TRUNEWS with Rick Wiles - Morning Manna - Dec 2, 2025 - Proverbs 17:10-13 - Wise Correction and Rebellion’s Consequence

Episode Date: December 2, 2025

In today’s Morning Manna, Rick Wiles and Doc Burkhart share important updates about the ministry’s transition to a new, fully owned platform and the upcoming launch of Morning Manna on internation...al television, while encouraging the audience to walk with them in grace during this season of stretching. The study explores Proverbs 17:10–13, revealing the deep contrast between the wise—who humbly receive correction—and the fool, who remains unchanged even under harsh discipline. Rick and Doc warn about the spiritual insanity of rebellion, the severe consequences God sends against those who resist His order, and the danger of engaging with a fool in his folly—more perilous than facing a mother bear robbed of her cubs. They close with a sober reminder that repaying evil for good invites ongoing trouble into one’s house, urging believers to remain discerning, humble, and faithful. Teachers: Rick Wiles and Doc Burkhart You can partner with us by visiting FaithandValues.com, calling 1-888-519-4935, or by mail at PO Box 399 Vero Beach, FL 32961. MEGA FIRE reveals the ancient recurring cycles of war and economic collapse that have shaped history for 600 years. These patterns predict America is now entering its most dangerous period since World War II. Get your copy today! www.megafire.world Get high-quality emergency preparedness food today from American Reserves! www.AmericanReserves.com It’s the Final Day! The day Jesus Christ bursts into our dimension of time, space, and matter. Now available in eBook and audio formats! Order Final Day from Amazon today! www.Amazon.com/Final-Day Apple users, you can download the audio version on Apple Books! www.books.apple.com/final-day Purchase the 4-part DVD set or start streaming Sacrificing Liberty today. www.Sacrificingliberty.com

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good morning. Welcome to Morning Manna. We are absolutely delighted to have you here with us. And if you didn't hear yesterday, I'll tell you a little bit more. There are some big changes coming to Morning Manna later this month in the month of December. We're switching over to a new platform. And the name won't be, the name of the platform will not be faith and values. We have a new name. And the name reflects the direction the Holy Spirit is taking this ministry in, which is feeding you with the Word of God. And so that new platform is going to be unveiled towards the end of the month. The second thing is that those of you who have been paying a monthly subscription, that's going to end in December also.
Starting point is 00:00:54 The new platform will not have any monthly subscriptions, although it may have some video or audio on demand or audio books depending on the sources of the content because we will have to reimburse certain people, authors and presenters and so forth for using their material. But overall, everything will be free and open to the public. The platform is under development. It's why we had John Mark,
Starting point is 00:01:27 in India weeks ago, we had to evacuate him last Thursday on Thanksgiving day because a cyclone hurricane came into India where he was at. That's right. And in fact, the dock yesterday and today, the city he was in is underwater. Yeah. The city completely updates from the team in India. And so, you know, he had been asking for permission to leave for a, a, week, and I kept denying his request to leave. And so I told him, I said, you know,
Starting point is 00:02:04 God had to send a hurricane to get me to change my mind. So he finally was able to leave and go back home. Anyhow, we're continuing to build a new platform. It's not going to be as pretty as I would like it to be on the first day, because I'm a perfectionist, and I want everything perfect. But it's not going to be perfect. So it's a work in progress. But it is a platform that we own and we own the code. And it means that nobody's going to de-platform us. Nobody's going to censor us, which hasn't happened for the past couple years for the company we've been working with. But, you know, you know the stories with some of the other companies, they did de-platform us and censor us. So anyhow, these are the changes.
Starting point is 00:02:57 that we're making. And there will be videos, audio, Bible studies, music. We're going to have our own music channels. We're going to have audio books. So there's a lot that's being developed. Now, again, not everything is going to be there on the first day. It's going to take us a couple months to get everything tweaked and polished the way we would like it to be. But we know that our morning manna family is very flexible and forgiving and cooperative and supportive. And once you see what we're doing, you'll get the vision and you'll help us. Okay. So anyhow, we're going to have this all build out and releasing it later this month. I'll give you more details every day in the coming weeks.
Starting point is 00:03:50 and just pre-forced. We've got a lot that we must finish. We're moving out of our offices. We will be out of our offices by the end of this week's Friday. We're under pressure, but we're under more grace than we are pressure, Doc. Amen. I like that. That's where I'm at.
Starting point is 00:04:13 I'm under grace. I'm not going to say I'm under pressure. I'm under grace. Okay. And we're getting through the projects. We're getting through the deadlines. And I've never witnessed anything like this in my life the way this transition has taken place.
Starting point is 00:04:32 The Lord has been so gracious to us. So anyhow, pray for us. We are in the 17th chapter of the book of Proverbs. And by the way, one other thing I wanted to say before we get into this, I want to check the date. So our last lesson for December will be December 19th. We need to take a two-week break to transition into the new system that we're going to be operating in
Starting point is 00:05:07 because on February 3rd, Morning Manor goes on international television. We will be on direct TV in North America. We will be on Sky TV in Great Britain, Ireland, Western Europe, and we will be on DSTV across Africa. And that starts Monday, February 3rd, 8 a.m. on each continent. Yes. So, again, we're under pressure, but we're under a lot more grace. Praise God.
Starting point is 00:05:38 We're going to make this happen. And the Lord is stretching our faith. That's why we've been doing faith Friday. He's stretching our faith right now. And why does God stretch us? The stretching makes the stronger. Amen. So the stretching is increasing this ministry's strength.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Okay, so we are in the 17th chapter of the book of Proverbs, and today is verses 10 through 13. I'll pray and then Doc will read the word, Father God, our Father in heaven. Father, we thank you for the blessings that you're bringing upon this ministry. And, Father, when there are blessings on a ministry, the blessings extend to the people who support the ministry. And so, Father, I just rejoice that across the world, everybody who supports this ministry is receiving a measure of grace and prosperity and goodness and favor. as you are extending it to us. And you are enlarging our borders, expanding our territory, increasing us, Father.
Starting point is 00:06:54 And the same thing is happening to everybody in the world who supports Morning Manor. And, Father, if there are people who have been watching and listening and are not supporting us, I hope that they jump in. Jump in the water and enjoy it because your blessing. your blessings and favor, grace are upon us right now. Father, we invite the Holy Spirit into this Bible study. Take charge, Holy Spirit, and enlighten us. Teach us the word that we would be greater disciples to King Jesus.
Starting point is 00:07:31 In His name, Jesus Christ, we pray. Amen. Amen. And welcome to morning, man, everyone. We're so glad to have you with us, no matter where you are in the world today. Usually we have class members all the way from Russia. Switzerland, Southeast Asia, and of course, all across the U.S. and Canada. So welcome. We continue our study today in Proverbs chapter 17, and we're picking back up on verse 10. So if you're turning your
Starting point is 00:07:56 Bibles with me right now and read along with me, and I always encourage you to read out loud. It's always a good idea to read the Word of God out loud because I think it helps to reinforce the Word of God in our minds and on our hearts. So if you don't mind, read along with me. I'm reading from the King James, verse 10. entereth more into a wise man than a hundred stripes into a fool. An evil man seeketh only rebellion. Therefore, a cruel messenger shall be sent against it. Verse 12.
