TRUNEWS with Rick Wiles - USS Liberty Remembered: Part 2

Episode Date: June 9, 2023

Today is Part 2 of our special presentation: The USS Liberty Remembered. We released Sacrificing Liberty in August 2020. To kick off the premier of the 4-part docuseries, we held a private screening for members of the USS Liberty Veterans Association. It was a honor to host the men here for 2 days and give them the respect and appreciation they deserve but never received from the US government. Prior to Sacrificing Liberty, no other film about the USS Liberty was devoted to the recording the words of the men themselves who survived that horrible experience. That’s why Sacrificing Liberty is a film with historical value. There’s nothing like it anywhere. To this day, the US government and news media are still covering up the truth about the attack on the ship. What’s up with secrecy? What is Washington hiding? I’ll let you make your own conclusion after watching the film. You can watch the four one-hour films at SacrificingLiberty.com. The flim series is available for immediate streaming or you can purchase a set of DVDs. Again, the website is SacrificingLiberty.com. Invite your friends to watch it with you. Rick Wiles and Doc Burkhart are here to recall that memorable two-night event in 2020 when the survivors of the USS Liberty came to Vero Beach to see the film. Rick Wiles, Doc Burkhart. Airdate 6/09/23Listen to part one - https://www.spreaker.com/episode/54143801You can partner with us by visiting TruNews.com/donate, calling 1-800-576-2116, or by mail at PO Box 690069 Vero Beach, FL 32969. It’s the Final Day! The day Jesus Christ bursts into our dimension of time, space, and matter. Now available in eBook and audio formats! Order Final Day from Amazon today! https://www.amazon.com/Final-Day-Characteristics-Second-Coming/dp/0578260816/ Apple users, you can down the audio version on Apple Books! https://books.apple.com/us/audiobook/final-day-10-characteristics-of-the-second-coming/id1687129858 The Fauci Elf is a hilarious gift guaranteed to make your friends laugh! Order yours today! https://tru.news/faucielf

You are listening to True News with Rick Wiles. We appreciate you tuning in. To find out more information regarding the broadcast, including prayer and financial support, please visit our website at truenews.com. Our mailing address for all correspondence is True News, P.O. Box 690069, the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. So help us God. Today is part two of our special presentation, The USS Liberty Remembered. We released Sacrificing Liberty in August 2020. This is the DVD set.

To kick off the premiere of the four-part docuseries, we held a private screening for members of the USS Liberty Veterans Association. And it was an honor to host the men here for two days and to give them the respect and appreciation they deserve, but never received from the U.S. government. Prior to Sacrificing Liberty, no other film about the USS Liberty was devoted to the recording of the words of the men themselves who survived that horrible experience. That's why Sacrificing Liberty is a film with historical value. There's nothing like it anywhere. To this day, the U.S. government and the news media are

still covering up the truth about the attack on the ship. What's up with the secrecy? What is Washington hiding? I'll let you make your own conclusion after watching the film. Now, you can watch the four one-hour films at SacrificingLiberty.com. The film series is available for immediate streaming online or you can purchase a set of DVDs. Again, the website is SacrificingLiberty.com.

Invite your friends over to your house to watch the film. Tell them you have a film that is blacklisted. It's banned. People aren't supposed to see and hear what's in this film, Doc. That's right. Tell your friends they need to come over to your home this weekend and watch this film.

It will shock them. And then have a discussion with them and ask them, why has our government covered this up since 1967? These men are still alive. The survivors are still alive and they're not allowed to talk about it. To this day, the survivors are under orders of the U.S. Navy not to talk about the Liberty. Well, Doc Burkhardt is here to help me recall that memorable two-night event in 2020 when the survivors of the Liberty came to vero beach to see the film for

the very first time doc what do you recall about that event what i recall are the private conversations i had with the uss liberty veterans between breaks and you know opportunities to talk before and after and how you just sensed their dedication to their time of service in the military, in the Navy. And these were some of the most genuine, honest men I'd ever encountered in my life. They loved their country. They loved their time of service. But it was obvious that they had struggled for half a century with the suppression that was being put on them by the U.S. government, by the media and everyone else. And yet they've remained steadfast in their love for their country. And they're not bitter.

Right. And they weren't bitter again about america or anything they but obviously there was a cover-up that was in place i would say they were hurt hurt and disappointed that their their their government covered up what happened and then ordered them to be quiet another part of the two-night event is that we had an audience here. And I was surprised at the range of knowledge regarding the USS Liberty. There were some that were very well-informed, but I would say the majority of our audience that was here only had a superficial knowledge of the USS Liberty and some of the events that took place. And I still remember members of the

audience coming up afterwards and saying, this is something, I didn't know all this information. I didn't know what had happened to the story. The story needs to get out. The story needs to be published and put out there. And so anybody that watches it, it changes you. It makes a dramatic impact on you because they peel back the layers of cover-up a little bit at a time. Each testimony of the Liberty veterans and their reactions just revealed a little bit more and a little bit more and a little bit more.

And that's the response I received from our audience members that night, too. They just didn't know how important it was to have the story told. If you want to see an example of propaganda, and we're talking propaganda that's been in place, what, 56 years now? Right. You go online and read about the USS Liberty. The official narrative is there,

just like the official narrative of 9-1-1 and the Kennedy assassination. They got the official narrative. So you can read the official narrative is there, just like the official narrative of 9-1-1 and the Kennedy assassination. They got the official narrative. So you can read the official narrative of what happened in 1967 when Israel attacked the Liberty. You will read it was an accident. It was just an incident. Just an incident. It was a case of mistaken identity israel thought

it was an egyptian ship or something you know they got you can read all this online then watch this film and listen to what the survivors said happened it doesn't match what's online does it yes and the other incredible thing that comes out of this is we were inches away from World War III over this. Oh, yeah. I mean, inches away from World War III, and that's especially in parts three and four

of the Sacrificing Liberty series, they really do a deep dive into that. It appears, Doc, it appears that President Lyndon B. Johnson, who was a hardcore Zionist going back to the 1930s, that LBJ as a congressman in Texas in the 1930s was smuggling guns and rockets to Palestine for a Zionist takeover of Arab Palestine. And he was also smuggling Jews into Texas and giving them fake U.S. passports. That's a historical fact.

