Trusty Hogs - Ep113. OLGA KOCH / Broths, Brookes & Brow Lamination

Episode Date: December 21, 2023

A fan-favourite and friend of the pod returns for a festive finale: our penultimate guest before Christmas is Olga Koch! We get into Aussie Tattoo-gate, relive Olga's recent whistle-stop Disney trip, ...and tackle queer life in less liberal countries...FOLLOW OLGA: @Kolga300Thank you so much for listening!Support us at https://www.patreon.com/TrustyHogs for exclusive bonus content, merch, and more!Trust us with your own problems and questions... TrustyHogs@gmail.comPlease give us a follow @TrustyHogs on all socialsBe sure to subscribe and rate us (unless you don’t like these little piggies - 5 Stars only!)Thank you to our Patreon supporters...EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS: Guy Goodman / Simon Moores / Mary Fox / Annie Tonner / Sarah Deakin / Oliver Jago / Anthony Conway / Matthew Thomas / Madeline QuinnePRODUCERS: Richard Bicknell / Elle / Richard Bald / Neil Redmond / Victoria Hutchison / Harald van Dijk / Tim & Dom / David Walker / Rachel R / Sadie Cashmore / Claire Owen-Jones / Jess & Nick / Zoë / Sarah & Molly / Raia Fink / Cordelia / Rachel Page / Helen A / Tina Linsey / Graham Marsh / Amy O'Riordan / Abbie Worf / Kie Web / Matt Sims / Luke Bright / Leah / Kate Spencer / Tristin / Liz Fort / Taz / Anthony / Klo / Becky Fox / Emily Gee / Dean Michael / Glenys Wood / Stefanie Catracchia / Sophie Chivers / Marc / Carey Seuthe / Charley A / KC / Hayley WorfWith Helen Bauer (Daddy Look at Me, Live at the Apollo) & Catherine Bohart (Roast Battle, Mock the Week, 8 Out of 10 Cats)FOLLOW HELEN, CATHERINE & ANDREW...@HelenBaBauer@CatherineBohart@StandUpAndrew Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:33 Bye. Episode 113 of Trustee Hogs. No wait. Did we just get me saying you're going to blow your clit off? Like you don't say that on the podcast? Never. I would never.
Starting point is 00:00:42 Helen Bower, you would always. I'm Catherine Bowhart. This is Trustee Hogg. The podcast where we tell you about our perfect lives. And also where we try to tell you how to fix your lives when you send us in your problems. Occasionally we do that like, oh, a prox two years after you wrote in the problem.
Starting point is 00:00:58 But we're really trying. Are we? Through the fog. Step forth the trusty hogs. Yeah, you're going to give them your problems and they will solve them. Or maybe they won't and that's your problem. They'll have guests and Andrew White on the tech. Oh, it's Helen and Catherine as the trusty hogs.
Starting point is 00:01:26 Trust the trusty hogs or maybe. We're trying. We're trying. It's a big day today. Helen, how are you? Yeah, Thriving. Thank you. How are you? Well, I'm a little bit pissed off, if I'm honest. Oh, no. Well, you're lost... Let me say one good thing. No, you walked in here and you were like, I've just been to the beauties hall. I even got a facial. I did. Now, Helen, how many times in the last year have you agreed to get a facial with me, had me book the facial? Oh, no. And then had me cancel the facial. and then rearrange the facial
Starting point is 00:02:02 and then had me book the facial and then had me cancel the facial then had me book the facial once it was three times once check your email once you cancelled it for me
Starting point is 00:02:12 once I cancelled it for you and I said we both had COVID because you because it was your change of plan no memory no memory no memory and that was it just twice and I did actually
Starting point is 00:02:25 you went from once me once you But it's crazy that you, no, no, both your, both your cancellations. No, Catherine, no, Catherine. Both your cancellations. And it's wild that you came in and just told me that you got a facial. Please tell me you didn't get it at Couchard. Yes, I went all the way up to Notting Hill. They have other ones.
Starting point is 00:02:44 They have other ones. No, I got it down the road from me. Great. Sorry, Catherine. Also, it's reasonable that you might have gone to Couchette since I bought you a voucher for it. I know, but I want to use it with you. Fuck you. I do.
Starting point is 00:02:56 You could have text me and we could have got facials. This, this. Your eyebrows are moving. moving weirdly explain yourself. Oh my God, I'm brab- because I didn't know. No, right.
Starting point is 00:03:05 Let me talk you through what actually... No, let me talk you through what happened. Basically, I was supposed to be in Vienna this week. The trip crumbled. Well, yeah. It crumbled to fuck, okay? Because everyone's got other things to do when they're flaky.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Okay. I mean, arguably my feelings about you and facial, McGill. So, no, no, no memory. So basically, I had these, like, couple of days free. So, like, I saw a friend, I saw my cousin. No, text from you.
Starting point is 00:03:34 No, because it was... I could get a call or a booking or a facial. Do you want to do a facial this week? Do I want to hang out? Yes, do I know you've already had a facial? Yeah. What's the limit on facial numbers? Fuck you.
Starting point is 00:03:47 You can't have two in one week. Yes, you can. Only if you want to break out. It'll be full of oils. I've already broken out. Well, then don't stick more on there. We'll have it in the new year. You have to use BHA and A.H in my cleanser.
Starting point is 00:03:59 which I do now. Thank you to Sainsbury's. Huh. They sell face washer. But just again, why are your eyebrows so crunchy? Okay, so I was like,
Starting point is 00:04:07 it was like 11pm. They're like, heart at the time. It was at 11pm Tuesday night booking. And I was like watching something. Wait, you went at 11 p.m.
Starting point is 00:04:15 Or you booked it 11 p.m. at night on Treatwell. Right. Which is like the UK is like, you just booking a beauty service and where you want. It's incredible. They're not sponsoring us
Starting point is 00:04:25 so we don't need to advertise them. Shout out Treat well. No, stop. Shout outing me. Don't shout out, Big Brams. So far, Satan's Breast and Treatwell have had a shoutout, but I can't get a coffee?
Starting point is 00:04:35 Can we believe? Come on. Basically, I was like watching something, and the woman in it got a facial. And I was like, I want to do a facial tomorrow. And I had nothing on in the afternoon. So I was like, great. So I went on to a website that helps you find beauty salons near you
Starting point is 00:04:49 with available spaces the next day. Sleigh, like Treatwell. No more sleigh. Okay. And I went on it, and I was like, oh, I got a facial, a facial. So I booked that in. And then I was like, oh, have a look at what else they do. Because I was like, let's go crazy, right?
Starting point is 00:05:03 It's Christmas, let's treat myself. And I was like, brow lamination or lamitation or lamination. Lamination. Lamination, yeah, brow lamination. I was like, ooh. So I assumed that was when they just sort of make it look like really tidy for like four to six weeks. And then that's it, right? I assumed it's like put it in a little plastic pocket and then like run it through a machine and then you have them.