Starting point is 00:08:26 Let a bear, robbed or for whelps meet a man rather than a fool in his folly. And then verse 13, whoso rewardeth evil for good. Evil shall not depart from his house. God bless the reading of his word today. Okay, first letter, verse 10, a reproof. Entereth more into a wise man than a hundred stripes into a fool. The Aramaic Peshitta translation says a rebuke enters deeper into a man of understanding and a hundred blows into a fool.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Let's see what the Septuagin says. The Greek translation, in English says A threat breaks the heart of a prudent man but a fool, though scourged, does not feel it. That's a different twist on that proverb, Doc. Okay, so let's begin.
Starting point is 00:09:35 We'll start with the King James translation. A reproof entereth more into a wise man. What's a reproof? The reproof is a corrective word that exposes error in a person's thinking or behavior. What is teaching is that the wise man or woman welcomes this reproof because they put more value on truth than they do their ego, their self-pride. If the wisdom will soften the heart. And the soft heart is receptive to correction. The wise man or woman feels conviction deeply and immediately. The reproof enters the wise man or woman because humility opens the door to their hearts. And because they have a teachable spirit, it makes the correction.
Starting point is 00:10:43 fruitful, prosperous. Right. The reproof, the correction, brings forth fruit. So a wise man or woman sees a godly rebuke. Now see, when we say rebuke, people think of someone pointing their fingers saying, I rebuke you in the name of Jesus,
Starting point is 00:11:08 thus say of the Lord thy God, okay? That's not rebuking. Oh, the moment somebody does that, I like, just walk away, you know. If somebody's pointing their finger, I rebuke you in the name of, you know, because Jesus doesn't talk that way. Nope. He doesn't. The Holy Spirit doesn't talk that way.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Pride talks that way, okay? A godly rebuke is a loving rebuke. Okay. It's a loving correction. it doesn't bring shame it doesn't bring condemnation it does bring conviction there's a difference between conviction
Starting point is 00:11:55 and condemnation conviction is the inner knowing I did something wrong I said something wrong my actions were wrong condemnation is you are wrong you as a person you're wrong you're flawed
Starting point is 00:12:13 you're unfixable. See, that's condemnation. There's something wrong with you, right? Where conviction is, there's something wrong with what you said. There's something wrong with what you did. That's the difference. It's like when you correct children or grandchildren,
Starting point is 00:12:36 always let them know that you're not, you're not rejecting them. you're rejecting their behavior always affirmed to them before you bring the correction you set the child or the grand shout down and you say now I'm going to say some things here now
Starting point is 00:12:53 I want you to understand I love you I love you very much I will always love you however I don't love what you just did I don't love what you just said to so and so you're letting the child
Starting point is 00:13:10 know he or she's not being rejected. Right. It's their behavior that's being rejected. And so you're telling the child, you can fix your behavior. You can correct it. This is the way God deals with us. I know I've told this story a thousand times. Yeah. And I don't remember, I don't remember what's the last month. Doc, maybe I just told it. I vividly remember a scene in our home. This was a long time ago because Jeremy was about 13 years old. He was in that junior high stage of life, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:58 where they're testing, right? And so we had a split four-year home, and I was down in the lower level. And Jeremy and Carissa, his daughter, his sister, We're on the upper level. And Jeremy was doing something that was aggravating his sister, Chris. And she kept yelling, Dad, make him stop it.
Starting point is 00:14:20 And I kept saying, Jeremy, stop it. Okay, I'm yelling up the steps. And it just continued. And finally, I got frustrated because I was working on something and I was like, I'm being interrupted. And I went marching up the steps like the giant in Jack and the Beanstalk.
Starting point is 00:14:38 knee five oh i mean every step every foot on the steps that's what i'm saying i'm going up the steps like a giant and i'm mumbling to myself that boy's going to regret making me come upstairs and i got about halfway up the step stuff and i heard the holy spirit say from now on i will deal with your sins the way you deal with your son's sins. Wow. And I stopped and I said, what did you just say? And he repeated it. And I sat down in the steps and pondered what the Lord just said to me. And I said, how am I supposed to deal with my son who's misbehaving? And he's lovingly. Talk to him. And so I went in, I went into Jeremy's bedroom.
Starting point is 00:15:38 Of course, he was terrified. Hey, dad's here. He's going to, he's really going to punish me. Okay. And instead, I told him, I said, sit down. I want to talk to you. And I talked it out and he went over and apologized to Carissa. Okay. See, that's, that's a, that's a godly rebuke.
Starting point is 00:16:01 Right. Done in love. And that produces. love, right? And that produces love. And it produces, it produces, it produces fruit. That's what it's supposed to do. He's supposed to, it's supposed to produce correction. Correction is the fruit. But when it's a mean-spirited rebuke, which is condemnation, it doesn't, it doesn't reproduce good fruit. It produces shame and guilt and condemnation. So, what this verse is saying is that a godly person receive a godly review when it's done in love right okay
Starting point is 00:16:46 because they understand the value of truth the truth is more important than their ego um so doc i'll let you talk because i've been talking here too much um i'll let you i know you got some things you want to say Well, you know, just to expand on that, Rick, a wise man will take one rebuke more seriously than the fool will take many pussiaments. It only takes one stroke of truth to change a wise man, and it'll change him completely. So because the wise man goes inward, whereas the fool, he just is receiving punishment. Well, I'll just take the punishment. I've heard people say that. I'll just take the punishment.
Starting point is 00:17:36 which means you're willing to take the punishment but not learn the lesson that comes with it. So the why is actually cherished correction. Why? Because they know it's going to produce fruit. And it's also going to eliminate the hidden faults and hidden dangers there that are unaddressed. I've shared many times my wife Mia, she has a green thumb and she's constantly outside here trimming plants. Even cutting off what looked like perfectly good. branches and leaves off of plants. Why? Because she wants more flowers to bloom or she wants to
Starting point is 00:18:12 see fruit produced. And the same thing happens to our life. Does the plan experience pain? I don't know if plants experience pain or not. But if I'm a plant and I'm having a branch cut off at first I'm going to be like, oh, don't do that, you know. But the wise person is going to receive it. Why? Because I'm going to produce better flowers. I'm going to produce better fruit as a result of this. And so reproof actually strengthens the wise, just like it'll
Starting point is 00:18:44 strengthen a plant out here in the garden. Now, wisdom also, Rick, recognizes it doesn't know everything. It doesn't have all the answers. They know that they still need correction. They need to be refined. They need to be disciplined.
Starting point is 00:19:01 And it doesn't matter if you've been in the faith one day or a hundred years. We all need that correction and discipline in our life. Hopefully we need less as it goes along. But I think what I've learned in my own walk of faith is that when that correction comes in my own life, it's a bigger correction than it was maybe 20 years ago. Why? Because I should know better. I know more now. And so as you get older in the faith, yet correction goes even deeper, deeper and deeper. Not to woo, not to harm, but to get out the dross and to get out the bad stuff that's still floating around in there.
