TRUNEWS with Rick Wiles - Red Cross Red Alert Over Bio Lab Security Amid DR Congo’s Violent Revolution

Episode Date: January 28, 2025

Few Westerners are paying attention to the fighting in the Democratic Republic of Congo. Intense fighting has raged for days between the Hutu tribe and Tutsi tribe. Today, Rioters attacked several for...eign embassies – including those of the US, France, and Belgium, demanding that Western governments aid the DR Congo to fight against the advance of M23 rebels. Over 400,000 people have fled their homes to escape the fighting in the streets.Rick Wiles, Doc Burkhart. Airdate 01/28/2025Join the leading community for Conservative Christians! https://www.FaithandValues.comYou can partner with us by visiting TruNews.com, calling 1-800-576-2116, or by mail at PO Box 399 Vero Beach, FL 32961.Get high-quality emergency preparedness food today from American Reserves!https://www.AmericanReserves.com             It’s the Final Day! The day Jesus Christ bursts into our dimension of time, space, and matter. Now available in eBook and audio formats! Order Final Day from Amazon today!https://www.amazon.com/Final-Day-Characteristics-Second-Coming/dp/0578260816/Apple users, you can download the audio version on Apple Books!https://books.apple.com/us/audiobook/final-day-10-characteristics-of-the-second-coming/id1687129858Purchase the 4-part DVD set or start streaming Sacrificing Liberty today.https://www.sacrificingliberty.com/watchThe Fauci Elf is a hilarious gift guaranteed to make your friends laugh! Order yours today!https://tru.news/faucielf

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Starting point is 00:01:01 Intense fighting has raged for days between the Hutu tribe and the Tutsi tribe. Now, today, rioters attacked several foreign embassies, including those of the United States, France, and Belgium, demanding that Western governments aid the DR Congo government in the fight against the advance of M23 rebels. Over 400,000 people have fled their homes to escape the fighting in the streets. Now there is a reason. I am starting today's True News with a report about fighting in the Congo. So just stay with me and I'll explain it. This is True News for Tuesday, January 28, 2025.
Starting point is 00:01:47 So let's begin our commentary and analysis of today's news by looking at this BBC report, Rebels Kill Democratic Republic of Congo Governor as Fighting Intensifies. Doc, I have not paid attention to this at all until today. And, you know, I've seen the headlines. Right. You know, we're looking at hundreds of headlines every day. I just scan past it. Okay, it's rioting in Congo.
Starting point is 00:02:15 What's new? Until I put one thing with it. Yes. And then suddenly it's true news time. Right. Okay, now I have a reason. So let's first take a look at the fighting that's taking place. We're not going to go into deep detail.
Starting point is 00:02:32 So these are scenes from the Democratic Republic of Congo over the past several days. What's happening right now is this is a response to the recent assassination of a DRC governor that was killed. Riding in the streets, responding, looting, of course, and direct attacks on various embassies, including the U.S. Embassy. A variety of scenes here as we look at different activities going on in the Democratic Republic of the Congo. You see people leaving the city to get out of the fighting. 400,000 have been displaced. On the move. I think that's the U.S. Embassy there.
Starting point is 00:03:15 That's right, yes. So what you're seeing right now is a portion of the U.S. Embassy on fire. Several international embassies were set ablaze. Most were managed and controlled. But this is the attitude, and this is another scene of the U.S. Embassy here, by the way. So this is the attitude, and this is the tension that's going on right now in the Democratic Republic of the Congo. Now, this fighting and infighting has been building up since the first of the year, with M23 rebels seizing a great portion of territory and a general breakdown in overall rule throughout the Democratic Republic of the Congo.
Starting point is 00:03:59 The roots of this thing, this goes all the way back to the Rwanda Holocaust in 1994. Yes, and I'm glad you called it a Holocaust instead of a genocide because it was a step above a genocide. That was one of the worst things that's ever happened. What was it, 800,000 people were killed? Right. And part of the conflict here has to do with the M23 and the accusation by the Congolese government that it's being backed by Rwanda. Really, the fighting is over control of a specific area of the Congo that has large mining capabilities. And very rich in minerals.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Yes. Okay, now do you see where this is going? Right. But there's something even more dire. Well, if I could elaborate a little bit more on the mining. Sure, go ahead. The mining company in the Congo is Glencore. And that's a name that's popped up on your radar a number of times through the years.
Starting point is 00:04:59 They are financed and funded by BlackRock. Okay. And sometimes companies and financial companies, things like that, sometimes think they're bigger than governments. And that's part of what's going on here, too. The number two player in mining in the Congo is China. And so you have two competing mining interests for rare earth minerals in the Congo from two different perspectives. So is China behind one side and Glencore and Western investors behind another one? Well, that's where the logic would take you, wouldn't it?
Starting point is 00:05:39 I mean, one side funding another side for control of that mining territory. The question is, it's so murky right now, who is funding who? Right. But that's not what caught my attention. I know. I kept seeing minerals, but the thing that got my attention was this next article. This is from New Delhi TV in India. Lab holding Ebola virus in Congo's gamma at risk amid fighting, says the Red Cross.
Starting point is 00:06:08 So one of these bio labs. Right. This happens to have the Ebola virus. Yes. And it's sitting there right in the middle of all this fighting. Yes. Who's guarding the lab? Now that's a great question.
Starting point is 00:06:24 Is there anyone guarding the lab? Now that's a great question. Is there anyone guarding the lab? I would think not. I mean, we've seen this in Ukraine. And Goma is in rebel-held territory. It's in M23 territory. Well, the Red Cross put out a red alert about the danger of this bio lab falling in the hands of either party, that the government loses control of the laboratory. And there are deadly viruses in the laboratory,
Starting point is 00:06:57 Ebola being one of them. And so this New Delhi TV article says, the Red Cross voiced alarm Tuesday, yesterday, over the risk that fighting in the besieged DR Congo, city of Goma, could cause samples of Ebola and other pathogens held in the laboratory to escape. The International Committee of the Red Cross is very concerned about the situation in the laboratory, the National Biomedical Research Institute, which is facing a risk of power cuts. Yes.
Starting point is 00:07:30 According to the International Red Cross Regional Director for Africa, Patrick Youssef. He's speaking to reporters in Geneva. He said he stressed the importance of preserving the samples that may be affected by the clashes, warning of unimaginable consequences if the samples, including the Ebola virus that it contains, were to spread. Yosef highlighted that the laboratory was very close to the Red Cross delegation, but he had no idea about the safety of other labs in the city. Now, this fighting has been going on for really for about a month, month and a half. It's really gone on for years, but it's intensified the past month and a half and really intensified in the past couple weeks. So the question is, if they're worried about this now, is it possible
Starting point is 00:08:28 that maybe these labs were breached even before now? And the Red Cross is just now talking about it publicly? Right. Because we'll see in a minute, in Australia, they waited several years.
Starting point is 00:08:43 Yes. Let's take a look at Congo. So this is from December of 2024. This is from the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy from the University of Minnesota in Minneapolis. Lab results expected soon in DR Congo's mystery outbreak. Mystery outbreak. Notice this is December, December 5th. There's a mystery outbreak.
Starting point is 00:09:14 A mystery outbreak of what? It's a mystery. They don't know what it is, and it's killing children. Right. Most of the victims have been children. Next one is science alert december 2024 december 9 mysterious fatal disease x outbreaking congo still can't be explained now do you understand why i opened today's true news with the fighting in Congo. So this report, again, December 9, says a mystery disease recently struck the southwestern corner of the Democratic Republic of Congo,
Starting point is 00:09:55 killing between 67 and 147 people over two weeks in December. The disease was reported to cause flu-like symptoms of fever, headache, cough, and anemia. An epidemiologist told Reuters that it was mainly women and children who were seriously affected by the disease. Little is known about the disease.
Starting point is 00:10:18 Health officials are urgently investigating the incident to identify the cause of the deadly outbreak. Now, again, this is about the time that the fighting started. Right. And you have to wonder, did the invading rebels, this MS-23 gang, did they get into the laboratory? Did they breach the labs?
Starting point is 00:10:47 And would they go so far as to not admit that M23 or whoever it might be breached the labs and then come up with some sort of disease X, mystery disease, in order to cover up what's happening? Is it possible they know what it is? How long have we been told that disease X is coming? We have for several years now. Bill Gates? I mean, even during COVID, we were being warned about disease X. Bill Gates, President Biden, others said disease X is coming.
Starting point is 00:11:19 And now we're seeing disease X in the news out of Congo. Yes. In fact, the WHO back in January of 2024 said we need to be aware of disease X. It's coming. So they've known for a while. It's been released. Yes. Another press release. This is December 2024, December 12th, cases rise in unexplained Congo outbreak amid testing challenges.
Starting point is 00:11:53 It quotes the Africa CDC director, John Kasia, Dr. John Kasia. He said, this means we have a major public health issue in the DRC. Nearly 42% of the cases have been reported in children younger than five years old. Now, let's go to Australia. Also, in December 2024. Yes. Same time period. Same time period. Same time period.
Starting point is 00:12:28 December 8th. Look at this. This is Australian Broadcasting Corporation. Australia, December 8th, 2024. Investigation launched in the Queensland lab breach with virals of Hendra virus. What is this? Lysa virus and Hanta virus missing? Hanta virus. I know what Hanta is.
Starting point is 00:12:52 What's Lysa virus? Listeria. Listeria? Yeah. What is Listeria? It has flu-like symptoms, but excessive. I mean, we're talking hemorrhaging, internal hemorrhaging. I've had people who had hysteria, but not hysteria.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Okay. And Hantavirus is connected to rodents. So what happened in Australia? Well, what happened is nearly 100 live samples of the deadly Hendra virus were lost in a biosecurity bungle at a state-run Queensland laboratory. Now, an investigation has been launched after it was revealed that 323 virus samples went missing from the virology laboratory when? In 2021, in a major breach of biosecurity protocol, according to Health Minister Tim Nichols. Now, this material, according to this story from ABC Australia, which included samples of the Hendra virus, Lysavirus and Hantavirus, appears to have gone missing after a freezer storing the samples broke down.
