TRUNEWS with Rick Wiles - Today’s Guests: E.W. Jackson and Bill Holter

Episode Date: September 8, 2023

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We have two very interesting interviews for you today. The first guest is a United States presidential candidate who is being ignored by the news media, but he deserves to be heard. The second guest is a longtime commentator on financial news. First, however, I must remind you that True News will change our times on Monday, September 11. We will stream live from 12 noon to 2 p.m. on WWCR, International Shortwave Radio, frequency 12160. Archives of each program will be available on truenews.com until September 30, and then it will switch over to faithinvalues.com.

My first guest today is Bishop E.W. Jackson. Bishop Jackson is a candidate for the 2024 Republican presidential nomination. Following Bishop Jackson, financial news commentator Bill Holter will join us. Both interviews were recorded earlier. Here is Bishop Jackson. There are political agitators in America who are using race to divide us. These agitators are on both the left and the right sides of the political spectrum. Good, decent people are being smeared as racists and bigots. Reputations are being smeared. Careers ruined. Families split apart. History is being rewritten in school and

college textbooks. Statues are being torn down. A political purging of history is underway. Well, my guest today has a unique perspective on America's history. He is an American patriot, and he is a descendant of American slaves. His name is Bishop E.W. Jackson. Bishop Jackson is a U.S. Marine Corps veteran, a retired attorney, and a graduate of Harvard Law School. He is the pastor of The Called Church, and he hosts the Awakening Radio Show on the American Family Radio Network, and he also hosts the Wisdom Awakening Podcast. Bishop Jackson recently published a new book titled Sweet Land of Liberty, Reflections of a Patriot Descended from Slaves. Bishop Jackson, it's an honor and a pleasure to welcome you back to True News. It's been a long time since we last spoke.

I can't believe how many years has gone by since you've been on this program. We've got a lot to discuss. And you are a candidate for the Republican presidential nomination in 2024. Tell us about this decision to enter the presidential campaign. Well, first of all, thank you, Rick, for having me. It's a pleasure and an honor to be with you, and I'm sorry it's taken so long for me to get back, but we'll try to make sure it doesn't take another decade or whatever it is for that to happen yeah i declared on july 14th 7 14 symbolically to represent second chronicle 714 which we all know that my people which are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways i will hear from heaven i will forgive their sin and heal their

land i'm running for the presidency of the United States because I really believe that the most fundamental issue that America faces is that too many of our people, our institutions, are turning their backs on God in all our rebellion against him. And there's simply no way for America to prosper and have a secure future if that becomes the nature of our culture. I mean, blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord, Psalm 33, 12 says. Well, that means cursed is the nation whose God is not. This country was founded on Judeo-Christian principles and ideals, and I'm running to try to restore those principles and ideals, or at the very least inject those in the debate. I'm glad to hear that, sir.

Our country has morally collapsed. I've been speaking out on this issue since we started this ministry in 1998. Our theme has always been Jesus Christ is America's only hope. And our message has always been there is no way to fix America's problems apart from Jesus Christ. And here we are now, Bishop, in 2023, and I don't recognize the country that I'm living in now. I feel like a foreigner. I feel like I've moved to a pagan country. And the abandonment of God, the rebellion against God, the disassociation from all things godly and righteous, it is the central issue in this country's existence right now. And you are the only person running for president in 2023 who has the courage to say it.

There are a lot of people running who will say, I'm a Christian, but they will not say that our future is totally dependent on this nation repenting and going back to the old ways of righteousness. You are absolutely right. Nobody else is willing to say it. People say, well, why are you running? I say because I really believe that there's a part of the discussion that nobody else wants to touch and somebody has got to call the nation's attention to it because to me it is foundational it is fundamental and

you're right i would add one thing to what you said the litany of where we are not only rebellion against god but hostility toward christianity now host toward it, where if you are a Christian, you belong to the one group that it's okay to vilify, it's okay to slander, it's okay to attack, it's okay to marginalize. And yet our founding document says we are endowed by our creator with inalienable rights life liberty the pursuit of happiness which means that i say that our founding fathers laid down not only a a legal and political marker but a cultural marker and that cultural marker was to say we are all accountable to god including our government and our government's job is to act consistently with the rights and the liberties that God has given us.

