TRUNEWS with Rick Wiles - Seymour Hersh: Biden Ordered CIA to Blow Up Nord Stream Pipelines

Episode Date: February 8, 2023

Investigative journalist Seymour Hersh dropped a bombshell news article today on his Substack blog. Mr. Hersh claims that sources in the US government told him that President Joe Biden ordered the CIA to blow up Russia’s Nord Stream pipelines to Europe last year. If true, Moscow will call it an act of war. Meanwhile, in the UK, Ukraine President Zelensky is asking for fighter jets. Rick Wiles, Doc Burkhart. Airdate 2/8/23 You can partner with us by visiting TruNews.com/donate, calling 1-800-576-2116, or by mail at PO Box 690069 Vero Beach, FL 32969. The Fauci Elf is a hilarious gift guaranteed to make your friends laugh! Order yours today! https://tru.news/faucielf It’s the Final Day! The day Jesus Christ bursts into our dimension of time, space, and matter. You can order the second edition of Rick’s book, Final Day. https://www.rickwiles.com/final-day

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that President Joe Biden ordered the CIA to blow up Russia's Nord Stream pipelines to Europe last year. If true, Moscow will call it an act of war. Now, before Doc Burkhardt and I share with you the details in Seymour Hersh's report, we have some important information to tell you about Russia's warning to Great Britain today. We will start with a Wall Street Journal report about more military aid to Ukraine. UK considers sending British jet fighters to Ukraine. Doc, looks like the prime minister of Great Britain is ready to make a decision. And the reports that I saw said it's really a question of which jet fighters are they going to send? That's the question right now.

President Zelensky of Ukraine showed up in his tracksuit at Westminster Abbey to speak to British Parliament and other high officials within the British government. And, of course, that's the discussion. That's the request. He made out the case that we need fighter jets, and there was hints that the UK is already training Ukrainian pilots now. So what have we seen so far?

As we've pointed out before, Zelensky makes a demand, send me such and such. Then there will be politicians and bureaucrats who will say that's not feasible, that's not possible. And then the next step is well, nothing's off the table.

And then the final step is they've been shipped, you should have them next week. Yes, and the fact is that Rishi Shunek today already said that they're training Ukrainian pilots. So they've been planning this the whole time. It's not like, well, surprise, we're going to send jets.

They've been preparing for quite a while. Zelensky met with King Charles today also. That's right. He was in the palace today. Now, how are the Russians responding to this news out of London? This story is from Navasti News Service. Russian embassy warns about the consequences of the supply of fighter jets to Ukraine.

That's right. It says that the deliveries of British fighter jets to the Kiev regime will lead to military political consequences for the whole world. And it follows from the commentary of the Russian embassy in London and received by Ria Navasti. Not the whole world. That's right. Not just Great Britain. The whole world. And it follows from the commentary of the Russian embassy in London and received by Ria Novosti.

Not the whole world. That's right. Not just Great Britain, the whole world. So basically, Russia's saying this is going to lead to full world war. I'd like to remind official London it is on its conscience that in such a scenario there will be a bloody harvest

of the next round of escalation as well as the resulting military political consequences for the European continent and the whole world, the statement says. The Russian government said today there's going to be a bloody harvest over this next escalation of military aid to Ukraine. It's not a statement, Doc, that saying we're going to protest. Or we're upset about it. We're upset about it. It said there's going to be a bloody harvest and it's going to affect the whole world. There's not much that can be left to your

imagination. Now, there would be those who would say, well, Russia's just bluffing. Russia's just, you know, they're all talk. They're all bluster and everything. But when they're starting to use phraseology like bloody harvest, I think that's time for someone to wake up. You know, just to make it down to earth, to understand if you had somebody,

a neighbor who had a double barreled shotgun. And he's he keeps telling you, you keep messing with my property. I'm going to unload this thing on you. And would you be a fool to tell your other friends? I think he's bluffing. Yeah, he's got double double-barrel shotgun. He's waving it around. He's making big threats. I think I'm just going to keep irritating him.

Wouldn't that make you a fool? A stupid fool, yes. Guy's got a double-barrel shotgun. And you're going to take the chance that he's bluffing? No, in the heat of the moment, he could pull the trigger. And this is where the Russians are at. They're telling you there's going to be a bloody harvest if you send these jets. But it didn't say just the jets.

