TRUNEWS with Rick Wiles - USS Liberty Remembered: Part 1

Episode Date: June 8, 2023

Today is June 8, 2023. It is the 56th anniversary of the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty. The US government, news media, and historians call it an incident. The official narrative is that the attack on the USS Liberty was accidental, a case of mistake identity in a time of war. If you ask the survivors, they will quickly tell you it was not an accident and it was not an incident. Most of them would say it was a deliberate massacre of American servicemen and a intentional attempt to sink the ship in the Mediterranean Sea. Rick Wiles and Doc Burkhart are here to recall that memorable two evenings in August 2020 when the men of the USS Liberty visited us. Rick Wiles, Doc Burkhart. Airdate 6/08/23 Purchase the 4-part DVD set or start streaming Sacrificing Liberty today.https://www.sacrificingliberty.com/watchYou can partner with us by visiting TruNews.com/donate, calling 1-800-576-2116, or by mail at PO Box 690069 Vero Beach, FL 32969. It’s the Final Day! The day Jesus Christ bursts into our dimension of time, space, and matter. Now available in eBook and audio formats! Order Final Day from Amazon today! https://www.amazon.com/Final-Day-Characteristics-Second-Coming/dp/0578260816/ Apple users, you can down the audio version on Apple Books! https://books.apple.com/us/audiobook/final-day-10-characteristics-of-the-second-coming/id1687129858 The Fauci Elf is a hilarious gift guaranteed to make your friends laugh! Order yours today! https://tru.news/faucielf

You are listening to True News with Rick Wiles. We appreciate you tuning in. To find out more information regarding the broadcast, including prayer and financial support, please visit our website at truenews.com. Our mailing address for all correspondence is True News, P.O. Box 690069, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. So help us God. Today is June 8, 2023. It is the 56th anniversary of the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty. The U.S. government, the news media, and historians call it an incident. The official narrative is that the attack on the USS Liberty was accidental, a case of mistaken identity in the time of war. If you ask the survivors, they will quickly tell you it was not an accident and it certainly was

not an incident. Most of them would say it was a deliberate massacre of American servicemen and an intentional attempt to sink the ship in the Mediterranean Sea several years ago. We produced an astounding historical four-part docuseries about the attack on the USS Liberty. We did something no other filmmaker had ever done. We interviewed the survivors, not the historians, not the so-called experts, but the survivors. We recorded what the veterans said happened that day. If you have never watched Sacrificing Liberty, I encourage you to go to sacrificingliberty.com and watch the four one-hour documentary films. You can buy the film with unlimited viewing or purchase a DVD set. Again, the website is sacrificingliberty.com. Now, prior to releasing Sacrificing Liberty to the public, we invited members of the USS Liberty Veterans Association to a private screening of the docuseries. We flew them to Florida and hosted them as our guest.

We also gave them something our government never did for them. We gave them a hero's welcome. At the time when we organized the ceremony for them, we did not know that the veterans had never been welcomed home and had never been given any ceremony to honor their service to the United States of America. I was stunned when several of those veterans had tears in their eyes, and they told me they had waited 53 years for such a patriotic ceremony. I now wish we had done more for them that day. Dr. Burkhardt is here to recall that memorable two days in August 2020 when the men of the USS

Liberty visited us here in Vero Beach. Doc, that was quite a day. It was historical. And you know, the ceremony, I thought we were just, you know, we were giving them the best that we could. We wanted to welcome them. We gave them a police escort. We asked the Indian River County Sheriff's Office if they would provide a police escort from the hotel to our church. And they graciously did that. We had the local VFW. Yes, with their honor guard out here.

They brought their honor guard. And so we gave them a ceremony on our property. And I was sitting there watching these veterans with tears running down their cheeks. And one of them leaned over and said, I've waited 53 years for this to happen. And it just shocked me. I had no idea that a half a century had passed by and that these veterans had never been given a hero's welcome home. As a matter of fact, just the opposite. I mean, in many ways. They were told

to shut up. Yeah. They were kind of made the villain in this USS Liberty saga because they didn't want to shut up. These men have been under official orders of the U.S. Navy since 1967 to not talk about what happened. Those orders are still in effect today. And what these men did in 2020, we started filming, I guess, in 2019, finished up in 2020. What they did was something they had never done in 50-some years.

They talked on camera about what happened. They were under orders not to talk. But these men who are, you know, they're in their 70s, 80ss one of the men that's in the film was in his 90s he passed away a year or two ago so these men they had reached a place in their life they said who cares who cares if we get in trouble we're going to talk. Right. And so they record it in their own voices. What they recalled happened that day. And I'm telling you, folks, this film, this is the DVD set.

This is unlike any movie about the USS Liberty ever made because most of the movies, I would say all the movies, they don't talk to the veterans. Right. They're spinning a narrative, Doc. Whoever writes the history books gets to determine reality. Right. And so they crank out these historical films, but they have the official historians tell the story.

What we did is that we skipped the historians and we went to the survivors. Yes, who told the real story of what happened that day. I'm telling you, folks, if you haven't watched this, you really need to see this movie. And you might be thinking, four hours? That's a long, it's four one-hour parts. But I'm going to tell you,

this is what I have heard many people say i know what you're going to say they'll start watching the first one and then they can't stop they go through all four hours we heard that over and over and over people said i i watched the first one i didn't i had to watch the second one then i had to watch the third one and before i knew it four hours had gone by. I had to watch all four hours of the film. It's powerful. It is stunning. It is gripping. You will sit there in your seat just stunned and amazed that this story has never been told. And I don't know, Doc, why God chose us that this ministry would be

the entity that would record this historical event. But this right here, this movie, whether you have it in the physical DVD version or the digital online, this is a collector's item right and I really think you should get the DVD even if you get the streaming version it's a collector's item because it's never been done before it there's nothing like it it's it's can you imagine if we had video back in the Civil War, if somebody would have recorded Antietam, the men that survived Antietam. Can you imagine if we had that now? We'd have those stories. And we'd take those eyewitness accounts of what happened that day as what really happened.

And that's exactly what we did with this particular production now not included on that dvd are the reactions of the liberty veterans that we saw that night when we those two nights that we screened the movie for them that's what we want to share with you today. Yeah. So what we did, if you didn't see this in 2020, I know we have a lot of new viewers, and so you're not sure what we're talking about. So before we released Sacrificing Liberty to the general public, we had a private screening here in our church. And so we flew a lot of the members of the liberty association we invited all of them but the ones that said yes i'll come now you got to remember a lot of these men are are getting up there in years and so making this trip and this was during covet wasn't it 2020 just as it was ramping up it was august of 2020 yeah so a lot of them were worried about flying, about traveling.