Starting point is 00:05:26 You're happy with that. You're happy with that. You know what they say? You get your facial little beauty so long you get your brows laminated, rhyming. I'm all right. She's all wrong! It's just good, clean fun.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Yeah. And it would be wipe clean fun if they were actually laminated. You like laminating too much. I love laminating so much. I have a laminator. But I genuinely thought that's what it was. Just four to six weeks of just sort of nice brows. So I like, you know, you just like book it online?
Starting point is 00:05:50 So I was like, okay, facial. And I got that. It was like, was like a pure hydro facial? Because it was a deep cleanse option. I was like, I wash my face. I don't need that. Do you? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:58 Often, often, often. Every day. In poo. And then they book that. Then the next morning they call me all in a test being like, wait, wait, wait, wait. If you get your brows laminated, you can't have your face wet for 24 hours. Like, what are you doing with a facial as well as that? And I was like, I don't know what a brow, brow lammutation is, actually.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Just trying, just trying it out. I want facial, though. And they went, like, you've never even been here before. You have to get like a patch test if you're going to get your brows laminated. And I was like, what for like a brown? To get your, you're a patch test. I'm not getting my eyebrows died and they went no no you get them tinted with it and I was like oh I don't need that then they were like right do you want to just come in at three and we'll just see what we can do and we'll just tick off as much as possible I was like okay okay and the woman on the phone was like really laughing and you could tell she was like
Starting point is 00:06:44 fighting to be professional but by the third phone call she'd given up she was like yeah it's me again you've really fucked this time I was like this is so humiliating so then I toddle on down to the beauty salon okay and I go in and I've never been there before because I'm not really a beauty salon person. And they're just like, hi, hi, I'm Helen. They went, owie, how are you? Because I've been a nightmare on the phone. And I get my facial. And like, obviously, they, I forgot this about facials. They start by asking you what your skincare routine is. And I know that you have to lie. Otherwise, it's just like, well, you don't need to be told. We know what we're supposed to be doing. We're obviously not doing it. So you have to be like, oh, I cleanse, tone, serum, eye cream, moisturized, and morning in the night.
Starting point is 00:07:26 I'm doing eye creams. Whatever you need me to say. so we can get on with this. And then she was like, you're not using a vitamin C serum. There it is. And I was like, wait, because I thought I'd covered everything. I said multi-peptide. I said matrixel. I said hyaclonic.
Starting point is 00:07:40 I said, I said every word I could possibly think of that was like in GCSC science. And she was like really struggling. And then she went, you don't use vitamin C. And I was like, here we fucking go, bitch. Oh my God. They are there to sell, sell, sell. I now have a vitamin C series of them. But I bought it at TK. Max.
Starting point is 00:07:56 So jokes on them. Oh. And I got this. facial and one of them was like a metal ball that made it feel like someone was massaging my brain like like wires were going into my brain in a good way but she said it was normal so people usually hate it and I was like I fucking love it if anything like and then I got the brow lamentation I was like well I don't need them tinted because I got like a brow lamentation yeah yeah but like and did they tint them so we waited I literally sat in a
Starting point is 00:08:22 prep for two hours waiting to go back to get my brows because you can't do it straight away I also spent £46 pounds in a witchy shop on candles. Wait, you waited two hours to get something. You didn't even know what it was at the... I spent about 200 pounds to say. And what is this? Turns out, I've had my eyebrows permed. Which means that now...
Starting point is 00:08:46 But they're not curly. They're so straight and stiff. No, look, so what it is, is that I didn't get my face wet for 24 hours. Obviously, I vitamin Ced around there. Of course. But they're really strong. So basically, I can... them into any shape I want and they just stay there so like no no isn't that insane no put that
Starting point is 00:09:05 away I don't can you see that like I can do anything because they've been permed and then at one point she was like remember your eyebrows because they've been permed you're going to need to moisturise them and I was like ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha and she was like no seriously I'd condition your eyebrows so yesterday I conditioned them with like Aussie five minute miracle what on my eyebrows so Niels So, Niels says I look like a freak. I mean, and this is me now. They're standing up straight. Yeah, because that's how strong they are.
Starting point is 00:09:36 So I think, I think what it is, it's supposed to be for Gen Z. Because, you know, they love that look. That look. The, like, I'm from a wind tunnel. Elderly people also like that sometimes. No, they do. Those women who have been facelifted are like a wind tunnel.
Starting point is 00:09:56 Yeah, but not with the eyebrows. I was like, sorry, you've just reminded me of the most horrific email I got yesterday, which we'll start go back to. Well, okay, fine, you want to hear this? Yeah, because I think we're done with my eyebrows. Oh, my God, can you? Don't do it!
Starting point is 00:10:06 Can you? Do not do it. Can you put them back? Please, I don't, they're freaking me out. Is that right? It's closer to right. So I have to have now, now I've got to buy an eyebrow brush. Well, God knows why that exists.
Starting point is 00:10:17 I really thought it would be news that I'd gotten my eyelashes and eyebrows tinted this week because they look great. Thank you for saying so. Also, don't you love that we both went to, the beauty parlor. We were both like it's Christmas, let's get some work done. No, but yesterday, get this. So I had a meeting with a production company, talked about an idea. Which one? I won't get into any names. Oh, I want to know. I'll tell you after. Okay, Slay.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Five pounds for charity. So then they were like, Gregor Great, they took notes until I talked. I was like, okay, we're really getting on. This is so good. It seems like it went, well, they emailed my agent afterwards and were like, so sorry, the channel's actually looking for a Gen Z lead on this. And I know that casting is protected and so it's not technically illegal but like yikes I felt old I was like am I old enough for ages
Starting point is 00:11:08 wait just to check this was this wasn't your script no oh thank God I thought you were saying like you went in with your script they bought the idea and then they went but no but they were like it was like to front a documentary it wasn't like
Starting point is 00:11:24 it wasn't like We need somebody to like to take the to take blood from for the elixir of youth to be made of. It was just like, we just need someone to walk down the street while talking to a camera. And do you think they sort of thought that you probably were young enough but they met you
Starting point is 00:11:40 in person and changed their mind? No. Later on I was later on genuine. Because they were clearly up for it otherwise they wouldn't have wasted their time on the meeting. Oh bless you. Do you think when they went in you were like... Straight afterwards I was talking to Ellen about the bins at the front because there's a bin situation.
Starting point is 00:11:56 and they don't feel like the regularity is clear to us all and she was like do you think this is why and I was like and then also when I went out to tell Ellen I didn't tell her what job it was and she was like oh is this about this other voiceover job that I didn't get and I was like no it's about this thing
Starting point is 00:12:12 and she was like oh cool cool cool cool and I was like this is hell and did you not get the other voice over job because your voice is aging they gave it to a TikToker who's 21 slut but the That's different.
Starting point is 00:12:27 That's in reference to a TikToker. We will be donating all of these. No, no, no. We will be donating all of these to Age UK. No, I picked my charity. This week it's Age UK. Last week it was yours. I have to listen to them.
