TRUNEWS with Rick Wiles - Larry Grathwohl: The Weather Underground, Bill Ayers & Barack Obama
Episode Date: August 22, 2023On today's TruNews, we continue our classic investigation into Barry Soetoro, commonly known as Barack Hussein Obama. Rick Wiles has a fascinating conversation with Larry Grathwohl, former infiltrator... of the terrorist group the Weather Underground. In today’s interview, Larry talks to Rick Wiles about his involvement in the Weather Underground, building bombs and plotting terrorist attacks with Barack Obama and Bill Ayers. Rick Wiles, Doc Burkhart. Airdate 8/22/23You can partner with us by visiting TruNews.com/donate, calling 1-800-576-2116, or by mail at PO Box 690069 Vero Beach, FL 32969.It’s the Final Day! The day Jesus Christ bursts into our dimension of time, space, and matter. Now available in eBook and audio formats! Order Final Day from Amazon today! https://www.amazon.com/Final-Day-Characteristics-Second-Coming/dp/0578260816/Apple users, you can download the audio version on Apple Books!https://books.apple.com/us/audiobook/final-day-10-characteristics-of-the-second-coming/id1687129858Purchase the 4-part DVD set or start streaming Sacrificing Liberty today. https://www.sacrificingliberty.com/watchThe Fauci Elf is a hilarious gift guaranteed to make your friends laugh! Order yours today! https://tru.news/faucielf
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Today, we continue a special series of programs dedicated to some of the most interesting and in-depth interviews
that True News host Rick Wiles has presented over nearly 25 years of broadcasting.
And what makes this week's program stand out?
Well, three little words.
Barack Hussein Obama.
The Obamas are back in our current headlines this week,
what with the mysterious death of their personal chef in three feet of water
near their Martha's Vineyard compound.
And of course, there's that persistent rumor that Michelle Obama
may possibly make a run for the White House.
And with these stories in the news,
Rick felt that this was the perfect time to present some classic episodes of True News
where the focus was on the mysterious man from Chicago himself, Barry Sartoro, also known as Barack Hussein Obama.
Now, in today's classic edition of True News, we'll go back to May 21st, 2012, and Rick's conversation with Larry Grathwaal. Now, Larry Grathwaal was a distinguished Vietnam vet
who in the 1960s contacted the FBI
and offered his services in infiltrating students
for Democratic Society and Bill Ayers
in Bernadine Doran's Weather Underground.
Now, that was no small deal.
It was extremely dangerous.
It was a total self-sacrifice.
It's literally a leap into hell on behalf of his country.
And he risked his life and endured some wretched things that most of us would refuse to do.
And for the good of his country, he became part of an ugly inner circle.
He had to plunge into their very dark side.
Grathwell ultimately blew the whistle on Bill Ayers and Elizabeth Dorn in sworn testimony
in the 1970s and further in his 1976 book, Bringing Down America, an FBI informer with
the Weathermen, plus numerous times since. Now he's testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee
on October 18th, 1974, where he spoke at length and under oath about his relationship with Bill Ayers and
Elizabeth Doran, including how Doran personally, in Grath Wall's words, had to plan, develop,
and carry out the bombing of the Park Police Station in San Francisco.
Now, on today's interview, Larry talks to Rick Wiles about his former involvement in the Weather Underground, building bombs, and plotting terrorist attacks with Bill Ayers and Barack Obama.
Let's listen to this classic edition of True News. that I firmly believe with all my heart that the USA is currently in the throes of a well-planned,
choreographed, and financed communist revolution, something that has been in the making for many
decades. Barack Hussein Obama, aka Barry Sotoro, the Kenyan-born Marxist, was chosen, groomed, educated, financed, favored,
and placed in key positions over time in order to lead the final takeover. When I said those things
in 2007 and 08 and 09, many people thought I was exaggerating things. In fact, some prominent
Washington insiders hung up on me, wouldn't even come on the program if I continued to say such things about Mr. Obama.
Today, only idiots continue to deny the reality of what is happening inside the USA.
The nation has moved into Marxism.
Now, will this communist revolution succeed or will it be stopped in its tracks in the nick of time?