But we did have a group of the veterans who came here. Some who had never talked about their experience on the Liberty that day in 50 plus years. We have several that were in that particular category. Who didn't appear in the film but decided to come to the event. That's right. In fact, if you recall, Doc, there was one gentleman that lived in Florida and heard about this event and came. Yes. And was having a reunion with his fellow shipmates. Yes.

It was a moving experience. It really was. So what we did for two nights, we showed each one-hour film to the veterans, and this was the first time they saw themselves on the screen. Yes. And it was the first time that they saw the material that we had gathered that substantiated their words. Historical documents and videos that had been lost in time. And these men sat there for two hours each night watching the films. And then we would spend 30, 45 minutes getting their reaction. And we had an audience here.

Some of you participated. That night, you'll never forget it. You know what I'm talking about. And so we had Q&A from the people who were here in the audience. And then we streamed the event

in a private stream. Those True News fans who subscribe to that event, you were able to watch the entire event in real time. We've never done anything like that. Right. And we ought to do something like that again, Doc. There was a memorable two nights. So what we're going to do today in honor of the men of the USS Liberty, those who died and those who are still alive today, we are going to replay those two nights from August 20 and 21st.

And August 20 is my birthday. I just remember we did that on my birthday. And so we're going to, today and tomorrow, today's June 8th, the anniversary of the attack. So today and tomorrow, we're going to show you that special event that we streamed in 2020. And I hope this is a blessing to you. This story should never be forgotten. You know, as time goes by, I mean, we're at the place now, Doc,

November 22nd comes around and nobody talks about JFK's assassination. Yeah. I mean, it used to be every November. I mean, you talked about it, but now? No. People don't care anymore. We've got to keep this alive. You know, it was just last week was the anniversary of Bobby Kennedy's assassination.

And D-Day. Right. And people don't talk about it. They don't mention these things anymore. We've got to keep this story alive and we can't let the truth die. Amen. and we can't let the truth die. The truth, this is the first time the truth has been fully told about what happened to the USS Liberty. If you don't know the story,

you're going to be, there's all kinds of emotions that come when you watch this film. There's anger, there's shock, there's sadness, there's the whole gamut of emotions run through you. But it's emblematic of the work of the deep state to suppress information that they don't want out. That's right.

And if it had happened in 1967, with more tools and more technology today, what can they do today? Well, we know. We know what they're doing today. Right. They have tools that they've never had before to keep the truth unknown. Let's watch. This is part one from August 20th, 2020, as we present it for the very first time to the veterans of the USS Liberty,

the private premier of Sacrificing Liberty. With a million questions why But if it helps you sleep You can picture me And the bottom Of the sea. June 8th, 1967 started out like pretty much any other normal day. It was, oh God, it was such a beautiful day. It just was gorgeous. I don't remember it being hot.

I don't remember it being cool. It just seemed like the perfect day. Blue skies. Well, we pulled into the Saanau Peninsula area. I mean, it's, you know, you can see things going off. You can see where bombs have gone off. You can see smoke and so forth. I can tell you we never felt threatened by anything.

The day started in a routine manner, just like it always does. You're up, you shower, you shave, you go to breakfast, you go to work. As we got closer to the eastern Mediterranean, the skipper came on and said that we were entering into a hostile area. We went into what was called a wartime cruising condition for the ship. I guess we realized there was something heating up in the Middle East. We knew that the Israelis had complete air superiority. We also knew that the Israelis had taken the Sinai. So really our mission was redundant.

We were in the area that we were told to be in, Israelis had control over. We made our usual rounds, about four and a half, five knots, going up and down the coast, going up and down the coast, picking up signals out of the sky. I mean, it was very legal. We weren't breaking any laws. We were in international waters at all times. 12.5 miles off the coast. Jimmy Cavanaugh, my buddy and I, were told that day to get up in the basket and clean it. Huge basket on the back of the ship called Trescom. And so we're up there

right after breakfast and it's a spectacular beautiful day. We get in the basket, they lift it up some so we can be there and really working around with our brushes or whatever, getting the salt off and keeping it clean. And all of a sudden a boxcar flies very low around the plane, and enough so you could see cameras hanging out the doors. It was rather brazen. The Star of David was well marked on the wings as they surveilled us. We could see the cameraman in the Bombay doors of one of the planes with his camera out photographing us. We started seeing more Israeli aircraft circle the ship over and over again. A flying boxcar, which is a twin-engine plane,

and it got fairly close. And then we had the smaller planes that would circle the ship, circle the ship. That's, you know, we waved at them. And we were pulling for the Israelis because, again, we thought they were our best buddies. I went topside to take a look, and he was only about 200 feet above the water.

And as he went over, he could see the pilot, and he waved and waved back and rocked his wings. And all of it was very friendly. We thought there was no problem. We were glad they were there because they could identify us. We had a 5x8 flag up, brand new flag flag because we wanted to make sure that everybody knew we were American because we didn't know if the herbs were going to come get us at least a half a dozen times Petty Officer Raleigh was was called to the bridge with his camera to take photographs of these aircraft that were coming over.

I could see explosions on the beach. And so things were happening on the beach. We were close enough that you could see stuff was going on. We were all pumped for the Israelis to kick the crap out of the Arabs. That's what we wanted. Everybody wanted to have them win. My position was a very active position that day. In fact, when I went to chow that day,

I went to chow with my buddy, Bob Eisenberg, who was a linguist, and he spoke four languages. Bob was a Jewish man, so he spoke Hebrew. He and I went to lunch at about 11.30, and my mission that day was copying an important target, a military target. And Bob was telling me at lunch that what I was doing was extremely important.

He says, I don't know who it is, but somebody's going to get it. Apparently it was being referenced as the target but but not identifying the target in in the message traffic i worked for a few hours so probably until about 11 30 12 o'clock something like that that. Got a little chow. Then we had a general quarters drill. And I was told it was for chemical warfare. You do different procedures depending on what the attack is. With 100 degrees out there or more on the hot deck,

and pretend like I'm washing down the ship to get the chemicals off of it. The GQ probably took 45 minutes to an hour, I'm guessing. And after it was over, I went up on the main deck and I wanted to see what was going on on the beach now. And on the 04 level, we actually had a carbon-ox search light. So I was going up there, and while I was up there, I wanted to check the beach out, because I was nice and high and could see pretty good,

and there was a binocular up there that I could look. And as I was getting up on the O4 level, a jet fighter was flying along the right side of us. It was black. And all of a sudden, whoosh. And I see this jet going right over. There was no markings on that one, I remember that. And he was flying 50 to 100 feet above the ship.