It just said the next round of military aid because they're sending tanks, tanks, long-range missiles, now jets. So there's going to be a bloody harvest, and it's going to affect the entire world. And it says, I'd like to remind official London, all right, that London is a decision-making center of the world. As we've reported in the past, both from Dmitry Medvedev and from Mr. Peskov from Putin's office saying, you know, we are looking at the decision-making centers. And they weren't talking specifically about Kiev or cities within Ukraine. The decisions aren't being made in Ukraine anyway. They're being made in Brussels. They're being made in Paris. They're being made in London. And they're putting themselves in a target. The king himself, King Charles, invited Zelensky into the palace. So the king is all in on this war, which I have suspected

for the past year that King Charles was actually the driving force of this war. Izvestia News Service quotes a Russian senator who reminded Great Britain of bad outcomes of political games against Russia. That's right. Senator Covettiti says that the organizers of anti-Russian sanctions have always faced bad consequences for themselves. On February 8th, Olga Covettiti, a member of the Federation Council from the Republic of Crimea, told Izvestia this. She quotes, Political intrigues against Russia have always ended badly, especially for those who organized them. In London, this is well remembered, but unfortunately they do not take into account the existing historical experience,

Covattutti said, commenting on the latest British sanctions. She also noted that Prime Minister Rishi Sunak's statements about London's readiness to expand the training of the Ukrainian armed forces at sea and in the air anticipate an escalation of the conflict. She's quoted, Great Britain has decided to enter into an open military confrontation with Russia. All this indicates that the UK acts as an active accomplice in the war with Russia. And London, here it is, is one of the decision-making centers against Russia, the senator said. And they have said in the past, throughout 2022, that they will strike decision-making centers.

And we have pointed out that those cities are London, Paris, Brussels. Berlin. Berlin and Washington. berlin berlin and washington and they just said london is one of the decision-making centers and and the other statement was there's good they're going to reap a bloody harvest i mean this is getting really serious at this point now last night president joe Joe Biden gave his State of the Union address. And, of course, differences between the Democrats and the Republicans. But one thing that will unite Washington is war. That's because we don't have two political parties.

We have one political party. It's the perpetual corruption, sleaze, war, and pedophilia party. That's who's in control of this country. And so whenever you promote war, you can get a bipartisan support immediately because the war lobby is powerful in Washington. And so when Joe Biden mentioned America's support for Ukraine, he got thunderous applause from all members of Congress. Let's watch. I spoke in this chamber one year ago, just days after Vladimir Putin unleashed his brutal attack against Ukraine. A murderous assault, evoking images of death and destruction. Europe suffered in World War II. Putin's invasion has been a test for the ages,

a test for America, a test for the world. Would we stand for the most basic of principles? Would we stand for sovereignty? Would we stand for the right of people to live free of tyranny, where we stand for the defense of democracy. For such defense matters to us because it keeps peace and prevents open season and would be aggressive and threatens our prosperity. One year later, we know the answer. Yes, we would, and we did. We did.

And together, we did what America always does at our best. We led. We united NATO. We built a global coalition. We stood against Putin's aggression. We stood with the Ukrainian people tonight. We're once again joined by Ukraine's ambassador to the United States. She represents not just her nation, but the courage of her people. Ambassador is our ambassador is here. United. We're in united our support of your country. Will you stand so we can all take a look at you? Thank you. Because we're gonna stand with you as long as it takes.

And we're all gonna get blown, as long as it takes. We're all going to be vaporized in a nuclear war for the defense of Zelensky and corrupt Ukraine. Are you willing to die for Ukraine? Are you willing to sacrifice your children and your grandchildren and your great-grandchildren for Zelensky because that's what Joe Biden and the Democrats and the Republicans in America are giving you, the destruction of our country. Russia is not bluffing. They have a different point of view about this war than what Mr. Biden presented to the Congress and the American people on Tuesday night. Now, let's talk about Seymour Hersh's report today that he published in Substack. We'll show you the front page. This is Substack.

If you've never used Substack, I'd recommend it. It's a platform it's a, it's a platform of independent blogs. And this was his first edition today. He came out of the starting gate with a blockbuster, how America took out the Nord Stream pipeline. Now, for those of you who are too young to know who Seymour Hersh is, I'd recommend that you research him. Mr. Hersh is now, I guess, 85 years old. Yes. He has broken some of the biggest news stories in the last 50, 60 years.

That's right. So whenever Seymour Hersh publishes an article, that article is going to go into the history books. He's a powerful investigative reporter, and I have a lot of respect for him. So we're not going to be able to go through the entire article, and I recommend that you go to Substack and read it. And I think it's free, this one. I think they've made it free to the general public. So we're going to go into the most important things. Now, he said that the training of the divers, the American divers who planted the bombs, took place in Florida, Pensacola.