And now we're in a situation where the government feels it's its job to undermine everything that the Bible teaches and, frankly, everything that the founding fathers decreed to us in terms of a Judeo-Christian nation. Yes, sir. Bishop, you know, I've got great respect for our veterans. I love our patriots in this country. One criticism that I have, and I've had this for 25 years, is many will acknowledge God. Many of them go to church and love God, and yet they think that the solution to America's problems is political, that if we can just change the election, we'll change America. And they talk about, you know, returning to a constitutional republic, and I'm all for that. But what I say to them, Bishop, is the only way we're going to return to a constitutional republic is that we're going

to have to go back to 1776 and find out the way people thought and lived and believed in 1776. They didn't have pornography. They didn't have abortion. They didn't have any kind of sex that you could imagine. They didn't have transgenderism. They didn't have any of this depravity that we have today and you're going to have to look at the sermons that were preached in 1776 and you're going to have to ask yourself are these sermons still welcomed in churches in america today because this is the problem if you want the constitutional republic to return you've got to return to being like the patriots of 1776 in your mind, in your heart, in your behavior. You know, George Washington said that you should not even consider yourself a patriot

if you believe that America can prosper without God and the Bible shouldn't even consider yourself a patriot and remember his first proclamation the first words of the first proclamation of the first president of the United States were it is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of almighty god to obey his will to be grateful for his benefits and to humbly implore his favor and protection you are so right if a president stood up now and said that the aclu would go apoplectic there would be all kinds of hue and cry about separation of church and state and yet that's the culture of our founding fathers that's the culture of early

america and you're right you can't have a constitutional republic without it because the constitutional republic is based on the notion that government is not god god is god and that government's job is to secure rights given to us by god not to make up rights like same-sex marriage and and abortion and and things that are an abomination to god just making up these things as rights and injecting all of this stuff into the body politic you are so right we are in a spiritual battle i mean it may be fought out in the cultural arena but it is ultimately a spiritual battle and if we're not fighting it on that level in fact i've said this any person running for president who doesn't understand that we are in the middle of an all-out cultural revolution and rebellion against God really shouldn't get

anywhere near the White House because you really don't understand what's going on in America. That's right. Bishop around me, I'm in my office right now and I have an extensive library. Most of my books are very old and I, I just stopped reading new books. I like your book. All right. But, but I, I don't like a lot of new books. I, I, I read old books and, and I read old books to get sound doctrine and to and to get sound history because i have history books here that are 100 150 200 years old and guess what it's different

than what they're teaching kids today well did history change you can't change history but you can change history books. And the Christian books that I read, the sermons that I read, the commentaries that I read, is so different than what I hear today and read today. 200 years ago, you would have been a normal candidate running for office, a God-fearing, Bible-believing man who wants America to be a God-fearing, Bible-believing, righteous nation. You would have been an average, normal candidate.

But today, you're not. You're the sideshow to these people that are running the political system of this country. You're the outsider trying to get in. It used to be they were the outsiders trying to get in. How is the Republican Party officially, how are they treating you? Well, look, it depends on who you talk to and where you go.

I've talked to some of the local and state leaders, for example, in Iowa, who've been very receptive, in fact, very warm, accommodating, inviting. The National Party, the Republican National Committee, has not even acknowledged that I'm a candidate. when they put out the list of declared republican candidates they intentionally lead me out and there's no excuse for it because we're not simply talking about the candidates who made the debate stage we're talking about all the candidates that they say are declared republican candidates somehow my name is never included in the mix. And it's because, look, let me just make no bones about it. When Lana McDaniel put out a memo, a letter to Republicans saying, you know, we want to congratulate the LGBTQ community on Gay Pride Month that we want to celebrate.