Starting point is 00:12:39 This week it is Age UK. Girlies. I'm too old for comedy, apparently. They need someone to talk to on the phone. Also, can we talk about? They do. They need someone to talk to. They just need someone to talk to.
Starting point is 00:12:53 They are. So let's just give them their money, okay? Your money. they need money they need people oh my god do you think they like this podcast they should totally listen to us maybe on a slower speed
Starting point is 00:13:05 and quietly but also Helen I'm gonna volunteer for the phone lines I love age UK I volunteered for them during COVID did you yeah yeah I built I built I just packed boxes in a warehouse every Wednesday
Starting point is 00:13:17 oh yeah of course you did I forgot about that but like it's such a worthwhile charity and also like it's really appreciated and it's nice I'm gonna get on the phone lines you'd be gorgeous on the phone line test how quickly they'll hang out. You'd be gorgeous. I'm lonely but not lonely enough.
Starting point is 00:13:31 It's all right love. It's all right, love. Tell me about the war. Also, I wish there was a phone line system that just wasn't operated to put them in touch with each other because when you talk to some of them you're like, oh, I ultimately
Starting point is 00:13:42 don't have enough in common with you but if you could just talk to another older person then you would do and that'd be nice. It's just sort of like not our problem, just let them fix it amongst themselves. No, I just mean like have a friend who's actually lived through the wars you have. But Catherine, you're probably older enough.
Starting point is 00:13:53 Hey, because it's a cool, back to when you didn't get the job because you were to um haggard. Hello. Hello. Did you see um, Fernbride's tour poster? The milking it's everything and I am changing topic. It's everything I personally will be going to see the tour show because
Starting point is 00:14:12 I think she's the best comedian on the circuit but also you should go see it just because of the poster. I'm sorry it's amazing. Yes I know. She texts me and so excited but also seriously go see her tour. Um oh also this week why do I do it every time when I get anxious about something business related, I'll be like, I can cut my own layers. I know I messed it up last time, but I can do it. But you can. Your hair looks so good. No, but my hair only looks good because I had to go get a fucking blowdried because when it dries curly, obviously, this is like here and
Starting point is 00:14:42 now I'm back to a fringe again. And I can't have a curly fringe again. It was a bad time of my life and I regretted it then. And I still regret it now, but I won't do it again. So I guess I'm stuck in a blow dry loop until it grows again. Wait, are you going to go back to getting your hair blowdried once a week. No, but like... Like an influencer. Like an old lady. Like an old lady.
Starting point is 00:15:03 Just you with the ladies with the magazine rats. What's Kate and Willow to this week? Are they going for a fool? She's a bit old now. I wouldn't, I wouldn't risk it. She's not Gen Z, I'll tell you that much. Not with that family genetics.
Starting point is 00:15:15 And that's all anybody cares about. Oh, God. Also with Uncle Andrew running around, you don't want another nipper. It's so funny that you do. Well, you wouldn't. If you had a paedophile in the family, you wouldn't bring in more kids, would you?
Starting point is 00:15:28 Stop it, Helen. You're right, you wouldn't. You wouldn't? I'd actively not. I'd be like, you know what, fucking leave it. That's enough of a temptation. Supply demand. Call it where it is.
Starting point is 00:15:39 That'd be mental. Get a dog, get a dog. Should we bring on our guests? Oh, we could. We're not bringing on our guests to that. We're not bringing on our guests to worse. Okay, fine. Your hair genuinely looks amazing.
Starting point is 00:15:53 And I know you're saying, like, it brings you back to that. the fringe time but it thanks I think you could do that yourself thanks that that like blow dry and pull across because it doesn't it's not as but I want it to be curly I prefer to curly because I was getting it was getting somewhere and now I'm just like oh I don't want to mess that up anyway look we are where we are look we're beauty women I had my hair done as well we're all beautiful here did you have your hair done yeah lovely what did you have done did it myself but should you have done I didn't um cut and um
Starting point is 00:16:25 Dye? Yeah. In the... Maybe it's highlights. What? Was it called? Balletage. Is it?
Starting point is 00:16:34 I don't know. Where? Thank you, Valentina. Lovely. Once again, I do not... Remember what we did, but it looks lovely, and now I own rollers. Did you book it on treat well? No, I text her.
Starting point is 00:16:47 You didn't own rollers? I now do for my first time ever. So I'm old, but today you wanted to talk about it, and you've written it on the board. everybody loves Raymond and you own rollers Can I talk about everybody loves Raymond in the extras? Everybody does love Raymond Let's be honest guys, it's a good show So please everybody welcome
Starting point is 00:17:06 All the Cogs Hello it's Catherine from Trusty Hogs I'm going on tour with a new show called Again with Feelings in 2024 And I beg of you All I want for Christmas is free to buy tickets and you can totally palm it off as gifts for your loved ones, your enemies, your exes, your friends, your allies,
Starting point is 00:17:29 you're genuinely, I don't mind who, your teachers, get them gifts for my show. They'll have a nice time, I'm a nice girl, I'll be nice, um, is. And I think it's gonna be good, so you should probably also come. Do you want to come again with feelings? You can find tickets on catherine bowhart.com or I've linked them in my Instagram bio.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Hello, it's Andrew White from Trustee Hogs here, the podcast you're currently listening to. Obviously, I'm not often on camera, but if you'd like to see my face in person, I'm doing multiple gigs in the run-up to, maybe Edinburgh, who knows, but definitely I'm doing previews nonetheless, which are in Glasgow and Lester
Starting point is 00:18:02 and several in London, and they're all on my website, and McCuntleth as well, all on my website, standupandra.com, especially I'd like some support in Glasgow because it's such a far, far away, and I don't know anyone there,
Starting point is 00:18:13 so please come to Glasgow, and anywhere else you are available to see. It's really hard, isn't it? Do it a plug? Come see me, standupandra.com, thank you. The hogs are going on tour. have a tour called Roadhogs.
Starting point is 00:18:24 We're taking our live podcast show to cities near you, we hope. Come check us out. You can find it more about tickets on linktree.com forward slash trusty hogs. Or trustyogs.com forward slash tour. Hi. Olga! We have the same hair color. We're wearing the same perfume.
Starting point is 00:18:49 What's that about? You guys, and I'd, I'd just. I've got the same top as well, but no one won't three. I'm a twiplet. A twiplet? A twiplet. What's that? A triplet, but a twin.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Let's do that thing. I'll count to three and then you say what you're thinking. We just did this in the patron and it worked out really well. One, two, three. You're Chloe Kardashian and O.J. Simpson's their actual father. But we're all sisters. Oh my God. But we're Kim and Courtney.
Starting point is 00:19:16 So, like, our dad is Rob Kardashian. But you're like also a sister, but your dad is O.J. Simpson. They're both bad dad options. Like if I'm choosing. If Chloe is adopted Or like OJ Simpson's kid Right wait for this Wait for this
Starting point is 00:19:28 How the fuck Does Tatum look just like Rob? That is really deep Kardashian's knowledge Is Ted is Chloe's son? Tatum is Chloe's son He's only a baby And everyone comments how much He looks like little Rob Kardashian
Starting point is 00:19:44 So much But all children look like other children No this is like a specific face This is like such a speck face I mean, I wouldn't, I wouldn't rule out the fact that they would plastic surgery their own child. But then they would get rid of the OJ. But they would have gotten rid of the Rob for surely. Just like they've tried to actually do it with Rob.