And it was at the Naval Diving and Salvage Training Center. And he said, this is where the best of the best were recruited and taken there and trained for this mission. Reuters, one of the few news services that even acknowledged this story today, because there's almost a 100% news blackout, White House says blog post on Nord Stream explosion is utterly false. Which, Rick, nothing is true

until it's officially denied. Yeah. Of course they're going to deny it. I mean, people that lie and carry out acts of deception will deny the acts that they committed. So what do you expect them? But anyhow, the White House said,

we didn't do it. The CIA said the same thing. What do you mean the CIA is going to tell you the truth? We'll give you a quote from Reuters. Well, the White House on Wednesday dismissed a blog post by a U.S. investigative journalist alleging the U.S. was behind the explosions of the Nord Stream gas pipelines

as utterly false and complete fiction. This is utterly false and complete fiction, said Adrienne Watson, a spokesman for the White House National Security Council, spokespeople for the CIA and State Department, said the same. Last June, and this is coming from Seymour Hersh's article, says that the Navy divers that we were mentioning

that are operating under the cover of a widely publicized midsummer NATO exercise known as Ball Tops 22, which we reported on, planted the remotely triggered explosives that three months later destroyed three of the four Nord Stream pipelines. And that's according to Mr. Hirsch, his source with a direct knowledge of the operational planning involved.

It goes into deep detail on how this operation was carried out, and we will not be able to get to all of it. Again, you can read it on Substack and just find Seymour Hirsch's article. Let's go on, Doc. Yeah, let's skip down to 17 here. Biden's decision to sabotage the pipelines came after more than nine months of highly secret back and forth debate inside Washington's national security community about how to best achieve that goal. For much of that time, the issue is not whether to do the mission, but how to get it done

and with no overt clue as to who was responsible. There was a vital bureaucratic reason for relying on the graduates of the center's hardcore diving school in Panama City, Florida. The divers were Navy only and not members of America's Special Ops Command, whose covert operations must be reported to Congress and briefed in advance to the Senate and House leadership, the so-called Gang of Eight. So let's pause there for a second. They deliberately bypassed telling Congress about the mission. Right. So now the Biden administration was doing everything possible to avoid leaks as the planning took place late in 2021 and into the first months of 2022.

So in December of 2021, two months before the first Russian tanks rolled into Ukraine, Jake Sullivan convened a meeting of a newly formed task force, men and women from the Joint Chiefs, the CIA, and the State and Treasury Departments, and asked recommendations of how to respond

to Putin's impending invasions. Jake Sullivan is Joe Biden's national security advisor. And notice they've gone across the whole platform here from the military to the money side, okay? So it would be the first of a series of top-secret meetings in a secure room on the top floor of the old executive office building adjacent to the White House that was also the home of the president's

Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board. Now, what became clear to participants, according to the source with direct knowledge of the process, is that Sullivan intended for the group to come up with a plan for the destruction of the two Nord Stream pipelines and that he was delivering on the desires of the president. Now, remember, we're talking about December of 2021, two months before the Russian invasion. Actually, three months before the Russian invasion. Before the Russian invasion. So they'd already planned to blow it up.

That's right. Before the Ukraine war started. That's what's important to understand. Over the next several meetings, participants debated options for an attack. The Navy proposed using a newly commissioned submarine to assault the pipeline directly. The Air Force discussed dropping bombs with delayed fuses that could be set off remotely. The CIA argued that whatever was done, and this is an important quote that Mr. Hirsch brings out, it would have to be covert.

Everyone involved understood the stakes. This is not kiddy stuff, the source said. If the attack were traceable to the United States, it's an act of war. And it is an act of war. And remember the ridiculous propaganda that America

and Europe put out? But the Russians blew it up themselves. Blew up their own pipeline. And you had newspapers and television networks publish that propaganda. Well, that's because they're part of the propaganda machine. But it was so ridiculous.

The concept that Putin would be such a crazy guy that he would blow up his, you know, the pipeline that they spent years and billions of dollars building just to act crazy. But anyhow, it was part of the cover story and they had to divert attention away from what they did.

Right. Now, throughout all this scheming, the source said some guys working in the CIA and the State Department were saying, don't do this. It's stupid and will be a political nightmare if it comes out. Nevertheless, in early 2022, the CIA working group reported back to Sullivan's interagency group, we've got a way, we have a way to blow up the pipelines. Now, what came next was stunning. On February 7th, less than three weeks before the seemingly inevitable Russian invasion of Ukraine, President Biden met in his White House office with German Chancellor Olaf Scholz, who, after some wobbling, was now firmly on the American team.

Now, at that press briefing that followed, President Biden defiantly said, if Russia invades, there will no longer be a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it. Why was the German leader wobbling? Because Germany helped Russia build the pipeline. They wanted the gas. Yes. And the Trump administration and the Biden administration both tried to stop Russia and Germany from building it. Why? Because they wanted to sell American gas. They wanted American gas suppliers to ship gas on cargo ships across the Atlantic. And they knew that if Russia had a pipeline going directly from Russia to Europe, it would be much cheaper. And that was the real

reason to blow that thing up, to destroy the Russian market for gas. So one year ago yesterday, one year ago yesterday, President Biden made this announcement with the German chancellor standing right next to him. And the German chancellor is probably going, what? Here's President Biden one year ago yesterday saying, we're going to take the Nord Stream pipeline out, basically. If Germany, if Russia invades, that means tanks or troops crossing the border of Ukraine again, then there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it. We will bring an end to it. We will bring an end to it.

