TRUNEWS with Rick Wiles - Mel Gibson: Were the LA Fires Set on Purpose?

Episode Date: January 13, 2025

The National Weather Service is calling it a Particularly Dangerous Situation. Deadly Santa Ana winds that have returned to the Los Angeles region and continue to fan wildfires that have already kille...d 24 people, swept through 40,000 acres, and destroyed over 12,000 homes and buildings. Gusty offshore winds have returned to the region. Coupled with extremely dry weather, conditions are ripe for greater destruction this week. The National Weather Service has only issued a Particularly Dangerous Situation alert five times in the weather service’s history. National Weather Service meteorologist Rose Schoenfield said issuing the warning is one of the loudest ways the service can shout to the public about the danger of the continued extreme fire weather and wind scenario.    Rick Wiles, Doc Burkhart. Airdate 01/13/2025Join the leading community for Conservative Christians! https://www.FaithandValues.comYou can partner with us by visiting TruNews.com, calling 1-800-576-2116, or by mail at PO Box 399 Vero Beach, FL 32961.Get high-quality emergency preparedness food today from American Reserves!https://www.AmericanReserves.com             It’s the Final Day! The day Jesus Christ bursts into our dimension of time, space, and matter. Now available in eBook and audio formats! Order Final Day from Amazon today!https://www.amazon.com/Final-Day-Characteristics-Second-Coming/dp/0578260816/Apple users, you can download the audio version on Apple Books!https://books.apple.com/us/audiobook/final-day-10-characteristics-of-the-second-coming/id1687129858Purchase the 4-part DVD set or start streaming Sacrificing Liberty today.https://www.sacrificingliberty.com/watchThe Fauci Elf is a hilarious gift guaranteed to make your friends laugh! Order yours today!https://tru.news/faucielf

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Starting point is 00:01:06 to fan wildfires that have already killed 24 people, swept through 40,000 acres, and destroyed over 12,000 homes and buildings. Gusty offshore winds have returned to the region, coupled with extremely dry weather conditions. The area is ripe for greater destruction this week. The National Weather Service has only issued a particularly dangerous situation alert five times in the Weather Service's history. National Weather Service meteorologist Rose Schoenfeld said issuing the warning is one of the loudest ways the service can shout to the public about the danger of the continued extreme fire and weather and wind scenario. For Monday, January 13, 2025, let's begin our analysis and commentary of today's national and international news by looking at this article published by Los Angeles TV station KTLA. Another potentially dangerous windstorm headed to Southern California. Yes. So they're reporting right now that forecasters are calling for another potential windstorm
Starting point is 00:02:28 to hit Southern California later this week, creating what officials, as Rick mentioned, are describing as a particularly dangerous situation. Powerful wind gusts locally are expected to be between 45 to 70 miles per hour from early Tuesday morning throughout Wednesday afternoon. That's according to the National Weather Service. And KTLA's Kirk Hawkins said these aren't catastrophic winds like last week, but they're going to be just as significant.
Starting point is 00:02:56 The mountains of San Bernardino County will be looking for 80 to 90 per hour wind gusts in areas to the east of the Cayon Pass during this period of time. And so they're far from out of the woods, no pun intended there, as far as the fires are concerned in Southern California. Of course, Doc, the blame game is underway. Yes. Today, the favorite target is the electrical power company. Right.
Starting point is 00:03:29 So a lot of people are saying they're going to sue the power company, that there were down lines that, you know, sparks from the lines started the fires. Yeah. I heard one report that there's still 100-year-old electrical equipment out on some of the poles in this area. 100 years old? Yes. Is it really? Yeah. So they might actually have a case there, but it's limited to them.
Starting point is 00:03:56 Right. The other thing are the arsonists, the firebugs who have been caught in the act of setting fires. Here's a New York Post suspect arrested with flamethrower. He's an illegal immigrant. A homeless man was tackled and zip-tied by onlookers to say he was trying to start fires with a blowtorch. He's an illegal immigrant who will be protected by california's sanctuary city status unbelievable unbelievable doc but it is california it's california so um the uh the suspect is a mexican national who is in the united states illegally he was chased down and chased and taken
Starting point is 00:04:46 down by residents of woodland hills after they allegedly saw him torching old christmas trees and debris with a flamethrower soon after the massive wildfire began thursday And then he's not the only one. Yes. This is KTLA, Firefighters Catch Man, setting fires in San Gabriel Valley. And we're here, you know, we've got a video of the police arresting a guy who started a fire. What are you doing? I like the caption on X. It said that climate change starts a fire and gets arrested. Yes. Because, of course, the left is going to say, well, it's all, the reason why we're having all these fires is because of climate change. Well, Mr. Change was just taken away.
Starting point is 00:05:41 That's right. But if he's an illegal, nothing will happen. He's in a sanctuary city now nbc news uh interviewed california governor uh gavin newsom and uh we've got a couple outtakes from that interview and in this first one he said, we're going to find out what happened. What happened is you were asleep on the job. That's what happened, yes. No, actually, I think it's worse than that.
Starting point is 00:06:18 I think he made the conditions ripe. He contributed. He contributed to the conditions. And we'll talk about that in a moment let's watch this is a gavin newsom on nbc news you've also called for an independent investigation into the issues around water supply that we've seen what are the questions that you're hoping to answer the same ones you're asking same ones that people when i'm in the streets are asking yelling about what happened what happened to the water system was Was it, and by the way,
Starting point is 00:06:45 was it just overwhelmed that you had so much that was used? We drew it down. Was it pipes? Was it electricity? It was a combination of pipes, electricities, and pumps. What was that drawdown? Impossible because you lost seven plus thousand structures right here anyway, and every single structure we lost had a pipe that was leaking and we lost that water pressure anyway. Did it contribute in any way to our inability to fight the fire or were 99 mile-hour winds determinative and there was really no firefight that could have been more meaningful? So I want to, all of us want to know those answers and I just don't want to wait because people are asking me.
Starting point is 00:07:23 I want to know those facts. I want them objectively determined and that the chips fall where they may. This is not about finger pointing. You say what to people who insist that these independent investigations are calls for them. Are you passing the blame on to other people? How could it be when we're doing an independent investigation and we just want the adjudication of the facts? As I say, it's not about finger pointing. It's about answering the questions you and everybody wants answered. And I think there's a propensity to wait to answer those questions. And people want immediacy.
Starting point is 00:07:51 They want response and responsiveness. And so that's the idea. Ultimately here, does the buck stop with you? I mean, you're governor of California. You might as well be the mayor of California. We're all in this together. We're all better off. We're all better off. We're all better off.
Starting point is 00:08:05 We're all better off. And we're working together to take care of people and to make sure people are supported. We're empathetic. And we're here not just in the immediacy of the crisis, but we're here after the crisis, as opposed to creating a crisis in the middle of this by trying to divide people and play political, take cheap political shots. Do you have faith in Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass? I have absolute faith in our community. I have faith in our leaders. I have the faith
Starting point is 00:08:31 of our capacity to work together. Rick, did he actually answer any one of those questions? He didn't answer anything. I was just checking to make sure I didn't hear it wrong. He's dancing because his political career is ending. Yes. His political career has gone up in flames. Yes. In this case, literally. Can you just imagine political ads in 2028? You know, Governor Newsom, he'll burn down the whole country. I mean, just the video ads with the fires burning.
Starting point is 00:09:06 Think of the memes. His career is over. I don't think he could win reelection in California right now. Right. First of all, the wealthy Democrats who raised, you know, millions of dollars for him. I don't know what hundreds of millions. Their houses burned down. They're homeless.
Starting point is 00:09:27 They're homeless. Why would they raise money for him? So his money base is gone. Hollywood's wiped out. And I don't, you know, we haven't fully comprehended here. Hollywood's been wiped out. The movie industry, television, entertainment industry is decimated. The artists, the actors, the actresses, the producers, the directors, they're homeless.
Starting point is 00:09:59 And many of them are now broke. Yes, because they didn't have insurance. They didn't have insurance. Insurance got canceled months ago. I mean, when you see people like Mel Gibson lost his home. I mean, the list of celebrities who have lost their homes. Paris Hilton lost hers. Hilton. Yes. So Gavin Newsom's career is over. He's not going to take responsibility. So Gavin Newsom's career is over.
Starting point is 00:10:26 He's not going to take responsibility. The left will never take responsibility for the crisis they create. They never do, do they? Never. They never say, you know what, if they would have asked him that question, do you share in the blame for this? He couldn't answer that directly. No, he'd have to look at it in the camera and say, you know, I'm an idiot. I'm an absolute idiot. I've run the state like an idiot. And now a major section of our state has burned down because I'm an idiot. He's not going to say it. No.
Starting point is 00:10:56 But that reporter for NBC News thinks he's wonderful. Well, there's one individual that is calling out Gavin Newsom on that and that's President-elect Donald Trump and he has not withheld his opinion related to everything related to California and the fires. We have another sound bite from that interview with NBC News. NBC won't ask the question but Donald Trump will. Watch this. President-elect Trump has blamed you for this crisis. He called you incompetent. What's your response? Well, I called for him to come out, take a look for
Starting point is 00:11:28 himself. We want to do in the spirit of an open hand, not a closed fist. He's the president-elect. I respect the office. We have a president of the United States that within 36 hours provided a major disaster declaration over a text. We had support from the president of the United States, Joe Biden, with 100% reimbursement. All the resources you could hope for, imagine, constant communication. I'd like to extend that to the president-elect. I don't know what he's referring to when he talks about the Delta smelt and reservoirs. The reservoirs are completely full, the state reservoirs here in Southern California. That mis- and disinformation, I don't think
Starting point is 00:12:03 advantages or aids any of us. Responding to Donald Trump's insults, we would spend another month. I'm very familiar with them. Every elected official that he disagrees with, very familiar with them. We do know, though, from reporting here locally that that one reservoir that serves the Palisades was not full. And that's exactly what triggered my desire to get the investigation to understand what was happening with that local reservoir that was not a state system reservoir, which the president-elect was referring to as it relates to the Delta and somehow connecting the Delta smelt to this fire, which is inexcusable because it's inaccurate, also incomprehensible to anyone that understands water policy in the state. So he's talking about the Palisades City Reservoir.
