TRUNEWS with Rick Wiles - MWC2025 Wrap-Up: Biological Computers, Passenger Drones, and Dog Phones
Episode Date: March 7, 2025Reporting from Mobile World Congress 2025 in Barcelona, this episode explores cutting-edge technology reshaping society. Topics include AI-powered virtual police stations, biologically engineered comp...uters, AI-integrated eyewear from Meta, and China’s development of autonomous flying taxis. We also discuss the growing role of AI in daily life, including virtual assistants, AI-driven law enforcement, and even smart devices for pets. Plus, insights from industry leaders on where AI is headed and what it means for the future.Rick Wiles, Doc Burkhart, Paul Benson, Erick Rodriguez. Airdate 3/7/25Join the leading community for Conservative Christians! https://www.FaithandValues.comYou can partner with us by visiting TruNews.com, calling 1-800-576-2116, or by mail at PO Box 399 Vero Beach, FL 32961.Get high-quality emergency preparedness food today from American Reserves!https://www.AmericanReserves.com       It’s the Final Day! The day Jesus Christ bursts into our dimension of time, space, and matter. Now available in eBook and audio formats! Order Final Day from Amazon today!https://www.amazon.com/Final-Day-Characteristics-Second-Coming/dp/0578260816/Apple users, you can download the audio version on Apple Books!https://books.apple.com/us/audiobook/final-day-10-characteristics-of-the-second-coming/id1687129858Purchase the 4-part DVD set or start streaming Sacrificing Liberty today.https://www.sacrificingliberty.com/watchThe Fauci Elf is a hilarious gift guaranteed to make your friends laugh! Order yours today!https://tru.news/faucielf
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Welcome to True News from Barcelona, Spain, Mobile World Congress 2025.
It's day four and it's the last day.
We're wrapping it up here today and we'll be flying back to the USA.
Doc and I will be in our seats in Vero Beach on Monday back at work in Florida. So we've had a very fruitful visit here to Barcelona to Mobile World Congress.
And as you can see, the floor looks pretty empty behind us. That's because the show's shutting down.
We're in the last minutes, last hour or so of the show, and a lot of people have already left.
And what we typically do on the last day is move around on the convention floor
because we never get a chance in the first three days to go around on the convention floor because
we're in the educational sessions. So on the last day, we move around and look at the exhibits and
we try to capture some of the more exciting, unusual,
or cutting-edge exhibits that are here at Mobile World.
And so we've got about six of them to show you today.
The first one, all right, when Paul Benson told me
about this one, I was like, you've
got to interview this gentleman.
It's a company that's building a biological computer.
Paul, is this a living computer?
Is this what we're talking about, a living computer?
It's definitely the closest thing I've ever seen to,
I actually, yes, the answer is yes.
They have a machine that they've almost modeled after the human body,
and they've taken blood from a human being, and they are able to then convert that to stem cells,
and then neurons, and then they have all the different organs of a machine.
It's probably the craziest thing I've seen here.
What do you mean they have organs? What do you mean? Machines don't have organs. Humans have organs.
This is the future, Rick. They've been able to engineer artificial organs and put them all together in one computing platform.
I think they've invented a lot here in this and the applications, I don't even think they understand what they've created.
It's amazing.
Are you talking about a computer that has a heart, a liver, kidneys. Is that what you're saying?
Yeah, this and a brain.
It can read and write.
It has input and output.
It seems like they've hacked the biological human body
and then been able to. And know, the, uh, and the way to maybe
think about it, um, you hear about neuro link, how they're able to bring computing into the
human brain.
This is explained as you're taking the brain out and creating an actual synthetic being,
if you will.
And this is the very first version of this,
so it's at its infancy.
But I think where this is potentially going is creating
synthetic robotics. It's getting weird.
They start with human blood,
and from the blood they extract stem cells,
and from the stem cells they build computer organs.
They're the neurons.
Yeah. It's like a map of neurons.
Okay. Who are you talking to in the interview?
He's one of the technicians.
They had a team of the technicians,
the chief technology officer was there.
He's actually physically working on building these devices.
He was able to go into all the technical details and tell us about it.
I tried to get him to speculate on where it's going.
Paul, what's the name of the company?
The company is called Cortical Labs.
Cortical. Cortical Labs. All right. I haven't seen this interview. I want to see it. Let's
watch. Here's Paul Benson talking to a technician at Cortical Labs.
All right. So Paul and Eric are here. We're with Jackson from Cortical Labs.
We're gonna be talking about
the world's first biological computer.
Jackson, tell us all about it.
Yeah, right, so biological computing
is basically doing computation using living neurons.
So we can grow these neurons from a stem cell source,
which can be derived from either a blood donation
or a skin drill.
And so we can grow about 500,000 to a million of these neurons
on top of what's called a microelectrode array.
And that lets us read and write information to these networks
in order to get them to perform tasks.
And what prompted this type of technology?
What prompted this idea to be here today
and to produce a system like this?
Yeah, so I mean we saw the trends in AI at the moment and we saw the downsides, right?
They're consuming vast amounts of power and they require an insane amount of data in order
to train.
But the human brain and brains in general don't require that, right?
The human mind is probably one of the most sophisticated computers that we know of.
It consumes about 10 to 15 watts and is able to do language processing, vision, motor control,
all of these really complicated things.
And it's because of these natural abilities that we're looking to tap into.
Even not at the scale of a human brain, even if you take a small insect,
which is roughly the same level of neurons that we have,
they're able to do really sophisticated processing.
So with this device, we have this input-output capability in order to
train these biological networks to form these goal-directed tasks and we're
looking to tap into this natural ability in order for them to learn and
grow. You mentioned a blood draw, just real quick before we get to the little
demonstration here, you mentioned blood draw. Who? Are you saying that I can take a blood
draw right now? Is it a living person? What is a blood draw coming from?
Yeah, so from a willing donor. So actually we have Hon, who's our CEO, is one donator
and a few others. So once you draw the blood, you can convert that into stem cells and you
just have to do that once. So once you have a source of you can convert that into stem cells and you just have to do that once. Right.
And so once you have a source of stem cells, the really cool thing about those are is that
they can self replicate.
Right.
And so once they're at the stem cell stage, you can differentiate them into different
types of neurons.
And so this actually opens up some really cool applications in a personalized medicine
space because you have this link between the grown neurons and the source.
They share the same physiology, right?
So you can actually start to test different drug compounds in a personalized medicine
aspect on a, not a digital twin, but an actual biological twin of the donor. Because you
now have a system that is performing what we call a cognitive task. It's got to learn
behavior. You can see how that behavior changes in the presence of medications and drugs.
And so I think that's going to be an early application
of these devices in the personalized medicine space.
Wow.
Amazing.
All right, so we've got to see what this is.
So walk us through how you guys create the neurons
and then what we're looking at here.
Yeah, absolutely.
So this is the biological computer.
So the neurons are at the top here, in this position up here.
And this is basically the electrical interface
to the neurons.
So this connects to the microelectrode array
and lets us read the electrical simulations
and also send the information in.
That is sent into a little Linux machine that's
in the box here, which controls the simulated game world and provides and runs all the simulation,
but also networks it over the internet.
So we actually have an output from our lab here down in Melbourne, right?
So we're live streaming this and we're able to control all of these devices in Melbourne.
The rest of this keeps the cells alive outside of the human body or outside of an incubator.