Starting point is 00:20:03 I am excited with her Kardashians to see how aging goes. Like if one of them, like if Courtney is so natural, if she's so natural, will she just let it all go? Will she just go gray? Like, because she believes in just like natural, herbal, not putting anything toxic in her body, like, do it. There is a fabulous way to do it. You don't think that she's put anything in her face? Never. Quint me.
Starting point is 00:20:28 No, I think this is recent. I think the vegan stuff is recent. Surely she did lots of stuff before. She definitely hasn't. She's definitely had some filler and some boat off. Do you think she's had a brow lamination? You've got to stop. I've had my brows laminated yesterday.
Starting point is 00:20:42 Do you want to feel them? They're really crispy. They're crispy. They're so crunchy. Where'd you get them? Down the road from me. That's interesting. and the direction was your choice.
Starting point is 00:20:54 I didn't know what it was. I booked it just for like banter. Like I wasn't, I was a bit confused. She booked it with a facial and they had to call her and be like, no, baby, you can't wet your face
Starting point is 00:21:05 and then have a facial and then have this. What are you talking about? So it ended up being a split appointment when we were spending like a couple of hours in Pratt in between. Wow. And Richard OI.O.R.
Starting point is 00:21:15 He came to the Pratt when I was in there. I thought he was getting his eyebrows laminated as well, and I was like, Me and all the commitments just lined up. Well, I've been having my brows laminated and Catherine's been cutting her hair. Where have you been this week?
Starting point is 00:21:28 Well, mere hours ago I was at Disneyland Paris. Thank you very much. Hours ago, you've come from the air, from the train. No, hours, I mean, I came in last night. Whoa, did you have a good time? Time of my life. 24 hours, 48 hours in Disneyland before Christmas? 36, I would say.
Starting point is 00:21:45 So we arrived first thing in the morning. Check in, get in. Two rides. Did you use Bellside? services or did you um bell services is where you leave your luggage at the hotel when you can't just in yet and still enter the park uh well our suitcases were so light that we didn't need to you took them into the park with you the second day yes oh wow we were thinking about it then we went to pim kitchen where everything is either too big or too small because you're an ant-man so we had giant
Starting point is 00:22:10 pretzels and giant hamburgers and tiny little hot dogs that's so fun yeah yeah yeah yeah it was inedible all food to be on paris is so bad no it's not some of the worst food i've ever even at shay remi horrific. Really? I've never gone to say about me. No, it's inedible. I've seen you eat, may I say anything?
Starting point is 00:22:27 By which I mean, we were in Scandinavia together and they'd be like, meat soup and I'll go and be like, yes, please, meat soup, meat soup, meat soup, and then the soup would come and Olga would you have so happily.
Starting point is 00:22:41 I've never seen anyone devour a cream-based meat soup with such blind like a lack of curiosity. And just like, mom, mom, mom, mom, mom. And, uh, and also my favorite thing about you is when you're eating, you don't focus on, like, no, there's no other focus. It's all food, baby. No, no, no, no. I, I, me too. And then, so the fact that you're saying it's an edible, I believe you.
Starting point is 00:23:03 Oh, I was like, I'll still eat it, but even, even for my standards. And I eat the way that, like, Looney Tunes just, like, devour a subject. Yeah, yeah. I still, no, I've sat with you, yeah. Um, just to check. I love it so much, though, because I'm exactly the same, except I have more questions about the food initially, whereas you're like, but French Food in general is bad and everyone talks about being good. It's bad. It's genuinely bad. That's not what Olga said.
Starting point is 00:23:26 It is. That is not what Olga said. It's the whole country. No, it's all butcher. It's all great. No, apart from the boulangeries. Like, apart from that, their restaurants, it's just oil and... You don't want to like co-covent?
Starting point is 00:23:40 What are you talking about? A cockavan. Their duck is divine. No. I like my duck crispy. Oh, no, comfy duck is fucking heaven. What's a van is divine? What's it when it's confit confit confi?
Starting point is 00:23:50 It's cooked and it's cooked in its oven. own fat. Oh, fuck. No. French food is delicious. What are you talking about? I will say that I think we don't give Spanish food enough credit. Well, I was like Italian, Italian, French. Hell, yeah. Hyped Spanish. And you're like, whoa. I agree. But French food is technically, because
Starting point is 00:24:05 like, you know everyone talks about like French cooking being the best cooking in the world? It's not the food is the best. The cooking is the best because their produce is so bad that they had to come up with loads of ways of cooking stuff. So that's why everyone says French cooking is way more advanced in Italian cooking. And like various sauces and Italian produce is so, so much better. So the only
Starting point is 00:24:21 thing, like, it's just not good food and the people are fucking trash. Oh my God, just escalated into anti-French sentiment in so much. I hate it. Wow. I don't, Paris, we were there together. It's beautiful and I will have like five croissants, but I don't want to go sit in a restaurant.
Starting point is 00:24:36 Oh, jeez. And oil, and some sort of like vaguely cooked meat while someone's rude to me. I don't think so. Fable. Soup l'angiot. It's amazing. Is that French onion soup? It's so fucking good. It's so good. Yeah, but whenever I think of French onion soup, I was thinking of my friend Francis, who's had
Starting point is 00:24:51 French and New Seek twice in their life and both times had gas so bad. Okay, I did that to myself. I ate half a cabbage last week. And honestly, you ate half a cabbage. Okay, can I? Roll or cook? So, I subscribe to odd box.
Starting point is 00:25:03 I do the odd box mini. And I love the oddbox because... You got a mini. Yeah, yeah, I should go mini. Just for me. And then for me, it's like supermarket sweep or whatever it's called or like a master chef or iron chef when they give you a box and you have to create.
Starting point is 00:25:14 For me, it's like a challenge every week. Yeah, I agree. And so I got to the end of the week and I got a cabbage. And I was like... What kind of cabbage are talking? Just like a regular Hispy heart Like what white red
Starting point is 00:25:23 White I believe And I just What shape was it Round And so I cut it up In tiny little pieces Made a hash With like potato
Starting point is 00:25:29 And then I ate the whole thing And then Two of the worst days of my life To the point where you know You can eat half a cabbage And I'd expect to get gas Guys Guys
Starting point is 00:25:38 You don't understand Like skirt lifting It was I put on a really Thick puffy jacket Wait wait The way that like Snoopy does in that car Do you know what I'm talking about?
Starting point is 00:25:50 Where it's like a little igloo on top of him. So I was like on public transit, I'd be like, surely I'm safe. I was not safe. I thought I was done jumping myself. And even the thick jacket, the goose feathers couldn't hold it in. It was unbearable.