Starting point is 00:12:48 It was empty. That is true. It was empty. No doubt about that. They drained the reservoir last year. Yes. Looking for a leak. Well, there was a leak.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Yeah. You pulled the plug on it and drained the reservoir. In one of the driest seasons California has ever had. Why would you drain even if it is leaking? You'd want at least full until it was safe. Until the drought is over. Right. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:17 And so the reservoir was empty. So Donald Trump was absolutely right. Of course, Gavin Newsom said, well, it wasn't a state reservoir, it was a city. That's why I'm doing an investigation. I'm going to investigate why they drained the water out of that reservoir. That's a great question. That might be why there was no water in the fire hydrants. It's, you know, if there wasn't so much destruction, it would be comical.
Starting point is 00:13:41 There's nothing funny about this, Dr. No, it's not. But the way that they govern, this is not, my personal view, this is not incompetence. It's not malfeasance. It is deliberate sabotage. And Mel Gibson just came right out and said it on Fox News. Here's Salon, which is a
Starting point is 00:14:10 far left publication. Is it on purpose? Gibson peddles wildfire conspiracies on Fox News after his home burns. Well, he has a right to ask anything he wants to. He just lost everything. He just lost his home. He's asking the question, is this on purpose? Is somebody burning down much of Los Angeles, Hollywood? Is this a plan? But he's asking a great question there. Yes. Because there are accusations that all these fires started simultaneously.
Starting point is 00:14:47 There are lots of questions that need to be – and the water situation, of course, is the biggest one. Yes. He was on Laura Ingram's program Friday night, and I saw it. I'm like, did I just hear what I thought I heard him say? And his comments have gone viral. A lot of people thinking the same thing. You can't have this many things go wrong, and it's a coincidence. Right. And his house actually burned down while he was on the Joe Rogan podcast.
Starting point is 00:15:25 By the time he got finished the interview, his house had burned down. Right. But you start looking at it. Gavin Newsom detonated at least four dams in the state. Yes. You can't argue he didn't do that. And last November was bragging that he was ahead of schedule in detonating dams. That's right.
Starting point is 00:15:47 We've got the receipts on that. There was no water in the fire hydrants. The Palisades City Reservoir was empty. The mayor left the city in a dry season, knowing that the high possibility of fire, she left and went to Africa to go to inauguration of the president of Ghana. But there's just a long list of strange things that have happened. We've watched in the past week, wondering how could there be that many mistakes? And they're all unrelated.
Starting point is 00:16:29 They're not planned. It's not part of a grand scenario to burn down Los Angeles. Unless you're looking at it from 30,000 feet, and then things start connecting together. Well, you heard Gavin Newsom say that he is absolutely behind the mayor, the mayor of Los Angeles. Okay. Karen Bass stands behind her. Well, let's go back just a little over two years, October 2022.
Starting point is 00:17:00 There's the Washington Examiner. Will the next mayor of Los Angeles, Karen Bass, be an agent of communist Cuba? The mayor. The woman who was AWOL during the fires. Right. An agent of communist Cuba. You may be kind of sitting back here. Communist Cuba.
Starting point is 00:17:23 What does Cuba have to do with L.A. and the fires and everything else? Well, let's take a look here. This is NBC News, August 3rd, 2020. I am not a communist. Potential Biden running mate, Congresswoman Bass reassures Cuban American voters. Biden almost chose her to be vice president. I guess she wasn't communist enough so he went with kamala harris doc i don't remember her being
Starting point is 00:17:53 under consideration to be vp but she was a member of well let's put it i don't say a member of the communist party i can't prove she has a membership, well, I don't want to say a member of the Communist Party. I can't prove she has a membership card and an ID number. But she is a frequent visitor to Havana. And she was a big fan of Fidel Castro. So this NBC article says, Representative Karen Bass, the five-term California congresswoman
Starting point is 00:18:28 and potential Joe Biden running mate, urged Cuban-American voters to not believe the lies of Republicans. And what were those lies, Rick? She said, I am not a socialist. I am not a communist. I have belonged to one party my entire life, and that's the Democratic Party. Well, now you just admit it. You are a communist. The communists infiltrated the Democratic Party many decades ago.
Starting point is 00:18:58 They took it over. The Democratic Party wasn't always a communist party, but it was infiltrated. It started in, I would say, the 70s. And, you know, by the time Barack Obama was in the White House, the Democratic Party was a communist party, with Barack Obama being a communist. And so Karen Bass is a very active member of a Cuban organization that was founded by the SDS, the Students for Democratic Society, which itself was founded back in the early 1900s by prominent socialists in America. John Dewey, the father of education. Communism light. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:54 Walter Lippmann. Trying to remember some of the other names that were part of the founding of that organization. I'm trying to think of the name, the Industrial League of something. That became the SDS. And so in the 60s and 70s, the SDS was very big in anti-war protests in America. Well, those SDS radicals ended up becoming leaders of the Democratic Party when they got into their 30s and 40s and 50s. So there was a natural progression of socialist slash communist leadership coming into the Democrat Party.
Starting point is 00:20:36 I found a YouTube video. I don't know who this gentleman is. Paykin Hunter. Right. An online commentator on YouTube. I mean, he's not, doesn't have a gigantic following, but he's got a few followers on YouTube. Man, he hit this thing. Yes, he did.
Starting point is 00:20:54 He laid it out that Karen Bass is a career communist. So watch. November 7, 1983. Remember this date, but first, let me introduce you to Karen Bass. Back in the 1970s, community activist Karen Bass went on at least 15 trips to Cuba, many with a group known as the Venceramos Brigade, a Marxist group started by the Castro regime to subvert American interests, weaken democracies, and spread communism around the world. Founded in 1969, the Benzeraimos Brigade organized trips to Cuba every year for half a century.
Starting point is 00:21:34 They attracted the most radicalized and delusional segments of the American left, including overtly Maoist and pro-Soviet communist groups. In fact, a Los Angeles police investigator who infiltrated the group testified to Congress saying that to be a member of the brigade, you had to be confirmed as a Marxist-Leninist, as a brigadista, and then moving up the ranks to organizer for the Venceremos Brigade. Karen Bass visited Cuba every six months.
Starting point is 00:22:05 Their mission? To radicalize young, impressionable American leftists in terrorist tactics and guerrilla warfare. Members of the Venceremos Brigade were even taught how to make bombs. Karen Bass admits on her many pilgrimages to Cuba, she went to see Fidel Castro speak several times, even calling him charismatic, and upon his death, praised him, saying, The passing of Comandante Enjefe is a great loss to the people of Cuba, even though the people of Cuba see him as a dictator who impoverished their island. Another group, the M19, took its belief in revolutionary anti-imperialism to extremes, violent extremes. The M19 was the first and only women-created and women-led domestic terrorist group. Since their founding in 1978, M19's tactics escalated from robbing armored trucks and abetting prison breaks to building their own explosives and carrying out terrorist bombings. From 1983 to 1984, M-19 bombed an FBI office, the Israel Aircraft Industries building,
Starting point is 00:23:12 the South African Consulate in New York, D.C.'s Fort McNair, and Navy Yard, which they bombed twice. But that wasn't enough for them. On the night of November 7, 1983, the M-19 called the U.S. Capitol switchboard and warned them to evacuate the building. Minutes later, the M-19 bombed the north wing of the U.S. Capitol. November 7, 2023 marks 40 years since the M-19's bombing of the U.S. Capitol. Members of the M-19, like Susan Rosenberg, traveled to Cuba with and were radicalized by the Vence Ramos Brigade. The South Los Angeles Vence Ramos Brigade was led by Karen Bass, who is now mayor of Los Angeles. Wow, that's fascinating information. Is it too far out to suggest that the communists have torched Los Angeles?
Starting point is 00:24:10 See, we are in World War III. Yes. And the battles have already started, and they're inside our country. You are foolish and naive to just dismiss any possibility that things like these fires are part of World War III. When I see things like this, I'm like, okay, something unusual is taking place. This is very unusual. If the mayor was not a long-time Cuban communist, I wouldn't be saying these things. But the head of the city is a Marxist-Leninist,
Starting point is 00:25:01 a radical, a communist, who is committed to violence. The organizations that she belongs to teach violence. Yes. So. And have committed violent acts in the past. Mel Gibson is absolutely right to ask the question is it on purpose? You're going to see more things like this in the coming years as we move to the early 2030s. I believe World War III comes to an end sometime around 2032.
Starting point is 00:25:38 But from 2025 to 2032, we're going to see multiple events similar to the Los Angeles fires. Not just fires, but strange things that are going to happen. So the question would be from the cheap seats out in the audience, maybe. So what would be the communist plan in Los Angeles? Well, first of all, chaos. Other than create chaos. But is there a bigger, longer game in place yes um the chaos is the number one thing because they can create order out of chaos you're destabilizing an extremely rich stable area of Los Angeles.
Starting point is 00:26:25 You've wiped out mansions that were worth $10 to $50 million. You've wiped out wealth. What do Marxists do? They wipe out wealth. They do do that well. Now, those areas will have to be rebuilt. I think you're going to see a quote, smart city go up.
Starting point is 00:26:48 Yes. Which is basically communism by the block, isn't it? By the cell. Yeah. And after this fire, you're going to hear the Mayor
Starting point is 00:27:02 Bassus and the Governor Newsom talking about the great plan to rebuild Los Angeles. The new LA. Yes. But if Mel Gibson thinks he's going to go back and build his mansion, not going to happen.
Starting point is 00:27:19 Doc, they're not going to let any of these people rebuild their mansions. They're going to build subsidized housing for illegal immigrants. In Navajo. And 100% paid for by the federal government. That's because Joe Biden said that the other day. 100% compensation.
Starting point is 00:27:39 He didn't offer that for North Carolina, though, did he? Yes, but that won't happen under Trump. Right. By the way, Gavin Newsom said, I invited President-elect Trump out to California. Well, why didn't you invite Joe Biden? He is the president. Well, Joe Biden did go out there last week. He did?
Starting point is 00:27:57 Yes. What did he do? He showed up and then said that he had a great-grandson. Oh, that's right. He talked about his great-grandson's birth. I forgot about that. Yeah. He wasn't thinking about the people.
Starting point is 00:28:11 But that just shows you how innocuous the visit was, Rick. Yes. That it wasn't important enough, really, to even show up on your radar. Doc, I found a video from, I think it's the World Government Summit. I think that's the World Government Summit. I think that's where it's from. This is World Economic Forum founder Klaus Schwab visualizing about the future of Los Angeles in the year 2030.