So we have a little heater underneath the array
which keeps it at 37 degrees,
which is the optimal temperature for these cells to be at.
And we also have fresh food in here.
So the neurons consume basically glucose water, right?
And so we have a reservoir of that in here
which gets moved around by these pumps.
But as they consume the glucose,
they also output these waste proteins and waste molecules
that we need to filter out. And so we have a couple of filters here which do that and it ends up
in the waste reservoir. You also need to control for the oxygen and the CO2. And so we have
a little gas mixer up here which balances and measures the correct gas concentrations.
So if you really break it down, you can think of this as your lungs, right, which balances
the gases. Filters, which is your kidney, fresh food,
which would be your stomach, uh, waste, which would be your bladder. And then the heart
here, which is your pumps that moves everything around. And of course the brain at the top.
So we're really looking at a synthetic, almost like a biological human being in a computer
form. Yeah. So this is crazy. How'd you guys come up with this? Yeah, so this is crazy.
How'd you guys come up with this?
So it's engineered biology, right?
We saw the natural benefits of all of these efficiencies
that biological systems were capable of doing, right?
You need a level of complexity out of these neural networks
in order to perform useful tasks.
And a single neuron is too simple,
and the human brain is far too complex, right?
They have 10 billion neurons with trillions of connections.
And so we're working at the level that is complex enough
for us to start to see these emergent properties
that we can start to leverage
these useful learning applications,
but it's not as complex enough
that we can't start to understand it.
So what we got this idea was, I mean,
AI originally started looking at neuroscience
and they made some early progress with the perceptron,
but then it kind of stagnated a little bit, right?
And yes, we were seeing all of this with the foundations
can really progress a lot further
when we start to understand how these systems
actually progress and compute information.
So as this technology,
this is really the beta version, right?
This is the first computer.
So it's like you go back to Steve Jobs
with the computer in his garage, right?
We're in the garage looking at the first one.
Where is this all going?
We're standing next to a server rack.
Let's talk 10, 15 years.
What's going to be possible with this kind of technology?
Yeah, right.
So you're right.
This is the first device.
Early sales of this hardware is going to be going to research labs and pharmaceutical companies.
But we also appreciate that not a lot of people have the ability to develop and grow their own neural cultures,
which is why we have this server rack here, which is what will be managed by us in our lab in Melbourne.
So we will culture and grow our neurons
and provide remote access for developers and users
to remote end and program their own applications
on top of this device.
So I think there's gonna be a lot of programmers
and things that can be built using this type of technology.
But we're right at the beginning of this.
So these types of far-field applications
are something that we're really interested in
in exploring with a wider community. In terms of where this can go, I mean the
next logical step is once we know more and we start progressing, we can start to maximize
information in and out of these devices. We're at the very beginning of this and we're able
to show a learning, but we're under no illusion that this is the most efficient way that we
can do this. So we think using this device we're under no illusion that this is the most efficient way that we can do this.
So we think using this device, we're
going to understand more on how to transmit information in
and interpret their results.
And this means that we can start to leverage
this natural ability for these systems
to progress and learn and grow.
And you can end up with very complicated networks that
are doing very specialized tasks far beyond what we think
would be capable today.
So this is blood being drawn from a live individual and it produces these neurons.
So we say is this alive?
Is this active?
It's living in the same way that your skin cells are living.
So there's biological material in there that obviously needs to be kept in
the optimal environmental conditions, but I wouldn't go so far as to say that it's
alive. So there's a lot of progress that needs to happen to understand where that boundary
lies. And us as a business, we're very confident that this is basically on the level of complexity
as the skin cells, or even if you have neurons in your gut, right?
That is not alive. They're bio-material.
So we know technology evolves and as technology evolves it tends to get smaller, faster, more powerful.
10, 15, 20 years from now, this is being powered by something that came out of a human being.
Do you ever see any of this technology actually coming into a human?
And the human is actually powering a computer and computing itself in this kind of form.
Yeah. So I mean, if you take the brain computer interfacing companies like Neuralink or Synchron,
what they're trying to do is put a small computer
into someone's brain.
What we're trying to do is put a small amount of brain material into a computer.
And what that lets us do is understand and improve this bi-directional communication
and figure out how to get information in and out of these biological networks.
How that's going to impact the brain computer interfacing
community, though, is that we can then work together
and use our protocols for how to get this information in
so that you can actually start to use that
in those applications.
At the moment, they're primarily just trying to passively read
because stimulating and getting information in
is not a solved problem yet.
And so that's how I think this device is going to start
to impact people in that space.
Ray Kurzweil was talking about how
the phone's going to eventually be in us and a part of us,
right?
I mean, this is future stuff.
So this kind of technology, do you
feel like it is going to impact that type of interface?
You're talking about reading and writing to neurons.
So are you guys kind of taking it to the next level?
So look, that's where I could head in the next 10 to 15
years.
I think the more immediate impact to people, though,
is going to be in those life sciences applications, right?
Pharmaceutical drug discovery, personalized medicine,
these types of things I think are going to be the early
goals that we can hit here.
Because you have a device that has learned to task, particularly
in the drug discovery case, and we've done some early testing on this, testing with some
compounds to see how that impacts cognition, you can actually dope these systems with these
types of drugs to start to measure how learning rate changes, how your memory changes, how
cognition changes, all in a standalone device so that you can get improved pre-clinical studies
done before you have to go to human trials or animal studies.
So I think that's going to be the main way that these types of devices, particularly
in the short term, impact health and patient outcomes.
In the long term, the more we understand about the brain, the better off we're all going
to be.
And so we are working with research collaborators to splice in things like work on dementia
models, Alzheimer's models, epilepsy models, and see how different drugs can impact the
really difficult to measure and understand things like learning rate or cognition.
There's no actual functional assay to be able to measure those things.
And now that we have this type of device, you can actually start to understand those
at a greater depth.
Very fascinating.
Jackson, thank you so much for your time.
Appreciate it.
Thank you so much.
Appreciate it.
Hey, Doc, before we move on to the next segment, your thoughts about a neurological computer.
I'm going to go to Mike.
Go ahead. No, I was just gonna say, Eric asked a great question
in the interview is that, is this alive, basically?
Is a set of neurons living?
And at what point does it become a living being?
Think about that.
I mean, we are constructing neurons together,
creating artificial organs.
At what point does it become life?
I mean, is virus living?
Is a virus a living thing?
Is a bacteria a living thing?
If we're a group of cells working together
to solve a problem, is that a living thing?
I thought that was a fascinating
question that came to my mind. Also, what about, you know, Ray Kurzweil saying the phone is going
to be inside of us, AI is going to be inside of us. So to me, the argument these people are going
to make, these technocratsats is look, we took this,
we took the blood from you. We made stir buys from you. Those are your stem cells. Those
are your computer organs. There's nothing wrong with us putting it back inside you.
Why are you opposed to it? We're just going to put you back inside you. That's the argument I see them making.
Yes. Also, Dr. you asked a good question. Is it alive? And if the answer someday is yes,
and a government declares it, declares these computers to be living beings, and they grant them
computers to be living beings, and they grant them human rights.
And the machine now has legal constitutional rights.
You think this is far-fetched? Just a month ago, let me think.
New Zealand, the Parliament of New Zealand granted human rights to a mountain. Right.
A mountain has been declared a living being in New Zealand.
And if you do anything to harm the mountain, like cut down a tree, you could be charged
with I guess manslaughter.
I wonder if you could have border mountains though.