I said she should resign because she is in violation of the platform of the Republican Party, because the Republican Party's platform continues to affirm family as God designed it and does not affirm homosexuality because homosexuality is sin and pride in sin is a double abomination because not only are you sinning, but now you're proud of it. So look, the Republican Party establishment doesn't want to hear from a candidate who is willing to say you know abortion is the killing of an unborn baby homosexuality is sin you can't transition from one gender to another it is a physical spiritual and psychological impossibility no matter how much you twist yourself into believing you can

they don't want to hear that they want to hear well let's go along and let's get along and let's compromise. But the problem is we keep compromising, like the compromise between the chicken and the hog. You know, the chicken says to the hog, yeah, let's compromise. The chicken drops an egg, but the hog has to drop a leg. And so we conservatives are always dropping legs. We're always giving in. We're always backing up. And the culture continues to degenerate. So the Republican establishment is not happy that I'm running. But you know what?

I don't care because I really believe, Pastor Rick, that there are tremendous grassroots forces out there that are looking for a voice like mine. And when they find out that I'm running, and they will, they're going to gravitate to it. What states are you campaigning in right now? Well, right now, Iowa, New Hampshire. Haven't gotten into South Carolina yet, but we're headed to South Carolina. We're going to campaign in every battleground state where there's a Republican primary of note.

So we intend to be in them all. I think you could do well in South Carolina. I think so, too. My advice to you would be focus all your time and energy in South Carolina and make a statement there and surprise them on Election Day. And then they'll have to take you seriously. Amen. What is your analysis of the situation that President Trump is in right now? I think that President Trump for four years served this nation as well, if not better, than almost any presidents we've ever had. Uh, but I think that he is such a threat to the deep state, meaning the leftist hold on our government.

I mean, when you have 51 intelligent agency heads telling a lie about the Hunter Biden computer in order to make sure that president Trump did not get elected, it tells you what enemies he stirred up. And I think that all of these charges against him, well, look, you could nitpick on each one here and there, but the fact of the matter is that Stacey Abrams and Hillary Clinton and John Kerry and Al Gore all questioned the outcome of their elections, and nobody claimed that they were traitors,

nobody claimed that they were committing a crime, nobody claimed that they were involved in conspiracy theories. Suddenly President Trump has done that and he's a conspiracy theorist. Look, I think that they intend to put the man in jail if they can. I just saw that Enrico Tarrio, which I'm no fan of the Proud Boys, I don't really know anything about him or follow them, but he got 22 years in prison, in federal prison, and he wasn't even in Washington, D.C. that day. He was in Baltimore because he had been arrested and kicked out of the city two days before, and he got 22 years in federal prison, apparently because he was somehow coordinating the conspiracy now again i i think that they have turned the criminal justice system into a weapon against people that they don't like or agree with i don't know i mean there may be things that the proud boys espouse that i don't agree with i don't believe that the criminal justice system ought to be used

to punish people because of their views it ought to punish people only because they commit crimes. And I think right now, President Trump is kind of the poster boy of the perversion and corruption of the criminal justice system and using it to destroy people who you don't like politically. It's a tragic day for our country, frankly. It is, and it's obvious they want him in prison or they want him in a coffin. They don't care if he has a stroke or heart attack because of the stress that they're putting on him.

They don't care. They just want him out. They want to destroy people. agencies and the FBI can conspire to work with technology companies, social media companies, and the news media to destabilize a sitting president and remove him from office and then block him from running again. What does that say? Are we even free anymore, Bishop? Well, I'll tell you what, our freedom is maybe not even so slowly anymore, maybe rapidly slipping away. And again, that's one of the reasons why I'm running, because I want to make clear, I've said this. I would be a president who would say to my attorney general, by the way, Matt Staber, I've told Matt stabra that if i become president he's going to

be my appointment attorney general but i would say to any attorney general you are not to use the criminal justice system or the justice department to punish our political enemies it is to be used to enforce federal law that is it that is all if i find out that you're using it to or anybody in the justice department is using it to punish people because we don't agree with them you will be fired on the spot and if you are engaged in criminal behavior in that regard I will need the charge to get you put in jail we can't have a country Pastor Rick we can't have a country if people don't have confidence that the criminal justice system is not out to get them because people who populate it don't like them or agree with them. I mean, that's just not who we are as a constitutional republic.

