TRUNEWS with Rick Wiles - Rick Wiles & Jeremy Slayden: Zionism's Impact on Culture & Politics

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Starting point is 00:02:10 American Reserves is now also offering bundled packages of products depending on your need. That's AmericanReserves.com. Use the checkout promo code TRUENEWS for that special 15% discount. Well, hailing from Middle Tennessee, Jeremy Slayton is a former Georgia Tech and Philadelphia Phillies baseball player who is now a successful entrepreneur and podcast host. After experiencing life's peaks and some years of struggle, Jay Slay, as he likes to be called, has a passion for seeking truth in all areas and creates content to help people maximize their potential, overcome debilitating struggles, and rebuild the culture from the ground up. Jeremy's website, WarriorMBS.com, exists to explore how to maximize benefits to the mind, body, and soul.

Starting point is 00:02:51 Now, Jeremy recently interviewed our host, Rick Wiles, and together they discussed the history of Zionism, the influence of John Nelson Darby and Cyrus Schofield, and the impact that modern-day Zionism is having on politics and culture. Here is that conversation between Rick Wiles and Jeremy Slayton. Rick, I'm excited to have you on the show today. Thanks for coming on. Hey, Jeremy. I'm glad to be here.

Starting point is 00:03:21 I got the invitation from you, and I checked out your your background and I discovered you were a professional baseball player. There was a time. There was a time. Yeah. So I knew. See the old minor league jersey right there. I see it. A lot of tricks on the road.

Starting point is 00:03:34 Philadelphia Phillies, right? You were with the Phillies? Yeah. Seven years up to AAA. Touched the big leagues for like a day. But you did it. Yeah. Lived the dream.

Starting point is 00:03:44 Walked away with a lot of injuries and very little money but that might have been the best thing for me you know you probably know something about that that's right yes that's right yeah well listen hey thank you for inviting me i i don't do a lot of podcasts yeah i i really don't and this is one this is one that when my staff asked me if I wanted to accept the invitation, I prayed about it, and I felt the Holy Spirit say, yes, I want you to do this one. But typically, I just graciously say no, and it's just because I don't have the time. But I felt like the Holy Spirit wanted me to do this interview with you. So let's, let's, let's, let's pursue truth. Absolutely.

Starting point is 00:04:30 Let's get it on. Well, I'll open with this. When I read the true news mission statement, cause anybody I bring on, I don't have to align with them every time, but I want to know where they stand. And you can be, um, very passionate about some of these topics, especially as it relates to Zionism, the modern geopolitical nation state of Israel, those things. And, you know, that can be a little, when you read somebody's mission statement that comes from that place, you never know quite where

Starting point is 00:04:56 you're going to land. There's a lot of people out there that may have it figured out when it comes to Zionism and global control, but they're not Christians at all. And that kind of wipes out half my audience from trusting them. So when I read your mission statement, it read very much like mainline denominational statements of faith from the respected, you know, churches and Christian institutions that haven't gone woke. Right. So good one. But I hear a completely different message from you and true news regarding Israel Zionism than from those same trusted institutions within the mainstream church. So I'm going to open with that. Why is that? Where's the break in opinions on that whole thing? Very good question, Jeremy. So I've been I've been a Christian since 1978, so a number of years.

Starting point is 00:05:49 I can tell you that in the late 70s, the 80s, and into the early 90s, I never heard a word about Zionism, never heard anything about stand with Israel, never saw a Star of David flag in a Christian church, never saw it. That didn't, it did not exist in those days. You think anywhere in America or just in your state, your locality? Well, I mean, that's all I was aware of, but, you know, I worked for TBN. I worked for CBN. I worked for Pat Robertson in the 80s.

Starting point is 00:06:28 I worked for Paul Crouch in the 90s. I didn't see or hear any of this stuff. It all started to come, seep in really heavy post-2001. How wonderful. 9-11. 9-11. Yep. We went deep into it.