Nobody knows the answer to that question because the future is fluid and we can change it. in the nation will step forward soon and put a stop to Mr. Satoru's reign of terror and the
dismantling of the constitutional republic. The leftist news media, however, continues to cover up
for Mr. Obama and to cover up his radical past. When you research Obama's life, you find one communist
connection after another. Now, two of the most well-known commies linked to Obama are Bill Ayers
and Bernadine Dorn. They led the domestic terrorist group Weather Underground in the 1960s and 70s.
My guest today was an FBI informant who infiltrated the radical group in the 1960s and 70s. My guest today was an FBI informant who infiltrated the radical group
in the 1960s. Mr. Larry Grathwald served in Vietnam in the mid-60s in the Infantry First
Brigade 101st Airborne Division. Many of you have heard his story in the 1982 documentary, No Place to Hide. We've talked about his testimony that was
heard in that documentary. And with the resurgence of interest in his role as an FBI informant in a
group led by people linked to Obama, Mr. Grathwell today maintains a blog called The Truth About the Weather Underground.
The web address for the blog is Larry101stblogspot.com.
Larry 101st.blogspot.com.
Mr. Larry Grathwald, welcome to True News.
Glad to be here. Thanks for having me.
Well, Larry, as I said, many of our listeners already know about you because we've discussed
your past, your role as an FBI informant, and we have played soundbites of your testimony that was
in that 1982 documentary. But since that time, obviously, we have a lot of new listeners who have joined us.
And so we're going to really go into detail about what you heard and saw as an FBI informant. First
of all, tell us how this came about that you were chosen by the FBI for this assignment.
Well, actually, you could say I chose them. I was attending the University
of Cincinnati. I had just been discharged from the Army, and the weathermen were recruiting people
to join their group and to go to Chicago for what they called the national action.
This was a planned attack on the city of Chicago.
And they approached me and asked me, you know, to come to some meetings and to join their
organization. My first reaction was to think, you know, these people are just a bunch of nuts.
You know, having just come out of the Army, it, you know, I know what a real war is, and these people are standing around smoking dope and talking about making a revolution, and you almost want to laugh.
But I went to the Cincinnati Police Department, and they said, well, please go to the meetings they invited you to and let us know what's going on.
And from there I went to the FBI realizing that the group, the Weathermen, was not a local problem.
They weren't centered in Cincinnati.
They were national.
And when I walked into the FBI office, they had my military file.
They knew quite a bit about me, and I think they were a little shocked that I had just walked in and volunteered to do this.
Well, little did I know that it was going to interrupt my college education, that I
would, at the time that the weathermen decided to go underground,
that I would be the only FBI source of information left in the group until the time that my cover was blown in April of 1970.
So, you know, it turned out to be quite an experience.
But it was really almost a fluke, you could say. I realize today how serious
it was. But at the time, I was inclined to dismiss him as being, you know, drug crazed.
That's right. But, you know, for the benefit of our younger listeners who really don't know anything about the Weather Underground,
it was a very radical, very dangerous domestic terrorist group in the late 60s, early 70s, anti-Vietnam War.
But it was really a communist organization. And they committed acts of terrorism.
They set off bombs in the United States. They killed a police officer, Sergeant Brian McDonald.
Yes, absolutely.
And their actual connections to Cuba and to North Vietnam and China
and other communist organizations throughout the world is well documented. And it was the justification
for the FBI to use the non-approved wiretaps and entries seeking intelligence information
on the activities of the weathermen. The laws back then specifically told the FBI simply to stop anyone who was
acting on the behalf of a foreign government.
And you're absolutely right about their activities.
When they went underground, they began what they called strategic sabotage, which was
to blow up as many buildings as possible. I was part of a plan to blow up the Detroit Police Officers Association building
in the 13th Precinct in Detroit, Michigan.
Before that bombing actually took place, the weathermen decided to send me to Madison, Wisconsin.
But the actual bombings that we planned, me and the group that I
was assigned to, took place about a week later than what we had originally planned for it.
Fortunately, the bombs failed to detonate, but they left 13 sticks of dynamite at the
DPOA building, and they left 34 sticks of dynamite at the 13th precinct, at the DPOA building, and they left 34 sticks of dynamite at the 13th
precinct. Now, that bomb was set on a window ledge with fence staples and roofing nails
for shrapnel, and it was set to go off during a shift change, which is the exact same thing they did at the Park Police Station in San Francisco, almost at the exact
same time. Larry, you mentioned a few minutes ago that it was well known that the Weather
Underground had connections to the communists in North Korea, to Cuba, and did you also say the Soviet Union?
