TRUNEWS with Rick Wiles - MWC2025 Prediction: Your AI-Phone Will be Inside You by 2030

Episode Date: March 4, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:31 Because strength comes from smart preparation. American Reserves, your ally in emergency readiness. Visit our website and become prepared today. I'm going to go ahead and get started. Do the research. Ask questions. Be curious. Those who can imagine anything can create the impossible. Welcome to True News from Barcelona, Spain, Mobile World Congress 2025. And it's been quite a day with me here, Dr. Raymond Burkhart and Paul Benson and Eric Rodriguez, and all four of us have fanned out across many thousands of square feet of exhibit space and educational sessions. We've been in sessions
Starting point is 00:02:56 since the time we got here this morning. And it's a lot. We've got a lot to share with you. We're going gonna focus today on just two speakers. And because what they said is so powerful, don't agree with it, but we want you to know what was said here. The first one we're gonna talk about is Ray Kurzweil, computer scientist, futurist, many of you know that about is Ray Kurzweil, computer scientist, futurist.
Starting point is 00:03:27 Many of you know that name, Ray Kurzweil, and he spoke to the conference here today. And then we're also going to spend a few minutes talking about Scott Galloway, a college professor, podcaster, author, and he had some provocative things to say about the United States of America. So with Ray Kurzweil, what we're going to do is show you, we're going to show you a segment of his presentation to Mobile World Congress. And then we're going to come back and discuss it because he said some really far out amazing things. I want you to listen carefully to dates.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Take note of the dates, the years. He gives you some very clear time markers of where they expect to take the world and when. So listen closely to the dates that he gives you. This is one of the reasons that we come to Mobile World Congress. And you're gonna hear that date 2030, the 2030s. It's coming up a lot over and over and over and over.
Starting point is 00:04:39 Some big things are planned in the 2030s. So let's do this. Let's watch the Ray Kurzweil video, and then we'll come back and we'll discuss it. I'm honored to join you at Mobile World Congress to talk about AI and the pretty remarkable future ahead. I believe we're living through the most fascinating years in the entire history of mankind, humankind. We're at the knee of the curve when AI is about to change our lives forever. It may feel like it's coming out of nowhere, but this has been a long time in the making. Artificial general intelligence will be here by 2029 and the lines between technology
Starting point is 00:05:30 and the humans are beginning to blur. Computation that once filled a building now fits in a smartphone, will soon fit in a blood cell, will be actually far more powerful than it is today. This is how we're going to fully merge with AI. To understand the future, we need to remember how we got here. So let me back up a little and start there. I've actually worked in AI actually for 63 years, uh, longer than anyone else alive.
Starting point is 00:06:05 Someone might get up and say, oh, I've been in it for 64 years, but we're waiting for that. I got involved when I was 14, six years after the term artificial intelligence was coined by Marvin Minsky, who was my mentor, John McCarthy at a 1956 conference at Dartmouth College.
Starting point is 00:06:27 As my career as an inventor took off, I began tracking computation, timed the release of my inventions, and discovered that it was advancing exponentially. I noticed back in 1983, before anybody knew it was happening. Since 1939, the price performance of computation has grown exponentially despite wars, economic shifts,
Starting point is 00:06:57 and the hardware measured. Of the smooth exponential trends spans several different technologies, electromechanical relays is where it started, vacuum tubes, transistors, integrated circuits. When you look at this chart, you can't see where one type of hardware begins and another one ends. It continues regardless whether there is war or peace.
Starting point is 00:07:26 We went through one world war during this period. Went from 0.00007 calculations per second per constant dollar with the Zusut computer in 1939, which Hitler ignored, to half a trillion calculations per second per constant dollar with the Nvidia chip today, that's a 75 quadrillion fold increase in the amount of computation you get for the same price. We also have software gains on top of that. The actual overall computation gain is hardware time software. So we sometimes have millions of quadrillion fold increase in computational
Starting point is 00:08:13 efficiency. I used this data in 1999 to predict that computers would reach human level intelligence by 2029. Based on this prediction, Stanford organized a conference in 2000, and several hundred AI experts came to it. About 80% there agreed with me that we would reach AGI, but they thought it would take 100 years. That was the consensus. I was the only person that felt it would take, it happened by 2029 and 30 years. But today that projection is actually pessimistic
Starting point is 00:08:54 with some saying it will happen even sooner. AI is about to leap from the digital to the physical world. I'll give you a few examples. In medicine, AI is simulating biology. Moderna used a range of AI tools to help design and optimize mRNA sequences, found the COVID vaccine in two days. Soon AI will drive more intensive bio-simulations, testing billions of molecular sequences,
Starting point is 00:09:29 find solutions basically to all diseases over the next number of years, like cancer, Alzheimer's, and aging itself. AI is unlocking genetic data, like DeepMind's Alpha Fold discovering 200 million protein shapes in 2022. I'll just give you just two of the recent breakthroughs that did not exist a while ago that have to do with me. I'm concerned with heart disease, yet drugs like Rapatha, which is fairly recent,
Starting point is 00:10:02 have provided me with an LDL, the bad cholesterol that is 10 today, and HDL, the good cholesterol that's 64, that's quite unheard of, to show that I have no amount of plaque. So heart disease is no longer a concern for me. I've had diabetes, but today I have an artificial pancreas that exists outside my body. It's just like a real pancreas. In fact, I can show you that if you look at this module here, that actually detects the glucose in my body.