Starting point is 00:19:45 And I thank God for it. I don't know about you, Rick, but I thank God for it. You were last week before the holidays we were talking about, the silver goes into the crucible, but the gold goes into the furnace. right and and I said you know when you are maturing spiritually when God puts you in the crucible or in the furnace and you take your seat and you hold on and you say do what you got to do yes turn up the heat okay you're not screaming you're not flaying your arms and legs you're not banging on the doors of the furnace saying let me out of here You want to do you just go, okay, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:20:30 Father, crank up the heat and do what you've got to do. Yes. And get me out of here as soon as you can and just accept it. See, when you get to that point, you know that you are maturing spiritually because you know it's your father who is bringing the discipline into your life to purify you, to create the image. that he remember we're made in his image and his likeness and he's desiring to see his likeness his image but now what about the fool doc the fool says the wise receives a correction one correction more than a a hundred stripes to a fool in other words you can beat a fool a hundred time, there's no change.
Starting point is 00:21:27 You can whip a fool, physically whip a fool, and they just grit their teeth and go, keep beating me. I'm not changing. Right. Now, it doesn't mean that they're stupid or not intelligent. It means that they fail to meet the measurement. They're stubborn. Yes.
Starting point is 00:21:46 The core, I'm convinced, is they're stubborn. They're rebellious and they're stubborn. And they're added is, I would rather be beaten than to change. All right. You know why? Because it involves that word submission. They have to submit their will.
Starting point is 00:22:07 And rebels, the reason a person is a rebel is for their, because of the refusal to submit their will. That's what makes you a rebel. Yes. Ask a government to define a rebel. All right. A government official is going to say, well, a person who absolutely refuses to obey the government. That's a rebel. A person who refuses to respect authority.
Starting point is 00:22:35 They're a rebel. We have a lot of rebels in our country these days. So how does God view, what's his definition of a rebel? A person who refuses to recognize his authority to obey his law. That's a rebel. I've said before. People say they're Christians, well, okay, so the only way you can prove to me that Jesus is your king is by your obedience to his laws. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:08 Jesus said, if you love me, obey me. Keep my commandments. Keep my commandments. In other words, obey the law. His law, not the law of Moses, but the law of the sermon on the Mount. right that's the law he gave us um the stripes refers to stripes it means harsh punishment not necessarily not punishment that we're talking about with a whip but just harsh punishment repeated discipline does not penetrate in the heart a hardened heart of a fool correct
Starting point is 00:23:50 heart is calloused. It has experienced pain. It has, it refuses to respond to the consequence of punishment and pain. It doesn't produce repentance. Why? Because it's a stubborn heart. It's a rebellious heart. It would rather be whipped physically or verbally or whatever.
Starting point is 00:24:20 way the punishment is being administered they'd rather take the punishment than to admit that they're wrong and somebody else has a higher authority over them right um it mentions a you know a hundred stripes okay i mean that's just saying unlimited you know it could be the number is just meaning um extreme punishment nothing nothing produced as fruit in the life. If you don't understand this proverb, go to any state prison. Why are they in there?
Starting point is 00:25:02 They'd rather be locked up than to submit. They're rebels. And often go back. Often? And none of them will admit that they, well, say, no. Most of them will not admit they did anything wrong. Most of them will never admit that they belong there.
Starting point is 00:25:27 They see no need to change. There's a spiritual blindness there. And every punishment, just instead of producing the desired result, it produces the opposite. They become more stubborn, more hardened, more rebellious. So here's what the verse is teaching. You cannot teach wisdom to a fool with force. Yes.
Starting point is 00:25:57 That's it right there. Punishment will not make anybody wise. It just doesn't work. Right. And the reason why is because a fool, a fool will endure outward punishment, Rick, without any sort of inward transformation. The suffering does not solve it.
Starting point is 00:26:18 in his heart at all. And so the correction actually intensifies his stubbornness. And so instead of learning like he shouldn't, he becomes more entrenched in his foolishness. And if you'll notice this, Rick, for a lot of these folks in this in this set, the fool interprets discipline as injustice rather than mercy. He said, oh, bad things are always happening to me or why do things like this happen to me? instead of saying, wait a minute here, maybe the Lord's trying to speak to me through this. So they just look at, well, life's not fair, or I'm on the wrong end of the stick, or I'm on the wrong side of the tracks, or whatever it is, whatever excuse it might be. And so they refuse to repent.
Starting point is 00:27:07 And so the hundred stripes shows the complete futility of trying to pressure someone into wisdom and truth. And so that contrast emphasizes this great spiritual divide that takes place. The wise grow through words. The fool doesn't change even through woots. And so this verse serves as a warning, Rick. If you continue to reject correction from God, eventually it'll deaden your soul. That's scary. That's scary. That's scary. How many times you hear someone say about somebody else, I'll tell you what he needs, he needs somebody to knock some sense into it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:56 As though physically attacking the guy is going to suddenly, he's going to say, you know what, I'm going to be wise. It just doesn't work that way. In fact, they just become more rebellious because you're meeting them at their level. Yeah. all right it comes down to this some people don't want to be wise yeah and some people learn the wrong lesson too along with the way i share the story rec of when i guess i was about nine years old and i got i had been warned not to smoke in the barn i had a cousin and we would sometimes
Starting point is 00:28:39 smoke in the barn i got a warning you don't smoke in the barn and so one of the One time I'm with my cousin, guess what I was doing? I was smoking in the barn. Not the boys' room, but the barn. And my little brother was there and went and told on me. And so I went back up to the house, and then my stepmom was there. And she said, were you boys smoking in the barn? And I said, no, I wasn't smoking in the barn.
Starting point is 00:29:07 And so she told my cousin to go on home. And she said, I know your line. Tom told me that you guys were smoking the barn. And I got a, you know, you can't do this today, Rick, but I got a beating on me and a beating, okay? And she said to me, the reason, I mean, it was bad. I mean, I remember that day, this was a scary day. You were traumatized. Yes.
Starting point is 00:29:37 And my stepmom said to me, I'm not giving you this beating for smoking, but for a lion. right but the problem is Rick is to this day I've never smoked but I have lied since then so sometimes fools learn the wrong lesson
Starting point is 00:29:59 right and so in that particular case maybe I was being a bit foolish that day my smoking story is my mother called me smoking behind the garage
Starting point is 00:30:12 and she be me She beat me so hard, Doc. She took her shoe off and beat me with her shit. That's how angry she was at me, you know. But, you know, I never smoked cigarettes after that. I haven't either. I smoke. I smoke cigars.
Starting point is 00:30:34 I smoke joints. But I never smoked a cigarette. But isn't it on that even though we both experienced a thing, you know, I have lied since then. But that was what the punishment was supposedly for. And so, but sometimes fools learn the wrong lesson. And so it's not just the idea of, you know, just receiving correction, but also understanding what you're receiving correction for, the right thing to receive correction for. And oftentimes fools miss the object of the lesson. And so some of our commentators had some thoughts on this too.