Starting point is 00:14:00 Okay, so in December of this past year, that's a month ago. Yes. Australian officials said, oh, by the way, three years ago, we lost 100 samples of deadly viruses. We forgot to tell you. We're holding the press conference now. We were very busy for three years. Now we got a break. And we just want to tell you 100 samples were missing.
Starting point is 00:14:31 But rest assured, Rick, there's an investigation underway. Of course. According to Tim Nichols here, we have a sound bite of him. And he's the health minister of the Queensland province. Yes. Now I want to stress that there have been no, there have been no public health incidents linked to these materials. So we have no evidence so far of any event occurring as a result of the loss or the destruction of these materials. The department is taking all necessary steps to ensure that it does have the appropriate regulatory matters in place. It is liaising with the Federal record keeping bodies and the Federal accreditation
Starting point is 00:15:11 bodies as well as with our own Department of Agriculture. It has investigated it. It's taken a year to get that accreditation so that the investigations can take place. The investigation and opening of the locked freezer took place in 2024 where a further review of the materials was kept and a better record of what was supposed to be in there versus what was found to be in there was able to be made. So the investigation that I've asked the Director-General to instigate is the next step in the process of finding out what happened there. It's important that we understand what went wrong.
Starting point is 00:15:51 It's important that we understand how it can be done better and it's important that we reassure the public of Queensland that there has been no evidence of any infection as a result of this breach of the protocols relating to the administration and record keeping at the lab have occurred. Doug, did he say what I think my ears said? He said. What did you hear? That it took them three years to get the paperwork done to do an investigation.
Starting point is 00:16:20 I heard a year to just do the paperwork. That's what I mean. But they didn't open the freezer for three years. They didn't get to the freezer for three years. Yes. I heard that part of it. Sure. Well, the Queensland Chief Health Officer, which is a different position here,
Starting point is 00:16:42 says that the vials do not appear to have been stolen, which makes it even more interesting. Listen to this. There's nothing to suggest that these have been taken from the laboratory. Secondly, Hendra virus, well none of these viruses have, we don't have any evidence that Hendra virus has been weaponized in any way in any research laboratory. Of course all this kind of research is taken in secret but I'm not aware that this has been weaponized
Starting point is 00:17:14 in any way. And the process of weaponizing a virus is a very sophisticated and it's not something that an amateur does. No, you need somebody like Fauci. Right. Fauci knows how to do that. Yes. Or a bio lab. Right. Anywhere in the world. Any bio lab. So he said, there's no evidence the viruses, the missing vials were stolen. But they're missing. They're missing. So
Starting point is 00:17:39 why don't you just put a notice up on the laboratory bulletin board and say, we're looking for 100 vials of deadly virus. If anybody has it in your desk, could you bring it over and drop it off? Right. Maybe put one up in the break room, too, so everybody sees it. And the gym. Right. But apparently, I guess the public believed it.
Starting point is 00:18:06 The story doesn't hold up. They waited three years to even open up the refrigerator. Do you think we should go in there and look in the refrigerator? Right. So in a story like this, if they'll sit on this for three years and not reveal information, don't you think that they would do the same thing if there was an outbreak in the Congo, let's say? Of course they would. Of course.
Starting point is 00:18:32 Just like they sat on the information about coronavirus. Yes. And now the new CIA director, Mr. Ratcliffe, he's saying, well, we got a different story on it now. It was a lab leak. That's the way they're approaching it now. Right. So that's not a conspiracy theory anymore. Right.
Starting point is 00:18:53 But, well, another thing on Australia, Doc. What would be the security around a refrigerator? I mean, what do they got, a GE refrigerator? Westinghouse, maybe. A Westinghouse.
Starting point is 00:19:14 What do they have? Do you put your sandwich in there, too? Do the employees put their lunches in there, too? I mean, what kind of refrigerator are you talking about? So what is the security and the security protocol at a biolab with viruses that could kill the entire human population of the planet? What is two different things? What's the actual security? And what's the protocol to open the refrigerator door? Because he wants you to think.
Starting point is 00:19:52 Well, I don't know what he wants you to think. It took him three years to open the refrigerator. Right. I bet if you told him there was a turkey sandwich in there, he would have got to it three years ago. So, what's the level of security? It's something as simple as a bank safety deposit box. Do you have one? I do.
Starting point is 00:20:18 So when you go to the bank, do you just walk in, just go in and get it, open it up? What do you have to do? Nowadays, I have to provide two forms of ID when I go in. You have to give two forms of ID, and then what? And you have to sign some paperwork, and then you're giving access to the vault. And then a bank employee comes with the other key. Yes. Because your key won't open it.'t open it. It takes two keys.
Starting point is 00:20:48 So are you telling me that there's more security at a bank, at a Wells Fargo bank, for a lockbox than there is at a bio lab to get into the refrigerator with deadly viruses? Do you have to at least have two keys? Is there a lock on the refrigerator? That's my first question. Give me a break. How many cameras are in the room? How many security guards do you have to go past to get to that room? You tell me there are no security guards guarding a refrigeration unit that has deadly viruses?
Starting point is 00:21:32 Can the maid go in there on cleaning day? And if they can be lost that easily, then the natural assumption would be they could be stolen just as easily as well. Of course, you have to assume they're stolen. Because they don't have any idea where it's at. And even if they were stolen, they couldn't come out and say it.
Starting point is 00:21:50 They're not going to tell you. They're going to say, folks, I tell you this, we had a bunch of viruses stolen from the lab. They're not going to do that. Years ago in Great Britain, there was one of these stories, and it was very embarrassing, porting down. And then later they said, oh, hey, we found it. It was behind the water cooler or something. Yeah. They came up with some story.
Starting point is 00:22:18 We found it. It's over. Don't worry about it. Somebody put it on the counter while they were getting some water out of the... When we talk about the Hantavirus, just a moment, that's the bubonic plague. Yes. Okay? That killed millions of people in what they called the Black Death.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Mm-hmm. Okay? Why are you playing around with this stuff? What if the sane people of the world passed a global law that says you can't play with these viruses we're gonna put you in the refrigerator okay i know what their counter argument would be their counter i know well the bad guys that you know they're working on these viruses and so we've got to keep up with the bad guys. Right. Well, usually it's we're working on a vaccine just in case one of these viruses in the natural is turned loose.
Starting point is 00:23:17 We'll have a vaccine. No, you're making biological warfare agents. That's what you're doing. You're planning to kill large numbers of human beings with biological weapons. Now, let's go to Kansas. Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is now the largest in the United States since the 1950s. Kansas. Yes. Now, it's interesting. This is, of course, I lived in Kansas for a while, southern Missouri, but it says in this story from public radio in Kansas City, a tuberculosis outbreak that started in Wyandotte County, Kansas, has grown to be the largest in the U.S. since the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention started tracking the illness in the 1950s. In a state senate committee on public health and welfare, Ashley Goss, a deputy secretary for the Kansas Department of Health and Environment, told committee members the outbreak is unprecedented. She said although numbers are trending downward
Starting point is 00:24:16 since the outbreak developed last year, the health department is working with two large employers to monitor for more cases. We do expect to find more, but we're hoping the more that we find is latent TB and not active so that their lives are not disrupted. Now, Jill Burdow, the state health department's communications director, confirmed this is the largest tuberculosis outbreak documented in the U.S. since the 50s. The outbreak is still ongoing, which means that there could be more cases, Brennan told the Kansas News Service. Well, what's at the source of it, Doc?
Starting point is 00:24:54 Well, they have several chicken farms and hog farms in Wyandotte County, Kansas, and that's been the center of attention here. And it got enough attention that it popped up on ABC News. Do hogs get TB? You know, I don't know the answer to that question. I've never heard of a hog with TB. Right. I've never heard of people with TB, except maybe, you know, stories from long ago.
Starting point is 00:25:19 I can remember. I mean, I never knew anybody, but I can remember as a kid hearing parents and grandparents saying so-and-so has TB. It's contagious. Right. Your lungs collapse. That's right. And like you said, it is contagious. If you're exposed to people with TB, you have to have prolonged exposure.
Starting point is 00:25:39 But for me, one second with somebody with TB is prolonged, right? Yes. Well, this got up to enough attention that popped up on ABC News this morning, and they had a story filling in some details about this. Let's watch. First, we begin with the state at the center of an unprecedented tuberculosis outbreak. Kansas is reporting the largest documented number of cases. Eva Pilgrim has the latest developments. Eva, this is, of course, an ongoing situation, so there's concern that there could be more cases. Good morning. That's exactly right, Robin. This is an active outbreak,
Starting point is 00:26:13 and health officials expect there could be more cases. It is the most deadly infectious disease in the world, but it hasn't been a major concern here in the U.S. for many decades, until now. This morning, health officials in Kansas are dealing with the largest documented outbreak of tuberculosis in U.S. history. There have been two deaths, along with 67 active cases. TB is one of the world's leading infectious disease killer and is spread person to person by germs that can stay in the air for hours. You do need prolonged contact with an infected individual. You know, if you briefly come into contact with somebody in the community, it's not very likely that you're going to contract tuberculosis.
Starting point is 00:26:55 The exact reason for this specific outbreak is not yet clear. Kansas public health officials found dozens more have latent TB, meaning they are infected with the TB bacteria, but they do not have symptoms and cannot spread the infection to others. While TB rates in the United States have been declining since the early 90s, including by nearly 20 percent during the first year of COVID, rates began climbing in 2021 and 2022, surpassing pre-pandemic levels in 2023. Now, there is a TB vaccine that leaves a little circular scar. It is commonly given to kids in countries where TB is common, but it hasn't been commonly used here in the U.S. because historically the numbers here, y'all, have been so very low. I know that's what is so concerning. So we're
Starting point is 00:27:43 going to have much more a little bit later because Dr. Narula is going to be here because there are a lot of questions. Well, Doc, this is troubling, and we don't know where it came from. But I'm putting this out here to you today just to keep you on your toes. Stay alert. Everybody's very happy right now. Mr. Trump's in the White House. Everything's going just great. But there are things out there.