Starting point is 00:10:38 It works just like a real pancreas. Over the next few years, we will see even more medical breakthroughs driven by AI. These exponential breakthroughs are going to lead us to what we call longevity escape velocity by around 2032, where you'll be adding more time to your remaining life expectancy than is going by. Right now, as you live through a year, you use up a year of your life expectancy. However, if you're diligent about health care and nutrition, you can get back as much as four months per year today from breakthroughs in scientific understanding.
Starting point is 00:11:21 But by 2032, when you live through a year, you'll get back an entire year from scientific progress if you follow it carefully. And beyond that point, you'll get back more than a year for every year that you live. So you'll be going backwards in time as far as your health is concerned. This won't guarantee immortality. You could still die in an accident, but it will solve aging as we know it. We're also going to overcome accidents. Today, about 40,000 people die a year in the United States from people driving cars, similar in Europe.
Starting point is 00:11:59 By the time cars drive themselves, which they're beginning to do, this will be cut dramatically. Self-driving cars are being used. The number of accidents is close to zero. These medical breakthroughs aren't going to happen in a vacuum. AI is going to transform everything all at once,
Starting point is 00:12:20 take energy, for example. The earth receives 10,000 times our energy needs from sunlight and energy from solar is increasing exponentially. So the cost of solar cells per watt has dropped 99.7% since 1975, increasing usage two million fold. In 2023, DeepMind's GNOME found 421,000 new stable inorganic compounds to use in technology.
Starting point is 00:12:56 So with AI optimized designs and these new compounds, solar is on track to dominate within a decade. As AI spreads through every industry, the true value of products will be the information they contain. We've seen this evolution, for example, in music industry shifting from records to data files. The same will happen for all products,
Starting point is 00:13:22 housing, clothing, everything that we use. As AI spreads through every industry, information technologies, 50% annual deflation rate will drive down the cost of everything. Technology is both an economic and an information leveler. The smartest systems that were once exclusive to governments are now accessible on the internet to everyone for a small subscription fee.
Starting point is 00:13:51 And they're used all over the world. In the 2030s, we'll be able to connect our brains directly to the cloud. People like to compare what we can do with our brains directly to what AI can do. But AI is not a brain extender that compare what we can do with our brains directly to what AI can do. But AI is not a brain extender that comes from Mars. It is something that humans have created.
Starting point is 00:14:13 It's already extending our brains. Almost everyone here has a smartphone that extends our brains. That was not true 15 years ago. People did not carry these things around. By the 2030s, it won't be a device that you have to remember to bring with you. You won't actually know whether the instance that your brain appears to present to you are coming from your biological brain or the AI extender that is within us. It'll all be the same source. The risks of AI are real. it'll all be the same source. The risks of AI are real,
Starting point is 00:14:45 they must be taken seriously, but I believe we are doing that. For example, AI hallucinations, they're still there, but are becoming much less frequent. And AI is actually much more reliable now than it was a year ago, or two years ago. That will continue. Also, as AI
Starting point is 00:15:08 creates new technical threats, it will radically enhance our ability to deal with those threats. Social networks, which are great, but they are the output of people, many of them unenhanced, comprise a lot of the inaccuracy of online information. As large language models are becoming more accurate, which they are, it is improving accuracy, although it can be used inaccurately, such as with deep fakes. But overall, as large language models get more accurate, we're greatly increasing our intelligence. It may not seem that way, but we are much wealthier than we were a while ago.
Starting point is 00:15:52 In America, we made 10 times as much constant dollars as we did 100 years ago, and the same is true of Europe. Europeans have experienced similar increase. AI is going to do the same thing in the future. I estimate that the singularity, when we will expand our intelligence a million fold over our unenhanced capability will take place in 20 years. Today, that's a conservative estimate.
Starting point is 00:16:24 We are the species that increases our ability to positively affect our surroundings with our technology. No other species on the planet is able to do this. AI will bring this capability to all humans. Thank you. Okay, you just heard what we heard a few hours ago. Ray Kurzweil, a futurist, computer scientist. Doc, I don't know if you recall, he wrote a book in 1999 titled,
Starting point is 00:16:56 The Age of Spiritual Machines. The age of spiritual machines. Mr. Kurzweil is Jewish, he's agnostic, he does not believe that humans have souls. And when he was asked, is there a God, his reply was, not yet. Not yet. not yet. Not yet. Not yet. Wow. That's significant.