It was one year ago. That's right. There will be no Nord Stream. We will bring an end to it. Is that not a threat? Well, I mean, basically we confessed to the crime before we committed it. Yes, and according to Mr. Hirsch, there were people in the CIA

who were stunned that Joe Biden flapped his lips and confessed to crime. But Rick, he's not the only one that gave a clue as to what our plans were leading up to that. Two months prior, back in December, they're still planning this operation at the time in secret, supposedly. Victoria Nuland, Undersecretary of Victoria Nuland, delivered essentially the same message at a State Department briefing that got very little press coverage. We covered it here. I want to be very clear to you today, she said in response to a question, if Russia invades Ukraine one way or another, Nord Stream 2 will not move forward. Now, she was appearing before a Senate briefing with Senator Ron Johnson, and you've got to watch this exchange. It will flat out shock you. One thing that I believe certainly the Senate Foreign Relations Committee is pretty

unified on, it may not be unanimous, was our support for sanctions against Nord Stream 2 pipeline. I think we were all, many of us were very disappointed that those sanctions were not fully implemented and the construction continued. I can't think of a more powerful way to punish Russian aggression than by rolling back what progress has been made and, if at all possible, prevent the North Stream 2 from ever being completed. Is that something that is being discussed with allies? Is that something that's being contemplated? Absolutely. And as you recall from the July U.S.-German statement, that was very much

in that statement that if any moves, Russian aggression against Ukraine would have a direct impact on the pipeline. And that is our expectation and the conversation that we're having. So again, direct impact is one thing,

but I'm literally talking about rolling back the pipeline. Loosely define that, but I mean taking action that will prevent it from ever becoming operational. I think if President Putin moves on Ukraine, our expectation is that the pipeline will be suspended. Well, I certainly hope that the Senate Foreign Relations Committee would take up legislation to go beyond just suspending it, but from ending it permanently. But anyway, thank you, Undersecretary Newland. You heard the direct threat from Senator Johnson there. He said he wanted it blown up. And Victoria Newland saying we're on board with that without saying it. Yes, because she knew the plan. Yes. Now, Victoria Newland, if you've forgotten who she is. She's an Obama retread. So during the Obama years,

Victoria Nuland was one of the... Architects. Architects of the revolution in Ukraine in 2014, 13, 14. And Nuland and John McCain went to Kiev and told the Nazis, and I'm talking about real Nazis, told the Nazis, if you overthrow the democratically elected government of Ukraine,

the United States of America will recognize your revolution and support you. You know, they forget that part. They forget to talk, you know, Mr. Biden talks about we're fighting for democracy. Well, you overthrew democracy in 2014. That's right. The people had a democratically elected president and government and you overthrew it with a coup and you installed Nazis in power. And Victoria Nuland was one of the ringleaders of that revolution,

along with John McCain and Barack Obama and the rest of that gang. So her hands are dirty. She is a slimy little thing. We have another video of her. And this is this year. Yes, where she's once again appearing before the Senate. And she's crowing about the destruction of the pipeline. Right. This is in a conversation with Senator Ted Cruz, and both of them are sharing the joy of this overthrow of the pipeline. Watch this.

Senator Cruz, like you, I am, and I think the administration is very gratified to know that Nord Stream 2 is now, as you like to say, a hunk of metal at the bottom of the sea. So basically they self-confessed beforehand, both President Biden and Undersecretary Newland before the event occurred. They are basically saying, we did it now. Biden's and Newland's indiscretion, if that's what it was, might have frustrated some of the planners, but it also created an opportunity. According to the source, some of the senior officials of the CIA determined that blowing up the pipeline no longer could be considered a covert option because the president just announced that they knew how to do it.

Back in Washington, planners knew they had to go to Norway. They hated the Russians, and the Norwegian Navy was full of superb sailors and divers who had generations of experience in highly profitable deep-sea oil and gas exploration. They also could be trusted to keep the mission secret. And the Norwegians may have had their own interests as well. The destruction of Nord Stream, if the Americans could pull it off, would allow Norway to sell vastly more of its own natural gas to Europe. So they had, you know, skin in the game on this too.

I found it interesting that the article said the Norwegian Navy, full of superb sailors and divers who had generations of experience in highly profitable deep sea oil and gas exploration. The military was involved. Norway's military was actively involved in oil and gas exploration. That's because it's owned by the state in Norway.

