TRUNEWS with Rick Wiles - Part Human, Part Machine. Neuralink Human Trials Have Begun!

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Be wise. Be ready. American Reserves. Rick Wiles here with True News. I am traveling in the western United States this week, attending some very important meetings. I'll be gone all week, but I have something really special for you this week. I am convinced you're going to like it. Here at Faith and Values, we are introducing a new podcast. The podcast is called Next Tech News, and it will be co-hosted by our own Paul Benson and Eric Rodriguez. You don't want to miss these podcasts. So make sure you watch every day this week, and I'll be back next week. Here's Paul and Eric.

Welcome to Next Tech News. I'm your host, Paul Benson. On this podcast, we're going to be covering the latest in artificial intelligence, quantum computing, transhumanism, and the fourth industrial revolution. We'll be talking about companies like Apple, Tesla, SpaceX, D-Wave, and Sanctuary AI. Joining me today is Eric Rodriguez. How's it going? Pretty good. How are you doing, Paul? We're doing well over here, man. So, Next Tech News, I wanted to talk about the history of this segment, right? So, this started years ago, back when Eric lived here in Florida, and we would do this live show every morning. We'd do a two-hour show. And I just remember we'd get the office like 6 a.m. looking through articles just to do this 15-minute news update. And today you're joining

us remotely from Illinois. This is a really exciting moment for me, restarting Next Tech News. This is something that we thought would take off and we ended up just kind of fizzling it out as things got busy. But we went to a tech conference this year and just decided we're going to start this thing up again. So here we are, man. I'm so glad you're here. This has been a ton of fun just kind of prepping for this project and I'm ready to go, man. How about you? Absolutely. I'm right there with you. I remember when we first, the whole idea of joining other media outlets doing tech coverage at tech conferences and, you know, for us being able to go out to like, you know, Marble World Congress, you know, Shanghai and things like that, and being able to cover news there on these conference

floors was just, it was fun. It was a fun time to be able to learn what was going on there, but it was fun to be able to just, you know, talk about tech with you and some other people on the team then. And yeah, I'm excited that we're, we're ramped this back up again. For sure. For sure. It's been, it's been a lot of fun. So we're, we're also starting a, a next tech news community at faithinvalues.com. So this is an area where you can share articles with us that you think would be interesting, different topics for discussion, give us feedback on the show. We've talked about possibly going live in that area, and also we'll be posting additional

podcasts right on the Next Tech News community. So today we have a couple of interesting stories. We're going to start with how AI-generated video is taking the internet by storm, and also we're going to be talking about AI-generated music content. There's a big update in robotics that we'll be covering with artificial general intelligence. And we're going to cover Elon Musk's discussion on digital superintelligence. But to start things off, we're going to talk about the first human machine cyborg that is connected to the Internet and his computers using Neuralink. So the first human trial actually happening. So how does that sound for show number one here? Yeah, get right into it.

Let's go. So we're talking about Neuralink. We're going to start by watching this video. There is a press conference by this gentleman, Nolan Arbaugh, who has, he's participant one in the Neuralink human trials. So let's check out this video. Go ahead and roll it. I'm obviously the first person with a Neuralink implant. It's life-changing. It really is. It makes being paralyzed really not that bad. Just thinking about someone, say, breaking their neck or dislocating their neck, going into a hospital, and two days later, like, getting surgery,

getting an implant, something, two days later, walking out. Like, that is just, it's such a real possibility now. And that it makes me, like, so happy that other people don't have to go through this. It's everything I could have ever asked for, and to be a part of it, and to be helping in some way, to be able to be helping in some way to be able to be useful in some way it it completely changed how i live i'm waking up at six seven in the morning just excited

for the next day and that's something that i never thought would happen to me ever again it's more than i could ever ask for so thank you guys thank you guys. Thank you so much. So welcome everyone. Welcome. So Nolan Arbaugh on his, on his Twitter account, he goes by the modded quad. He has like different tags under his username and, um, he's calling him himself, you know, P one or participant one. Um, and like the, what did he say? The Skynet progenitor so um so the interesting thing about this story he's a quadriplegic um obviously you know full paralysis of all four of his limbs and he has one of those machines um where he has to blow through a tube to move his wheelchair back