Starting point is 00:26:03 I honestly thought you're going to be like, I opened it and bam. Oh, I didn't need to. I didn't need to gather. Whoa. It permeated? Yeah, yeah, yeah, the thick jacket. I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 00:26:13 Whoa. Don't be, we love that sort of stuff here. Holy shit. It was like once, once I realized that it didn't fear the thick jacket. kid. I knew that I was never going to be safe. Oh my god. The cabbage hash sounds nice though. It sounds so delicious. And I also love a coleslaw made with cabbage at home. Divine, divine, divine. Cabbage is just delicious.
Starting point is 00:26:30 Cabbage, carrots, mayonnaise, salt, loads of pepper, some sunflower seeds. Don't mind if we do, but don't leave it too long or it's going to get all wet. We don't like that. I never buy cabbage. Yeah, cabbages is like ever. I love cabbage so much. Or then when you do that thing where you just charred on the one side and it gets a little burnt. Hispy cabbage? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fuck, it's good.
Starting point is 00:26:50 I would love you to come over and do a little lesson with me and Soneil. I would love to do that. That would be great. A miso drizzle. Oh, don't get me started. Truly, I think miso has a place everywhere. I agree. Put it in everything.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Yeah. Oh, that's my idea. Yes. Oh, I love it. I put it in broths. Yeah, heaven. Heaven on it. Why are we making broths?
Starting point is 00:27:10 Like, why are we making? What are we doing? What are we doing? I'm so excited because we finally. We finally have a Catherine in the studio. We got a Catherine in the studio. I'm so happy. I'm so happy.
Starting point is 00:27:20 I'll let you ferment things yourself. I've been known. You've been to log down. Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sure, sure, sure, sure. Who pickled? Like, have you ever been to a Pilates class? Of course.
Starting point is 00:27:29 Yes. I finally feel at home. I know. I finally feel so happy. She was mocking me so hard before you got here. You know, for being myself. You're good, clean, old-fashioned bullying. And it's so nice to have another in the gut.
Starting point is 00:27:44 It's like, yay. This is making me feel really nervous for all of us to be in Australia. together next year. Why? Because I feel like it'll be you two doing a Pilates class and then having a miso bross. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:56 And then just me. Are we living in the same house? You and I? I think we're going to be separate from everyone else and it'll just be the two of us. But it's going to be very simple. There's an FS8 in Australia.
Starting point is 00:28:06 Olga and I will get up. We'll do our Melbourne Pilates class. Olga, what are you know with the best place for brunch is? We'll meet you there. Then we'll do an activity that Olga's planned. Then we'll eat a lunch place I pick.
Starting point is 00:28:16 And then we'll go do our shows we all have had a gorgeous day. Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry. That sounds like the ideal life. Olga does pick really nice places to eat. Yeah. We did an ice cream tour of Sydney.
Starting point is 00:28:26 Fuck, yes. It was incredible. It was incredible. Fuck, it's the best owner place ever is in Melbourne. I can't wait to take you. We're going to have the best owner. Ooh. And then we're going to really get acquainted with Australian wines to the point
Starting point is 00:28:36 where we have a favorite by the end of the trip. I'd love to do it. We can also do, I can drive so. We can do a vineyard. Like that Australian wine bar you took us to in the last night in Perk with little Joshy Pugh. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:45 But that was just the one time. I say we like really get to know the local wineries. I'm into that. Yes, please. Oh my goodness. Yes. I remember Phil Weng? Activities, Mom. It's nice. Yeah, but I, Olga, knows this.
Starting point is 00:28:56 I can only join her for half the activities that she plans in a day. Oh, yeah, but I'm okay with that. No one. I would say me too. I don't drink enough order for your level of energy, but I will be up for working at. She is an egg whilst walking to ensure that she's got the energy for the third gallery of the day. I do actually really respect the hell I love. I love free walking tours.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Me too. Me too. Oh my god, we should do a walking tour, I'd love to do. Like a ghost tour, you know, like a ghost tour, you know, like, not mad, we could do all kinds of walking tour, we could do a ghost tour, we could do a feminism tour, we could do a queer history tour, we could do, we could do a feminism tour. We could do, like, I'm sure we do.
Starting point is 00:29:27 Are you doing Brisbane as well? No, God, no. Okay, when we're doing Brisbane, we're going to Warner Brothers world. They have a movie do roller coaster. This is different. That I will always be in a theme car. That is different. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Sorry, I just want to context shows why I just randomly said the words Phil Wang two minutes ago. Yeah, did you? Did you? Phil Wang. Did you? I didn't even hear it. What's that about? Is that a weird erasure I've done?
Starting point is 00:29:49 What's that? I believe his mastermind subject was wineries of New Zealand. And I think basically that's what I want, where I want us to get to at the end of Melbourne. What would your mastermind topic be? American Pie. And I'm looking for something a little more classy. What was yours?
Starting point is 00:30:03 You did it. Mine was Vita Sackville West. Huh? A, like, polyamrous, queer writer. Okay, that's very cool. That's very cool. But she was also like super problematic. and like very classist
Starting point is 00:30:16 but she was she was with Victoria Wolf oh Virginia Woolf who the fuck's Victoria Wolf Virginia Woolf for a while Have you been to the estate in Sussex Yeah Isn't it amazing?
Starting point is 00:30:27 It's absolutely exquisite It's fucking crazy It's absolutely exquisite The gardens are amazing I actually went and told them I was doing the mastermind That is my mastermind topic And they gave me zero special treatment
Starting point is 00:30:36 and I respect the hell of that They were like cool I've been to Sussex I am not the first woman to tell you this and they were liars, but I'm the real masterline. I was like, no, I really am. And they're like, mm-hmm. Yeah, yes, Sissinghurst is beautiful.
Starting point is 00:30:54 I think I'm talking about something else. I'm talking, is it the one in Essex? In the South. What is it? What's the one in Lewis? It's now confirmed. It's not Sissinghouse. It's really good.
Starting point is 00:31:03 You should go to Sissinghurst, though. I will go to Sittinghurst. It's so gorgeous. Helen, do you want to go to Sittinghurst is so good. The history is phenomenal, and it's like, like, both of them were having queer affairs all the time. Although you know which day trips You take me on, you take me to see animals Yes, I'm going to take you to Warner Brothers World
Starting point is 00:31:19 And I'll take you on the Scooby-Doo's roller coaster Yes I drove by Birdworld the other day Birdland I'm going I drove by it because I'm Helen Oh my God I hate when I confuse you on Ellen
Starting point is 00:31:29 Ellen and I went to the new forest And we saw wild ponies and wild pigs That's my county Heaven! So we were coming back through fleet services And so Helen As you should I did receive a message
Starting point is 00:31:40 Obviously he received a message from Ellen Being like looks like we made it And then that's on it And then we, but we saw it and I thought of you. Bird World. With the Terry Pratcher Owl Parliament.
Starting point is 00:31:52 Enjoy. And a dino bamboo maze. Taking Sunil for us 43rd and January. What's your mastermind? What were she? Gilmore Girls. Oh wow.
