's probably pretty good. So, you know, Klaus Schwab, every time he visits these summits,

it's always interesting to hear what he has to say. And I actually have a couple of things I wanted to also run through. Other points he's been in the news talking about he's been pushing to uh pushing a new technology that can replicate a person's brain so they can quote die these these headlines are ridiculous that's crazy um but uh yeah he he's so this is this is a new tech that is going to allow human beings – allegedly allow human beings to be replaced by machines. There are some just – I mean, there's some sentences in this article I had to read a couple of times, to be honest. A person's brain can now be replicated using an algorithm so that the person's physical body can, quote, die, and then they can live on as AI, as artificial intelligence. So Schwab is saying that this technology means a person's body will be replaced by an avatar

so they can live in the so-called metaverse instead of the real world. While addressing fellow globalists, Schwab also noted that uh the tech will be necessary for the public good after his great reset agenda has been rolled out for the public good how how is that I just see like there's some countries that have that whole assisted suicide law or that whatever you want to call it I just I wonder if you're to start seeing this technology coupled with those type of laws or as considered a feature or an upgrade of some kind and for people who fall in line with this whole idea of uh I don't know never this this is just crazy and i my mind's going to like you have elon in neural link implanting something into someone's brain to help them

and then you have plow schwab wanting to kill them off but then also harvest their brain basically right and you know i feel like it's a part of this is like reducing the carbon footprint, right? If you don't have to go drive to work, you can just live in the metaverse and do whatever you want, do your shopping, join meetings. Um, you don't have to leave your home. Um, it's certainly interesting. Uh, but this is, so this is talking about he also goes into kind of how when someone dies, essentially a version of them will live on. So they're working on. And, you know, the metaverse is just so cheesy to me. Like, I just I can't see myself sitting around wanting to walk around in a virtual environment.

It doesn't look real. It's all, you know, it's not attractive to me to go into those experiences just because the virtual technology isn't there yet. But once it's there, and probably to younger generations, it's going to be even more, there's going to be more of a draw to it. Right. And, um, and I mean, this, this guy's at the top of all this. So this whole, this is kind of the ultimate, it's an interesting take on transhumanism, but being able to upload the entire contents of your mind into an ai and essentially have a version of you that will live on forever and potentially making decisions forever can an ai be ceo or owner of a company even after someone's dead and gone i mean this is like i don't know what this

world's gonna look like um yeah because if ai is constantly learning and growing and adapting it's like your dead self could be a better version of your alive self potentially with the advancements of technology and how much data is being pushed through and the advancement of AI. And with your voice. Remember, they got your voice. So your relatives could talk to your dead self. Yeah. Imagine that.

I mean, that part's kind of cool, but yeah, it's weird. Let's listen to just a minute of Klaus speak about this. You have the chance to look forward to a career of 50 years. In my own opinion, yeah. Maybe, maybe more. You will get some injections and some and so on and And then don't forget your your avatar will continue to live so And your your brain will be replicated see through artificial intelligence and algorithm

So we don't know. But at least 50 years. Pretty interesting. What do you think the chances are that he's currently participating in some of this stuff? Well, I think he is. I think he is in some way. I don't know exactly what he's talking

about in this next video. He talks about how he's experimented with the metaverse let's go ahead and listen to it journey we may have seen the first applications I use an avatar, but I got so fast accustomed to it, so I'm fascinated by the capabilities which we have. And I know it will take some time, but for me, this is the next phase, the next big phase of development in the virtual world. And we are very proud that together with our partners, we can work on making the first, on creating the first use of this technology for the public good. Klaus, thank you very much. Julie, I mean, Accenture are already using the metaverse on quite a massive scale internally. Can you talk a little bit about your engagement with this project

and also about the wider applications for the metaverse in business? Great. Well, let's start with business, and we'll start with the one number, $1 trillion. So that is what we estimate by 2025 the metaverse will influence in revenue in the private sector. And that really is going to cross three big areas. So it's super simple, consumer, enterprise, and industrial. I've heard that $1 trillion number quite a few times. I'd love to talk about that. And I mean, similar for AI.