Yes, through the Cubans and the DGI.
Yes. Can you take a few minutes and talk about those connections?
Oh, it's interesting. The Vents Ramis Brigade, which, by the way, still exists under the guise of sending people so inclined to go to Cuba and help harvest sugar cane.
But the weathermen used it as a cover for sending people to Cuba for training.
And, of course, when members of the Weather Underground would arrive,
they were taken out of the group and taken off into special camps where the DGI and the KGB would spend time training them
and sabotage and other things.
We also had connections at the Cuban embassies.
So as an example, if a member got lost, misplaced,
he or she could go to the Cuban embassy in Canada or in Mexico
and go in and say that, hey, I'm Larry Delgado.
It didn't matter what first name you used.
The key was the last name, Delgado.
And they would know that you were a lost weatherman
and that they would make arrangements to get you back in touch with them.
I also know that they, the weathermen, Bill Ayers and Naomi Jeffy,
went to Canada and got money from the Cuban embassy
and from the Quebec Liberation Front.
So there was connections between these organizations.
And, of course, you know, when they went to the Eastern Bloc countries,
many of them went to, you know, Poland and to Czechoslovakia,
which were communist Bc countries back then.
And actually, some of them went to North Vietnam and participated in shooting down American jet fighters.
Larry, it's very obvious looking back on the anti-war movement that much of it was communists inspired and financed. That doesn't
mean every person that participated in the marches or anything like that were communists,
but at the top, at the leadership of the anti-war movement, I think it's fairly safe to say most of
them were either communists or communist sympathizers who clearly knew that they were being financed and directed by the Soviet Union in Cuba, North Korea.
Isn't it surreal, just weird, strange that here we are today in 2012 and there is a mysterious man in the White House with no past, but we know that he was connected to this one man, Bill Ayers, who was a leader of this radical communist terrorist group.
Well, I find it very disturbing myself.
I usually ask people, you know, how many ex-domestic terrorists do you know? I happen to know a lot because I was with them,
but the ordinary person doesn't know any. And then you start to look at Barack Obama,
and he's got several, Jeff Jones, Bernadine Dorn, and Bill Ayers. The connection between Ayers, I just recently saw a video that a guy named Joel Gilbert
has produced. It's called Dreams from My Real Father. And in this video, of course, he's claiming that Barack Obama is not even the son of Barack Obama Sr., the Kenyan, but possibly the son of Frank Marshall Davis.
But what else is interesting about this video is the connections it has to the Ayers family, which, according to a mailman who delivered mail at the parents' home.
And he was on our program.
Okay.
And he saw Barack Obama, and Barack Obama identified himself as a foreign exchange student.
Gee, how does that get lost in the media? And just last week, the discovery of the public relations flyer promoting the young Barack Hussein Obama.
Yeah.
You know, from a high-level PR agency that handled him, handled former House Speaker Tip O'Neill and other prominent Washington insiders. And that PR flyer identified Obama as Kenyon Bourne.
Yeah, until they didn't want him to be.
And it's, I mean, the connection goes even further.
Right now, I'm looking at a thing on the Internet, the National Review Online, and there's a story here about the Dorn
Connection and Eric Holder's DOJ funds. Evidently, the Justice Department or some part of it has elected to give her organization a grant in the sum of $400,000.
The Justice Department is giving a $400,000 grant to an organization run by Bernadine Dorn?
Yes. Yes.
So we're financing the takeover of our republic?
Yes, basically. Basically.
I mean, this is nothing new.
You know, Jeff Jones has been involved with the Obama administration through the Apollo Group.
And he's been, you know, helping divvy out funds and working on the, you know, the medical, you know, the health care issues.
And he was one of the founders of the Weathermen.
And then, of course, Bill Ayers, you know, who denies hardly knowing Obama, but yet evidently Obama was getting financial funds and assistance from Tom Ayers, that's Bill's father, over 20 years ago.
So, you know, the conspiracy goes on.
And, you know, I don't believe in coincidence.
You know, if it has webbed feet and walks like a duck and quacks, it's a duck.
