TRUNEWS with Rick Wiles - Where's JFK's Missing Brain? Famed Pathologist Pursues Truth About Kennedy Assassination

Episode Date: February 23, 2022

Where is President John F. Kennedy's brain? Why is it missing? Who had the authority to remove the President's brain? Why has it been hidden 59 years? Would the answers to those questions help us know who murdered the President of the United States of America? Today on TruNews, host Rick Wiles speaks with Dr. Cyril Wecht, one of the world's leading forensic pathologists and lawyers. He is the past president of the American College of Legal Medicine and past president of the American Academy of Forensic Sciences. He has investigated and written numerous books on the famous unsolved murder, and his newest book is The JFK Assassination Dissected. Rick Wiles. Airdate 2/23/22Special Guest: Dr. Cyril WechtThe JFK Assassination Dissected: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09LSFVWFQ/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_tkin_p1_i0

This is True News, the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help us God. I'm Rick Wiles. Where is President John F. Kennedy's brain? Why is it missing? Who had the authority to remove the president's brain? Why has it been hidden for 59 years? Would the answers to those questions help us know who murdered the president of the United States of America? My guest today has been doggedly pursuing the answers to those questions for decades. Dr. Cyril Wecht is one of the world's leading forensic pathologists and lawyers. He is the past president of the American College of Legal Medicine and past president

of the American Academy of Forensic Sciences. He has investigated and written numerous books on famous unsolved murders. His newest book is The JFK Assassination Dissected. It is available on Amazon and other bookstores. It's an honor to welcome to True News Dr. Cyril Wecht. Hello, sir. How are you today? Rick, a pleasure to be with you. Thank you for inviting me. Yes, sir. First of all, I want to thank you as an American citizen for your tenacious, dogged determination to find the truth of who murdered our president. It's important, Rick. It will remain an important subject in American citizens.

If they have any sense of decency, morality, concern about our government, who we are, and so on, then the assassination of President Kennedy should remain in their minds. And the pursuit of the truth about that case is something that we must continue to undertake. That's right. How many years have you been investigating the JFK murder? It started, I guess, when I went to Carnegie Library, looked at the 26 volumes of the Warren Commission report in the fall of 64, and then gave a paper at the American Academy of Forensic Sciences talking about the Warren Commission report. And so we go back, let's say, even to 65 is 35 and 22. That's 57 years, Rick.

Yes, sir. Yes, sir. I was 10 years old when Kennedy was killed. So I guess you were in your 30s at that time. Yes, I can tell you exactly where I was. I was in the autopsy room of the Los Angeles County Medical Examiner Coroner's Office with my dear friend and colleague, Dr. Tom Noguchi, who remains my friend to this day. And we were looking at bodies that were going to be autopsied that day. The secretary came in, whispered in his ear, and Tom's complexion changed dramatically, and he told me that President Kennedy has been shot. We quickly adjourned to the closest nearby restaurant and bar where there was a TV set and sat there fixed for the next hour or more as things unfolded. So that's where I was in 1963. I was 32 years old. Yeah, yeah.

I was in elementary school, and our teacher interrupted the class and told us. And our school system at that time had television. You know, we were the first school system in the nation to have tv where was that it was in western maryland and it was a project of the ford foundation and they financed tv so we actually had live television coverage in the classroom so i remember it vividly. In 1992, the U.S. Congress decided that the JFK files were to be released to the public, but the law said that the government could withhold documents that would cause identifiable harm to the U.S. military, intelligence, law enforcement, or foreign operations. So my question, Dr. Wecht, is how could the Pentagon, the CIA, and the FBI be harmed by truth if they did not participate in the assassination?

It's an excellent question, Rick. And I have challenged audiences now by the tens of thousands of people collectively to explain logically and validly how the release of documents that have been withheld from the Warren Commission findings back then to this date could compromise our self-defense, our national security. If the Warren Commission says just one person, Lee Harvey Oswald, planned and executed this entire matter, nobody else had any involvement at all, whatever his motivations may have been, I want somebody to tell me. Any of those entities, CIA, FBI, federal government today, anybody to tell me, to tell anybody how our national security would be compromised. What they're concerned about is that the truth will be revealed. And Rick, this is what it gets down to. This is the bottom line.