Starting point is 00:28:16 What did they do to him in his first term? They sank him with COVID. They destabilized his re-election campaign with COVID. They destabilized his reelection campaign with COVID. Right. And they crashed the economy. So they destabilized him with a disease that killed you less than if you took the vaccine for it.
Starting point is 00:28:39 Yes. Right. The Trump vaccine. But the vaccine was meant to kill. Yes. It was the kill shot. But the vaccine was meant to kill. Yes. It was the kill shot. Well, hey, what about the drones? This one's getting weird.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Now, that story just dropped off the face of the earth, didn't it? But today the White House brought it back, the Trump White House. Well, he brought it back because last week, remember his off-the-cuff press conference in the Oval Office? One of the folks, one of the reporters asked him about that. And he turned to Susie Wiles and said, hey, Susie, make a couple calls and let's find out what's at the bottom. Can you imagine just walking over and saying, hey, Area 51, can you give me a readout on that? Or whatever it might be. But he turned to his chief of staff, Susie W Wild, and said, give me a breakdown on the drones.
Starting point is 00:29:27 Well, it came out today. Here it is. Look at that headline. White House says New Jersey drones were authorized by the FAA. This was not the enemy of ABC Channel 7, New York City. The White House is providing
Starting point is 00:29:43 an explanation for the drones that were spotted over New Jersey for months. Many of the drones were authorized to be flown by the Federal Aviation Administration for research. Well, what were they researching? Yeah, tell us what you're researching. Why didn't the FAA tell us this months ago? Yes. Instead of, you Instead of letting weird rumors and stories. Why not just on the first day
Starting point is 00:30:10 just say, oh, we know what this is. Remember I kept saying, look, it's the law that every aircraft has a registration number. Right. And the FAA has to they know every aircraft that's in the air. And if they don't know who it is in the air, then it's a foreign aircraft that has to be removed.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Right. So there was no way that drones were flying around up there without the FAA knowing about it. So now the Trump White House is telling us, we called the FAA and they said, oh, yeah, yeah, we approved them. Well, yeah, they were fine. They were just doing research. Well, what was the research? Yes, and it also says, and various other reasons. Yes, what was it?
Starting point is 00:30:53 What were the other reasons? And why didn't you tell the American people? Yes, and no one asked the follow-up question in the press briefing. Well, what research? That should be the logical. What are you researching? Bird flight patterns? Locusts? What are you researching? There are no journalists at the White House. There hasn't been a reporter at the White House
Starting point is 00:31:17 for years that asked questions. Ask the questions. Did the press secretary, did she ask some questions? Did she say, hey, I'm going to call the FAA and ask them what's going on? I mean, it's not Donald Trump's fault that the drones were there, but it seems like he's being told
Starting point is 00:31:40 here's the official answer, go with it. So are they not questioning the official answer, or do they know more about the official answer, and they're not telling us? Right. And I'm going to go with the second one. I am too. They were told, you don't want to talk about this. Well, the White House Press Secretary, Carolyn Leavitt, first press briefing in the administration, had this to say. This is actually a statement from President Trump that she's repeating here. Let's watch this. I do have news directly from the President of the United States that was just shared with me in the Oval Office.
Starting point is 00:32:19 From President Trump directly, an update on the New Jersey drones. After research and study, the drones that were flying over New Jersey in large numbers were authorized to be flown by the FAA for research and various other reasons. Many of these drones were also hobbyists, recreational, and private individuals that enjoy flying drones. In time, it got worse due to curiosity. This was not the enemy. can't and the first word starts with a b okay something so what were they researching yeah i'm just an honest question nuclear radiation biological release of some type of biological weapon what were you researching right and compare this to the announcement that we learned about yesterday where the fbi and various other agencies are saying, oh, hey, everybody, we're doing a big test up in New York on nuclear preparedness and everything like that. Don't be worried.
Starting point is 00:33:34 A major nuclear incident. Right. You're going to see people walking around in hazmat suits and everything. Don't be alarmed or anything like that. And compare that to the drones. Right. alarmed or anything like that and compare that to the drones right i mean if i mean if they really were from fa you would think they would come out and say hey uh we're going to be doing some activity you know what so it makes most people just feel it makes them feel safe if the government
Starting point is 00:33:59 says hey we're doing um we're doing a national defense scenario. Right. Okay, can't go into it. It's national defense. All right, nothing. It's just a practice. Okay, we're just doing some stuff. You're going to see some drones.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Everybody's going to say, okay, that's fine. All right, you're doing what you're supposed to do. Right. But when you lie, and they did lie. Yes. They outright lied. And the question is whether they're still lying. Because right now, the way it is when it comes to government, I'm like, when I approach a roundabout, I look both ways.
Starting point is 00:34:34 I mean, I don't trust the government at all. So I have to ask the question, are we still being lied to here? Can I trust Trump? Or did Mr. Trump just take the answer that was given to him and he passed it on and he never asked any more questions? Or was he told, Mr. President, you don't want to talk about this? This is of such high national security, you cannot talk about this. I go with the second one. He was told, this is too important, you can't talk about this. I go with the second one. He was told, this is too important.
Starting point is 00:35:06 You can't talk about it. Which then makes you ask, well, what is it? What were they doing? Be ready. Just be ready. Always be ready. Don't be caught by surprise. Don't be caught like this man in Tokyo.
Starting point is 00:35:24 Kyoto News. Large sinkhole like this man in Tokyo. Kyoto News. Large sinkhole swallows truck near Tokyo. Haven't had a sinkhole story in a long time. I know. That's where the truth went. Yes. The truth about the drones, it went into that sinkhole. Well, a large sinkhole swallowed a truck Tuesday after appearing at an intersection near Tokyo.
Starting point is 00:35:43 Look at the size of that. With fire authorities working through the day to rescue a man who was trapped, believed to be the driver, police received an emergency call this morning after the sinkhole, about 10 meters in width and six meters deep, opened up in the ground in Yoshio. The man was initially conscious and capable of talking. According to fire authorities, two male rescuers sustained minor injuries after sediment fell on them while they were trying to use heavy machinery to rescue the man. Well, that doesn't look like just earth in there. That looked like a tunnel. It did, didn't it?
Starting point is 00:36:21 So he was driving over top a tunnel. Was it a subway tunnel or a underground road that the government uses? To me, it looks like the street collapsed. Right. There was no earth beneath. Okay. Let's run that video again where you can see the interior. Wait till you get to the part. There you go. There you go. Look at that. That's a good-sized hole there. But it's not, but it's, that's a wall.
Starting point is 00:36:53 It does look like a wall. It is a wall. He fell into a tunnel. Well, that just deepens the mystery even further. And no, I didn't mean that as a pun. You can see it right there. It's a wall. It's a road underneath the road.
Starting point is 00:37:14 The government has secret roads. I know they do. Yes. And you aren't in the club. RT, Biden administration tried to kill Putin, says Tucker Carlson. He just blurted this out. That's right, with Matt Taibbi in an interview. I have a feeling he was given this information when he was in Moscow. Probably so.
Starting point is 00:37:43 Said the administration former U.S. President Joe Biden tried to assassinate Russian President Vladimir Putin during the Ukraine conflict, according to Tucker Carlson. In an interview with Matt Taibbi yesterday, Carlson suggested that many former and current U.S. officials have been rattled by Donald Trump's campaign to declassify numerous government papers as they see the potential fallout as extremely dangerous, especially if news like this was to get out. Here's a clip from Tucker Carlson's program where he talks about that topic. I think that's one of the reasons that Tony Blinken was pushing so hard for a real war, trying to kill Putin, for example, which the Biden administration did.
Starting point is 00:38:27 They tried to kill Putin. Really? Yes. Yes, they did. Wow. Which is insane. Like, okay, so he takes over Russia. Right.
Starting point is 00:38:34 And what happens to the nuclear arsenal in a country that's like so complex, outsiders can't even understand. I mean, you live there, you know. Yeah. That's demented that you would even think of something like that. Absolutely. So why were they? Because chaos is a screen that protects them. I mean, I don't know this.
Starting point is 00:38:51 That's just like watching what they're doing. I'm like, why would they be doing that? Well, maybe they want World War III. Maybe that's... We were not exaggerating during the Biden years that we were on the verge of a nuclear war. As the Biden team is gone, more is coming out. So the Kremlin in Moscow responded. Russian President Putin is well protected from any potential threats, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said on Tuesday. He was responding to a claim by
Starting point is 00:39:26 Tucker Carlson that the administration of Joe Biden planned to assassinate the Russian leader, asked to comment on the, to confirm or deny that there was a target on Putin. He said, quote, Russian security services continuously take all necessary measures to ensure public safety and the safety of those under state protection, first and foremost, the head of state. That's all he had to say about it. That's right. And that's all he needs to say about it.
Starting point is 00:39:58 Now, Mr. Nikolai Petrushev, the one I refer to as Darth Vader of Russia, he gave an interview to a Russian newspaper and he answered questions about the possibility of a settlement of the Ukraine war. And he said, let's look at this issue from the point of view of the economy. Why would NATO countries abandon their military plans? Same thing we've been saying here for months. The flywheel of the U.S. military-industrial complex has been launched and is making a profit, and refusing money is not in the traditions of the Americans. So, Petrushev is saying, why would the American
Starting point is 00:40:49 warmongers and NATO, why would they want to end the war? They're making money. Yes. And they're upgrading their military. Yes. They have no interest in ending the war. Because what they've done, and Petrushev says this, having it transferred almost all expired obsolete weapons to Ukraine, now Europe has loaded its defense enterprises with
Starting point is 00:41:10 orders creating modern weapons. And even from this point of view, the interest of Western countries in prolonging hostilities is visible, the assistant to the head of state said. So basically what he's saying is Europe and the U.S. has been able to offload all this old equipment to Ukraine. Both sides. Russia too. Both sides used up their World War II weapons. Right.