I definitely believe AI will bring in billions of dollars. It is going to be everywhere. And there are tremendous business opportunities surrounding AI. If you just have an idea of something that isn't out there right now and there's thousands of potential uses for it, if you can be first to market with an idea using AI, it's going to make money right now. It's just the truth. Metaverse? Man, I don't know. I don't get it. Metaverse is just, I don't know if it's just me personally. It's certainly lost a lot of momentum recently.

But this is one that stands out to me uh you know being able to go in the metaverse and talk to my father that has passed on hypothetically i'm just throwing this out that's kind of cool um but uh if that would involve him uploading the contents of his brain i mean mean, this is where it gets weird. It's like, OK, you have to cross this line with this level of technology. And it very quickly becomes uncomfortable, right? Anti-creation. You're tinkering with God's universe in a way.

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do that, that would be a huge help. We really appreciate it. All right, back to the show. Moving on to brain implants. We got to fly through this. We got about 24 minutes left here. So this one's out of Reuters. Exclusive Synchron arrival to Musk's Neuralink readies a large-scale brain implant trial. So, yeah, there's another huge company out there,

and they're saying that they are on the edge as well as far as – so they're aiming to work with patients who are paralyzed due to neural diseases like ALS and strokes. But they also say that they're even closer and further along in some of their technology as far as the ability to convert brainwaves and brain information and going from mind to text. So being able to think about what I would want to type and having it all just appear on a screen. Um, this is like borderline digital telepathy and that's actually kind of admitted um and it's just incredible um i remember when uh neuro link first put out those videos of the did you see the videos eric's of the pigs walking

around and it had like an audio i didn't see those visual i'll have to get that clip for the next we'll play it on the next podcast okay but it had this pig that was like walking around and it would sniff different food and it would make a different sound every time we went to a different and it kind of looked like the matrix as this pig was walking around and checking out different different types of food it's it's crazy this technology is is some of the craziest stuff I've ever seen. Um, and Neuralink's also in the news talking about how their brain chip may treat conditions like morbid obesity. Um, I, I was like, what is this? Cause this kind of seems like you know you read i read articles like this and i think are are they trying to well first off they're playing with um you know pulling on heartstrings

saying you know don't you want to yeah you know help quadriplegics like they have no hope. And yeah, I couldn't sit here and, you know, you have this morality issue with a brain implant and concerns, safety concerns, so many concerns, right? But then you have people that would need to leverage technology, um, to help themselves just get along with life. You know, I was in a major car accident a couple of years ago. Um, and I deal with back pain every day from that. And if I would have lost a limb, you know, you have to, you don't know what you're, what you would do if you're in that situation. And, and, um, it's interesting just to it's an interesting conversation right um and i'll let you the audience kind of make your determination of where where you sit on this yeah i want so you had mentioned i don't know if in a previous podcast or an offline conversation

about the whole idea of neural link or even similar companies being able to download um right upload and download so are they going are they implying that there's a possibility that neural link could potentially do like i'll call it a software update that injects something into the person's brain that will then basically help them to all of a sudden become more health conscious well that's what that's what this is alluding to it has to be i mean yeah because i've with neural link in this technology in my mind i always think you know someone that can't move their hands one day, um, as this technology advances, they could get, you know, a robotic hand replacement, arm replacement, and a Neuralink,

and then be able to have motor skills and be able to move their hand around. That's like the first use case that I just think it doesn't sound bad, right? If that was it, if that was the end of the you know that's what we're trying to achieve and accomplish i mean okay i mean that's that's interesting that's very futuristic and all that stuff but yeah with this solving someone with obesity problems you're talking about changing the way someone's thinking right this has to that has to be what it is um if if you're you're battling addiction or um you know a certain uh bad habit like can you are they are they gonna eventually state that you know you're able to tweak these problems and get some kind of instant gratification.