What it appears is that Lyndon B. Johnson, as president of the United States, was working secretly with Israel to have a false flag event that would justify nuking Cairo, Egypt. And the liberty didn't go down. They did everything they could to sink that ship so they could have that false flag and that ship wouldn't sink. And a lot of those men wouldn't die and they lived to tell the story and that's why the cover-up continues because if the truth is told you'll find out why the ship was attacked in the first place that's right and if my theory is right they can't let that story be told and it sounds with the testimony of the veterans there it it leads to that conclusion. A lot of circumstantial evidence, and you put it all together, and it says, you know what?

The U.S. government, a very small, very small secretive group in the White House, had a plan for a false flag event that would lead to the United States nuking Egypt so that Israel could then invade Egypt and conquer Egypt. That's my theory on it. Watch the film. Come to your own conclusions. Make up your own mind what you think it was all about, but you won't know until you watch the film.

We are showing you, we showed you yesterday, and we'll show you again today. Yesterday we showed you clips from part one and part two. Today, we're going to show you part three and part four, just segments of the film, plus the reaction of the veterans when they were here with us in August 2020. Here is part three. The basic thing is you want to protect all your fellow Americans. And in the Navy, whatever ship, whatever kind it is, that's what you're there for. You're to protect them and provide cover for them. And we didn't get a chance to do that.

We were called back. When we came back, there was a lot of speculation of who called off for what reason. We knew that our carrier division commander as well as Admiral Martin, because his call sign was used, were the people that called us back. The reason for calling us back were little mysterious to us. We felt that they should have, we should have gone and been able to go down and help them. We didn't understand what the politics were behind us. I mean, when you see your fellow sailors and shipmates with a hole in the side of their ship and the number that were killed, you're pissed off, to put it frankly. You know, you want, what is the reason for this? And I don't think we ever really had a good explanation for that reason. Of the 34 that were killed that day, 28 weren't for me.

I never should have survived. I was less than 10 feet when the torpedo detonated. They told me that one eardrum was completely burnt out and the other was 85% blown out. I was heloed out the next day to the USS America. I was in bed the first two days I was there. They were waiting for my eyes to heal some before they opened them up. When they lanced my eyelids and opened them up, I was told that the Admiral would like to speak to me. I went to his date room and he sat me down. He said, Amanda Lewis, what I'm about to tell you is for your ears only. You are not to tell anyone during my lifetime.

He said, told me he knew it was going to be hushed up and I wasn't to say anything about it, but he had to get it off his chest. Then he proceeded to tell me that they had hardly gotten airborne before Robert McNamara recalled them. I don't know what the hell happened, and I haven't taken time to find out. But there are all of these claims that we said planes, the planes were going out and we turned them around, and that we intentionally allowed the Israelis to sink to liberty. I know nothing about it. Are you familiar with Operation Critic?

President Eisenhower got extremely perturbed when it took three days for critical intelligence to get to him. So he directed the services to institute a Criticom network. If you type the word Critic, C-R-I-T-I-C in the heading, everything worldwide shuts down until that gets to the White House. That was obviously how McNamara knew instantly that we'd launched aircraft. It was reported to Washington that aircraft had been launched and almost instantaneously McNamara recalls him. Admiral Geist said he assumed that

some idiot in Washington thought he was launching nukes to come to the assistance of the Liberty. So he reconfigured a flight of aircraft incapable of carrying nuk, and relaunched them. And immediately Robert McNamara came on again and said, I ordered you to recall the aircraft. And Admiral Geist said he exercised his military prerogative of challenging the order, which means it goes to the next higher echelon. And almost instantly, Lyndon Johnson comes on the phone and says, recall the damned aircraft. I don't care if the ship sinks and all the sailors are killed.

I will not embarrass my ally. That was several hours before he was notified who did it. Which is just further justification that he, the idea that he was behind it all. I hated Lyndon Johnson. I didn't think much of McNamara, but I couldn't believe either of them were capable of that. It was proven they could get away with it once. The Gulf of Tonkin must have come into their minds. The cover-up was to protect a treasonous president. After the Davis and the Massey came alongside, we transited to Malta.

Took us six days and a thousand miles to sail to Malta. The smell was unbelievable. I can smell it right now. There's 25 souls down there getting banged around by seawater. Was the smell of death, stench of rotting bodies in 110 degree water. Typically, when you come back to port after a three or four month cruise, you've got family members and relatives there to greet you. And here's a ship that's just, you know, been brutally attacked. And I would have thought that there would have been some sort of, not necessarily a band to play or something, but somebody there to greet us and congratulate us

for keeping the ship afloat and, you know, saving a lot of our shipmates. But it was the total opposite. There were officers, U.S. Naval officers, manning the lines, which was totally unheard of. You don't have lieutenants and commanders or captains, you know, grabbing the lines, and they're the first ones coming on board. So that immediately told me that, you know, something's going on. The Liberty is still a floating coffin. As she limps here into the harbor of Malta, headed for dry dock. Aside from the nine bodies already flown to America,

22 more bodies are trapped below decks in compartments flooded when struck by an Israeli torpedo. The Liberty is still shrouded in secrecy. Newsmen are not allowed on board. Sailors on board are not allowed to talk to newsmen. Above all, the major mystery, the mystery of why the Israelis attacked the Liberty some 15 miles offshore of Sinai, without warning, without challenge.

Kind of a long process to get her into dry dock. That took at least a day or a day and a half before they got all the water out from under the ship. When we got into dry docks, they put great big timbers on all the sides of the ship to keep it from rocking around. And then it was a flat-bottomed ship. And it sat down on these great big wooden boat holders,

I guess you'd call them. When all that was done, when the ship got there and the water went out of the dock, I wasn't a spy, a spook aboard the ship. So I wasn't allowed to go down into torpedo spaces where it was torpedoed because there was still classified stuff down there and they wanted their own men to do it.