Starting point is 00:41:34 All right. That's where we're at right now. That was the only goal. They used it up. They got rid of all that old World War II weaponry. Now they're into the new stuff. And their factories are ramped up to make more. And Russia's doing it. Yes.
Starting point is 00:41:51 That's what's kept the Russian economy going in spite of sanctions. Look at this next one. This is Tass. Putin said Zelensky is illegitimate and cannot sign the documents. And he's right. Zelensky is not the authorized head of state of Ukraine. His term expired over a year ago. Yes.
Starting point is 00:42:15 And Putin is saying, if we're going to have negotiations, Zelensky can't be there. He has no legitimate reason to be there. He's not the president anymore. Anybody who has ever done, say, a real estate transaction involving a bank mortgage for commercial real estate, and it's a corporation buying it or a nonprofit like a church, because I've had to do this when we bought our church property. We've had several properties over the years. So when you go to the bank, one of the things that the bank loan officer says is,
Starting point is 00:42:58 Rick, the board of directors must give the bank a notarized document that you are authorized to sign these documents. They require it. Yes. Because they want a legal document that says you and you alone are the person who is authorized by the board of directors to sign these loan papers. That's standard practice. You can't have somebody in a legal setting signing documents who isn't authorized to sign. And what Putin is saying is we're not sitting down with Zelensky. He's just a citizen.
Starting point is 00:43:46 Right. With no power. And let's just say that in our corporation that you were authorized to do that, but it was a set time limit that expired last May. Well, then you're not authorized. I'm no longer authorized. Because that expired last May. And if I did it, if I went ahead and signed, the bank could come back and charge me with deceiving them. Right. And that's a federal law.
Starting point is 00:44:13 I mean, it's a federal crime. You sign loan documents with false information, you have deceived the bank. And they can actually have you prosecuted. So what's coming up is the replacement of Zelensky. Yes. Before the war can be settled, Zelensky's got to go. They have to have an election and elect a president. It has to be legitimate. A real election, at least. You know, how would we know it's legitimate?
Starting point is 00:44:52 Well, if the U.S. would donate Dominion voting machines, then, Doc, we would know it was a legitimate election. Right? Because Dominion voting machines cannot be hacked. They're not connected to the internet, and no foreign government can hack them. I believe that, don't you? Are you okay? No, see, I watch the news, Doc,
Starting point is 00:45:17 and I also watch the lawsuits. There are lawsuits, okay? People that don't believe that have been sued. I believe it. You can't hack them. You can't hack them. And they're never hooked up to the internet. And nobody, the Martians, nobody can get into them.
Starting point is 00:45:37 So, if you want to have a legitimate election in Ukraine, the State Department should donate Dominion voting machines to Ukraine, then the whole world knows it's a fair, legitimate election. That's the way I would handle it. Then you know that the guy that gets elected is real. So, see how you can solve
Starting point is 00:46:00 these problems? I mean, people that went out there and said that these voting machines could be hacked, they got sued. They got wiped out financially. They got
Starting point is 00:46:15 disbarred as lawyers. Right. But only if you said it after 2020. If you said it prior to 2020. You were a Democrat. That's right. You were a Democrat at that point. So my recommendation, send the Dominion voting machines and have a legitimate election. Elect a new president.
Starting point is 00:46:35 It could be Zelensky. He could run. Oh, did I? I guess I forgot. Oh, I saw a video over the weekend of Zelensky as a comedian. Oh, the dancing video? The dance. Did you see that?
Starting point is 00:46:51 Yes. I'll let you try to find it. I'll go on with the news. I meant to show that. Izvestia, Putin indicates the possibility of ending the war in two months. Okay, now we're starting to get somewhere. That tells me the White House, the U.S. State Department, Marco Rubio, Lavrov are talking to each other. Both sides are saying, let's wrap this up in 60 days. General Kellogg
Starting point is 00:47:29 had said maybe 100 days, a little over three months. So Putin is now saying he thinks we can end the war in two months. So he would not say that if he didn't have something from Washington to give him the belief that the U.S. is serious about it. Did you find a video? Yeah. So we had this yesterday and didn't get an opportunity to get to it, but Donald Trump is asking for an audit of all money being sent to Ukraine, right? And so this would be a good video.
Starting point is 00:48:05 Right. So this is the man that the United States gave over $100 billion. Oh, close to $300 billion. Is it $300 billion? You count it all. That's the guy. Had a cape and everything. So he's got some pretty interesting dance moves there.
Starting point is 00:48:22 So not my style, though. That's who the West put in power. Folks, we almost had a nuclear war over this guy. Over that guy right there. Okay. Who is not the legitimate leader of ukraine a jewish comedian who somehow got elected in a country that had very few jews and and the world almost went to a nuclear war and that's him not very funny is it no it's not it's actually very sad. Well, this is what Putin said.
Starting point is 00:49:07 He said the Kiev regime in a month will not exist if money and, in a broad sense, cartridges stop. Everything will be over in a month, a month and a half, two. In this sense, the sovereignty of Ukraine is almost zero. So basically, President Putin is saying you cut off the supply of money to Ukraine, Ukraine collapses. And the ammo. It's over. Putin clarified that anyone can negotiate with Russia on the part of Ukraine, what is it, Hovna, that's the parliament, the parliament, should sign documents based on the results of decisions. So, okay, so he's saying they're willing to have a representative of the parliament sign the settlement. It could be like the Speaker of the House.
Starting point is 00:50:05 They're saying, we'll take that. But not Zelensky. But not Zelensky. He said Zelensky cannot sign documents since his powers expired on May 20, 2024. Financial Times. The Rothschild newspaper. The EU and NATO take a vow of silence on Greenland. Well, just yesterday, the Austrian army general said, we're going to send European troops to Greenland. Today, the Rothschild-owned Financial Times says,
Starting point is 00:50:47 shh. Don't talk like that. Don't talk like that. And what they're saying in the article is, you're going to stir up Donald Trump. Just be quiet.
Starting point is 00:50:59 And they literally said, hopefully, he'll get his attention on something else and forget about Greenland. There is some truth to that. Well, the EU and NATO have taken a vow of silence. This is the way the Financial Times is reporting this over Greenland.
Starting point is 00:51:15 After Denmark requested its allies refrain from reacting to Donald Trump's threats to seize the Arctic island. Copenhagen's strategy of avoiding public confrontation with Trump, which four officials said was closely coordinated with NATO and the EU, underscores the scramble among U.S. allies to work out how to handle the president's pugnacious diplomacy. I like that phrase, pugnacious diplomacy. President Trump had a fiery 45-minute call with Denmark's Prime Minister, Met Fredriksson, last week, putting Copenhagen into what officials described as crisis mode. Mr. Trump is certain to target tariffs against Denmark and has refused to rule out taking the Arctic island by force. But now a new attitude is prevailing, and this obviously has taken place in the past several days.
Starting point is 00:52:06 The article goes on to say a low profile seems to be the safest bet with Trump. Hopefully, he will be distracted by something else. Did you read the line here? Did you read where he said that Denmark was going to defend Greenland with dog sleds? Yeah, I didn't get down to that partland with dog sleds? Yeah, I didn't get down to that part. With dog sleds? Yes. Trump said that he will get Greenland while mocking Copenhagen's dog sleds defending the island where the U.S. has the biggest military presence.
Starting point is 00:52:37 I can just hear that conversation, can't you? He said, what are you going to fight me with, dog sleds? I mean, I can land troops there. What are you going to fight me with? Dog sleds? I mean, I can land troops there. What are you going to do? And the island only has like 50,000 people. Right. And most of them seem to be in favor. They would like to join the U.S.
Starting point is 00:52:56 Okay, the next one. This is awesome. Why not news? Let the Israelis move to Greenland, Iran says, after Trump suggests moving the Gazans out of Gaza during reconstruction. So Iran's foreign minister said, look, instead of moving all of the Palestinians out of Gaza, just let the Israelis move to Greenland. Yes. And then the problem's solved. Okay?
Starting point is 00:53:31 So Greenland is like in the center of everybody's attention right now. Yeah, no one cared anything about Greenland a year ago, and now it's on everybody's plate. We have a clip of the Iranian foreign minister expressing his desire to see Israel move to Greenland. And this was an interview he did with Sky News. Yes. Watch this. Well, I think this is a project many people tried to do in the past, but they have all failed. You know, Palestine cannot be deleted from this region and Palestinians cannot be expelled. So my suggestion is something else. Instead
Starting point is 00:54:11 of Palestinians, try to expel Israelis. Take them to Greenland so they can kill two birds with one stone. So they can resolve the problem in Greenland and Israelis so it would be a good place for you don't think the Israelis have a right to live in what they regard as their homeland well everybody has the right to live but nobody has the right to occupy others lands and this is the land of Palestinians and Palestinians should decide for their land and their destiny. Peter Robinson Which is what's at the heart of the matter. Rick Archer Right.
Starting point is 00:54:53 Peter Robinson That's all it is. Rick Archer By the way, the land that Israel now occupies was not the first choice. They had other options that they were considering before. Peter Robinson Africa. Rick Archer Yeah, Africa. they had other options they were considering before Africa and I learned this last week Rick and I didn't know this before did you know that there was a proposal
Starting point is 00:55:12 to grant Arizona and New Mexico when they were still territories in the early 20th century when they were still territories to grant them grant that land no I've never heard this and there was also a couple when they were still territories, to grant them, grant that land. No, I've never heard this.