Starting point is 00:28:40 There's that year. 2030, huh? Let's see what Air Schwab envisions Los Angeles looking like in 2030. For the 20th government summit, you will use an app like Uber, but not anymore anymore to call some driver, but automatically guided car, a self-driven car will come to your hotel or wherever you are and will bring you to the airport. No, Los Angeles is one of the cities with the heaviest traffic who told me in 2030 Los Angeles will be private car driven free. And this will allow to transform highways into parks and other public spheres. Well, what are the autonomous driven cars going to ride on?
Starting point is 00:29:46 In the parks? Are they going to go through the parks? You see, you ask the right questions, Rick. Are roads going to disappear? You're saying cars are disappearing? No, he said they're going to be autonomous driven cars. And then he says the roads are going to be turned into parks. Are they flying cars?
Starting point is 00:30:08 No, see, this is the way the globalists think. They have a plan for each city. They've got a plan for your city. Yes. And if they have to, they'll burn it down. Because that's called creative destruction. You deliberately destroy something so that you can build up something new. Out of chaos order.
Starting point is 00:30:26 Yes. So I lean towards the view that the fires are intentional. And that this is part of a bigger plan. And that plan includes World War III. And a communist takeover of America. And your reasoning on it is just as legitimate as saying that, you know, Leprechaun started the fire, Rick. I mean, you know, because no one's taking accountability for the fires. No one is saying, you know, it's our fault. We didn't have it. We didn't make sure the pressure was up, or it's our fault. I should have not been on a plane to Ghana. Nobody's going to take responsibility. And so if you look at the evidence, it's just as reasonable to say that someone set
Starting point is 00:31:13 these fires. I'm of the opinion they probably did for the purpose of chaos. Yes. I mean, the mayor fired firemen because they wouldn't submit to the COVID vaccines. She cut the fire budget in the past year, 2024. Right. The city fire budget. But the city, I haven't verified this. I saw somebody posted online that the city government donated tens of millions of dollars to the state of Israel? Yes.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Is that for real? That's for real. And Ukraine. And they cut their fire budget. Yes. See, there is a madness. There's a purpose of this madness. You can say, well, we did it for the right reasons.
Starting point is 00:32:04 But the real reason you did it was to cut the fire budget. Yes. And now? And the fire department gave donated gear to Ukraine. Yes. And Zelensky came out yesterday and said, we are considering sending some of our fire brigades to California to help them out. Don't you have a war going on, Mr. Zelensky?
Starting point is 00:32:27 I mean, I already knew that they had donated the equipment to Ukraine in the first place. And so Ukraine's going to turn around and donate back to California with their fire brigades? It's so stupid. But people believe it. This Cuban radical communist group is real. I'll put the website up on the screen. That's their website. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:50 They're actively recruiting people right now. And it is an American group. Yes. It's not a Cuban group. It's based in the U.S. Look what it says. Over the past 50 years, the brigade has given nearly 10,000 people from the United States the opportunity for a life-changing experience in Cuba. In other words, they've been indoctrinated.
Starting point is 00:33:12 Right. We took them to Cuba to indoctrinate them in Cuban communism. Wall Street Journal, the headline, he poured $27 million into his Malibu mansion. Now there's nothing left. This is a familiar story. A great loss. The story says real estate investor Robert Rivani spent close to three years renovating an oceanfront mansion on Malibu's star-studded Carbon Beach, adding a zen garden and a sunlit infrared sauna. The house was built around an
Starting point is 00:33:53 interior courtyard with a pond, and the living spaces had limestone flooring, onyx on the walls with the Roman clay plaster. Including the price of the original house. The project costs close to $27 million. He had been planning to list it for sale for $40 million. Last week, Rivani watched as the California wildfires tore the five-bedroom home apart, reducing it to rubble. He said, it's catastrophic. How do you sum up losing over $20 million in 24 hours to any human being?
Starting point is 00:34:31 Another one, Wall Street Journal. Their wealth is in their homes. Their homes are now in ash. Yes. And, you know, Doc, when I saw that this morning, the first thought that came in my mind was Jesus in Matthew chapter 6. Would you read that scripture for me, please? Yes. Matthew 6, verses 19-21. Well, a lot of people have lost everything and i i saw a very um
Starting point is 00:35:29 heartbreaking video the other day doc a couple in their 90s and their home burned down and what what's about in their 90s going to do? They're not going to rebuild. The husband was doing his best to encourage his wife and saying, we'll rebuild. We'll start over again. You're in your 90s. It's sad. It's a great tragedy. And it looks like there's going to be much more destruction this week with the winds returning.
Starting point is 00:36:10 You ever been in California when the Santa Ana winds are blowing through? No, I haven't. I have. Never in a fire like this. I mean, I've just been there during the season when the winds are blowing. And they're quite strong. I mean, it's like winds that we would have here for, you know, a strong tropical storm. Right. But when there are flames, it's hell on earth. I can recall as a young boy seeing the fires across Kansas and Missouri and the wind blowing 40, 50 miles an hour.
Starting point is 00:36:48 And I mean, just everything getting burned in its path. And, you know, you had seen sent me a video the other day about a fire tornado. I saw a fire tornado when I was a kid. I've never heard of such. And I mean, and that's frightening to see from a kid. I've never heard of such a thing. And that's frightening to see. From a distance, we were at least two or three miles away from it. But these were common sights in LA this past week, these fire tornadoes. It's just hard to comprehend unless you've actually seen it. So that's as close as I've been to it, Rick, and I'm sure that's just a scintilla of what they're experiencing out in California.
Starting point is 00:37:29 It is. Well, Doc, this next story is from the Daily Mail. Prophet who predicted assassination attempt on Trump claims mega earthquake is poised to hit the U.S. Now, we mentioned this gentleman last year. Brandon Dale Biggs, Oklahoma church pastor, made news when he posted a video in April of 2024, three months before the assassination attempt
Starting point is 00:38:03 on Donald Trump in Butler Township, Pennsylvania. So he did post a video, April of last year. The assassination attempt was July 13. So it's on record. He did make that prophecy, and he prophesied there would be an attempt on Donald Trump, and the bullet would pierce his ear. I think he said burst his eardrum. Burst his eardrum.
Starting point is 00:38:30 Yeah, that's what Pastor Biggs said. Right. But close enough. So he is now prophesying that a mega earthquake is coming to the United States very soon. The New Madrid fault line, he said, is going to erupt. And he made this prediction a few days ago on a podcast. So I'll let you take it, Doc. Well, what we're going to share with you video-wise is actually an excerpt from an interview he did with Steve Ciccolani back in March of this past year.
Starting point is 00:39:10 And this is where – So this interview is a year old? Yeah. This is the same interview where he made the prediction on the Trump assassination. And so later on in that same interview with Steve Ciccolani, he makes mention of this particular 10 magnitude. Oh, I didn't realize. I thought this was recent. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:30 So, yeah, it's nearly a year old. It's a little bit length, about a little over four minutes long. Yeah. I'll summarize. He says he saw in his spirit a 10 magnitude earthquake hit the New Madrid fault line stretching through Missouri, Arkansas, Tennessee, Kentucky, and Illinois. And he said, he believes that the earthquake would happen in the spring because he saw sycamore leaves on the tree as they were being, as the buds were opening up. Now, I don't think he said which year. No, he didn't say which year. And he really acted as if he didn't, had never heard of
Starting point is 00:40:16 the new Madrid fault line before. I know when I watched that, I realized he didn't even know what it was. Right. So did you want to go ahead and run the video? Yeah, let's go ahead. Let's watch it. All right, let's watch. You know, part of the vision, one of the visions I've had, I saw the New Madrid earthquake. And I, you know, it's so big when it happens that the Mississippi River is actually, it goes out another direction. Did you know that happened in 1811? Did you know that? No, I'm not a student of that kind. So there's so many fault lines. It's like
Starting point is 00:40:51 you normally like California, you see one fault line. But geologically, there's so many fault lines in that area. So when the earthquake happened, you know, it's like something like only magnitude seven, you know, it's, we're not even eight or nine, right? The Lord showed me a 10, a 10. So the rivers, the Mississippi starts to move the other way. Wow. Yeah. It goes, it flows the other way. Well, when this happens, I saw, I saw that the, the, the, it would, it was so big that they actually were flying in Chinook helicopters from the West Coast to bring in aid to the people. And the Chinooks were flying so low that they were shaking the houses. And I remember going outside and the Lord's, it was a bigger event. You know how, of course,
Starting point is 00:41:39 when 9-11 happened, there was no planes in the sky. It was completely still. Everybody was freaked out. This was similar to that event. And I saw everybody in their houses and they were trying to watch the TVs. They were trying to get information on what happened, but you could smell smoke in the air. I could physically feel the outside. I could see the trees. Because I went out on my porch, I could see the sun coming up, where it was coming up, and when this event happened. And the shaking. It's in the morning. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:42:15 Okay, that's very important. Yes, it was in the morning. And there was actually, I've seen the sycamore leaves on the trees. And I could see the leaves were trying to come out on the trees. it was they were fresh and i could see the sun coming up and everything and i remember i mean that's that's winter spring we're going into spring that's exactly the season it's this year it's happening very soon it would be yeah and it would and the lord told me he said when they divide when they try to divide jerusalem with the state solution, I saw this major, this event happening. He said in three days after this is announced, when they try to do this, all this stuff with Jerusalem and with Israel and with Gaza and all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:43:00 He said, you will see a three day window. And he said, that's the time for the people to flee because this will be a major, major, major earthquake. So do you mean a tremor comes first? No, I saw the earthquake happen. But from from Texarkana to Tulsa to where we are right now, the there was a 6.0 bigger 6.5, whatever. And it was so big. There was 1800 people that died just from here to Texarkana going, going South. And all the houses on cinder blocks were completely shaken to the, to the foundation fell down because of how big this earthquake was.