Starting point is 00:17:29 Yes. So he's telling you there's going to be a man-made God. It's going to be an AI God. So he said that removing, he said that he predicted 30 years ago that we would cross a threshold by 2029. And he said, everybody else who was questioned then, the other scientists 30 years ago, all said that we would need 100 years to reach that threshold. But what he was saying was he was right. Yes, it was actually, uh, 2029 was actually a few years off. Yes, we're not quite there yet, but we're getting there. Um, the thing that really, I mean, stunned me was he said me, was he said, by 2030, you are not going to know if the thoughts in your head are your own thoughts or the thoughts of AI.
Starting point is 00:18:36 Now, let me tell you why that was so stunning to me. One year ago, we attended this Mobile World Congress. And when I went home, several nights later, after returning back to Florida, I was asleep. It was probably two, three o'clock in the morning. And the Holy Spirit was speaking to me in my sleep. And the Holy Spirit told me two things, study generative AI. And we're not going to talk about it here. It's everywhere here today.
Starting point is 00:19:19 Generative AI. That's a term you should learn. The second thing the Holy Spirit told me in my sleep was that AI will be inside of us. And Doc, Paul, Eric, I remember that night in my sleep, I remember wrestling with that concept in my sleep. Like I couldn't fully comprehend what the Lord was saying to me. But I remember saying, I understand you're saying AI is gonna be inside people. Well, today we just heard Ray Kurzweil say,
Starting point is 00:20:03 AI is gonna be in you. Yes. You're not going to access AI. You're going to merge with AI. That's right. How, how, how is that going to happen? How are they going to get AI inside people? Is it so? Got an idea, Paul? Well, you know, with with Neuralink, developed
Starting point is 00:20:32 by Elon Musk, they're able to read input and output from the brain. So I would imagine at some point, there's going to be another extension of that technology along with 5g that's going to be able to connect us to the internet and therefore to AI I think that's the connection it's incredible he's thinking that this is possible within the next five years but I guess the way things are going it probably is yeah because you he, he held up his phone and said, you're not going to carry this, right? It's going to be inside you.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Your phone is going to be inside you. You're going to make calls from inside your being. You're going to access information inside you. AI is going to be in you. You're going to ask AI questions. You're going to get the answers. But he was saying, this thing's going to be, you're going to be so intermeshed with AI
Starting point is 00:21:41 that you won't be able to figure out if you had the thought or AI gave the thought to you. That's right. Hey, Rick, something I heard today in another session, a little off shoot of this is a guy from Meadow was talking about the new Ray-Ban glasses and he used the word that AI and these wearable products are going to add to our current senses, our hearing, our touch, our smell, our taste. And it's going to make us, if you use the word superhuman,
Starting point is 00:22:12 that's right. As you're, as you're talking right now, and as like I'm reflecting on what Ray is saying, I almost feel like I am watching in real lives the making of like a Marvel type superhero. You see all of these Marvel superheroes and these special powers and this technology that absorbs into maybe some superhero or something like that or a DC comic superhero. It's almost like these people are trying to even bring comic
Starting point is 00:22:44 book stuff to life. As you're talking, I'm just kind of thinking and kind of going back and listening and watching like some of these superheroes as I'm growing up. It's like I'm hearing superhuman. I'm hearing life expectancy to go beyond 80. Ray also said, for every year that you live, you will gain a year. And because you're going to, you know, the AI is going to help with negative health impacts. And so you're going to be adding to your life almost like a superhuman.
Starting point is 00:23:19 It's crazy that we're hearing these godlike terms being dropped and these people trying to play God with technology. Yes, and he's an atheist. Yes. Or an agnostic, he's an agnostic, I guess. You mentioned something, Eric, about extending your lifespan, and he used a phrase I had never heard before, longevity, escape escape velocity.
Starting point is 00:23:47 And he said, longevity escape velocity will be here by the year 2032. And he said, AI will achieve biological breakthroughs to extend human life. Yeah, and real quick, just for the audience. So I had to look this up myself just for people, our audience to know L.E.V. Longevity Escape Velocity is a theoretical theoretical concept where life expectancy increases faster than people age. This could lead to living indefinitely. And that's what he was referring to today. But he doesn't believe you have a soul. Right. Right. But he doesn't want to die, does he?