This is scary stuff, man. I mean, this can't be leading anywhere good. I'm sure there's going to be benefits and I'm sure people that are waiting on this kind of technology that are living in very challenging lives. Like, I get it. I completely understand and have compassion for those people. But there's just, there's a lot to consider with these huge leaps in technological advances. So, yeah. What do we know what they are uploading they are fixing the problem of

obesity but maybe they are also uploading something else right i know it i know it and and in this so this last um this last article uh moving on to number eight, Elon Musk says that the human brain has limits but is chasing immortality with Neuralink. So this is along the same lines of what Klaus Schwab was talking about. And this article, it covers the first human trial and all the stuff that we've, we've covered this week, but, um, brain implants being definitely possible. This is, this is another, just another level, right? This is mind blowing literally. Um, so the reality of mind uploading, mind uploading a new term. So, uh, this is, I I guess back from 2019 talking about a digital afterlife that will exist eventually but relies on the creation of technology that's not here yet the first

challenge would be to build an artificial brain second challenge involves the complete scanning of an individual's biological brain including a measurement of how exactly the brain's neurons are connected. And then this scan would then be copied into an artificial brain. So now we're talking about mind uploading and then possibly waiting for technology to be available where someone could be essentially resurrected into a, I don't know, what are we talking about? Human cyborg with an artificial brain. I don't even know,

but, um, obviously this is pretty far out into the future. Um, but this is, this reality is stranger than fiction right now. all right, let's move on. We got about 16 minutes left.

Biometric payments. So I wanted to touch on this. Amazon Fresh has done some interesting, they brought some interesting technology in with Amazon One. So Alex, why don't you tell us a little bit about this and then we will watch a video where it's going to actually go through what an Amazon Fresh location looks like. Yeah, back in 2020, in September, actually, Amazon started or launched this new service called Just Walk Out.

And there are stores called Amazon Go and Amazon Fresh in the U.S. and also in the UK. And now Amazon is having second thoughts, you know, kind of strange, you know, because they started full head with this technology, which is palm reading biometric identification system, you know. You pay actually with your hand, okay, you present your hand and with that you You pay whatever you buy in these stores, you know grocery stores mainly So but like I said, they launched the service in 2020 but now this article it's explained that

Amazon is having second thoughts because it's stopping the service, the service of paying with your palm, you know. And why? Well, there are many reasons. The article goes on and says the technology has been plugged with issues from its launch. Most notably, Just Walkout merely presents the illusion of automation, with Amazon showing off about the generative AI and the like. Here's where the smoke and mirrors come in. While the stores have no actual cashiers,

there are reportedly over 1,000 real people in India scanning the cameras' feeds to ensure accurate checkouts. Oh, wow. Now, to be fair with Amazon, they said that the tech has been continuing to scale while reducing the number of humans reviews year by year. So I guess now they have a thousand. And when they started, maybe they were five thousand. I don't know.

Two years ago or four years ago. That's interesting. It's also incredibly expensive. That another issue you know yeah so it's all centralized around so when you go there you actually have to have your palm scanned and that's tied to your amazon account i'm assuming yes okay let's let's watch a quick video um this is someone actually going into an Amazon Fresh store. I want to see what this actually looks like. So I was in London a few days ago and I saw something that I've never seen before, but I've been thinking about it ever since. It's kind of bothering me. Have you guys seen these new stores that Amazon is building? There's no cashiers, no checkout area,

no cash registers. You just scan your Amazon app, walk in, take anything you want, walk out, and your Amazon account is automatically charged and a receipt is sent to you by email. I'm honestly not sure what to think about this. On the one hand, it is very convenient, even kind of cool. On the other hand, it feels like the next level of surveillance. It feels kind of scary to be normalizing this, and it is going to be normalized. This is the future of grocery shopping and probably all shopping, and I'll tell you why. Walmart, for example, says that they lose about $3 billion a year from theft, but it's basically impossible to steal from a store like this. You can go ahead and try, take anything you want, stick it in your pocket