Starting point is 00:32:02 Yeah. I mean, I haven't been asked. I think it's probably been done. Even though I did watch University Challenge the other night with Sunil. Ten. Fuck.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Well done. No, no. Ten. And I was like, but I said, oh, I'll put on an easy episode. And he was like, they're all the same. And I'm like, you, it is, you handicap like in golf, right? You're not going to give Oxford and Cambridge the same question as you're giving Loughborough and Hull.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Well, that's mental, right? And he was like, no, it's the same question. No, you have to handicap it like golf. Surely. That's not fair. You forget that the people who get on their university challenge teams and their universities are the smartest people in their university. Oxford Brooks.
Starting point is 00:32:40 Oxford Brooks. Like, I know I didn't go to university. university, but sorry, one second. But neither did you say, come on. Brooks, and I know this because my cousin Sophie sounds a bit thick and she went to actual Oxford, but she'd be like, I went to Oxford and everyone goes, oh, Brooks. And she's like, no, no.
Starting point is 00:32:57 The amount of people who do say they went to Oxford and it is Brooks, though, and you're like, do people do that? Oh my God, there's no way. Have you never worked in marketing? Let me tell you all of those women say Oxford and you're like, oh, okay, great. Get it, girl. But then I obviously immediately go. Google and it is Brooks. You're the worst. Sorry, if somebody can't attach an attachment and
Starting point is 00:33:19 it's fine. Am I trash? No. They do. Tell us more about Sissinghurst. Beautiful. And by the way, wait till you watch my mastermind where I completely implode. I also didn't go to Oxford and I'm terrible at quizzes and terrible television quizzes and I completely freak out under pressure. They're like, swap fish goes on pizza and I'm like anchovies. Sardines? I lost my mind. I like, was answering questions. Like questions ago, I'd be like, oh my God, I was awful. But did you win? No.
Starting point is 00:33:49 No. Have you never seen me on a TV quiz? But don't they like make it easy for celebrities? Yeah. Oh, honey. I know. I came last on House of Game. I still think you picked a really hard subject as your expert subject.
Starting point is 00:34:02 I did well on my subject. So like that would have taken so much time to research, then do like obscene general knowledge learning. Would have been tricky. Which fish goes on a pizza? Yeah, I'm sure. Why is that being asked? Oh, because they think that's an easy question. Because they make them easier as you get more wrong, I think.
Starting point is 00:34:18 Oh. Oh, when you got down to what goes on a pizza? I didn't know that. Listen, if I went to University of Oxford and I didn't, I would have gone to Brooks. Brooks, Brooks, Brooks. Shout out to all our listeners that go to Oxford Brooks University. You guys are going to do great. The worst thing is with me, people would be like, you mean Oxford University and I'd have to be like, no, Brooks.
Starting point is 00:34:40 Because people think I'm smarter than I am. I don't know why. Wait, you didn't go to Brooks though. You went to Trinity. No, but my point is the general interaction I have to people is that they assume I'm smart and then they have to discover
Starting point is 00:34:50 I'm stupid. But Trinity is the best university in Ireland. What the fuck are you talking about? No! You know, I was very good. Yeah, it's a really good university. I should say, I was very good.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Good for you, Catherine. Good for you. Hey, hey now. Hey! That's great! With all of your OCDs and your mental stuff, like that's amazing
Starting point is 00:35:10 that you've gone to a big university. And I really plan. there because of my mental illness. Well done. Hey, pounder. No, I'm not going to fist pound you on that way. What I will say is this. Oh, God, I'm really pleased. I'm proud as part.
Starting point is 00:35:23 I was really good at school because it's spoon feeding. And I had OCD, so I would, I hated the way the books were formatted, so I would write them out again so they were just in black and white. You rewrote books by him? Yeah, I rewrote the books so I didn't have to look. She was super popular. No, I wasn't. I had no friends. That's where you got to hold your wristwork from. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:35:43 Wait, what's risk work? For the lesbianism. Oh, it's a gay thing, okay. My girlfriend yesterday was like, oh my God, do you remember when you were so embarrassed of your mom? And I was like, oh, no, I remember my mom being slightly embarrassed with me. And I was like, oh, wow, I was a tragic teen. But anyway. At the best university in Ireland.
Starting point is 00:36:00 So who else went there? Sally Rooney. Sally, oh, from normal people, good for you. Yeah, well, yep. I should say that I... Breed Kirby, your agent. Yeah, and you breed went there. I should say that when I went there, I then was terrible.
Starting point is 00:36:13 I imploded completely. Did like Oscar Wild and stuff go there? And then you did drama school after that. I did theatre at night at The Gaiety and then I did an M.A. at Central. I could really multitask. I had a full-on mental breakdown. I went from a mental institution to drama school
Starting point is 00:36:30 and they were not different enough. A lot of people singing things they could easily say. For anyone who wants more context on that, watch Girl Interrupted starring Angelina Jolie. What monologs did you do to get into drama school? I did Mary. I did Mary. widows
Starting point is 00:36:44 and... Mary Wives of Windsor? No, Mary Widows. Who's who's that? Am I losing my mind? No, we're just dumb. That's a Shakespearean play, right? No, it's a Jacobyan play. It's a Jacobyan play.
Starting point is 00:36:54 Oh, okay. It's probably Amelow. Is it Mary Widows? It's probably Am I? Losing my mind. Why do you make me... This is why I'm not smart because everyone's like, you're wrong and I'm like, okay, am I? I just gaslight myself.
Starting point is 00:37:06 And I can't remember my modern monologue. Gosh, what was it? What would yours be, Helen? Modern monologue. Probably L-weds in the courtroom. The musical
Starting point is 00:37:17 though. Yeah. Because we know you cannot get your hair wet for at least 24 hours which means you would have had to
Starting point is 00:37:22 find her with the gun in her hand to make your story plausible. Yay! I didn't mean to shoot him. I thought it was
Starting point is 00:37:30 you walking through the door. You're doing every character. Yeah. Yeah. Well just Ellen Chutney. That suit with the newspaper
Starting point is 00:37:40 coverage on it. The black and white suit in the film is fucking ever racing. It's everything. No, but I don't remember what my modern monologue was, sorry, but I'm my. What would you do now? Now? Aaron Brockovich, obviously.
Starting point is 00:37:54 Yeah, of course. I like that. Just to get to play it. Sure. Which part of Aaron Brockovich? Her big monologue about the when she remembers all their phone numbers and then she goes through all the victim. You've seen Aaron Brockovich. Yeah, I have.
Starting point is 00:38:09 It is, I can't find a single play called Mary widows. Or I might do the Kevin! Moment from the from Hamelin. Just that one one. Oh, that's so good.
Starting point is 00:38:21 Really easy to remember but an iconic performance. No, no, one word? I had a one word audition, a self-tape the other week and I didn't get it. I couldn't say one. I couldn't say one word.
Starting point is 00:38:32 And the word was, Mom, that's... Oh, so it wasn't plausible. Mom! Let's do it. I didn't do it. Wait, what would you... I can't act.