Starting point is 00:55:27 Yes. And there was also a couple of ideas about taking the peninsula of Alaska and making that an Israeli homeland. Now, I'd heard about the Uganda one, and I think another one was Madagascar. They said, let's put them all on an island out in the Indian Ocean. But, no, I found out about the Arizona and New Mexico proposal. So Greenland. That they rejected out of hand, both the Alaska. So Greenland's not out of question then.
Starting point is 00:55:56 I mean, they were living elsewhere beforehand. Hey, they're like, there's $3 trillion in minerals there? Yeah, don't say it too loud. That's why they call it Greenland, because it's green like money, Doc. You know, here's a simple way to understand the Palestinian problem. If I put it to you like this, you're going to get it. I don't know why I've never said it like this. So, we have a problem with illegal immigration here.
Starting point is 00:56:29 Right. In the past four years. I mean, there have been estimates that Joe Biden allowed maybe 20 million illegals to come into the country. Okay. So you get to the place where there are so many illegal immigrants in the land that you tip the country. Okay? So, you get to the place where there are so many illegal immigrants in the land that you tip the scales.
Starting point is 00:56:50 Right. There's a day when they say, you know what? We're in the majority. You're now the minority. That's what happened to Palestine. The European Jews
Starting point is 00:57:03 started infiltrating. They really began in the early 20s, 1920s. As soon as they conquered Russia, the Bolshevik Revolution was Jewish, Jewish communism. They conquered Christian Russia. As soon as they got Russia under control, they then set their sights on Palestine. And so they started infiltrating Palestine in the 1920s, the 1930s, the 1940s, all through World War II. Hitler was working with the Zionists. Hitler's Third Reich actually financed the Zionist occupation of Palestine
Starting point is 00:57:47 because Hitler wanted to ship the Jews out of Germany. He's like, okay, I'm with you on this. Before he got the idea of the concentration, they were going to transfer. Read the transfer documents. The transfer agreements. The rest of Europe wanted the Jews out too.
Starting point is 00:58:03 All of them. So read the transfer agreements. It's probably here on my shelf somewhere. The transfer agreements. Just read that book. It talks about the negotiations between Hitler and the Zionists. Orchestrated by Lord Balfour. Yes. So in the eyes of the Palestinians, the way they see this, if you could sit down with them, they would tell you there were so many illegal Jewish immigrants in Palestine that one day they just took over.
Starting point is 00:58:38 And they had brought in guns and grenades and mortars. And one day we found out they're armed. So think about, if you put it in a perspective here of all the Latin Americans have come, most of them are, they're not violent at all. But what if they formed militias, paramilitary groups inside the United States. And what if they were smuggling in weapons for years? And then one day, they just rose up in American cities and said, we're an army. And they started killing Americans.
Starting point is 00:59:17 And let's say they occupied Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and California. Yes. That's what they did. That's what the Jews did to the Palestinian people. Yes. And in 1948, Great Britain just said, we're done. We're out of here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:32 We're not policing. We're tired. We're not blown up. We're not policing this anymore. Right. And it wasn't Arabs killing the Brits. It was the Jews. They blew up the King David Hotel.
Starting point is 00:59:43 They were going to kill Churchill in London. So that's really what happened to Palestine. In the eyes of the Palestinian people, they were taken over by illegal immigrants. Okay, get back to the story. Jerusalem Post, there's going to be a Donald Trump Netanyahu meeting next Tuesday in the White House. So Bibi's coming in to work that deal about getting rid of those two million Palestinians. The first foreign leader to visit presidential office. The first one.
Starting point is 01:00:18 The first one to get in the White House is a Zionist. Did you see the— i didn't include it did you see the photograph of pete hegseth arriving i thought i did provide that i don't see it on the panel i did have the video yes him arriving at the pentagon as the new secretary of defense talking about his um did you see his bodyguard? Yes. Did you see where there is? There it is. Look at that man in the back. That's Secretary Hegseth's security guard.
Starting point is 01:00:53 They're watching out over him, I'll tell you that. Yeah, this is the video of the arrival here and everything. So this is Pete Hegseth showing up for his first official day at the Pentagon. There's our friend. At least he's wearing a hat to keep warm. And you'll see a security guard. That's the security guard, right? Oh, yes.
Starting point is 01:01:18 There he is right there. Okay. So is he Mossad? Well, that was my thought. They get a Mossad agent. Oh, surely not, Doc. How dare you accuse them of having – what's wrong with – Okay.
Starting point is 01:01:33 All right. For all you folks that are fans of Zionism, what's wrong with that? Right? Mossad's the best security in the world, right? Right. They're watching out to make sure he's okay. So who is really running the Pentagon? It's not Pete Hegseth.
Starting point is 01:01:50 He's just the guy up front. The real power in the Pentagon is the number two man who didn't want to be in the first job because that's too public. Yes. It's a billionaire. Okay? job because that's too public. It's a billionaire. I don't know if you want to go to it. Yeah, this is number 31. Number 31 for control.
Starting point is 01:02:16 Steve Feinberg. That's the man who's running the Pentagon. He's Deputy Secretary of Defense. A billionaire and his wealth is in defense contractors. Yes. He makes his money with war. Yes. He happens to be a member of the tribe.
Starting point is 01:02:37 And he makes his money at war. And the man in the top job is guarded by a man who's a member of the tribe. Yes. Got all that? Who's running the country? Number 32, Fox News. Mexican cartels fired Border Patrol agents. That was probably the last time they're going to do that, Doc.
Starting point is 01:03:02 Yes. Because Mr. Trump's going to send troops into Mexico. There's no doubt in my mind. He'll send troops. Oh, yes. It's going to happen. Just ask Pancho Villa. He tried that years ago.
Starting point is 01:03:18 Yeah. General Pershing. That's right. It was General Pershing that went in there after he won it. Of course. Oh, I'm forgetting now. Military or political? Military. General Patton. Patton.
Starting point is 01:03:30 Lieutenant Patton. Lieutenant Patton. Yep. Pershing and Patton were the ones that went after Pancho Villa when he crossed over into Texas and killed Texans. And so anyhow, this is, you came across something today that Don Trump Jr. posted. Which one? All right.
Starting point is 01:03:56 So now, I don't know if you've ever been exposed, and we've talked about this once or twice over the past few years, about the letters, what's called letters of marks and reprisals, okay? So if you're looking for an effective, efficient, DOGE-compliant way to combat Mexican drug cartels, especially those now threatening to target U.S. planes deporting illegal aliens, which has started here yesterday, you will really like this
Starting point is 01:04:25 thread proposing letters of mark and reprisal as a possible solution. Now, in the Constitution, there is a provision that allows for what are called letters of marks and reprisal. Now, we don't use that in common vernacular nowadays, but basically what it was designed to do initially, what was going on in the early years of our nation is pirates were out there on the waters off the coast of the U.S. And they would capture colonial ships, sometimes English ships. They'll capture the cargo. And then they would also capture the men and force them into forced labor on these ships.
Starting point is 01:05:07 Okay. And so part of, you know, in developing us as a nation was to include letters of marks and reprograms. Now, what does that do? That allows us to, instead of creating an army or sending the military after these pirates out in the open waters, what we do is we give you a letter and we say, you can go and catch these guys. And what we'll do is we'll let you keep part of the loot that you capture as long as you rest back and bring our people back. And these were basically private mercenaries or government-funded pirates that were fighting other pirates out in the open water.
Starting point is 01:05:50 And so the idea here is that – Part mercenary, part bounty hunter. Right. But authorized by the government. I mean they had full – You can kill as long as the government says you can kill. That's right. And so the idea here is that instead of getting the U.S. military directly involved in wiping out these cartels. They privatized it.
Starting point is 01:06:11 They privatized it. You go knock out the cartels, whatever loot that you get, money that you recover, you get to keep part of it. And our founding fathers put it in the Constitution. Yes. It was that important. Yes. That it's in the Constitution. Yes. It was that important. Yes. That it's in the Constitution. So Don Trump Jr. brought it up on social media.
Starting point is 01:06:30 And I'm surprised. There's a large conversation on social media. So you know where that's going? Oh, we're going to see a letter of reprisal. But you're going to have American men who are ex-commandos who are going to go into Mexico and get these guys. Right.
Starting point is 01:06:51 And it's going to be like a hunting trip. That's where this is going, Doc. And the U.S. can say to Mexico, we did not invade. Yes. There was no military involved. You may be dealing with
Starting point is 01:07:09 people illegally in your country, but the U.S. government is not there. It's a legal way to invade Mexico and bring the cartel guys back, dead or alive. Right.
Starting point is 01:07:25 If the letter says dead or alive, you don't have to bring them back. Right. You just bring their bodies back, collect the money. It's going to get really interesting. I told you it was going to get nasty and ugly. What concerns me is if this works well, that it may be used in other circumstances as well around the world. Why send our boys? Why send our men in uniforms somewhere when we can send a private –
Starting point is 01:07:54 Hit team. Yeah. It's a hit team. Right. Okay. Now, look. Authorized by the U.S. The drug cartels need to be eradicated inside the U.S.
Starting point is 01:08:04 Oh, I agree. They need to be eradicated inside the U.S. Oh, I agree. They have to be eradicated. I've said it all along. Mr. Trump is going to be serious about going after the most hardened illegals here, and it's going to be ugly and nasty. And the American people are going to back him on it. There's no doubt in my mind, Doc. It's gone on for so many years that when you let a problem go on this many
Starting point is 01:08:28 years, the cleanup is ugly. There's no way to do it nice. And that's what's going to take place. So I would not be surprised that we're sending privatized hit teams across the border. We're just making it government endorsed now. Yes. We already do. Right. I mean, come on. But now it's constitutional.