It wasn't the Russians. It wasn't the bottom line yes it was the russians it wasn't the chinese it wasn't the cubans we have met the enemy and he is us it was us some top level people i have no way of knowing how many people or exactly who they were by name but i'm sure that there may be probably no more than six people at top level, a recently retired or active CIA and they are the ones that have had the power in various ways to keep this case covered up such as you mentioned in your introductory remarks for example about the brain. Who had the power to tell the pathologist not to examine the brain after it had been fixed in formalin, a solution designed to harden tissue, when

they went back two weeks after the autopsy. And you'll see in the autopsy report it says, serial sections parallel from one side to another, serial sections of the brain are not made in order to preserve the specimen. Preserve the specimen? For whom? For Jackie Kennedy's mantelpiece? For his grandchildren? Who in the hell was that going to be retained for, preserved? And that brain remains missing to this day. Why? Because serial sections of the brain, after it had been hardened, cutting it like a hard-boiled egg from side to side, like making a salad. Looking at it, you would have seen the hemorrhagic tracks through the brain,

and it would have been demonstrated clearly, unequivocally, that two shots hit the president in the head, one from the rear and one from the front. That's why the brain was not dissected. And that's why it went missing. And that's why it has remained missing. I'm sure probably destroyed a long time ago. But this is the kind of a cover up. So who who did this and who had the power to do this?

Did Lee Harvey Oswald in his grave continue to have that kind of power? Unbelievable. Bill Benson Dr. Weck, when did Kennedy's brain disappear? Brain was listed in a document which was a cockamamie executive order saying that Jacqueline Kennedy was the owner of all the autopsy materials. That was in April of 65. A year and a half later, they did an official inventory in October of 66. This is when I discovered things when I was the first non-government related non-government sponsored forensic pathologist given access to all of the autopsy materials in 1972. And when I was there and I reviewed everything I looked and I compared the April 65 list to the October 66 list,

and lo and behold, some things were missing, including the large metal box which contained the president's brain. So when did it go missing? Went missing sometime after April of 66. Exactly, you know, what date or so on, who knows. I guess we'll never know. But that's the background of that missing brain. That's when people became aware that it was missing, so we don't even know when it disappeared. I was going to say, Sunday, August 24th. Anybody wants to Google it? Sunday, August 24th, New York Times, page one story by

Fred Graham, President's Brain Missing. Page one, August 24th, 1972. I'm sorry, Rick. Wow. On the day of November 22nd, 1963, when the president was pronounced dead at Parkland Memorial Hospital. Did the Dallas County coroner take charge of the procedures at that point? The Dallas County medical examiner, Dr. Earl Rose by name, was there to take jurisdiction. I knew Earl Rose. We were in the Air Force together, although on a different basis, but we met at some national conferences sponsored by the government and other professional organizations. Earl Rose was a competent forensic pathologist, and he was there, and he had the legal authority, the sole jurisdiction of the president's body. The feds pushed him up against the wall, threatened him, hands on guns, profanity, and told him just stay out of the way. And they left and he ran after

them out into the driveway of the hospital and they didn't give a damn and they took the president's body back to Washington, D.C., where the autopsy was performed that evening at Bethesda Naval Hospital. Actually, ironically, that passage of time should have inured to their benefit. That gave them the opportunity to bring together two or three of the top forensic pathologists in the country to work on that case. A very complex case, multiple gunshot wounds, differentiating entrance from exit, trajectory, sequence, correlating all of those wounds in Kennedy with the multiple wounds in Conley. A very, very difficult task. And Rick, to whom was that task turned over?

Humes and Boswell, career naval pathologists. Ready for this? And I want to jam this down the throats of anybody who sticks with the Warren Commission. I want you to know what your evidentiary burden is. I want you to know the two guys who did this autopsy, Humes and Boswell by name, had never done a single gunshot wound autopsy in their entire careers. What?