I could see the pilot quite good. The sound-powered phones weren't working, so I went down the starboard ladder. Just as soon as I got in the hatch, the thing blew up. And there was an officer, a lieutenant, taught his duty was to report any plane that flew by. I turned around to talk to him. I said, did you see that fighter? And he goes, no, where is it?

And as I turned to point to the fighter that I had seen, another one came from about its turn and strafed us. And this chief, or he's a first class then, he grabbed me by the back of the shirt and he says, get in here, man your battle stations. When I first heard that and the rockets hitting, it sounded like someone dragging an anchor chain across the deck. I mean, dragging it fast. All kinds of stuff. And I got covered with shrapnel. The fear was intense because the first thing you knew is,

how do we defend ourselves? You've got to be scared. They're trying to kill you. Who wants to die at 21 years old? And there was kids on there that was 17 and 18. i mean i i didn't know exactly how to handle it you know i'm thinking who's shooting at us? Why are they shooting at us, or who? I was stunned like everybody else was. We were under attack from who? From what?

You know, it was, uh... I guess time... kind of stopped. Captain McGonagall got on the 1MC, which is our internal communications, and said that we were under attacking were blackened aircraft. There were no markings on the aircraft at all. They shot all of our fire hoses up so we couldn't get water to put the fires out. Anybody that showed up on deck was hit. Our postman named Spicer, he takes a direct missile.

Look at these guys. I mean, God, there was guys that were mutilated. I remember seeing.50 caliber shells and tracer bullets coming through the skin of the ship. The original attacking aircraft were French Mirage, and then they sent a couple of Mystere, and they dropped the napalm canisters. I'm Kerry Kinsey and for the next 30 minutes we're going to hear what the veterans have to say and also online we're going to get some answers and get ready for your questions here in the studio. Think of something you'd like to ask the veterans and we're going to pick their brains and find out what they have to say. All right, let's start with our first question from around the world. As Rick said, people are writing and watching this from all around the world. This one is a live chat. Have the USS

Liberty veterans considered how they may have changed history? And had they spoken out before? In other words, if you had not spoken out before, how would you have changed history? Was the fear of the impact on their families too much, or did they seriously consider blowing the lid off the story back then? Phil Turney, would you tell us how you feel about that? Yes, sir. I felt betrayed. I felt terrible for years.

I married my wife, Lisa. We've been married 37 years, and I didn't talk about it then to her because I was too afraid to until I read an article in the Rocky Mountain News by Stan White, Master Chief Stan White. And I said, now, if he can talk, I'm going to talk. And I think the USS Liberty Veterans Association we all pulled together because we support each other and we love each other but uh what what our government did to us and what the Israelis did to us uh now is the time you guys are doing it and uh let them try to get

out of this mess okay Phil thank you hey we said they're coming from around the world. Check this out, Alberta, Canada. And they say, did anyone have an uneasy feeling before the Israeli plane struck, or was it a complete surprise? Let me get Mo Schaefer. Mo, would you answer that question for us? Well, I would say that from the time we left Amijan, we didn't have any clue where we were going, what we were doing. But then we kind of knew when we got into the Sinai Peninsula what was going on. So there was talk about what ifs and all the things that could or could not happen.

But it's really interesting. It really scared us because we were sunbathing right up until the attack happened. But I'll say this. What was, again, on the question? Well, in other words, did you have an uneasy feeling before you saw those planes? It was a complete surprise. Were you a little bit uneasy? Yeah. It was a complete surprise, and I think everybody would agree with that,

that there was no way, especially when it turned out to be Israel. Yes, sir. Thank you. Okay, let's get this question from EJ, and this question is, you said the Israeli planes were painted black. Do you know what kind of planes they were? Let's get John Booth. Would you answer that question? He's not here. Okay, let me get Ronald Kukol. Let's get John Booth. Would you answer that question? He's not here. Okay.

Let me get Ronald Kukol. I can't answer that question simply because I was not topside that morning. And any questions that refer to what happened that morning, I was not topside. I was down below. So I would like to pass that on to whoever can answer it. It's not me. Yes, sir. Yes, I had mentioned in the film here that I had just gotten on the O4 level, and a jet fighter was flying the same direction we were,

and it was black, no markings, and I could see the pilot. He was low. A question from Chris in Switzerland. Is it true there were only two Marines on board? If so, and why? Ernie Gallo, were there only two Marines on board, as you remember? No, there was three Marines. Yes, sir.

They were all linguists. Two of the Marines were killed during the attack. And let me just ask you off, not with a question there, but what was your reaction to what you saw there? Was that a great depiction of what happened that particular day? Yes, it was. It was great. It was very, the impact was awesome for me. Yeah, very moving.

Oh, here's another one. Question from Brian. Do you believe that the USS Pueblo, which was attacked off the coast of North Korea in January of 1968, was also sacrificed like the U.S. Liberty? Bob Scarborough. There is that possibility, but I honestly can't relate to that from our situation.

Yes, sir. Okay, thank you. I knew Pete, and we corresponded. I talked to him on the phone. I read his book. He told me, hey, Phil, if I'd have known about the Liberty, I'd have never got our ship in that position, what happened to you. And a bunch of heroes on the Pueblo, too. Those poor

guys went through everything. Yes, sir. Thank you. Here's a question for the USS Liberty crew, so anybody who wants to take this one. How do we prevent our government from doing more false flags? Who wants to tackle that one? I think you just got it answered, Terry. Yes, sir. Yeah. I mean, the laughter, whatever. You just got your question answered. I wouldn't know, there's no words in the dictionary that I know of to answer that. Thank you. Here's a question from Texas. What are the thoughts of the USS Liberty heroes on 9-11 and Israel's alleged involvement? Larry Bowen. That's an interesting question because prior to 9-11, there was some construction done in the towers in New York City. And the construction that was done happened to be done in the elevators of those towers. And the construction company happened that they could have planted some devices within those buildings.

Because if you noticed when 9-11 aircraft hit those buildings, the buildings didn't immediately collapse. But when they did collapse, they collapsed like a planned demolition, straight down. So, again, I'm not a demolition expert, but I've read a little bit about how that transitioned. And I'm not here to profess that they did or did not have anything to do with it, but it's certainly a possibility. And I'm a firm believer in keep your friends close and keep your enemies closer. So I think it was Ronald Reagan who said, trust but verify. And with some of our allies and friends, we probably ought to do a little more verifying. All right.