They wanted those of us with the clearances, the top secret crypto clearances to go down and clean up first. When I was in one of the passageways, an officer stopped me in the passageway and said, Kukol, you're going to be in charge of the body recovery down below. And I tried to get out of it. I admit it. I said, I don't want to go down and pick these guys up in pieces. Can't we, when we're getting a draft, can't they assign someone, civilians or whatever, to go down and do this body recovery? He said, no, because first of all, there's classified material down there. And it's you guys that are going to have to go down and recover your own shipmates.

And so an order is an order. I went and did it. The torpedo killed 25 in those classified areas. Primarily our O-Branch staff, our processing and reporting staff, our linguists, and our maintenance people. It absolutely pierced right in perfectly above the deck and imploded. All the explosion happened. That's what blew that massive hole in the side of the ship. If not, there would have been a small hole in the top part.

Come completely in, imploded, just split the ship in half. Took a miracle to hit that I-beam precisely, or we would have gone down. The little hole on top of the ship is where our floor was right there, and that's where all the people, that's where all 25 were killed. Wow, wasn't that great? Let's hear it for our veterans. I'm Kerry Kinsey. We're going to do another question and answer session and get ready, studio audience, with your questions. And also, we have some questions from around the world as well.

Let's do this one first. From Australia, Michael Michael says if you had someone in the military who was your son or daughter knowing what you know about the government Phil would you encourage them to join the service or not well that's that's a very good question and and I think it's very appropriate you ask that. Yes, I did encourage my sons to go into the military. One of them fought in Iraq in the United States Army. My other one is a United States Navy special ops.

I won't go into that. But I did that for a reason. I didn't trust my country, but I love my country. And I asked my sons, what do you want to do? And they said, Dad, I want to serve like you did. And is that the right thing to do? I don't know, because my older son has got a lot of problems from Iraq and Afghanistan. And it's a terrible, terrible feeling for me and my dear wife, Lisa. It's a burden.

But he did tell me, he says, Dad, he says, it's probably the best thing I ever did was went in the military. It gave me discipline and so on and so forth, but he understands the pain and the anger and the angst of all men that serve, but he says, Dad, I don't understand the pain and anger you have that you've had all your life, and now I do because you were ignored, your shipmates were ignored by our government, and that was the hardest thing in the world for him to admit and to say, but he finally admitted it, and it was refreshing to know that he finally knew what it took to be in battle. Okay, thanks a lot.

All right, we have another question right here. USS Liberty vets from a fellow crew member who could not be here today, Ron Hurst, who was 19 when the attack happened and lost his best friend that day, Lawrence Hayden. He sends his regards to you heroes. So what do you have to, would you like to react to that? Well, it's hard to react to that except, is my mic on? It's hard to react to that, but I can't tell you how we feel about you wanting to be a part of this and being out there and hearing this. And Lawrence left this world as a true hero.

And we're proud that we had the honor of knowing him and rest in peace. All right. Thank you. Here's another one. What do you think about what Dave Lewis and George Gold had said about Captain McGonigal taking a bribe that is to falsify the record? That's similar to a question we had last night regarding if someone asked you to take, you know, a bribe and do something like covering up as they were doing, how would you react? And I responded yesterday like I'm going to respond now, and I would blow the whistle on them. And I think that it's a personal thing, but it's also my belief, my religious belief.

It will tell the truth. And so, I mean, that's all I can say. Okay, Larry, thank you. Debbie asks, was the U.S. Social Liberty attacked relentlessly because it was intercepted intelligence from Israel that they did not want the United States to know? Who thinks that might be the case? In other words, was there intelligence that was intercepted that...

The direct answer is yes. Again, that wasn't supposed to be our purpose over there. We were over there to be, you know, the cover was that we were going to assist our embassy with their communications and evacuation of personnel, but we were also over there to monitor what was going on in the Six-Day War, who was starting it, and who was winning. And we knew what was going on.

And they were monitoring our communications, so they knew that we knew they started it. Right. Just knowing that day that we or going over there too, had we been going for the reason of picking up people and doing things over there, then there's no question we would have had an escort. We asked for escorts to be with us, and we were certainly denied that. You heard Commander Lewis ask for that, and we had our captain ask for that, and so, no, there's no question we were sent there directly. It appears to be, as anybody watches this, to be put in harm's way. Thank you, Mo. Here's another one. This is Elina. She wants to know, what drives the veterans to share their story over and over again,

even when there's so much pain involved? That's a pretty easy one to answer for me. It comes down to how much do you love your country? How much do you believe in what put this country together, what made it what it was? I know what drove me. Family. Family drove me more than anything. I wanted your kids and my kids to have what I had in the 40s and 50s and 60s.

And the only way I knew to keep it alive was to keep telling the truth over and over and over again. And I wish I could drive it home tonight to the people watching that we love this country. I can't say it strongly enough. If we didn't love it, we wouldn't be around here for 53 plus years with the truth that could turn this nation around overnight if they do it. Great. Thank you. Here's another one. Elena also asked what the veterans... Okay, I'm sorry.

Rodney? Mine is the... I've never shared this with anyone. But I need to get rid of it. Thank you, sir. Elena also asked what the veterans want the audience to take away from what you guys are saying tonight. Can I stand for this? Yes, sir.

I want it to stand for all of America. And I also want it to to stand and what Ron said. Yeah, we love our country. That doesn't mean we love our leaders, but we love our country. And what's gone on here with this wonderful audience and the audience you have all around the world, and I'm sick and tired of the abuse that true news is getting for telling the truth. It makes me sick. It's wrong. Now, we're not liars.