and walk out. You're still going to be charged. You can't even get into the store without scanning your app. They know who you are the moment you walk through the door and they've access to your credit card. This means that Amazon stores will automatically be more profitable and that will force all the other stores to either drop their prices to compete or adopt the same model. And I suspect they'll do the latter. So imagine that in the not too distant future, shopping as a whole is going to be basically automated surveillance. Interesting as well that the book of Revelation says that there's going to be a time when you won't be able to buy or sell without a particular mark. You can really see how something like that is possible now. You can't just walk into a store like this and try to buy something with cash. It's not even that they won't let you use cash. You just can't. It's

impossible. So again, it's convenient, but I think kind of scary. What do you guys think? Well, what a perfect video for this podcast. Yeah, that is the question. Seems interesting. Very scary stuff. And, Paul, there are also some major privacy concerns here also. Okay. Remember those cameras and sensors? Well, they can be used to collect biometric information as people shop. So this goes beyond Amazon's small scanning tech as the cameras and sensors measure the shape

and size of each customer body for identification and tracking purposes. Yeah. And I think, I think with the tail end of that video was was right on i mean i think right now if i read before it felt like you can either use your debit card uh he also referenced you can use the app and then there's the hand aspect to this so there's there's many ways different levels there are different ways you can go through this process i think the end game is to where it's just solely the palm. And I, I've been getting, as I'm watching this and hear you talk, I'm just wondering is, is, you know, are they going to tweak the technology? Are they pulling back right now to regroup in order to refine and enhance the technology to reduce from a thousand people to,

to being less and to make it more streamlined and then reintroduce it in a more streamlined manner to accept so that way society will accept it because you know from a convenience standpoint it sounds amazing you walk in you're not dealing with cashiers you're not dealing with you know problems. I know here at my local grocery store, I walk in there a day and it's just empty spots everywhere because they have bad accounts and their inventory is way off because of that. Well, in this aspect, it should be right every single time

because your sensors, your QR codes or whatever it is gonna be, it's gonna be moving all day long with no interference of human beings to an extent. I just think it's this, they're just pulling back right now. They're going to fix the tech and then they're going to roll it out in a different way to where it's going to be more streamlined and more accepted

here in the near future. That that's my guess. And you just know, you know, that video touched on lowering prices, lowering the cost of having a store like that. And then it will force other people to do the same thing. I mean, this definitely, I could see this snowballing and becoming normal. And I mean, even now after COVID, you have everyone ordering everything from their phone anyway. um everything has changed and will continue to

change and get stranger um i want to touch on the uh the 10 cent article um this this isn't just in grocery stores so this is like a there's a metro there's a story about a metro passenger that they're able to essentially weigh wave their hand and pay to get on. And there's also some security concerns I want to run through with this. Alex, anything you want to add here on the Palm-based payment system in China? Well, it's Tencent behind it, the company Tencent, which is the owner of WeChat. So like Amazon, users have to use their account, the WeChat account, to pay for the bills. I mean, when they go to the subway. Right. And this is a whole other level also of control when it comes to your vaccine and your social credit score it's all tied to

your identity your ability to travel to go from place to place it's now tied to your identity um yeah and and the new payment method you know paul drew a lot of heated discussions on social media in china as many have grown increasingly privacy-conscious in a country where biometric data theft is common currency, and facial recognition payments have been available for years. But the theft, the stealing of facial recognition data and also biometric data is very common in China.