Good answer, Larry Bowen. Here's a question from Ronnie. Will our veterans ever get justice? What does that look like? What does justice look like? Would they be happy with just acknowledging a sorry, not so sorry statement from Israel? Who wants that one? Well, sorry doesn't quite cut it. It was never a mistake. It was a planned attack coordinated for what they did to all the people. They just didn't do it to us. They did it to every American, everybody around the country,

everybody around the world. We felt the backhand of Israel like nobody else did. And am I bitter? You bet I'm bitter. But for me, I'd like to see the people that did it, if they're still living, if they're still living, be put on trial. And when they're convicted,

put them in the penitentiary until they're dead. That's the way I feel about it. And the people in our government that supported Israel, they should be tried as well because there's no justice in cold-blooded premeditated murder. I don't care who does it. And Israel did it with the help of Johnson. They got by with it and did this very moment until this film right here. You guys told the truth. We were just the vessels, but you guys did it. You, Rick, Matt, Edward, everybody, and God bless you for it. Thank you. All right, good answer from Phil Turney. Here's another one, question from the live chat. If the USS Liberty veterans had an opportunity to

talk to the current Prime Minister of Israel, maybe Netanyahu. What would you ask him about this incident? I think as the president of the organization, we don't personally have any issues with talking with, and I won't even attempt to pronounce his name because their government and our government colluded on this from the get-go. So all we're really interested in is getting recognition for the 34 patriots that paid the ultimate sacrifice. It's been 53 years, long overdue. What True News and your wonderful staff has done today has just been, you know, unbelievable. And so the government over there tried every way possible to come up with excuses, and our government tried everything possible to make it so that we couldn't get the truth out, and you've helped us today, so there's no need for us to talk to them. All right, good answer, Larry Bowen. Here's a question from the live chat again.

Okay, actually, let's bag this question right here. Let's go to our audience right here in studio. Anybody have a question? If you do, raise your hand, identify yourself. Tell us where you're from. We know a lot of people have flown from all over the country to come here, and we appreciate that. We appreciate your support of True News.

What's your name, sir? Where are you from? What's your question? Yeah, Jeremy Wiles. I'm from down the street. I heard someone in the beginning of the film said that the U.S. flag was up, and I was wondering how long was the flag up on the boat throughout the attack. There was three flags, actually. The first one, it was a brand-new flag.

The old man made sure it was put up. I think either Joe Meadors or one of the other guys did it, but he was the guy that took care of the flags. They shot one down. They shot another 5x8 down. Then we put up the holiday colors, a 7x13 flag, and it didn't get shot down. But they said that there was no flag on that ship. That ship was always flagged.

We were clearly marked USS Liberty on the back, GTR-5 on the front. And the excuse of they couldn't see the flag is a flat out lie, period. Okay, Phil, thank you. I'm sorry, Jeremy, you're in the shade over there. I couldn't make you out. Appreciate it. All right, who else has a question? Where are you from and what's your question?

Dennis Kelly from northern Michigan here with my wife. First of all, it's an honor to be here amongst you heroes. And this movie is just so powerful. I wanted to ask, I talked with Edward earlier, and how was it when you guys realized that you were being sacrificed or you were sacrificed or expendable? How did that make you feel? I know that's a brutal question, but somebody just tell me that. I can't imagine.

Well, I really didn't know how to feel until Admiral Kidd came aboard our ship and dressed us down. He dressed us up, then he dressed us down. And then I knew then that our government had betrayed us and they were covering for the Israelis. The port of inquire was done in about seven days, something like that, seven to ten days. And in this type of attack, it would take months, possibly years, to get it all squared away. So, yeah, it's just been, for me and the rest of them, I'm sure, it's just been a lifelong dream to tell our story. And we're not, listen, we're just telling the truth. They did the murder and we didn't murder anybody. And how do you cover up cold-blooded

murder? How does our country cover that up? And how does Israel get by with it? I don't know. It's just uncalled for. Okay, Phil. The gentleman from the upstate of South Carolina, the couple from Clemson. Sir, identify yourself and tell us what the question is. I want to add to what Phil had to say there, what it felt like. I certainly remember, and my wife is sitting here tonight, but my second wife, when she drug me through court, took my kids away from me because I couldn't handle the situation and I wouldn't talk. And sometimes I talked too much as I got to the point where I was.

I think the rest of the guys will verify this. And I did talk a lot when I had the chance and it was too much. And I got was in a divorce and I can't tell you what it's like to sit in a divorce court and know what you know and be treated like a criminal because I felt that I was and not be able to say a word and I just want to add that on because I would like I I hope, maybe some of the family courts, when they nail some of those guys down, the spinning combat or former military, maybe they should have a judge that's in charge that has some military background. That would help out a lot because at the time that this happened to me, there was no one that understood. I just wanted to add that on.

Thank you. Go ahead. Well, I appreciate everything that these people here are doing and the sailors. I'm a 7th PSYOP person from Okinawa. I served, so I know what PSYOP person from Okinawa served, so I know what PSYOP is. But my question is, gentlemen, the people that were killed on the ship, did we bring them home or did we bury them at sea? Or is there a place for them now besides their home cemeteries or whatever? So out of all the people we lost,

I'm thinking we have one grave at Arlington. If you've ever been there where we do our No Greater Love ceremony each year on June the 8th, we have, I think, five, am I right, Ernie? Six shipmates in that one tomb because they were sucked out the side of the ship or floated out the side of the ship and we never found them. And so there may have been some parts or whatever, but that grave is representative of those six individuals. And then the other 28, they were all, I'm sure, taken and had services and had a funeral, proper burial and all that. But yet it was done in a situation, and this is horrible, every family that had to put their kid down still had no clue why they were dead.

No reason. Nobody to call and talk to. Nobody to come and console them or do anything for them because, again, that day we were chosen to be abandoned, and so they didn't even get their rightful. So the legacy of those has carried on through us of having our annual things that we do and our daily things that we do, praying for them and for each other and all that. But anyway. All right, Mo, thank you. Let's get another question from the audience.

Yeah. Yes, my name is Chuck Slater. My wife and I live in Keystone Heights, Florida. I was a commissioned officer in U.S. Navy years after this went down. But it always come up to my attention, whatever happened to the Tonkin, the Gulf, was that a preliminary thing that drew a quarter million Americans into Vietnam? Talked about false flags and you open up a Pandora's box, never heard of any casualties. Was there supposedly 20 torpedo hits to those two Navy ships? What happened there?