They're the liars, and if we weren't telling the truth, why didn't they get us in front of Congress a long time ago? There's no reason for you, Rick, Susan, Matt, Ed, any of you that work here, to be condemned for telling the truth. Now, I'll go in front of Congress. I'll go in front of the president. I've asked and asked and asked, as we all have. So, dude, how dare you try to discredit True News for telling the truth,

and especially about the USS Liberty story. We all don't have to agree on everything, but this story here is history, and we're living history. You're history. We're all history. And God bless you, all of you, Matt, Rick, Susan, everybody, Ed, Ed's mother. God bless you all, and God bless True News. And I'll tell you what, folks, if you believe in the truth,

you donate to True News right now, and you do it tonight, and you do it tomorrow, and you do the next day. But support this film. Go to True News right now. Great. Thank you, Phil. Thank you, Phil. Well said. Thank you. Kate asks, why was no one charged under the Nuremberg Code, such as the Admiral, for calling back support aircraft and failing failing to respond to a distress signal. Ernie Gallo has a comment.

It all goes back to the Navy Court of Inquiry. When you join the military, you're made aware of the Uniform Code of Military Justice, which is the Bible as far as how you're supposed to behave and also how you can determine if an order is a bad order. The Navy Court of Inquiry was a sham. It was the foundation to prevent the crew from ever seeing justice through the legal system in the Navy or the military, period. The Navy slam-dunked the crew to prevent us from ever seeking justice.

And in 2005, we did submit a war crimes report with the details of what the Israelis did, machine-gunning our life rafts, shooting at our stretcher bears, and the fact that they attacked us in international waters. And our requests went nowhere because they referred back to the Navy Court of Inquiry, which exonerated the Israelis. Okay, Ernie, thank you. Let's get another one here. This is from a former Marine.

Would you advise anyone, son or daughter? We already talked about that, to join the service. And, of course, you guys talked about that. Let's move another one here. Dave asks if it's true that a submarine named the USS Amberjack was shadowing the Liberty, and if that is true, did the Navy protocol call for a spy ship? This is a tough one for me because I'm not, this is not my words. This is words from another,

another person. I got a telephone call many, many years ago from a crew member of the Amberjack. I was just going up the, up the hill to work at the VA hospital. My phone rang just before Christmas time. And this crew member, as he said he was an Amberjack crew member, said to me, and again, these are not my words. These are his words. He was crying. It was just before Christmas. He said, Ron, I want you to know that we were so close by we could hear the men screaming. And he said a little bit more than that, but I think at the time he was just more concerned about, I guess,

being close to Christmas and stuff like that, and he wanted to unload it, and he unloaded it by just saying that. And whether there's proof how close I were or not, there's no proof that I know of. But I'm just telling you what this phone call was comprised of. And I got to tell you, it really shocked me, really shocked me to the high heavens. I don't know if I'm shocking anybody in the world here tonight about this, but that's the phone call I got. Thank you, Ronald. Larry and Ernie, across your careers in the NSA and the CIA, did you ever hear or see information about Israel's Damona nuclear facility

and proof that Israel has nuclear weapons? Yes. Yes. No comment. All right. This is from Big Mama in Kentucky. She asks, can the government take away your retirement, guys? They can do anything they want. So there's no question.

If they don't want me to have my benefits, they'll take them. All right. One final question, Doc. Manny asked, do you risk retribution from the U.S. government for talking about this? Gentlemen. I don't think any of us here care to hell with them, as far as I'm concerned. We're here to get the truth out, and if whatever they want to do to us, have at it, just like Larry said yesterday, hey, I'll be the first in line for 11 worth,

well, I'll get in the back, but no, it's just one of those deals that, no, they can do what they want to, and if they want to persecute us or call us liars, but we're not liars, where's, listen, I want to say one more thing. I was at the State Department with Joe Lentini. They were having a symposium. There were four Jews on the panel and one other fellow that wrote a book, Body of Secrets, James Bamford, and he said, there's two survivors here, Phil and Joe. They should be up here, not me. When we got up to the microphone, Joe did say, because of Judge Crystal, his book,

I'm not a friend of yours, we're an acquaintance. And I got to get up, and the whole thing was cut down. They shut it down. Our own State Department listened to the Zionist state putting their thumb on the scale instead of listening to survivors try to tell the truth. Now, this is in our country. It's not in the Mediterranean 12.5 miles off to Sinai. And they're still doing it.

They did it then. They're still doing it. And they're going to keep on getting by with it until true news makes it available to the world. Thank you, Phil. And, Doc, I believe we have a question from our studio audience, right? Let's start here. Hi there. I'm Jerry Kahn from Linwood, Washington.

So as the Liberty was called back to Spain and closed up, it seems to me so odd that the original crew, through some kind of repugnant compartmentalization, had to clean up the carnage. And even the sailors had to sail back with that original vessel. And I guess, is that normal Navy protocol that you have to clean up your dead comrades, or was that just because of strict, repugnant compartmentalization?

Larry? The primary reason for that was because we held the highest clearances, and the 25 people that were in that you know compartment were the same type personnel so all the equipment in there was classified all the documentation was classified and those were our shipmates that you know we had to recover the body parts and pieces that you know ron was responsible for and and those of us on the recovery team were responsible for we couldn't let anyone else go in there we couldn't even let the dock personnel start any repairs on the ship until we had taken you know every piece of material out of there or covered everything up so that

they could, you know, start their repairs. And while they were doing that, we were still cleaning up and taking bags and bags and bags of stuff out. So I would say normally under other circumstances, if it wasn't classified, they could have used any personnel. Okay. Thank you, Larry. We have another one up here. Roy Harris. How many total souls are still alive? I know you gang here, but how many are still alive, and is there any type of communication that you feel like you have a corporate type of group,

an association of any kind? Thank you. So I think right now, taking the 34 that were killed and then of 294 crew members, on our count list we have right now, I think, around 107 to 110 that have passed, including the 34 that we lost. And yes, we do have a USS Liberty Veterans Association that Phil Turney was responsible years ago with a couple shipmates a lot of years ago putting together and we've held this together. We do quarterly newsletters. We work with a lot of supporters around the country who give donations and so forth and most importantly we are self-run. We We have three of our board members here right now,

former presidents and our president here with us at the Liberty Veterans Association. And I'll go ahead and say it, www.usslibertyveterans.org. So you go to that site. If you forget that or don't get it written down, just Google USS Liberty, and it'll pop up and show that. And go on that site, and you get to that site. There's little tabs. You got our newsletters. More importantly, you got the gallery that backs up of all the things that are here. You have so much information on there.