and forth and and um but that's really his so much limited mobility. It's the only way he can get around. And he talked about a device that they had where he could control a mouse on a computer for only like a few minutes at a time or else his neck would start to spasm. Like he could only move a certain way. And, you know, they were able to install this chip and his and it has these wires that go into his brain um and the first thing he did was i guess play civilization 6 he played this video game all night the first night he has it um so uh this was kind of blowing up on x over the last couple weeks just his just his story. Um, and this is really interesting. Like they're starting this Neuralink, um, coverage on the internet with, with these

stories that are, I mean, that's, this is the real reason why they're doing this, right. It's for people that have these, uh, conditions and it's hard not to read about the stories and just feel like compassion for someone like that like how would i be critical of someone else wanting to use technology for mobility or you know the ability to be uh to interact with a computer or you or, you know, things that we take for granted. Right. I, so it's like on one hand it's, it's that part seems good. Right. Um, and I, and I, as we bring up these topics, I kind of want to be in the middle, right. I want the viewer, the listener to kind of make their own decision as to what they think about this technology. Is it good? Is it crossing the line? Is it, you know, beast system, you know, even, even going down this realm, like, is it, is it just, you know, getting the, like the chip in the

hand, you know, you don't want to cross that line. So obviously, you know, depending on what we're talking about, I'm going to kind of give a range of different viewpoints on this. And, you know, I usually kind of gravitate towards the middle where I can see the good and the bad in something. I would say on the more disturbing side of this, when you really think about Neuralink, something like this, someone's able to use their mind to control a computer because they don't have arms. They can't use their arms, right? So the thing that's disturbing for me is when I think about, okay, so they have right now the ability to upload my thoughts to a computer. What is the other side of that is there do they currently have the ability to download

information or put thoughts in my mind like that's that's where it's like if there's the ability to upload there's probably the ability to download um which i i mean this it's crazy we're even talking about this right someone's human the human brain and a living person is able to control a computer via wires and cables like this is unbelievable um and uh so anyway what's your take on it eric well something that stood out to me and i didn't know this initially was that he became paralyzed paralyzed in 2016 from a freak accident, apparently. So he's 29 now. So he lived the majority of his life, regular life. He was very active.

It seems like he was very involved with some children's kids camp. He was very active in that seems like he was very involved with some children's kids camp. He was very active in that. And then this accident happened. And so to go from being a very active person to being confined to a wheelchair, and then, as you mentioned, having to use a tube, blow through a tube to move around in his wheelchair, for them to go to that severe side of things and then all of a sudden get this opportunity courtesy of Neuralink to be able to kind of have some of his life back again I don't I'm not mad at him for being excited about what he's able to do I mean it's obviously you know it's it's allowing him to participate in ways that he hasn't been able to do so in the last eight years but at the same time, yeah, absolutely.

I'm with you there as far as the ability to upload and download whatever it may be during this process is quite concerning. Go ahead. So the other level of this I was thinking about is what if this becomes like a normal thing in society? So, you know, like the vaccine, right? If anyone that had the vaccine was almost like treated like high society in a way. Or, you know, you had your vaccine and you're able to be around people. You're able to go to work. You were able to participate in a number of things.

Like, so what if there's a, there comes a day where this becomes this kind of technology just becomes very normal. And it's, it's almost like, like, do you have Neuralink?

If you're, especially in the business, like the tech world, you know, what if people that have Neuralink are statistically 70% more productive because they can interface with computers and AI? So I mean, in a way it's like, if you're not into this like transhumanism thing, I'm thinking, you know, 30 years up ahead, will people that are just normal human beings be almost like

looked down upon or they're like you know the minimum wage workers i don't know if that's if it'll go that far but you have to think that way like where where's the where are they taking it right right because these these people are thinking that far out in the future so you know it would be fair for us to kind of think the same thing like where are they going with this what what's the end result what would things look like the next five years really in the next two years um yeah that's my concern too is like will people line up to get this even if they don't have a need like this nolan does you know could you and i just walk up and say hey you know what i'm gonna sign up for neural link today because i want to be able to have, you know, this improvement in whatever area of my life that, you know, your computer system is going to allow me to access.