Well, we don't know about that.
These are questions, these are very real ethical questions that are now coming up as technology
advances here, the mixture of biology and technology.
Where does one end and the other begin? So, you know, the products sound great and wonderful,
but at the same time, we're encroaching on that humanity
side of things where, in my opinion, we're becoming less
human.
But anyway, those are just some thoughts from my observation.
Ari, so the next one, Doc, you strolled over to the Meta exhibit.
Yes, sir.
These are the people of Facebook, right?
You're talking about the Meta Corporation.
That's right.
You know, Facebook has renamed itself as Meta and everything.
And currently Meta is in partnership with, of all companies, Ray-Ban.
Ray-Ban, the sunglass company.
If you've been around any length of time, any grown man probably has a pair of Ray-Ban aviator glasses or something like that. Well now
between a partnership between Ray-Ban and Meta, they're rolling out AI glasses,
Meta glasses, and I had the opportunity to go to the Mobile World Congress
networking hub and speak with a representative of Meta Labs and talk to
them about the rollout of Meta Glasses.
Let's watch this and I'll have some comments afterwards.
Doc Burkhart back here with our continuing coverage here at Mobile World Congress.
I'm at the Mobile World Congress networking hub and all this week there's been a special
product demonstration I've been excited to share with the True News and Faith and Values audience and that is Meta Glasses and this is in partnership between Meta, the
Facebook company, and Ray-Ban. And I have Amy here with me and Amy is going to
walk me through a demonstration here in just a moment of Ray-Ban glasses and so hello Amy now let's explain to me what exactly
are we looking at what are meta glasses? These are our Ray-Ban meta glasses they can take
pictures and videos and have AI features such as voice command and there are some
further AI features which yourselves in America you'll actually be able to
experience already which are that these glasses can look at something in front of you, tell you what you see,
answer follow-up questions, it could even translate a menu. For example, if you said,
hey Meta, look at this in front of me, can you translate this text from English to Spanish, for example,
and it would actually be able to translate that back to you.
That's fascinating. Now, can you walk us through some of the features on the glasses here?
Yes, of course. So, with these glasses, to take a picture, there's two different ways we can do this.
So, we can do it manually. We've got a button here on the top of the right-hand arm of the glasses.
If you press that once, it would take a picture. If you pressed and held it down, release your hand,
it would take a video. And then you and held it down, released your hand, it would take a video.
And then you could also do that using your voice command.
Voice command too?
Yeah, you could just say, hey Meta, take a picture, hey Meta, record a video, and then the same command again to stop it.
And that would all go onto the glasses. And what would happen then, once you've got the glasses you'd actually download an app called the MetaView app.
You would download that and this app all works via Wi-Fi and Bluetooth. So on here, you would be able to come, it would come up with a pop up of to the phone and then it would be saved here on the MetaView app.
But you could then transport that to your camera library, to Instagram or wherever you would like to put your pictures and videos that you've taken.
Alright, and I noticed also there's an audio feature too on the MetaGlasses.
Yes, so just underneath the arms of the glasses, That is where our speakers are there. So you can actually connect it to apps to play music,
or if you were listening to Instagram reels, or you could also have a hands-free call through these.
So again, using the voice command, you can say, hey, Meta, call home. It would call home, and you could be having a hands-free conversation
as you're walking through the streets, and actually use these glasses instead of the laser.
Now, besides taking pictures and being able to listen to calls and music, what other features do we have in the Miniglasses?
Glasses. So as far as just normal glasses, you can actually get your prescription lenses in them.
Right. You can have them as sunglasses, make them polarized, transitional, blue light glasses, all of that changed.
It also had its own search engine, so you could actually ask Meta a question. So for example,
if you wanted to know the time in your favourite country, say for example we're in Barcelona right
now so we'll use that as an example, I can say hey Meta, what's the time in Barcelona?
And then Meta would then respond and tell me the exact time or any question
which I'd like to ask her.
Let's say I'm visiting a city I've never been in before, could I actually use the Meta glasses
for maybe block by block travel instructions to the city?
Travel, you could even ask her for example, what's the top tourist attractions, say we're in New York having a city break, hey Meta example what's the top tourist attractions, say
we're in New York having a city break, hey Metta what's the top tourist
attractions in New York, she'll then give you a list of different things which you
could do in your stay, she can even actually give you suggestions using the
look feature, I think one of them are replies to me, you can actually ask Metta
about something you're wearing, if you saw a hat that you liked the look of,
you could say, hey Metta, look at this hat.
Tell me what clothing I could wear this weekend
that would go with it.
And she would actually give you some style choices
and different things, how you could wear that
for your wardrobe that weekend.
What impresses me about the Metta glasses
is your partnership with Ray-Ban.
Not only are they functional in the sense of being able
to access all these different features that you talked about, but
they're stylish as well. I mean they look good and so is it okay to try these on?
So I'm going to take my regular glasses off here and put on. So they look like
ordinary glasses, so no issues there. The ability to take a
picture is here or by my voice. I can hear audio here and so and the
difference between me and you is I make these look good. So alright that is
awesome. I'm a big fan of Ray-Ban and when I first saw this come out several months ago, I was
like, this is the perfect partnership.
Because I think the concern for a lot of people is they want to enter into this space, but
it just didn't look, it looked too techy.
This looks stylish, it looks fashionable, and I've seen the commercials on US television
too with a couple of
celebrities and they were using it. Fascinating technology. Where do you
where does Meta see this going in the future?
Eventually, we obviously not only with the AI glasses, we do also have our Quest products which is virtual reality and mixed reality so the aim towards the end is to meet in the middle and to be able to
combine those but at the moment we have two separate products so that's definitely the way we're going.
Now I already know they answered this question but how has the reception to this been?
Extremely well, these glasses have honestly been flying off the shelves
especially with the collaboration with Ray-Ban they, they've hit a lot of the public audience. They're already
a very popular brand. So the combination with Meta and Ray-Ban has definitely been a hoot.
Amy, thank you so much for your time and thank you to Meta for this technology and we're looking forward to using it in the future.
And I know there's a line going out here. People are very excited to try this out and demo it.
And they're doing a great job here. We'll see more here at Mobile World Congress.
So what did you guys think about that?
Paul, go for it.
I mean, this kind of technology is incredible.
This can bring AI into the physical.
So something as easy as just putting your glasses on.
Anything that you see can be transmitted to the Cloud,
can be transmitted to AI.
Whatever you see, it can see.
So this combined with AI is gonna give us the ability
to do many things, whatever you're looking at,
it can be processed, documented, moments can be recorded.
It's incredible tech for sure.
Doc, you and I, we were standing in line
talking about the iterations
over the last five or so years,
Snapchat and Google Lens and these
different companies.
And they never really took off.
But it seemed like Metta found a good partner.
They found a good designer.
And the technology is not a spot where it could be small enough to where I was in a
session where the guy was wearing them.
And they look like everyday glasses.
Yeah, they look no different. They look no different than my glasses.
They don't. Yeah, you're right.
And the glasses. Oh, I'm sorry, Rick. Go ahead.
I'm going to speak to about from a marketing viewpoint of what Eric said.
You know, to say, you know,
Google glasses failed or whatever other previous versions failed. That's because the
consumer said Google is not supposed to make glasses. Facebook isn't supposed to make glasses,
but Rayburn makes glasses. So somebody figured it out and somebody in the marketing department said, look, we have to put this technology in an
accepted brand. Because now you're simply buying the latest edition of Rayburn glasses.