And we encourage you, if you have an interest to become a part of this, it's $20 a year. But we'll gladly take a lot more than that if you want to give. But I'm just simply saying that's a powerful way for you to stay connected to us, and we appreciate your support. All right. Thank you, Mo. We have another one back here, Doc. Thank you. Thank you, Dennis Kelly from Michigan. With the presentation and the advent of this movie coming out, do you foresee or is it possible that this could wind up in front of Congress?

And is there any statute of limitations on the crimes that have been committed here? Is this a possibility if this catches on and enough of this gets out there? Is this a possibility? Ernie, you anything like that. Please. Yes. The information that we have, we've accumulated over the years, I believe would stand up in a court of law. giving a subpoena to testifying in Congress and tell our story and present that information. I think we'd be able to slam dunk our government as to the fact that we're telling the truth. Okay, thank you. We have a...

Yeah, I'm sorry, Phil, you want to add to that? Thank you. Ernie, you said that exactly the way it should be. But the only statute of limitations we have right now is that if Israel murders American sailors in the high seas, and our government goes along with covering it up, yeah, there's a statute. They put their thumbs on the scale.

They put their thumbs on the congressmen. They're all bought and paid for political whores, in my view. Okay, thank you. We have a question right here. I'm Gwen Miller from Clemson, South Carolina. When the ship was attacked and your captain declared it a mayday by law, any other ship had to come and help them, and Russia offered to help. Why did your captain not accept the help from the Russian ship? I don't think I have or anybody here probably has the authority

to really try to answer that, except that as you were watching this thing, you heard me talk about the planes headed to Cairo. You heard Commander Lewis talk about six minutes from a nuclear potential holocaust there that Russia was not our friend. And again, we weren't sure of any details at that point of who really did it or whatever, except for the torpedo boats. But a lot of the crew didn't know still at that point.

And so I don't think any of us really know much about that conversation if it happened or how it was rejected. But I can tell you that we rejected help on our plane too when the helicopters hung over and threw the bag with the orange on it and says, do you have casualties? We flipped them the bird and told them to leave. So, I mean, it's just what we did. So nobody's experienced anything like what we went through, including our captain, whether you heard some challenges this evening that I was not aware of.

But I just don't feel we were in a position to let somebody we didn't know or whatever, because understand again, we had the highest sophisticated ship on the high seas. There were five of those. Today, our world's full of satellites through things that do all the things that we were charged with doing on the whole globe with our five ships, which the Pueblo was captured and all that too. So we were it. I mean, we were it for everything. And we certainly weren't going to let a russians come on possibly commandeer us okay and get into our spaces so i hope i think maybe i figured it out myself just here talking about it so all right mo thank you here's a great question right here i've peeked at it piece four usa asks what are your thoughts about thoughts about Israeli dual nationals serving in our government,

especially in the State Department, which dictates foreign policy? Larry Bowen. That's a tough one, I guess, because having them over here with a close relationship that we have with Israel, and they not only work in the State Department, but they also work in some of our intelligence organizations like the NSA and the CIA. My personal feeling is that, and I think I mentioned it last night, it was a Ronald Reagan quote, keep your friends close and your enemies closer. Maybe they feel by having them that close they can watch them, but at the same time they're giving them access to the cookie jar.

So I'm opposed to it. I don't think it's a smart move, honestly. Larry, thank you. Veterans, thank you for your candor. Oh, I'm sorry. Mickey would like to add to that. Well, when we joined the Navy, we took an oath to stand for this country, and not only this country.

If you have somebody in the Senate or any official position, and they have two citizenships, which one are they going to go for? I don't think that should be allowed. They can take an oath to protect this country, this country only. Great. The Bible says no man can serve two masters. That should be enough. Thank you, Ronan. Thank you, veterans. Doc, back to you. Well, you're watching a special presentation here on True News of the story of sacrificing liberty. And this is the four-part docuseries that we produced back in 2020.

And also the event that took place August 20th and 21st in 2020, where we invited the USS Liberty veterans here to our church in Vero Beach, Florida. We honored them. We gave them an opportunity for them to fellowship with one another, to share memories with one another, but also to share their memories, recollections and reactions with the True News audience as well.

Now, we want to encourage you that if you've never had the opportunity to watch Sacrifice and Liberty, that you do so by going to SacrificeandLiberty.com. You see that website right on the screen there. And you can watch the four-part docuseries online. You can share it with your friends, invite them over, watch the docuseries together, then talk about it, express your reactions to it. If that isn't your kind of thing, streaming isn't your kind of thing, we also have DVDs available. And the DVDs are available on the website as well, sacrificeandliberty.com, so just go there. The story of the USS Liberty is more intriguing and more deep than any spy novel that's been written out there.

And you're going to hear the USS Liberty veterans, in their own words, tell the story of what happened that faithful day June 8th 1967 how we were inches away from going into nuclear war now we're going to share our fourth segment of the event that we took place here at the end back in 2020 where we had the opportunity to screen the Sacrificing Liberty series to the veterans of the ship itself and also get their reaction. And so we're going to share part four here with you, a small clip, and also the reactions as well. One thing, Doc, before we go into part four, I want to emphasize that some of these brave patriots who appear in this film are no longer with us. They've passed away. And had we not recorded their stories, their, that, that, that brother's gone.