Starting point is 00:31:13 right Rick? Yeah, Matthew Henry said one gentle reproof will more affect a wise man than severe correction will a fool. His heart is tender, the other harden, yes. Charles Bridges has this to say the rod breaks the skin, but reproof breaks the heart, yet the fool's heart, though beaten, remains yet unmoved. Wow. Albert Barnes said instruction pierces the wise man's heart. chastisement does not pierce the fools. Yes. Adam Clark had this to say, a hundred strikes cannot reach the fool's soul. His obstinacy makes discipline useless.
Starting point is 00:31:57 One of my favorites, Alexander McLaren, the wise man's conscience is sensitive, the fools is seared. Truth shapes one. Pain hardens the other. Yes. It sounds conscious. contradictory, but it's true. Charles Spurgeon said this. A hint, just a hint, is enough for the
Starting point is 00:32:20 wise. A hundred strokes all within the self-willed and the obstin. In other words, the fool won't get the message, no matter what, because he won't up on himself. But the wise will get it just with a hint. Yeah, just with a look. Yeah. All right, let's go down to verse 11. an evil man seeks only rebellion therefore a cruel messenger shall be sent against him the subtoogen says a rebellious man seeks evil and a stern angel will be sent against him yeah i saw that wow um so in this verse rebellion means more than just disobedience It is a deliberate posture of resistance against God, against God's divine order. That's the rebellion that's being spoken of here.
Starting point is 00:33:22 And so it says that the evil man seeks rebellion. That means it's intentional, it's desired, it's pursued. It's not accidental. The evil man is seeking. He's pursuing rebellion. Well, we've talked about rebellion in the previous verse. It comes from an ungoverned heart, a heart that will not surrender, will not submit to God's will. A heart that refuses to be restrained, to be counseled, to be advised.
Starting point is 00:33:57 It knows no boundaries, and it doesn't want any boundaries. That's the attitude of many. people in the world today, no moral boundaries. None. None. So the rebellious matter woman is not content with sin. The rebellious, see, you can have a sinful person who is pursuing sin, but a rebellious person is after more than sin. A rebellious person wants to, overthrow authority. Right. That's the mindset in a lot of people today.
Starting point is 00:34:47 We have anarchists. We have political anarchists. We have financial anarchists. We have religious anarchists. They want to overthrow the established order. Can I tell you something? Do not associate with anarchists. Do not associate with anarchists.
Starting point is 00:35:07 they represent Satan yes and and I you know people send me videos of they don't know they don't call them anarchists but they send me people online I'll listen to what they're saying it's like that's anarchy I'm not going to I don't want this in my mind I don't want it in my spirit they're promoting anarchy it's against the divine order don't associate with it Because rebellion becomes the evil person's identity. Right. And they just naturally gravitate towards conflict, division, insubordination, and then it goes into sedition.
Starting point is 00:35:54 And we see sedition in America today. That's right. Open sedition. People are openly saying seditious things. Yes. On both sides is the political spectrum. Absolutely. Okay, so
Starting point is 00:36:08 Look, rebellion is moral insanity Rebellion's people choose destruction over obedience. They choose pride over peace. It's like you're out of your mind. Why are you doing this? But it's because
Starting point is 00:36:27 who they're submitted to is Satan. Correct. They'll say that they don't submit to anybody. Actually, they're submitted to Satan because he's he's the first anarchist um but doc it's it at the heart of it rebellion even political rebellion is a spiritual it's a spiritual condition yes it really is and it's a it's a heart that has dethroned god and has put itself on the throne and the reason why the evil being seeks rebellions because he can't bear the idea of
Starting point is 00:37:06 submitting, even submitting to truth. Isn't that the truth? And so rebellion automatically rejects the capability. The rebel wants authority, but no responsibility with it. So, like you said, his inter posture mirrors Satan's original rebellion. Remember, Satan said, I will be like the most high. In other words, I'm going to sit on the throne. That guy doesn't know what he's talking about. It's a refusal to bow to the rightful king. And as we've seen in the past, rebellion can be contagious, Rick. An evil man takes advantage of that. He seeks to spread it, drawing others into insubordination as well.
Starting point is 00:37:50 And so this rebellion begins to warp the conscience. It eventually calls good evil and evil good. And so therefore, scripture teaches that rebellion cannot remain unchallenged. it even said go so far who's calling rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft and it invites the divine response. What was God's response to witchcraft
Starting point is 00:38:12 to utterly destroy and utterly destroy those who practice it? And so, rebellious people fall into that same category. And so we're clear of rebels. I was thinking as you were talking the
Starting point is 00:38:31 you know people who are anarchists anti-authority people whether they're anti-government or anti-church or whatever they're anti-something look at one of the most dangerous groups in America Antifa okay and okay and so they they themselves are anarchists yes but these people who say that they are against authority God have mercy on you
Starting point is 00:39:05 if they ever get authority You can look on the other side of the political spectrum as well There are those that would love to see the current system overthrown And, you know, but what do they offer Anarchy, chaos, rebellions It doesn't matter which
Starting point is 00:39:24 political side We're talking about. What I'm saying is anti-authority people really are lusting after authority. You got it. They're version of it. And they want to be in control. And they want you, you submit to them. Yeah, but they will be cruel and merciless and nasty.
Starting point is 00:39:48 And they're the last people you ever want to be in authority, right? Because they become tyrants. Let's look at the second segment of this. verse, therefore a cruel messenger shall be sent against him. Boy, this is a wake-up call for today's political anarchists. A cruel messenger is an angel. It's an agent of divine justice. earthly
Starting point is 00:40:24 whether it's an earthly representative or a divine heavenly representative it's somebody who is sent to punish the rebellious a messenger
Starting point is 00:40:40 in scripture I mean often it refers to an angel right angels are called messengers but it also can be a police officer it can be a judge it can be a prosecutor it can be a calamity yes it can be trouble what is saying is if you operate in that spirit of rebellion against authority eventually god is going to send a cruel messenger against you to to punish you for your your rebellion what does rebellion remind him of
Starting point is 00:41:20 Satan. Satan was the first anarchist who rebelled against God's authority and happened. So this judgment is not random. The messenger is sent. It's divinely sin. It's intentional judgment to bring punishment against somebody who is
Starting point is 00:41:43 rebelling against the moral order. So it describes it as cruel. A cruel messenger, Doc. I mean, this isn't somebody sent to administer apparently a spanking of, you know, get your knuckles rap. This is a cruel messenger, cruel. Oh, yes. So it speaks of the severity of the punishment that is administered to a person with a hardened heart, a rebellious heart.
Starting point is 00:42:18 It's saying mercy was offered to you, but you rejected mercy, and you persisted in rebellion. Therefore, you're going to be treated correspondingly. Yes. And to the degree of your rebellion, too. Yes. He's not just a messenger, but a cruel messenger. What is the Civil War? A civil war is an uprising in a country against authority.