Any training in forensic pathology in this great country of ours, with all of the top forensic pathologists available within one hour drive or fly time from Washington DC including top level forensic pathologists in the military located right there in Washington DC on the grounds of the Walter Reed Hospital at the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology, the Mecca of Pathology at that time. None of those people was invited. All right. I've heard three amazing things here in this statement. Number one, the Dallas County medical examiner was physically assaulted by federal agents in the room where the president's body was lying. That's right. They threw him up against the wall and they told him

to get out. Just get the hell out of here. We're taking the body. Yeah, right. All right. So that's amazing fact number one. Number two, the crack team of experts had never done an autopsy on a gunshot wound. That's amazing. They weren't experts. Can you imagine, you know, you're not a pathologist or a doctor, but just imagine somebody with multiple gunshot wounds and you've never done a gunshot wound autopsy in your entire career. I mean, that's why we train for a whole year or more in forensic pathology after we've had the basic training in pathology, such as I have done and such as all board certified forensic pathologists must do. Can you imagine? Unbelievable. I'm sorry. What was your third one? Well, the third one was that there at the Naval Hospital,

there were real experts standing by who were ignored. Right there, right there. In the city, right there in the city. And that tells me that the assassination was a managed affair from inside Washington, and the cover-up was underway, and the narrative was being written every hour. You're right. The narrative began in the planning and execution and then continued on a as needed basis. Whatever had to be done, they would deal with it. When they came to learn about these different things, well on the right side, fractures and destruction of a portion of the brain that is located posteriorly and inferiorly and so on. And guess what?

The pathologists who did the autopsy that night, they said that the occipital area was intact with no fractures and no damage to the cerebellum because it just did not fit in, you see, with the scenario that had already been planned for one shooter, Oswald, and nobody else, and so on. Incredible. You know, I've been talking about this, oh my God, thousands and thousands of times over these years. I continue to have this passion. It's not feigned.

It's not forced. It's not contrived. It's not orchestrated by me i i i when i talk about it rick i become so damn angry i become so incensed that this would have been done and that they got away with it and that it continues to get away with it as we talk here in 2022 you know uh when my book was reviewed i don't know if it's here or not when my book was reviewed, I don't know if you can see it or not, this book was reviewed, a two page story by the New York Post on Sunday, February 6, that story was picked up, published in the London Times. I've had two interviews with people from London, I've had two interviews with people from London. I've had an interview from Moscow

interested in this case in dozens of programs like yours and so on. And you know what Rick isn't it interesting? New York Times, Wall Street Journal, ABC, NBC, CBS, nobody has followed up. Nobody has contacted me even to attack me, to criticize me. Just let it go. Now, I don't need that publicity. I'm busy as hell with my work. I'm very active and teaching and writing and doing autopsies and consulting and so on. I don't need it. But the point I'm making is this is the way this case is being handled to this day as we sit and talk now 59 years later. That's right. I'm in my 24th year doing this work of uncovering news that has been covered up. And I've come to the conclusion that the major editorial leaders of the news organizations are CIA agents.

I just believe that's what's going on. They run the news organizations. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, you know, I would agree with you if you use, you know, the agent in his broadest term. They have a relationship, there's no question. Right. Do you guys want to get information from us or so on, or do you want to be cut out? Oh, I agree. No question. Because these people aren't dummies.

They're just as smart as you and I. That's it. They told um and they never followed through look my god look today rick what these these same outfits do when somebody gets involved in in a you know even in a relatively mild scandal that doesn't affect anybody look at look at what happened with uh cuomo being bounced off cnn because he you know supported his brother uh if a brother doesn't support a brother then what the hell is he worth as an example when somebody wants to run for office and they come up with when you were 16 years old um you smoked a marijuana joint when you were uh in in high school you pinched a cheerleader's butt i mean you name it baby there's not a damn thing they don't uncover not a thing in the world that they don't i just read an article today about beto o'rourke in texas who's running for governor