That's right.
I mean, if we had a criminal
investigation it'd be very easy to get a conviction. Oh yeah absolutely and and the thing is is that
they got off uh you know for all of their bombings and I mean the bombings are you know I forget how
many there are I'm going to say 40 or 50 that the Weathermen are known to have participated in.
And all of that was dropped because, you know, it was decided that the FBI had gained intelligence information illegally.
In fact, it wasn't.
It was the law at the time. It's just that after the Frank Church Committee met and decided that, you know,
because of Watergate, things had to change, that it was decided that all that intelligence work
that the FBI did prior was now no longer relevant. And there's a picture of Bill Ayers standing on
an American flag with a quotation, guilty as hell, free as a bird, isn't America wonderful?
Now, tell me that's not flaunting it in our face.
Now, you know he was a professor at the University of Illinois, and on his door was a big poster of Che Guevara. So, you know, this is a guy who honestly and truly believed that the
Weathermen were going to succeed in overthrowing the government back in the 60s and the 70s.
Okay, Larry, let's talk about, again, going back to that time when you were an FBI informant,
were you in meetings where Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorn were present? Yes.
How many meetings did you recall? You know, off the top of my head, I couldn't. I mean,
would you say a few, numerous? Numerous. Numerous meetings. Numerous times. Okay,
so you heard them with your own ears? Oh, yes. Yes. I mean, as an example, when we were planning the
bombings in Detroit, Bill Ayers and I sat in the kitchen with him sitting right across from me at
the kitchen table when he said that the bombs needed to be placed at the time that they would
kill the most people. When I pointed out to him that
a restaurant next to the DPOA building would probably suffer more destruction and there'd
be more deaths in that building, his response was, well, sometimes innocent people have to
die in a revolution. So, you know, they're telling us now that they were merely an anti-war group.
Well, that's not true.
And I know it's not true.
But there's also the case of the Pine Street bomb factory.
The FBI found a bomb factory on Pine Street in 1971, I believe.
Max Knoll was one of the FBI agents involved in it.
They found C4 timing devices.
Some of the devices to set these bombs off were voice activated.
Now, you know, you don't...
Wait a minute.
In the early 70s?
Yes.
That's pretty advanced technology for that time.
But consider this. You do not use a voice-activated detonator unless you are going to kill somebody. Right?
Now, keep in mind that Bill and Bernadine swear that the Weathermen were merely an anti-war group.
In the Pine Street apartment, they didn't find any anti-war literature. They found all kinds of books and instructions on how to build bombs and how to place bombs, but they didn't find any
anti-war material whatsoever. So again, it begs the question, doesn't it? How much against the war were they? And then the final question becomes, if it was the war that they were against, then why did they continue placing bombs after the war in Vietnam ended. Larry, was there a period of time where you went from thinking
that these guys like Bill Ayers
were just misguided,
but dangerous,
idolistic people,
young people who wanted to create
a utopian world,
but they were misguided, dangerous,
and then you realized, no, these
guys are hardcore communist revolutionaries.
Was that apparent to you from the beginning?
It was apparent to me from the beginning.
And I'll say this.
There were some people who were part of the group who were truly and indeed motivated by this idealistic conception of a socialist paradise.
I don't believe that such a thing exists, and I think it's illogical.
But there were a few that were so motivated.
Never was Bill and Bernadine motivated that way.
These two were people who were in it. Never was Bill and Bernadine motivated that way.
These two were people who were in it.
You could tell from the beginning for the power and the prestige.
Bill is an especially short individual, so he's got that little man syndrome.
He wants to be the big shot. And whenever he would walk in a room,
he expected everybody to just shut up and listen to him. Of course, Bill always had the ideas,
but he wasn't the guy that was going to place the bomb. As an example, in Detroit,
they were going to give me the bomb and have me carry it into the DPOA building.
You know, I don't know what would have happened if I would have had to have stuck around because I wasn't intending to be walking down the street carrying a bomb.
One other point I'd make, I was at the National Council meeting in Flint, Michigan in December of 1969
when Bernadine Dorn made the speech about Charles Manson. She was glorifying him. And here's a quote.