And who's looking into that? And have you guys ever heard anything about that? Yes. After I went back to the Navy the second time, I went on board the USS Maddox, which was in the Tonkin Gulf. And a man, every one of them that were still on there during that incident said that, hey, man, this is a whole bunch of lies, what Johnson said and all this other stuff. So, yeah, over 50,000 men and how many seriously wounded were killed over that lie. Just like the USS Liberty.

It's a lie about what happened. And now that God bless those guys on the Pueblo, because they spent a lot of time, a lot of heartache and a lot of time in jail for just on the Pueblo. But the Maddox, you know, I was on there. Those guys told me exactly what it was. And that's it. All right, Philil thank you how about another question up there here carrie thank you uh roy harris and kathy's over there vietnam bet

and um for the last 30 years every time i hear the word conspiracy theory as soon as they say theory i started thinking there's probably no theory about this. And I think we're seeing a lot of that here. So many things that have happened. A false flag is almost a word that's thrown around what really does mean something. And I was just curious, where is the Hulk? Where is the remains of this vessel? Has it been destroyed? Is there any evidence?

Does anybody know where this actually lies? Thank you. Great question. One of the things that I was amazed about after the attack that I was immediately shipped off to Germany for two and a half years, but the rest of the crew, except the skeleton crew that like Mo and and others, served on, they brought the ship back to the United States. First, it spent months in Malta cutting every hole, patching every hole. The 40-foot hole in the side repainted and looked brand new so they they brought her back to the United States and within a year she was decommissioned a year later and sold for scrap and so totally destroyed no evidence exactly they made it look brand new

have another question here all right my name is faith tarbert i'm here with my husband nathan we're actually from liberty lake washington and my question is i i heard a lot of the stories and um the recounting talking about um the moment where you felt like um the lord was holding the ship up or there was different recounting of praying and that kind of stuff. So I'm just wondering how the experience impacted your faith both then and since then in all these years, and then being here tonight and feeling like you have some recognition. Yeah, when did you realize that your faith was being tested on the ship?

Because we saw that all throughout there. Yeah. The ordeal, okay, this was the beginning of a 53-year-old ordeal. We have to ask ourselves, why were we spared? And the question, the answer that I receive is that we were spared by the Lord for a purpose. So spiritually, Spiritually, it has strengthened us, strengthened me, okay, to do whatever I can to get the word out, to tell my fellow Americans what really happened. Because the liberty story represents many levels that needs to be addressed to set this country back to where it should be. Okay, Artie, thank you. Here's one for you guys. Has anybody tried to contact President

Trump about what happened? As a matter of fact, within the past eight months or ten months, I've contacted President Trump three times. And as of today, I've still not heard from President Trump. However, the last letter that Phil and I co-authored and sent to him. We sent it registered mail. I did get a receipt back from someone from the White House indicating that it made it that far. But there's no indication that he or someone close to him on his staff read it.

So, you know, I don't know if we'll ever get any answers from the White House or not. Okay, great. Doc's got another question up there. Doc? Yes, sir. Hi. John Black here with my wife, Barbara. And it was mentioned that you picked up a target, a Russian ship.

The Russians have been in the news a lot for different things. So was there anybody, like the Russians, could they have observed this attack? And what happened to that target, I mean, that ship that was following you all. When we entered into the Mediterranean, apparently Israel had sent out a message to the entire Mediterranean fleet to keep all international ships a minimum of a hundred nautical miles off the coast because they were at war that was a message that never got to the USS Liberty even though we had embarked eight days before or six days before so the Russian ship that had been shadowing us earlier was far enough away from us that, no, they could not have been able to monitor, you know, at close range what was happening to us during that time.

Okay, here's one also. How did the attack, if it did, change your patriotism for America? If it did, Phil Turdy. Yeah, I'll answer that. And I think I'll speak for myself, but I think I speak for my fellow shipmates too. I don't hate America. I love America, as we all do. But when you make a mistake, you know, if you do a crime, you've got to pay the time. And if America would fess up, if they would fess up, it would do a lot of healing, not just for us, but it would solve many, many problems in the Middle East. That's my opinion. But as far as America goes, I'm a proud American.

I love this country, and I would do anything for it. I don't like what they do, but patriotism is born in all of us. And I'm glad I served my country. I was proud of that. I'm just proud of the way—I'm not proud of the way we were all treated. Okay, let's get one more in. Phil, thank you. That was a great answer.

You know, if we didn't love this country, why would we have stood for 53 years with the truth? Because we love your family and our family. We love this country, and we've proved it. It's not rhetoric. It's not anything that we can't back up because we've done it. You just saw a segment of part one of Sacrificing Liberty. You can watch the entire four hours uninterrupted at SacrificingLiberberty.com. Invite your friends to come over for a film party and tell them that you ordered a film

that they have to see that's going to shock them when they find out what our government did to our servicemen. And not only what our government did, but what a foreign government did to our servicemen and they got away with it. So invite your friends over to your house and show them Sacrificing Liberty.

You saw a segment of the first film. There are four films, four one-hour films in this docuseries. And you also saw the real-time reaction of the survivors who were here with us in 2020 as they watched it on the large screen in our building. Now we're going to show you a segment of Part 2 of Sacrificing Liberty, and you will once again see their reactions to seeing themselves on the screen.

Here we go. They said they made a mistake. It was an accidental shooting, and our government has accepted that and never really put hard blame on them. And so it was always written off as an accident. The reality of what happened is it was not a mistake and they wanted to sink us. And what does that mean to this country? How did they know how to hit all those antennas at one time that quick? It was because they had a plan for hours and hours, maybe days. It wasn't an accident. You don't send aircraft out and then torpedo boats out and then armed helicopters out. That's not an accident. That's a planned attack.

The aircraft were sent to make us incommunicados. We couldn't send an SOS out. Torpedo boats were sent to sink us. And helicopters were sent to pick off survivors so there'd be no choice. It was a perfectly executed military operation. The Israelis had run anywhere from 9 to 13 reconnaissance missions on us in the morning. And they were instructed clearly what to hit. Why would they take all those photographs? Number one, our flag was up. Okay, so that's on all their films because they're filming the whole ship. But if you're coming that many times, to me, you're going out there to get every piece of inch on that ship to go back into the war room in Tel Aviv and have Mushi Diane say, OK, this, this, this, and this, and this.

They got the first people they wanted to kill with the anti-personnel weapons when they started the first strafe. So then they shot the three-inch cannons into the side of our ship, and that shrapnel blew everybody to pieces. So once you got in, you were probably less safe there because they were going to shoot that full of holes to get the shrapnel to kill you. Less than two seconds had taken out all our communication capability. I was there. I witnessed it. My shipmates witnessed it. In less than two seconds, it had taken out all our communication capability.