Starting point is 00:43:41 But it was an aftershock. It was, it was the one that happened on the New Madrid, and then this one was set off. So it was a chain reaction to these major earthquakes that were coming. And so I saw that they were not able to bring in supply trucks from east to west because there was no bridges. So they had to fly in um airplanes they're flying in supplies from the airplanes and these chinook helicopters trying to bring in stuff so because
Starting point is 00:44:12 a lot of the supply including food and and medicine has to be transported up the mississippi well it well i don't know necessarily that probably yeah that's that's what happens yeah so but all that was done and so they were flying in the boat they were flying in on the hell the helicopters in the in the airplanes trying to bring in groceries to these towns like us you know in oklahoma and all these other areas but it was so bad i remember it lasted for months and the stock market the lord said focus on the lion's face and i didn't know what he was talking about at the time, but I saw a stone face on this building. And on this building, there was a lion. It was a mouth in the lion's face.
Starting point is 00:44:54 It was open and everything. And so I went and looked and it was the New York Stock Exchange. And there was tumbleweeds going down the street of Main Street, street of wall street it was going to tumbleweeds and and there was complete it was completely quiet there was nobody out in new york which is unheard of and so um the lord would show me this stuff and that's whenever i've prayed over it you know and now here we are with these these eclipses coming like we're talking what she's talking about something. And I'm like, Lord, is this it? Which of those stock? Well, I've I've just I've tried not to be critical or cynical in situations like this. But I don't doubt that there will be a new Madrid earthquake someday. So it's going to happen. It's bound to happen. We're overdue, actually, for it to happen. But, you know, I know that judgment comes on nations because of their sin, the sins that they've committed.
Starting point is 00:45:57 Not their foreign policy. Yeah, not our foreign policy situation. At the same time, I realize that God does speak to people, and sometimes, and I don't know if this was a thus saith the Lord from him, or it's a dream that he had that he's relaying, and those, you know, they should give us pause to reflect and to say, are we prepared for such a situation like this? What if there was a New Madrid earthquake, number two, that happens? It would create the kind of devastation that he's talking about there. So I do try to keep in mind to despise not prophesying. And just allow the Lord to deal with those that issue them.
Starting point is 00:46:45 But understand that, you know, if you're putting out a thus saith the Lord, you're treading on very dangerous ground there. And so you understand this probably more than anyone else. I became apprehensive about the prophecy when he tied it to Israel, state of Israel. Right. And creating a Palestinian state. Because I've heard this Zionist... Rhubarb? Almost voodoo, you know.
Starting point is 00:47:21 If you do this, if you go against the state of Israel, God's going to split the country down the middle. I've heard this for years. If you split Israel, God's going to split America. Well, the New Madrid fault line split, you know, what, 200? 1804. 1804, so over 200 years ago. Did America do something to the state of Israel that year? There wasn't an Israel.
Starting point is 00:47:49 There wasn't a state of Israel. It's just a big earthquake. Right. The other thing, my other thing that makes me pause is I used to interview Steve Giacolati. And then when I discovered that he was going to Israel to study gematria with the Jewish rabbis, gematria is numerology. And I said, okay, I can't have him back on the program. As long as he's studying numerology, he's over in voodoo that Jews do, which which is kabbalah he's practicing kabbalah yeah
Starting point is 00:48:29 he's dabbling with it okay so those two things make me very leery of that prophecy and uh but it's easy to say the new madrid fault line is going to it's going to erupt someday because it's going to so so it's california yeah yellowstone super volcano i mean it will it when we don't know and if you notice and i didn't know that that was recorded a year ago yeah this was uh back last march before the eclipses so steve was tying all this into eclipses. There's part of that numerology and Kabbalahism. It didn't pan out. That's why we're
Starting point is 00:49:14 1 John 4 says, Beloved, and this is John speaking to believers, little children, beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits, whether they are of God, because many false prophets are gone out in the world. We're not saying he's a false prophet, but the Bible does say to test the spirits. Yes. Okay. And that goes for everybody. Everybody. Okay. Everybody. I just wrote a book that's projecting
Starting point is 00:49:46 2032 as the end of World War III. You know, I'm clearly, I'm not a prophet. I'm not attempting to prophesy. I'm basing it on a number of things. Right. Including
Starting point is 00:50:03 historical cycles. So, would I like to be wrong? Absolutely. Yes. I'd love, I'd be delighted to be wrong. I don't want to see World War III. I don't want to see war either. But I know the visions that the Lord has given me in the past.
Starting point is 00:50:25 And he didn't disturb and change my life just to mess with my head. Doc, he completely changed the direction of my life. Right. A whole different direction. I spent the last 26 years talking about it. You could be right now. Retired. A retired media executive.
Starting point is 00:50:43 Yes. On a golf course. Living a good life. On a golf course. And you don't even like going talking about the good old days of cable television yeah back when people were eager to buy it no i i walked out of a career because of a vision right and my daughter's dream one was the same night i had a vision during the day time she had to dream at night put the two together and I was like
Starting point is 00:51:08 this is the Lord this is the Lord I cannot ignore it I had no idea it would last 26 years and it has and last September when I went to Myrtle Beach
Starting point is 00:51:23 the very first thing the Lord started talking to me about was war. The very first day. And I thought, oh, here we go. The topic I don't want to think about. But that's what he introduced to me on the very first day. And then I began to see the pattern. pattern and he showed me the the news articles where various heads of state military commanders were saying throwing out dates 2029 2030 2032 now they being prophetic there or do they already know the agenda they're projecting they're projecting dates that they know right so i'm not a prophet, but I would like, and my prayer is I want to be as one of the sons of Issachar.
Starting point is 00:52:11 Right. That knew the times. And knew what God's people should do. That's not a prophet. That's somebody who's using wisdom, knowledge of the past, discerning what's taking place right now, and looking at the trends of the future. Saying, if we continue on this path, this is where we're going. Right. And when we have stories like this, I think we do a disservice, that is, to God's people because, let's say, for instance, nothing happens.
Starting point is 00:52:43 Okay? Let's say, for instance, nothing happens. Okay. Well, they're not likely to be as prepared next time when the legitimate crisis happens. That's right. And listen, there's going to be a crisis in this country. Well, I'll tell you what, Doc. The next video is going to tell you what this crisis is going to look like because this is World War III. This is outgoing fbi director christopher ray they waited to this is a swan song yes oh by the way a week and a day from the inauguration i'm only going to be here for another week by the way i'm going to tell you guess what
Starting point is 00:53:20 on my watch as fbi director the chinese communists got inside all of our critical infrastructure. I hope you guys figure it out. I got to go. My term is over. This is Christopher Wray on CBS 60 Minutes. China's cyber program is by far and away the world's largest, bigger than that of every major nation combined, and has stolen more of Americans' personal and corporate data than that of every nation, big or small, combined. But even beyond the cyber theft, there's another part of the Chinese cyber threat that I think has not gotten the attention publicly that it, I think, desperately deserves, and that is Chinese government's prepositioning on American civilian critical infrastructure
Starting point is 00:54:12 to lie in wait on those networks, to be in a position to wreak havoc and inflict real-world harm at a time and place of their choosing. The Chinese have already insinuated malware into critical American infrastructure. That's correct. Like what? Things like water treatment plants.
Starting point is 00:54:38 We're talking about transportation systems. We're talking about targeting of our energy sector, the electric grid, natural gas pipelines. And recently we've seen targeting of our telecommunications. These are the battles that are going to be fought in World War III between now and the early 2030s. Again, the 2030s is the end of the war right all right these kind of battles are going to be fought between now and then and it's a battle you won't see or hear about because by the time it happens it's lights out for you yes either your electricity is out your water your local water system is down your cell phone network's down banking system atms transportation could be trains subways airports and this is according to outgoing fbi director
Starting point is 00:55:37 christopher ray yes these are the kinds of things you could expect already in our utility systems what kind of panic do you have if Chinese hackers shut down the air traffic control system? How many jets and planes are in the air right now? Oh, I've seen estimates on any given day between 4,000 to 7,000 planes are over North America at any given time. 4,000 to 7,000 planes are over North America at any given time. Four to 7,000. So if hackers shut down the air traffic control system right now, there's 7,000 planes and jets carrying passengers that have no idea where they're at. Right.
Starting point is 00:56:20 That's chaos. Electricity going out. It could be a regional blackout. It could be a regional blackout. It could be a national blackout. Communication blackout. They could mess with hospitals. Hackers could get into hospital computer systems and increase the dosage of medicine
Starting point is 00:56:43 in thousands of patients simultaneously right so this is what we're facing now while mr ray was the fbi director he was busy looking for moms going to school board meetings to complain about pornography books in the library right he was investigating catholic churches who were too pro-life the biggest fbi investigation in history was to investigate the people who were in the capital on january 6th the biggest investigation in history but oh by the way let me tell you the chinese are in everything yes we didn't have time to get to them we were tracking down moms at school board meetings yes or we were arresting guys old grannies at at praying at abortion clinics. Or protesters going between velvet ropes at the Capitol building. Right.
Starting point is 00:57:48 Or we were trying to take down President Trump. Right. That's the big thing. But Christopher Wray said that the Chinese have virtually infiltrated the major telecom systems. So, I mean, imagine if the cell phone networks, just that alone, was shut down, Rick. Just that. The chaos. Because we're so reliant on our cell phones now.
Starting point is 00:58:13 Yes. But they're gathering information, dog. Navigation, everything. But they're gathering information on Americans. They're gathering information. Your whereabouts, your travels, your habits, your patterns. Why? Warfare.
Starting point is 00:58:29 They're going to exterminate you someday. Well, let's go on and talk about World War III. Financial Times in London. Donald Trump to urge Zelensky to lower Ukraine's conscription age to 18. Are you serious mr trump is going to carry on joe biden's and sullivan's policy to force ukraine to to draft 18 year old boys donald trump who said he was going to end the war in his first day, in one day, he said he was going to end the war in one day.
Starting point is 00:59:08 In 24 hours. 24 hours. That's what he said. That's what it was. He'd end the war in 24 hours. Now we're being told that Mr. Trump is going to pressure Zelensky, you have to draft more boys. Why?
Starting point is 00:59:21 Because you're going to prolong the war. It's not going to end in 24 hours they've already convinced donald trump you can't do it just like when he was president he tried to withdraw from syria and they'd convince him you can't do it you gotta go you gotta stay in syria all right here's a good reason stay in syria mr trump there's oil there yeah that's how we got troops still in Syria to this day. Well, they would plant the stories. Assad's going to gas little children.