And or am I going to be, are we going to have trials? Are people going to sign up, healthy people going to sign up to have this done to be able to start trialing this upload and download, you know, idea? Right. I think people will, I think it's going to get crazy. Um, especially if they have really good success with these first trial runs. I mean, it's just so terrifying to even so many problems come with that, right? Like thinking about, you know, the ability for bad actors or governments to put a thought in people's you know

control the masses right i mean this is like this does kind of go along this whole crazy ai takeover you know b system side of it but all right well moving on um let's go to number two so this next clip this is a clip that that r Rick sent over, and we're going to talk a little bit about AI and spirituality. So this is just a clip from another podcast, and it's called Discover the Intersection of Tech and Spirituality. So let's just watch a minute of it here. On one hand, there are biases and flaws built into technologies, but also the industries that are making the technologies are attaching particular political and social visions to those technologies, usually the vision of a tech CEO, for instance. So for a number of years now, we have what you could say is a kind of nascent artificial intelligence religiosity.

You raise an intriguing point, Zach. The fervor and enthusiasm surrounding AI in Silicon Valley can indeed resemble a kind of techno-religiosity. The Way of the Future Church offers a fascinating example of this phenomenon because it was founded by a former Silicon Valley engineer and promotes the idolization of artificial intelligence as a deity-like entity capable of surpassing human intelligence. So in a

previous work i was also looking at this podcast actually has like has ai in the room with them and i i kind of lost it when i saw this i was like this is actually a brilliant idea but yeah um and you know i think they're kind of they're probably using some kind of post-production smoke and mirrors to make this work. But I mean, it is cool just to think AI is in the room in this podcast, able to talk and speak and give its opinion. And they're probably just feeding prompts into chat GPT and getting some responses. But first off, that's kind of interesting to think about the ability for AI to be listening and, you know, able to respond with what's going on when you have a question. And we have that now with our phones, you know, I can say, hey, Siri, and it'll, you know, it'll respond and give something back that I have a question.

And I'll come back to that because it'll lead to the next topic. But just what they're talking about, an AI religion, AI replacing God or man, and this way of the future church. So I looked a little bit into this just to see if there was anything new with the way of the future. There actually was, because I had heard about this when it came out. I guess it was announced in 2016, right when AI was like the buzzword in the tech world. It was shut down in 21 and looks uh, looks like the owner or the guy who started it, Anthony Lewandowski went into some, um, uh, stole some IP from Google and brought it over with him to Uber or something like that. Um, so anyway, but recently in November of 2023, there were, there's a number of articles of him restarting this church.

And it seems gimmicky, like it just doesn't seem like anything almost even worth talking about. Because I mean, what is an AI church and AI God? All of this seems gimmicky to me, but the more I thought about it, uh, the more it, I feel like it's, it's anything in the beginning in its infancy does look kind of funny and gimmicky and silly, but I, I feel like where this is going, this is the start of something probably pretty disturbing. Um, and so let me, let me put you in this mindset, Eric. Like imagine if AI is, and it's almost even at that point right now. Imagine when AI is able to just literally have a cognitive conversation with you.

At any moment, you can just talk to AI and it's going to talk back to you. Like there's a persona that's going to know you and know information about your life. It has data about you. Imagine having a deep emotional conversation with AI, almost like a counseling session. What if people begin to have these like connections with AI that's, um, you know, kind of like a human connection or even like a God connection. Um, the more I thought about this, uh, the more it freaked me out, you know, and, and for younger generations that are going to grow up, you know, 15, 20 years ahead from now, uh, when this technology is just far beyond, uh, where it is today, um, how confusing that's going to be where, you know, instead of going in their room

and praying and, um, you know, opening their Bible up for wisdom, they're going to be able to just at any time talk to this almost infinite wisdom, knowledge, capable AI that's able to hold these conversations and give what will probably be pretty good advice. What are your thoughts on that and that's i mean it's pretty it's pretty terrifying so yeah i know i'm with you as far as you know um people just having conversations especially deep conversations that are private that are yeah counseling type sessions that you know as far as we know, the majority of these AIs, these large language models, they're open, these companies are taking this data to train their models to make them even

better. Now, there are some models now they're coming out where you're able to download them locally, and it's not connected to the internet. So it's just basically whatever data has been trained and stored on that, that language model is there locally. And then you can kind of do your own thing there securely. But I was thinking as you were talking two things, one for a couple of years now, personally,