But you're right. It is fast slipping away. And we're going to do something to arrest this slippage or we're going to end up living in a totalitarian country. That's right. Well, Bishop, I appreciate you being here today. Anybody listening or watching True News, if you want to know more about Bishop Jackson's campaign, his presidential campaign website is ewjacksonforpresident.com. And, Bishop, I wish you well. And I'm saying this sincerely. I think you would make a very good vice presidential running mate in 24. And I mean that. I hope somebody looks at you and says, this man could serve as – I think he could serve as president.

But I know realistically I know what you're up against. But I pray the Lord elevates you and promotes you and gives you access. And so that the word of the Lord is spoken inside Washington. He will have a voice. You know, Daniel served in four administrations. In the Old Testament, Daniel served as basically prime minister in four different governments. And God had a voice inside government. God had a man that would obey him. And I believe that the Lord could raise you up at the same time and place you in Washington.

There needs to be a voice for Jesus Christ in Washington. Everything going on in this country is to drown out the name of Jesus. And what we need to do is not lower our voices, but we need to raise our voices. We need to do the opposite of what the ruling class is trying to do. They're trying to censor us. They want us to be quiet. They want us to go away. We need to speak up. We need to speak louder. And the thing that they don't want to hear is the name. The name. The name, Jesus Christ. Hinduism apparently is okay, but Jesus Christ is not. And you're right.

That, that has, that has got to change. Listen, brother, I'm willing to serve wherever the Lord sees fit to place me. I'm putting myself out there because I really believe this is something God has called me to do, but my heart is to serve him. And of course, to help serve this country, which I really believe this is something God has called me to do. But my heart is to serve him and, of course, to help serve this country, which I really believe he's given us. And I don't want to turn it over to the devil, and I'm never going to lay down and allow that to happen on my watch.

That's right. Well, he's using you to be his witness in this political campaign, and I commend you for it and pray for you. And we'll be following your campaign. Feel free to keep us informed about what's going on. Bishop E.W. Jackson, good to see you again, sir. God bless. Thank you. Good to see you, too.

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We are 15 years past the 2008 financial crisis that crashed banks and the real estate market, Western governments plus China pumped massive amounts of so-called quantitative easing money into the markets. Somehow they managed to avert a total meltdown of the global financial system. However, we are now reaping the whirlwind caused by the injection of trillions of dollars into the markets by central banks. Inflation is rampant worldwide and shows no signs of stopping. Meanwhile, the commercial real estate market is tanking in the USA and in China. Where are we headed? Does anybody know? Well, Bill Holter is with me today to give

us his insights. He's been in the financial services industry for a long time, including a stockbroker for 23 years, a financial newsletter writer for a number of years, and Bill worked with Jim Sinclair for about seven years. He's now a precious metals broker who clears his transactions through Miles Franklin. His website is BillHolter.com. And Bill, it's been a long time. I used to interview you a lot, especially during the financial crisis. And it's good to meet up with you again. Somehow, Bill, we survived that crisis.

They, the central bankers, they pumped gazillions of dollars into the world markets and they kept it on life support. But there's a blowback coming now with inflation. Where are we in this crazy ride? How do you describe it? Well, thanks for having me back, Rick. First thing I want to say is that the one thing that we missed back in 2008, 9, 10, is that the central banks and sovereign treasuries themselves literally blew up their balance sheets. I mean, they have bankrupted themselves. So this time around, as opposed to what happened back in 2008, 2009,

the central banks really don't have the ability on their balance sheets i mean you're looking at a 9 10 trillion dollar fed balance sheet now where are they going to go without 100 trillion i mean i don't i don't see uh the possibility uh that markets will accept that type of new money into the system without absolutely destroying currencies uh when i say destroy currencies you're looking at a hyperinflation accept that type of new money into the system without absolutely destroying currencies uh when i say destroy currencies you're looking at a hyperinflation we i think when we talked uh years ago we talked about uh having both deflation and inflation at the same time and you're you're witnessing that right now you mentioned commercial real estate