Right. That's it. And that's how I think that the public will gain an acceptance of
artificial intelligence. It won't be by just going on the computer or on their phone or
anything like that. It's just using an object that you use every day that you normally use glasses
for most people. And with these glasses, you can take pictures,
you can listen to music, you can access the internet,
you can make a phone call all within these and in a stylish format. That's the other part too. All these different
iterations and everything, they look clunky and ugly and everything, but now it's cool.
That's you've got Ray-Bans. So I think it's going to be probably one of the steps to allow for
general acceptance of artificial intelligence into everyday life.
Rick, do you remember yesterday we were talking about we did a deep dive into AI agents and using
virtual reality to interact with your AI agents? That gentleman also explained that he had wrote
a program that works with meta glasses so that that, for instance, he had a demo where
he was looking at a newspaper and had it in front of his meta glasses. And the glasses
also have an audio interface. So he was just looking at reading something and the AI agent was observing what he was looking at and then
transmitting some additional research. So this is the idea of whatever you're
working on, whatever you're looking at, you can also have access to your AI agents and they can
interact with you almost even silently when you're in the public.
So incredible applications.
Yes, so many.
What about privacy issues?
If a camera and microphone are built into the glasses,
how do I know, Doc, that you're recording me?
Well, you really don't. But then how do you know someone's, that you're recording me? Well, you really don't.
But then how do you know someone's not recording you
right now?
Well, I don't.
Well, this is where we're at in our society.
Right, it's accepted that you have no privacy now.
Right, but people like James and Keith
make a living out of this.
Right. Okay?
So, you have to be on guard that you can't talk to a stranger.
Okay?
You have no idea if the person is recording your conversation.
Well, they're supposed to see a little light in the corner of the glasses.
So now society will need to be aware if you see a little dot,
same in the same way as your iPhone.
Your iPhone, you have a green dot, you have an orange dot.
If an orange dot is visible on the top of your phone,
that means an app or something is accessing your microphone.
If it's green, your camera is being accessed,
so iPad, iPhone, whatever.
The same thing right now with the meta glasses,
there's gonna be a little light, little LED light
that's gonna indicate that you are,
that the glasses are in a record or a capture type moment.
So it's gonna be another way, another thing
that the society's gonna have to be observant of
as they're gonna be out in the wild, basically.
Obviously with the phone, you're gonna be up like this,
so it's gonna be obvious.
This not so much, so it's gonna take some time
to get used to this idea that lenses are being,
or your glasses are capturing content.
What about augmented reality?
Will these glasses support augmented reality?
Yes, uh, well our the representative from meta told us that that is going to be integrated here. Yeah
It's already rolling out but it's going to be integrated into the glasses
So let's say that you're looking let's say you're at a museum
And or you know, uh this use of museum for example, there's a fossil
and you can look at the fossil and the augmented reality within the glasses
can give you a description of the fossil
and everything that you wanna know about it
that is already online.
So, or let's say you want to know some details
about individuals.
They'll be able to look at somebody and you'll be able to get
a profile of an individual right within the framework of the glasses.
This is a, there are a lot of new questions
are being raised with the use of this technology.
But there's a lot of amazing applications for this too.
I can see it in medicine and in sports and just a whole wide variety of different things.
I think the biggest challenge is going to be, let's say that you're a professor at college
and all your students are wearing meta glasses.
And are they paying attention to the lecture or are they doing something else?
And so you won't know.
My question, Doc, is why would you need a professor?
That's the next step.
You know, professors are going to be eliminated.
Colleges are going to be eliminated.
Right.
AI replaces education. Why are you going to go sit
in a classroom for four years and go in debt a couple hundred thousand dollars when you could
have more information at your disposal in one day with AI? It just obliterates traditional education.
Okay, the next one, Paul,
I think you went over to China Telecom,
which is the biggest phone company in China.
And China Telecom has entered the taxi business.
They have flying taxis.
We've been talking all week about how the phone companies
are transitioning into other businesses.
In order to have flying cars, flying taxis,
you have to have the 5G infrastructure in place.
The phone companies are like,
why are we turning this over to other people to use our infrastructure?
Let's just go into business ourselves and do these things.
So they don't call it a flying taxi or a flying car.
It's an autonomously driven passenger drone. And I think it's pretty cool.
I don't know if you guys would ride in it. I would. I'd love to have one. I would. This
is like got my name on it. I want one. But you know, you've got it. Would you get in
a vehicle? Would you get in a vehicle that doesn't have a human pilot?
And boy, and go, you know, go 5000 feet up and travel
for 20 miles, would you do that?
I would if Paul went first.
I mean, I would love to be able to be in control if something were to fail.
I mean I'd love to be able to learn how to drive one of these things. I think that would be
incredibly fun. You know in the beginning I would be pretty nervous on my first flight.
But yeah I mean once the technology is advanced, it's all, it's, it all makes sense.
They're able to map the entire traveling from A to B, you have a 5G network.
And there are certain systems in place if there's different failures, you know, I'm
sure it would land on the ground safely.
In theory, but these these passenger drones are this we're not talking about
sci-fi for the future. They're in operation right now. Right. They're carrying passengers in China. I know in Dubai, in the Middle East, There are passenger drones flying people from the airport to the downtown
every day and cutting a lot of time out of the travel time between the airport and the
heart of the city. So again, this is not something that's futuristic. It's actually being done.
So again, this is not something that's futuristic. It's actually being done.
And other countries, they're here selling these units.
This is like a car dealership.
You can come here and buy a fleet of passenger drones
if you wanted to go into business
in the United States of America.
Okay, so let's watch the video.
Here's Paul Benson over at China Telcom with their passenger drones. this watch the video here's uh... useful benson over it at uh... china china telcom
with their
passenger drones
paulinear here with you with the same we're gonna talk about this amazing
drum behind us what can you tell us about
uh... we're looking at it
okay this is an electric
and intelligent vertical takeoff and landing aircraft
as you see has to seats which can carry two
people at the same time. With the measurement altitude I think is one
kilometers and measurement endurance of 25 minutes and the top speed of this
aircraft I think is 130 kilometers per hour. Yeah it has been granted permission in China by
ACCA and for the man tested. And so when this is operating is it using China
telecom to communicate and fly around the city? Yes China Telecom will provide
the robust 5G network and crowd computing technology for the drone. And we will provide a low altitude
sorry, low altitude surface supervision platform
for the drone to make sure it's safety
and also to provide data support for the operations.
And so is this in testing now? Has this actually been in flight in China and taking people around?
And when will it actually be open to the public if you know?
No, it's only in testing period.
Do you know when they might be able to roll this out?
And are they waiting for the 5G networks to be fully ready or is it more regulation?
When do you think this actually might be flying the public around or is it more regulation? When do you think this
actually might be flying the public around? Is it years away? I think the
technology and the network is ready for that for the fly-in but the regulations
are under considered by our government. And do you know have you ever so you've
never actually flown in this before have you? No. Do you know, have you ever, so you've never actually flown in this before, have you?
No.
No?
No, no, no.
Do you know anyone that's actually seen it taken off or anything like that?
No, but from my memory it has been tested in some cities in China, including Beijing
and Shenzhen.
That's amazing.
Yeah.
Is the plan for these to be for consumer use where the average person can just buy one
and just get from point A to point B?