Starting point is 00:24:33 No. He's trying to have a manmade scientific way to avoid going to the grave and meeting God that he doesn't believe exists. Right. And he opened up his session today by talking about, you know, obviously he's motivated to extend his life. He has to have an external pancreas for his body. And so he's incorporating, you know, this technology and everything. While we were talking here, I was thinking the encroachment of technology in our personal lives, like right now, all four of us are wearing AirPod to improve our ability to hear, you know, I'm wearing glasses.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Now these aren't a digital or anything, but I wear it because they helped, you know, improve my eyesight. I've got a, a watch, an Apple watch that does as much as my phone. And so there is that creeping integration of humanity and technology that's taking place right now. So it's not beyond the realm of possibility to see that full integration of technology and humanity. That's what Ray Kurzweil was really pushing us
Starting point is 00:25:48 toward there, that the technology can be so seamless in our lives. It'll extend our lives, it'll improve our lives. But once again, where does the humanity end and the technology begin? That's going to be the question for philosophers as we move forward. Right. So your glasses, Doc, and the AirPods, those are external tools. What he's talking about is technology inside you. You can't hold or touch AI. But he's saying AI is gonna be inside humans in the 2030s. This, I go back to, what was it, 2007, 2008?
Starting point is 00:26:41 It was 2008, no, excuse me. I think it was 2010. Pardon me. I made a Made a covenant with the Lord. I was in Bermuda and the Lord gave me instructions of things to do and he said have it finished build it by 2030 and I've often wondered what is it about 2030. But now we're seeing that humanity is going to change in the 2030s. So what happens to those of us who say, no, I'm not doing it. I'm not participating. You're not putting AI inside of me.
Starting point is 00:27:27 I'm not going to, I'm going to resist it. Oh, I don't think they're going to kill us, but I think you're going to have two classes of humans and we're going to be treated as subhuman as Neanderthal cavemen. You know, are they going to come to a park to see us? I mean, are we going to be living behind fencing and they people come by, they take their vacation to go see the subhuman Christians who don't have AI? The superhuman divide. Yeah. Isn't it just like them to give all these ideas of this
Starting point is 00:28:09 beautiful utopian life that's going to happen when AI is everywhere? But yeah, we'll probably just be this subhuman race that will essentially be slaves. Well, you know, because they're creating a caste system. It's like the Indian caste system. So those at the top of society will be those who have merged with AI and technology. And those who have resisted it will be treated like the lowest level of humans. Yes.
Starting point is 00:28:50 Eventually, I don't know how many years it will take, but by the 2040s, you could have that type of divide in civilization. Well, Rick, it could happen quicker than you think. Not decades or anything, but we're talking years. Look at this. My phone. 15 years ago, no one had a phone like this. Nobody. And in 15 years, there are billions of these devices everywhere, just within 15 years.
Starting point is 00:29:17 And if we're seeing technology accelerate at the pace that we have been, I think it's within the realm of possibility that we uh, you know, we can see this happening before 2030 and it may not be a device, Rick. It may be direct, you know, technology to our brains, uh, at a certain frequency. I mean, you know, how does a cell phone receive a signal? It's all wireless. It's all wireless. It's all invisible. Is it possible that the transmitting device has been injected in people through vaccines?
Starting point is 00:29:57 Maybe we've already been changed or we're going to be changed. Or those who participated in certain vaccines have already been injected with whatever receiving mechanism is required. He was, he said, your phone will be inside us in the 2030s. AI will not come from some other place. It will come from within humanity. That's right. When he was asked about will AI threaten human civilization, he dismissed it and said, no, and I'm paraphrasing him.
Starting point is 00:30:43 The way I interpreted it was humanity is going to merge with AI. AI is not going to be a competitor or a threat. It's going to become part of the human race. And Rick, to add to that, you who, those who may or may not embrace the merger of AI to be inside of us. Another term I heard today was social norm. And they talked about how back when the camera first came to the cell phone and there's all this hysteria and like people were up in arms about, you know, the camera, you're going to be able to take photos of me and my privacy.
Starting point is 00:31:27 And they gotta have a click noise and a flash to make sure that people knew that you had a camera you're using your phone, whatever. Well, now it's, you know, cameras are on everything. You know, it's a social norm now. Most people only own a phone camera now. And what he was talking about is like the going back to the Ray-Ban meta glasses by them wearing those and people becoming accustomed to
Starting point is 00:31:51 seeing like a flashing blinking light indicating that something's taking place from the lens and and and projecting potentially or taking information it might he said we don't have facial recognition built into these glasses yet. He made, he made sure to say yet. So right now anybody wearing these Ray band meta glasses, they look pretty slick. I'm not going to lie. And what they can do is pretty neat, but you gotta, you gotta make sure and realize that a reality lab, which I believe is the name of the lab that Metta is developing this out of. They've already planned to incorporate facial recognition,
Starting point is 00:32:28 some type of interface that connects from the outside into the inside, and then capture information. That's then going to be the audio is going down the legs of the glasses and you're going to be able to hear information from an AI within the glasses. Instead, as the social norm becomes adapted to these types of things, let's go farfetched. Could it lead to what Ray is talking about? They need the 2030s, those early 2030s, between now and then to adapt, to bring out wearables,
Starting point is 00:33:02 to bring out things that would be they keep talking about AI being a part of human society. Don't don't fear it. Don't don't get afraid of it because it's going to be a part of everything and it's going to transform over time. What if that's needed in order to get to the place that Ray and his utopia that Paul had mentioned becomes reality because it's so normal, it'll be normal to them. Just bring on this AI. It'd be normal to inject something into me to where I can live longer. I can think better.