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Starting point is 01:10:35 Visit our website and become prepared today. Good morning. Welcome to Morning Manor. And today is Tuesday and we are in the book of Romans and now working our way through the second chapter. We're glad to have you with us. And Romans is a tough book of the New Testament. It's like reading a um a law school uh treatise you know paul's paul was the lawyer and uh he he wrote romans like a lawyer and and so we're working our way we're in the second chapter and today we're we will be studying verses 17 through 22. Let's pray. And we need the Holy Spirit here to teach us. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:11:32 And to walk us through the word. So, Father, all of us come together, brothers and sisters from many nations, from many cities and towns. We come together in real time through virtual technology, Father. Your word says that where two or more are gathered, you are there with us, Father. So you are here.
Starting point is 01:12:00 Jesus Christ is with us right now. And we ask for the anointing of your spirit upon the teaching of your word and upon the hearing of your word. That all of us would be stronger disciples at the end of this class than now. We ask this in the name of Jesus. Amen. Amen. And we continue on in our journey through Romans chapter 2. We're going to pick back up on verse 17.
Starting point is 01:12:28 So if you've got your Bibles, read along with me here today. Today we're going to be focusing on the relationship between those who identify as Jews and their relationship to the law here in the gospel age. And Paul lays this out very, very clearly here in Romans chapter 2, starting at verse 17. It reads, Behold, thou art called a Jew, and restest in the law, and makest thy boast of God, and knowest his will, and approvest the things that are more excellent being instructed out of the law, and art confident that thou thyself art a guide of the blind, a light of them which are in darkness, an instructor of the foolish, a teacher of babes,
Starting point is 01:13:12 which has the form of knowledge and of the truth in the law. Thou therefore which teachest another, teachest thou not thyself? Thou that preachestest a man should not steal dost thou steal thou that sayest a man should not commit adultery dost thou commit adultery thou that abhors idols
Starting point is 01:13:36 dost thou commit sacrilege that's Romans chapter 2 verses 17 through 22 today okay so in verse 17, Apostle Paul begins a transition. So far in chapter 1 and the first 16 verses of chapter 2, Paul was addressing everybody, Jew and Gentile. He was saying, what I'm teaching is universal, applies to everybody. But now, in verse 17, he narrows the focus to Jews.
Starting point is 01:14:23 He zooms in on the jews who are reading his letter and what we're going to see here is he points out that there's a disparity between their self-professed identity and their secret behavior. He says, thou art called a Jew. Where in the Bible does the scripture first mention Jews? I used to know this first. Okay. I mean, I think a lot of people probably think,
Starting point is 01:15:12 oh, it's got to be in Genesis. It's got to be at the beginning of the Bible. No, it's not. It's not. Second Kings chapter 16, verse six. You don't see the word Jew mentioned until you get to 2 Kings chapter 16. And the verse says, at that time, Rezan king of Syria recovered Elath to Syria and drave drove the Jews from Elath and the Syrians came from Elath and dwelt there unto this day so this is the first time that the inhabitants of the kingdom of judah right remember judah is one tribe
Starting point is 01:16:09 one of the twelve tribes what what the zionists try to teach you today and then both the jewish zionists and the christians zionists and they're all just zionists what they what they try to get people to believe today is Jewishness and Israel the the people of Israel are one and the same. And that's not true because Israel was made up of 12 tribes and Judah was one. Yes. So all Jews are Israelites, but all Israelites are not Jews. I had this conversation, Doc, one day with a young man. We used to live here in this area and he was of Jewish descent. And I said, what tribe are you from? He said, tribe of Aaron.
Starting point is 01:17:16 I said, are you certain? He goes, oh, I know. You're from the tribe of Aaron. He goes, yes. I said, then you're not a Jew. He goes, yes, I'm a a Jew no this was a Christian okay I said no you can't be a Jew if you're from the tribe of Aaron which one are you he said I'm a Jew I said I kept trying to explain this to him and he could not grasp it. If you are from the tribe of Aaron, you cannot be from the tribe of Judah. And only the tribe of Judah are Jews.
Starting point is 01:17:54 Where do you think Jew comes from? Judah. But see, there's this concept that the the jews represent all of israel right if if the people living in palestine now truly are descendants of the people that lived there 3 000 years ago then the country that's there ought to be called the state of Judah, not the state of Israel. Correct. That's right. At one time, it was called Judah. Let's just be clear.
Starting point is 01:18:31 At one time, it was called Judah. That's right. So 2 Kings 16, verse 6 is the first time the Bible mentions that the inhabitants of the kingdom of Judah are called Jews. See what the kingdom of Judah, Israel split apart. You had the Northern tribes of Israel,
Starting point is 01:18:57 which were the Israelites minus one tribe. Well, minus Judah and Benjamin. Yes. They couldn minus Judah and Benjamin. Yes. They couldn't even get along with their other tribes. Do you ever think about that, Doc? Oh, and it's the same way to this day.
Starting point is 01:19:20 They couldn't get along with their own people. They separated. They said, we want to be by ourselves so um you know the name comes from the original patriarch judah and they had that name from the time that the tribe of Judah went up the fight against the Canaanites. But it was never found in the Bible that they were called Jews. Correct. They were called Israelites. But from the time the ten tribes were carried captive, and not before, they So anyhow, a little history on that name.
Starting point is 01:20:39 So there was, among the Jews, they considered the title Jew, a Jew, to be a title of honor. Rooted in their heritage, their religion, their covenant with God. They saw themselves as a people chosen by God, distinct from Gentiles, with a rich history of God's involvement in their lives. All of it was true. What about the name Judah? What does it mean? It means praise.
Starting point is 01:21:12 Yes. So, Grandpa Judah's name meant praise, praise of God. And it symbolized their role as God's covenant people who had a direct association with the promise of the Messiah so Paul is addressing those who call themselves Jews now obviously if they're reading his letter they are members of the church in Rome
Starting point is 01:21:50 these are Jews who have become believers in Jesus Christ another thing the Jews took pride in their possession and allegiance to the Mosaic Law. Yes. And they believed it gave them moral superiority and that it guaranteed salvation. They relied on the law,
Starting point is 01:22:23 not in a way that led to obedience and transformation, but as a marker of their identity and their privilege. Another thing, the Jews prided themselves on. They had an exclusive relationship with God. We're his chosen people. Yes. And if he chose them, that means he likes them more than everybody else.
Starting point is 01:22:56 They were special. And, you know, that turned into pride. And pride will turn into arrogance. And will lead to a sense of religious and racial superiority over others. And that is true today. Yes. and that is true today yes so paul begins chapter or verse 17 he's listing the privileges of being called a jew
Starting point is 01:23:37 possessing the law having a unique relationship with god. And Paul's acknowledging their status, but he's using it as a foundation to expose their hypocrisy. The very gentle introduction that he's setting up to critique their failure to live in accordance with the profession of their mouth. He said they rest.
Starting point is 01:24:12 King James says rest it. They rest it in the law. I think he's, I think Paul's talking about a false sense of security. Yes, I believe so too rick you're resting in the law but the law has given you all these privileges and so in their mind they thought by possessing and professing the law, that that was enough to be justified in the eyes of God.
Starting point is 01:24:56 Obedience was not that necessary. They possessed it. They professed it. Eh, not necessarily keep it. And so Paul's going after them on this. Again, I've got to reiterate, he's talking to Jews in the church of Rome. So obviously
Starting point is 01:25:15 there was a lot of of Judaizers in the Roman church. Or he would not have devoted so much time in this letter. So he's showing them that their boasting in God was undermined by their actions your
Starting point is 01:25:45 your behavior doesn't match your boasting and that's dishonoring God so Paul is challenging their superficial religiosity.
Starting point is 01:26:07 He said, you guys got to go deeper than this. God expects obedience and he expects faith. So the Jews misunderstood the purpose of the law. They used it as a badge of honor rather than a moral code for righteous living. They viewed the law as their ticket to salvation. The fact that they were given the law, that was enough right there. They possessed the
Starting point is 01:26:47 law. That was enough right there. They had a free ticket to salvation. That's right. They could rest in the law. In other words, just say, hey, don't you know who I am? It'd be like a city councilman getting pulled over by the police and the councilman said don't you know who i am i'm your boss i make the laws you can't stop me you can't arrest me uh that's right he he is resting in the law or the fact that he uh you know makes the law but if you make the law you're subject to the law too so so they they rested they put their confidence in a religious identity right and external rituals and you know religious holidays and so forth and they thought that's enough we. We have the law. We possess it.
Starting point is 01:27:45 We profess it with our mouth. We've got rituals and holidays. Therefore, we have salvation. Right. And we are righteous in God's eyes. So if you're going to boast, it needs to be boasting in God, boasting in his humble, boasting with humble gratitude,
Starting point is 01:28:13 acknowledging God's grace. If you're going to boast, boast about God being merciful. The Jews' bo was was misplaced instead of drawing others to God they caused his name to be blasphemed
Starting point is 01:28:33 because people were looking at him saying oh okay they claim to be God's chosen people but you don't want to do business with them. We go to verse 18. And knoweth his will, and approvest the things that are more excellent, being instructed out of the law. Romans, this is a tough book to read.
Starting point is 01:29:18 I mean, this first glance reading Romans is like, wow, this is, this is hard. It's hard, yes. Let's just say it's hard. Hard, not hard, hard. So Paul said, you know his will, and you approve the things that are more excellent being instructed out of the law so paul's now he's continuing to challenge the self-perception of the jews and he's focusing on their supposed knowledge of god's will so This is, verse 18 is part of Paul's critique of Jewish reliance on their privileged position. And their failure to live out the requirements of that position.