uh just look at some of the hotels that have been sold just over the last six months at prices uh less than 50 percent of pricing back in 2015 i actually saw a hotel i think it was in san francisco it turned over uh it was sold at 43 that 43 percent of the 2006 price and that's just a function of vacancies if you will this is not commercial real estate but there was an article out yesterday that 75 percent of federal office buildings are vacant because people are still working from home so you've got the absolute outright deflation in commercial real estate. And I mean, all you have to do is live and breathe to understand that there's huge inflation of the things you need. So the inflation that we're experiencing now, is this the blowback from

the quantitative easing? You know, guys like you and me were telling people back in 2008, nine and 10, there's going to be a price to pay for all this money. Are we experiencing it now? Yeah, we absolutely are. And we had inflation all along the way. All you have to do is look at asset prices because that's what, that's what uh that's what the banking system targeted if you will was trying to reflate uh the deflated assets and it worked uh however now you've got inflation of real goods you've got supply chains that have that were you

know broken down during covet so yeah this is absolutely blowback from our policy. Bill, you mentioned COVID. How serious was the COVID impact on the economy. Has the economy recovered from the lockdowns and from the loss of life through both COVID and the vaccines, the fake vaccines? You know, we're seeing shortages of pilots and certain industries that have this unexpected shortage of workers. And I believe it's because of the mass vaccination and either people retired or quit or they died off because of the vaccination. What impact have we seen worldwide through the COVID pandemic? Yeah, you're right.

The airline industry, even the healthcare industry, they're having a hard time getting nurses, doctors, etc. Because many of them were not willing to take the vaccine, and the ones that did, some of them had adverse effects, some of them died i think the the biggest i think the biggest uh smackdown from covid is that small businesses across the country got wiped out so it was truly a culling if you will of the upper middle class the business the small business owner many of those were forced into bankruptcy or closing their business because they had no cash flow for six months or 12 months, yet they still had expenses. So yeah, I think that the real economy has absolutely been affected. And we haven't even talked about supply chains. I mean, supply chains now are more fragile than they've ever been.

Why are supply chains still fragile? What's holding up the supply of products? The concept of just-in-time inventory, which when everything's working perfectly that works but you obviously had uh you you had shipping disruptions you had transit disruptions all kind all sorts of disruptions and i mean you could you could even see it in your grocery store uh i've just just as an example uh and and this may be uh this may be due to all the i don't know what what word you want to use i want to don't want to use the word miraculous but the the coincidental fires that you've seen uh at poultry farms i feed uh my two dogs once a week i feed them chicken hearts livers and gizzards and for probably oh close to three

months now it's been really hard to find chicken hearts or gizzards you can find livers but you can't find the hearts or gizzards my point being uh the the the supply chain uh has been been hollowed I mean, we've seen all kinds of, of, I think there was what 200 and 240 fires across the country in either, you know, ranches where, where there were pigs or cattle or, or chickens. I think that our, our food supply chain has been attacked. That's interesting that you said that because, I mean, we've all seen it. We saw last year there was a series of food processing companies that burned down, unexplained arson and fires breaking out.

This year I've noticed grain silos exploding around the world. Massive explosions of grain silos. It's just like something's in the air. You know, this is not a good year to be a grain silo. And so you have to wonder, is somebody deliberately sabotaging the world food supply? Well, Rick, I don't think you have to wonder is somebody deliberately sabotaging the world food supply? Well, Rick, I don't think you have to wonder. I mean, they've come right out and said by 2030, you're going to own nothing.