I was there. I witnessed it. My shipmates witnessed it. There wasn't anything close to an accident or accidental because we had everything there to say we were an American ship. We wear little white hats. Okay, we have flags. We have markings on the side of our ship. Every person in a war room knows how to identify every ship there is on the seas. Even we have on tape a pilot saying it's an American ship. נבוס כל הזמן רגע, מדמה על משהו עולה מרואה, איך שומע?

שים לב, הסימון של ההודיעה זה צ'ארלי טאפו רומיו חמש שים לב עולה, צ'ארלי טאפו רומיו חמש אין שום דבר צ'ארלי סנטר מורי אין שום דבר אנחנו מודפק אותה יורד בנפלם נבוס כל הזמן.

‫רגע, מדווה על משהו. ‫הונחם מראה על, איך שמע, ‫צים ליר. ‫הנחם מרצות, ‫מקצועות. ‫ג'ופי, שוב לבעלה. ‫תדעים מאזוריה, ‫תזהר מעט על המשלה. ‫הנחם מודפק אותך. ‫יורד בנפלם נבוס כל הזמן. We are going to the US. We are going to the US. We are going to the US. We are going to the US. We are going to the US.

We are going to the US. We are going to the US. We are going to the US. Around 12 o'clock I decided to order three MTBs, Motor Torpedo Boats, from the port of Ashdod. Are you sure you can't see any flag? Are you sure you can't see any kind of an identification? And all the words came back, no.

The time now is 14.12 and he says, I see CTR-5. And the minute we hear that, the Air Force stops all operations and says all our aircraft, all our attack aircraft, please stop, I must say that at that point in time, in my mind, it was an American ship. I told him, I remember because I used the word, do not execute Teyshafar, that was our code. There are some doubts about identification. And then what happened? That's the one I didn't get. That information, that order, that was, did not reach the commanding officer on the bridge, whereas you launch the torpedoes. We reported again that we are positive that this is an enemy ship,

and the recognition of Al-Qatir is definite and then we get a permission. At about the range of a thousand yards or a little bit more than a thousand yards, I ordered to prepare the torpedoes and ordered that all commanders will take the action of firing torpedoes. The objective of the attack on Liberty on June 8, 1967, was to sink the ship, kill all survivors, blame it on the Egyptians, so President Johnson could enter the war with Israel against Egypt. That's the way it looks to me. Whatever we have now with the Arabs is to the United States of America. We don't have anything now between us and the Arabs

which is not to the United States of America, not true for Washington. The way to Cairo, the way to Damascus, the way to Amman is through Washington now. We wondered why nobody came to the ship, whether it was a plane or anything, but nothing. So we sat dead in the water, 100% abandoned by our country. Definitely was wondering where on earth the United States Navy was with their ship being attacked ruthlessly like it was. Hi, I'm Wilbert Dwayne Knudsen, better known as Bill. I was in VF-33 on the USS America as a fighter pilot,

and I was the ready cap when this incident occurred. We were on USS America, and we were in the Mediterranean. We knew that there was a conflict in the Middle East down there and Israeli Arabs, we knew that they had a conflict going and that's why they moved us over the carrier over to where we were much closer to where the action was. We wanted to make sure that the fleet was taken care of and we have lots of ancillary ships just like the Liberty that are in that area and they need protection. We're prepared to assist in case something went wrong. The Israelis were extremely intelligent people and when they went out to silence Rockstar they knew exactly what they were doing and

they had the weapons that went after the antennas that was the first thing they did. The Israelis knew what the frequencies are on those ships so they had they could tune their missiles to those frequencies so when they fired them they would go on write for that antenna. They were jamming both our distress frequencies and our tactical frequencies. The tactical frequencies is all right, but the international distress frequencies is a violation of international law to jam them,

and the Israelis were jamming them. They took out five of our six HF antennas. They took out the Triscom. They took out every means of communication we had. Once they hit all of our transmitting antennas, our communications, you know, capabilities would have been pretty much negative, which is why getting any antenna up that could get a signal out was absolutely critical for us to get any kind of support. We were actively trying to get a signal out, but couldn't get it through the jamming. There's no question about the fact that the jamming of the Libertyencies was deliberate. Israel was jamming every U.S. and NATO frequency,

including the SOS, the emergency frequencies, which is a war crime in itself. You'd have to know what frequencies we were going to come up on. To know that, you'd have to know that we were an American ship. The radio men realized that every time the jets were attacking in the attack mode, that's when the jamming stopped, and that's how we got the Mayday out. They knew they were doing it because every time they launched rockets, they had to cut it off.

And it was fortuitous that I had one sailor that knew one antenna was operative and one transmitter, and we got the SOS out. Otherwise, I wouldn't be here talking to you today. Incredible. Intense. Gripping. Okay, we're going to hear your questions in a minute, the audience here, but let's go live to our audience out there around the world. Here's a question from Mindy to the veterans. Has the process of retelling the story several times played a significant role in helping you to heal from trauma?

Do you have any more peace in your spirit? And if so, when? Who wants to try to tackle that? I'm going to let this go tonight. I've never let it go before. I've watched these guys talk about what they saw with their own eyes. And I may have to get up from this table when I'm done. They saw the blood. They saw the body parts. As a petty officer in charge of the body recovery, Ernie Gallo stood beside me and asked me how I could do what I was doing.

And years later, I would never tell anybody what I saw because I didn't want to hurt the families. I'm going to get this out as quick as I can. I went to a trauma doctor several times, and finally she told me, because I couldn't remember ever doing it, I couldn't remember what I saw, and it bothered me. Phil Turney said he couldn't stand the smell down there. I never smelled nothing. I'm sitting here tonight and I'm telling you,

I don't remember what I saw. I don't remember what I saw. I don't remember doing it. And it's done because of the power of God. From the power of God. Amen. Thank you, Ronald. Appreciate that. Thank you, Larry.