and they talk about something that he said in 19 uh six, six years ago or more that I don't even know. But what they do is they they cover up crimes of their of their guys and they uncover the smallest things of the people who aren't following instructions. Yes. And they let everybody know we're in charge. Dr. Wick, what are some of the other things that are in this book that if people buy this book and read it what are some of the other astounding things that they're going to learn i think the beauty of this book rick and i don't you know say this in a egotistical way is that it lays out everything we've been talking about in so much more in a clear fashion that people can follow you know it's not super technical i mean i discuss things in a medical

pathological fashion but it's just a way that people can follow the entire saga And then some personal vignettes. My meeting with Marina Oswald and discussions with her about Lee Harvey Oswald. My meeting with George D. Morenschild, a white Russian emigre who befriended Oswald, took him under his wings, and then in later years he's on his way more demorand shell to dc to testify and he conveniently commits suicide at his daughter's home in florida on his way up to dc my book gets into the single bullet theory which is the sine qua non of the warren commission report one bullet producing seven wounds in two men seven wounds in and out of kennedy and connolly with horizontal and vertical gyrations that you don't see in comic books uh if they still make comic books today like i remember as a kid um the singer the cockamamie single bullet theory, the discrepancies that I've talked about the brain.

And it points out how radiological, neurosurgical, pathological and acoustics evidence all prove that there were shots fired from both the rear and the front at Dealey Plaza that day. So all of that is in the book. And I really recommend the book for people who want to know about this. I can't tell you how many people, including an intelligent, experienced guy like you, you know, like you just said that you heard some things today that you hadn't thought of or maybe did not even know or so on. You know, unless you get into the case and study it and and know the dates when things were done to know for example rick the house select committee on

assassinations a bipartisan committee established by the united states congress to reinvestigate jfk and martin luther king's assassinations in. I was a member of the forensic pathology panel. I testified before that congressional committee to know that that congressional committee of top ranking Republicans and Democrats concluded with a high degree of probability that there were two shots, two shooters from the front and the rear and so on. And you know what happened with that report from the Congress in 1979 when they submitted their final report, zero, not a damn thing was done. So you can even ignore the United States Congress. So you'll find all of that in my book.

What about Jack Ruby? What was his role other than killing Oswald? I think Jack Ruby, who was called Mafioso from the age of 17 in Chicago. You know, I've often said about Jack Ruby, Rick, Damon Runyon on LSD could not have included a character like Jack Ruby. He was a restaurateur. He was a bar owner. He was a pimp. He was a hustler. He was a police informant. He was an FBI informant. He smuggled guns into Cuba. You name it, there wasn't a damn thing. And I do believe that Ruby was sent by the mafia to see to it that Oswald did not continue to live. And the whole story of Ruby, by the way, walking into the Dallas Public Safety Building, unchallenged by anybody, they said, and so on. The truth came out later on that he was led in through another door by a high-ranking official, conveniently at the right time, as Oswald was being walked out with two big non-uniform plainclothes detectors, one on each side of him.

And Ruby was there for that purpose. He thought he would be a hero. He may have already known about his lung cancer and that he was going to die from his lung cancer. You know, who knows? But he thought he would turn out to be a big hero. So that's a fascinating aspect of the case, too. Who were some of the players? I mean, whatever this shadow government agency or cabal that orchestrated it,

who were some of the other players? You mentioned Mafia. Did they use different actors to help carry out parts of the plan? Yes, exactly, Rick. That's the way the game was played. You use different people. They don't know anything more than what they're told to do. You know what I mean?

They're not party to the overall scenario and plot. And as far as people then coming into play later on, let me give you one example. You know, I wish I knew all the names of the top, but one I will tell you unquestionably was Allen Dulles. Allen Dulles was the director of the CIA, who was removed from that position by john kennedy because of the terrible things he was doing with the cia intervening in politics domestically and around the world anytime they felt they had to do something and so on all this having been dismissed from his position as cia director so who the hell do you think is appointed to the Warren Commission and who plays the major role? Alan Dulles. Chief Justice Warren is busy with the Supreme Court. U.S. senators and congressmen on that commission are very busy with their duties. But Alan

Dulles was there. Can you believe that? If you read this in a novel, Rick, you would say, come on, Mr. Novelist, give me a break. You know what I mean? You can only go so far with things of a fictional nature. But when they become too convenient, too contrived, you lose all credibility unless your book is designed to be a spoof. But this is all real life. Alan Dulles, active, running essentially the investigation. Unbelievable. And his brother was John Foster Dulles, who was the Secretary of State.