I kind of wish that's that like Apple Siri wasn't so dumb, honestly. Like, this last go around last year, they took away the ability where you don't have to say, hey, anymore. You just say Siri as if you're talking to Paul. My phone just lit up. Sorry. Hold on. And, you know, it's like having a conversation, which I thought, this is cool it's like having a conversation which i thought this is cool i'm having a conversation but the same time in this case apple's ai is not really that smart it doesn't

really talk to you that well i'm like why can't it understand some basic information like i want to know scores i want to know an answer to a certain question that should be fairly simple but it's requiring me to open up my phone or my ipad to get more information like you already have the information just tell me like i want to be able to just talk to you because this is what i feel like you're designed to do right but i feel like that's where we're going to be heading and maybe android users are already saying yeah our phones already do that and that might be so so personally i would like to see where if i'm going to have this thing on my device i want to be able to have it i want i want it smarter i want

to be able to communicate with it right at the same time yeah it is go ahead that's definitely the next gap like right now yeah chat gpt was was like the next huge step forward just because you're able to type into a prompt and you're able to get amazing results back. And it's becoming better and better. And we're going to talk a little bit about that. And real quick, I want to say too, like as you were talking about, I forget what part you had said now, sorry, but you made me think about our kids. Our kids right now are used to saying Alexa or Google Home or home or siri or whatever other ai is out there common right now i have a little niece and nephew that comes over and starts talking to my home pod thinking it's alexa and you know as if it's like a person in the room and so these younger kids are are coming up with this idea that i don't need to text anymore. I don't need to learn how to type. I can just talk. And

at one hand, it's cool. You can just talk to a computer or a device or a system and it will spit out answers. But at the same time, is it dumbing down the next generation or two to be able to do things with computers or devices? Or are they getting set up to be able to do things with computers or devices, or, um, are they getting set up to be able to embrace anything AI like this church, like your, your local county official becomes an AI or something? I don't know. Just that, that thought kind of got my mind as you're talking about, as our young kids are growing up with this technology. Just imagine, you know, once they get our age, what this technology is going to look like and how comfortable they're going to be with it. To what degree is it going to really cross the line for them?

I don't know. I just that thought just came in as we were talking. Yeah. I mean, they're going to be very comfortable with it um and you know on one hand it's going to allow for some amazing creativity and business opportunities for them um but there is this i feel like this dark side is that's always been there with technology that just kind of it just kind of consumes you right if you're enjoying Next Tech News, I want to ask you a very special request.

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Again, if you would just take a few minutes to do that, that would be a huge help. We really appreciate it. All right, back to the show. On the topic of kids, let's actually bring up the next element here, the article on The Verge talking about the AI gadget era. And when I was at Mobile World, I had seen the Rabbit little device. It's just like a tiny little device. I didn't know you saw that you saw in person uh yeah yeah and and they were they were um there's little um there's a number of different devices that are are being released and not for just children but you know they're just cool um and they um the the one i wanted to talk about though is,

is the pin, the humane AI pin. Yeah. And Eric, you know a little bit about this. I, this, this is interesting because we were just talking about bringing AI with you or having that conversation with AI. And I think this is one of the gadgets that stood out to me as like something that kind of is starting to bridge that gap and make it normalized. Um, the whole idea, it has its own SIM card and it just kind of clips on your shirt. So it's always connected and you're able to ask it questions

like about your calendar. Um, there's a cool like interface where it like beams light onto your hand and you can do some different things but i think just the idea of having it there and being able to ask a question and have it give you a response just even if you don't have your phone if you're just out and about having a conversation with someone that seemed really interesting to me it's like they're bringing ai into every conversation wherever you bring uh the pin so what. So what's your thoughts on that? When I first saw it announced, I thought it was kind of a really neat device that they're one of the few companies, and you're going to start seeing more companies doing this, where they are eliminating the need for apps.

So the whole purpose of this design, part of the reason from these founders was basically to eliminate the need for screens to keep our faces from looking down all the time to actually be up looking around engaging with what's going on around you as opposed to always having your screen you know in your face basically and that idea is really cool you know you're staying engaged and you don't have to worry about a device you know always having to be in your pocket or whatever. But it's interesting. Yeah, this is a great example of, you know, how AI can become incorporated through your daily life. You know, they give examples where, you know, there's someone that you walk up to who is speaking a different language and you could quickly tap the button and say

something in English and then translate it into whatever this other person's language is and have a conversation that you may have never had before, you know, outside of using Google Translate on your phone. But as it stands right now, Paul, that it's kind of there is a bit of a security barrier in there where you still require your finger to tap on the button in order to engage the AI. But where this is going is eventually that the AI is this pin. You won't need it to tap. It's just going to be available always on, always readily available to start talking to you or capture information.