Starting point is 00:06:50 And now, the other topic is the pre-trib rapture. So I was saved in an old-time Pentecostal church, and so in my first several decades of my Christian walk, I attended either Pentecostal charismatic churches, later Southern Baptists, non-denominational churches. I got away from the charismatic movement and all that stuff. I saw it was getting weird. I thought, I just detected there's a weirdness there in it, and that they were getting away from the Holy Spirit and they were pursuing just non-biblical experiences. So anyhow, all of those churches taught the pre-tribulation doctrine. That I didn't understand it. I was just told there's going to be a rapture, you're going to go up in the air. And when I would see those complicated Bible prophecy charts

Starting point is 00:07:59 that would make your eyes spin, I mean, it's like, how can you understand this stuff? It was so complicated. Well, I realized that you had to go to a seminary or Bible school to be indoctrinated with the false doctrine to teach the Bible prophecy chart, that no sensible person could understand it. It was not meant to be understood. And the reason it couldn't be understood is because it wasn't from God. And, but I didn't know what,

Starting point is 00:08:37 Jeremy, in my spirit, I knew it was wrong, but I didn't know what was right. Right. Was there a spirit just my spirit told me that the rapture doctrine was wrong but if you asked me to explain what was right I didn't know because I never heard another interpretation of Bible prophecy right so after the Lord removed me from TBN, that's when I was called into this ministry. And He separated me. I went from working, I was in Dallas, Fort Worth at the Irving, Texas facility. It was a multi-gazillion dollar facility that looked like the White House.

Starting point is 00:09:26 And, you know, who's who of American evangelical Christianity came in and out the doors. I mean, it was high cotton, you know, I mean, there was influence and money and everything. The Lord took me out of that place and put me in a small ministry. And everybody that I knew forgot about me. All the important people, they all forgot about me. I'm way over here in this tiny little ministry. And I was podcasting in 1999. They didn't even have pods and I was podcasting. It was like a little radio show? I was doing MP3 audio files in 99. And, you know, the available audience for MP3 files was pretty small. And the other method I was using was international shortwave radio.

Starting point is 00:10:25 So I was doing shortwave radio and MP3 files and live streaming. We did live streaming and podcasts, but they hadn't invented the podcast yet. So I had to wait until Apple invented the iPhone. But anyhow, during that time, the Lord began to deprogram me from American evangelical churchianity, because it's not Christianity, it's churchianity. And the American evangelical church has been warped. It has created its own religion, and it's outside of the church of God worldwide. When you travel to other countries and talk to Bible-believing, Jesus-loving Christians, and you talk to them about the rapture and the state of Israel and the third temple, and they look at you

Starting point is 00:11:27 like what spaceship did you get off of? They've never heard it. It's an American thing. And not only is it an American thing, it is an American evangelical thing. It's in a very small slice of the church. You get it even in America. You get outside of the evangelical churches, Lutherans don't know it, Methodists don't know it, Anglicans don't know it, Presbyterians don't know it. Oh yeah. Can I provide a quick example of that? Sure. So I went to

Starting point is 00:12:03 the National Rel religious broadcasters conference last uh last summer i believe it was the dinosaur park uh no this was in orlando i don't think no i know the dino is i called the dinosaur park yes i missed that i was there okay and it was my first time to ever go to it but you know i was more there to kind of meet and greet and you know i got invited but i did have a podcast and all that as I'm walking through the huge, you know, what do they call those big rooms, the ballroom with all of the different companies and podcasters and all that. Right. Honestly, this is no exaggeration. I would say 15 to 20% of those of a thousand booths. So take a thousand booths in there, 200 of them were something to do with Israel or Zionism or Messianic Judaism, which the Messianic Judaism I'm cool with.