Starting point is 00:59:52 If you leave, that's what he's going to do. As soon as you leave, he's going to gas children. Yes, in incubators. Yes, kill the babies in incubators. Well, President Trump's national security pick, Mike Waltz, was on the Sunday morning circuit here this weekend and appeared on ABC News to talk about this policy update. And he did indeed confirm that as part of the plan moving forward is to urge Ukraine to lower its conscription age, its draft age, down to 18 years of age. Let's watch this.
Starting point is 01:00:27 Do you anticipate, will the first meeting with Putin be just Trump and Putin, or will this be trying to bring in Ukraine as well as Zelensky, Putin, and Trump? Well, we haven't set the exact framework for it yet. We're working on that. But I do expect a call for at least in the coming days and weeks. So that that would be a step. We and we'll take it from there. I will say, you know, the other thing that we're going to need to see is really stabilizing things on the battlefield. And one of the things that we'll be asking of the Ukrainians is they have real manpower issues. Their draft age right now is 26 years old, not 18. I don't think a lot of people realize that they could generate
Starting point is 01:01:19 hundreds of thousands of new soldiers. So when we hear about morale problems, when we hear about issues on the front line, look, if the Ukrainians have asked the entire world to be all in for democracy, we need them to be all in for democracy. And they certainly have fought bravely. They certainly have taken a very noble and tough stand. But we need to see those manpower shortages addressed. This isn't just about munitions, ammunition, or writing more checks. It's about seeing the front lines stabilized so that we can enter into some type of deal. So why do you need hundreds of thousands of more soldiers if you're going to end the war in 24 hours? Because you're not ending the war in 24 hours. The war is continuing. The election's over.
Starting point is 01:02:06 The election's over. We believed it. But the deep state lives on. The war party is in power. And the beat goes on. So it also implies that we're losing in Ukraine too. Yes. Because
Starting point is 01:02:24 we need more dead bodies to put out there. More young men will lose their lives. And for what? For what? For Zelensky, for NATO, for the deep state, for the defense contractors,
Starting point is 01:02:38 for the warmongers. Hundreds of thousands of 18, 19-year-old boys will die needlessly, just fed to the war god. RT, Ukraine attempted drone strike on Russian gas supply to NATO states. This says, Ukraine has launched an unsuccessful drone attack on Russian energy infrastructure, which delivers natural gas to Turkey. which Ukrainian forces launched at a Russian gas compressor station in Russia's Krasnodar region. The site is crucial for the operation of the Turk Stream Pipeline, which delivers natural gas from Russia to Turkey under the Black Sea. Several nations in southern Europe, including Hungary,
Starting point is 01:03:51 used the Turkish route to receive supplies. Kiev's attack was aimed at stopping the supply of gas to European nations through the neutral intermediary, being Turkey. Now, this is what the Kremlin in Moscow said about it. Yes. So, the attempt of the armed forces of Ukraine to attack the Raskia compressor station in the Krasnodar Territory is a continuation of the line of energy terrorism. That's how Moscow was framing this. And that's coming from Press Secretary of President Putin, Dmitry Peskov. Saturday's attempt by Kiev to attack the Raskia compressor station in Gais Krasnodar territory is essentially a continuation of energy terrorism, which Kiev has been adhering
Starting point is 01:04:39 to, apparently under the supervision of overseas friends for a long time, he said. So according to Peskov, he said this is the suspension of gas transit compressor stations in Sudsa and so on and so forth. Beneficiaries are United States, which significantly, consistently increase the supply of liquefied gas to European markets. Moreover, this is gas that is sold at very, very inflated prices, Peskov said. And so he's making the case, who benefits from the destruction of this pipeline? Certainly not Europe. Very wealthy investors who own American energy companies. Yes. And once again, I make the case, who are we at war with? It's almost as if we're at war with Europe. Yes.
Starting point is 01:05:32 Yes, they're destroying the European economy. If the attack had gone through, Doc, the pipeline to Turkey would have been cut off. Like this is the Turk Stream. It would have been destroyed like the Nord Stream. Like the Nord Stream. And a lot of small European countries would be without natural gas in January. Right.
Starting point is 01:05:58 What would that do to natural gas prices worldwide? Oh, it would skyrocket because of demand. Yes. And there'd be peoplerocket because of demand. Yes. And there'd be people who'd make money off that. So, with that in mind, I'm going to go to the next headline. New sanctions take sweeping action against Russia's energy sector. There she is, the outgoing Secretary of the Treasury, Janet Yellen. This is a Newsweek article.
Starting point is 01:06:29 Biden slapped new sanctions on Russian energy companies today. Just as? As he's leaving. And this story was Friday. Yes. So. Oh, wow. What he's doing, Doc, he is driving up gas and oil prices in America that will be blamed on Trump.
Starting point is 01:06:55 The attack that Russia stopped today, or Saturday, that was meant to increase the price. Yes, I see that now. To push up the price increases. It was to be a one, two. See, they made that announcement on Friday, and then the attack happened on Saturday. The whole thing was to jack up the price of gas and oil and natural gas in America worldwide.
Starting point is 01:07:23 So that Donald Trump would be going into the White House with inflated energy prices. And remember, it was a drone strike, too. Yes. Where did they get the drones? And where did they get the guidance for the drones? From the United States. That's right. Wow.
Starting point is 01:07:37 Yeah, I had not made that connection on the story until you just said it. I've got one more story before I conclude. I've got a lot more, but we're eight minutes over our one-hour mark. But while we're talking about Russia and Ukraine, I have one more important story. This is from a website I found today, MKRU. It's Russian. The Orshnek, that's the the the hypersonic missile right will be launched in three
Starting point is 01:08:10 directions general popov revealed the scenario for 2025 right right they got my attention now it's a it's what this is is a an interview with him. He's a retired general, Russian general. And I just took the last several questions, Doc. Yes. I wanted to present something that he said. He said a lot of things in this interview that I wish we had time to talk about. But in particular, I want us to take a look at these last couple paragraphs. Okay.
Starting point is 01:08:50 And so a question was posed to Vladimir Aglizandrovich, and they asked the question, do you think that you will see Hazel or Hazelnut or Oreshnik next year? He responded, of course, I think that Hazel will not just appear, but will work. Next time it will appear for a demonstration or as a trump card if we're dealt a painful blow again. After all, a one-time flight on Dnipro did not give the feeling that the enemy understood something, so more was needed. Probably President Putin chooses some positions, or perhaps he wants to accumulate more rockets to say, here we have them, look at them through space and make a decision. Otherwise, we will launch them all. And you will definitely have the apocalypse in Ukraine.
Starting point is 01:09:32 Not a one time, but immediately a mass launch is also possible. We once launched seven daggers at once in Ukraine, and there was a lot of noise. And in this case, a massive strike will probably be organized under the Hazel or a Roshnik as well, in three or even four directions at once. And so the Russians are dropping a hint. To who? To the West. To Donald Trump. Yes. We're not afraid to use these hypersonic missiles. You have his national security advisor, Mr. Waltz, a congressman from Florida, who's resigned. And he just said a few minutes ago, Ukraine needs to draft 18-year-olds. We need hundreds of thousands of more soldiers in the battlefield.
Starting point is 01:10:21 For what purpose? To fight Russians. To fight Russians. To fight Russians. Russians are coming back saying, that general's saying, you know what? We might just launch a lot of hazels at the same time in three or four directions.
Starting point is 01:10:33 Now, before he said that in this interview, he predicted that the U.S. is going to withdraw its support for Ukraine eventually in 2025. And that France and Great Britain and to some extent Germany are going to fill in the gap of what the United States was supplying. So when you read the entire interview, what he's forecasting is that Donald Trump will not have the stomach to stay in this war.
Starting point is 01:11:18 He wants to get out of it somehow. He wants to win. He wants to win, no. He wants to say he won. But the Russians aren't going to say you won. The war, Mr. Trump's war advisors are giving him advice. You've got to be strong. You've got to be tough.
Starting point is 01:11:36 You've got to show Putin you don't take any stuff. You've got to push him around. Well, you're not going to push Putin around. He's going to push him around. Well, you're not going to push Putin around. He's going to push back. And so I kind of think, Doc, that things are going to go pretty messy with Mr. Trump and Russia for months. And President Trump will at some point just say,
Starting point is 01:12:00 I'm out of it. We're getting deeper and deeper in this thing. I'm out. Right. Right. Okay. With this Russian general, General Popov, he's saying that he expects Great Britain, France, and Germany to step up and take the leadership in supplying weapons and money to Ukraine to keep the war going without the United States.
Starting point is 01:12:27 And then you have a true European war at that point because Russia is not just going to sit there and just let that happen. So when the general said that the Hazel hypersonic missile may be launched in three or four directions at once. He wasn't necessarily saying Ukraine. London, Paris, Berlin, Kiev. That's what he's saying. You guys want a demonstration
Starting point is 01:12:58 of what we can do? I'm telling you this because I know a lot of people are very, very hopeful that the world is going to be wonderful now that President Trump's in the White House. It's just not going to be so. I wish him well. I pray for him. But the world is on fire.
Starting point is 01:13:30 And just because he pulls out of Ukraine. The war continues. The war continues. Europe was in World War II for years before the United States got in it. Right. You're going to have the same situation here. And Germany, Great Britain, France,
Starting point is 01:13:53 the same key players in World War II, World War I. So they're going to be pushing this war in Ukraine. They're not going to give up. They can't. They can't. They're in too deep. They could if they just would be can't. They're in it too deep. They could if they just would be reasonable, but they're in it too deep. And Germany's on the verge of bankruptcy.
Starting point is 01:14:13 Right. Their economies depend on this war continuing. And yet the continuous of the war is destroying their economy. Yes. That's the devil for you. He got them hooked. Got them hooked devil for you. He got them hooked. Got them hooked on a drug. The drug is war.
Starting point is 01:14:30 And it's killing them. They get high from it, but it's killing them. So, just keep this in mind. We're going to have turbulence over the next five, six years.
Starting point is 01:14:46 I personally do not believe the warfare will be in America before the early 2030s. Although I believe we could see infrastructure attacks, blackouts, water systems down, cyber war taking place inside the USA. Red flag terror attacks. You've got major forest fires in neighborhoods burning. Yes. What if that happens in three, four, five more cities in the coming year? See, this is what war looks like.