And I don't know. It is, it's kind of cool to see it, but it reminds me of, of the show person of interest where you always have an AI in your ear, always readily right there to talk to. And that's kind of freaky, um, as well. And it kind of like, kind of like the whole theme of this show so far, it's kind of cool, but kind of freaky at the same point as to what these people can do with this technology exactly exactly so next up I want to go into Sora so we're using open AI and and and chat GPT for tasks daily and actually leading

control if you want to actually pull up openai.com slash Sora. So what Sora is, is it's an, it's an AI model that creates these videos from, from text. So essentially you can type in a scene that you want it to generate and it will create it. Um, this is, it's real. It's, it's not released to the public yet. So there's only a small handful of creators that can, that can create content. Um, they released a new short that at first glance, it was just, I couldn't believe that it was AI generated.'s take a look at this short film called airhead Well, they say everyone has something unique about them. Something that sets them apart.

It's just in my case, you know, it's quite obvious what that thing is. I am literally filled with hot air. Yeah, living like this has its challenges. Windy days, for one, are particularly troublesome. Or there was the one time my girlfriend insisted I go to the cactus store to get my uncle Jerry a wedding present. What do I love most about my predicament? The perspective it gives me. You know, I get to see the world differently. I float above the mundane and the ordinary. I see things a different way from everyone else. Yeah, and I feel like it's because of that perspective I'm reminded every day that life is fragile.

We're all just a pinprick away from deflation. So I try to live life with a lightness, a buoyancy, a joie de vivre. I got a lot of ideas keeping this thing full. With any luck, I'll find a way to share them with everyone else. Okay. This is incredible. I mean, the leap from where this technology was like a few months ago. Eric, you brought this up when we were talking about it. It has just become almost like a joke to like, oh oh this will never catch on this will never be

useful to like oh my gosh when i saw that video for the first time i was like this is they had to have used actors like they had is this like a blend of like real footage and no this is a hundred percent ai generated scenes um so yeah tell us a little bit about how that like what you've seen as far as this progressing just in like the last six months. I mean, it's pretty wild. Actually, Lee, I just added into our panel sheet, if you wanted to play it real quick in the background, to just show our what AI was like about a year ago when it came to text prompt video engineering, basically. You know, this right here is an example. Go ahead and roll it real quick. I think it's worth showing.

Yeah, right. So this is AI generated video one year ago. So keep that in your mind, one year ago. And then just, you you know then go back to that you know the airhead video you don't have to play it again but um the airhead video it looks so realistic in just one year we're seeing this advancement of how fast technology is is racing here um you know and it's all coming down to just simply hey i just text and it creates a video i mean it's caused a lot of concern in the industry these days because you know a big name

person tyler perry you know he's known for making lots of movies lots of films and has a production studio he was on the verge of building an 800 million dollar production company or film uh studio sorry and he came out just in february of this year saying hey he's putting it on hold because he is concerned about what this um sora is going to do to the industry um you know 800 million dollar studio expansion atlanta according to variety has put uh been put on hold or sorry the back burner due to his growing concerns over developments and artificial intelligence he goes on and says there's got to be some sort of regulations in order to protect us if not i just don't see how we survive wow what are your thoughts

on that i mean yeah you brought this up. It's, um, I haven't really, it hasn't really hit me like how many current businesses that currently rely on the way things are right now without AI and what this is going to look like. So there's this rush to, um, pivot and embrace it as it's being developed and it's not even useful yet. So it's at this like really awkward moment. That was really interesting to me. I actually think we should keep running through some of these additional videos.'s two more videos that they that Sora and chat GPT they're kind of dripping out this next one is a kind of like meshing different animals together let's go play it welcome to beyond our

reality a journey through parallel worlds where we delve into the extraordinary. Episode 1 unveils the giraffe flamingo, a stunning hybrid that roams the savannah with grace and vibrant hues. In Episode 2, we ascend the eel cat, an aquatic enigma that combines the sleekness of an eel with the curiosity of a cat. Episode 5 presents the bunny armadillo, a delightful mix of bunny charm and armadillo protection, captivating our hearts. Episode six features the horsefly, a small yet noble creature that buzzes with a blend of horse-like dignity and fly-like agility. Episode seven explores the reptilian Aroo, a creature that leaps across the desert with the vigor of a kangaroo. You know, this stuff's cool.