She said, dig it. Not only did they kill those pigs, she's referring to the Sharon Tate murders,
they shoved a fork in that bitch's stomach and
then sat down and ate their dinner. Now, at the time, Sharon Tate was eight months pregnant,
and it was believed that a fork had been shoved in her stomach. Later on, we found out that that
wasn't the case. But I listened to Bernadine standing on a stage in
front of five or six hundred people make that speech. And then for the rest of the remaining
days, about four or five days, people were dancing around the floor with three fingers held up
to represent the fork that was used to shove and chariotate stomachs.
He's sick.
Yes, I mean, and this is a woman with a law degree.
You know, Bill Ayers at the time just had graduated from Michigan.
He would later on get his master's and his doctorate in education.
But, you know, there was some people who had master's degrees, some people
who had doctorates, and Bernadine had a law degree. Now, so I'm sitting in a room listening
to this, and I'm not listening to, you know, people that have no education and have no sense of right and wrong. You know, these are people from wealthy families,
from upper middle class or upper class backgrounds, and with degrees from some of the
most prestigious universities in the country that are talking about Charles Manson like he's a god.
Larry, was their objective at any time truly to stop the Vietnam War,
or was it always about revolution?
It was always about revolution.
The idea was that, like Che Guevara had said, one, two, three, many Vietnams, they believed through their connections with the North Vietnamese and the Cubans that they could fire up enough
small wars throughout the world that the United States' strength would be sapped and that
they, working on the inside, would be able to bring about the final collapse.
I'm reading a book. It's titled Weatherman by Harold Jacobs.
This is a very old book. It came out in, I think, 1971, I'm going to guess.
And he, you know, it's interesting. It's kind of like a history for me. I had a copy of this book
and I lost it and I'm looking at it now. And, you know, there's an article in here that Bill wrote
about a strategy to win. And he's talking about a strategy to overthrow the government and win the revolution.
And he believes it.
Didn't Ayers write a book, something like The Prairie Fires?
Well, The Prairie Fire was the political statement of the weather underground.
Yes, okay.
While they were still underground.
I've got a copy of that, too.
But it was clearly a communist manifesto for a bloody revolution in the USA.
It starts out, it says this statement is a declaration of war on the United States.
And then later there was a magazine that was published by the Prairie Fire Organizing Committee that was the above-ground support for the Weather Underground, and it was called Osawatomie.
I have several copies of it, too.
And all of it is about, you know, onward to the revolution. It wasn't
until the war ended in 75. And and we start to get into the Reagan years when when the economy
picks up that these people, you know, somewhere along the line decided to change their strategies. And what's interesting is that so many of them went
into education. Bernadine, Bill, Mark Rudd, Hallie Mottinger, and Linda Evans. I could go on
with countless others that they all got into the education field.
And it was the most effective thing that they could do.
Sure.
Because now, 30-some years later, America has been dumbed down.
We have several generations of young people now that accept socialism.
Well, you've got the Occupy Wall Street movement.
And isn't it interesting? Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorn show up at some of these Occupy Wall Street locations, and they'll bring pizza, and they'll talk to them drink their expensive wine and eat their caviar or whatever else it is that they partake in and leave these kids out there in the tents in the snow and the rain and the cold.
There's nothing more disgusting than Marxist hypocrites.
Oh yeah.
I mean it's pathetic.
Okay, so going back to your FBI informant days, when Bill Ayers and Bernadine
Dorn and others were talking about a real, true, bloody revolution in America, let's
talk specifics.
What did they seek to accomplish?
Well, their ultimate goal was to overthrow the government. They were going to replace the
government with what they call the democratic centralist government, which is much like what
they have in Cuba, at least according to the weatherman, that's what they have in Cuba. They estimated that approximately 100 million people would have to be reeducated,
that is, you know, taken into camps, preferably in the southwest,
where they would be indoctrinated into the new order of things. And they also estimated that approximately 25 percent or 25 million people
would be beyond their re-education efforts and would have to be eliminated.
I would have included people like myself in that category. They were prepared to kill 25 million Americans if necessary, if those Americans
refused to accept the revolution? Well, I don't think it was a question of whether they refused
or not. It was, it was going to be, you know, just like the Khmer Rouge did in Cambodia, if they,
you know, decided that, you know, that this 5 million people were not, you know, working up to par, they would just, you know, starve them to death.
And as a matter of fact, you know, that was actually discussed.