Don't think that militaries are not involved in business operations. That's right. Well, sometime in March, a few members of the team flew to Norway to meet with the Norwegian Secret Service and Navy. One of the key questions was where exactly in the Baltic Sea was the best place to plant the explosives. Nord Stream 1 and 2, each with two sets of pipelines, are separated much of the way by a little more than a mile as they made their run to the port of Griswold in the far northeast of Germany. I know we don't have much time left, Rick, but basically the story is

that we set up remote explosives under the cover of a basically a drill a military exercise among nato during that time we planted explosives uh planning to blow it up but the biden administration came along and said is there a way we could set this where it would go off a much later date they want to timers on it. Because they were afraid they were going to get caught. Right. That if the explosions happened at the time of the war exercise, it would be too obvious. Right. So Biden threw a monkey wrench into the plan, said, hey, I want timers put on this thing, and I want to be able to decide when they get blown up. So they planted the explosives, and then later on, they were able to drop an Air Force buoy that flew over later, dropped in the water, and that sent a signal to set off the explosives.

So there was a transmitter in the buoy. Right. That then detonated the explosives that they had placed on the pipeline. We're not the good guys. No, no. It was evil. What the United States government did was evil and wicked and is pushing us into a nuclear war with Russia. Only madmen would do something like this. Dear God, please, please stop these people from pushing the world into nuclear war. Have mercy on us and stop this war. That's my prayer, and I hope you pray with me.

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We will rejoice and be glad in it. Hello, everybody. I'm Rick Wiles. This weekday television program is devoted to making ready a people prepared for the Lord. King Jesus will return to earth to gather his elect, and you and I must be remnant ready. Jesus Christ has a remnant church that will triumphantly endure to the end, and we must have Abraham's faith.

He was not weak in faith. Unbelief did not make him stagger at the father of the remnant ready church. And if he were here today, Abraham would tell us to shine brightly, taste salty, and love everybody. Well, I'm excited to tell you that we are building, God willing, an international network of Daniel 11 microchurches. What is a microchurch? Well, it's five to 10 families or individuals

who meet in their homes to worship God, study the Holy Bible, and to prepare to survive in the time of tribulation. And I will have more information in the coming weeks for those of you who are interested in becoming a member or a leader in a Daniel 11 micro church in your community. Dr. Raymond Burkhardt and I have been talking on this program for several weeks about the last day's remnant church as prophesied by the Old Testament prophet Daniel. Today, we will focus on Daniel chapter 12. Dr. Burkhardt is here and I want him to read Daniel chapter 12, verses 1 through 4.

And it says, At that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people. And there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation, even to that same time. And at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament. And they that turn many to righteousness as the stars forever and ever. But thou, O Daniel, shell up the words, seal the book, even to the time of the end. Many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased. Well, Doc, any question in your mind about who is the identity of Michael? Not in my mind. There have been some people in the past that have questioned who Michael is. Some have even said it was Jesus.

There's even some very famous commentators in the past. But obviously it's not Jesus because Michael is identified in other places in Daniel defending the people of God. If it was Jesus, he wouldn't be in a fight. Jesus would just win the fight. And so- Michael is the warrior angel. He's the great defender of God's people. And in this age, God's people means the church, the body of Christ, the Christians, the true church.

The true church is true Israel, the people of God. Who is Israel? Israel is a holy nation of people who obey God. And to obey God means you worship Jesus Christ. So to be Israel, you must be a disciple of Jesus Christ. So Michael is the great warrior who defends the church, the people of Israel, God's people. And it's not limited to just Israel, the nation of Israel, the physical nation. When I say Israel, I'm talking about the holy people of God, Jews and Gentiles who believe that Jesus Christ is the Messiah. That's Israel. That's right. And who is Israel? Well, it's

identified there right in that very first verse. Those whose names are written in the book of life. That's who true Israel is. Israel's not a boundary. It's not a heritage. It's not DNA. It's, is your name written in the book of life? And your name can only be in the book of life if you have repented of your sins,

believed on the name of Jesus, and been baptized into his church. So Michael is defending those whose names are written in the book. Amen. It makes it very, very clear in this very first verse. Doc, what Daniel saw in that vision, he said, Michael, the great warrior angel stood up. Verse one, and at that time shall Michael stand up. Well, we might want to tell, when is that time? What is that time? Well, I think it's the time of tribulation.

I do too. I think the clue is in verse 4, because in verse 4, the Lord tells Daniel, shut these things up until that time. And so I think there's a connection here between verse 1 and verse 4. There is, this is it. At that time, this is I think there's a connection here between verse one and verse four. There is, this is it. At that time, this is what's going to happen. Shut these things up until that end time.