And I don't know where the be happy part comes from, but they've, they've come out and officially said there's too many people on the planet. They want to depopulate the planet um the two the best way to control the population is to control the food supply so i don't think you have to speculate uh at all because this has been plainly said by klaus schwab george soros the we the WEF. This is not a mistake. And I want to mention, I first started whiting in 2007. And one of my first articles that I wrote,

I came right out and said that the policies that were being put in place were too stupid to be mistakes. And to this day, I still think that's correct. I think it's all a plan. I agree. I agree. You know what I wonder about? And I'm in agreement with you, Bill, that I don't wonder about it. I asked you the question because I wanted to see your answer. But I know, you know, in my heart, I know that the ruling class is waging war against the people of the world. And they have a plan to change the world, to alter everything about civilization.

They will alter the human race. Everything that they're doing is to change. I think they're remaking Genesis. Actually, I think that they're in is to change. I think they're remaking Genesis. Actually, I think that they're in war with God. I think they're remaking Genesis. I agree. They are planning to remake everything that was made at the beginning of the world so that we have a completely fake, synthetic, man-made world.

That's where they're taking us. And the question is, how many people are aware, let's say right here in the USA, what percentage of the population do you believe has a reasonable comprehension that the ruling class has launched a war on humanity? I'm going to say probably 60% of the population

knows that something's wrong, but they don't know exactly what it is. They just know something's not right my guess is maybe maybe 15 percent of the population really understands it and rick you you bring up uh genesis i think the the more pertinent chapter would be revelations i mean this to me this looks like end times what is it is and the reason i bring up genesis is because i believe we are in the end times and satan's team is trying to undo what god made in genesis and to give us a world that is ruled by lucifer and this ruling class that's in charge of the West,

you know, they don't have power over the entire world, but they're waging war against the world. And the Russians seem to know what's going on. Medvedev and Putin and Lavrov make references to the end of the world, Armageddon, to the book of Revelation. They certainly send out messages in their speeches and their social media posts that they are aware that they are engaged in a battle against satanic forces. And I think for most people, it's so huge and so mind-boggling

that they can't really comprehend what's going on because how do you respond to it? What do you do? Who do you battle? Who is your enemy? And how do you respond to something this big, this evil? And I think this is the conversation that a lot of people are having right now who are aware. I'm talking about the people who are aware.

I think they are now having these conversations in the privacy of their homes and their offices saying, we're up against demonic powers. This isn't human anymore. These people are beyond, beyond being evil. You said at the beginning their decisions were too stupid, that something couldn't be right. And we all had that feeling like nobody's this stupid. And I have wondered for years, Bill, long before AI became popular in the past year,

I wondered years ago, was the ruling class already using AI to make decisions? And we're wondering, how in the world did you come up with that policy? And it's because they're following the instructions of AI. Have you thought about that? Yeah, I have thought about that possibly yeah i have thought about that i i think you're you're as i mentioned because the policies were too stupid they couldn't be mistakes but if you look at where we are now versus where we were back in you know 2007 when i told you i wrote that article

the plan has worked i mean they have boiled the pot slowly but surely and here we are and we're on the doorstep of uh central bank digital currency we're on the doorstep of of total tyranny um and you mentioned uh russia and obviously the the russian orthodox church i mean look at the statements that comes out of or have come out of russia versus statements that have come out of the vatican i mean they're night and day so i mean and you know i don't want to get bombarded by by people saying you know i'm anti-Catholic or whatever. But some of the statements that have come out of the Vatican are just ridiculous. And on their face, they're not Christ-like. They're not correct.

Well, a lot of Catholics would tell you, Bill, they believe the Vatican was overthrown. They believe that they have an imposter pope. And they're scratching their heads going, what is going on? Why is the pope saying these things? Why is the Vatican making these policies? This doesn't make sense. And a lot of Catholics believe that the installation of the current Pope was actually a coup d'etat. That for a period of time, we had two Popes in the Catholic Church, and the real Pope

passed away recently. But it was a coup d'etat. It was a takeover of the Vatican. And so the Vatican was a major target that they had to take them down. They had to get inside. They had to take them down in order for this plan to work. And you have to marvel at the scope of their agenda and the depth of their planning. Absolutely.