I mean, I could see children getting an assignment, you know, to create something cool with AI. And then they have to go and, you know, create a story. You know, so that's the side of this that's really intriguing. And it's things like, you know, I grew up in this tech era. But to think about, you know, someone that doesn't know how to do video editing or, you know, like I couldn't create something like that, that we just watched as silly and ridiculous as it was like, that's something that that but i could sit there and type out hey make a flamingo giraffe hybrid you know standing next to a lake and then it and then it's right in front of me like yeah

that that is it's insane um and it's kind of cool to think about how like as far as filmmaking short films um even if you had a brand and you were wanting you needed to create all this video for social i mean i'm telling you in the next 10 to 15 years ai generated videos are going to be everywhere they're going to be so good you're not going to know what's real or what's fake like we're seeing it right now it's already there and it's about to be released this stuff's just incredible it really is and it is drawing a lot of concern even where youtube is coming out with uh you know they're gonna start requiring labels or something to uh identify that it is ai because this stuff is looking so real i was watching the other day where it showed a news anchor, the real versus deep fake

or real versus AI generated, whichever you want to call it. And it was so, so incredibly close. If I would just walk in the room and saw it, I probably would have fallen for that. It was the real person and not a deep fake. So, you know, there's got to be something to identify.

Otherwise, you're going to have people just lose their minds if people are just generating things um especially when it comes to real people there's got to be something to at least um identify as such and if you want to go ahead and play the um the third video and we'll just talk over it because there isn't any audio i think the audio is is probably from a real band. But this is the first like official music video that was created by Sora. And it just has a lot of like ethereal footage. But I mean, just think about how long it would take someone to sit down and create footage like this. Like for a band, like I would think this would be like maybe, you know, weeks of work with a really talented graphic artist, you know, maybe a month to generate all this video footage. But literally they're able to piece together by using a simple prompt.

They're able to create this stuff. And anyone will be able to as well very soon. And as we're watching this, I also wanted to bring up this other article about the YouTube training data. So this was interesting to me. We're thinking that everyone's thinking that chat GPT is going to, um, or open AI will kind of take over the world, but they they're going to have this very strong foothold in this industry because they were first to something and they will. Um, but I found this, this article was interesting about YouTube actually. YouTube CEO Neil Mohan actually said that they were warning their own AI and have their own use.

It would make perfect sense for them to restrict access to YouTube only to work with their own AI. And I just wonder if that's like kind of a monopoly or whatever, but you're going to see these different silos and multiple different AI. You're already seeing it now where you're going to have to almost be able to navigate the AI landscape to know how to create what, where to go to get what that has access to whichever platforms and content. You know, I thought that open AI and chat gpt would essentially have its tentacles and everything um but this is something where you're seeing that youtube's probably going to be cut off from that

yeah i know in it yeah you're right to think like they'd have their tentacles and everything and they did you know there's an article that just came out here recently where um apparently open ai uh trained open air chat gpt on over a million hours of youtube videos and they didn't have permission to do so and so uh we're seeing a lot more uh companies such as like youtube right you know right here this article and others coming out saying hey wait a minute you don't have permission to do this. And basically, open AI, get your tentacles out of this because you're stripping data that is not legally yours to be able to use. So it's going to be interesting to see how this plays out with different companies and where open AI can pull data from outside of everyday human beings injecting data into it. So moving on to number five, I wanted to just illustrate how easy it is to create this stuff.

If you're someone that's been like, I don't even want to touch AI, this is all so much over my head. And I know this episode is probably like pretty mind blowing. Um, but I wanted to just give you an example. Um, this is one tool called suno.ai. If you want to pull it up, um, this is, uh, like an interface. So as he's, I'm just going to have them scroll through. These are all AI generated music, uh, songs that you can just scroll through and listen to. None of these artists are real. None of this music was recorded. Nobody wrote these lyrics. And it sounds, some of it sounds silly right but this is the beginning this is

at its infancy of what this technology is right um okay so and as a musician this is stuff that's that's interesting to me um i i actually took a moment and ended up just throwing into into the prompt before we did the show i was like all right i'm gonna write a song for the episode today so i wrote uh speaking of anybody being able to make a song here's an example right right right exactly i just i simply typed out a lo-fi chill beat song about doing a podcast while AI and robots take over the human race. So I was like, you know, obviously joking, tongue in cheek, whatever. Um, all right, go ahead.