This brother's gone. It, it, it really, um, has an impact on you because, you know, we captured their true story. They had an opportunity for the first time in their lives to get out of their heart. The heaviness, everything that they had been carrying for over a half of a century, they finally got to release it. Some of these men, when they recorded these interviews, had not even told their wives and children. That's right. Yes. They'd never told because they were under a command of secrecy from the U.S. Navy. They never told their wives and children. So this was a powerful thing for these men to open up and speak it on camera. But there was something in them like, we have to do it. We've got to say these things.

Now, part four of the docuseries is what ties the whole story together and really emphasizes the political intrigue that was taking place in Jerusalem, or rather in Tel Aviv and in Washington, D.C. at the highest levels of trying to create a cover-up when they realized that the liberty would not sink and the things that went into action as a result of that. The plan did not go as planned, and so they had to go to a backup plan. So you're going to see a small clip from

part four and then additional reactions from USS Liberty veterans here, and then we'll be back with some closing remarks. The thing about the Liberty story, and when you investigate all the different components of it, and it's not just the actual attack, it's to do with what was going on in Israel before, what was going on in America before, and so on. You put all these bits of information together, and, you know, I was trained originally as a physicist,

so basically you come up with a hypothesis. You know, you come up with the best guess you can come up with as to what was going on. And then you begin to see whether the evidence fits it. And if there's any evidence against it, then you have to take account of that too. But over the years, and it's many years now that I've been looking at this,

the hypothesis gets stronger and stronger. And that is, this was a cooked-up exercise to give America a pretext for attacking Egypt. I'm Peter Hounam, I'm an investigative journalist. I wrote a book called Operation Cyanide which is focused on the story and also I was responsible for a BBC documentary. It was about 1999, I was asked by a TV company to look into it. They'd been approached by a guy in America who wanted it investigated. He tried to get American TV to cover the story and do a new investigation of it, and it completely failed. There was just no interest among the big networks.

So that's how I started looking into it on behalf of this company that was working for the BBC. One of the most extraordinary thing about this is that the American press, TV, newspapers and so on, more or less ignored the story. I mean obviously there had been mentions of the attack, sometimes a page of information, but nobody had dug into all these discrepancies that were evident. And now, years later, I'm not surprised by this because I find that in your country, the press is not really on the ball

when it comes to trying to expose these sort of things. Do you have any people paid by the CIA who are working for television networks? This, I think, gets into the kind of getting into the details Mr. Chairman that I'd like to get into in an executive session. The official story was and I was able to download the official Israeli inquiry report. It didn't convince me because some of the basic facts that I'd been told about suggested to me there was more to this than just an accident, which is what the official view was. Captain Ward Boston, the attorney for the Court of Inquiry, he knew it was all a phony

court of inquiry and everything was decided in advance what the outcome would be. It's one of those situations where political action takes over when you're told by the President of the United States, Secretary of Defense, to keep your mouth shut, don't say anything, and that's a direct order. And you've taken an oath that's supported, clear in my mind, the intent of the St. Liberties. And I'm sure that they were disappointed they didn't.

The first thing is that the ship had been watched by Israeli surveillance planes for hours and hours before the attack. The Israelis had run anywhere from 9 to 13 reconnaissance missions on us in the morning. They'd identified the ship and had it on the tracking board in military headquarters. However, this had been taken off. This didn't add up to me. I have spent a large part of my life flying over the oceans and identifying ships.

And this ship was perhaps the easiest ship to identify that was listed in the United States Navy. Equipped with antennae from bow to stern, pointing in every direction, and a look that made it extremely easy to recognize. And so I will never, never buy the idea that the palace thought this was some other ship. It cannot be true that Israel made a mistake and thought this highly technologically equipped naval vessel with American markings and an American flag could be a much smaller Egyptian freighter. Another victim was the United States Naval Vessel Liberty.

She was mistaken for an Egyptian vessel and Israeli ships and planes torpedoed and strafed her. The casualties were high, 34 American dead and 75 wounded. There were arguments later about how the error happened, and the best explanation seemed to be the urge felt by all Israeli forces to win a quick victory. There was little time to check targets. Pilots were flying seven or eight missions a day. The Liberty was just 12 miles from the Sinai Peninsula, where the speed and ferocity of

the Israeli land operations caught everyone by surprise. The time the Liberty was attacked, the NSA also had an eavesdropping plane flying high above the scene of the action. It was an EC-121, and this plane was flying right over the scene of the attack. And I talked to two of the crew members of the plane and both of them agreed that what they heard were comments from both the pilots and the torpedo boat personnel mentioning the US flag.

Why has the American public, why have American politicians, why have they just bought this idea that this was just an unfortunate error on the part of the Israelis. Why, as several of the crew were saying, were the lifeboats that had been on the Liberty being shot to pieces by the motor torpedo boats that turned up? Not only did they shoot them to make them unusable, but they dragged the carcasses onto the decks of the MTBs so that they wouldn't actually be found. Clearly, that was trying to prevent evidence from being collected afterwards.

That life raft, labeled U.S. Navy, is in the Israeli Naval Museum at Haifa as a trophy of war. Then, powerfully, there was this enormous cover-up. The crew were undoubtedly threatened. These stories were quite hair-raising. I mean, they were literally frightened, not only of disciplinary action and jail. Some of them were actually frightened of their lives because of the severity of the threats

that they'd had from military people. They were really scared the bejesus out of us. We could not talk about the attack. So this is not what you expect when what is said to be the case is that this was an accident. The Navy Board of Inquiry would not admit testimony about the jamming, the recall, the unmarked planes, the shooting of life rafts, and other material that we tried to present. Never before has the US Navy ignored eyewitness testimony of American military to accept on faith the story told by their attackers. Israel wants the territory which they call Greater Israel or the Promised Land or whatever it is, and it isn't and wasn't the area that they occupied in 1967.

The story of the Liberty is not a who done it, it's a why did it. The question that you and I are interested in is why? Why was this going on and I've tried to explain my hypothesis which is that America was up to no good and it was putting the world in a very dangerous state at that time. The deal was that America would not actively take part in a war at the beginning but it would long before a war broke out, help Israel prepare to launch an attack on Egypt. The Americans wanted to remove Nasser. Nearly a year before the Six-Day War broke out, American state-of-the-art electronic equipment, surveillance equipment, jamming equipment, what is known as spoofing or cooking equipment to falsify radio signals, was shipped out to Israel with personnel to train people.