Starting point is 00:33:36 I can, I can run faster or whatever it may be. There's a very good point. Humanity will just accept it. They'll acclimate to it. They won't resist. What does that sound like? What does that sound like in the Bible, Rick? Sounds like Mark of the Beast. It's coming really fast. Before I talk about Scott Galloway, I want to talk about some of the other things that we heard today because a lot of it had to do with AI.
Starting point is 00:34:13 My first visit here, Paul Benson and I, we came ourselves 2017. It's hard to believe, Paul. It's been that long ago. It's what, nine years ago? Nine years. Is it been nine years? Eight years. Eight, eight, nine.
Starting point is 00:34:31 I think I actually saw you guys' photo on the wall as I walked in. Yeah, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25. No, Paul, this is the ninth year. This is our ninth. This is the ninth time we've been here, minus the COVID, they closed down in 2020 for COVID. And we-
Starting point is 00:34:52 You guys came in 2016, so yes. And then we, so we missed 20 and 21 because they closed for COVID. And then in 2021, remember they were swabbing everybody. They had doctors and nurses up there swabbing people. I said, there's no way I'm going there. But anyhow, when Paul and I came here nine years ago, the very, you know, I've told the story many times, the opening session on the opening day, the topic was the global brain. Yes. What did we hear today?
Starting point is 00:35:32 I heard speakers talking about the digital brain. All right. The brain in the sky. I heard there was one of the China Telcom. Remember in their presentation, the China Telcom speaker was talking about that every city would have a brain in the sky. So, what we heard back then in our first year, the speakers were bold, they were ambitious, they had big goals, short timelines. It was like the mobile phone industry was like, here we are, we're at the starting gate. We're running, we're building 5G.
Starting point is 00:36:29 There was no 5G. They were announcing 5G. We're gonna build 5G. And by 2025, almost everybody will be in driverless cars. There'll be smart cities. And we heard all these spectacular predictions for 2025. Well, it's 2025.
Starting point is 00:36:55 And a lot of their predictions have not come true. Now, they still plan to do it. Now, this is what I noticed that was different. Nine years ago, the energy level was high. You know, the mobile phone industry is going to revolutionize the whole world. What I heard today was we're spending more money than we ever thought we're going to spend. Our revenue is down. Our cap X is up. We've got to fix this.
Starting point is 00:37:36 Taxation of the phone industry is killing us. Government regulation is killing us. Our revenue, our profits going down, our expenditures going up. Well, wait a minute, it's 2025. I thought we were going to be riding around in driverless cars and flying cars and everything would be internet of Things. What happened? Well, you know, a couple years ago, just maybe four years ago, they were talking about 6G. We're ready to start 6G. It's time to have conversations about 6G. Well, we're here now in 2025, and they haven't even finished building 5G.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Right. Why does it matter? Because what Paul and I heard years ago was that all of these ideas that they have, the driverless cars, the Internet of Things, meaning microchips in every single item manufactured, transmitting and receiving data. All these ideas are totally dependent on 5G. And they've not even finished building out 5G for the whole world. And they're running out of money. They didn't say it, but Doc, you could feel it.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Oh yes, absolutely. They're running out of money, okay? So they over-promised and under-delivered, and now the big investors, you know what's happening behind the scenes, the big investors, those that are putting in the hundreds of billions of dollars are saying, where's our money?
Starting point is 00:39:27 Where's our return? Where's all of these things that you promised us? And once again, I'll remind our audience, just like previous years when we were here, this year it's the same way. The top five sponsors of Mobile World Congress are all global accounting firms like Price Waterhouse, Deloitte and Touche and others. Why accounting firms? Because they're watching the money. They want their money. Yes and the other telling sign is the executive director, what's his title?
Starting point is 00:40:05 That, that Grignard? Yeah, but his title, he's like the, he's the executive director of the entire global phone industry trade association, which is called GSMA. He's been here the entire time. Paul and I have been coming here nine years. Well, he announced today he's leaving. Yes. That's a sign. And where is he going to go work? Yeah. The bank of Norway.
Starting point is 00:40:35 He's going back to the bank of Norway. Right. Right. So to me, that's, that's a sign that these guys know it's not going to be the party they thought it was going to be. Right. Okay. Now, the other thing that I heard is satellites. Well, these guys don't, these phone companies don't own satellites. That's right.