I was also on that body recovery team with Ron. And as his position as a leading petty officer for that, I wanted to go down on the first recovery team because my best friend, Robert Eisenberg, was not on any of the mustering lists that we had. So I didn't know what happened to him. I didn't know where he was. He could have been in any one of the casualty collection stations. But I needed to find out and Bob's body was the third body that I recovered coming out of there and so after I finished that that was pretty

pretty painful for me but I also wanted to be able to tell his family exactly what happened, because he died instantly. He was in the processing and reporting center where the torpedo was right next to the comm center when it entered, and it blew the walls out, the bulkheads out between the two rooms. And a piece of shrapnel caught him right in the chest. So typically when a service member dies in action, the military organization has a team of two or three service members go to the home and present the widow or the mother and father with a flag similar to the ceremony today but I wanted to be able to tell his mom and dad and his sister a little more about this because

Robert was due to get out of the service in August. He had done his four years in the Navy, and his life was just about to begin, and he didn't have the chance. So unfortunately, to answer the question, I suppressed all of my hard feelings about our government and anything else because I became kind of a workaholic just to try and forget everything that happened back then. And an earlier question today was, what feelings do we as a crew have regarding that incident every one of us every single one of us here every one of them back home are probably suffering to some degree with post-traumatic stress you just don't know it until it's been diagnosed. And I stayed in the Navy for 21 years trying to get answers, and I didn't.

But it is helping. It is helping to answer the question. Every time we have a session like this it makes it a little bit easier for me the first time it happened I wouldn't have got through it without breaking down and you know I was able to get through it today so there are thank God it is that is therapeutic absolutely Thank You Larry let's um question from Carlos in Central Texas. Were you able to forgive the Israelis or Americans who were involved in the attack, and how were you able

to do that? Was there a particular passage of scripture or a word you heard that helped you heal? heal. Phil Turney. Yeah, first I want to say about the CTs, what they endured. And, you know, these guys, they did not leave their duty stations. When a torpedo's coming and they're below the waterline

on the starboard side and they didn't leave their stations like rats running from a ship. They did their duty for their country and themselves, and how any of them got out, I don't have a clue. What was the other question? I'm sorry. Well, was there a particular scripture that helps you deal with what happened, Phil? Yes. Ron Kukul helped me out with that, with a prayer.

And we repeated it, and I got some solace out of that. But I don't blame the Navy for not coming and helping us. They were ordered not to. The higher-ups did it. But, yeah, I had some healing. But I don't know if I'll ever heal, but this is good, around my shipmates they're all brave men great men i'm proud of them and now ron what uh what was that scripture by the way it doesn't come to mind right now i know it's there but doesn't come to mind i just want to say that phil and I have been pretty close over the years.

Phil being an engineer and me being a CT, we've held together pretty good. And I remember, and I hope the whole world hears this, I remember talking to Phil when I was working for the VA hospital in Sheridan, Wyoming. I called him one day and I was talking to him from the auditorium. And I had a chance to lead him to the Lord. He changed. He changed. It took some time. He's not the same Phil Turney he used to be.

And we worked together for a lot of years. And I just want to add one thing about not being able to remember what I did. I've asked a lot of doctors and the last, anything that came close to what makes any sense is, I said, why can't I remember doing this and she said because the brain will not record anything that horrific so if you guys can talk about this the blood you see the parts you see thank God you can because I can't thank you for that we have a comment from Linda Oh who says you guys may not think you were brave, however, you all are heroes. Let's hear a round of applause for our veterans here.

Thank you. Any questions from our audience here? Anybody want to ask the veterans a question or two? Thank you. What's your name, sir? I'm Gary Kahn, and I'm from Washington Open Door Baptist Church. What puzzled me, this is from the last movie, and it seemed that the Israelis were just on your doorstep. They were ready to set foot down on the deck. And oddly enough, you couldn't get your small arms out of the locker.

And they were armed to the teeth, and they were probably going to do some hand-to-hand fighting or gunfighting on the deck, and then get to the bottom and scuttle the ship. But what stopped them? I don't know. There was that exchange of mutual belligerence. But what stopped them? I don't know there was that exchange of mutual belligerence, but what stopped them? It's just amazing to me.

Thanks, Jerry. What was that, Ronald? I probably never stopped being able to talk about it. Once you've seen it, you never can stop talking. To look Satan in the eye and live to tell about it and realize that you didn't do anything. God did it all. And I've been saying this for years.

Every one of these guys knows what I have. It was divine intervention, and it's the only reason we're here tonight. Let's talk to Meg from Florida. This is a question from her. Let's go back online. Do the Liberty survivors know or suspect that the ship's captain had foreknowledge

of the ship's captain had foreknowledge of the ship's attack. I was going to say something about your comment, sir, back here, in that when the attack was over and we were all up on the front part of the deck, it came out of surviving the torpedo. I'll give you a real quick story I have my friend Porky in front of me We had gotten out Me and Kavanaugh And we get out of this hole where the torpedo

I'm going to throw a little humor in here But we get out of the hole And come out And all this black smoke and this smell And everything is there, and Porky says, chemical attack, chemical attack. And I says, oh, man, I just survived coming out of this hole. Now I'm going to die a slow death up here

with some kind of mustard gas or something or whatever. But to move on and get up on the deck and all the things that are happening, we're trying to find people and the fires are going on, the captain's asking people to come up on the bridge. That helicopter came over and it's hanging over the front of the ship and looking up on the bridge and their 50 calibers are hanging out and we're all saying, okay, just finish me. Just get this over with and finish me. I mean, goodness, you talk about fear, okay?

But I think they were there because they threw over a bag with an orange in it and with a little note in it that says, have you casualties? And that bag was passed up on the bridge, and the captain, I think he flipped him the bird, and then they left. So I don't think their intent at that point was other than they had done all they could do at that time. And they were trying to because you got to think about this. Somebody caught those planes coming to help us and they got turned back for some reason. Because Mush Dan probably picks it up on his radar and says oh man we got caught and the planes turned back we don't know that okay then he probably sent out the order go see if they're okay something like that because they

knew they'd been caught so this is all speculative but we were there that's what we saw that's what we all agree with uh with that hello to add to that um that the boat didn't sink they obviously had intentions to sink the boat they hit it with a torpedo they tried and then they tried to shoot it up hit the boiler they They tried to sink the boat When they got the signal out, it was an open signal the signal reached all the way to vietnam Egypt a lot of people heard the signal go out in open channels So it was either hurry up and get the boat sunk or we got to come up with another plan It was an accident and then when the helicopter came