Starting point is 00:38:43 If you were auditioning for drama school. Yesterday I got turned out for a job because I'm not Gen Z. Why would you audition for it? I didn't. They asked me for the meeting. They asked me for the meeting. They asked me for the... Fuck you both!
Starting point is 00:38:54 I think they brought her in because they thought she'd be right for it. Saw her up close and went, nah, let's leave her that. I look you up within my ears. It was obviously my attitude, hell is. It must be a filter on Instagram or someone. No, my face was fine. It was my vibe that was old.
Starting point is 00:39:08 Well, should we hear from Ogle? Don't think you. What your modern monodon? blog would be. I'd do the gone girl one. Cool girl. What? Waxes her pussy raw. Come on, Roseman Pike. Yeah, so good. I mean, I've seen the film. I don't remember the monologue. Do you remember? Okay, so then she, when she gets away, when she disappears, there's like a voiceover of her talking about how she like, he can't believe that he's cheating on her because she's like, she created as cool girl. She's Amy, cool Amy or whatever. Yeah, yeah. Amazing Amy. Yeah. And even if cool girl gets cheated on, even though she like kept her herself a size
Starting point is 00:39:39 zero and ate burgers and drank beer. And he still cheated on her. fuck man I'm fuck him he he doesn't deserve to be happy but the monologue is so good at some point I remembered it by heart and I would wake myself up and say it in the mirror every day so I think it's still somewhere in there that sounds cool and normal nice I thought I wasn't the same place no you are and you are cool go do you all want to um audition next year for fun do you think we're not auditioning at the moment so we know so we know should we all there's no audition I didn't know bad so we all audition let's all audition for Rada next year like genuinely yeah
Starting point is 00:40:11 love to. And like, let's wear, like, hidden cameras on, like, are, like, a little badge or something. Yes. And let's see who gets it. Yes. I think we're all, I think we're all full scholarship. Yeah, and my classic I'll do to be to be or not to be,
Starting point is 00:40:25 a bit of Hamlet. That's what I do. No, I know what my classic would be. I would do, ready for this? Well, obviously, I'm basketball, drama, and worked for the National Theatre, but I would do Joan Lapusel from Henry the 6th part one. It is when Joan of Arc
Starting point is 00:40:40 is, um, she's facing her sentence. She's like 17. And she's, yes. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And she's facing her sentence.
Starting point is 00:40:49 And then she's like going in between being like, I'm pregnant. No, I'm not. I'm not like I am. I'm like and she's all confused. And I think I do that wonderfully. That and then Elwoods and chutney. Don't you shake your little prada pump of me, sweetie. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:06 Gender swap for the win. The Mary Wives is a fucking play, right? The Mary Wives of Windsor. But then what am I thinking? What is the widows? The Witches of these. Jacobian widows play. The Mary Wives and Windsor.
Starting point is 00:41:18 No, that's the... It was Jacobian... It was Charleston Estate. That's what it's called. Thank you so much. The widow? No, it was a Jacabean... I'm going to go home and find it on my shelf.
Starting point is 00:41:28 It might have been an Irish thing. No. The Puritan or the widow of Watling Street? No. No. Can I tell you a crazy thing about Charleston? Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:37 Okay, so Vanessa Bell... The dance or the place? No, no, no. The... The place. So Vanessa Bell... Virginia Wolf's sister had a husband who was like, whatever, right?
Starting point is 00:41:45 Yes. He just kind of allowed her to be herself. Is this the one I read the book of the Virginia Woolshe wrote that essay about women throughout the years, like women novelists that I read? I don't know. The one with the nose in the film.
Starting point is 00:41:58 Yes, that's Virginia Woolf. Her sister Vanessa Bell had lived in Charleston with her husband. They had a few children. North Carolina. No. Sussex? Sorry, I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 00:42:08 So basically she had a gay best friend. He also was famous. I also had a name. I don't remember. Duncan something, I don't remember. Anyways, so she... Who needs queer history? No, no, if it's a man, I don't care.
Starting point is 00:42:18 I remember Vanessa Bell's in Virginia Woolf's names. Nice. So Vanessa Bell had a gay best friend who also visited. She had a baby with that gay best friend. She liked to sleep with him as a laugh. And she got pregnant from that one time... See, Andrew, people do you do it. It would be fun.
Starting point is 00:42:32 For fun! But then she told everybody, including the daughter, that she is the husband's, the husband's daughter, not the gay best friends. Are we following? Yeah, we're with you. The gay best friend at the time had a boyfriend who was a little younger.
Starting point is 00:42:46 Tihaha, everybody's having fun with each other. Later on, the daughter is convinced that she is her dad's daughter. Oh, my gosh. Starts dating the boyfriend and marries the boyfriend. Isn't that the craziest thing in the world? No one told her. And then she found out and she was like,
Starting point is 00:43:00 I'm sorry, I am now married to my biological father's ex. Yeah, yeah. Isn't that wild? I was like, this is getting so close to information I do know and there it is, there it is, yes, yes, ding, ding, ding. Isn't that wild? We must tell our children who their biological parents are. We must.
Starting point is 00:43:18 Because that, honestly, is almost best case scenario. It really is, you're right. She's not wrong. People end up marrying their siblings all the time, oh, every day. Every day in Britain someone marries their siblings. And my brother won't date me. What? Every day.
Starting point is 00:43:33 And it is a pandemic in itself. No, listen, I think you're making you parents. Should we do a problem? Because I feel like this is getting really... Yes, I'd love to. But thank you for History Corner, Oger. I hope you enjoyed. Yeah, and I've loved learning about Sissingham.
Starting point is 00:43:49 No, Sissinghurst and Charleston. Sissinghurst and Charleston. Somewhere I cannot wait to visit in the New Year along with the Royal Wisley Gardens. Two separatises. I actually would like to go. Can you take me? Yeah, I'd love to.
Starting point is 00:44:01 Charleston, I'd love to go to. We can go together. Have a sausage roll. Yeah, absolutely. We can visit my dad. No, thank you. Let's go. Well, two things.
Starting point is 00:44:10 Wait, wait, sorry. I'm so sorry, Andrew. It's just because we haven't had Olga on since episode three and I just forgot. What kind of advice do you think you give? Oh, God, what kind of advice? Toxic. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:18 Agreed. Yeah. I agree. Also, my favorite thing about you is that before you give the advice, you hypothesize about an even worse, worst case scenario, than I've already made the counterfactual. So I'll be like, whoa, we are dealing with a much worse situation than I am. And then you're like, here's my solution.