Starting point is 01:30:20 Knoweth and knoweth his will. So this refers to the Jews' privilege of knowing God's revealed will through the law of Moses. That's right. So this was the significant distinction between Jews and Gentiles. Gentiles are any humans outside of the covenant. But the
Starting point is 01:30:48 knowledge alone is not sufficient for righteousness. That's the mistake they're making. They're resting in the law. We know it. That's all we gotta do. We know it. And Paul's saying, no,
Starting point is 01:31:03 that's not enough. Knowing God's will without obeying it leads to greater accountability that's why teachers in the church are held to a higher standard right because the teacher knows more than the student so what's the teacher's excuse this is this is the principle that paul is teaching and approve the things that are more excellent. On this, the Jews are taking pride in their ability to approve what is morally at a high level,
Starting point is 01:31:55 what's excellent. That they could imply intellectual recognition or judgment of what aligns with God's will. In other words, Paul is saying, you're very proud of your ability, your privileged position, that you decide what is morally excellent. Yes. privileged position that you decide what is morally excellent yes um the phrase approve the things that are more excellent it could also be interpreted as testing a means of testing or discerning what differs, referring to the Jewish people's capacity to distinguish right and wrong through the law.
Starting point is 01:33:00 Right. Can I offer another thought on that? Please. It could also mean, too, that you decide what the law says. Okay? And I'll use as a reference Luke 12, verse 56. Jesus speaking to the Pharisees. He said, you hypocrites, you can discern the face of the sky and the earth, but how is it that you do not discern these days or this time? In other words, just because they had the law and they were instructed in the law and they studied the law,
Starting point is 01:33:34 they determined what the law was going to say, not what God said about the law. Yes. That's why they missed the Messiah when he was born that's why later on when they realized who Jesus was that Jesus was the Messiah they worked hard to cover it up and to kill the Messiah so
Starting point is 01:33:56 when Paul is saying you approve what the law says in other words you're the arbiters of deciding the interpretation of the law you. In other words, you're the arbiters of deciding the interpretation of the law. You put yourself in that seat. Yes. I like that, Doc. I believe that's accurate. Being instructed out of the law.
Starting point is 01:34:20 Yes. The Jews had received yes so the jews had received systematic instruction in god's will through the law through regular synagogue attendance the reading of the of the law they had their own catechism to teach the law. So they were instructed out of the law. And so they had a formal education that enabled them to make moral distinctions and claim
Starting point is 01:35:00 a deeper understanding of God's desires. I was pointing to their religious education in the synagogue. In other words, you know, Christians have Sunday school. He's saying, hey, you went to Sabbath school. You were educated. Every school you were educated every Sabbath you were educated
Starting point is 01:35:28 in the law so in verse 18 Paul is saying the Jews possess a superior knowledge of God's will but that does not justify them before God that's but does not justify them before God.
Starting point is 01:35:50 That's the wall he's trying to crack. He's not challenging their knowledge of the law. He's challenging their false belief that their knowledge of the law justifies them in the eyes of God. Right. It doesn't mean that the law justifies them in the eyes of God. Right. It doesn't mean that the law is of no effect, but rather you cannot rest in just your knowledge of it in order to claim, hey, I'm covered. That's it for me.
Starting point is 01:36:23 So, and that even extends to today. Isn't that really kind of the blanket uh you know covering yes we know the law but really you don't practice the law do you you really don't practice the law because if you practice the law you'd be doing sacrifices you'd be doing the whole law right so really you don't obey the law. But you claim to have it. You claim to be the arbiters of it. You claim to be the safekeepers of it. And yet you don't obey it. Yes.
Starting point is 01:36:53 So that's how it applies to Christians today. That knowing God's will in detail is not enough. True faith requires obedience and even obedience without faith is not enough yes that's right you have to obey in faith in faith if not it's just mechanical actions there has to be faith and that's the lesson for us today another lesson is that those who are blessed with access to God's Word and teaching should respond with humility and gratitude yes rather than boasting about how much they know i mean this class the people who gather five days a week
Starting point is 01:37:58 you know i've told you this before you're probably i I don't know what percentile, but I would, I think it would be reasonable to say that probably less than 1% of all the Christians in the world, outside of seminaries and Bible colleges are devoting one hour, five days a week to studying the word. Right.
Starting point is 01:38:32 So that makes you a special class, a special class of Christians. So the lesson in this is don't let that position lead you to spiritual pride. But instead, to be humble and have gratitude that God has allowed you to learn more about his word. Because you're held more accountable now because you know more of the Bible than 99% of the people. Verse 19, and are confident that thou thyself art a guide of the blind, a light of them which are in darkness. So Paul is now critiquing the Jewish tendency to feel confident in their role as spiritual leaders,
Starting point is 01:39:36 as guides for others. Because back to this perception of superiority based on their possession of the law. And in their belief, in their ability to instruct and enlighten the Gentiles, who they perceive to be ignorant and blind. That's right. I was just going to ask you, who do you think that the blind were? And I'm of the same opinion.
Starting point is 01:40:02 It's the Gentiles. Yes. But the Jews saw them as ignorant and blind. That's right. So the Jews believed that they were uniquely qualified to guide spiritually blind Gentiles because of the Jewish possession of the law and their standing with God through the covenant.
Starting point is 01:40:30 But this confidence turned into arrogance. And so they assumed a superiority over others without critiquing themselves, evaluating their own spiritual failings.
Starting point is 01:40:55 And this is what Paul is going after. Guide of the blind. Obviously, he's speaking about spiritual blindness. But Jesus often accused the Pharisees and Sadducees of being blind guides. Yes, the blind leading the blind. Yes. A light of them that are in darkness so the the jews view themselves as the bearer the bearers of divine truth
Starting point is 01:41:35 uh bringing illumination to the world world. And I, Doc, I have heard rabbis, you know, in recent years, I'm thinking right now of a video I watched, it was only a couple years ago, and that rabbi was talking about Judaism will will take the entire world because they are the bearers of divine light. And he was teaching that it was the responsibility of every Jew to convert Gentiles, to bring them in, at least bring them in under subjection to the Jews who had the light. So that concept has been there for thousands of years. Paul is driving home the point that the possession of the law and their role as spiritual guides actually implies
Starting point is 01:42:51 a higher responsibility to live out the truths that they were teaching. Absolutely, yes. So, knowledge without obedience is empty. It's hollow. It has no meaning. The Jewish confidence in their religious status and their possession of the law
Starting point is 01:43:26 has deceived them with this false sense of superiority and judgmentalism towards all other people. You don't believe it doesn't exist? Just take a trip over to the state of Israel right now. They'll put you in your place real fast. They'll tell you who they are and who you are. So they're not having any problems at all
Starting point is 01:43:59 killing thousands of Palestinians. They're superior. That's all it is to it they're superior to them right uh i want to get to verse 20 an instructor of the foolish a teacher of babes which have the form of knowledge and of the truth of law. So now Paul is talking about their pride as teachers. And again, he's critiquing their, he's poking their hypocrisy
Starting point is 01:44:45 saying your life's actions don't line up with what you tell the world you are yes folks this is what the world, the Gentiles this is what the Gentiles are saying
Starting point is 01:45:03 about the Christians today. Most Gentiles are saying, I don't have a problem with Jesus. I have a problem with Jesus' people. You know, that's what Mark Twain said. He said, I don't have a problem with Jesus. It's his followers that bother me. Another thing Mark Twain said about the Bible, he said, I'm not troubled by the Bible verses I don't understand.
Starting point is 01:45:48 What bothers me are the verses I do understand. See, his conscience was telling him that he was in violation of God's laws. Right. That was the natural, that natural knowledge of God in his conscience. So now Paul's talking about an instructor of the foolish. The foolish refers to people without understanding. So I think he's talking about the Gentiles. The Jews held the Gentiles with contempt. and I think this term is, you know,
Starting point is 01:46:49 he's referring to the Jews, the rabbis, the teachers of the law who took pride as their guides to those who were spiritually inferior to them. And then he said a teacher of babes. And again, I think he's talking about Gentiles as spiritually immature. Or at least from the perspective of the Jews. Yes, that's what I mean. From the perspective of the Jews, they're fools.
Starting point is 01:47:21 From the perspective of the Jews, they're babes. Yes, that's what I mean, Doc. Having the form of knowledge and of the truth and the law. So he's implying a representation,
Starting point is 01:47:38 an outline of knowledge and truth. Paul's saying that while you Jews possess the law, your understanding is superficial. You're focused on outward appearance rather than internal transformation. You have a form of knowledge.
Starting point is 01:48:08 You have a form of knowledge you have a form of truth a form is not the real thing you know you've got the shell you've got the outline in other words you've got a diagram it's like an architect you've got a diagram. It's like an architect, you know, with a blueprint of a house.
Starting point is 01:48:31 You got a blueprint of a house. Yes, it's a house, but you can't live in it. It's just a blueprint. Paul's saying to them, you've got a blueprint of the truth but it's it's just a form it's just an outline
Starting point is 01:48:50 yes there's no substance to it so Paul's telling them that their form of knowledge is not equal to the application of the truth in their lives.
Starting point is 01:49:12 In other words, it's mental, it's intellectual. It hasn't gone into their heart. So possessing the law and having the ability to teach others does not exempt the teachers from living according to the principles. But spiritual pride blinds people to their own shortcomings. doc have you ever in your life as a minister have you ever written a sermon for yourself yes most of the time no the yeah the preacher has to preach to himself first yes so yes um Yeah, the preacher has to preach to himself first. Yes. Yes. Yes. I remember one very clearly many, many years ago,
Starting point is 01:50:17 and I was wrestling with struggling with something to understand something that God was trying to show me. For me personally. And one week I felt really inspired to write a sermon on a particular topic. And when I was about 80% finished writing it, the light came on. This is me.