Starting point is 00:42:57 America's on the verge of civil war. There are people now seeing Great Britain's on the verge of a civil war. I never thought of my lifetime I'd hear talk of civil war in Great Britain. Ray Dalio, a billionaire. He is very concerned about civil war in the United States and the next two to four years we're ripe we're absolutely ripe for civil war right now
Starting point is 00:43:25 people are against each other and families are split over politics over religion I mean they're just everybody is at each other's throats and there's rebellion and this says God sends a cruel messenger
Starting point is 00:43:43 against the people who are promoting that kind of rebellion Doc, what are some of the ways that this cruel messenger may appear? Well, it could be civil authority. It could be divine chastisement, God sent chancisement. It could be a personal dealful. Maybe some sin is exposed in a person's life. Or it just could be providential at first.
Starting point is 00:44:16 diversity of some kind. But what you need to understand, what this verse is saying is, it's not random. It's not something that just happens. It's sent. It's sent. It's delivered. It's like God put a stamp on it and dropped it in the mail, okay, to reflect his opinion on the matter. So the judgment that will arrive for rebellion is going to fit rebellion. The harder, the her, the harder the consequences, both not only in this life, but in our eternal life as well. So we need to understand that this phrase emphasizes that there is a certainty to the judgment of God. Rebellion rebels will not escape the judgment of God. God will send somebody or something to confront it. And we see this over and over again in the Old Testament. Prophets continue to say that God often
Starting point is 00:45:13 sent messengers of wrath to correct nations and individuals alike. And so how does the rebel respond to this? Well, the rebel perceives the messenger as cruel, but really the cruelty is in his own heart and his own resistance. And so this divine judgment that comes about is not because of some vindictiveness of God, but he desires for this to be a corrected measure, a righteous measure in the rebel's life. But one thing is for sure, rebellion cannot coexist with divine authority. And so the rebel recruits his own destroyer, and God makes sure that justice is served as a result. Amen. Doc, I shared this story with you a couple months ago. I don't think I've ever told it publicly. Maybe I have.
Starting point is 00:46:13 But a few years ago, the Lord was speaking to me about the financial storm that's coming to the world. And there is, we're right at the doors. Folks, personally, I am convinced 2026 is the beginning of the financial storm. I am convinced. And it will go through 2027, 2028. it will be a two to three year financial storm. I'm not afraid. I'm not worried.
Starting point is 00:46:48 The Lord meets my needs. He'll cover me. I said, why are we teaching faith so that the church will go through the storm? Okay. But this is what the Lord said to me a couple of years ago. He was talking to me about the storm that's coming. And he said, Rick,
Starting point is 00:47:03 there will be people that you know, that you care about. you will look out now this is symbolically he's saying you will look out your window you're inside your home in your shelter protected from the storm it's just symbolically he said you're going to look out your window and you're going to see people in the streets that you know you love you care about and they are in the storm unprotected and he said it's your nature to go out in the storm
Starting point is 00:47:44 and rescue them and bring them into your shelter he said that's your nature and he said and I'm telling you not to do it Doc when he said it to me I was so shocked because it was against everything that's in my being which is if I see somebody hurting somebody in need I will do anything to help them
Starting point is 00:48:05 right but the Lord told me He said, you will be interfering with my plan. They will be in the storm because of their rebellion. And I do not want you to interrupt, interfere with my discipline. And you're going to have to allow them to stay in the storm. That was so hard for me to comprehend and to accept several years ago when he said it to me. I said, oh, this is going to, I don't know if I can do this, you know. But now I understand.
Starting point is 00:48:43 It's amazing after several years of morning manna how the word has gotten inside of me and now I understand what he's saying, right? Like, you've got people in your life that deep down they're rebels. Okay, and you know it, but you'll love. love them anyhow. But you're going to have to let them stay in the storm. That's right. They have to be taught. They have to be taught the lesson. Okay. It's going to be difficult for all of this. I want to go down to the quotes Matthew Henry, rebels are the devil's agent and God will send his messengers to deal with them. Severity is needed where mildness has been despised.
Starting point is 00:49:29 Yes. Charles Bridges had this to say, rebellion is treason against God. They're Therefore, the punishment is certain. The messenger of wrath follows hard after the rebellious. I was just thinking, you know, a lot of people, again, I'm talking about our country, America. They throw that word around a lot, treason. That person over there is guilty of treason. You know, they ought to be taken to the gallows and hanged, you know. They ought to be executed.
Starting point is 00:50:01 They're guilty of treason. Well, how many so-called patriots are guilty of treason against God? Yes. They need to stop and think about it. Are they in submission to God? Because it says, rebellion is treason, therefore the punishment is certain. The messenger of wrath follows hard after the rebellious.
Starting point is 00:50:28 Albert Barnes said the rebellious man provokes judgment of stern executioner will be dispatched to meet his stubbornness and executioner. Those who seek rebellion, this is Adam Clark speaking here. Those who seek rebellion call for the
Starting point is 00:50:45 messenger of destruction. They summon the very rod that spites them. Alexander McLaren said he that sets himself against divine order, draws upon himself the angel a retribution. Yes.
Starting point is 00:51:03 And Charles Spurgeon had a different take on this. He said, Rebellion is a moth that eats the garment of the soul. Swift comes the messenger that tears the cloth to punish the offender. What a word picture that is, Rick.
Starting point is 00:51:19 Rebellion is a moth that eats the garment of the soul. Yes. Again, I can only imagine what it was like to sit in the churches of these men 150 years ago and to listen to them thunder from their pulpits. Yes. John Calvin said God raises up
Starting point is 00:51:42 avengers against rebellious, for he will not permit his authority to be insulted with impunity. Yes. I want to go to verse 12. Let a bear robbed of her whelps meet a man rather than a fool in his folly. a subtuogen says let a man meet a bear robbed of her cubs and not a fool engaged in his folly
Starting point is 00:52:10 so you'd be better off tangling with a mother bear who can't find her who can't find her cubs than a fool well a bear robber
Starting point is 00:52:28 of her cubs, you know, it is one of the, one of the most dangerous images that you can think of. Fierce, enraged, uncontrollable. When you take a, you take a cub away from a mother bear, she is going to shred you to pieces. Yes. She's going to get her cub back. I just had one of these memories, my grandmother remember telling me that when she was, I don't know, she was a little girl, I don't know, 10 or 12 years old, she saw a bear cub outside their farmhouse and she went, she opened the gate of the yard and went out in the field and picked up the bear cub to bring it in to play with it. She found a toy, all right? A little bear cup.