Starting point is 00:41:06 But Elon Musk owns satellites. And I think, I think these mobile phone companies, they're going to be taken over by satellites like Starlink. Right. Very soon. Why are you going to need AT&T or T-Mobile? Why would you need them when Elon Musk will be able to allow you to make a phone call to any place in the world? And provide global coverage at a lower cost than the mobile companies. Rick, if I could use an illustration here, you know, back in the 1800s, we had ships
Starting point is 00:41:46 and trains. If you wanted to have something delivered, any kind of freight or anything, you had to ship it by either a boat or by a train or a truck. It was all ground or water. We get up to the 20th century and then suddenly you've got airplanes. And airplanes can now deliver freight as well faster and sometimes even more cost effective than ground transportation. And the railroads haven't gone away.
Starting point is 00:42:17 By the way, all the railroad tracks that we've built have been there since the 1890s. There's only been 10% more track laid since 1890s. Those tracks are still there. I think that the landlines and mobile telephones are still going to be part of the infrastructure, but we're going up. We're going to the sky. That's going to be the we're going up, we're going to the sky. That's going to be the new that the new backbone. Yes. We're going to the sky. So are we going to see these big phone companies fade away, Doc? Maybe not fade away, but they will fade in the background. All right, so I'll give you an example. I was in a couple of you may have been there with me. The CEO
Starting point is 00:43:08 of a big Arab Middle Eastern phone company called Etisalat. He's the CEO. They completely changed their name. That name doesn't mean anything to Westerners, but it's like Verizon in the Middle East. It's a name that everybody knows. They decided they did not want to be known as a phone company. And they changed their name to the letter E and the Amazon symbol for and E and that's their new name. And he said, we completely jettison We didn't want to be a phone company anymore. We don't want the consumers to think of us as the phone company. He said that they were going into retailing, they were going into banking. They were going into insurance. They were going into robotic convenience stores.
Starting point is 00:44:32 They've got the infrastructure to do all these things. They don't want to be known as a phone company. So, there's a major transition coming here in the next five years as the phone companies decide, hey, this is not smart to be a phone company. We've got to use all this infrastructure that we have. Let's go in and take over the insurance industry. Let's take over the retailing industry. Let's take over the retailing industry. Let's take over the convenience stores. Why? Because there's no money left.
Starting point is 00:45:10 In the phone. Right. Yeah. And Elon Musk is coming in with tens of thousands of low orbiting satellites. And are we going to have one global phone company? Is that where we're going? All right. A guy that wants to put a electrode in your brain so you can get AI inside you? Wow. Not good.
Starting point is 00:45:40 Not bad for a guy who sells flame throwers and shoots cars in the space. Rick didn't Elon come out recently saying that he wanted his company Starling to take over some communication, some government communication system? Was that the FAA? No FAA. There was something here recently where he wanted to take on this government entity that was communication based and he wanted to take it on and replace it. I've not heard that.
Starting point is 00:46:13 So when you look that up. I've not heard it. I think he's personally way too close to President Trump. It's making me nervous. But I'm not going to go there right now. I'll leave that alone. So were there any other themes that you guys heard today? Oh, I know. I was talking about satellites. The Japanese company called KDDI, they said, we are transitioning to a satellite strategy. Yes.
Starting point is 00:46:52 They're going into sports, into finance and banking, into Web 3. They own a chain of convenience stores, Rick. Yes. Yes. They're the ones that have this. And they want these convenience stores, Rick. Yes. Yes. They're the ones that have this. And they want these convenience stores. Now we think a convenience store, you know, you think it's getting your soda, your chips, your sweets. He made a big deal about buying your ice cream there, right? But these convenience stores, they're going to become more than just convenience stores. They're going to be where all your financial services are done, where even some of your health services are done.
Starting point is 00:47:30 And it's all going to be built on this platform that they're rolling out in Japan. And China, China Mobile is doing something similar as well. We had a presentation from one of the leaders in China mobile and they were same basic strategy, uh, you know, going into retail, going in. So you see the shift from, and you hear this term throughout the day from telco to techno telco to techno is a major, I couldn't have imagined us having these conversations a year ago. I agree. And so the slogan of this Japanese company, KDDI, is KDDI and Starlink wherever you see the sky. So they're teaming up with Starlink. So I don't know, to me, it looks like
Starting point is 00:48:29 Elon Musk is going to be the big global carrier and the phone companies are going to become resellers. They're just going to be selling his service. to be selling his service. Hmm. Yeah. I mean, didn't on the way here, we, we saw that, uh, T-Mobile is offering. Uh, beta version of star link on our existing devices. This was so crazy about it is it works with all existing devices. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:58 And in the United States, if you have a T-Mobile, uh, you can get a free trial of T-Mobile connected to Starlink. Look, I've got Starlink in my house, and honestly, it's fantastic. I went all the way through the hurricane and the tornadoes and everything and never lost connectivity, which is amazing. So I'm very impressed by what they're doing. Do you guys have anything else you want to say? I'm going to move over to Scott Galloway before we close it up here for the day. By the way, we're here to let our audience know it's 7.30 p.m.