Starting point is 01:50:58 God, you just answered. You just answered my searching, my wrestling. You just answered. You just answered my searching, my wrestling. You just answered it. You had me write a sermon, and I delivered the sermon. I gave the sermon, but it was for me. Verse 21, thou therefore which teaches another teaches thou not thyself thou that preaches a man should not steal thus thou steal
Starting point is 01:51:33 so the question you who teaches others do you not teach yourself? The question exposes a self-contradiction in claiming to guide others while not allowing the word to guide yourself. In Matthew 23, Jesus criticized the Pharisees for saying and not doing. Jesus told the people, don't be like the Pharisees. So teachers are always held to a higher standard and their failure to practice what they preach damages their credibility
Starting point is 01:52:31 and it undermines their authority and every teacher's got to humbly live with that awareness all the time it's always there humbly live with that awareness all the time it's always there because at any moment you can just burst out and be yourself anyway there it is again that's me i thought i got rid of me i thought i thought locked the casket, put me in the casket and locked it and threw away the key. How did he get out?
Starting point is 01:53:09 Yeah. One of the most memorable sermons I ever heard in Bible College Chapel. One of our students, it was, you know, he was like president of the senior class and he gave a sermon. And he had this to say, you know, it talks about us being living sacrifices later on in Romans, right? You put yourself on the altar of living sacrifice, and I still remember the guy's name. His name is Gary Mormino. Gary Mormino said that the problem with a living sacrifice is that it has a tendency to crawl off the altar and isn't that the case here that you know you could be a living sacrifice but you got to stay on the altar but we do have a tendency to crawl off the altar every once in a
Starting point is 01:54:01 while yes so the next thing Paul says is now that preacheth a man should not still do you steal uh he's clearly you know he's going now for the throat uh he's getting serious now. You know, Paul's starting to lay it out. And I think, Doc, he was probably hinting at probably a well-known secret that many of the rabbis were stealing from the temple, from the offerings at the temple. Jesus called them a den of robbers. Yes, den of thieves, yes. What was he talking about?
Starting point is 01:55:05 Jesus called them your den of robbers. So I think Paul now, he's zeroing in on, hey, let's just get real specific here. We all know the rabbis and the Pharisees and the Sadducees, we all know that they pilfer. Do you do it also? That's what he's saying. Do you do it also? that's what he's saying do you do it too? because see the rabbis and the Pharisees they had a they had a legitimate excuse
Starting point is 01:55:35 for the pilfering they covered it they had some kind of man-made justification for it and I think it's bigger than just covered it they had some kind of of man-made justification for it but I and I think it's bigger than just uh theft I think Paul's talking about corruption exploitation dishonesty you're stealing when you're corrupt you're stealing when you exploit somebody
Starting point is 01:56:06 you're stealing yes when you don't pay your employees their legitimate wages you're stealing so you know don't don't cheat your employees I can't tell you how many times I've heard people tell me about employers who did not pay them what was owed to them and you know I hear cases of people well I'll be honest with you when you have when you have
Starting point is 01:56:52 so many immigrants in the country who are not here legally and and they're hard workers. I've heard cases from immigrants who were here illegally of being cheated. Right. Because the employer knew you're not going to do anything about it. Right. Who are you going to report me to? I've heard this. I've heard people say, I worked for a month for that man, and he kept promising me and promising me he's going to pay me,
Starting point is 01:57:29 and then when the work was done, he didn't pay at all. Right. So, Rick, what's the difference between that and a slave? There isn't any. That's slavery. Yeah. And the same argument that they use today, they use today they use
Starting point is 01:57:45 back in the 19th century said if we get rid of slavery who's going to pick our cotton nowadays they say if we get rid of the illegal immigrants who's going to pick our vegetables who's going to clean our house who's going to mow our lawn
Starting point is 01:58:00 yeah but it's theft. It's theft. This is theft. It's just theft. It's outright theft. So, Paul is, you know, he's talking about hypocrisy.
Starting point is 01:58:25 He's challenging their hypocrisy, saying, if you're going to be a teacher of the law, then you've got to live the law. You have to do what is right in God's eyes, because you're going to be held accountable for it, Almighty God. Verse 22. Now let's sayeth a man should not commit adultery,
Starting point is 01:58:49 dost thou commit adultery? Thou abhorrest idols, dost thou commit sacrilege? Paul's taking it to another level now. He's already he's already poked them asking them their fees um so there's two types of adultery there's literal physical adultery.
Starting point is 01:59:27 We have sexual relationship with a person outside of marriage. And then there's spiritual adultery. And spiritual adultery is an intimate relationship with a God outside of the true God. And so it's, what does that look like? Well, it's whatever is your idol. What do you put above God? What stands between you and God? What blocks you from obeying and following God?
Starting point is 02:00:03 It can be a who not a what a who is a person all right it can be a it can be an emotional relationship a bonding that you have you from obeying god that's an idol um how many people don't don't obey god don't follow god god gives them instruction i want you to do this i want you to go here i want you to move some place i want you to be a missionary i want you to be a missionary. I want you to be an evangelist. I want you to take the gospel to a certain place. And they don't go. They know that God has called them. They don't go because
Starting point is 02:00:52 it would mean separating from the children or the grandchildren or their mother and father. Okay, those are idols. Yes. You say, no, that can't be true. Yes, it's true. Jesus said anybody who loves their mother or father or son
Starting point is 02:01:10 more than me, he's very, very emphatic about that he has to be in first place. So he's going after their both physical literal adultery with another human or spiritual adultery
Starting point is 02:01:38 with idols and false gods Doc anything else you want to add to this? Well it's interesting that idols, and false gods. Doc, anything else you want to add to this? Well, it's interesting that Paul shifts from the word idolatry to sacrilege. Yes. And
Starting point is 02:01:57 Matthew Henry had a comment on it that that sacrilege could also mean profaning holy things. In other words, you may not be actually bowing down to a carved idol or an image of Molech or anything else, but do you profane holy things? Do you profane the holy things of God? Do you take the holy things of God and you're casual
Starting point is 02:02:30 about it and you're, you know, it's not a high priority to you or you not necessarily denigrate it or curse it, but you don't give it the priority that it should have. You're onto something, Og.
Starting point is 02:02:45 And so, they may not have been worshiping idols in Rome, but were they profaning holy things? By profaning holy things, by not, by failing
Starting point is 02:03:01 to give God the reverence and the worship and the obedience that is due him they're too casual about god there's no worship in their life there's no prayer in their life there's no giving in their life oh but they're saved you know think about it. How many people are like that? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:36 I can figure out somebody very quickly by bringing up the name of Jesus and watching the reaction. Yeah, pretty easy. Do you know how many church-going people, self-professing Christians, find Jesus to be very boring. Or even offensive. They don't want to talk about it. Have you ever tried to have a conversation with another Christian about Jesus, and they don't want to talk I don't know anybody
Starting point is 02:04:28 else to talk about I could talk about him all day long yeah you talk about football you know about the weather you can talk about trailer trains or you talk about Trump and politics yeah okay talk about Jesus there's dead. There's no hunger, no fascination with him, no love. There's no love. Yes. He's there for when I die, I'll go see him. Jesus, don't mess with my life right now. Right. Jesus don't mess with my life right now right that's where
Starting point is 02:05:07 most church members are at at least the people that I talk to there's no interest in Jesus there's no interest at all so for us 350 people right now at you know what is it almost 9 a.m eastern and you've been here with me for an hour you love jesus you would not have given an hour
Starting point is 02:05:37 and then come back again tomorrow and again the next day it's it's proof that you love Jesus. I, oh, I could tell you. Doc, when I, this morning in my prayer, you know, I was just talking to my Heavenly Father, you know, just saying, I want to know you. I want to know who you are. I want to know my Father. I want to know your private thoughts. What do you think about, Father? What kind of music you like?
Starting point is 02:06:33 Did you ever ask your father what kind of music he likes? What's your favorite? What's the most outstanding thing you ever made? What about you, Father? What color is your eyes? And I was telling him, it's hard for me, Father,
Starting point is 02:07:01 to visualize what you will look like when I finally see you. Jesus, I know, is a man. He's in a body. In heaven. I can touch him. He's got a body. He still is in his body. Okay?
Starting point is 02:07:25 But what about you, Father? I mean, you got hair. You got eyes. You got a mouth. You got hands. Because the Bible talks about it. It says he has feathers, too. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:07:38 What do you look like? What do you look like? But you know what? It's because I just love him. And I want to talk to people about him. And I, I can't find very many Christians who want to talk about him.
Starting point is 02:07:59 Yeah. They want to talk about Trump. Well, Trump's not my God he's a president pray for him but he's not my God I want to talk about my father and you know what he revealed to me
Starting point is 02:08:21 many years ago was Rick learn about my son. If you want to know me, learn about my son. I gave you my son for this lifetime. Learn about him and you will know me.
Starting point is 02:08:41 And that's why we gather here one hour, five days a week to learn about Jesus Christ because if we if we know him we'll know the Father have you ever wondered what color are Jesus's eyes have you ever thought about when you look in his eyes for the first time what are you gonna see I'll tell you what you're gonna see love on describable love yes that's what you're going to see. Okay. That's enough for today, Doc. A great lesson today.
Starting point is 02:09:34 We'll pick back up on verse 23 tomorrow, so if you want to study ahead, I encourage you to do so. We're going to continue our study in the book of Romans. We're still in Romans chapter 2 of course, and this is going to be quite the journey through Romans. You you're going to learn a lot a lot of things are going to get connected together that you hadn't thought had a relationship before and especially in this day and age where there's so much errant teaching on the
Starting point is 02:10:01 relationship between Jews and Christians and the law. This is really going to clear a lot of things up for you if you are persistent in your study of the book of Romans. It will be a great help to you spiritually. So if you know someone that could benefit from this Bible study, you're welcome to invite them and to be a part and to listen on a regular basis. I'm sure they'll be blessed, and I know you'll be blessed for sharing it. And so it's very exciting for me. And we want to encourage you to join us each and every weekday morning,
Starting point is 02:10:35 8 a.m. Eastern Time here on the U.S. East Coast for Morning Manna, and we'll pick back up again tomorrow. God bless you, we love you, and we'll see you on the next edition.

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