Starting point is 00:53:26 And she said she remembers her mother, talking about my grandmother's mother, my great-grandmother, grieving and yelling, drop the bear, drop the bear, you know. And my grandmother says she just kept running towards the house with that little bear cub. Like, I'm not going to let go with this little bear cup. It's cute. And her mother was yelling, drop the bear, drop the bear. And finally my grandmother turned around and looked behind. her and the mother was charging
Starting point is 00:53:54 behind her. The mother bear. The mother bear was charging my grandmother, okay? It says she dropped the bear cub and ran, you know, and of course the mother bear stopped when she got her cub back. But that's just it. This
Starting point is 00:54:13 is saying you'd be better off fighting a mother bear over her cubs than trying to correct a fool. You're just going to get tangled. It's a, it's a, this is not a mild warning. It, this is a description of the maximum threat level that the kind of danger that a sane person would, would never fade. Look, I think about this now, I think, how stupid I was in the past. to try to tangle with a fool.
Starting point is 00:54:55 Yes. With that idiot. We're trying to correct a fool. We bear off wrestling a bomb a bear. I mean, really, we don't have to say anything else about this verse. Because the mother bear will be vicious. Okay. And, you know, the mother bear, she's not acting out of malice.
Starting point is 00:55:17 She's not acting out of anything. But it's predictable. It's understandable. The bear is acting out of instinct because she is protecting her cub. And even though it may be a little girl or a little boy that may have the cup, it doesn't matter just by the bear. She just sees a threat to her cub. So when you have a fool in your life, a rebellious, stubborn fool, back off.
Starting point is 00:55:50 Just let them be full. I know it's hard, particularly when it's somebody that we love. It when it's somebody in our family, a friend, a coworker. But when you discern that that person is a fool, a stubborn, hard-hearted, rebellious person, let them alone. And that's the message the Lord was giving me about the coming storm. Rick, when you see these. people out there in the storm don't go out you know what doc that just realized what he was showing me
Starting point is 00:56:27 you you go out in the storm to rescue you rescue them and they're going to turn on you yeah they're going to turn on you as you try to rescue them they're going to fight you as you try to rescue them from the storm let them in the storm just let them alone let god deal with them if God can't reach them. How are you going to reach them? Boy, that is the word right there, Rick. You're not the Holy Spirit, Jr. If the Holy Spirit can't penetrate their heart,
Starting point is 00:57:01 how are you going to do it? Amen. So the verse is just saying some people just need to be left alone. Then the second part here, then a fool in his folly. Okay. It's saying that the fool is more dangerous than an enraged bear. all right that's that's the bottom line of this first that the fool will cause chaos conflict division strife lies slander you try to correct a fool and they'll shred you to pieces that's the message here if you try to correct a rebellious stubborn fool he or she will shred your life to pieces through slander lies a Tax, division, strife, all kinds of things.
Starting point is 00:57:52 They'll come against you. Yes. Just leave them alone. Amen. Put distance between you and a fool. Because nothing good is going to come out of it. There's absolutely nothing good is going to come out of you engaging with a fool.
Starting point is 00:58:09 You just have to back off and let them alone. DACA, you know, we think that a fool is ignorant, but that's really not what it is. It's beyond ignorance. They're committed. Committed to what? Being ignorant? Committed to rebellion.
Starting point is 00:58:33 Committed to their rebellions. They're rebellion. Yes. That's right. They're sold out to rebellion. That's where their loyalty is. And what you got to watch is folly is contagious, stop. Yes.
Starting point is 00:58:54 You hang around foolish people. You'll get that stuff on you. Yeah, you'll get that stink on you, as they used to say. Just what? You'll get that stink on you, as they used to say. That's right. Just one encounter can draw the person that's not watching can draw them into conflict,
Starting point is 00:59:12 draw them into sin, draw them into catastrophe. Wherever fools are, there's trouble, okay? Avoid the foolish. Avoid them. Avoid rebels. Avoid those who refuse to submit to God, to the Word, to family authority, to spiritual authority. Avoid them like the plague.
Starting point is 00:59:35 Avoid them like a mama bear hunt for her baby cub. Be polite, be courteous. but be gone, engage them, and then be gone. Albert Barnes said the uncontrollable violence of folly. Listen to that. The uncontrollable violence of folly is more destructive than even the rage of wild beast. Right. Charles Bridges said that the bear's rage is fierce, but it's nature.
Starting point is 01:00:07 The fool's rage is worse than the bear's rage, Rick, because it is wickedness. It's a choice. Alexander McLaren said there is no fury like the fool's folly. It is blind, reckless, and morally ruined us. I've never really, I've never really pondered the danger of engaging with fools. Yes. It draws you down, doesn't it? I mean, think about your...
Starting point is 01:00:41 We've made plenty of encounters with fools, Rick. But this is saying you're going to get hurt. Yes. And isn't that the case? I mean, think about it. You're not going to get a merit bad for trying to reform a fool. No, you're going to get your little Boy Scout uniform ripped off of here. Okay.
Starting point is 01:01:05 That's what this is saying. The fool will turn on you. Yes. The fool will go after you. the fool will rip your life apart. Yeah, and Charles Brin summed it up like this, Rick, he said, the bear may rend the body, tear apart the body, but the fool will tear apart your soul.
Starting point is 01:01:23 It's better, you're better off facing the beast than the ungoverned madman. That's his quote. You're better off getting your torn limb from limb from a bear than to encounter a fool because they'll tear your limb from limb on the inside. I was like, you know, all these great preachers of the past, they learned this by experience. Yes.
Starting point is 01:01:49 You can the issue of Charles Spurgeon in his earlier days. He encountered some fools. And he learned, I'm not going to do that again. All right, one more verse. Verse 13, who so reward of evil for good, evil shall not depart from his house. The Aramaic Peshida
Starting point is 01:02:15 says, he who repays evil for good, evil shall never leave his house. Yes. This is another somber warning. Because never is a long time. Never is a long
Starting point is 01:02:33 time, Doc. It doesn't say he who repays evil for good, evil will hang around your house for a year or two. It says never. Whoever rewards evil for good, okay? You do good things for people and they flip it around and they do evil things to you, right?
Starting point is 01:02:59 It's not just something you've accidentally done. You've done it purposely, right? Yes. It is a monstrous level in gratitude of returning evil when somebody showed you kindness. Now, I probably could, I could stay here, Doc, you know. He's been with me now, what, 11 years? Almost 12. 12. 12 in a month.
Starting point is 01:03:28 Almost 12. Yeah. And you've seen this in real time. you've seen me do good things and you've seen people the people i help you've seen them turn on me it doesn't make sense it does but in the light of these verses it makes perfect sense why they're fools yes and the rebels yes okay the the real sin is betrayal yeah somebody does something for somebody else and the person, the recipient of that goodness, betrays the person who did the good.
Starting point is 01:04:11 Yes. How many in this class, how many of you right now are saying, oh, I know what this is like. You've been burned. You did good things for certain people, and they turned on you. And to this day, are bad-mouthing you.
Starting point is 01:04:32 Yeah. And never acknowledging any of them, of the good things that you did for them. Yeah. It is shocking. So to return evil for good reveals a heart that is morally upside down. It's just inside out. It's upside down.