And if you want to play the chorus of that song. As the world around me comes undone it seems I'll keep on talking, try to keep it cool Echoes of the human race in this digital haze Okay. okay so i i envision studios and labels just knocking out your door tonight paul right i mean so you type this in it generates that took two minutes so on some other part of the planet uh a graphics card was spinning up and creating this you know this chorus and it's talking about ai and robots taking over whatever um and so okay so number one it's kind of crazy that we can you know the true news and us trying to play video and audio content, it's always such a headache to deal with licensing and all this stuff. Like I was able to just generate something, um, in a couple of minutes that we can play on the air and not worry about, you know,

getting sued by the creator. I mean, it, you know, because it's just, nobody owns that content, right? I'm the owner of that content. I I'm the one that typed that into, or who is the owner of that content? We don't even know. Right. I mean, um, it's, it's, it's kind of in a crazy new world that we're in. Um, but that was just to illustrate like how easy it is to create this content.

And I mean, so Eric, what's been your experience with ChatGPT since it's rolled out and like what things have become easier in your job and what's it been like just being able to have that as a tool? Just being able to just spark some ideas real quick. You know, we've been in different meetings where we're thinking about podcast names or, you know, brand new company names or just kind of some goofy ideas. And we're able to quickly go to AI to ask what it would recommend to us. And then that will kind of, you know, it's helping to just rewrite some items that, um, you know, we're working on different projects here that where we want to update our descriptions or something, and we can quickly give it the old description and say, write new in this certain way.

And it's able to spit it out versus, you know, it's almost like having a content creator, entry-level content creator there for you to kind of help you move through projects quicker. Um, you know, I think it's super helpful and I really like it. It does make the job, content creator there for you to kind of help you move through projects quicker. You know, I think it's super helpful and I really like it. It does make the job quicker, easier. I know lots of us use it. And I would bet to say a lot of us would say the same exact thing. I know even sometimes there's engineering questions on how to do something.

Right. Ask chat GPT. Exactly. It's helpful. Yeah, it's helpful. It gives gives you that it gives you the start like sometimes the hardest part with certain creative minds is like just starting the engine starting the process right and um you know for like musician or or video content creation like it's it gives you a beginning like i could create a a beat and then it would you know i could then build a song around that um so to moving on to our final item today we got about 10 minutes left so there was this conference with uh elon musk

and peter dimandis and uh this is on peter's youtube channel if you're interested to watch the whole interview it's called elon musk on agi safety which is artificial general intelligence safety super intelligence and neural link and um this was uh taken from their uh abundance 360 summit in 2024 so i just wanted to watch the first 30 seconds of this clip go ahead and roll it the advent of super intelligence it is actually very difficult to predict what will happen next so i think that's you know there's some chance um uh that it'll end humanity i think that's you know like i said i would probably agree with jeff hinton that it's about, I don't know, 10% or 20% or something like that.

The probable positive scenario outweighs the negative scenario. It's just that there's a – it's difficult to predict exactly. Okay. So here's the deal. So I'd recommend if you're interested in this topic, out that that full video um but i wanted just to have elon musk uh in his initial comments there to start this conversation so uh just to reiterate what he said he's talking about the 10 to 20 percent chance that ai ends up destroying the human race. Um, but in the same breath saying that the probability of abundance is far greater. And, um, I mean, it's just, this conversation is so crazy. It is,

it is crazy that we're having this conversation today and that this is really happening in our lifetimes. Um, you know, you have this small percentage of the worst possible scenario. You could even comprehend happening, right? This thing that everyone in the U S has been terrified about since we watched Terminator. Like, yeah,

it's just, he just says it so casually. Like, it's just like, you know, I'm picking up my kids today. Like it was just so casual for him to say that because he's been thinking about it for years so yeah yeah and you know i've been listening to elon musk talk you know for years and he he always has this this um

stance where it's like it's if i don't do it or if we don't do it, someone else is going to do it. So I might as well just do it. Right. Which I get it. But it's this conversation was just pretty mind blowing. And, you know, I what they're what they're trying to balance is this what they call quote abundance that's the latest kind of buzz world in this um tech conference world um abundance is something that they they talk about this like semi-utopian ai future and they're they're looking at a future where you can just simply, any kind of goods or service, food, anything you could imagine that you would need, at some point, everything becomes very, very affordable and you can just have it. And Elon Musk talks about the cost of services are at almost nothing in the utopian future that they're working to create. And then he talks about in that world,

how do humans find their relevance? There would be some that would look at that vision of the future and think that that sounds pretty nice. There's some that think look at that utopia like that vision of the future and think that that sounds pretty nice there's some that think that sounds incredibly depressing like um where you have everything you could possibly want like that just sounds like this um but you know with consumerism and everything in the united states it's just everyone is rushing towards this and pushing for it. Um, maybe not everyone, but a lot of people are, everyone's gravitating towards it. Um, and it was interesting just listening to this conversation, peeking behind the curtain is to see what they're actually thinking about and, and this, this abundance and that's going to be in the future. It's all Yeah.