Or do you plan or is the vision just for larger companies to use this maybe for agriculture
or for going and surveying a construction site or something like that?
What's the long-term plan here. Yes, we are planning to apply that in the area including the low altitude, low-dust
delivery and low altitude tourism.
Yeah, in these areas.
Okay.
So as of right now, what's the distance it can go from point A to point B?
And do you have to have a 5G network to the network to be able to accommodate
the entire flight right from A to B do you know how far it's able to travel
only get the data about the measurement endurance of 25 minutes 25 minutes
incredible and so what do you think in the next couple of years we might see
this by 2030 maybe I have no idea but I think it will come soon. Thank you so much for your time.
Appreciate it. Thank you. Hi Paul, I want one. I'm not joking. I would love to have, I've always
wanted to have my own personal vehicle and aerial vehicle so I think it's pretty cool. So what else about these passenger
drones stands out in your mind? Well, as we heard, they're still in the testing phase, but they are
actively testing this in China. They said that the network is fully deployed. They're waiting for
regulation. So a lot of these things, it's all kind of the text there. They're waiting for regulation. So a lot of these things is, it's all kind of the text there.
They're waiting on government regulations
to catch up with the technology.
And so I think the first place
you're probably going to see this realistically,
you know, there's kind of the hobbyists
that are drone operators,
but realistically,
there are companies that are looking to deploy these in places like Miami and Las Vegas.
So, you know, in Vegas,
you got the helicopter tour tours, right?
This is gonna be kind of a, begin as a novelty thing
for consumers to be able to go take a ride,
kind of get more normalized to it in society.
But eventually there's other applications
like taxi services in California.
I know that's one, like Uber's gonna be doing this.
But again, it all is kind of hinging on regulation,
catching up with the techs.
Okay, so I said earlier,
these things were in operation in China. So you're saying
in China, they're still waiting in the China government to give approval for the general
public to use it. But I know in Dubai, they are using it. Passengers are flying on these things
in Dubai. Yeah, Dubai is always on the cutting there. They find new tech like that. If they can
get attention, they're gonna, they're gonna try it out. So they're going for it. All right. So doc,
the next one you were, you stopped by the, the, the police department of, of, is it Barcelona?
Barcelona? Catalonia, Catalonia actually the province
So this is kind of like the state police catalonia
Which is a province of spain so they have a display
So why is the police department here at a phone?
Uh convention, what are they displaying?
Well, uh rick two things that we were able to talk about with the Catalonia Police Department. First of all is they're rolling out and they have active right now, virtual police stations.
And we'll talk more about it here in the video here in just a few moments.
But basically being able to offload a lot of these mundane tasks that police officers have to
deal with on a regular basis, complaints, you know, things like that.
And using a virtual police station to help address some of these issues.
But the larger item within the presentation is their combined police vehicle with a drone.
And the drone is an autonomous part of the police vehicle itself and the police
vehicle itself is something that's upgraded, something almost like Robocop
level stuff that they've added to the police vehicle, which will help them to better do their jobs.
Now, here's the video.
We'll watch it and I'll have a few comments afterwards.
Doc Burkhardt back here with you at Mobile World Congress,
and I'm here with Alex,
and he's a member of the police force of Catalonia.
First of all, thank you for your service.
Appreciate that very, very much.
You're welcome.
And we are here at the booth here for the Catalonia Police Department,
where they have two pieces of fascinating technology.
Alex here is going to tell me a little bit more about the first one is a virtual police station.
Tell us a little bit about this, Alex.
This is a virtual avatar that works with an EA.
This means that we can record different types of complaints
from the person from around the world. This avatar
can go through 10 languages right now, which are
English, French, Dutch, Spanish,
whatever we want.
He will do the questions that we need to make a complaint.
And this will make the record of the complaints even faster
for the persons who are from the outside of Spain.
That means that when we start the avatar, the avatar will make us a lot of questions about when the thing happened, how they happened, what they take us for example if we lost a phone. serial number of the phone to go through our APP to find the phone faster and the
complaint will arrive you to your email address and will also be sent to our
system. Now how does this help you as an officer to do your job more effectively?
That means that the police departments where we take the complaints all the days
will be very liberated from the work that we have.
We usually have a lot of people making complaints,
not only when they lost something, even when they got something stolen from other people.
So this will help to make the police departments more effective and faster for all the people
around the world.
Now, a question I would have is, would people find interacting with an avatar a bit overwhelming?
Would they be a little bit concerned about dealing with just an avatar a bit overwhelming? Would they be, you know, a little bit concerned about dealing
with just an avatar rather than an actual person?
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
So how do we overcome that part of it?
Sorry?
How do we overcome that part of it? Would people be apprehensive about using this? It will make it more easier for all of us.
It's like when we go through to go it and we want to make the order on a computer, it
works like this.
We can make the complaint by our own and faster.
That's the objective.
Alright. How do you see this improving over the next few years and helping the
police department to do a better job?
First of all, we want to introduce one of these in every police department and
then we are creating like a virtual area to take all the complaints.
That means that people can make the complaints from our home.
And we have not to go to a police department and
lose a lot of time waiting to the police officers to take the complaint back.
So this means that we'll be all more faster and effective for the people.
Would this also be useful in emergency situations as well? Could be, could be. We
are working on it. Okay. So this would be for more of complaints, for now, for
complaints or issues that they might have. It's not quite ready for like
emergency calls or things like that, but that will be something in the future that would be integrated.
In the future it could be.
What else can you tell me about this that our audience would find fascinating about
this?
From what exactly?
What else can you tell me about the virtual police station that our audience would find
fascinating about this?
We created the virtual area six months ago more or less and we are working
through different types of complaints. We started for example with only with
lost. When people lost their passport, when people lost their bag in the
airport or when the people lost the phone somewhere. We are working only
with this but the objective is that working only with this, but the objective
is that next year or this year at the end we can make the best complaints, the
big complaints. When someone stole something from me, how can I make the
complaint faster from our home to liberate the police departments and to
be only for the big emergency situations.
That's very fascinating.
Now, this is just one aspect of what Catalonia is doing.
We actually have something else we want to show you here.
This is a police vehicle that the Catalonian police are rolling out here with a unique
feature.
It has a drone mounted on top, plus other features as well.
Would you walk me through the vehicle here
and talk to me a little bit about it?
What we have here that we don't have
in the other police cars that we have
normally on the streets.
The difference, the most evidence is that we have a drone
on the upside of the car.
This drone can go 45 meters higher, it's connected with a cable,
which is fully connected with the car all the time.
This means that the battery is all the time at 100%
and can send images to the car and through our sala.
The sala is where we have all the computers
and where people are working and sending the
different patrols through the different incidents that they are arriving through the 911 or
112 here in Spain.
Let's walk up to it a little bit here and show you a little bit more.
This is the back part of the car.
Here is what we have all the different connectivity of the car. We have the Axon part which is the US
company and we work with them to make them from the cameras that we
have on the car. For example we have a backside camera because of the guilty
part of the cars and we cannot see what we have behind so right camera to see what we have also we have a camera on the on this part of the car
to see the guilty persons oh the passenger in the back seat here and we
also have one camera on the front and of the car. And I assume that the officer will have access to all that visual display, you know, depending on...
It works because we have here like a mini computer.
This mini computer is connected with the screen of the car.
That means that I can access through different APPs that I normally access when I am on a police department. So I can check persons, I can check vehicles, I can check different
cameras that we have. For example, if other cars are connected with a camera in the front
of the car, I can see the images from this car.