Starting point is 01:04:52 It's a heart that prefers darkness over light. It's, I mean, it's, and in it is a spirit of treachery. Yes. You know, Doc, in the old, covenant. Look how many times God called Israel a treacherous wife. Yes. Covenant breaker. He referred to Israel as a treacherous wife saying, I can't trust you. You're treacherous. You do evil things against me behind my back. Now, you can't do anything against God behind his back because he's got eyes on his back. That's right.
Starting point is 01:05:35 You see everything. Well, what he's saying to Israel is that you think you, you think you did these things behind my back. You're treacherous, you're sneaky, you're vicious. That's what this is implying here. People that take advantage of you, play on your, on your heart, on your, your generosity, your goodness. They take advantage of you, they lead you to help them, and then they turn around and turn on you. I don't understand it, Doc.
Starting point is 01:06:07 I absolutely do not understand. I don't, I can't comprehend ever saying an unkind word about somebody who did good to me. I just can't comprehend it. I don't know how that happens. You know, it's
Starting point is 01:06:27 the treachery actually ends up harming the very one who has offered help, right? It's hurting the person that's being kind. What is it teaching us?
Starting point is 01:06:46 The scripture is identifying this ingratitude, this treachery, as the seed of apostasy. It rejects God's goodness and despises mercy.
Starting point is 01:07:01 Doc, I got to the point where I was able you know to go to my father and say I was helping this person now this person's turned against me and saying bad things about me and everything and you know how I got over
Starting point is 01:07:23 it? The Lord said yeah I've had a lot of people do that to me too think about it over thousands of years, how many humans did God bless? And then they turned around and turned against him and completely forgot about his goodness. And he said, they're treacherous. They're just treacherous. So again, here's another lesson to learn.
Starting point is 01:07:56 There are people in your life and you love them, you care about them, and you're going to help them, and they're going to help them. And they're going to turn out to hurt you, right? I don't understand it. I don't get it. The problem isn't with you. It's with them. It reveals the evil that's in their heart.
Starting point is 01:08:18 Yeah. It's so sad. So evil being repaid for good as an assault on the relationship and on the trust of a covenant. It destroys the very fabric of righteousness. So you know that your conscience has to be seared, Rick, for a person or someone who's helped them. It reveals the darkness that goes on in their soul and in their mind. And such a person misreads kindness as an opportunity for an advantage, exploiting goodness rather than honoring. I talked about this a little bit last week with David and his son Absalom.
Starting point is 01:08:57 Absalom, by all rights, should have been the next king of Israel after David. But David, I mean, Absalom was offended by the way that David dealt with the rape of Absalom's sister by her half-brother. And Absalom ended up killing his half-brother. And so it would be, even in the natural, David would have been very upset. But you know what David did, Rick? David, even after Absalom fled away from David, it says that David mourned for him every day, right? He mourned for him every day.
Starting point is 01:09:40 And through Joab and through the woman in Tocoa, David agreed to let Absalom return to Jerusalem, showed him with kindness. And at first, David had a decree that Absom couldn't see the king's face for two years, but within about, I think it was about two or three months, David summoned Absalom. And it even says that Absalom prostrated himself before David.
Starting point is 01:10:09 And that David kissed him, showing that forgiveness and that restored relationship. And so you had this magnanimous gesture by King David to his son Absent, who had killed his half-brother. you know, in a rage. But what did Absalom do with that reconciliation? Well, he used that to his advantage and led a rebellion against his father. So that's a lesson to us that sometimes a kindness can backfire. We have to be very discerting in showing this,
Starting point is 01:10:52 because sometimes that foolishness gets so deep. into a darkened heart and it just it'll reject justice it'll reject mercy it'll reject grace right and it's a denial of the goodness of God
Starting point is 01:11:09 because Absalom wasn't just rejecting David he was rejecting God the Father and the Father's forgiveness in all of this and so Absalom went and turned and repaid evil for good against his father
Starting point is 01:11:26 Doug, do you think people that turn against others who do good for them, do you think that they see the generous person as being weak? Probably, yes, yes. Like, hey, you're weak. You're actually a weak person. You gave me this money. You gave me these things. You fixed my problems, whatever. You're actually weak.
Starting point is 01:11:52 I'm strong. and now I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to beat up on you because you're weak yes I don't know if that's the way they think it's so bizarre to me or they're so blinded by their hate
Starting point is 01:12:08 and by their you know their need for what they think of justice for revenge or whatever it might be that even grace and mercy cannot reach them it's saying and sometimes these people
Starting point is 01:12:21 these people are people that read now we're talking about repaying evil for good okay so sometimes i think these people are um what's the word are the words i want to use here their ingratitude is is driven again i think because they they see the giver as a as a weak person as hey if you were if you were as strong as me you would never you would never give up that money
Starting point is 01:13:04 you would never do the things that you did therefore I can take advantage of you I think there's a lot of manipulation here doc that the evil is manipulation I'm manipulating you to do these good things for me. And then after you do it, I'm going to kick dirt in your face.
Starting point is 01:13:27 Again, I don't get it. I would say, Doc, I would say, oh, there's nobody like that. And yet we met him, Evanwick. I've met a lot of them. Oh, my goodness. I have met a lot of them. And every time I say,
Starting point is 01:13:47 how does that happen again? and I'm asking people allow a hurt or an offense to grow and develop fester rather than take care of it deal with it or own up to it or whatever it might but you know what doc what it's doing for me is it's forcing me to ask the Lord what am I missing in discernment for me too where am I going wrong am I am missing something in discernment, that I should have discerned that this person was not worthy of getting this blessing, right? Am I allowing, am I allowing compassion and kindness, or what I perceive to be compassion and kindness to blind me to discernment in my life? But then, but then here's the
Starting point is 01:14:39 other way to look at it. Is God using your generosity to bless that person, knowing that they're going to be treacherous and repay you evil for good in order to teach them a lesson, right? Is he setting them up for a lesson? Because the next part, evil shall not depart from his house. This isn't, Solomon wasn't being poetic here. He's serious.
Starting point is 01:15:18 this is a divine sentence he said you will have evil in your house the rest of your life you are sentencing yourself to ongoing calamity evil shall not depart
Starting point is 01:15:38 it means it has lasting consequences there's trouble disorder conflict judgment spiritual darkness ongoing just trouble so the person
Starting point is 01:15:58 who's so betrayal reaps calamity and the punishment is equal to the crime it's ongoing and they can't escape it
Starting point is 01:16:16 So the verse is telling us the sin of repaying, giving somebody evil for the good that they did brings about a cycle of judgment. It's like you get in a washing machine cycle and you're just going around and around. You can't get out of it, okay? That evil becomes part of your life. Again, that's a very sobering thought that you could bring that into your life or somebody living with you could bring that into their life. Yes.
Starting point is 01:17:01 But there's this punishment, this ongoing evil, it takes, you know, it takes on a lot of different forms. Yes. Relationships. failed endeavors, inner turmoil, chasing by God. Sometimes their home is a reflection of our hurt. Our hurts will breed a treacherous environment. And God ensures that consequences match to severity of the sin.