And so did you ever read the book Target Patton on the death of General Patton? No, I haven't. I interviewed the author of that book years ago, and he demonstrated that the forerunner of the CIA, the OSS, ordered the assassination of General Patton. And he personally interviewed here in Florida, on his deathbed, the man who shot Patton. The man confessed on his deathbed.

And he was an Army private at the time. This was at the end of World War II. And Patton was furious about things that he saw the OSS doing, which was, again, the forerunner of the CIA, and I assume that meant Operation Paperclip and bringing the Nazis to America, and there was talk that Patton was going to come back to America, write a book, tell everything, and run for president. Okay?

And so, according to this book, the OSS director ordered... Yes, yes. Yes, yes. I couldn't think of his name. He, Donovan, ordered the assassination. And so they waited on Patton to drive down the road uh he was going um I think he was going hunting had his hunting dog in the car and another General and this uh Army Private uh shot Patton with a projectile wasn't a bullet it was a projectile it hit him in the forehead and knocked him out and just almost killed him but old blood and guts wouldn't die so they took him to the army hospital and guess what general patton recovered and he was being shipped back to america his plane was sitting on the tarmac. His personal goods had been loaded on the plane. The next thing was for General Patton to be wheeled out in a wheelchair and put on the

plane to flown home to America. And he died. They went to get him and he was dead. Just like that, doctor. Just like that. I'm going to have to look for that book. Yeah, Target Patton. Hey, I know I got to get you out of here. One last question. I got two questions. Jim Garrison in Louisiana. Was he on to the truth?

I think he was. I think there was something there involving Clay Shaw. I was consulted in that case and so on. But they gave him a rough time. He couldn't get cooperation from any other agencies, either other states or the feds, when he wanted to get information and so on and they ridiculed him and so on so the the case never had a chance of being successful but i think there was something there how much i do not know yeah okay the other one uh uh was um in 2016 during the presidential campaign a photograph was released of senator ted cru Cruz's father standing on a sidewalk in Louisiana with Lee Harvey Oswald. Donald Trump made a big deal about it. And the media said, this is outrageous. Donald Trump is accusing Ted Cruz's dad of participating the assassination. What I said that day on our on this program was no,, no, that's not the truth. I think

the truth is we got to consider the possibility of Ted Cruz's dad worked for the CIA. Yes. I called Senator Cruz's dad because I have his phone number in my phone. All right. I've talked to him in the past and I called his dad all day long and he wouldn't answer my call because I wanted to ask him, why were you in Louisiana standing with Lee Harvey Oswald? That same night, Ted Cruz withdrew from the presidential race, the same night. And I think, I think he got a call from the agency that said time's up you got to get out all right one last question doctor yes was there a coup d'etat in november 1963 was the united states of america overthrown yes the government was overthrown by the assassination of president kennedy and when that happens anywhere else in the world, we label it for what it was, a coup d'etat in America. Yes. Thank you, Rick. That's what I

always like to end up with and make people understand this was coup d'etat in America. Our government was overthrown. And the ruling class that did it are still running this country. Those kinds of people are still there. That's right. All right. Dr. Weck, thank you so much. I appreciate all the work that you've done. Encourage our audience, go buy the book. Show the book again. We'll put it up on the screen if you have it right there. There we go. The JFK Assassination Dissected. It's available on Amazon and all your favorite bookstores. The author, Dr. Cyril Weck. Sir, it's an honor to talk to you. Thank you so much for being here.

Thank you. Pleasure. Have a good weekend, you and all of your viewers. All right. Thank you so much. That's it for today's edition of True News. We appreciate your time and your support. We will see you on the next show. God bless.