You know, the primary means of eliminating people would be working them to death and starving them to death.
Well, we know where they got that idea.
Yeah.
North Korea and Cuba.
Yeah.
And the Soviet Union.
That's right.
The gulags. Sit there in those meetings and hear these people talk about concentration camps, killing resistors, starving millions of Americans to death.
Well, it was like listening to Bernadine Dorn praise Charles Manson.
There's a point at which you're no longer shocked.
It's like, yeah, you know, this fits the pattern.
I tell people today that if I was married to Bernadine Dorn,
I'd sleep in a separate bedroom with the door locked.
Okay?
I think she's probably one of the most vicious women I've ever encountered in my life.
And I mean that sincerely.
I would.
I'd sleep in a locked room.
But they fully expected that there would be resistors to the communist revolution.
Well, that was one of their greatest fears was the counter-revolution, but they felt like that, you know, as soon
as they had seized power, that would be the focus, and that would be what those hundred
million people would be about, is getting control of them and getting them in camps
in the Southwest where they could control them, and that the other masses would go along with the program,
even if they disagreed.
You know, there's a lot of people that you know may disagree with something
but aren't necessarily going to become active against it.
And, you know, the silent majority in the opposite direction, so to speak.
Larry, have you considered the possibility that over decades, not only did these radical communists, American communists infiltrate education, which obviously they did in the news media.
Do you think that they have also buried themselves deep inside government agencies for a special day?
Well, that's certainly a possibility, and it wouldn't surprise me.
It would go along with the other programs that they've been working on through the years.
But I think that they would lean more towards organizing people into groups like they have for the Occupy Wall Street. an example right now they're talking about moving the occupy wall street uh emphasis from wall
street to schools they're going to try taking over schools meaning high schools and colleges
possibly even great great schools but you know we can expect to see a lot more movement this summer in the Occupy movement.
Of course, you said earlier there's no such thing as a coincidence, which I agree.
So the fact that they rolled out their activities for this year, 2012, they rolled it out on May 1st,
which is May Day, the International Day of Communist Solidarity.
Absolutely.
That was not a coincidence.
It was planned. May Day is a holiday for them because they are communists.
They love to use the word progressive when they're out and about talking because they know that in some situations,
they'll get a very negative reaction if they call themselves communists. But keep in mind,
in other areas, when certain groups are together, they're very open about their communist leanings. And, you know, I've
had friends that have attended meetings surreptitiously, and when they come out of them,
they tell me that, you know, communism and, you know, what they intend to do
and how they see the government falling is, you know, it's pretty blatant.
Larry, you served in the U.S. Army.
You put your life on the line in Vietnam to fight communism.
You put your life on the line to be an FBI informant inside this very radical, dangerous group
that had set off, as you say, about 50 bombs, killing a police officer,
killing others. Now here we are in 2012. We have this mysterious man in the White House with no
past. And what we do know about his past all comes back to known communist radicals. And America has gone deeply into a socialistic world with government control
of corporations and banks that take over the health care system. Our economy is crumbling.
We have class warfare. We have a president who is actively promoting class warfare, actively stoking racial
tension. What are your thoughts today? Well, I agree with everything you just said. And I think,
you know, as for me and what I'm trying to do is try to alert people as to what's going on. We've got to get this man out of office,
for one thing. You know, I'm not overjoyed with Mitt Romney, but certainly of the two,
he's the least of our problems. But are you concerned that there's something up ahead that's the next phase of this Obama revolution?
Well, I think that I do have some concerns about what may happen if Obama loses the election.
I find him to be a very arrogant individual. I mean, he's compared himself in his presidency to Abraham Lincoln, and so he obviously has, you know, a very big ego.
And I'm not sure that he would easily accept rejection in November.
You know, the Chicago political system believes that, you know, you never let a crisis go to waste, and to declare martial law could put the election off.
That's right.
I've read articles about that kind of thing actually happening. FEMA has been building so-called camps in the Southwest.
And I've seen a program on TV recently about a federal prison that was built, I believe, in Montana that is empty.
It's a state-of-the-art prison, very large facility, and no one's there.
Oh, they're everywhere.
I've seen them in Florida.
They're everywhere.
What are they for?
Well, obviously they're being held for a future event where they're going to have to house substantial numbers of American citizens.