Starting point is 00:44:33 And I'm like, nothing can save me except you. It's really. you could be marrying your dad and that would be the best case scenario it really is so we work from there Andrew that was one of the things asking Oger some widow plays the widow
Starting point is 00:44:52 the widow's tears the Duchess of Malfe Women Beware Women pity she's a whore Tis pity she's a whore is the full title of her It just says pity she's a whore Andrew I said I will check it on my shelf when I get home and get back to you Oh sorry I see that's fine I don't remember My memory is terrible
Starting point is 00:45:10 But I spoke to a doctor And I'm not menopausal So it's not that Oh good Yeah I was really worried about it I think it's my medicine For my crazy brain
Starting point is 00:45:19 Yeah I think it's making my brain bad This is actually We do a clarification A corrections corner actually Oh right do we Yes so last On the last episode
Starting point is 00:45:28 We did We had a trans male listener Who was worried That going on testosterone We'd make them To go through the menopause We have had somebody Comment to correct
Starting point is 00:45:35 That is actually a myth Is it? Yes, and people can go on to testosterone, transition, and then pause tea and still have children afterwards. So it's not the be all and end all. I think that's a very important thing to just clarify on pod. That's a really good clarification. You can take testosterone, but then you can pause it
Starting point is 00:45:53 if you want to use the biological female aspects. Yes. Interesting. And there's a documentary by Freddie McConnell called Seahorse, which is all about it. Seahorse. That's such a good name as well. I love, that's a great name.
Starting point is 00:46:05 That's clever because male seahorse is the ones that get pregnant. And because they can change gender. Can they? Thank you to Rosie Jones for that comment. Oh, wow. Thank you to. Rosie Jones, not the Rosie Jones. Thank you to Rosie Jones.
Starting point is 00:46:18 Yeah. Our queer Lord and Savior. Please, amazing. Thank you, Rosie. Go on, Andrews. Speaking of queer lords and saviors, hopefully you can save this queer person. Yeah. It was nice, smooth as butter.
Starting point is 00:46:35 Yeah. This is from, this is from M. Hi, Em. Hi, Em. At Arizona State University, we've made online education better, smarter, and more personalized, so you can go further in your aspiring field. I decided to pursue medicine once I realized that ASU did have the online program for biological sciences. You're still required to learn the same curriculum.
Starting point is 00:46:59 You're still being tested on the same content that anyone would be tested on in person. the comprehensiveness of the program prepared me so well for medical school. Explore over 350 plus programs at asuonline.asu.edu. M says, I'm currently living abroad in a slightly homophobic country where I have been forewarned
Starting point is 00:47:21 against public homosexuality. Oh no. I laughed off mostly and as a chronic singleton assumed it wouldn't come up. But I've started seeing a girl quite seriously and she recently expressed
Starting point is 00:47:31 in a very respectful way that she wonders why I'm sort of ignoring her advances and whether I'm okay with being touched slash kiss that's held hands with in public. I am worried about stairs from other people and feeling safe here, but it also feels mean to sort of pass off her entire country as homophobic
Starting point is 00:47:48 when I know that 100% isn't the case. Any advice I love your podcast, by the way, is getting me through living abroad. Cheers M, 20-year-old uni student. I think fuck on the street and then you're holding hands, you won't feel anything about it because you've already fucked.
Starting point is 00:48:01 You don't say that? really never been a subject of this. Probably go to the extreme and then just sort of like wind back from there. Do you not what I reckon? Like you're not going to feel awkward holding hands off you've done a rim job, you know what I mean? What country? It doesn't say. Oh no, there's no country where that's cool.
Starting point is 00:48:21 Come on. Las Vegas? The climate, climate allows you to have a rim job in the street. What climate would, oh, like a really hot one? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it'd be too wet, wouldn't it? Yeah. Have to have a towel. and then you were fucking packing a whole day out yeah, it'd be mad. Hand towel, though, that seems scary.
Starting point is 00:48:38 Well, I've got to come up with that solution. I, first of all, may I say, you, I am, just anybody describes themselves as a chronic singleton when they are 20 years old, you're just young, you're a young girl, you're a young woman. But you never know, look at me,
Starting point is 00:48:52 it can happen, be careful. No, you got to watch it, obviously. If you haven't had a public rim job by the time you're 22, then you are a fucking spinster. I've had a public win. I'm not a moron. No, of course.
Starting point is 00:49:02 And so that's why I still have hope for you. But Olga? Why me? Do you have any thoughts on this? Do I have any thoughts on this? Why me? It wasn't because you're Russian. Go.
Starting point is 00:49:12 No, that's literally what I'm imagining. As a person who grew up in Russia. Mm-hmm. Yeah. It makes sense to me that you would be hesitant. It also makes sense to me that you wouldn't want to negotiate with terrorists and sort of please people who are actively homophobic in not being outwardly gay. So my only piece of advice is to have a frank and open conversation with your partner about this.
Starting point is 00:49:36 Agreed. That's really good advice. Yeah, because right now it sounds like she's taking it personally when in fact the reason isn't personal. And also it seems like you are worried about offending her culturally more than like speaking to her, I think quite openly. And I think what you can say is what you have said in that message, which is so well articulated, which is that you were pre-warned, which has put you on like into a hypervigilant state and you can check with her A if that rings true given she's a queer person
Starting point is 00:50:07 who's lived there and presumably has more experience B, if it's safe to challenge that C, if you as a pair feel comfortable taking on that burden and then also you can reassure her of your actual sentiment and feeling towards her even if you decide to continue being
Starting point is 00:50:23 like to making a choice about safety then you can at least be like it's no reflection on it. And then if you decide to someone's ever rude you could just spray them then it's like you've got the solution if it does happen I think it's the problem is you can't pepper spray say par example the police or um like a very big aggressive man maybe who's bigger than you and no you it really blinds them no sure I'm just
Starting point is 00:50:46 it's like a case of what is what who are you subject to in this situation yes honesty is the best policy I say that too apart from when you're cheating never tell yeah don't tell don't they don't need to know it's not worth it is that true Yeah. No, because you're not telling them because you care about them. You're telling them so you don't feel guilty
Starting point is 00:51:05 so it's really selfish to tell them. Like Rihanna unfaithful. Because he knows and he knows I'm unfaithful and it kills him inside to know that I am happy with some of the guy. Exactly that.
Starting point is 00:51:19 I can see him dying. Shout out Rihanna. Shout out. Rihanna indeed. Girl, if you're listening, Hey. Hi. Could you imagine?
Starting point is 00:51:28 Thanks for listening. Could you imagine? Thanks. You did. It's so good at the Super Bowl. Pregnant, too. Yeah. Did you do it this year?
Starting point is 00:51:36 No, last... Come on, you know this last year. Last year. Was that last year she had worked? Yeah, yeah. This year was like rap royalty. I know who's doing the Super Bowl this year. What are you picking us?
Starting point is 00:51:46 While you look at me, stop it, please stop it. Full eye contact while you pick it. It's like a no-go-crum-free. Sorry, just I couldn't cope. Like, don't touch it with your fingers. Don't look at me while you do it. August's lived with me. Can you tell her that I'm not gross?
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Starting point is 00:52:33 I'm so excited. This really does feel like home. My name is Olga. You can find everything that I'm doing at rock and rollga.com, which is my website. I am on tour. I'm going all over the United Kingdom as well as Australia and New Zealand. Hello. I also just started a podcast in this very studio produced by the very lovely Andrew
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