Starting point is 01:15:26 So you have to be prepared and you have to be alert and you have to be ready spiritually and physically ready for the things that are coming upon the earth. Well, I'm going to wrap it up for today. Thank you so much. We're 16 minutes over our one hour mark.
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Starting point is 01:17:55 Welcome to Morning Manna. We are glad to have you with us wherever you are in the world and wherever you are in your world, whether at home or at work or in the car or truck or plane wherever it is we're just glad that you're you have set aside an hour to study the word of god this year january 2025 we have started our study of the book of Romans. So we're in chapter one, and today we're looking at verses 17 through 25. Let's pray, and then Doc Burkhart's going to read the word. We will begin our lesson. Dear, wonderful, gracious, heavenly Father, thank you, Father, for this awesome, beautiful day.
Starting point is 01:18:41 Thank you, Father, for saving our souls souls thank you for all of the blessings of heaven that manifest in our lives thank you so much father father your sons and daughters have gathered in a virtual meeting from many nations to be taught by your spirit the truth and the amazing revelations that are in your word. So, Father, we desire to be stronger saints for your son's kingdom. So we ask the Holy Spirit to take his seat at the head of the table and conduct this morning manna Bible study. Teach all of us, Father. In the name of Jesus table and conduct this morning man a bible study teach all of us father in the name of jesus amen amen all right well i'm excited to get uh into the word here do you love the word
Starting point is 01:19:34 because they are the words of life ladies and gentlemen amen so if you've got your bibles and you should always have your bibles uh bible study uh We're picking back up at verse 17 here. I'm reading from the King James down to verse 25, so if you'll follow along with me. For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith. As it is written, the just shall live by faith. For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men. Withhold the truth in unrighteousness. Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them,
Starting point is 01:20:10 for God hath showed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse. Because that when they knew God, they glorified him not as God. Neither were thankful, but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and four-footed beasts,
Starting point is 01:20:52 and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lust of their own hearts to dishonor their bodies between themselves, who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed forever and ever. Amen. This is a really important passage today, folks. It'll answer a lot of questions people have, especially about the preaching of the gospel. Amen. Well, you know, Doc, we could take verse 17 and teach on it in its entirety,
Starting point is 01:21:32 you know, for a Faith Friday lesson. Yes. For in it is revealed God's righteousness from faith to faith, as it is written, but the righteous shall live by faith. The just shall live by faith. King James Version, for therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith as it is written.
Starting point is 01:22:00 The just shall live by faith. He's quoting Old Testament prophet Habakkuk. Yes. Let's start out by talking about the righteousness of God. For therein is the righteousness of God. The righteousness of God refers to a divine provision of righteousness that is freely given to all believers through faith. It's not human righteousness.
Starting point is 01:22:37 It is God's righteousness, and it is a gift from him. It comes from his mercy, his grace. He is bestowing something to us that is from the deepest part of his heart, this love for us. And by his mercy and his grace, he bestows his righteousness to us. This righteousness is revealed in the gospel, the gospel being the good news of the kingdom of God. The gospel is God's plan to justify sinners and reconcile them to himself. I don't think modern churches devote enough time
Starting point is 01:23:40 to the subject of reconciliation. Yeah, I agree. You know, Doc, I don't know if I ever heard a sermon about reconciliation. I'm trying to call it. But it didn't stick.
Starting point is 01:24:00 It wasn't something like, you know, it's not like I heard sermons in the past that that taught me and i understood how important reconciliation is what is reconciliation it's it's the it is the process of two or more parties being reconciled right if if they are reconciled it means that there has been a split a division right so at times families are split up and they have to be reconciled sometimes friends are split up and the friendship is is ruptured and over And the friendship is ruptured. And over time, the friendship is reconciled. The two parties come back, express their love for each other.
Starting point is 01:24:55 Mankind was separated from God in the Garden of Eden. That's when the split occurred you know you can have this in a marriage you can have it in friendships and can have it in work relationships when did the split? And so God knows. He remembers. Oh, I'll tell you when I was separated from mankind, when Adam and Eve disobeyed me. Yes.
Starting point is 01:25:39 That's when it occurred. And so mankind was separated from God for thousands of years. When God sent his son, Jesus, when Jesus left heaven, think about it. All the angels of heaven knew that Jesus was the son of God, the only begotten Son of God. The Trinity was revealed evident in heaven, Father, Son, Holy Spirit. And one day, the Son disappeared and left heaven. And I've painted this picture in the past, whether it happened this way or not, I don't know. But I imagine the moment that he left, that suddenly his robe fell to the ground, fell to the floor of the throne room. His crown, his scepter, his ring, everything just fell.
Starting point is 01:26:42 And Jesus was gone. And angels angel said where did he go and the father said he went to earth he went to earth yes why I'm going to reconcile humanity to me how are you going to do it I have a plan just watch I have a plan Jesus entered Mary's womb as an embryo that
Starting point is 01:27:17 just blows my mind the son of God left heaven as the beloved son of the Creator. And he turned himself into a tiny little microscopic human embryo. And he placed himself in the womb of Mary. And I thought you know probably he was inside his mother's womb looking around going
Starting point is 01:27:49 okay so this is what it's like to be an embryo and I'll tell you this if you had known that the son of God was in Mary's womb if you would have laid your hand on her womb and said, heal me, that embryo had the power to heal you in that moment.
Starting point is 01:28:16 If you had known it was the Son of God and you had faith, see, it's faith in Jesus. Yes. He didn't get the power to heal when he grew up and became a man it wasn't like God in heaven said okay I'm gonna drop some miraculous powers on you he was God in the womb yes he could have healed people with cancer as an embryo if they had faith that they had known it was the Son of God in Mary's womb and they had faith
Starting point is 01:28:53 what a radical thought yes it's a very radical thought so when Jesus was born in Bethlehem the angels over Bethlehem, and Doc and I have been there to Bethlehem, and we've, you know, outside the town, it's still undeveloped. Yeah. I mean, you see the hills, and you can see the very hills where the shepherds likely were keeping watch over their flocks by night. That's right.
Starting point is 01:29:30 And so those angels sang, peace on earth, goodwill toward men. What was the peace and what was the goodwill? The peace was God was announcing peace between him and humanity. Goodwill. He's announcing goodwill. and humanity. Goodwill. He's announcing goodwill. What is the goodwill? I've come to reconcile you. I've sent my son to earth to reconcile you to me.
Starting point is 01:29:57 This is wonderful news. This is good news. And the angel sang. So justification and righteousness are accessed through faith alone. You are justified the moment you are saved. Yes. You're justified. God sees you as sinless. He sees you perfect the moment you're saved.
Starting point is 01:30:35 He doesn't look at you and go, oh, what a mess I got to work with. No, he sees you justified he sees you perfect clean, holy, spotless sinless righteousness means right standing you are in the right standing with the creator
Starting point is 01:30:56 in other words, you're not crossways with him see we were crossways with God before he had a controversy with us he but the relationship was severed because of sin yes so the only way to be justified and the only way to be righteous is through faith. Faith, what kind of faith? Faith in Jesus. Not only faith through Jesus and in Jesus, but faith in what Jesus did on the cross.
Starting point is 01:31:36 A crossless gospel has no power. A justification, a righteousness, a justification our righteousness are not the products of our works or us keeping the law of god we can't that's right we can't do enough good things in the one God man who kept the law, never sinned, lived perfectly on earth in a human body to show us the way. So when you believe in Jesus and believe in what he did on the cross and believe that he died and was resurrected then his righteousness is is imputed to you it comes to you his righteousness not anything you did not anything you could ever do because it's all about what he did. Yeah, the Bible says there's none righteous, no, not one. Just to make it clear, there's none righteous, no, not a single one.
Starting point is 01:32:53 And so we have no righteousness in ourselves. Anytime we think we've got it, we don't. It can only come from Christ and can only be received by faith. Yes. So faith is the vehicle for receiving God's righteousness. Yes. Because we trust in the work of Christ on the cross and we trust in God's promises. Yes.
Starting point is 01:33:23 All right, so the verse says, for therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith. What does this mean, from faith to faith? I believe the way to interpret it is that faith has a beginning, a middle, and an end in our lives. That faith is a continuous growth and development in our lives. We go from baby faith to mature adult faith over years. Now, I think we, as individuals, we can greatly influence the speed that we develop from faith to faith, from baby faith to mature adult
Starting point is 01:34:27 faith? How much do we study the word? How much faith do we put in God? How surrendered are we to Christ? That one has a lot to do with it how surrendered are you in other words are you still holding on to control
Starting point is 01:34:52 of your life or partial control of your life or have you completely surrendered your life to allow Christ to live in you we can determine the speed and the depth that our faith grows from what i call baby faith to mature adult faith i mean when i was a young christian i thought i had faith we all do don't we
Starting point is 01:35:18 i did i thought i had faith but i now look back I go wow that was really immature undeveloped faith but it was faith it was something for God to work with and you know Doc in those days I got saved in 78 so my early growth period, you know, was late 70s, the 80s, the early 80s. And I, you know, I was being fed from religious television, religious radio.
Starting point is 01:36:08 You know, I was reaching out trying to find, I was hungry. Okay. But the ministry said I was going to, and I'm not criticizing them, but it was more on the, I hate using the phrase the word of faith that you know if you have faith you're not going to have any problems and
Starting point is 01:36:32 I had nothing but problems and I prayed a lot and I was always on my knees it just seemed like I was continuously praying to get out of whatever situation I was in right and and years later I came to understand that God was doing those things in my life to teach me real faith I was like why are these people over here not having these kind of problems? Why am I having these problems?
Starting point is 01:37:08 What am I doing wrong? You know, and I'd go through their lessons and their books and their, you know, back then it was cassette tapes, you know. And then later CDs. I'd listen over and over. Like, what am I doing wrong? What am I missing? And then over time, I came to realize God was saying, no, I'm teaching you real faith. You know, you got to walk through a room full of alligators and not be afraid.
Starting point is 01:37:45 You want real faith? You know, walking through a field of tulips. What does that do? Requires no faith. Right. Walk through a pit of alligators. And come out unharmed. See, this is where you learn real faith. And you know, part of this trusting
Starting point is 01:38:08 and this activation of faith, if we go back to the prophet Habakkuk, when did he initially say this? It was in the midst of the nation of Israel being invaded. It was right in the middle of the invasion. So they're starting the carrying away into exile of people from the promised land.