Starting point is 00:12:50 But what was very interesting to me was I would walk up to those booths because it's supposed to be a, even though they're called religious broadcasters, it's a Christian group, right? You go up to them and I would be almost immediately asked by the jewish people there are you a christian zionist and often i wouldn't want to answer i would say uh i'd say i don't know can you tell me what that is just to hear their explanation and they're just like well it just means that you're a christian but you really support israel and that you support us defending our borders you know etc and i just found it odd there's this many jewish booths or zionist booths here no problem with the word Zionism either. And they were hosting the prayer breakfasts in the morning. They were not believers in Jesus. They were hosting. Yeah. So, so praying the prayers, they introduced the sound of freedom

Starting point is 00:13:34 movie. Uh, the first time it was ever shown, um, at a, at a special event that night that I was invited to. And it kind of struck me as there's something really weird here. And the more I dug into what's going on, I see very much what you're saying, is that it's a very— How about Dennis Prager? How about Dennis Prager as a main speaker at the National Religious Broadcasters? He's not a Christian, and he believes that because he's a Jew, because he reads the Talmud, he is permitted to watch pornography. In fact, he says that watching animated children's pornography is acceptable in Judaism. Did he say those words, Rick, acceptable in Judaism? Yes. Oh, yes. I can show you the video. I've seen where he says he would prefer somebody do that than act out in real life,

Starting point is 00:14:25 and he was kind of justifying, but maybe I didn't see the same thing you saw. What he's saying is that there's nothing wrong with watching animated children's pornography, child pornography, that watching any pornography is okay in Judaism, because he says we're based on the law, where you Christians don't accept the law. So the NRB puts him up on a pedestal and lets him speak as a main speaker. He should never have been allowed in the building. And on top of that, Jeremy, he works for Salem Media, the biggest Christian radio broadcaster in the nation. They employ him.

Starting point is 00:15:07 Yeah, it doesn't surprise me one bit. There's something wrong. There's something wrong. They need to be saying to the man, Dennis, you're lost and you're on your way to hell and you need Jesus Christ. As an American who keeps up with the real news, you know by now the severity of the economic issues that are plaguing our great nation. My name is Jonathan Rose and I'm the CEO of Genesis Gold Group, the only major faith-driven company in the industry.

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Starting point is 00:16:29 and the Epsteins and all that, ethnically, are they the same as the Israelites of the Old Testament leading up to Jesus' time? I personally, I don all the tribes just, I mean, where are the other ten tribes of Israel? Judah came from two tribes. Right. Where are the other ten? Jews are Israelites, but all Israelites are not Jews. If you were of the tribe of Aaron, you were not a Jew.

Starting point is 00:17:08 You were an Israelite. If you were of the tribe of Benjamin, you were not a Jew. You were an Israelite. You had to be from the tribe of Judah to be a Jew. Where are the other tribes? I don't think it could be clearer the fact that i mean as a young boy the things that i was taught in church like the the moment jesus died on the cross the veil within the temple was torn into so that we all could have access to the father yes and but people on the opposing side of the issue say well god didn't just do away with israel it's like nobody claimed that he did. But what I what I was always taught before it got into the Zionism thing was now we're all one body with access to the father through the person of Jesus Christ.

Starting point is 00:17:54 But that's it. It's it's not like there's a separate plan for Israel. The Christian Zionists want to stitch the veil. They want to stitch it, put it back together. Okay. They want to build a third temple. A third temple is blasphemous. God's not building a third temple.

Starting point is 00:18:13 If you know anybody who says that there's going to be a third temple, it's not of God. It's of Satan. There might be a temple, but it's not of God. It's of Satan. Why would God rebuild a temple when Jesus Christ is the temple? John Nelson Darby did not invent everything in his theology. What Darby was good at was he was a collector of heresies. I picture him in my mind. He's got like a basket and he's going around and he's collecting little heresies and putting them in his basket.

Starting point is 00:18:51 And what he was good at was he took all these various heresies that other people came up with and he stitched them together and made a systematic theology, which is now taught in every major evangelical seminary in the United States. Our app offers a space where Christian faith and family values are celebrated. Connect, share, and grow in faith with us at Faith and Values.

TRUNEWS with Rick Wiles - Rick Wiles & Jeremy Slayden: Zionism's Impact on Culture & Politics

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