Yeah, that was my point, is that their strategy, even though it looked, you know, at the time to be ridiculously stupid, they piled one on top of another, and here we are. It was a brilliant strategy to just go little piece by little piece. And like I said, here we are. The trap is ready to be snapped shut. Yes. Bill, I've got about two and a half minutes remaining. I wanted to ask you about the recent BRICS summit in South Africa in August. I think there were about six nations that were invited to join. It's an invitation, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Egypt, the UAE.

Saudi Arabia has not accepted the invitation yet. They said recently that they're trying to figure out how they can join BRICS without alienating their other partners, meaning the United States. Do you think Saudi Arabia will join BRICS? I think that's pretty much a foregone conclusion. I mean, they're going to go where the power has gone, and the power has gone east, and it's left the west. Militarily, the U.S. does not have the hypersonics that Russia has. Financially, the U.S. does not have the gold that China has.

It does not have the manufacturing that China has. The power has already moved, and it's been moving for years, but it is de facto moved from the West to the East. So I think there's no question Saudi Arabia, they're going to want to be on the winning team. And it looks like the winning team is going to be the East, not the West. And of course, I think it's easy to say Iran will join. They were formally invited. The other big one is Egypt. Egypt and the United Arab Emirates.

I mean, America is losing its allies. Yeah, I think it's interesting that both Iran and Saudi Arabia were invited and in the process of joining at the same time because they're such staunch enemies. I thought that was a – I wrote an article a couple weeks back, and I put it in there. I thought that was a very unusual combination, but I think it's telling. Well, a few months ago, remember, Xi Jinping negotiated some type of treaty, some type of settlement between Iran and Saudi Arabia. Right.

So they're coming together. And the reason Xi Jinping was doing it was to get both of them into BRICS. One last question. The central bank digital dollar. Do you think the Federal Reserve will release it? And if yes, when do you expect it to happen? I have no idea on the when.

I absolutely believe they're going to try to release it. Does it work? I don't know i i suspect there's there's the united states is still too rural and there's too much space where you're going to have people that will just refuse to use it uh urban areas of course they're going to use it but rural areas uh i mean can you can you imagine uh a local farmer using digital currency i i just i don't see it i mean cash is still used in middle america it's obviously you know you just tap your card or whatever on your smartphone to transfer money if you're in a big city but out you know out in the sticks that's i don't see

how it's going to work and let me just elaborate a little bit on this uh we've we've talked for years about a financial reset i think the the implementation of a digital currency won't happen until after there's a financial collapse and they'll you know people will be begging for help and that's going to be you know like they say don't ever let a a crisis go to waste i think they're going to use whatever crisis is coming as cover for implementing the digital currency and going back to the bricks i do believe that is part of the reset it's's a reset of power, you know, the power structure globally. That's the new world order.

The new world order that was envisioned by George Bush and the elites back in the 70s and 80s, I think that is in the process of failing simply because the West is losing power or has lost power. Yeah. We've been in the New World Order since post-World War II, and the Western New World Order is dying, and an Eastern new world order is arising and the question is will the west go to war with the east to try to hang on the power and i know i've asked you as i've said one more question are you expecting a nuclear war before this is all settled regarding who's controlling the world? It's very possible. And I mean, just logically, if the West get, feel, not if they get to the point, but if they feel or sense they're at the point of losing power, yeah, they're going to kick the table over.

And they can kick the table over and then point at the table and say well our policies were working except for the nuclear war and i guess my only comment on nuclear war is uh what else do you know of that could be or or be the cause of fire from the sky. There's nothing else that I know of. So, I mean, it is biblical. So I imagine, yes, we will have nuclear war at some point. Yeah. And the eye sockets rotting

out, as mentioned in Scripture. Hey, Bill, it's good to talk to you again. Thank you for coming by. True news. I hope we won't wait seven years. We'll get back to you soon. And glad to have you on the program again. All right. Bill Holter, his website is billholter.com. We're going to take a break. I'll be back in a minute with some more True News. Well, thanks for joining us for today's edition of True News. We so appreciate you tuning in.

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