And then we have the purchase of Homeland Security by Homeland Security, 450 million rounds of hollow point ammo.
Yeah.
I mean, that's enough to shoot every American citizen one and a half times.
Yeah, I know.
I realize that.
And it's, you know, you can look at that and you can become so overwhelmed by it that,
you know, it looks like it's a done deal and that there's nothing we can do.
I, on the other hand, say, okay, make sure that you're ready for any kind of a crisis.
You should have food and water stockpiled to take care of your family. You're not going to
be able to depend upon the police in a crisis. But I'm going to this Juneteenth meeting in Atlanta.
It's the 15th and 16th. And it's, you know, a mixed race organization with an idea of trying to
unify our people rather than divide them, which is, of course, contrary to what,
you know, our beloved president is trying to do. The, come on, Cliff Kincaid's organization,
USA Survival, they have a site there that is about George Soros.
It's called the Soros Files.
So if you go to the usasurvival.org link, you'll see this other link to the George Soros file.
I've never seen a communist revolution anywhere in history that did not end up with a lot of blood.
Oh, yes.
Well, that's what I'm concerned about.
This thing is well underway.
And I've been telling our radio audience since 2007 or 2008, Barack Obama will drive the country to open warfare.
This is his assignment. It is to bring about bloodshed because the only way they rule is in chaos.
Yes, I agree with that.
And I think it's going to be up to certain individuals as to whether or not they're going
to allow the crisis to move
to the level of bloodshed. Remember, the Army, you know, is forbidden under laws of posse comitatus to deal with the civilian population.
And if those generals and people in the Army adhere to that,
then we shouldn't have to worry about them.
And, I mean, there's some police departments right now that are concerned about, you know,
what the Army is doing and preparing for. What I want to say to the top echelon of the U.S. military leadership in the Pentagon is
you men swore an oath to uphold the Constitution.
And you know, you know that the man in the White House is an imposter.
Let's not play this game.
You know he is an imposter. Let's not play this game. You know he is an imposter.
He is not who he says he is. He does not have proof of his identity. Barack Obama,
Barry Sotoro, whatever is his name, could not even get a security clearance to be a janitor
in a federal courthouse, let alone be in the White House. And you men in the Pentagon know this.
And it's time for the men in the Pentagon wearing the uniforms as generals.
It is time for you to do your patriots' duty and put a stop to this nightmare.
And I agree with you. And I'm one of those people that's counting on them
to do exactly that. I think that we have some good men in the military and have had in the past
and have now, just like we've got good men in the FBI. You know, just because Eric Holder is
in charge of the Justice Department does not negate the fact that the FBI agents in that bureau
are dedicated law enforcement agents. That's right. And that may, Larry, that may be what
was going on in Columbia last month with the Secret Service.
Yeah. And that may be what's going on right now with this mysterious case of an FBI agent who's on the run as a fugitive.
There's something very strange about that story.
He was in the vicinity of where Obama was at last week when he was at George Clooney's house in Hollywood. And now this FBI agent who has no past of being a troubled agent suddenly is suicidal, on the run, and hiding.
What does he know?
I didn't know about this.
Yeah.
Boy, check into that one.
That's a strange story out there.
But, you know, again, going back to the military brass in the Pentagon, you men who already know that Obama is a liar and an imposter,
you are carrying out orders of a commander in chief who is a liar and a criminal.
That makes the generals and all the officers below accomplices to his crimes. You are carrying out unlawful orders and you are losing the respect
of the American people. We are losing respect for the military leadership in the Pentagon
because you men will not stand up and do the honorable thing and put a stop to this nightmare
of this usurper in the White House.
Please don't play this game and try to make us believe that there's some type of crazy, radical, delusional birther movement out there.
No, we know that Obama is a communist plant.
You're not going to fool anybody.
And it's time that the men at the top of this country,
as the Supreme Court, in the FBI, in the intelligence agencies, in the Congress, in business, in Wall Street.
It is time you act like a man and put a stop to it, or this is going to have a very ugly ending.
That's what troubles me so much, Larry.
Larry, thank you. I appreciate you being on the
program today. Thank you for joining us for today's presentation, this classic edition of
True News from May 21st, 2012, with former Weather Underground Infiltrator Larry Grathwald.
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