Now, I've interviewed people who did the training, so I have no doubt that that was part of what I'm talking about because they say it was Operation Sinai, point blank. Another part of the story was that America would join the war on some pretext. The pretext that we now know was that the attack would take place on the USS Liberty. It would be damaged or sunk, most probably, and the blame would fall on the Egyptians or the Soviet Union. And this would give America an excuse to launch an attack from the Sixth Fleet, which was further down the Mediterranean. And this would have been the planned pretext for America to join the war and attack

Nasser's regime. Unbelievable. Let's go to our question and answers. Former Marine asks, why was the USS Liberty singled out to be the ship that was attacked and what has been alleged to be a plot to justify nuking Egypt? I have a pretty bit, but not as much as I do now. We were set up from the get-go, possibly a year or more so, even before that, and they just happened to pick the liberty because we were in the area. We've always went off the coast of Africa, and it's just unconscionable that our government could do that to anybody. I mean, especially American sailors and Marines and CIA people, NASA security agency, doing their job for their country,

and to be slaughtered by a foreign government and blame it on somebody else and cause World War III is unbelievable. Okay, Doc, we have a special guest. Yes, I'm Phil Nelson, and the author of the book Remember the Liberty. I have attained a certain amount of insights into this as a result of the research I've done regarding the background, context, the operation, and then the follow-up, you know, the after effects of the attack on the Liberty. And I believe that the Liberty was selected well in advance, even though it was on the Ivory Coast at the time.

As of May 23rd of 67, it was on the Ivory Coast, and they were rushed up because they knew the situation was getting worse and worse. But just before that, in fact, at about that same time, there was another intelligence ship that made its way across the Mediterranean from the Suez area called the Jose Valdez. Yes, thank you. I think that Lyndon Johnson basically selected that. He asked for all the names of the characters. He wanted the ship named Liberty because he wanted to have that title,

Remember the Liberty, as one of his, you know, the premises for attacking Egypt. I think he had it planned out in advance. He wanted that ship. He didn't want the Jose Valdez. You can't say, remember the Jose Valdez with that panache. Good answer. We've got another one here. Any of the survivors, are you aware of the claims, the book of the fox bats over Dimona? It was written by two Israelis that Russians and Arabs schemed to provoke Israel into a war so that Russia could attack and destroy Israel's nuclear project at Dimona.

All right, we'll just move on. Have any Liberty survivors been in contact with Jeff Gates? Now, he's the author of Guilt by Association. Gates says that LBJ's speechwriter happened to be in Israel when the Six-Day War started. They heard sirens signaling Israelis to rush to shelter, but Israel leaders told them not to worry, saying that instead it was all fake. Nobody was attacking Israel, and Israel just needed to keep its own people in fear. Okay.

All right. Have any of you guys submitted Freedom of Information Act FOIAs requests regarding the U.S. Isler fee? Larry has the answer here. Dozens. We've submitted them to the National Security Agency, Central Intelligence Agency, just about any agency that we thought might have information available. And in some cases, we've gotten information back.

It's always been a delay in receiving it, and most of the information is redacted, meaning that half of it's been blackened out. So the information you're looking for is the part that's being redacted out. Okay, thank you. Well, we talked about this, where the USS Liberty is right now. Okay, question to True News and the USS Liberty crew. Is it possible that Robert Maxwell was involved in this cover-up with backdoor software? The father of Jelaine Maxwell?

Jelaine Maxwell. Right. And he's got a very big imprint in history in that area, but that's something that's beyond any research I've done. Okay, thank you. All right, did you know about the true news before the docuseries? In other words, did you guys know about true news, and what was your response when True News approached you about being interviewed for this Sacrifice and Liberty?

Did you know about True News before? No, I did not. I don't think either Mickey or Bob, myself, who did I leave out? Oh, Ron, I'm sorry. And Larry, we didn't, but we were elated when we got here and found out, hey, man, we've got somebody on our side that's not going to abandon us like our government did, and they're not going to murder us or put us on the cross like the Israeli Zionist government tried to do.

All right, how do we support our military without supporting unjust wars, Israel and Zionism, and avoid serving two masters? Who wants to take that one? You only can have one master I think Ron mentioned that before and I think we mentioned it when we tried to answer the question about having dual national relationships

so for us it would be you can't. You've got to, I mean, we're all U.S. citizens, and you support one government, it would be the U.S. government. Thank you, Larry. Here's one. Tom D. wants to know veterans that are not carrying this burden alone, if you are carrying it alone, he asks, now that we have watched this, what's next? Should we just take to the streets or write our congressman? Please write your congressman and write us.

I, as part of the Liberty Veterans Association, we've been contacting the national veterans organizations to try to get them to write to their individual representatives. But nationally, if we can get a grassroots effort going in each individual states, contact me personally, and I will send you a draft resolution for each state. I did that at the VFW National Convention two years ago, and I'll do it for anyone who contacts me. So let me know, and you can, I guess, put up my email address or, yeah, send it to the Liberty Veterans Association. My email address is on there. All right, Larry, thank you. Doc, you've got a question?

Yeah, Jeremy, is there anyone still alive that you feel should be held accountable? Let me, what was that, Larry? I guess probably not at this point. That's not one of our goals. Really, the goal of the organization is to get the truth out and to get recognition for our fallen shipmates. So, you know, we're not looking for blame to any one individual at this point. I think this documentary, you can form your own opinions, but we know who's responsible,

and we would love to see Congress do what they're legally responsible for doing, and they haven't done it yet. But I doubt that we'll see it in our lifetime. But to answer your question, no, I doubt that anyone's still alive. And Ernie, you wanted to add to that? Absolutely. What this means to the truth, what it means to the crew, to have an honest investigation or a resolution to our complaints of injustice.