Right. And also moving to number 12, there's a couple of articles here that talk about privacy concerns and security concerns with biometric data like this. AI has been introduced. Previously, we've covered deep fakes before and how that's been used to steal money. So this is essentially saying that AI could be used to create fake versions of your voice, your face, your hand, ultimately secure, and it's just becoming closer and closer to the human body to having a chip implanted. You know, that seems like the, the line that they're, they're wanting to cross, you're already getting ready to scan your palms. It's, it's moving that direction. And in 13, this interesting article, OpenAI is talking about that it's working on an AI that mimics the human voice. So you're able to essentially very easily create an AI-generated version of your voice and then be able to have it say or do anything. That's really cool.

It comes in handy. We have some projects here we're using this kind of technology for. But the ability for someone to essentially gather a collection of recordings, and this really would be pertinent for someone that does a podcast or has a certain level of content that's out there. There's a ton of recordings of your voice. So someone could very easily create an AI version of someone and then call somebody or do something that would lead to stealing their identity. So this is the kind of theft that we're going to be encountering. Wow, we got five minutes.

Alex, do you want to get into self-driving cars a little bit? I know some of it. Yeah, let's do it. Some of these articles are very interesting. Self-driving semi-trucks are coming to America's highways. So I've seen the pictures of these things with Tesla. I've yet to see one going down the road. That, I mean, when I first read that a couple of years ago,

I just thought I couldn't imagine driving down a highway, looking to my right and seeing a semi-truck with a load and hauling, and there's no driver. So tell us a little bit about what you learned with the self-driving cars today. Well, no driver, not actually. There is a driver in the cabin, okay, if something goes wrong.

So one update, yeah, one update there. But at the end of this year, they wanna go 100% driverless. Okay? And there are major concerns about that because, you know, unemployment will rise and so forth. So what the article is saying that the self-driving semi-trucks are coming. You cannot stop them. But the truckers, you know, they wouldn't be without a job.

That's the main concern that the article is talking about. Right now, you can see the trucks driving between Dallas and Houston in Texas, you know. And the article is saying that in Texas, by the end of the year, the trucks, like I said, will be 100% driverless. I remember having a conversation with an employee we used to work with here, and he was saying that if the truckers could ever come together, centralize or unionize, something like that, and we saw it in Canada and with and with with the uh the riots and everything truckers have an amazing control and they they can shut systems down pretty easily and i find it interesting that this is one of the areas that they're looking to automate um

you know uh you got truckers driving across the country at night pushing their you know you got truckers driving across the country at night pushing their you know everything's being pushed and I can see this is like the next level of automation I think yesterday we were talking about deliveries with Amazon going through drones so I don't know how long it's going to be. Any ideas how long this is going to take? I mean, are we talking maybe I really wonder what the world's going to look like in 10, 15 years. Are we is it going to be normal just to hear drones just whizzing by on any given street delivering Amazon packages, driverless cars?

You know, this is, we heard about this. I probably heard about it maybe five years ago. Like I could just be able to summon a vehicle, have it drive up, come pick me up. I mean, this is probably a reality that we're going to be, we're going to see in our lifetime. What do you guys think? Absolutely.

I mean, it's like we talked about yesterday you know how quickly you know just chat gpt has gone from version one to now we're talking about version five in just a matter of under two years um the idea of the self-driving semis and all that um yeah i'm with you paul it's like that's just a crazy idea it's kind of cool you know just to see that technology put to use and how it's able to to do those things but from a large scale standpoint you know yeah it's going to drastically impact real people's lives and in the economy in a way and it's gonna it's gonna be a good and bad once again it's gonna impact those who are already in this space but at the same time it's you know from

efficiency standpoint if you know if we run a a large business and we're shipping products across the united states the efficiency is probably going to be increased because once again you're not having to deal with things that happen in um you know with with people involved and so um you know i i'm definitely not a proponent of you know yeah let's go all full self-driving cars i love the technology behind it but yeah i am concerned about the impact it's going to make on real people. I'm thinking about someone at my church who's a truck driver and how this could impact him and his family here in the next, say, two to three years. I know. It's crazy. Hey, we got about 15 seconds left. I just want to thank you guys so much for joining us today. Big thank you to Alex and Eric for joining me today.

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