Now, of course, the most fascinating feature of this is the drone.
The drone.
Okay. How do you see this helping an officer that's out in the field being able to manage a situation
or circumstance?
For example, when we have a fire, it can be useful to go up and to see if there's someone
inside because it has a thermical camera.
That's a great idea, yes.
For example, to research people who is lost, to control different groups of people
that are protesting for something,
we can see how many people are,
where they go, how they go, if there's a battle,
if they use or not knives or not.
Right, with the officer protected in the vehicle
in case there's any issue or anything.
Correct, the drone can be managed
from the outside of the car, I have a tablet. Yes. That
we normally use in our everyday or from the inside of the car. We have this screen of the car which
is this screen that we have right now. Yes. So I'm going to sit down in here.
So in here you would manage the drone. Correct.
And you'd also have access to all the cameras around the vehicle as well.
Around the vehicle and around from the other cars that we have working.
And our live streaming images we can see through this vehicle.
Fascinating.
Are there any other features that you have with the vehicle that are on the cutting edge?
Yeah, the bridge of the lights that we have, it's different.
We normally use the bridge of the lights where the drone is,
but with this innovation, we have the bridge of the lights on the sides
and on the front of the car.
These lights are adaptive.
This means that we, through a computer computer we can program the lights to be
on or off for example when the when the car goes through 80 kilometers per hour
yes we can program the APP to the lights go on or different types of lights for
example right now it's like the the the car is a stop. Now we have a button, we didn't produce the app right now, but we can change the type of the lights.
For example, we are going through an emergency. This could be the lights when we are going through an emergency.
This could be the lights when the car goes through 80 kmph. The objective is that all the people that we have here living in Catalonia could know
where they go.
What are the services that we are doing?
Only by seeing the lights that we have here.
It's absolutely fascinating.
Now, are these presently in the field or is this just a prototype?
This is a prototype of how we think that the car should look in about four or five years. At the end of this year
we will see this model of car, the Cupra Terramar, it will be on the streets
logotipated. We also will incorporate at the end of this year all of this
hyper-connectivity that we are talking about. And also maybe we are incorporating the bridge of the lights.
OK. The drone, it will be only in indeterminate cars
for determinate situations or emergencies.
But you see at some point that maybe all vehicles will be like this in the future.
That's the idea.
If we have all the resources to make it happen, it will be.
I'm glad to see that the Catalonia police are on the cutting edge of technology That's the idea. If we have all the resources to make it happen, it will be.
I'm glad to see that the Catalonia police are on the cutting edge of technology and
taking advantage of the tools that they have. Alex, thank you so much for your time and
once again thank you for your service to the people of Catalonia. God bless you, sir.
Thank you.
It's a pleasure.
Well, we're at the demonstration here for the Catalonia police with their new Robocar, I
guess the best way to put it, police car with a unique feature of a drone mounted on top
of the vehicle. If you notice the display here on the wall that is what the drone is showing
right now. Not only actual video but also heat-seeking technology there.
Very interesting.
So gentlemen, you saw the video there and you had the opportunity to see the virtual police station, which they don't address emergency calls or anything like that.
That's like, it's more for calls like I lost my cat or, you know, or I lost my cat or you know or I lost my phone or they've got a complaint
noise complaint they want to issue with the police department. Things that take
up a lot of the police officers time instead of being able to respond to
emergency situations and so I think that's a very unique use of AI technology there.
Totally interactive, and it takes the load off
of the police office.
But of course, the police vehicle
itself with combined drone, that's fascinating.
And in the video, we showed the drone taking off
and flying above the car and all the new features
within the car.
And Officer Alex, who helped us explain the vehicle
and everything, did a very fine job
explaining all the different aspects of it.
And I asked him in the interview,
can you tell me how would you use a drone?
And he said, well, of know, of course emergency situations,
one application is to use the drone.
If there was a fire, the drone actually has
heat detection capabilities where it can distinguish
like people in a burning building.
That's one, but another application he said,
and the greater application would be in crowd management
and crowd control.
Of course, you have protests and things like that here in Europe and here in Spain in particular.
And so having drone technology to be able to, what he said, manage crowds. And I took that to mean not just to observe crowds and everything,
but also to at some point maybe even deploy, let's say, tear gas
or some other type of weaponry or sound projection, anything like that.
There's a lot of applications.
So you see the integration, once again the technology in this case, artificial intelligence,
because the car itself becomes an extension of the police officer through artificial intelligence.
It has six cameras.
The drone becomes an extension of the officer.
We're going to be changing the way we think about how police and fire departments operate.
On the one hand, it's very, very exciting, and you see the potential for all this new
technology, and it is really, really fascinating.
Now, the vehicle that we saw in the video, it's rolling out later this year.
So it's not on the street yet, but it's rolling out later this year.
And they expect fleet active service, a number of cars within three to five years.
Amazing.
So even down to the police level, they're going to be seeing these changes as AI
worked its way, like yeast, through all of society.
You can't get away from this, folks.
This is why we're here.
We're trying to show you where our society is going
in the next five to 10 years.
So the next one, we convinced Paul Benson to get a facial.
And so there was a company here,
like what is a skin care company doing at a phone convention
talking about digital technology? So Paul, answer that question.
What is a skin care company doing at a digital technology conference?
This did stand out it was as we were walking through the convention halls
Is this?
You know cosmetic company is then cosmetics
They had their skin product line on on the table, but what was interesting is that they were?
scanning people's faces and using this
cutting edge sensors and camera technology, they're able to detect all different kinds
of conditions of your skin.
They had another device that's also able to detect melanoma within six seconds.
You place this on a spot on your skin and it can tell you whether or
not it's likely to become cancerous. Previously, you'd have to go to a dermatologist to do
all of this, but this is just an example of how technology is revolutionizing your ability
to take care of yourself.
All right. And then of course, this company, I'm sure has a has a line of skin care products.
Is that what that's their main business. But what attracted our attention was the digital
scanning of faces to determine to analyze the condition of a person's skin and what
sort of kind of what kind of treatments were necessary. I think the one that caught my attention was
the melanoma. For those of us who live in Florida, that's a big issue.
And I don't know how the dermatologists are going to respond to a cosmetic company
a cosmetic company in a shopping mall doing skin tests.
But anyhow, hey, let's watch the video.
So we're here at Mobile World Congress 2025. Here I am at ISDN.
I'm here speaking with Rod.
This is one of the leading skincare
and dermatology companies in the world.
Rod, thanks for giving us a few minutes of your time.
Tell us about ISDN and your technology here this year.
Okay, ISDIN, we have a commitment with everyone we touch in order to allow
them to have healthy, happy, and beautiful lives. And to make that happen, we
need a super strong laboratory to create our products, but technology
associated to it. And especially in artificial intelligence,
to understand the skin and to allow our ISD lovers,
which is the name that we use for our customers,
to understand first and then to love their skin
in every single layer.
The first device that we have here is focused on
understanding four layers of your skin
and to project yourself until you are 80 years old.
Which is pretty, pretty impressive.
Even, we analyze even the bacterias that you have
in your face and how that's going to work
for you and your skin.
And secondarily, we have the most advanced dermatoscope
ever created, which is a device, a portable device,
that can analyze if you have a melanoma or not
within six seconds.
Oh my goodness.
How does it do all of that?
Is it through sensors, cameras?