Well, he goes on to say that there shall be a time of trouble. Right. A time of trouble that has never happened before. Let's look at Jeremiah 30 verses 7 to 10, because it talks about that time of trouble. Right. Alas, for the day is great so that none is like it. It is even the time of Jacob's trouble, but he shall be saved out of it. And it shall come to pass in that day, saith Jehovah of host, that I will break his yoke from off thy neck and will burst thy bonds and strangers shall no more make him their bondman, but they shall serve Jehovah their God and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them. And therefore fear thou not, O Jacob, my servant, saith Jehovah, neither be dismayed, O Israel, for lo, I will save thee from afar

and thy seed from the land of their captivity. And Jacob shall return and shall be quiet and at ease and none shall make him afraid. Doc, Michael's presence does not prevent the time of trouble. Right, but it's to ease the, or to accompany and prevent the time of trouble. Right. But it's to ease the, or to accompany and help the people of God. Yes. It's to help the church, the elect, to help the people of God get through the time of trouble, through the tribulation.

Look, what you have to decide is, are you going to be raptured and taken away before there's a time of trouble? Or are you going to be here at a time of trouble? If we live through the very end of the age, it sure looks like we're at that point, but it could go on for quite some time. A lot of people believe that they're going to be raptured and taken away, that they will not experience the time of tribulation. But Jesus never said that. And he never said the tribulation would last seven years. Please find a scripture in the New Testament where Jesus said, now there's going to be a time of great tribulation. It's going to last seven years. Don't worry. I'm going to come and get you secretly. I'm going to sneak you out of here. Nobody's going to see me and nobody's going to see you leaving. I'm going to get you out of here. And as soon as you leave, I'm going to take you to heaven. But as soon as you leave,

then the big bad Adam and Christ is going to show up and the monsters and the mayhem and all that stuff is going to start happening. And that will go on for seven years. And then I'm going to go back seven years later and smash them. Show me that scripture. What verse is it? You won't find it in 31,101 verses. Jesus said that he who endures to the end shall be saved. And I don't see any promise of a secret rapture to take the church out of the world. You know, if the rapture doctrine was correct, we should have left a long time ago because it's getting weird in the world right now, Doc. Yes. It's getting really weird. And things have already happened that the rapture people

told us years ago, we wouldn't be here to see, but it's happening happening and now we're on the edge of world war with that will that will involve nuclear weapons chemical biological weapons space-based weapons scalar directed energy weapons who knows what kind of weapons will be used in world war iii we're on the edge of it it could happen this year it happened this month we that close. So if the rapture people were correct, we ought to be leaving right now. Yes. And we shouldn't even be talking about this stuff. What's the point in talking about it? Let's just go. That's right. If we're that close and we're going to be raptured and taken away, then let's just close up the churches and get ready to leave because we're that far. I mean, we're that

close right now to that type of tribulation happening in the world. But I don't believe that doctrine is correct. What Daniel saw, he saw Michael stand up, the great prince, which standeth for the children of thy people. And there shall be a time of trouble such as never was since there was a nation, even to that time. And at that time, thy people shall be delivered. Everyone that shall be found written in the book. That's what Daniel saw.

That's what Daniel heard. And that is the gospel. Jesus said, he who endures to the end shall be saved. So, Doc, I think that this time of, we said a moment ago, Michael, Michael is, doesn't, the angel Michael is, his role is not to prevent the time of trouble to stop the tribulation but to get God's people through this tribulation this time that Daniel talks about at that time I believe that this follows the time of wars and rumors of wars and earthquakes and the pestilence and all the things that are in Matthew 24. And then we reach this time. I mean, people think that's bad. And Jesus said, hey, that's just a warmup. That's just a beginning. That's the beginning of sorrow. That's just the beginning of sorrows. The real stuff is

up ahead. And I believe that's when Michael stands up. Now, does that mean Michael is seated right now? He's just hanging out in a recliner chair somewhere? No, that's not what it means. It means it is a symbolic image that this great warrior angel knows at that moment he is to rise and to take his position as God's defender of the church. Right. We have our military that is on standby constantly in case of attack, in case someone tries to invade, or at least we would hope they would be. And they're always on standby, always on alert. But when the call comes to action, they rise up and they provide the air support that's needed. That's kind of how I've imagined Michael defending God's people.