Starting point is 01:17:37 Evil remains until repentance breaks the cycle. So this phrase here, Rick, applies a divine opposition that the Lord withhold blessing from a house that returns evil for good. So the punishment is not arbitrary. It's not just saying, well, I'm just going to punish it. No, it's
Starting point is 01:17:55 the betrayal poisons the soul and corrupt the environment it inhabits. So evil not departing signifies that treachery creates a wound in family and community life. And so this proverb serves as a warning. One act
Starting point is 01:18:12 we're paying evil for good to consider a household on the path of ruin. You know, it came across a passage of scripture over the holiday break here recently, Rick, Leviticus 14. And Leviticus 14 has this big, long section in it, talking about what to do if your house gets leprosy. Okay. I don't know how many times I've read that passage, you know, over the course of my lifetime. It's never made an impact on me until recent. And I read that this time, and the Lord brought to my remembrance that if you allow a little bit of mold into the home, and that's what the leprosy was, mold got into the stucco and the plaster of a home, and if you let it go long enough, you ended up, the priest would come and have to condemn the home. And if you don't deal with the the little bit of sin, that little bit of leprosy, that little bit of mold in the house, right when you first see it, the whole house is going to be infected, the whole house is going to be destroyed. And my takeaway from that was that you have got to deal with any of these issues front and center right on.
Starting point is 01:19:29 You have to, you know, not be kind about it. If you find mold in your house, you're not going to say, well, I'm going to be kind to the mold. Maybe it'll go away or maybe it'll heal itself. No, you've got to destroy it or it's going to destroy the whole house. And so, you know, if you allow the evil to continue, the fool is going to take advantage of that and take advantage of the kindness and the mercy and grace. that you are extending but also that God
Starting point is 01:20:03 is extending to them as well so that was a big lesson for me Rick oh that is a profound insight that if you that if you you extend
Starting point is 01:20:19 kindness to a fool a fool that's in your family the fool's going to turn on you yeah and hasn't that happened over and over again in our lives and i just look back over my life and all the times that people have betrayed me it's usually after kindness i don't know what it is maybe it maybe kindness draws out the betrayal i don't know all I know is now we have a passage of scripture that tells us how to respond to that,
Starting point is 01:20:57 how to deal with it, or at least how to acknowledge that it happens. And the reality that Solomon dealt with it too. He saw it too. He saw it in his father's life. He saw it in his life. He observed it among others that this sometimes kindness generates betrayal. It doesn't mean stop being kind. It does mean we have to be discerning in that kindness and in that grace and mercy that we extend that we don't withhold because, well, I don't want to get burned, but rather that we are discerning with it.
Starting point is 01:21:38 What I heard so loud when you were speaking was the failure to deal with the mold the first time it appears. Yeah, we look over, don't we? You're supposed to get the bleach. bottle out then. And bleach it and remove it before it spreads in the house. Yes.
Starting point is 01:22:01 Are you saying that leprosy is connected to mold? Well, in leprosy, some of the translations translated as mold. And so, and everybody knows today what mold is. It'd get mold in
Starting point is 01:22:14 your house. You have to, sometimes you have to tear out entire walls to get rid of the mold if you don't deal with it, especially after a flood. or you've had some leak of some kind in your home. And some homes can get so much mold that the house itself, the whole house, has to be condemned. And so that was what I was related to with Leviticus 14.
Starting point is 01:22:35 It just cost me a couple thousand dollars a few months ago. I was having some air conditioning repairs done. And the AC technician told me, he said, sir, you've got a lot of mold up there. Yeah. around that unit he showed me i said oh dear mark it costs you know it costs a couple thousand dollars to remove it and to install the lights and everything i i didn't know was there growing yeah and it's it's insidious isn't it it's you don't see it you might see uh you know you don't
Starting point is 01:23:10 see it generally you don't see the damning but it can get in your lungs right and destroy you and hurt you well let's see what matthew henry had to say he said there is no mark of a vile mind than to render evil for good, God will repay such ingratitude with abiding trouble. Yes. Charles Bridges said,
Starting point is 01:23:32 this is a diabolical wickedness. As surely as day follows night, the curse follows the man who returns evil for kindness. Albert Barnes said, The household of the ungrateful becomes the dwelling
Starting point is 01:23:48 place of calamity. Yes. Judgment waits at their door. Wow. Adam Clark, evil, once son takes root and remains. Betraying goodness invites continual misery. Alexander McLaren, to wound the hand that helps is to summon judgment. The blow recoils upon the house of the traitor. Yes. Charles Pergian said, if a man renders evil for good, evil shall haunt him.
Starting point is 01:24:19 his house shall be a den of sorrow and john calvin said god ordains that the ungrateful be played for such perverse justice cries out for his judgment amen all right well that's all for today thank you so much as always we we appreciate you staying with us for such a long time over an hour every day to study the word of god you are to be commended i wish i could meet every one of you and give you a hug and a pat on the back and thank you because it is a blessing. Doc and I appreciate you so much that you devote an hour five days a week to allow us to teach the work. This is what we're called to do, but a teacher can only teach if there's enough, if there are students. I mean, you can't teach if there's an empty classroom. Amen. A teacher would be
Starting point is 01:25:19 depressed and unable to function in life if he or she went to an empty classroom every day. Right. So to see a classroom full of people is very encouraging and it's joyful. We appreciate seeing so many people appear in this online class. Remember, we're making changes this month. I'm giving you more details as the days go by. We've got a brand new platform coming out at the end of this month. and it will continue to be improved and enlarged
Starting point is 01:25:53 and, you know, we're going to have to do a lot of building even after we unveil it. The house will not be complete. That's all I can say. All the rooms won't be painted, Doc. There's still going to be some tarps on the floor. There are going to be some ladders in the rooms. We're going to do our best to get as many rooms.
Starting point is 01:26:17 open as we can, but it's not going to be complete unless, unless God does a work of grace here that, and I'm not ruling it out. All right. I'm not rolling it out. The Lord still has three or four weeks to go. And, you know, he did the whole universe in six days, so he can build our platform in three more weeks. So anyhow, we thank you for being here. God bless you. Don't forget us for this year. Now, this is the last. month of the year we need your financial support i will tell you folks people who are going to get through this storm that's coming in 2026 they're not going to be the people who don't give that's right you know why they're rebellious non-givers are rebellious at the heart of it is rebellion yes
Starting point is 01:27:11 i'm not giving i'm not trusting god i'm not giving up my money. That's rebellion. Yeah, it is. It's rebellion. Don't be rebellious. The rebels are going to be punished in this storm. Be a giver and do your best in December to bless this ministry. We need your help. And God will richly reward you and bless you for doing good. We're doing good. We promise not to do it. evil against you for doing good. All right. We're going to pick back verse 14 tomorrow on the Wednesday edition of Morning Manor. And we are so encouraged that you take a time out of your schedule every day to join us for
Starting point is 01:28:02 this Bible study with disciples all over the world. We're so blessed by that, aren't we right? Yes, we are. Take care. See you tomorrow. God bless you.

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