Starting point is 01:38:35 And so in the midst of all this happening, an invasion taking place, people being taken back, taken to Chaldea. Here the prophet Habakkuk comes out and says, the just shall live by faith. And you've got to know that there are people
Starting point is 01:38:54 standing around, hey Habakkuk, you might not have noticed this, but we're being invaded right now. And he says, I'm glad you brought that out because our modern day faith teachers, they'll quote Habakkuk 2.4. You know, they'll proudly teach it from the pulpit. The just shall live by faith.
Starting point is 01:39:17 That's what Habakkuk said. But they never tell the congregation what you just said. Right. That the land was under military invasion that's right you know you want yeah you want to see God at work live by faith when your country's being militarily invaded so faith if we were being invaded right now would you live by faith would you live by faith
Starting point is 01:39:52 because if you can't live by faith when we're not being invaded how are you going to live when we are being invaded and know know that you know that you know that God's going to protect you. That's right. So faith brings spiritual energy and vitality in the present day.
Starting point is 01:40:21 And faith gives you the promise of eternal life for the future we need faith for today and we need faith for tomorrow tomorrow being eternity not i'm not talking about tuesday because it's always now faith is for now Paul quoted Habakkuk to emphasize that the principle of justification by faith was in the Old Testament. This isn't a new concept. Right. It's the continuity of God's redemptive plan.
Starting point is 01:41:16 The righteous have always lived by faith. That's right. That's the key there, that they, no matter, right from the garden until now, everyone has been justified by faith. That's the only way. In fact, for Abraham, it was said that his faith was counted to him for righteousness, that the faith itself was counted as righteousness in his life. And so this is a principle. It didn't begin at the cross,
Starting point is 01:41:46 but the cross fulfilled it. Faith, you see faith going back. It's in every book of the Bible. Noah, he was moved by fear but he built he built an ark by faith that's right how does that work
Starting point is 01:42:15 God revealed to him hey I'm gonna I'm gonna kill everybody on the planet I'm even gonna kill the animals but I got a plan for you you and your family. Build a boat.
Starting point is 01:42:28 He was moved with fear, but he built the ark by faith. Right. So would you say that the wrath of God then, the judgment of God, should cause some to be prompted to respond by faith. In fact, that's basically what verse 18 says, isn't it?
Starting point is 01:42:50 Yes. So for years, I've been telling people that if the United States of America does not repent and return to God, there's going to be a severe chastisement, and it's going to come in the form of war. And I am now firmly convinced that that so that they would be moved by fear and build their own ark, whatever it is that God has for them by faith. That they're getting a warning in advance. This isn't going to overtake people if they're listening. God has men and women proclaiming what is coming. But it takes faith to put into action a plan to overcome the problem that is that's up ahead so
Starting point is 01:44:07 faith the righteous have always lived by faith salvation has never been based on works it's always been based on trusting God's provision. Amen. Faith is not a one-time act. It is a lifelong reliance on God. Yes. It's daily. You can't use faith just to get saved and then never use faith again. You have to be using faith every day
Starting point is 01:44:45 to believe that you're saved. Faith is what sustains us. Faith is what shapes our decisions, our actions. Faith is what defines our spiritual growth. Faith transforms your entire existence faith is what motivates you to a life of obedience a life of righteousness a life of trusting
Starting point is 01:45:19 in God's promises it's all faith yes God desires that his sons and daughters believe what he said but you know what he said first you have to know what he said and then you have to believe he he He will fulfill it. That's why. Faith Fridays. We're talking about faith. Faith is going to be a. Central theme for us. Throughout 2025. Once you know. What God said about health.
Starting point is 01:46:00 It will be easy. For you to receive. The healing he wants to send to you. Once you understand, it's his will for you to be healthy. Once you have that in your spirit, your healing is going to come to you. doc i was watching a an old video of a healing uh service and actually it was not the service it was somebody talking about being in the service and they were talking about um there's a woman that had cataracts very thick cataracts said you could see the white cataracts, very thick cataracts. It said you could see the white cataracts on her eyes.
Starting point is 01:46:49 And when the minister was A.A. Allen, when he prayed, the cataracts fell out and landed on her cheeks. So he took, when the evangelist took his hands off of her eyes the cataracts were just laying on her cheeks wow they fell out see she had faith her faith touched Christ
Starting point is 01:47:19 and Christ touched her and the ailment departed that's what I want to get in your spirit this year Christ touched her and the ailment departed. That's what I want to get in your spirit this year. I want you to be healed without Doc and me even present. It just happens. Yes. So the righteousness of God is revealed in the gospel of the kingdom.
Starting point is 01:47:51 Because it demonstrates his justice in addressing sin and his mercy in providing us a way of salvation through faith in his son. God is just. He deals with through faith in his son. God is just. He deals with the sin in our lives, but he's merciful. He provides a way for us to get out of it. It's only through faith in Christ,
Starting point is 01:48:18 believing the gospel, the good news. So there's a balance of justice and mercy. And this highlights God's perfect character, his ability to justify sinners while he himself remains holy. And so now the question is, why do we need to be made righteous? Why do we need to be made righteous why do we need to be made just and so paul makes that argument here going forward in that creation itself reveals to mankind you're unrighteous you lack something to please god you need righteousness and so uh he makes the argument over the next few verses,
Starting point is 01:49:07 there is no one that has an excuse. No one. Not the pygmies in New Guinea, not the barbarians in Siberia. No one is without excuse. Everyone is held accountable because creation itself declares that you're unrighteous
Starting point is 01:49:26 so in the days of Moses God established the law and there was no deviation from it the law is the law and it stands the law stands until the end of the earth there's no law after after Christ comes back the law has been in effect since the days of
Starting point is 01:50:02 Moses and it will remain in effect until christ returns the law is the law the law demands perfect obedience it it the law has no no provision for the inability to obey the law perfectly. It's rigid. It's emphatic. The law is the law.
Starting point is 01:50:39 And yet, mankind cannot fulfill the law. God established the law because of sin it wasn't his plan it wasn't his desire he had to establish it because of the sin of Adam and Eve yes but because he's
Starting point is 01:51:01 he's just and he's merciful because he's merciful and he's merciful, because he's merciful, he sent his son to die on a cross to fulfill the law. Jesus fulfilled the law by living a sinless life. Jesus said, I didn't come to abolish the law, but to fulfill it. Jesus said, not one jot or tittle of the law will disappear. It will not go away as long as heaven and earth exist.
Starting point is 01:51:38 The law is in effect right now for those who are not in Christ. Yes, that's important to know. The moment you get out of Christ, you're back in the law. Yes. And if you can keep that perfectly, then you're saved. But you've already failed.
Starting point is 01:51:56 Right. So the only way to fulfill the law is to be in Christ. So the law is to be in Christ so the law reveals sin but the gospel provides a solution through faith in Christ it's a wonderful plan the gospel is more than a message it is the revelation of God's character, his justice, his grace. It is his eternal plan to reconcile humanity to himself.
Starting point is 01:52:36 And the gospel, by him giving us the gospel, he demonstrated his faithfulness in fulfilling his promises to man he didn't leave us here alone no way to get out of the mess that adam and eve put the human race in another thing about faith it not only justifies but it transforms people yes it renews your heart it aligns your will with god's will it empowers us to live righteous lives it produces fruit. Faith produces fruit.
Starting point is 01:53:27 It produces holiness, obedience, a love for God, a love for other people. Let's move on to verse 18. We've spent 43 minutes on one verse That's Romans for you It's so rich We're not going to get through it quickly are we Verse 18
Starting point is 01:54:00 For the wrath of God Is revealed from heaven Against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who hold the truth in unrighteousness. It's a lot packed in that sentence. We got to break it down. For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men. Men who hold the truth in unrighteousness. So the only way you can study the word of god is break it break a sentence down into parts because each part has it's packed with an amazing amount of revelation right
Starting point is 01:54:54 you can't just read a sentence and then gloss over it and say okay i think I know what that means you have to take each part of the sentence and drill down to get the full meaning so we'll start with God's wrath God doesn't have outbursts he doesn't have temper tantrums. So when we talk about God's wrath, we're not talking about him jumping up off of his throne and throwing things at earth. Right. He's not like Yosemite Sam, bouncing around and everything, and rabble, rabble, rabble.
Starting point is 01:55:41 No, that's not what we're talking about, the wrath of god this is a this is a righteous response to non-faith the bible says whatsoever is not of god is sin yes and so you're right and so this is god's response to non-faith if you will it is his holy righteous response to sin and unbelief it's it is his moral opposition to all evil and his commitment to justice he is a just god he rules fairly in his courtroom the law is the law
Starting point is 01:56:36 and there's no favoritism now if you come into the courtroom loving on his son hanging on his son telling the judge how great his son is and how much you love and admire his son and you believe in his son and you thank the judge for sending his son to pay for your sins against the law, guess what? The judge says, well, then you're not guilty. You're innocent. In fact, there's nothing even in your file folder. You have no charges against you. His son's perfect. His son is sinless. You want to get as close to his son as you
Starting point is 01:57:35 can get. Over here, Judge. Yeah, look at me. I'm hanging on your son. I love him. He's awesome. Human anger is, we've all seen it and we've all done it, okay? But God's wrath is consistent, it's righteous, and's judicial it's not impulsive it's not yes arbitrary he doesn't just blow up but he does have wrath and for some christians uh today it's difficult for them to believe anything about God's wrath. Right.
Starting point is 01:58:37 They've been taught a picture of God will overlook everything. There's nothing that upsets them. Because those individuals, and I'm talking about people who are in church, people who are Christians, they don't want to admit to themselves that their behavior and their attitudes and their words upset the Lord. Yes. They don't want to believe it they don't want to believe that their words, their thoughts and their actions and their attitudes are contrary to what God
Starting point is 01:59:11 thinks and believes and says and it isn't taught from the pulpit either because pastors and preachers are afraid that their congregation will be offended if you call them out for your behavior does not measure up
Starting point is 01:59:26 to God's standard. Well, that preacher, he just talks about my sin. Well, you're a sinner. You're a sinner and it's revealed to you by heaven itself. Yes.