Well, Doc, you read Jeremiah 30, verses 7 to 10, but there's another one in the New Testament, and that is Matthew 24, 21. And these are the words of Jesus Christ. He says, for then shall be great tribulation, such as hath not been from the beginning of the world until now, nor ever shall be. Now, Jesus didn't find this as the great tribulation, but he said there shall be great tribulation. In other words, trouble will continue to increase, but it's going to get so great at the end. But he didn't define a period

of time. He didn't say it was going to be a length of time of so many years or so many days or anything like that. He said there will be great tribulation. The only other condition he put on it, he said, if God the Father does not cut the day short. No flesh will survive. So that time of tribulation becomes so horrific that our Heavenly Father, He has to stand up and say, that's it, that's enough. Can you imagine the devastation that would be in the world

where your question, will humanity survive? Will life itself survive on the planet? It was such a concern to God. He says, God says, now's the time. That's it. And that's when they intervened. And that's when we see in Daniel 12 verse one. And at that time, thy people shall be delivered. Thy people shall be delivered, delivered by whom? The Lord Jesus Christ. He shall come on clouds of glory. He shall come for his church. We will be delivered. Everyone that shall be found written in the book. Now, apparently these that endure, these that are rescued by the Lord at this time are still those who are alive on earth at this point. So we know now that there

will be believers all the way up, right up till the very end of time. That's right. Now the rapture people say that these are people who get saved after the secret rapture. But again, how do they get saved? Because the same people teach that the Holy Spirit is removed. Well, you can't be saved without the Holy Spirit. And what are they saved into? Do they believe on the name of Jesus? Are they baptized into His church? Who baptizes them? Who disciples them if the church is gone?

And what's the point of removing the church only to start another church? That's a great question, Rick, and one they can't readily answer. Because there is no answer for it. There's only one church, and it will remain on the earth until Christ comes. And at that time, thy people, God's holy people, Israel, the church, the's holy people, Israel, the church.

The church is Israel and Israel is the church. The church did not replace Israel. Israel and the church are one. They've always been one. Israel means, Israel's not a country. It's not a political government. Israel represents the people of God who love God, obey God, serve God. And in for the past 2000 years, that has meant they believe on the name of Jesus Christ as Lord and savior. He is the Son of God. If you do not believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, you are not Israel. It's just that simple. It doesn't matter what you call yourself.

You're not a member of Israel if you reject Jesus Christ as the Son of God. Israel means the people of God. The people of God have always been the people who obey God, who have faith in him. Abraham is the father of our faith. And it's by faith that we are saved. Faith in Jesus Christ, faith in what he did for us on the cross at Calvary. That's what gets your name in the book of life. And so at that time, God's people shall be delivered. And Jesus Christ shall completely, completely redeem his people. He shall take them out of this earth. He shall gather his church.

We shall meet him in the air. And then this old planet is set on fire. I believe that we're going to be looking down. We're going to be looking down and watching this planet be consumed in fire. I tell people the saints will feel the heat on their feet as they go up in the air to meet the Lord. And we're going to look down and go, I could have been there. If it wasn't for the grace of God,

I could have been down there. It's by the grace of God, I'm saved. He's going to get us out of there. He's going to save us. And you don't have to worry about it. If your name is in the book, you're going to be saved. You will be delivered.

You will be redeemed at that time. Doc, in Revelation 3, verse 10, Jesus in his letter to the church of Sardis. Yes. He mentioned a time upon the earth. He said to the church at Sardis, because thou didst keep the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of trial, that hour really kind of lays out the whole idea that there will be a church that exists all the way up to the end of time itself. Because this is going to be an hour trial that will cover the whole earth. Has there been that yet?

No. Not yet in this time. No. And it's a limited time of trial. It's not an endless time of trial. It's an hour of trial. It's a specific period. I don't know whether it's 60 minutes,

but it's a period of time that's set by God. And it's not regional. It's not local. It's not regional. It's global. He says that hour, which is to come upon the whole world, the entire world, the entire church,

every denomination, every Christian in every nation will be in this hour where they will be tested. But Jesus said, I will keep you. I will preserve you. I will save you because you kept the word of my patience. Jesus is saying, because you stayed true to me, I will stay true to you. And when that hour comes, I will keep you.

I will rescue you. And my friends, we are going to see, and I don't know when this is going to, we're going to see calamities in the near future that we never thought we would witness. We're on the edge of a nuclear war. And it's only the grace of God that's holding it back. And why? Because he desires that more people be saved. Satan wants world war. Satan wants Russia and the United States and NATO to go to war. Satan is pushing for that war.

Why? Because he wants a billion souls lost. He wants them to be burned up in a nuclear war, unsaved. And they'll never be saved the moment their breath is taken from them and their soul departs their body. Those people will never be saved. That's why Satan wants a nuclear war, because he could wipe out a billion souls in an hour. And God is holding it back. There are mad men and mad women who are driven with this bloodlust for war, and they want this war, and they're pushing for this war,

and we've got to continue to pray that it is restrained. But my friend, we're on the edge, and that war could happen at any hour, and those souls would be consumed. And if I'm talking to somebody right now, and you're watching me on television, and you're not saved,

listen, time is running out. You're watching me for a reason. The Lord God, your maker, your heavenly father, is seeking your soul. He desires you to be saved. And there's something going on inside your spirit right now. And that's the Holy Spirit speaking to you

saying, make that decision. Make that decision. Repent and believe on the name of Jesus Christ and be baptized. My friend, get it done. Find yourself a Bible-believing church somewhere in your town and ask that pastor,

I've got to be baptized. Please baptize me soon. Get it done and get your name in that book. Doc, verse two says, and many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life and some to shame and everlasting contempt. So the question is, when does this take place? Well, we know from verse 1 it takes place right after that time of deliverance. So it happens at that time of deliverance that those, so the people that dwell on the earth are delivered. And then what happens next?