Sensors, cameras, data, which is the most important piece
of it, to understand different kinds of skin.
In the case of melanomas, millions
of different melanomas analyzed by dermatologists.
So there is a lot of science behind every single product that we have.
And so what's your plan for using this technology other than here?
Are you thinking of actually bringing this out to the public?
Is this stuff that you're showcasing that's cutting edge? I'm assuming it is.
Yeah, it is cutting edge, but we already have it.
You know, here in Barcelona, we have one of these machines in CasaisdÃn.
We call CasaisdÃn, which is our flagship store. There you can try it. You know here in Barcelona we have one of these machines in Casa Isdin, we call Casa Isdin, which is our flagship store. There you can try it, but this
yes this is for public in general, you know our is the lovers and that other
one is already distributed in more than 30 countries for dermatologists. Can you
explain what we're looking at here? Okay so we are measuring the deepness, the
black spots, the wrinkles, the texture of your skin. For example here we are measuring the deepness, the black spots, the wrinkles, the texture of your skin.
For example, here, we are projecting in four years,
if we see the face of our seal over here,
the actual real skin, you don't see that red area
in the face, you know?
So we are projecting her face within four years.
So she needs to take care of that areas of her skin because if not,
probably her skin in that zone is going to get red probably in five or ten years. Here
we have the bacteria so we are not alone, never, never, never because we are always
going with those bacteria on the top of us. And also now we are going to project her and we are
going to see her with 80 years okay so I'm going to ask my colleague to do it
okay so we are going to protect her from today to 80 years old, let's say.
Okay, okay, so this is based on her bone structure,
school, et cetera, plus the thickness
and the muscles of her skin.
So this is a super, super professional way of doing it,
and not the apps of Instagram or TikTok.
This is the real deal, yeah. And I'm assuming you guys have products to help the apps of Instagram or TikTok. This is the real deal.
And I'm assuming you guys have products to help accommodate
all of these different scenarios.
Yes, we have all the products.
For example, this one is our best seller.
It's a photo protector.
It's called Fusion Water Magic.
And we empower people to photo protect themselves
every single day.
If I have to push one single product,
ours or anyone else's, okay, obviously I want ours,
but you know, photo protect you.
Even if it's cloudy, you know, the photo protection is key
to avoid complications in the future.
What do you say to people that are like,
kind of, they step away from SPF, there's some people in the states. What do you say to people that are like kind of they step away from SPF?
There's some people in the States that see SPF and they think,
oh this isn't really healthy for me.
What's your opinion on that?
Well, you know, in the States we have a special formula that's following the local regulation.
Oh really?
Yes.
And the local need of the Americans.
So we have this one for Europe and there is an special one for the US market. Alright, great.
Hey, thanks again.
Appreciate it.
So you have to sit here and you have to close your eyes.
Can you tell us what is it?
What we are going to do now is a picture of your face.
We are going to use eight parameters to analyze the health of your skin.
Okay.
Okay?
So you have to close your eyes and you have to keep your eyes closed all the time, I tell
you, okay?
You will see six flashes.
Is this going to hurt?
No.
It's not going to hurt.
One second.
You keep your eyes closed, please.
Now we are going to do the second part but it's not painful.
Don't laugh because if you laugh there will be wrinkles.
Got it? Okay. So this is your photo time. Oh no. These are the mask, don't worry.
This is your side one.
And now the machine is doing the skin shape.
So you can see different kinds of spots.
These are visible spots.
These are UV spots.
Do you use sunscreen?
No.
So we can see that you have many, many, many sunspots
because you don't use sunscreen.
And we have brown spots.
You have a lot of them because these are hidden.
So they can become visible.
So we need to work on you using your sunscreen every day,
even if it's cloudy.
Because the sunscreen protects you from UVB, UVA, and also
pollution and blue light. Okay. So that's why we recommend always to use it. You
don't have sensitive skin because we don't we can see red areas and for the
wrinkles you have some of them that you can see that they are dark green but the
ones that they're light green they are not deep. So we have to look for the dark green ones.
And we can see the texture is related to dead skin on your face and the pores.
But we cannot see that you have oily skin.
Let's see your side one.
see your side one. Here we can see the same but we also can focus on your eyes. Okay but what I can see is that maybe we can focus on a routine for you related
to anti... to the spigmen your to remove the spots because we have products related to the air
Okay, now we are going to see your trust in a
So because of the of this part every time this post they have they they are
high penalty
You know parameter.
That's why you have to focus on your spot.
That's why the machine gives you two years more.
Let's see the simulation.
See on the frontal one.
Oh yeah, you can click off of that one. And for you, in East Dean we have many products.
We are a dermatological brand from Barcelona.
So you can see that you have the full routine for day and night.
The Mela Clear is the product that is going to help you with your spots
and also your sunscreen. You have to use sunscreen every day. So I'm going to send this to your
email. So you will have your routine in your email to find it everywhere. If you are going
to stay more days in Barcelona, you can go to Casa Estina and Paseo de Gracia. You have
the address in your email.
Excellent. Thank you so much. Appreciate your time, all right.
All right, Paul, I'm glad that you were the guinea pig
out of the team to do this.
Very cool, I like the fact that the common theme
they're seeing here, whether it's good or bad,
you're seeing a lot of technology companies
starting to give power back into the consumer.
You're seeing a lot of people being able to do things on their own. They're trying to make it so you're not having to
leave your home to report a police issue or a theft of some sort. Here you're seeing you're able
to get yourself a face scan without maybe having to go to the dermatologist or maybe they'll
partner together. So I think that's really neat to see. I do
have one curious question though, I was I was just dying to ask
you was, did they give you a bag of products to take home to use
for your new morning regimen?
That's the thing. Yeah, they they had that was the whole idea
behind this. And when we were standing there, there's a whole
line of people there, they were lined up to go get scanned.
And then, yes, they're going to be delivering that
to my email.
So they're gonna, they email everybody
that gets their face scanned with their line of products.
It is also an interesting selling point
when they make you look 40 years older in front of everyone.
So it's like, oh yeah, that's right.
It's like, yeah, they, they, they, they digitally age you and show you what you're going to
look like.
Yeah.
10, 20 years from now.
Yeah.
So your face is like droops down and it's like, if you don't use our skincare products,
this is what you're going to look like.
That's right.
Hey, our last one.
Doc, you found a smartphone for your dog.
Yes.
Is it for real?
A smartphone for your dog.
This is for real.
And that's one of the great things about coming to Mobile World Congress and all these technology conferences and everything is sometimes you find the weird and unusual.
And this is definitely it.
A company out of China called Glucalmeat, they have rolled out a
new product called the Pet Phone.
Now, this is serious folks.
This isn't something that's made up.
This is a phone for your cat or for your dog,
where they actually wear it on their collar.
And we're presenting video here in just a moment here,
but wrap your mind around this, ladies and gentlemen.
Not only can you call your dog on his phone your dog
and call you no way let's watch the video let's watch the video and then
we'll have some comments afterwards hey Doc Burke right here at Mobile World
Congress and I'm talking with Lynn and Lin what's the name of your group your
company? Our company is Uplow Lin Group. We are a nationalistic company and headquarters in Singapore.