Starting point is 00:49:45 It's 7.30 PM and the hall closed a long time ago. So at any moment here, we're gonna get a security guard who's gonna come over and say, boy, is it's time to leave. All right, they're gonna turn the lights off. They're gonna turn the lights off. They're circling. Yeah, so Scott Galloway, podcaster, professor, speaker, So Scott Galloway, podcaster, professor, speaker, very interesting man. I agreed with him 50%.
Starting point is 00:50:14 I strongly disagreed with him on the other 50%. He said some very truthful things and then he said some very political things. Yes. Okay. I looked over at Paul was sitting next to me and I said, he's a very immoral, moral man. Yeah, that's right. That's exactly right.
Starting point is 00:50:38 Because he was talking about morality. He was talking about God. He would mention Jesus Christ. And yet he endorsed things that were totally ungodly. Right. And his mouth was vulgar and he's an immoral moral man. All right, he, he recognizes there's a God, but he doesn't submit to God.
Starting point is 00:51:01 He knows the world's becoming evil, but he promotes some of the things that made it evil. That's right. What were your thoughts on Scott Galloway? Yeah, it must be a frustrating place to be right in the middle of morality. Yeah, some of the things he said, I mean, it kind of made the light bulb turn on. I mean, it was akin to some of the things that you talk about, Rick, with just the degradation of society and how far we've slipped. And he mentions just us always being buried in our phones and and and and not being connected to other people and I think that's the part that
Starting point is 00:51:48 you'll hear it when we play it but it that connected with me because That is the one thing that I've seen happen and I'm sure it's you know in your lifetime Rick Just how much everything has shifted and changed Yes, and how we've lost our humanity in being buried in our devices. And I don't know, what would it take for us to wake up? And so I like some of that encouragement to just get outside and talk to people. Yeah, he was very bold and very courageous
Starting point is 00:52:25 and he blasted the phone company to their faces and said, look what you've done to people. You have everybody, their faces are buried in phones. They don't talk to anybody anymore. He gave out some stats. Listen to this. He said the majority of us males between 18 and 24 have never asked a woman for a date in person.
Starting point is 00:52:56 Yeah. That's shocking that over 50% of young men have never asked a young woman for a date in person. They've done it online. If they've done it at all. And yes, if they've even done it. And then he said four out of five suicides in America are young men.
Starting point is 00:53:20 So, but as he spoke very strongly about these very negative trends in American society, and yet politically, I'm noticing you supported the movements that created this mess. Yeah, right. Yeah, he was very much, we need to empower young men, young men are hiding, young men are not, you know, getting out. And you talk about how you said Google has a mission men and wanting to embolden men to stand up for themselves go make money be the head of the household all these different things that as you hear it it's like well that's what the bible says it says the bible tells me that i as a man should be the head of my household not the dominant dominant ruler, but I'm supposed to serve.
Starting point is 00:54:25 I'm supposed to manage the money. I'm the one making money. I'm doing, he was speaking a lot of biblical principles in characteristics. And he was saying to young men, uh, you need to go work out three times a week. You need to go challenge yourself and face the nose and everything. Well, Mr. Galloway, the culture that you endorse over this past 20 to 30 years has created these young men.
Starting point is 00:54:50 They've created this mindset where you say, don't do that. Don't be a man. That's what they've said. They said, don't be a man. Men are bad, especially white men. White men are really bad, but men in general, they're bad. And he said, you know, he is a strong supporter of feminism. Well, feminism is what attacked masculinity in our society. He also said, all the women in my life have access to abortion. I want everybody to know that.
Starting point is 00:55:22 I support abortion. Yeah. This one said he was a very immoral moral man, but then he also talked about how it was very moral, but then he said very immoral thing. And he talked about how he's like, I, I forget what the two things were. The one one was something like, I, I, I'm a supporter of this and I'm a supporter of porn. Oh yes. That's your problem.
Starting point is 00:55:47 Oh no. He's gambling and porn gambling. No. Uh, yes, Eric, he said he, he, he mentors young men. Yes. And he said, I always tell them you can feel safe around me. I love porn and I love gambling. There you go.