Right now, a Zimwald destroyer has been christened the LBJ. But yet, when the Navy was planning to create littoral combat ships, they were going to use patriotic names initially. The Navy Times reported that the LCS-2 was going to be named USS Liberty. Well, we were thrilled. That lasted about two months. So the impact of the situation right now is that the Navy is embarrassed about the USS Liberty. And that's what really drives us bananas. You've got another one, Doc?

Yes. Yeah, I just echo Ernie on that. But the thing that I know, and I've been doing this for 35 years, is writing letters to Congress. How do you write a letter to a person that's over got a prejudged allegiance to the Zionist state of Israel that takes their commands from Israel first, America last, and American citizens, in my view, I'm not saying you can't write letters and all that stuff, but we've tried it. We've had Congressman Pete, Paul Finley, on and on and on that lost their jobs because they stood up for us. And in my view, who do we want to support? Do we want to write a letter to somebody that is already prejudged?

Even if they know the truth, they're going to lose their job if they say anything. But their support for Israel and this cover-up, I think right here in this room and around the world, if they see it and if they want to do something, come to True News and support True News. All right. Thank you. We have another one, Doug. Thank you, Kerry. Your first name, where are you from, please? Caleb Brown, Hattiesburg, Mississippi.

Has there been any any thought or talk given all that we've tried to do, y'all tried to do with writing congressmen and going through that avenue from the legal court type of system, whether it be, you know, if there was an attorney that would be willing to take something through civil action or international court. I know that there's countries out there that have believers in Christ in them that are not exactly pro-Israel. Just a thought. I didn't know if that had ever been discussed. So to answer your question on the legal side of things, we have made efforts to contact attorneys. I mean, for years, with really no success, I think

Bob and I met with a law firm in Atlanta a year and a half or two years ago with keen interest, gave him materials to study and read. I think the thing he said to us, it hit the heart the most. He says, as lawyers, we all sign oaths to do things. And apparently they signed an oath that they can't sue our government. So there you go. How are you going to get some law firm, big DC law firm or whatever, because the firm we met with in Atlanta was a part of a huge firm. And then he says, well, bring me more information or whatever. Well, I'm going to make sure I track him down and give him what we've just done, what True News has done, and then see what he has to say.

Because that's a good way for us to start. And thank you for bringing that up because we can possibly really hit a couple firms we've talked to before and let them decide if there's any value in what this presents i think we make it the largest lawsuit in known human history well you know and i don't disagree with that but i can also tell you that if anybody wants to try to help us in that level of legal, we're talking millions and millions of dollars. And they told us that of what it would cost and how are you going to fund that. Ernie wants to say something. About 15 years ago, Admiral Starring and I went to a legal firm in Washington, D.C.,

and we presented the case. Admiral Starring felt that we had a case that was worth pursuing, They told us that, yes, it would cost us $200,000, and they could not guarantee success. We didn't have $200,000. I want to ask you, we didn't get to this question, but how have your wives handled this struggle for you men? I think that would be a good question to ask if one of the wives wanted to say that, because they've handled a lot. I can tell you to live through the pain of all the reunions we've had and all the times we've been together and the pain we've had to the personal things, Ron, and a lot of us have been through that we don't really talk about or whatever. But they suffer dramatically, profusely.

I mean, in my situation, I volunteer to help with the organization, the Liberty Veterans Association, but my volunteering means my wife does most of the work. So she lives and breathes this every day and so forth. So she knows all of our pain, and she really sees from our supporters who share their pain for us, but we still can't do anything about it. So let's pray that we have a chance to do something about it here. Amen.

Thank you, gentlemen. Well, thank you for tuning in today to this special edition of True News, where for the past two days we've honored the USS Liberty veterans on this, the 56th. It's hard to call an anniversary, but the remembrance of the attempt to sink the USS Liberty and make it just another historical marker on what might have been World War III at that time. I recall that night and having a conversation with one of the USS Liberty veterans. And he said, I think it's remarkable that in all the years that we've tried to tell a story, it took a church to bring out the truth of what happened. And I feel like we were honored to be a part of that process.

Why the Lord used us in that particular time, we'll leave that up for eternity to determine. But I believe that people were moved as a result of this. I know that there were Liberty veterans that felt a movement toward Jesus Christ that night because a church decided to tell that story. You need to watch this. If you have not seen the Sacrificing Liberty series yet, you need to.

Go to sacrificingliberty.com. You see the website right on your screen. You can watch it online, the four-part docuseries. And we'll take you step-by-step through it. And you can watch it. You can share it with your friends. Hey, you got that big TV in the house? Bring some folks over and show this very special event.

We also have it available on DVD as well. Okay, so go to sacrificeandliberty.com. Four-part docuseries here, four one-hour pieces entitled Unfriendly Fire, Perfectly Executed, The Jigsaw Puzzle, and it's not a whodunit but a whydunit. Those are the four parts there. You can watch all four parts both online and on the DVD. If you know a veteran, this would make a great gift for them of remembrance because there are a lot of veterans we find out, Rick, that don't even know the story of the USS

Liberty and they're shocked to find out the details when these men give their testimony. That was a surprising thing for me. I just figured every serviceman that had served in World War II or the Korean War had been made aware of some of the details. But if you know someone that is a history buff or anything like that, this would make a great gift for them, a great collection to not only their library, but also to yours as well. Rick, any closing comments today? Yes, sir. I hope this has been a blessing to our audience. We should never forget what happened. And as Doc said, for some reason, the good Lord chose this church to tell the truth about the USS Liberty. That's what a church is supposed to do, tell the truth.

That's right. That's our main mission, to proclaim the truth. And so the Lord wanted this story told. And he put that burden on us, and we got the job done. And now you have the opportunity to tell your friends and your neighbors the truth about the USS Liberty. God bless. We'll see you on Monday. You have been listening to True News with Rick Wiles. Thank you for listening. To find out more information regarding the broadcast,

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