They that's when they kind of threw that thing out to say hey, we were just here to help we got to come up with another plan, it was an accident. And then when the helicopter came, that's when they kind of threw that thing out to say, hey, we were just here to help. It was friendly fire. So a lot of these questions are important because they're going to be answered in part three and part four. So yeah, there's a reason why there's part three and part four, because there's a lot of answers, questions that need answers. And up to this date, the reason we don't have concrete evidence is because they kept it silent. They kept these men, their stories silent. But to answer that question, the signal got out to so many people heard it. But we do know there was a recall of planes that could have came to their assistance. That's a fact. Let's continue. Meg from Florida, by the way, asks, do any of you guys believe that the ship's captain was tipped off about that attack? Okay, great. Let's take another

one. No, I'm sorry. Okay, great. Here's two questions from a Navy man in our live chat. How many of you never saw a ship again? Did you get out after your tour of duty? Yeah. What was the question again, please? Did you ever get back in the service or did you leave after the attack? Well, I was one of the most seriously injured, so I ended up getting medically discharged a month before my enlistment was up. But Phil wants me to mention the fact that I wasn't part of the Admiral Kidd situation

where he told these guys what he told them. Myself, I went from the Liberty to the America, from America to Naples, Italy, the hospital there, stayed there a month and a half, two months. Then I was transferred to Germany at the Army Hospital. And when I got there, they put me in a ward with about 15-20 men and within two minutes they came and put me on a gurney brought me gave me a private room an officer came up to me and ordered me that your name is Smith and if anybody ever asked you about the liberty you tell them you know nothing so So that was my, where I started realizing there was a cover-up.

But, yeah, no, I had planned on making a career out of the Navy. And I'm in the hospital bed in Chelsea Naval Hospital in Massachusetts. And I'm writing down the things I'm going to do to re-up. Now, I'm 100% disabled for five years. But I loved the Navy, and I was going to stay in. But they medically discharged me. I didn't have a choice. Great, Mickey. Thank you. Okay. We're going to go back to our audience. We have some questions here. Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry. Finish up. I just wanted to say one more thing. I,

I didn't, I didn't want to forget the engineers aboard the ship. Uh, Gary Brummett, Jim Smith, on and on and on, all good men. And we all worked together that day, engineers, CTs, everybody. And it brought us all closer together, even more so now than any time that I can recall. So I just wanted to get that in. The engineers did a good job, and I'm proud of them all as I am the CTs. They're all great men. Thank you, Phil. Hey, Doc's got one over there. Doc. Yes, sir. Veteran, 3rd U.S. Infantry Regiment, Old Guard. First of all, thank you.

I know this isn't easy really for anybody here. This is a difficult question, but there's a lot of soldiers that are out there watching today probably that have probably been involved in a cover-up. there's a lot of soldiers that are out there watching today, probably, that have probably been involved in a cover-up such as yourselves. What advice can you give to them? Great question. That's a terrific question.

I'm probably not the one that should be answering it, but it's because I did 43 years with the National Security Agency. Twenty-one is a Navy person, and 22 is a defense contractor. So when you heard Dave Lewis lewis talk about his high clearances i probably had as many if not more um because of the kind of work we did and a lot of the clearances that i have or had you sign for life and so if I heard of a cover-up knowing what I know now I'd blow the whistle and I'm getting chills telling you that but that's why we're here today we're here to tell the truth and you know I think that's why we're we're still alive the story had to out. We've tried for 53 years going through channels to get the

truth told, and it hasn't been. So if they want to put me in Leavenworth, they know where I'm at. And I'm sorry, honey, but I might not be coming home tonight. So you're welcome. Okay. And Mickey wants to follow up to that, Larry. Thank you for that. I agree with everything that Larry said, but I also think that it's very important that anybody that's been in the military and you've been into situations similar to us the biggest thing that's helped me is my support groups that i've gotten through the the va now they used to be known as vietnam vet centers back in those days when i started but now i think the va has something to do with them but get into the group where he can talk to other

military people that have been through what they've been through. And it's the best thing that's happened to me. This has been great. This has helped me a lot after I got through the group sessions. Okay, this is from Navy Man. He says, how did everyone receive their medals and awards? Did the Navy mail them to you or were you awarded your medals another way?

Bob Scarborough wants to tackle that. Bob, thank you. It was interesting. After the attack, I was immediately sent to Bremerhaven, Germany, at a station. And I think Larry also was included in this. We were both there.

And I think there were seven or eight of us that received our Purple Hearts in a private ceremony in the captain's office with a photographer. It wasn't pinned on my chest, it was in a box. Here, kid. It was disgusting. Thank you, Bob. All right, we have three questions

from John Kamakawa from Bellevue, Washington. First, when you notified the fleet that you were being attacked, did the Navy tell you that help was on the way? And how long did it take, did they say it would take? And did they notify you when it was recalled? So first of all, how long did it take? We've heard this in the video, it took 17 to 18 hours to get any sign of help. But nobody communicated with us any. First of all, we only had one means of communication that Terry Hebertier made possible to get a message out under attack, believed to be Arabs, and got one message back, help us on the way, and then we sat there dead in the water.

So there was no way for us to get any communication until sunrise the next morning when Bob said he saw the silhouette of the ship coming over, and there was the Davis. So that was it, nothing else. Okay, Mo, thank you. We want to take one more question from our audience does anybody a question for our vets Jake Rowden Bush and my wife Roberta from the Miami area and the video showed that the ship limped back to port after the attack uh i was wondering

were additional crew personnel put on board were additional supplies put on board from what source if so okay larry bowen thank you uh yeah and when we pulled into rota, Spain, we picked up, I think it was six total people, three civilians and three Marines. And we also took on additional stores or supplies because we didn't know how long we were going to be over there. We didn't realize it was going to be a six-day war. It could have been a two-day war or longer. So, yes, to both of your questions. Okay, that ends our Q&A session. We want to give a round of applause to the live audience, our folks here in the studio, and to our vets.

Well, I hope you have enjoyed this special presentation of True News. You're watching a repeat of a special night, actually two nights, in August 20th and 21st of the year 2020 when we hosted the members, the survivors of the USS Liberty, the members of the Veteran Association, and they came here to Vero Beach to watch this film for the very first time.

And we had the honor and the privilege of meeting these men. And many of them brought their spouses. And we just had a wonderful time. But the most important thing is that we were in the presence of heroes. Yes. American patriots. And they were American patriots who have not been treated right by the U.S. government, by the Israeli government, and by the news media, and by the historians of this country.

That's right. That's why we made this film. And I encourage you to watch all four parts. You can go to sacrificingliberty.com and stream it immediately, or you can order the DVD set. And a lot of people did both. A lot of people wanted to watch it immediately,

but also have a physical DVD set in their possession. So you can order both. Thank you for watching. Now tomorrow, we're going to, we're going to do the same thing. We're going to show you, uh, clips from part three and part four, plus the reactions of the veterans. God bless. We'll see you tomorrow. God bless you. You have been listening to True News with Rick Wiles. Thank you for listening. To find out more information regarding the broadcast, including prayer and financial support,

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