Starting point is 00:56:02 There you go. And let me see your phone. Yeah. You're a mentor. Oh my. Right. What kind of a mentor? Once again, it goes back to this dual Audi, that this dual, you know, this dual
Starting point is 00:56:13 speak that he's doing where he's emboldening men and he's giving amazing concepts, you know, working out like Doc said, and he gave, he gave the stats on the rise of depression and suicide, you know, the four out of five that you talked about, and how getting out and exercising, getting away from your phone, avoiding isolation, and all these different things that we hear about. But yet he's endorsing two other things that are the extreme opposite and pornography being one of them is a major thing that's causing all these other things that he's
Starting point is 00:56:43 speaking against and trying to embolden these people. It's like, do you not see these two things clashing? Like I couldn't believe it. I thought, I thought doc was going to explode out of his chair and have to hold him back. Oh, I was, I was getting upset. Um, not only about some of the things he was saying, some of the things I was agreeing with too. I mean, yeah, I agree with you.
Starting point is 00:57:04 We have, we have a problem with young men. And, but the problem is the culture that created those young men. And it wasn't just phones. It was political too. You know, the, uh, the phones and the internet are just the vehicle that it was delivered to these young men. I'm glad to see that there are some young men that are rising up and responding, but usually it takes an outside influence more than a mentor. It takes a spiritual encounter with God to make those transformations and to make those things happen. In my summation,
Starting point is 00:57:37 just my observation of Galloway, he's the angriest multimillionaire I've ever seen. the angriest multimillionaire I've ever seen. Yeah, and the other thing which I didn't like, as an American, he bad-mouthed the United States of America and he bad-mouthed President Trump to a European audience. And- Who ate it up. They ate it up and he said that the Trump political base is fascist and that America was endorsing fascism and it was very scary and very depressing to be in America. And I wanted to stand up and shout, you know, 55% of the public in America totally disagrees
Starting point is 00:58:22 with you. They think that this is the best things have been in decades. But, but, you know, I listened because I wanted to hear how they think. And he really, they really are afraid of very nervous. But then he said, he said, you know, uh, Mr. Trump is going to, uh, they're going to cut taxes. He said, I'm going to save $900,000 on my taxes this year. And then he's complaining about it.
Starting point is 00:58:51 And I thought, well, you don't have to, you can get back to the government. If you feel guilty about it, give it all away, Scott. Obviously you don't like being rich. It was crazy. Eric's right. like being rich. It was crazy. Eric's right. I was just about ready to jump up out of my seat and say, what are we doing to go? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:12 And one, at one point he said, you know, I have the flexibility that if things aren't really bad, I can pack up and 24 hours I could be in Dubai and be living and functioning in Dubai. And I was like, well, you see, there's an advantage to the wealth there, right? You're so guilty about it. The reason he's guilty is because he's having to deal with these issues in his home, I guarantee you. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:59:39 I think you hit it right. I think that's exactly what it is. I felt the preacher coming out of me It was righteous indignation. So Well, listen, hey, I think we're gonna wrap it up here We're getting we're getting all kinds of people watching us here saying It's time to turn out the lights. So it was a great first day. I'll say it was our audience It was a great first day. I'll say it was to our audience. It was a Awesome first day and if the first day is any indication what the rest of the week is going to be like we're going to be providing you with information that is
Starting point is 01:00:13 totally Outside of anything that we've talked about before that's why we come to these events That's why we thank you so much For your support allowing us to be able to serve the Lord and represent you here at Mobile World Congress in Barcelona. So to wrap it up, I would say that what I came out of this first day is in comparison to nine years ago and the other years we came here, that the phone industry leaders now this year are not talking about the phone industry.
Starting point is 01:00:50 They're talking about not being the phone industry. They're talking about artificial intelligence that has nothing to do with phone calls. Right. Why do I need AI to make a phone call? Okay, just be a phone company. That's what I want. I just want to make a phone call. But they're telling me we don't want to make a phone call? Okay, just be a phone company. That's what I want. I just want to make a phone call. But they're telling me we don't want to be a phone company. We want to be your banker. We want to be your doctor. We want to be your convenience store owner. We want to be all
Starting point is 01:01:17 these things. We don't want to be a phone company. But we're scared because other people are going to beat us there. That's what they're saying. Other companies, other billionaires are going to beat us there. And we're, we're weighted down by being phone companies and we got to get rid of this phone company image. That's what I'm coming away this first day. They're not, they're not excited and proud about being phone companies anymore. They want to be something else.
Starting point is 01:01:49 Yeah, their name is Mobile World Congress. I may as well just drop the mobile. Right. Next year to be the artificial intelligence Congress, I guess. I mean, most of the conversations today were about AI. It has nothing right has nothing to do with phone calls. But they're telling me this phone is going to be inside you and it's gonna take AI in you.
Starting point is 01:02:18 That's what you think. I'm gonna be an Andrew, I'm not gonna do it. All right, hey, thank you for sending us here. We appreciate every one of you who contributed financially. And those of you who have prayed for us, thank you so much. It's been a good start. We'll be back here tomorrow. On behalf of Doc and Eric and Paul, I'm Rick Wiles.
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