This is our own brand Glow Kumi and we are developing our latest model the
world's first smartphone designed for pets here. A smart phone for pets? Yes. Now where did this idea
come from? Well because smart phone has become a necessity for people in the
daily life and we were wondering why can't our loved ones have it too. For
example our pets they would need a remote companion and happiness like
we do so we want to combine our technologies and our love
for pets together to create something that can make the daily life more
happier and more convenient for pets and the pet owners too. I think this is a
fascinating idea now what are some of the features here that you would have
and it's called the pet phone? Yes,, we call it a pet phone because it has similar functions like the smartphone
we use.
There are four major function sections.
One is the phone.
Phone is mainly making phone call to the pet and allowing the pet to call you as well.
Wait a minute.
Are you telling me I could call my pet, my cat, my dog?
I could call them, but they could also call me?
Yes, indeed. That's why we call it a phone.
Okay.
Would you like me to explain further how it works?
Oh yes, absolutely.
Right. For now, for us to make the phone call, we just simply press, download the app.
Sorry, not this one. Download the app and then you press making the phone for button and it will dial out to the device. This device has speaker and mic so
you can hear the pet and the pet can hear you as well. Okay. For the pet to call you
we have now two designs, one is sound trigger. If the pet say a dog barks over
five times within ten seconds it will activate the device to die out to the app.
And you should able to receive the notice that there is an incoming call from
your pet.
I'm just trying to wrap my head around this. How is it? How do they call you?
How does that happen? How do they make a call?
There's a sensor in the device that can sense the sound and movement. So there
are two mechanisms. One is by sound. If the dog barks over five times within ten
seconds, it will activate the device to make the phone call. The second is if the
pet does a specific movement, say like circling around or jumping off several
times in the road, it will also activate the sensor in the device to trigger the call.
Alright, what are some of the other features of this?
The second feature is that the six-step positioning, it can work as a tracker too.
But it has six-step positioning because in the market the regular tracker is mainly GPS
or Bluetooth like the SmartX.
But GPS can get blocked in tunnels or in buildings or underground
and Bluetooth relies on other system products, say iPhones or other cell phones
that support the Bluetooth transmission, so it has limitations.
But with the 6 step positioning, it can deal with all environments
to make the signal more stable and precise.
So it doesn't have to be, it could be inside, outside?
Outside suburban area, a mountainous area, even in a national park where the signal is
very weak and you can easily lose the signal, it can still work there.
Now I see on the brochure here it also talks about health monitoring too.
How does that work?
It's actually the spot watch for people.
On the page you press the health page and you will see how many calories the pet burns
a day, how many steps it takes and how many hours it's been exercising.
So you can monitor its steps, activity for the day.
That is fascinating.
And also after studying the data for several weeks,
for example for six weeks, our AI model will suggest
an ideal daily exercise goal for your pet.
And once you set that goal, by the end of the day,
if it has the data, it will alert you
that your pet is under exercise today.
Maybe you wanna make some time to play with it
or take a walk to keep it healthy and fit.
That is just fascinating. Now,
I assume that you have different styles of phones for different pets, different collars, things like that, right?
Yes, well actually we now have this.
It's for both cats and dogs, but you have two colors to choose from because you want
to make it as compact as possible so that it will be easier and more comfortable for
either a cat or dog to wear.
So is this out on the market now or are we just, these are prototypes?
This is our latest model, but it will be ready by end of March and
should be in the market by April or May at the latest. I assume you've tested
this in the market somewhat. What's been the reception so far? Well this is our
first time debuting it in Europe and we've been receiving a lot of interest
and attention and we would say people love the concept and now they're just
waiting for it to be present in the market to try and use. If people wanted to find out
more information about the pet phone, how could they access that information?
We have our own website, the Glokomi, or you can find us on all social media
Instagram, YouTube and Facebook and we will be frequently updating the progress of the platform.
Once again, this is a fascinating device.
I could actually see an application of my own life for my own dog.
And so although he might be calling me all the time.
You might be getting phone calls all the time.
Lynn thank you so much for speaking with me.
God bless you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Have a nice day.
Thank you. All right. now you have to admit gentlemen,
that is just weird and unusual, right?
It is.
I'm not paying a phone bill for a dog.
I'm not gonna do it.
Like I said to the young lady in the booth there,
I would be afraid to give it to my dog F Fudge, because he'd be calling me all the time.
Where are you?
Why aren't you home yet?
I'm hungry.
I want to go outside.
Well, dog, you know what?
It probably would train a dog that if they make the call,
they get fed.
Well, there's a good point.
But there are other features to it such as health monitoring
You know it makes sure that
Your pet is being fed
Keep keep up with things like their rollout things like blood sugar
Everything that you would do in a like it's a wearable watch. It's a wearable wearable for your pet
But the but the concept that you could call your dog or your dog can call you
and it works inside and outside it is a genuine phone. It's really fascinating, it's weird,
it's unusual and we had to share it with the True News audience. Are these dog phones on the market now? You can buy them? Yes, they are rolling out on the market in April of this year.
Wow. I had to say there's gonna be a lot of people who will buy them. Yes. Yes, I believe there will. A lot of people will buy dog phones. It's crazy.
It's crazy. All right thing with the thing with the cat phone though is the cat never answers
Well, what's it happening?
We're just ignores the dogs
Imagine imagine being snubbed by a cat you keep calling your cat and the cat won't answer
And what I mean if the technology advances will dogs be able to call other dogs
What will they talk about
Their human owners all right hey any final words we're wrapping it up for a week in mobile world
Barcelona
We heard a lot of things you know for me Ray Kurzweil was the most stunning thing I heard.
He said, your phone and AI will be inside you by 2030.
And that's only five years away.
That's a very bold statement by the chief engineer of Google.
And that's where he sees things going.
For me, that's the big takeaway
that how fast they expect AI to evolve.
On the practical level for me,
it's the agent AI, agentive AI. That I, as I said yesterday, that's going to be,
that is going to move through our society rapidly this year. And by next, by the end of next year,
it's going to be common. It's just going to be everywhere. You're going to see virtual agents in every company,
every progressive company that's trying to stay ahead of the times.
You're going to see virtual agents.
A lot of people, individuals are going to have virtual agents in their homes,
their own personal agents.
Those are the two big things for me.
If I gained anything,
I didn't need to know about a phone for dogs.
But the agents, the virtual agents,
that's a game changer that's going to happen.
It's happening now because you can walk around and see
the companies that are offering to sell or rent or build
the virtual agents for you. They're here. So it's happening right now. Ray Kurzweil's stuff,
he's been predicting 2030 for a long, long time. And he's not backing down. He's not changing his story.
I believe we're living through the most fascinating years
in the entire history of mankind.
Ladies and gentlemen, a very, very warm welcome to MWC Barcelona 2025.
As you walk around MWC this week,
there is no denying the incredible impact
that connectivity has on our lives.
What I've seen here in Barcelona convinces me
that the people here in this room,
the people at this event,
are driving
forward new technologies that will change the world.
This industry is both brutal and yet so beautiful.
You know, human beings think of 10,000 thoughts.
9,990 of them we probably wouldn't tell another human being.
But we would tell a machine.
This isn't just about smartphones and laptops.
This soon will be about our car, about our home, about everything.
The real transformational impact from AI is really still yet to come.
I hope you're leaving today feeling a little wiser, more inspired, and even more determined
to drive meaningful impact when you return home.
I thank you and we'll see you next year. All right.
Hey, thank you for sending us here.
We appreciate every one of you who contributed financially.
And those of you who have prayed for us, thank you so much.
On behalf of Doc and Eric and Paul, I'm Rick Wiles.
Thank you for watching True News.
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