Question here. So where he says, how do we as humans still find relevance? Something that came to mind right away was UBI universal basic income. That's every time I keep I hear that clip, my mind goes to that wondering if this is a way to usher in this thing that was all the rage here you know just a few years back and it's still kind of here and there but it's not as in your face as what it once was but that keeps coming to my mind when as you're talking and reading you know these statements about what elon was in that video was okay let's say you know the 70 80 90 that survived this AI takeover are those people gonna still have relevancy and if so okay great but those who don't

are are we gonna see the you know Wally in real in real life happen and there's going to be this UBI that comes into play in order to sustain these people to continue living? I don't know. That was kind of running through my head. Are we going to see an increase of UBI talk coming in the next couple years or so? like in this, if things go this way, the people that will be on top will be those that control and operate AI that were able to embrace AI, um, sooner than later and got on top of it. Everyone else is, there's going to be like a new upper middle, lower class system where, you know, the lowest class essentially has access to everything that they need. But, you know, and we're going to do a couple of episodes this week while the team's traveling.

If I can find it, I'll pull up this video on tomorrow's show. It really kind of captured this utopia that they were talking about creating and like how depressing that life actually could potentially be. Um, you know, I, I think the more you have robotics and drones and everything that you say monitored and, um, you know, it's, it's, there's this feeling that it's just, I know that there's positives and, and I don't want to just be someone that just says, you know, we don't want to embrace any of this new technology. Like, no, we're using it, but the whole other side of it, you know, we're talking about losing our humanity. You're losing the soul of like what it means to be human.

And, you know, here in the United States, we have the freedom of speech. We can say whatever we want. Well, we did until now, this whole new era of being canceled and,

uh, all these different silos in the internet where you, you know, you can't say whatever you want anymore. You can't criticize a certain, uh, topic or what's happening in the world without being labeled something, right?

Or you're kicked off a platform, right? This show that we're on right now isn't on YouTube. Why? Because, I don't know why, it's a podcast, People talk about stuff. Like that should be completely fine. So but that's the dark side of it, right? Where AI is everywhere monitoring what you say and your actions.

There's so much more to talk about. We're scratching the surface here this is just a few this is a handful of articles really from the last couple of weeks and this is why we're rebooting this show because it's moving faster and faster um you know um i heard i overheard doc today in the office and he was talking about how uh even when they're building true news it's like they almost have to choose what not to talk about. It's not about what we can fill into the show, but it's almost what we have to weed out of the show. So anyway, we're going to be hitting some amazing topics. We ran out of time

today to talk about robotics. So tomorrow we're going to be covering sanctuary AI if you've never heard of sanctuary AI you're gonna know about it if you watch tomorrow's show this is we're gonna be covering D wave this company that started the world's first quantum computers they have come out with a new robotics line, uh, a general purpose robot that is just mind blowing. I'll talk about it a little bit, give you a preview of it. But, um, this, this system is really incredible. Um, I've been following this company for years. Uh, you know, there's some like robotics companies that come out and it's, it's like, okay, yeah, that's really cool. These guys are going to be doing something in the industry for

sure. They're, they're poised to do it. Um, these robots are going to be definitely dispatched into, um, a number of different, uh, facilities, manufacturing facilities. Um, quick push for faith and values. Again, like this content you want to know more and experience more about this be sure to go to the next tech news neighborhood on faith and values where you can post interesting articles and we'll definitely check them out and it might even make its way on to another episode of next tech news so on on behalf of Rick Wiles and the team, Eric, thank you so much for joining me today. This has been a lot of fun.

Yeah, man, we'll be back at it tomorrow. This is Paul Benson. Thank you so much. God bless you. We'll see you soon. www.wcr.org You can find True News on frequency 12.160 from 12 p.m. to 4 p.m. Eastern and on frequency 4.840 from 10 p.m. to 2 p.m. Eastern. Connect with us on Rumble, Facebook, X, and Getter. At American Reserves, we're excited to bring an unbeatable offer

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