The dead are brought to life. The bodies are raised from the earth, some to glory, some to punishment at that point. That's right. And actually in the actual order, when Christ comes back, is the dead in Christ rise first. That's right. All the graves are open. All the graves are open. Not just some, not just the graves of the saved, not just the graves of the Christian saints, but the graves of every human being

who's ever lived, going all the way back to Adam and Eve. Every grave will open and everybody will come out of their graves, good and bad. Saints and sinners, they'll all come out of their graves at one time. It is an amazing, astounding thought of what's going to happen. But all the graves will open.

Adolf Hitler will come out of his grave. Genghis Khan. Genghis Khan. Mother Teresa, good and bad, they're going to come out of the graves. And what are they going to see? The Lord Jesus Christ. Right. The Lord Jesus Christ is going to be shining in the sky.

Why? Why are they going to see him? Because the sun has gone black. The stars are black. The moon is black. The whole universe has gone dark. It's just Jesus standing there. And they'll all come out of their graves at one time.

Listen to me. I know this is a radical thought to some people, but they all get resurrection bodies. Yes, everybody. They all get life. Some to everlasting shame. Some to eternal life. Some to everlasting shame. Some to eternal life.

Some will live with Almighty God in New Jerusalem. Others will live with Lucifer in the lake of fire. But they all get resurrected to death or to life because their bodies are going to burn forever in the lake of fire. It's not just a spirit that gets sent to the lake of fire. They have to have a body. They have to have a body to be punished. They're going to be punished in the body

that they sinned in during their lifetime. They will be in a fire that will not consume them. Their bodies will burn, but their bodies will never disappear. They'll just continue to burn. And the flames, this is dark fire, black fire. The flames are black,

and you can't see the flames in the lake of fire. You want to know why? Because there's no light. There's absolutely no light in the lake of fire. It's total darkness. Why is it total darkness? It's total separation from God. The people will hear the screaming. They'll feel people next to them, but they can't see them. They can't even see the flames. It's so black. It's so dark, so black that even fire has no light. That's total separation from God. But they're going to come out of the graves.

They're going to be bundled and burned. The reapers will separate them, the good and the bad. The wicked will be taken away to the lake of fire. The righteous will be gathered up into the air to meet Christ. The dead in Christ will rise first. And then they that remain, we will meet them in the air.

They get a head start on us. But God, Jesus Christ will deliver his people, all who are found in the book. It's a promise from God. And Rick, one thing to point out to folks that are watching and listening to us today, this happens simultaneously for both saved and sinner. It happens at the same time. There are some that teach that there's a resurrection that happens at the beginning of the millennium,

and then another resurrection, the wicked, that happens at the end of the millennium. But that contradicts Jesus Christ. Well, and where do you see that in verse two? John 5, 28, 29, Jesus told us. It says, marvel not at this, for the hour cometh in which all, all that are in the tomb shall hear his voice and shall come forth, they that have done good unto the resurrection of life

and they that have done evil unto the resurrection of life and they that have done evil unto the resurrection of judgment. What hour? The hour that cometh is that hour. Right, that same time. There's not a separation of some length of time. This happens simultaneously. We're seeing Daniel saying at that time.

And then we're seeing when that hour, Jesus said that hour that shall come in which the tribulation shall be great and all the people of God shall be tried and tested at that hour. Then he said, marvel not at this for the hour cometh. The hour cometh in which all that are in the tomb shall hear his voice. Good and bad, wicked and righteous, saints and sinners will all hear the voice of God,

the voice of Jesus Christ saying come out of the grave. Come out of your tomb. All of them will come out. He said, They that have done good unto the resurrection of life, and they that have done evil unto the resurrection of judgment. There's resurrection for both.

The wicked and the righteous, both are resurrected. Both get a resurrection body. and both are sent to their destinations of eternity. That's right. My friend, what about you? Where will you go on that day? Where will you be taken? Will you be taken into the presence of Jesus Christ to live with him forever? Or will the angels bundle you and haul you off to Beelzebub's barbecue pit on Main Street Hill? You've got to make a decision. That decision is to repent of your sins, believe on the name of Jesus Christ, and be baptized in water in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, you shall be saved. Make that decision. Time is running out. We love you. We'll see you tomorrow.

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