Starting point is 01:59:43 The law, preaching the law, you know, Luther said, Martin Luther said, you know, all preachers need to preach the law and grace. If you handle those two, you have preached the gospel. People have to know there's a law. They have to know what it is. They have to know that they're guilty. And then they have to know that there's grace. But, Doc, I have known Christians who, to me, have an attitude that they have a, I don't know, they have some kind of license from heaven.
Starting point is 02:00:33 You know, their mouth, their attitude, their behavior, they can do anything that they want to do. And they have this license. Nobody else gets the license. They've got the license. They can behave the license. They've got the license. They can behave that way. They can talk a certain way. They can slander. They can gossip.
Starting point is 02:00:51 They can be angry. They can do anything. They have a license. Right. And you can't convince them that their attitude and their words and their behavior
Starting point is 02:01:00 is contrary to God. Because they'll immediately, well, God is love. He loves me. Yes, he loves you. Of course he does. He hasn't dealt with you yet. He's merciful. But you keep talking and acting and behaving that way,
Starting point is 02:01:19 he's going to deal with you. Yes. And you just can't reach him. It's difficult because churches don't teach that we are saved from the law people believe the law all the laws in the past no the laws in effect right now if I stepped out of Christ I'm now in the law yes and God is required to judge me according to the law right so I want to stay in Christ I don't want to be judged according to the law.
Starting point is 02:02:08 Revealed from heaven. The wrath of God revealed from heaven. So that's teaching us that his wrath originates with his sovereign authority. And it is universally applicable to all humans. Yes. No excuse. humans yes no excuse there's no excuse nobody gets a pass
Starting point is 02:02:31 it also tells us that there's divine intervention in the moral order of the world god's rat oh now this is where who this is where people get upset with me. God's wrath is revealed through the natural consequences of sin. Okay. Okay. there will be natural consequences to prolong consistent, unrepentant sin. I'm not talking about you made a mistake, you fell. I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about long-term, consistent, persistent, stubborn, rebellious sinning.
Starting point is 02:03:33 There will be physical consequences. Yes. And it may show up in diseases. It may show up in a financial calamity. I think I've told this story on Morning Man. I don't know. I know I've told it to you, Doc. I don't know if you remember it.
Starting point is 02:04:05 When I was a young Christian, there was a couple in our church that they, to me, were the ideal Christian husband and wife. I mean, they were just the sweetest couple I've ever met in the Lord. And the man, the husband, was a close friend of Dimas Shakarian, who was the founder of the Full Gospel Businessmen Fellowship. In fact, this man was on the International Board of Directors of Full Gospel Businessmen Fellowship. And his wife, she's just the sweetest, had just the sweetest personality, gentle, sweet spirit.
Starting point is 02:04:55 And I wasn't there when this happened. I was told about it. They had, God had given them the gift of healing and word of knowledge. Believe me, they had the God had given them the gift of healing and word of knowledge. Believe me, they had the word of knowledge. When I was a very young Christian, I'm talking my first couple of years, I used to tell my friends, you know, I'd say, hey, their name was Art and Betty, Arthur and Betty.
Starting point is 02:05:22 I'd say, hey, Art and Betty are out. I just looked out the window, see Art and Betty, Arthur and Betty. I'd say, hey, Art and Betty are out. I just looked out the window. See, Art and Betty just arrived. If you're doing anything wrong in your life, you better repent before they get in here. And the reason I would say that, they would never embarrass people, never, ever. But Art would take you aside, put his arm around you and look in
Starting point is 02:05:47 your eyes and speak from the Holy Spirit believe me the fear of God would come on you when you know that short gentle peaceful man would just look into your eyes and just know everything about you. That's the kind of couple they were. Anyhow, this one incident, again, I wasn't there. It was in a meeting. Hundreds of people were there
Starting point is 02:06:20 and they had a healing line and people were coming in and standing in line people were there and they were they had a healing line and people were coming in and standing in line and art and betty were laying hands on them and people were being healed and this next man in the line had something wrong with his leg hand on the man's leg and his wife Betty grabbed his arm pulled his hand away and said no art don't you pray for him and arts like Betty what are you doing here you know hundreds of people in this room watching this and Betty said no we are not going to pray for this man to be healed
Starting point is 02:07:06 and I was like what are you doing what she looked at this man and I don't remember the name you know she said she called out a female's name she goes who is Sally and the man said I don't know and she goes yes you do who is Sally and she's I I don't know I don't know what And she goes, yes, you do. Who is Sally? And she's, I don't know. I don't know what you're talking about. I just came here to get my leg healed. And she said, you're having an affair on your wife,
Starting point is 02:07:35 and your mistress's name is Sally. And the man broke down and repented, confessed it. Okay. Now, I was told that that incident happened, and I can believe it because I know how art and Betty were in real life I could see that happening so there's natural consequences of sin God wasn't withholding healing from that man because he wanted to be mean to him he was saying you you you would have a disease in your leg because of your sin and I can't heal your leg until you repent the objects of God's wrath, obviously, are sins against God.
Starting point is 02:08:30 We'll call these vertical sins. These are sins that involve a direct offense against God, idolatry, neglect of worship, irreverence, a rejection of God's authority and character, rebellion, stubbornness. Doc, what does the Bible say about rebellion and stubbornness? They're equivalent to witchcraft, Rick. So it's not just a matter of just saying, I'm on the other side, or I don't agree.
Starting point is 02:09:16 But rebellion implies direct conflict with God, much like witchcraft would be. So vertical sins are between you and God. Idolatry again uh a a neglect of worship and worship includes there's many ways worship includes not only praising him and worshiping him but it also includes financial offerings that you're giving to the work of God to spread the gospel. He expects it. He doesn't give a pass. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 02:09:52 I don't believe in tithing. I believe tithing ended in the church age, but giving didn't end. No, not at all. In fact, giving increased. The saints in the book of Acts gave all that they had. They didn't give 10%. They gave all that they had.
Starting point is 02:10:16 That was 100% tithe. So if you want to believe in tithing, then you better do it the way they did it. So the horizontal sins, these are sins that we commit against other humans. And that can be everything from committing immoral acts with them. It can be treating them unfairly, slandering them, deceiving them, exploiting them, using them. Have you ever been used by another Christian? I have.
Starting point is 02:10:57 I've been used by people that confess Christ. They've used me. I know that. Right? See, there's deception involved. It's a sin that they may not even be aware that they're doing. It's so deep in them they don't even know. Right.
Starting point is 02:11:21 That they deceive others and use them. Immorality, just remember this. Anybody who will sin with you will sin against you. Just keep that in mind this kind of sin involves moral corruption in human relationships and that comes from a failure to recognize God's moral law in the way that we treat one another
Starting point is 02:12:01 and it's sin to God this brings his wrath you you can't claim to be a christian and consistently persistently long-term mistreat other people you can't do it you're going to bring the wrath of God onto your life. Yes. And we're not necessarily talking about heinous sins either. You may not be a serial killer, but you might be a serial gossiper. Yes.
Starting point is 02:12:38 So read the seven things God hates. And one thing that many church people do is they sow discord among the brethren. Yes. God hates it. Why would you do something God hates? It's beyond that he doesn't like it he frowns on it he hates it and when and when he hates something you are provoking his wrath gossiping slandering uh seditious acts and words you know what's sedition sedition is to undermine the authority of a leader with evil intent yes yes to for the purpose of weakening their influence you could people can use uh seditious words and actions against an employer, a CEO, a manager, an owner. They could use it against a pastor. They could use it against the husband, the father of the house.
Starting point is 02:13:58 There's all kinds of ways. It's an evil spirit. Sedition is evil. We have seen here in America sedition at a gross level in the government. Donald Trump was the target of sedition. That's the greatest thing, the greatest crime done against Donald Trump in his first term were the acts of sedition. Where people conspired to weaken him for the purpose of forcing him to resign. That's sedition.
Starting point is 02:14:46 Yes. So make sure you're not doing anything against the leader. You're provoking the wrath of God. humanity's sin is not due to ignorance, but to willful suppression of the truth about God. That truth is known through creation. Creation speaks of God's greatness, of his truth, of his justice. And moral corruption leads to spiritual blindness because people suppress divine truth because they prefer sin and rebellion
Starting point is 02:15:39 over righteousness and obedience. But it's a choice to be blind. It's not an accident it's not something well i i'm you know this is the way i was born no you chose to ignore the righteousness of god revealed in creation you chose it you you may that's what that last line means. King James really doesn't flesh it out well, but it says, who hold the truth in unrighteousness. Well, how can you have truth in unrighteousness? What it means is you are choosing to ignore the righteousness of God
Starting point is 02:16:17 so you can remain in your sin. Yes. So they distort God's word, his ways, his character. They distort it to justify their own sinful behavior. And that makes them morally accountable for their rebellion. Because they willfully reject God's revelation. Yes. So humanity's deliberate rebellion against God's truth justifies God's wrath. And this universality of sin speaks of the urgency of salvation for mankind.
Starting point is 02:17:12 And the only way to be saved is faith through Jesus Christ. Doug, we're over our time limit, so I think we'll end here at this point, and we'll pick it up at verse 19 tomorrow. All right. Well, praise the Lord. We appreciate you being here with us today for Morning Manna, starting a brand-new week here as we continue to explore the book of Romans. I hope you're learning some new things this week.
Starting point is 02:17:42 A couple of reminders. As Rick mentioned, fridays we have faith fridays and so all this week we're going to be building up for that and this coming thursday evening once again we'll get together for prayer for uh the microchurches and so you'll see alerts on faith and values for that any other words before we depart today, Rick? Well, today was a pretty serious lesson, and I'm just so glad to see that nobody ran away. Well, if they did, we didn't see them, so. Yeah, he's still here. We got 369 people in the online class right now, you know. I'm proud of you. You stayed with me. You didn't vote and go,
Starting point is 02:18:30 this is too deep today. We'll come back tomorrow. No, hey, Romans is deep the whole way through. I guarantee when we're done with Romans, man, you are going to be so confident in your faith. You're going to just be ready to tackle giants. Praise God.
Starting point is 02:18:47 All right, Rick. Well, say goodbye for now. And we appreciate you being here with us for Morning Manor. Join us tomorrow morning, Tuesday, 8 a.m. here on the U.S. East Coast for Morning Manor. And hopefully all of our technical issues regarding recording and everything are taken care of. And so you can listen and watch to this at a later time as well so god bless you and we'll see you Tuesday morning all right love you see you tomorrow bye bye

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